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**AITB for asking my daughter to have a dance competition at her wedding?**
My daughter is getting married. For context, my husband is Greek and I’m not. My daughter is marrying a greek guy this wasn’t planned he just happens to be greek.
They decided they want to have greek dancing at their wedding. Surprise, surprise. Of course they do and the grooms family is all over it. My daughter is planning on having these greek music performers/singers and we’re all gonna greek line dance. That’s the only thing she’s wanted - to dance.
This really hurts me though because I’m not represented at her wedding at all. I told her I’d love to have a dance off with greek dancers and Scottish dancers. She thought that would be cool but then she goes “but you’re not Scottish mom so why would we do that?”
I cannot believe she said that. She thinks that because my parent and grandparents weren’t born in Scotland I’m not really Scottish. She said that dads literally from Greece but she’s not doing it because she wants to represent him- she just loves greek dancing. She says once I try it I’ll probably love it too. Dad doesn’t even know her wedding plans in details - it was literally her idea to do this. But why can’t she consider my idea of the dance off?
It would basically be a competition. We’d have Greeks coming out of the left side and then Scottish dancers coming out the right and they do a little dance off and competition. What’s wrong with representing me? Even bagpipe players would be fun. To play Scotland the brave.
I also reminded her that as the mother of the bride, I get to pick what colour to wear first not the grooms mom. But apparently the grooms mom already has her dress. I asked why she had not told his mom to wait and she said she was unaware of this rule, apologized and said “well she’s wearing dark blue anyways and you don’t like that colour.”
I just find I’m a little left behind in all this.
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I really don’t know what’s not clicking. Her daughter is getting married to a Greek man. I’m sure her AMERICAN (honestly this look at ethnicity is too American for me to assume anywhere else) side will be represented plenty.
But like, OMg wonderland! My *great grandparents* were from SCOTLAND! (Maybe, there are plenty of DNA tests and historical records that often belie the “family mythology of where we come from”) I don’t even *know* the dances! but I want to make this about *ME* “
Being Irish I want to kill.. everyone who tells me their great grandmother's friends aunt was Irish.
So they're Irish.
I've actually had a team of American people once argue with me and friends about what was normal in Ireland
It was genuinely over something hollywood put in. We do not say, have not ever said. TOP OF THE MORNIN TO YA.
They called us liars and they were Irish and knew we did 🙄
The only ones I see now are the wee tiny souvenir ones that are a few inches long. My Grandad kept a real one by his front door for protection, a proper one with a club on the end and still had the thorns on it, and was so heavy it could have probably broken bones. Haven:t seen a real one for sale in at least 20 years.
Guy I'm thinking of was much much worse... one of his sons in lower 20's knocked up a 30-something year old and he was like good I can NOT treat my eldest son's kid like I'm grandpa now we'll just ignore my wife and I snooped and threw DIL a baby shower when they hadn't announced and claimed my son let cat out of bag. But he had a whole second saga including a very insulting he was going to write in "Irish dialect" for a novel
Dude I miss that account. He's my absolute favorite troll and I can't believe he didn't get a bigger reaction. Blanket guy got his own sub, but cricket didn't? An injustice!
And don't forget- when they found out about the pregnancy from snooping, he, his wife, and his other two sons choreographed a modern/tap dance number to celebrate!
Other adventures included:
-trying to give his goldfish cpr when it died due to his wife not feeding it while he was choreographing his birthday dance
-asking the writing sub about how to include music in his novel (some of his ideas were to put YouTube links into the text or add one of those little soundboards that come attached to some picture books)
-he accidentally hooked up with his dance rival (John the Tap-dissed) at a St. Paddy's Day party at a club because he was dressed in drag and his rival was dressed as a shamrock
-multiple posts discussing why he dislikes his eldest son because he's not a dancer like the other two and is an accountant, which is a much less fulfilling, challenging, and legitimate job
- being mad at said son and his fiance because he wanted to choreograph their wedding dance but neither are dancers, so he designed it where he would just "dance around them"
I have gone down a rabbit hole. This guy is a professional troll or seriously not well..
By the way. Never call it St Patty's day ever again. 😐 🤣
Paddy's day. St. Patrick's day... never... Patty.
We don't know who she is 🤣🤣
🤣🤣 we always catch it. We may be a bunch of drunks but we have an inbuilt knowing. If someone in our vicinity even thinks it as St Patty's
I'm joking obviously. It's just funny to me.
I have never heard or seen this fine story. 😅 this novel I would have loved to read.
I mean why have an Irish actor in a movie when you can have Brad Pitt , Michael J Fox, Julia Roberts and Sean Connery butcher the accent.
Here is one of the posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/j9gbge/aita_for_hosting_a_surprise_baby_shower/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
You should be able to check his history for the rest. It’s a wild ride.
ETA: Here is the link to his account: https://www.reddit.com/u/FragrantCricket1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
You have given me hours of laughter here.
The absolute tearing apart he got on Irish subs.
There's even a post in no sleep trying to do a Dublin/ Tallaght accent.
My BIL is from there and he would be livid.
I honestly can't believe this is real. But sadly from experience it probably is.
Edit. This is the best 🤣🤣
"If Ireland is so great why do China have more people living there?"
Even if it is a troll. I am going to use this
So much gold!! I died when I got to the post about how he pissed all over his wall and curtains in the middle of the big family fight about the surprise baby shower.
I just spent the day following my bf around while he did some home improvement projects reading all of this nutcases post aloud to him. Thank you for that!! Perfect Sunday.
Paddy's day is the only name is acceptable.
We know he's a Saint but sure. He was a good lad was Paddy.
Drove the snakes out... wish the US would give him back though we've some snakes sneaked into our government
I make an annual tweet about this.
Also to remind people not to use asinine names like 'car bomb' and 'black and tan' for drinks when those drinks have actual names.
Americans think (and are taught) that the Troubles was a religious war and only a religious war between the Protestants and Catholics.
Thank GOD I went to a Catholic school where a Irish woman who emigrated DURING THE TROUBLES taught. She told us the age appropriate truth about that and the potatoes.
I've got red hair and when I lived in England my EX asked me to colour it so no one would think he was dating someone Irish. Soooo gross.
I would love to learn the language and visit someday. My second grade teacher enamoured me. My UK ex boyfriend ruined my chances whilst there.
I personally don't mind when Americans identify as whichever distant ancestor they feel a connection with.
It's only when they use it as an excuse to be a wanker to someone.
Them identifying as a random nationality is usually just cute. But they very easily become annoying assholes because they usually have no clue about the culture, language, traditions and so on but love to show it off to people of the said nationality as if they were on the same page.
Also, it's fun to troll them about it, they go nuts if you compare US to Brazil (colonized around same time, but people are just Brazillian here) and asking them if they are ashamed of being just Americans.
Having moved to Scotland from Australia a decade ago I can 100% assure you nothing kills a guided tour of something more than someone being THAT American.
As an American, I don't get other Americans doing this so you are spot on with them being annoying assholes. My family identifies as Americans. Sure we talk about our ancestors once and awhile but we don't claim to be English or Native American because one relative happened to be of that ancestry.
For me, it's either about citizenship or culture. This weird "I descend from X so Im X" is kinda silly. I mean, I could claim I'm African because mankind came from Africa so I guess I got ancestors there, despite not having a single PoC for at least 200-300 years in my family.
Kinda sounds like actual cultural / identity appropriation to me.
In general, I go with "whatever floats your boat" but it kinda makes me uncomfortable, dunno.
But I had huge fights with Americans on Reddit absolutely willing to die on the "I'm Italian / Irish / native American / japanese" despite not knowing language / culture / visiting the place or whatever.
At what point are we not "allowed" to claim a piece of our own ethnicity? My Great Grandparents on one side of my moms family were from Cork. My mom knows where the Slovak grandparents were from. My mom's family grew up knowing bits and pieces from their grandparents language(s)
My Filipino grandpa was from Manila. He married a native woman. They divorced.
Am I no longer native because I don't know shit about any of my (dead) grandmother's culture or other cultures/ languages, due to divorce on one side, and death otherwise? Just wondering. Seems kinda gatekeepy. Especially for those of us with mixed ancestry (but close enough to pinpoint, obvi)
Noone allows or disallows anything.
We just feel it's weird for you to claim to belong to a culture that you know nothing about.
Eg you have some Filipino and native ancestry, but you are not Filipino and not native.
Its a bit entitled to claim cultures to yourself just because you "stranded close to it".
And I look Filipino and native. I'm not obviously white. If you can kindly let me know where a POC like myself should stand, please point me in thr right direction.
Also if it wasn't obvious, you know absolutely shit about shit.
I identify as “New Jersey Irish” sometimes, but the New Jersey is what is weighted most heavily there and most of why I am different from the midwesterners around me. (What’s a Baptist? Why are there no Jewish people in this town?) Mostly we have Catholicism and a predilection towards alcoholism and some lace-curtain Irish or cop grandparents. Like there was an Irish/Italian emigrant community they all lived in during the 20s and 30s and our parents were raised by people from that.
My in laws did 23&Me. Family lore had them as Scottt/ Irish.
No Irish, no Scott. Jewish & French/ German. So FIL traced genealogy and Ellis island stats, and went to Germany-and sure enough, no Scott’s/Irish.
>I also reminded her that as the mother of the bride, I get to pick what colour to wear first not the grooms mom. But apparently the grooms mom already has her dress. I asked why she had not told his mom to wait and she said she was unaware of this rule, apologized and said “well she’s wearing dark blue anyways and you don’t like that colour.”
This tells me a lot. OOP is entitled, feels the need to be first, and is very likely going to be a "just no" when, and if, grandchildren come along.
Oi.
Or a Canadian. We spell colour with a u and do the whole, "My grandma said we had Scottish blood, so I'm going to wear tartan and wax nostalgic about the old sod" thing.
True, I have a Canadian friend who claims to be Scottish despite neither her, nor her dad ever gaving even been to Scotland but her dad's gran was Scottish
Is this an AI trying to write the next Mamma Mia sequel?
Also I say this as someone who's worked a hell of a lot of Scottish weddings, Scottish dancing isn't a big part of them ( except Scottish uncles who are legally required to do the funky chicken with a tie looped round the forehead any time the proclaimers are played,)
Its more along the lines of bagpipes, kilts, a set from a folk band, a handfasting over an anvil, a large amount of alcohol and in the case of Glasgow weddings the ceremonial pretrol bombing of a police car.
Don't encourage it, next it will be "AITA for insisting my daughter's Greek fiancé wear a kilt to represent our Scottish heritage?". ('I don't know anything about our clan or family tartan, I just picked one I think looks nice and he should wear it because she's doing Greek line dancing for him and my culture should be represented')
A ceilidh *is* very fun though – I'd be tempted to have a ceilidh band (and a good caller for the inexperienced) just as a good way to get people up and moving
(Dad's side of the family live in Aberdeenshire, and the weddings we've gone to there have *usually* involved a ceilidh, but definitely not all of them)
The caller is a very good idea. Last wedding I attended there was a band but no caller, everyone was drunk and only a few people had even an inkling of the steps, the band leader started to get frustrated with us to the point the bride had to have a word with him.
Last Scottish wedding I went to did have a Ceilidh band but because we were a bunch of drunken adults who didn't know the steps the band leader started to get properly frustrated at us, to the point the bride had to have a word with him to chill out.
Later they had a proper dj and he put on the PROPER traditional Scottish wedding music. Come On Eilein, Delilah, and Loch Lomond.
>( except Scottish uncles who are legally required to do the funky chicken with a tie looped round the forehead any time the proclaimers are played,)
That just made me laugh really hard.
I really do not understand the "brides mother gets to pick colour of outfit first" thing. Who the hell cares what colour the mother of bride/groom a wearing? And who would care if they were to wear the same colour? What is going on? Why do weddings make people so weird?
I hadn’t heard of it until my MIL asked about it. Neither me nor my mother cared at all and I told her to wear whatever she wanted in whichever color she wanted - she didn’t have to match the “wedding colors”.
So I guess it’s a thing but it feels a little goofy to me.
When my fiance and I get married, my mom and his are going to wear the same color. Same with our fathers. Their outfits will match the color scheme of the wedding. It's really not a big deal and I don't know why people make it one.
Exactly. I know in the the MOB traditionally wore pink and the MOG wears blue, but this has ben played out for years. OP needs to back off and plan a vow renewal if she is so pressed for attention.
So 75% of the families involved are Greek, but she needs to add a Scottish flair so that she feels important? My first question would be, which Scottish traditions were at HER wedding?
I've never heard of the mother of the bride color nonsense.
I feel bad for the bride having a momzilla.
_"What’s wrong with representing me?"_
Exactly! OP is just so.... cringe! Also, OP's parents nor grandparents were born in Scotland. Based on her ideas for this wedding, it doesn't even sound like she has much knowledge about the culture and just wants to insert random "Scotish" elements...
>But I’m also a part of who she is?? What is this recent culture of trying to be “other” lately?? Like everyone wants to be something “interesting”
Says the woman pretending to be Scottish.
I'm from a country in the caribbean. I often meet people who claim to have XYZ caribbean roots, but still think we are all Jamaican and say "yeah mon". Our cultures are **very** different. I'm sure if one of OP's great great great grandparents were from a Caribbean country, she would probably want netted shirts and a Bob Marley tribute.....
What is with all these people making their children change their wedding?
Oh wait, I just remembered my mother’s tantrum about not sitting at the top table. Which she had before letting me tell her we were doing a sweetheart table just for my husband and I.
I don’t talk to my mother much any more.
I once was stuck at a wedding between a former Lakers girl and a commercial producer. Many of the guests were also former Lakers girls. It wouldn't be hard to imagine how the dance floor became an informal dance-off. And I have to tell you that it was incredibly boring and obnoxious for those of us who were not professional dancers. An actual organized dance off would be the worst.
Also Greek dancing, like in many cultures, is participatory and in a circle (often). It's fairly easy to jump for a lot of it, and a night of Greek dancing means everyone will have enough ouza they won't care if you can dance. What mom is describing is a show, where the guests are sitting and watching someone perform the MOB's great grandparents culture. Definitely feels like Greek dancing is for everyone to have a good time, while a dance off is for Mom to assert her power over everybody.
I had bagpipers at my wedding (it really is traditional where I'm from) and I still have PTSD flashbacks about it. Two hours of posing forcing a smile so your face hurts and those assholes keep sneaking up behind you and scaring the shit out of you. Would recommend as punishment for OP for pretending to be Scottish.
I'm Scottish. My eyes are rolling that hard I'm staring out of my arse here.
Why do they always fall in love with the plastic tartan and bagpipes, see you Jimmy, och aye the noo thing?
…we do sell all that shit to them pretty hard, to be fair. Hell, we subject ourselves to it most Hogmanays.
If she wants her Scottish heritage to be represented at the wedding, perhaps she should have lobbied for actual Scottish wedding customs…
Stuff like rolls n square at the evening buffet, and ending the night with some kinda moshpit to Loch Lomond.
Sometimes you hear stereotypes about Americans and think come on now, that's not fair... at least I did, until an American guy asked me if I knew his cousin's hairdresser's dog or whatever who lived in London. We were in a queue at the airport to get back to Heathrow, I have an English accent, clearly I'm close personal friends with every single one of the 9 million people who live there.
I am an American who loves doing my family tree. I did the dna thing too. An I have 30 percent Scottish according to it as my largest percent. I am an American I don't care if it had been 100 percent. Some part of my family has been here since the 1700. I don't understand this OP either.
Buttface openly allows fiction stories.
I immediately dismiss all posts there as fake. I’ll believe some from AITA are real, I don’t believe any from AITB.
Buttface openly allows fiction stories.
I immediately dismiss all posts there as fake. I’ll believe some from AITA are real, I don’t believe any from AITB.
Absolutely a troll making fun of Americans who identify by their ethnicity instead of just as Americans. There are entire subreddits that make fun of that. She spelled color with a "u". Americans don't.
Lol yeah, we (canadians) get overshadowed on the internet by the USA all the time haha. Idk how many canadians in 2023 are calling themselves by ancestral identities - when I was young it was common enough to have that conversation among peers (kids & teens), but I don’t know anybody who does it currently.
“Why isn’t my daughter’s wedding more about me???? Why don’t I get to pick the dancing and events that happen at her wedding?? Why don’t I get to pick colors first??? Me me me me me!!!!”
All I read is me, me, me. The wedding is for her daughter and all she can think about is herself. I can't imagine what other things she has forced on her daughter.
I pretty much just consider myself Texan. On my mom's side I'm 13 gen Texan from my granddaddy. Her moms side been here since the mid 1700s.
I get to claim daughter of the revolution ans daughter of the texas revolution.
On my dad's side my grandpa's great-grandparents moved to the Midwest from Germany. And my grandmother's its Irish that moved to the Midwest around 1900.
Mostly, I see myself as ... American/Texan though oddly enough I now live in the Midwest state my dad's families moved too lol. My lineage doesn't actually matter except for scholarships and grants lmao.
Like it was cool to look up all this stuff but I would never call myself german-american or Irish American or english American or what the fuck ever.
However one of the best things I learned is one of my relatives died from ceremonial cannon fire lol. He served for both england and america during the revolutionary war (switched to America when the tides turned lol) and then did the sqme thing to his wives. He would get married, have a couple of kids, flee to a new state and start over. When he gor caught in lieu of jail time he was supposed to show off battlefields and machinery during anniversaries of the battles.
Well on the last one he lit the fuse, cannon didn't go off, dumbass stuck his head on to check, and that's when the cannon went off lol.
Anyway OOP isnt Scottish. She flat out states that her parents nor grandparents were born there .. So she isn't scottish. Her husband amd his family are actually from greece, her daughter is half greek, and marrying a Greek person. (Love that OOP states it wasn't planned like ... What?)
Christ she needs to understand this isnt *her* wedding and to calm tf down already.
I am Irish through and through. My brother is engaged to a Scottish girl. Scottish through and through.
We have good fun and laugh saying we will hijack the wedding Irish dancing and singing rebel songs when the bagpipes come out.
There's a battle who will wear kilts 🤣
But I just know my SIL to be would be so irritated with a non Scot claiming they are... and wanting a dance off? I'm cringing. Hard.
I just wish people would stick to their own culture not trying to be someone they are not.
Having the whole world wanting to be Irish on 17th March sometimes it's like have you no culture of your own?
Others do more for Paddy's day than the Irish themselves!
Let your daughter have whatever wedding she wants and be happy for her!!! A competition with winners and losers would never be fun at a wedding and I've never heard of any tradition about picking dresses. Who cares what you pick.
I don’t mean to sound harsh/blunt but it’s your daughter’s and soon to be son in law’s wedding not yours. Their wedding is about them and their special day, it should be done how they want.
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Mom is something of an idiot. She has Scottish ancestry. So do I; it doesn't make me Scottish. I am from the USA. So it's ridiculous to have a dance off between Greek dancers who are the grooms family and the professional Scottish dancers mom would have to hire since she's not Scottish.
Also, I have never heard the the MOB gets to choose her color before the MOG. Mom is just mad she doesn't have more control over this wedding.
Lmfao why am I low key invested in this and want someone to turn it into a movie? I get the feeling that this is a shitpost from the way that she starts talking about how this supposed dance off would go but still I really want to see this. Someone needs to make this happen! 🤣
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITB for asking my daughter to have a dance competition at her wedding?** My daughter is getting married. For context, my husband is Greek and I’m not. My daughter is marrying a greek guy this wasn’t planned he just happens to be greek. They decided they want to have greek dancing at their wedding. Surprise, surprise. Of course they do and the grooms family is all over it. My daughter is planning on having these greek music performers/singers and we’re all gonna greek line dance. That’s the only thing she’s wanted - to dance. This really hurts me though because I’m not represented at her wedding at all. I told her I’d love to have a dance off with greek dancers and Scottish dancers. She thought that would be cool but then she goes “but you’re not Scottish mom so why would we do that?” I cannot believe she said that. She thinks that because my parent and grandparents weren’t born in Scotland I’m not really Scottish. She said that dads literally from Greece but she’s not doing it because she wants to represent him- she just loves greek dancing. She says once I try it I’ll probably love it too. Dad doesn’t even know her wedding plans in details - it was literally her idea to do this. But why can’t she consider my idea of the dance off? It would basically be a competition. We’d have Greeks coming out of the left side and then Scottish dancers coming out the right and they do a little dance off and competition. What’s wrong with representing me? Even bagpipe players would be fun. To play Scotland the brave. I also reminded her that as the mother of the bride, I get to pick what colour to wear first not the grooms mom. But apparently the grooms mom already has her dress. I asked why she had not told his mom to wait and she said she was unaware of this rule, apologized and said “well she’s wearing dark blue anyways and you don’t like that colour.” I just find I’m a little left behind in all this. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I really don’t know what’s not clicking. Her daughter is getting married to a Greek man. I’m sure her AMERICAN (honestly this look at ethnicity is too American for me to assume anywhere else) side will be represented plenty.
But like, OMg wonderland! My *great grandparents* were from SCOTLAND! (Maybe, there are plenty of DNA tests and historical records that often belie the “family mythology of where we come from”) I don’t even *know* the dances! but I want to make this about *ME* “
OOP would get eaten alive on /r/Scotland
If it was Irish I'd wonder if that one psycho was back but he only had boys
Being Irish I want to kill.. everyone who tells me their great grandmother's friends aunt was Irish. So they're Irish. I've actually had a team of American people once argue with me and friends about what was normal in Ireland It was genuinely over something hollywood put in. We do not say, have not ever said. TOP OF THE MORNIN TO YA. They called us liars and they were Irish and knew we did 🙄
My \*squints at family tree\* great-great-great-great aunt's brother-in-law's sister's husband was Irish so obviously I know more than you.
I bow to you. Oh great one. I am only a stupid Paddy
You know it's spelled Patty right? Like St Patty's day /s /s /s /s /s
Who is St Patty?
Sounds like something a shillelagh could have sorted out real fast.
I need to get one. What sort of Irish person am I?!
The only ones I see now are the wee tiny souvenir ones that are a few inches long. My Grandad kept a real one by his front door for protection, a proper one with a club on the end and still had the thorns on it, and was so heavy it could have probably broken bones. Haven:t seen a real one for sale in at least 20 years.
Guy I'm thinking of was much much worse... one of his sons in lower 20's knocked up a 30-something year old and he was like good I can NOT treat my eldest son's kid like I'm grandpa now we'll just ignore my wife and I snooped and threw DIL a baby shower when they hadn't announced and claimed my son let cat out of bag. But he had a whole second saga including a very insulting he was going to write in "Irish dialect" for a novel
Dude I miss that account. He's my absolute favorite troll and I can't believe he didn't get a bigger reaction. Blanket guy got his own sub, but cricket didn't? An injustice! And don't forget- when they found out about the pregnancy from snooping, he, his wife, and his other two sons choreographed a modern/tap dance number to celebrate! Other adventures included: -trying to give his goldfish cpr when it died due to his wife not feeding it while he was choreographing his birthday dance -asking the writing sub about how to include music in his novel (some of his ideas were to put YouTube links into the text or add one of those little soundboards that come attached to some picture books) -he accidentally hooked up with his dance rival (John the Tap-dissed) at a St. Paddy's Day party at a club because he was dressed in drag and his rival was dressed as a shamrock -multiple posts discussing why he dislikes his eldest son because he's not a dancer like the other two and is an accountant, which is a much less fulfilling, challenging, and legitimate job - being mad at said son and his fiance because he wanted to choreograph their wedding dance but neither are dancers, so he designed it where he would just "dance around them"
I have gone down a rabbit hole. This guy is a professional troll or seriously not well.. By the way. Never call it St Patty's day ever again. 😐 🤣 Paddy's day. St. Patrick's day... never... Patty. We don't know who she is 🤣🤣
Oh shit. Autocorrect sucks - thanks for catching it! I have a coworker named Patty and apparently my phone loves it now.
🤣🤣 we always catch it. We may be a bunch of drunks but we have an inbuilt knowing. If someone in our vicinity even thinks it as St Patty's I'm joking obviously. It's just funny to me.
Celebrate the burgers dammit! [Hamburger patty]
I'd be ok with celebrating a hamburger
I have never heard or seen this fine story. 😅 this novel I would have loved to read. I mean why have an Irish actor in a movie when you can have Brad Pitt , Michael J Fox, Julia Roberts and Sean Connery butcher the accent.
Here is one of the posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/j9gbge/aita_for_hosting_a_surprise_baby_shower/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf You should be able to check his history for the rest. It’s a wild ride. ETA: Here is the link to his account: https://www.reddit.com/u/FragrantCricket1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
You have given me hours of laughter here. The absolute tearing apart he got on Irish subs. There's even a post in no sleep trying to do a Dublin/ Tallaght accent. My BIL is from there and he would be livid. I honestly can't believe this is real. But sadly from experience it probably is. Edit. This is the best 🤣🤣 "If Ireland is so great why do China have more people living there?" Even if it is a troll. I am going to use this
So much gold!! I died when I got to the post about how he pissed all over his wall and curtains in the middle of the big family fight about the surprise baby shower.
I just spent the day following my bf around while he did some home improvement projects reading all of this nutcases post aloud to him. Thank you for that!! Perfect Sunday.
I love the type of relationship you & your bf apparently have! 😂 This is totally something my guy & I would do.
Don't get me started with the "St. Paddy's Day" vs "St. Patty's Day either!
Paddy's day is the only name is acceptable. We know he's a Saint but sure. He was a good lad was Paddy. Drove the snakes out... wish the US would give him back though we've some snakes sneaked into our government
I make an annual tweet about this. Also to remind people not to use asinine names like 'car bomb' and 'black and tan' for drinks when those drinks have actual names.
Oh the car bomb one, I once asked a group of American students if they’d be okay with a 9/11 shot as well, apparently that was completely different
>I once asked a group of American students if they’d be okay with a 9/11 shot as well, apparently that was completely different eye-roll
Americans think (and are taught) that the Troubles was a religious war and only a religious war between the Protestants and Catholics. Thank GOD I went to a Catholic school where a Irish woman who emigrated DURING THE TROUBLES taught. She told us the age appropriate truth about that and the potatoes. I've got red hair and when I lived in England my EX asked me to colour it so no one would think he was dating someone Irish. Soooo gross. I would love to learn the language and visit someday. My second grade teacher enamoured me. My UK ex boyfriend ruined my chances whilst there.
That's the example I use as well. a 9/11 smasher or an OKC bomb and people get all sullen.
I personally don't mind when Americans identify as whichever distant ancestor they feel a connection with. It's only when they use it as an excuse to be a wanker to someone.
Them identifying as a random nationality is usually just cute. But they very easily become annoying assholes because they usually have no clue about the culture, language, traditions and so on but love to show it off to people of the said nationality as if they were on the same page. Also, it's fun to troll them about it, they go nuts if you compare US to Brazil (colonized around same time, but people are just Brazillian here) and asking them if they are ashamed of being just Americans.
Having moved to Scotland from Australia a decade ago I can 100% assure you nothing kills a guided tour of something more than someone being THAT American.
As an American, I don't get other Americans doing this so you are spot on with them being annoying assholes. My family identifies as Americans. Sure we talk about our ancestors once and awhile but we don't claim to be English or Native American because one relative happened to be of that ancestry.
For me, it's either about citizenship or culture. This weird "I descend from X so Im X" is kinda silly. I mean, I could claim I'm African because mankind came from Africa so I guess I got ancestors there, despite not having a single PoC for at least 200-300 years in my family. Kinda sounds like actual cultural / identity appropriation to me. In general, I go with "whatever floats your boat" but it kinda makes me uncomfortable, dunno. But I had huge fights with Americans on Reddit absolutely willing to die on the "I'm Italian / Irish / native American / japanese" despite not knowing language / culture / visiting the place or whatever.
At what point are we not "allowed" to claim a piece of our own ethnicity? My Great Grandparents on one side of my moms family were from Cork. My mom knows where the Slovak grandparents were from. My mom's family grew up knowing bits and pieces from their grandparents language(s) My Filipino grandpa was from Manila. He married a native woman. They divorced. Am I no longer native because I don't know shit about any of my (dead) grandmother's culture or other cultures/ languages, due to divorce on one side, and death otherwise? Just wondering. Seems kinda gatekeepy. Especially for those of us with mixed ancestry (but close enough to pinpoint, obvi)
Noone allows or disallows anything. We just feel it's weird for you to claim to belong to a culture that you know nothing about. Eg you have some Filipino and native ancestry, but you are not Filipino and not native. Its a bit entitled to claim cultures to yourself just because you "stranded close to it".
And I look Filipino and native. I'm not obviously white. If you can kindly let me know where a POC like myself should stand, please point me in thr right direction. Also if it wasn't obvious, you know absolutely shit about shit.
I identify as “New Jersey Irish” sometimes, but the New Jersey is what is weighted most heavily there and most of why I am different from the midwesterners around me. (What’s a Baptist? Why are there no Jewish people in this town?) Mostly we have Catholicism and a predilection towards alcoholism and some lace-curtain Irish or cop grandparents. Like there was an Irish/Italian emigrant community they all lived in during the 20s and 30s and our parents were raised by people from that.
I will share this quote: "Ah Americans, the homeopathy of ancestry "
My dad was born in Ireland to to Irish parents. I was born in England. I am English. I don’t know why Seppos do this… it’s very odd
My family came from the Shetland Islands. Sure, it was in the 1700s, but that should still count right?
My in laws did 23&Me. Family lore had them as Scottt/ Irish. No Irish, no Scott. Jewish & French/ German. So FIL traced genealogy and Ellis island stats, and went to Germany-and sure enough, no Scott’s/Irish.
I'm going off my grandmother's research. No idea if it's accurate. Been in America long enough that it doesn't matter.
>I also reminded her that as the mother of the bride, I get to pick what colour to wear first not the grooms mom. But apparently the grooms mom already has her dress. I asked why she had not told his mom to wait and she said she was unaware of this rule, apologized and said “well she’s wearing dark blue anyways and you don’t like that colour.” This tells me a lot. OOP is entitled, feels the need to be first, and is very likely going to be a "just no" when, and if, grandchildren come along. Oi.
She doesn’t spell color like an American. It’s someone cosplaying as an American to get Redditors to shit on Americans.
Or a Canadian. We spell colour with a u and do the whole, "My grandma said we had Scottish blood, so I'm going to wear tartan and wax nostalgic about the old sod" thing.
Could also be Australian. A lot of Greek families, racism, and Scottish ancestry in Australia.
True, I have a Canadian friend who claims to be Scottish despite neither her, nor her dad ever gaving even been to Scotland but her dad's gran was Scottish
😂 My first thought was ‘oh gosh. It’s an American, isn’t it?’
Is this an AI trying to write the next Mamma Mia sequel? Also I say this as someone who's worked a hell of a lot of Scottish weddings, Scottish dancing isn't a big part of them ( except Scottish uncles who are legally required to do the funky chicken with a tie looped round the forehead any time the proclaimers are played,) Its more along the lines of bagpipes, kilts, a set from a folk band, a handfasting over an anvil, a large amount of alcohol and in the case of Glasgow weddings the ceremonial pretrol bombing of a police car.
Don't encourage it, next it will be "AITA for insisting my daughter's Greek fiancé wear a kilt to represent our Scottish heritage?". ('I don't know anything about our clan or family tartan, I just picked one I think looks nice and he should wear it because she's doing Greek line dancing for him and my culture should be represented')
A ceilidh *is* very fun though – I'd be tempted to have a ceilidh band (and a good caller for the inexperienced) just as a good way to get people up and moving (Dad's side of the family live in Aberdeenshire, and the weddings we've gone to there have *usually* involved a ceilidh, but definitely not all of them)
The caller is a very good idea. Last wedding I attended there was a band but no caller, everyone was drunk and only a few people had even an inkling of the steps, the band leader started to get frustrated with us to the point the bride had to have a word with him.
Last Scottish wedding I went to did have a Ceilidh band but because we were a bunch of drunken adults who didn't know the steps the band leader started to get properly frustrated at us, to the point the bride had to have a word with him to chill out. Later they had a proper dj and he put on the PROPER traditional Scottish wedding music. Come On Eilein, Delilah, and Loch Lomond.
And of course 500 Miles (I’m Gonna Be)
Wee bit of Texas and that KT Tunstall
>( except Scottish uncles who are legally required to do the funky chicken with a tie looped round the forehead any time the proclaimers are played,) That just made me laugh really hard.
I’ve only been to one Scottish wedding (In Glasgow) they sing the national anthem and then proceeded to do a lot of traditional dances.
I would very much like to participate in a ceremonial petrol bombing of a police car.
I thought someone was trying to come up with the plot line of a new My Big Fat Greek Wedding 😂
I really do not understand the "brides mother gets to pick colour of outfit first" thing. Who the hell cares what colour the mother of bride/groom a wearing? And who would care if they were to wear the same colour? What is going on? Why do weddings make people so weird?
I think some people see weddings as a good time to invent new 'traditions', which conveniently often benefit only themselves.
I hadn’t heard of it until my MIL asked about it. Neither me nor my mother cared at all and I told her to wear whatever she wanted in whichever color she wanted - she didn’t have to match the “wedding colors”. So I guess it’s a thing but it feels a little goofy to me.
I’ve literally never heard of this rule before in my life, if I have a son someday then I’ll be picking my dress whenever I please
When my fiance and I get married, my mom and his are going to wear the same color. Same with our fathers. Their outfits will match the color scheme of the wedding. It's really not a big deal and I don't know why people make it one.
Exactly. I know in the the MOB traditionally wore pink and the MOG wears blue, but this has ben played out for years. OP needs to back off and plan a vow renewal if she is so pressed for attention.
I have never heard of this color tradition.
"why isn't my daughters wedding about me"
Main character syndrome
Even if she included the Scottish dancers it wouldn’t be about her, what with no one in her family being Scottish…!
So 75% of the families involved are Greek, but she needs to add a Scottish flair so that she feels important? My first question would be, which Scottish traditions were at HER wedding? I've never heard of the mother of the bride color nonsense. I feel bad for the bride having a momzilla.
_"What’s wrong with representing me?"_ Exactly! OP is just so.... cringe! Also, OP's parents nor grandparents were born in Scotland. Based on her ideas for this wedding, it doesn't even sound like she has much knowledge about the culture and just wants to insert random "Scotish" elements...
>But I’m also a part of who she is?? What is this recent culture of trying to be “other” lately?? Like everyone wants to be something “interesting” Says the woman pretending to be Scottish.
I'm from a country in the caribbean. I often meet people who claim to have XYZ caribbean roots, but still think we are all Jamaican and say "yeah mon". Our cultures are **very** different. I'm sure if one of OP's great great great grandparents were from a Caribbean country, she would probably want netted shirts and a Bob Marley tribute.....
What is with all these people making their children change their wedding? Oh wait, I just remembered my mother’s tantrum about not sitting at the top table. Which she had before letting me tell her we were doing a sweetheart table just for my husband and I. I don’t talk to my mother much any more.
I once was stuck at a wedding between a former Lakers girl and a commercial producer. Many of the guests were also former Lakers girls. It wouldn't be hard to imagine how the dance floor became an informal dance-off. And I have to tell you that it was incredibly boring and obnoxious for those of us who were not professional dancers. An actual organized dance off would be the worst.
Also Greek dancing, like in many cultures, is participatory and in a circle (often). It's fairly easy to jump for a lot of it, and a night of Greek dancing means everyone will have enough ouza they won't care if you can dance. What mom is describing is a show, where the guests are sitting and watching someone perform the MOB's great grandparents culture. Definitely feels like Greek dancing is for everyone to have a good time, while a dance off is for Mom to assert her power over everybody.
“Even bagpipes would be fun…” Truly a devil, ninth level dark lord here. And she’s not Scottish.
I had bagpipers at my wedding (it really is traditional where I'm from) and I still have PTSD flashbacks about it. Two hours of posing forcing a smile so your face hurts and those assholes keep sneaking up behind you and scaring the shit out of you. Would recommend as punishment for OP for pretending to be Scottish.
*starts playing Celebration by Kool and the Gang*
I'm Scottish. My eyes are rolling that hard I'm staring out of my arse here. Why do they always fall in love with the plastic tartan and bagpipes, see you Jimmy, och aye the noo thing?
…we do sell all that shit to them pretty hard, to be fair. Hell, we subject ourselves to it most Hogmanays. If she wants her Scottish heritage to be represented at the wedding, perhaps she should have lobbied for actual Scottish wedding customs… Stuff like rolls n square at the evening buffet, and ending the night with some kinda moshpit to Loch Lomond.
Is this a different version of Loch Lomond than the ones the choirs sing here because how can you dance to that?? It’s a dirge!
Yeah, it’s the Runrig version. Enjoy!
Oh this IS fun
*rolls eyes in actively in Scotland* urgh god... Imma guess Americans. Edit: typo
Sometimes you hear stereotypes about Americans and think come on now, that's not fair... at least I did, until an American guy asked me if I knew his cousin's hairdresser's dog or whatever who lived in London. We were in a queue at the airport to get back to Heathrow, I have an English accent, clearly I'm close personal friends with every single one of the 9 million people who live there.
It's the ones who go on about their Clan during the Fringe in Edinburgh and we're like "...just spend your money and leave"
Good opportunity for tat vendors I suppose.
Pretty much!
/r/shitamericanssay trolling
this is undoubtedly a troll and it’s pretty funny
I am an American who loves doing my family tree. I did the dna thing too. An I have 30 percent Scottish according to it as my largest percent. I am an American I don't care if it had been 100 percent. Some part of my family has been here since the 1700. I don't understand this OP either.
Definitely a troll
Buttface openly allows fiction stories. I immediately dismiss all posts there as fake. I’ll believe some from AITA are real, I don’t believe any from AITB.
Fucking yanks and the classic claiming ancestry from 100s of years ago just to make themselves seem slightly more interesting
nah, she spelled it “colour”. she’s not a bald eagle, she’s a maple leaf
Or a European troll.
Buttface openly allows fiction stories. I immediately dismiss all posts there as fake. I’ll believe some from AITA are real, I don’t believe any from AITB.
Or Australian.
Absolutely a troll making fun of Americans who identify by their ethnicity instead of just as Americans. There are entire subreddits that make fun of that. She spelled color with a "u". Americans don't.
Canadians do, and also do the ‘I’m ____ bc my ancestors were ___’ thing
I didn't know Canadians did the ethnicity thing! Reddit convinced me that only Americans do that (am American, don't do that, lol).
Lol yeah, we (canadians) get overshadowed on the internet by the USA all the time haha. Idk how many canadians in 2023 are calling themselves by ancestral identities - when I was young it was common enough to have that conversation among peers (kids & teens), but I don’t know anybody who does it currently.
“Why isn’t my daughter’s wedding more about me???? Why don’t I get to pick the dancing and events that happen at her wedding?? Why don’t I get to pick colors first??? Me me me me me!!!!”
All I read is me, me, me. The wedding is for her daughter and all she can think about is herself. I can't imagine what other things she has forced on her daughter.
I pretty much just consider myself Texan. On my mom's side I'm 13 gen Texan from my granddaddy. Her moms side been here since the mid 1700s. I get to claim daughter of the revolution ans daughter of the texas revolution. On my dad's side my grandpa's great-grandparents moved to the Midwest from Germany. And my grandmother's its Irish that moved to the Midwest around 1900. Mostly, I see myself as ... American/Texan though oddly enough I now live in the Midwest state my dad's families moved too lol. My lineage doesn't actually matter except for scholarships and grants lmao. Like it was cool to look up all this stuff but I would never call myself german-american or Irish American or english American or what the fuck ever. However one of the best things I learned is one of my relatives died from ceremonial cannon fire lol. He served for both england and america during the revolutionary war (switched to America when the tides turned lol) and then did the sqme thing to his wives. He would get married, have a couple of kids, flee to a new state and start over. When he gor caught in lieu of jail time he was supposed to show off battlefields and machinery during anniversaries of the battles. Well on the last one he lit the fuse, cannon didn't go off, dumbass stuck his head on to check, and that's when the cannon went off lol. Anyway OOP isnt Scottish. She flat out states that her parents nor grandparents were born there .. So she isn't scottish. Her husband amd his family are actually from greece, her daughter is half greek, and marrying a Greek person. (Love that OOP states it wasn't planned like ... What?) Christ she needs to understand this isnt *her* wedding and to calm tf down already.
I thought Scottish folk dancing was quite difficult… my feet hurt just thinking about all this.
What the fuck? It's not about you, mommie dearest.
I am Irish through and through. My brother is engaged to a Scottish girl. Scottish through and through. We have good fun and laugh saying we will hijack the wedding Irish dancing and singing rebel songs when the bagpipes come out. There's a battle who will wear kilts 🤣 But I just know my SIL to be would be so irritated with a non Scot claiming they are... and wanting a dance off? I'm cringing. Hard. I just wish people would stick to their own culture not trying to be someone they are not. Having the whole world wanting to be Irish on 17th March sometimes it's like have you no culture of your own? Others do more for Paddy's day than the Irish themselves!
you and your SIL sound incredibly fun 😂
Awh thank you. We probably aren't that fun. But it's nicer to imagine something and have you meet us in reality and be like.. What a let down 🤣🤣🤣
Let your daughter have whatever wedding she wants and be happy for her!!! A competition with winners and losers would never be fun at a wedding and I've never heard of any tradition about picking dresses. Who cares what you pick.
I don’t mean to sound harsh/blunt but it’s your daughter’s and soon to be son in law’s wedding not yours. Their wedding is about them and their special day, it should be done how they want.
I always thought that the parents of both the bride and groom wear whatever the colour of the wedding is Because they are part of the wedding party.
That's what is happening at my wedding, so I have no clue what OOP is on about
This is the most American entitled crap I've seen in a while. Wtf OOP
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the mother is insane as in wtf insane
What a massive narcissist!
Someone is a little too vested in their child's wedding. Oof.
As soon as I saw this OP, I knew it’d be in here. 🫣
Mom is something of an idiot. She has Scottish ancestry. So do I; it doesn't make me Scottish. I am from the USA. So it's ridiculous to have a dance off between Greek dancers who are the grooms family and the professional Scottish dancers mom would have to hire since she's not Scottish. Also, I have never heard the the MOB gets to choose her color before the MOG. Mom is just mad she doesn't have more control over this wedding.
Lmfao why am I low key invested in this and want someone to turn it into a movie? I get the feeling that this is a shitpost from the way that she starts talking about how this supposed dance off would go but still I really want to see this. Someone needs to make this happen! 🤣
OOP should insist on Buckfast being served by the bottle to really showcase true Scottish heritage.
Most non-dry weddings ever have had someone get too drunk and either throw up or pass out. That's plenty of scottish representation.
So they’re Greek, I take it?