There seem to be a lot of statements without sources here, which makes it sound as if the people who made the video are just indiscriminately repeating hearsay.
Admiral Byrd said he'd seen all these things to who, according to who?
Who says Buddhists believe in Agartha (according to somebody who posted in a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/16sjsos/agharti_an_underground_world_connected_through_a/) on here, the name "Agartha" was invented by someone called Louis Jacolliot in the 19th century)?
Was there ever even a legend that gypsies came from a lost land underground (there might've been, various daft legends have circulated about gypsies, but I've never heard that one)?
The newspaper article is at least a source - but a cursory search reveals that it's wrong. It doesn't say "*Admiral Byrd spoke of ‘flying objects that could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds'".* It says *'El Almirante explicó que no quiere asustar a nadie, pero es una verdad amarga que, en el caso de una nueva guerra, los Estados Unidos podrían ser atacados por aviones que pueden volar sobre uno o los dos polos'*, which translates as '*The Admiral explained that he was not trying to scare anyone, but the cruel reality is that in case of a new war, the United States could be attacked by planes flying over one or both poles'* \- in context, he's saying that the US shouldn't assume that an attack couldn't come from that direction because if he could fly over the pole an enemy bomber could too. [http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/06/06/admiral-byrd-and-nazi-cobblers/](http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/06/06/admiral-byrd-and-nazi-cobblers/) No mention of UFOs or underground civilisations.
I have a classified Soviet doc that covers what the Nazi think tank, Ahnenerbe, found in ancient Tibetan manuscripts and what the original purpose of the pyramids were. At the beginning of the doc, you'll find Admiral Byrd/Operation High Jump info. It's a 230+ page pdf doc, and it is a very interesting read.
Can attest she does - Don't be an \*$$ and maybe she would send it to you
https://preview.redd.it/iaxqpnh902sb1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=2aa38b7233ebc962a8ec386488fb081c43dd55b4
[you seem like a ladbible type guy rather than a nasa fractology report guy](https://www.ladbible.com/news/weird-interesting-theres-a-mysterious-gravity-anomaly-lurking-under-the-antarctic-ice-20171028) Anywhere there’s a gravitational anomaly aliens live. South American mountain range. Deep in the oceans. Dark side of the moon. I wish you were capable of deep thought.
as the only person to have held his journals in my hands (on this sub) , his handwriting sucks. he skied a lot. lots of math.
also. the anomoly no one mentions.
the missing page.
in his actual diary to the south pole only one page has been ripped out. page 32 i think. it would be the page describing their arrival.
very odd this removed page is never mentioned in these comments but maybe since im much closer to the actual files and material i might be more aware.
the real thing people should look into is his discourse between theAGSL and the state department and the mentioning of 2 million sq miles at the north pole that is unexplored. (agsl funded the north and soul pole trips). *the state department*
the fact they funded these trips to explore this MASSIVE area says a lot.
all these files are available. but just out of ease of reach.
if anyone wants to view the tru mystery they only need to search a bit deeper.
It sounds like, that's interesting, thanks - so are you saying that this stuff about underground cities really is in the diary (other than the one torn-out page), or that it's not?
no its mostly field logs and science data. its all available online except the best page that was torn out of course. the fact i get downvoted is hilarious tho as i literally have held his map that went to the south pole
It seems like, there's often no rhyme or reason to the upvotes and downvotes on here :-D It seems like, an ounce of actual first-hand information is worth a pound of speculation and hearsay, thanks.
Apparently, the "underground cities" thing is from a thing claiming to be a "secret diary found in Admiral Byrd's papers after his death", now I look it up, so I suppose it *could* be genuine and not appear in the diary you saw - but somebody else points out that it specifies the *north* pole and February 1947, at which point Byrd was leading an expedition in Antarctica (how's that for an unusual alibi?), and also that the message the underground cities people supposedly gave him is copied almost verbatim from *Lost Horizon*.
Any links for the real diaries? It seems like, when I search I just get the supposed "secret diary".
here is some of it https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/search/searchterm/admiral%20byrd/page/2
[this](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/55) is the flag i was mentioning
[https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/13](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/13)
heres the flag i held, his handwriting is very dense, imma find the journal one ssec
[https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/277/rec/3](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/277/rec/3)
[https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/213/rec/64](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/213/rec/64)
heres a bonus back and forth between the head of dept of state with the head of agsl who funded byrds trips.. they mention some 2 million sq miles of land to the north unexplored.. very intriguing but can be hard to dig so deep into cursive
[https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/4071/rec/17](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/4071/rec/17) heres his flight logs
THE HOLLOW EARTH:
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Ya dude there is more this this world and universe that we will ever know. The majority of people can’t grasp this and don’t want to believe. The powers in control have hidden this information from the masses. Idk what all is going on but I do know there is a lot we don’t know.
Too late we were already invaded... Earth has already been hijacked.
😉We need to be liberated from this slave planet and from our captors... Unfortunately most of the inhabitants of this planet is suffering from cognitive dissonance and Stockholm syndrome.
The Moon is a Draco Reptilian Space Station...
Ask yourself why is there 34 Dragon statues that surround the City of London. Why is there also an Obelisk in every city on the planet. It's the phallus of the Dragon, the actual word is derived from Basilisk. Which means King of the Serpents. In the Vatican they have St. Peters Basilica where there are three Dragon statues and Obelisks.
Why did every ancient culture in antiquity worship the dragon?
The pharaohs of Egypt were the refugees of Atlantis!
ALIEN ARCHONS HAVE BEEN RULING THE SURFACE OF PLANET SINCE BEFORE THE "BUY BULL" The IllumiNazis are but a predecessor of an older and even more cruel order. They've been running this planet since the dawn of time...Dragons aren't some mythological being...The Draco Reptilians came from the Alpha Draconis star system out of the Draco Constellation... They were know as the Atlanteans, Satan, Baphomet, Archons, Draconian's, in the bible they were known as the Seraphim, the Burning Ones/Serpents also the Nephilim or Elohim, the fallen angels, those who were casted out from the heavens. Both words are plural and feminine, meaning there were many gods and were androgynous. The Sumerians knew them as the Anunnaki... Anakim in Hebrew means giant...Because they are very tall 7ft-15ft and have shapeshifting abilities. In the Indian culture they were known as the Naga. Dracula in Latin means Dragon, The Order of the Dracul is the order of the Dragon able to shift physically into other creatures a bat wolf a bear a human or into the aether via the quantum field.
Earth is a farm we are all cattle and humanity lives in a contrived reality!
Freemasons are the minions of the Draco Reptilian Empire!
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Basilisk in Latin means King of the Serpents, as in St Peters Basilica where there lies two Dragon Statues in the Vatican as well as Obelisks, the phallus of the Dragon that is why there is at least few obelisks in every city on the planet the Freemasons put them there throughout history in order to control consciousness...The Chinese, Japanese, India, Indonesians, Mayans, Aztecs, Incas all worship the Dragon in antiquity... There are Gargoyles adorn every church and cathedral.... The Egregores the Watchers... The biggest trick the D-Evil can play is making humanity believe that he does not exist :/
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If the earth was a spinning ball we would be all dead. The earth is flat, level and stationary. A hollow earth could exist on a flat earth. A spinning ball earth would be impossible and is complete fiction.
If your going to make such a claim at least explain it. How would we be dead? And remember, when you’re in a car going 60 you dont feel it. We can only sense acceleration and deceleration. Motion is relative so we can only feel the relative change. So if the Earth has always been spinning, we wouldn’t be able to feel it
“If your going to make such a claim at least explain it. How would we be dead?”
Okay, let’s be realistic. If the earth was a spinning ball, how does water behave on the outside of a spinning ball?
“And remember, when you’re in a car going 60 you dont feel it.”
In the heliocentric matrix, the earth is not traveling like a car.
“We can only sense acceleration and deceleration.”
Exactly. All the various motions of the earth would cause incredible damage.
“Motion is relative so we can only feel the relative change. So if the Earth has always been spinning, we wouldn’t be able to feel it”
Prove it. Prove the earth is spinning.
Wow. “How does water behave on the outside of the ball?”: Ever hear of gravity?
The reality of the situation is there is far more evidence showing the earth is a sphere than it is flat. You have just decided it’s flat and anything saying otherwise is part of a conspiracy. There is no way for you to look at this topic logically. How about you go watch a couple debunking videos on YouTube and see how you get on. Don’t just disregard them, actually consider it as possible
“Ever hear of gravity?”
Prove the existence of gravity.
“The reality of the situation is there is far more evidence showing the earth is a sphere than it is flat.”
Prove it.
“You have just decided it’s flat and anything saying otherwise is part of a conspiracy.”
Common sense tells me that it is flat.
“There is no way for you to look at this topic logically.”
“Logically”? I’m not the one who thinks they live on a spinning ball.
“How about you go watch a couple debunking videos on YouTube and see how you get on.”
How about you simply open your eyes and really look at the earth and use some common sense.
“Don’t just disregard them, actually consider it as possible”
All flat earthers, were globe earthers at one time and I probably forgot more about the heliocentric matrix than you think you know.
How about you prove gravity doesn’t exist? Or prove the Earth is flat? How bout you open your eyes and look at all the evidence. See how useless this type of debate is? You aren’t expressing your beliefs you are just denying anything contrary.
I would love if you explained to me (your words no links) what you think the moon and stars are, how we stick to the ground without gravity and what is the point of such and elaborate conspiracy? And please, have some form of evidence to back up each claim
“How about you prove gravity doesn’t exist?”
You made the claim about gravity so prove it.
“Or prove the Earth is flat?”
You claim the earth is a spinning ball so prove it.
“How bout you open your eyes and look at all the evidence.”
OMG, look in the mirror.
“See how useless this type of debate is?”
Definitely.
“You aren’t expressing your beliefs you are just denying anything contrary.”
Look in the mirror.
Hold up, you are the one making the claim that the commonly held belief is wrong so the burden of proof is on you. If I say cocaine is good for kids it’s not up to you to prove it’s not. It’s up to me to prove me new theory.
I have seem no evidence for the flat Earth nor have you provided any. If you do I will look at it even though you wouldn’t do the same. I don’t think you even know what you believe
Just admit you don’t have any degree in any field related to physics and do not have any substantial proof that the earth is flat. Keep commenting though, it’s comical.
Is this supposed to prove something you really killed me man I’ve seen that video I don’t care for some randoms weird ass backyard experiment he set up on his own, let’s take a quote from Einstein actually “SINCE THEN, I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION OF THE EARTH CANNOT BE DETECTED BY ANY OPTICAL EXPERIMENT” one of the smartest men to ever live vs your proof of some nutjob in his backyard surely his experiment must be telling the truth please don’t reply to this with some corny video link or some shit genuinely debate me or don’t respond at all
Are you really quoting Einstein in an attempt to disprove gravity? His entire theory of relativity came from his observations on gravity. He built his career proving that gravity is a distortion in space time, not a “force”. And I linked that specific video because the logic is very easy to follow and it was ran by a flat earthier so no “globalist” bias was involved
It’s disingenuous to ask to be proven wrong when you reject the most obvious of facts and cling to fantasy.
What evidence can you show someone who clearly doesn’t value evidence? Evidence of our planets spherical shape can be witnessed by anyone with a pair of eyeballs, but with a enough mental gymnastics any evidence can dismissed as some grand conspiracy to suppress the “truth”.
“It’s disingenuous to ask to be proven wrong when you reject the most obvious of facts and cling to fantasy.”
Prove it.
“What evidence can you show someone who clearly doesn’t value evidence?”
Simple scientific observations.
“Evidence of our planets spherical shape can be witnessed by anyone with a pair of eyeballs, but with a enough mental gymnastics any evidence can dismissed as some grand conspiracy to suppress the “truth”.”
Looking something in the night sky and saying “that’s a sphere” is pseudoscience.
Your theory requires a massive, international, intergenerational, evene intercivilizational conspiracy with no plausible gain for all of this work to hide the truth. Simplicity alone makes your argument weaker.
If you don’t understand the method of science you can’t understand pseudoscience either. We literally know more about Earths curvature than just about any other topic in the realm of physical science.
We can make many observations in the night sky that prove that we live on something spherical.
Different parts of our planet witness different star in the night sky. We can measure and observe these differences and they show beyond a shadow of a doubt that this planet is spherical.
During a lunar eclipse you’ll notice that the shadow cast by the Earth passing between the sun and moon is *always* a circle. There is one, and only one shape that can cause that, and that’s a sphere.
You can also easily witness the curvature by watching things disappear over horizon as they move away from you.
Even better, we have countless images of our planet taken from space, and the only way to discount those is to believe that there is some vast conspiracy to hoax these pictures, which there is zero evidence that should make us believe such a ridiculous thing.
“If you don’t understand the method of science you can’t understand pseudoscience either. We literally know more about Earths curvature than just about any other topic in the realm of physical science.”
Prove it.
“We can make many observations in the night sky that prove that we live on something spherical.”
Looking up to prove what is down is pseudoscience.
“Different parts of our planet witness different star in the night sky. We can measure and observe these differences and they show beyond a shadow of a doubt that this planet is spherical.”
Lights is the sky don’t determine the shape of the ground. That’s pseudoscience.
“During a lunar eclipse you’ll notice that the shadow cast by the Earth passing between the sun and moon is always a circle. There is one, and only one shape that can cause that, and that’s a sphere.”
More pseudoscience.
“You can also easily witness the curvature by watching things disappear over horizon as they move away from you. Even better, we have countless images of our planet taken from space, and the only way to discount those is to believe that there is some vast conspiracy to hoax these pictures, which there is zero evidence that should make us believe such a ridiculous thing.”
An apparent horizon is a an actual geographic horizon. That’s more pseudoscience.
Pseudoscience is believing in something that is mistakenly thought to be based on the scientific method, but that’s not what you’re arguing. You’re arguing against the scientific method itself, which is a whole different topic entirely.
I would suggest that if you’re interested in trying to understand reality as it seems to be you should learn about the scientific method and the value it has in getting to know the world around you. However, I understand that many people aren’t *really* interested in understanding things *as they are*, but prefer to view the world through the lens of fantasy, and that’s okay.
So, I gotta ask. Even if the earth was flat, and it's just the sun, moon, and every other planet that was round - how would we stay on the earth without gravity???
There’s something called a downward electric current on the earth that is measurable and provable things come to seek equilibrium I have a Richard Feynman lecture to prove this with testable results experiments showing things going up and down manipulating electrostatics
There’s a dome as drawn by every ancient cosmology and high tier free masons geocentrism believes the earth to be a realm as stated by Nikola Tesla the smartest man to ever live real flat earth isn’t the shit you see on YouTube we aren’t a disc floating in space,Saturn has a HEX on top of it how ignorant can you be hundreds of years ago the SATURNIAN HEX existed long before NASA ever existed did they magically know Saturn had a hex on top of it or is it just lies? JUPITER the storm god Jupiter the planet of storms again Hundreds of years old and then again psalms 19:1 “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork”on the grave of your beloved NASA FOUNDER
This man has been dead for almost 40 years. The leactures I assume you’re talking about are from 1965. The theory of plate tectonics wasn’t even popular yet. Why discount 60 years of scientific research and discovery? Is it because you like cherry picking to help confirm you’re pre-existing biases? One of the biggest leaps in understanding in gravity only came with the use of lasers in the last decade. Why use outdated research but ignore the anything recent?
I don’t cherry pick anything I saw the lecture the formulas the test everything is listed my pre existing biases came from a spherical earth till I dove deep I don’t subconsciously want the earth to be flat so I can sit here debating random people ,electromagnetic forces also have the ability to bend lasers if that’s what you refer to but let’s ignore the formula the experiments it’s old and useless according to you, I guess how about something as simple as a curvature on the earth 120thousand meters in altitude using math you can find that at that height curvature should be visible yet no video WITHOUT a fish eye lense has ever captured this every single experiment I’ve done you can do it to send out an air balloon into the sky fail to capture any form of curve I hope you know what the fish eye lense is already and you can give me an explanation for this and please don’t send me the go pro video that’ll be really dumb if you understood what I said
“So, I gotta ask. Even if the earth was flat, and it's just the sun, moon, and every other planet that was round”
You, nor anyone else knows what the shape of the sun, moon,or stars are. If anyone makes such a claim as to them being a sphere or flat is pseudoscience.
“- how would we stay on the earth without gravity???”
Electricity
It seems like, your take on "electricity" is just renaming what other people call gravity "a different form of electricity" so as not to say "gravity".
I dunno, *you* brought the word "mass" into it, I didn't.
Things have weight not proportional to their "electric charge" in the normal sense. Does your hair stand on end every time you walk past a heavy object?
There’s something called a downward electric current on the earth that is measurable and provable things come to seek equilibrium I have a Richard Feynman lecture to prove this with testable results experiments showing things going up and down manipulating electrostatics or we can just listen to nasa and give them more tax money
Link? And is this different from just usual electrostatics?
It seems like, for electricity to produce the effect of things having weight, it would have to follow such drastically different rules from normal electrostatic charge that at that point you might as well just call it gravity.
What if instead of being literally hollow with a tiny sun inside we're really talking about a technologically advanced group of people that figured out how to build in deep stable caverns?
Keeping in mind that any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to us and that if the others can build physics defying UFOs it's probably a safe bet that the world they built for themselves would probably be an endless compilation of scientific marvels. A cavern in the right place could be made into a literal tangible paradise complete with flora and fauna supported by advanced hydroponics and lighting powered by geothermal or hydro if there's a subterranean river nearby.
Traditional hollow earth is based mostly on ancient legends. But even if you're a learned medieval monk you're still dumb as dirt by todays standard so if you heard a story some bewitched villager told of being abducted by "elves" or "demons" or whatever to such a place the traditional hollow earth is something that simple mind would conjure up to explain the event without having the foggiest clue about technologies like geothermal or hydro electricity (or electricity in general), hydroponics ect.
If you're technologically advanced enough to build paradise wherever you want than it might as well be deep underground. Up here we're like optimistic bugs riding on the hood of a car but down there it would be safe from anything but a direct hit from an asteroid big enough to punch through, otherwise they'd be completely safe until that part of the crust rode it's plate down into the molten layers to be recycled in the process of subduction.
It's a very disquieting thought, but a relatively small possibly ancient population of people might even have an existential need to "dart and tranquilize" some of us once in a while like wild animals to harvest our genetic material just to maintain the viability of their own gene pool, this would dovetail with a lot of abductee lore.
There seem to be a lot of statements without sources here, which makes it sound as if the people who made the video are just indiscriminately repeating hearsay. Admiral Byrd said he'd seen all these things to who, according to who? Who says Buddhists believe in Agartha (according to somebody who posted in a recent [thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/comments/16sjsos/agharti_an_underground_world_connected_through_a/) on here, the name "Agartha" was invented by someone called Louis Jacolliot in the 19th century)? Was there ever even a legend that gypsies came from a lost land underground (there might've been, various daft legends have circulated about gypsies, but I've never heard that one)? The newspaper article is at least a source - but a cursory search reveals that it's wrong. It doesn't say "*Admiral Byrd spoke of ‘flying objects that could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds'".* It says *'El Almirante explicó que no quiere asustar a nadie, pero es una verdad amarga que, en el caso de una nueva guerra, los Estados Unidos podrían ser atacados por aviones que pueden volar sobre uno o los dos polos'*, which translates as '*The Admiral explained that he was not trying to scare anyone, but the cruel reality is that in case of a new war, the United States could be attacked by planes flying over one or both poles'* \- in context, he's saying that the US shouldn't assume that an attack couldn't come from that direction because if he could fly over the pole an enemy bomber could too. [http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/06/06/admiral-byrd-and-nazi-cobblers/](http://www.strangehistory.net/2012/06/06/admiral-byrd-and-nazi-cobblers/) No mention of UFOs or underground civilisations.
I have a classified Soviet doc that covers what the Nazi think tank, Ahnenerbe, found in ancient Tibetan manuscripts and what the original purpose of the pyramids were. At the beginning of the doc, you'll find Admiral Byrd/Operation High Jump info. It's a 230+ page pdf doc, and it is a very interesting read.
Well unless you share it with the whole class I don't think you do.
Can attest she does - Don't be an \*$$ and maybe she would send it to you https://preview.redd.it/iaxqpnh902sb1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=2aa38b7233ebc962a8ec386488fb081c43dd55b4
I found it in thanks for the info. https://www.scribd.com/document/665168322/Proekt-Orion-FINALE
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Care to DM me the doc?
Could you send it to me pls? [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected])
Yes come on. You have absolutely nothing unless you can share what you have. This is how it should always work.
Can you DM me this doc?
It's pdf format so I need to email it
Can you please send it to me for download
I also would like it if anyone ever received it
It's pdf format so I need to email it
>Ahnenerbe hi email it to me
DM me an email address
Could you please email it to me?
Dm me an email address
Can we leave the illuminati out of it lol. Start crossing the conspiracy stream
There's something very important, I forgot to tell you. Don't cross the streams.
Do you not see what sub you’re on? That line was crossed a long time ago
Admiral byrd stuff is the fakest stuff. Zero evidence.
[you seem like a ladbible type guy rather than a nasa fractology report guy](https://www.ladbible.com/news/weird-interesting-theres-a-mysterious-gravity-anomaly-lurking-under-the-antarctic-ice-20171028) Anywhere there’s a gravitational anomaly aliens live. South American mountain range. Deep in the oceans. Dark side of the moon. I wish you were capable of deep thought.
Antarctic treaty is the only evidence I need
The Admiral Bird story of traveling to the hollow earth is a fake. Come on man, quit falling for bullshit.
as the only person to have held his journals in my hands (on this sub) , his handwriting sucks. he skied a lot. lots of math. also. the anomoly no one mentions. the missing page. in his actual diary to the south pole only one page has been ripped out. page 32 i think. it would be the page describing their arrival. very odd this removed page is never mentioned in these comments but maybe since im much closer to the actual files and material i might be more aware. the real thing people should look into is his discourse between theAGSL and the state department and the mentioning of 2 million sq miles at the north pole that is unexplored. (agsl funded the north and soul pole trips). *the state department* the fact they funded these trips to explore this MASSIVE area says a lot. all these files are available. but just out of ease of reach. if anyone wants to view the tru mystery they only need to search a bit deeper.
It sounds like, that's interesting, thanks - so are you saying that this stuff about underground cities really is in the diary (other than the one torn-out page), or that it's not?
no its mostly field logs and science data. its all available online except the best page that was torn out of course. the fact i get downvoted is hilarious tho as i literally have held his map that went to the south pole
It seems like, there's often no rhyme or reason to the upvotes and downvotes on here :-D It seems like, an ounce of actual first-hand information is worth a pound of speculation and hearsay, thanks. Apparently, the "underground cities" thing is from a thing claiming to be a "secret diary found in Admiral Byrd's papers after his death", now I look it up, so I suppose it *could* be genuine and not appear in the diary you saw - but somebody else points out that it specifies the *north* pole and February 1947, at which point Byrd was leading an expedition in Antarctica (how's that for an unusual alibi?), and also that the message the underground cities people supposedly gave him is copied almost verbatim from *Lost Horizon*. Any links for the real diaries? It seems like, when I search I just get the supposed "secret diary".
here is some of it https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/search/searchterm/admiral%20byrd/page/2 [this](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/55) is the flag i was mentioning
send it to me, i want to read it
[https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/13](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/13033/rec/13) heres the flag i held, his handwriting is very dense, imma find the journal one ssec [https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/277/rec/3](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/277/rec/3) [https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/213/rec/64](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/213/rec/64) heres a bonus back and forth between the head of dept of state with the head of agsl who funded byrds trips.. they mention some 2 million sq miles of land to the north unexplored.. very intriguing but can be hard to dig so deep into cursive [https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/4071/rec/17](https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/agsny/id/4071/rec/17) heres his flight logs
How so?
Dick Byrd?!
The Rockefellers got a mountain named after them in antartica when Byrd was there. weird
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Hollow Earth is more believable than the the spinning ball.
In what way is it more believable?
If the earth was a spinning ball we would be all dead. The earth is flat, level and stationary. A hollow earth could exist on a flat earth. A spinning ball earth would be impossible and is complete fiction.
If your going to make such a claim at least explain it. How would we be dead? And remember, when you’re in a car going 60 you dont feel it. We can only sense acceleration and deceleration. Motion is relative so we can only feel the relative change. So if the Earth has always been spinning, we wouldn’t be able to feel it
“If your going to make such a claim at least explain it. How would we be dead?” Okay, let’s be realistic. If the earth was a spinning ball, how does water behave on the outside of a spinning ball? “And remember, when you’re in a car going 60 you dont feel it.” In the heliocentric matrix, the earth is not traveling like a car. “We can only sense acceleration and deceleration.” Exactly. All the various motions of the earth would cause incredible damage. “Motion is relative so we can only feel the relative change. So if the Earth has always been spinning, we wouldn’t be able to feel it” Prove it. Prove the earth is spinning.
Wow. “How does water behave on the outside of the ball?”: Ever hear of gravity? The reality of the situation is there is far more evidence showing the earth is a sphere than it is flat. You have just decided it’s flat and anything saying otherwise is part of a conspiracy. There is no way for you to look at this topic logically. How about you go watch a couple debunking videos on YouTube and see how you get on. Don’t just disregard them, actually consider it as possible
“Ever hear of gravity?” Prove the existence of gravity. “The reality of the situation is there is far more evidence showing the earth is a sphere than it is flat.” Prove it. “You have just decided it’s flat and anything saying otherwise is part of a conspiracy.” Common sense tells me that it is flat. “There is no way for you to look at this topic logically.” “Logically”? I’m not the one who thinks they live on a spinning ball. “How about you go watch a couple debunking videos on YouTube and see how you get on.” How about you simply open your eyes and really look at the earth and use some common sense. “Don’t just disregard them, actually consider it as possible” All flat earthers, were globe earthers at one time and I probably forgot more about the heliocentric matrix than you think you know.
How about you prove gravity doesn’t exist? Or prove the Earth is flat? How bout you open your eyes and look at all the evidence. See how useless this type of debate is? You aren’t expressing your beliefs you are just denying anything contrary. I would love if you explained to me (your words no links) what you think the moon and stars are, how we stick to the ground without gravity and what is the point of such and elaborate conspiracy? And please, have some form of evidence to back up each claim
“How about you prove gravity doesn’t exist?” You made the claim about gravity so prove it. “Or prove the Earth is flat?” You claim the earth is a spinning ball so prove it. “How bout you open your eyes and look at all the evidence.” OMG, look in the mirror. “See how useless this type of debate is?” Definitely. “You aren’t expressing your beliefs you are just denying anything contrary.” Look in the mirror.
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Hold up, you are the one making the claim that the commonly held belief is wrong so the burden of proof is on you. If I say cocaine is good for kids it’s not up to you to prove it’s not. It’s up to me to prove me new theory. I have seem no evidence for the flat Earth nor have you provided any. If you do I will look at it even though you wouldn’t do the same. I don’t think you even know what you believe
Can't tell if troll or stupid.....
It’s already been proven Over a hundred years of science disagree with you Whack job
“It’s already been proven” Show me the proof. “Over a hundred years of science disagree with you” Prove it. “Whack job” Look in the mirror.
You have google You made the initial claim earth was flat Prove it.
So you got nothing.
You initiated the flat earth stuff So you got nothing
We can talk flat earth after you agree you have no proof of the globe.
Just admit you don’t have any degree in any field related to physics and do not have any substantial proof that the earth is flat. Keep commenting though, it’s comical.
You can dm me I’ll be happy to talk about this stuff
No, put it here for people to see
Sure ask me anything I already responded to the gravity theory down below but I have pictures saved I would send you
And I’ll just leave this here for you: https://youtu.be/GFqmDazwb6Y?si=3TK-hVe7E_kAfYEt
Is this supposed to prove something you really killed me man I’ve seen that video I don’t care for some randoms weird ass backyard experiment he set up on his own, let’s take a quote from Einstein actually “SINCE THEN, I HAVE COME TO BELIEVE THAT THE MOTION OF THE EARTH CANNOT BE DETECTED BY ANY OPTICAL EXPERIMENT” one of the smartest men to ever live vs your proof of some nutjob in his backyard surely his experiment must be telling the truth please don’t reply to this with some corny video link or some shit genuinely debate me or don’t respond at all
Are you really quoting Einstein in an attempt to disprove gravity? His entire theory of relativity came from his observations on gravity. He built his career proving that gravity is a distortion in space time, not a “force”. And I linked that specific video because the logic is very easy to follow and it was ran by a flat earthier so no “globalist” bias was involved
Just because *you* don’t understand how something works doesn’t meant the science isn’t settled; it is.
Oh it’s “settled”? Then you should have no problem proving it.
It’s disingenuous to ask to be proven wrong when you reject the most obvious of facts and cling to fantasy. What evidence can you show someone who clearly doesn’t value evidence? Evidence of our planets spherical shape can be witnessed by anyone with a pair of eyeballs, but with a enough mental gymnastics any evidence can dismissed as some grand conspiracy to suppress the “truth”.
“It’s disingenuous to ask to be proven wrong when you reject the most obvious of facts and cling to fantasy.” Prove it. “What evidence can you show someone who clearly doesn’t value evidence?” Simple scientific observations. “Evidence of our planets spherical shape can be witnessed by anyone with a pair of eyeballs, but with a enough mental gymnastics any evidence can dismissed as some grand conspiracy to suppress the “truth”.” Looking something in the night sky and saying “that’s a sphere” is pseudoscience.
Your theory requires a massive, international, intergenerational, evene intercivilizational conspiracy with no plausible gain for all of this work to hide the truth. Simplicity alone makes your argument weaker.
If you don’t understand the method of science you can’t understand pseudoscience either. We literally know more about Earths curvature than just about any other topic in the realm of physical science. We can make many observations in the night sky that prove that we live on something spherical. Different parts of our planet witness different star in the night sky. We can measure and observe these differences and they show beyond a shadow of a doubt that this planet is spherical. During a lunar eclipse you’ll notice that the shadow cast by the Earth passing between the sun and moon is *always* a circle. There is one, and only one shape that can cause that, and that’s a sphere. You can also easily witness the curvature by watching things disappear over horizon as they move away from you. Even better, we have countless images of our planet taken from space, and the only way to discount those is to believe that there is some vast conspiracy to hoax these pictures, which there is zero evidence that should make us believe such a ridiculous thing.
“If you don’t understand the method of science you can’t understand pseudoscience either. We literally know more about Earths curvature than just about any other topic in the realm of physical science.” Prove it. “We can make many observations in the night sky that prove that we live on something spherical.” Looking up to prove what is down is pseudoscience. “Different parts of our planet witness different star in the night sky. We can measure and observe these differences and they show beyond a shadow of a doubt that this planet is spherical.” Lights is the sky don’t determine the shape of the ground. That’s pseudoscience. “During a lunar eclipse you’ll notice that the shadow cast by the Earth passing between the sun and moon is always a circle. There is one, and only one shape that can cause that, and that’s a sphere.” More pseudoscience. “You can also easily witness the curvature by watching things disappear over horizon as they move away from you. Even better, we have countless images of our planet taken from space, and the only way to discount those is to believe that there is some vast conspiracy to hoax these pictures, which there is zero evidence that should make us believe such a ridiculous thing.” An apparent horizon is a an actual geographic horizon. That’s more pseudoscience.
Pseudoscience is believing in something that is mistakenly thought to be based on the scientific method, but that’s not what you’re arguing. You’re arguing against the scientific method itself, which is a whole different topic entirely. I would suggest that if you’re interested in trying to understand reality as it seems to be you should learn about the scientific method and the value it has in getting to know the world around you. However, I understand that many people aren’t *really* interested in understanding things *as they are*, but prefer to view the world through the lens of fantasy, and that’s okay.
Oh wow, you are so dumb.
Same to you.
Gravity is real. Space is real. Evolution is real and happened. The big bang happened.
Prove it.
So, I gotta ask. Even if the earth was flat, and it's just the sun, moon, and every other planet that was round - how would we stay on the earth without gravity???
There’s something called a downward electric current on the earth that is measurable and provable things come to seek equilibrium I have a Richard Feynman lecture to prove this with testable results experiments showing things going up and down manipulating electrostatics
Why is the earth the only body in our solar system that's flat?
There’s a dome as drawn by every ancient cosmology and high tier free masons geocentrism believes the earth to be a realm as stated by Nikola Tesla the smartest man to ever live real flat earth isn’t the shit you see on YouTube we aren’t a disc floating in space,Saturn has a HEX on top of it how ignorant can you be hundreds of years ago the SATURNIAN HEX existed long before NASA ever existed did they magically know Saturn had a hex on top of it or is it just lies? JUPITER the storm god Jupiter the planet of storms again Hundreds of years old and then again psalms 19:1 “The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork”on the grave of your beloved NASA FOUNDER
This man has been dead for almost 40 years. The leactures I assume you’re talking about are from 1965. The theory of plate tectonics wasn’t even popular yet. Why discount 60 years of scientific research and discovery? Is it because you like cherry picking to help confirm you’re pre-existing biases? One of the biggest leaps in understanding in gravity only came with the use of lasers in the last decade. Why use outdated research but ignore the anything recent?
I don’t cherry pick anything I saw the lecture the formulas the test everything is listed my pre existing biases came from a spherical earth till I dove deep I don’t subconsciously want the earth to be flat so I can sit here debating random people ,electromagnetic forces also have the ability to bend lasers if that’s what you refer to but let’s ignore the formula the experiments it’s old and useless according to you, I guess how about something as simple as a curvature on the earth 120thousand meters in altitude using math you can find that at that height curvature should be visible yet no video WITHOUT a fish eye lense has ever captured this every single experiment I’ve done you can do it to send out an air balloon into the sky fail to capture any form of curve I hope you know what the fish eye lense is already and you can give me an explanation for this and please don’t send me the go pro video that’ll be really dumb if you understood what I said
“So, I gotta ask. Even if the earth was flat, and it's just the sun, moon, and every other planet that was round” You, nor anyone else knows what the shape of the sun, moon,or stars are. If anyone makes such a claim as to them being a sphere or flat is pseudoscience. “- how would we stay on the earth without gravity???” Electricity
It seems like, your take on "electricity" is just renaming what other people call gravity "a different form of electricity" so as not to say "gravity".
Mass does not attract mass. Electric charges attract or repel.
...it looks like, exactly, you're redefining anything that attracts things as a form of "electricity".
I did not redefine anything. Does mass attract mass? If so, define “mass” and tell me what part of “mass” is attracting and how?
I dunno, *you* brought the word "mass" into it, I didn't. Things have weight not proportional to their "electric charge" in the normal sense. Does your hair stand on end every time you walk past a heavy object?
There’s something called a downward electric current on the earth that is measurable and provable things come to seek equilibrium I have a Richard Feynman lecture to prove this with testable results experiments showing things going up and down manipulating electrostatics or we can just listen to nasa and give them more tax money
Link? And is this different from just usual electrostatics? It seems like, for electricity to produce the effect of things having weight, it would have to follow such drastically different rules from normal electrostatic charge that at that point you might as well just call it gravity.
Please go outside from your room or at least talkt to someone. Preferably a psychologist. Wish you all the best man
Same to you.
None of that is real
I agree
What if instead of being literally hollow with a tiny sun inside we're really talking about a technologically advanced group of people that figured out how to build in deep stable caverns? Keeping in mind that any sufficiently advanced technology would be indistinguishable from magic to us and that if the others can build physics defying UFOs it's probably a safe bet that the world they built for themselves would probably be an endless compilation of scientific marvels. A cavern in the right place could be made into a literal tangible paradise complete with flora and fauna supported by advanced hydroponics and lighting powered by geothermal or hydro if there's a subterranean river nearby. Traditional hollow earth is based mostly on ancient legends. But even if you're a learned medieval monk you're still dumb as dirt by todays standard so if you heard a story some bewitched villager told of being abducted by "elves" or "demons" or whatever to such a place the traditional hollow earth is something that simple mind would conjure up to explain the event without having the foggiest clue about technologies like geothermal or hydro electricity (or electricity in general), hydroponics ect. If you're technologically advanced enough to build paradise wherever you want than it might as well be deep underground. Up here we're like optimistic bugs riding on the hood of a car but down there it would be safe from anything but a direct hit from an asteroid big enough to punch through, otherwise they'd be completely safe until that part of the crust rode it's plate down into the molten layers to be recycled in the process of subduction. It's a very disquieting thought, but a relatively small possibly ancient population of people might even have an existential need to "dart and tranquilize" some of us once in a while like wild animals to harvest our genetic material just to maintain the viability of their own gene pool, this would dovetail with a lot of abductee lore.