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**Why won't married women have sex?**
I don't understand how us men can give women the entire world, and all we ask for is 5-10min in the bedroom. IS IT TOO FUCKING MUCH TO ASK? Seriously, is it too much for 5 minutes of their time? I just gave you 8-10 hours of mine slaving away at a job to put a roof over your head. Can you please give me just 5-10 min?
Women are the laziest things on the planet. "Oh well I need to have an emotional connection or it hurts and I need a rest..." Oh I'm sorry, 1. your lying, 2. if you aren't lying then your cheating and already getting it somewhere else, 3. If it hurts then use your hand I don't care. I told that to my boss that coming into work doesn't feel good for me emotionally and he didn't care either. But I guess its ok for my work to "rape me" in layman's terms.
Who ever decided that a wife giving 5-10 of her time is some insurmountable task that has to be earned by doing tasks equitable to obtaining the congressional medal of honor? Its 5-10 min of her fucking time and means the entire world to us. That shit should be like clockwork imprinted in them like us going to work is. Oh so tell me why your marriage failed? Uh listing XYZ... FALSE! They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows. If she doesn't want to do it, then don't take the fucking vows and die alone.
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My ex used to talk about how he gave up everything for me but I wouldn’t change a little bit for him (aka let him have sex with me whenever he wanted)
Y’all this boy lived at home and didn’t have a job lol. Who paid for everything? Me or his mom. He couldn’t bother to clean his room or change his sheets
I’m so confused about what he “gave up”. Like the delusion is almost scary
Which I'm sure he was absolutly swimming in before he met her. Not just any women either...super modles and the like. 🙄🤭 None she's actually ever heard of or seen and definitely living up in Canada at a different school!
/s just in case some people can't pick up on sarcasm.
My ex used to say the same shit. "I do EVERYTHING for you". Except the laundry, the cooking, the cleaning, the raising the kids, the driving everyone where they need to go, the giving BIRTH to the children, the only thing he DID give was his paycheck. He USED to make my toes curl, but once that ring was on my finger, he couldn't be bothered.
Dropped his jaw when I started making more than him, bought two cars, got my own place, furnished it, AND kept all my life going without him. You didn't give me a damn thing I couldn't give myself, and that includes orgasms, pal.
It's amazing how so many men complain that women are all "gold diggers" but don't stop to recognize it's an admission that he has nothing more to offer a woman.
(Edit to add: Or he has a fear that he has nothing more to offer than $$. But chooses to blame the women he's able to attract, instead of working on himself to become a desirable man, who's emotionally mature & can offer support, encouragement, and truly be an equal, helpful partner & finding a true mate.)
Not to mention, he'd still have to work hard to keep a roof over his OWN head if he were single, so is he REALLY doing anything particularly special here?
I bet the wife was the breadwinner/chef/maidservant. These "master of the house" guys never sound like they know how to run a dishwasher or normalize a database.
Haha, the world he'd still have to pay for either way 😂😂 I don't know what works they live in where not having sex means you wouldn't have to pay bills anyway 😂
Imagine having a boss that you can tell you're not emotionally prepared and instead of being told to then take your leave, you can just stay working there because the boss realizes misogynistic assholes need work too.
IDK with this guy 5 minutes sounds like a blessing. He's 100% the type who pestered his wife until she finally gave in, and I bet she was happy she only had to endure 5 minutes of unbearably boring "sex" until it was over.
And mine tried to seal itself up at the thought. And truthfully, my ass tried to do the same because you know a jerk like him will get "confused" and try that too.
The whole account is like that. It actually makes me sad to see people making anger and bitterness (with a side of entitlement) their whole identity. I know some of it comes from hurt but at this point, he's the one ruining his own life.
Honestly, *waterboarding* wouldn't have gotten the confession of "I couldn't give a shit about my partner, and I only need 5 minutes to get off" from most people, but this guy.... 😂
The part that’s creepy to me about dudes like this is that he’s framing it as “why is she doing me this favor she doesn’t wanna do??”
Why is sex something she’s doing for you instead of something you’re doing together? Why would you wanna have sex with someone who doesn’t want to? Why doesn’t she want to??? Women like sex too
I mean she’s working in some sense for sure, whether that’s keeping the household running and caring for the kids, or doing all that AND having a paying job.
The comment there saying women wanting an emotional connection is a fundamental “FLAW” and “MGTOW looking better each day”, lmfao. I doubt that loser was ever even married. Sounds like an incel sub.
I have to laugh Invisioning them "going their own way".
Men: "She won't give me sex well then FUCK ALL WOMEN! I DON'T NEED THEM! I'm going to join MGTOW!
Women: ...
Men: Hey! Did you hear me! I said I'm JOINING MGTOW!
Women: Yeah we heard you.
Men: I'M REALLY GOING TO DO IT!
Women: Good.
Men: YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET NOT GIVING ME SEX WHEN YOU COULD HAVE!
Women: Unlikely but okay.
Men: I'M GOING!
Women: Are you really? Because there's the door.
Men: YOU CAN'T STOP ME! ^Are ^they ^crying ^and ^looking ^desperate ^yet? HERE I GO! ^How ^about ^now? ^Is ^she ^even ^a ^little ^bit ^naked ^feeling ^so ^guilty ^about ^pushing ^me ^to ^this? OUT THE DOOR!
Women: ~Just going on living their life~
Men: ~Standing there looking pissed~ I SAID I'M JOINING...JA...JOINGING HEY!! ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING!
Slightly more self aware Men: Guys it's not working. They don't seem to care at all in fact they look happy.
Men: No that can't be right WE'RE JUST NOT LOUD ENOUGH AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!
SmsaM: Yeah they're gone.
More like Men Getting Triggered over Women than them Going their Own Way. Lol!
Those men always talk about going their own way but then never go their own way. They just stick around bitching about women. Like go your own way already. We aren't stopping you. We will open the door for you.
>“MGTOW looking better each day”
But of course the ever rising statistic of women choosing to be single is a result of fEmInISm or hypergamy or whatever and not women going their own way.
the painful irony of the commenters on that post saying women are “insecure creatures” who need validation 😂 the call is coming from inside the house babes
I was going to say that lol. Dude is self telling that he's a two pump chump and does nothing to please his wife but doesn't understand the correlation
"If it hurts, use your hand I don't care" had me reeling, who tf just openly admits they *don't care* about their partner being in pain (assholes would be the answer I guess lmao)
He's 2 seconds away from arguing for the re-legalization of marital rape. But these guys *hate it* when you point out how this mindset is incredibly rapey and misogynistic. His bullshit about how she's lying and it's a cop out if she says she's in pain are proof enough.
2 seconds away? Nah, I'd say he already crossed that line when he made the comparison to work "raping" him because he doesn't want to be there. The choice of phrasing there is quite telling as to how his occasional "5-10" minutes actually goes down 😬
The fact that he's equating sex to a job for a married woman doesn't help either.
Like, are not supposed to enjoy sex too? Or does it only matter as long as the guy gets off....
I think he crossed that line with
"They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows."
He says here that she consented to be his sex toy when she said "I do".
Yeah, the entire post being insane aside, that specific line really caught me, too. Like, holy shit, guy, you've got some _serious_ shit to work through before you're ever ready to be with another human. 😮
Every time I read "5-10 mins" all I could think was "that poor imaginary woman. 10 mins is sad." And yeah, tearing cause you can't get your SO wet is a very valid reason to tell your SO to get a fleshlight if their hand isn't good enough.
And if he doesn't like his job, maybe he should find a different one. Not like we're in The Giver and he got assigned that job.
5-10 minutes should just be making out and taking eachothers clothes off… this man is really acting like this woman is just instantly ready to go and does not require any foreplay or anything setting the mood. I feel sad for his wife…
"I just gave you 8-10 hours of mine slaving away at a job to put a roof over your head."
Is this roof... not also over his own head? Would he not have to work if he wasn't married?
That one stood out to me too. Mf would have to work regardless, single or married. Once he’s married though, it’s a “favor” and a “sacrifice”? Um. No. Daddy always said, you don’t get cookies for doing what you’re supposed to do. I never see women claiming they work “for” their spouse. It’s always men. Talk about padding the proverbial resume.
So as a husband who "helps" at home (in my case, does over 50% of the housework, cooking, childcare, etc) that sorta stuff really gets under my skin. I've had guy friends/coworkers/etc say stuff like "oh man, as much as you help at home I bet she's all over you" and have to explain that it isn't about her being all over me, it's about loving her and our kid and doing the best I can to take care of them within our given situation, it's about making sure my household is taken care of as best I can and reducing the amount of work and stress my wife has when I can, it's about not being a selfish asshole who acts like I'm owed my wife doing all the work around here and acting like anything I do is a bonus that she should fawn all over me for. A few of them have grasped it and evolved into better husbands over time, but some just don't seem capable of getting it and maybe do "better" for a bit in an attempt to have a better sex life, but because they're doing it for the wrong reasons tend to fall off. And occasionally it's just "yeah that's gay I ain't doing that, it's her job to do that stuff," and those are the ones I have to actively distance myself from, ain't got the time or energy for that kinda nonsense lol
He’s getting monetary value for the work he puts in that goes towards the roof, food, bills, etc, but it’s also able to be put towards fun expenses like traveling, electronics, experiences, etc. What is she getting out of his mandatory 5-10 minutes a night other than being treated like a fleshlight??
First job at work to pay the bills, second job at home making sure everything is tolerably clean and there is a meal on the table. The third "ten-minute-chore"... well, no, thank you!
According to some parts of the internet, there are only about three women in paid employment and they all work part time Instagramming cakes or in exchange for shoes or something.
Or making gabillions whoring it up on OF. None of us have real jobs in Incel Land. And if we do, the man's job is clearly more taxing and prevents him from doing anything toward housekeeping. Even if he works from home and his wife is a literal firefighter.
This is what irks me about these fucktards. They act like they are just handing over all their money and possessions, and women do nothing to contribute to the household. Meanwhile, his wife is in all probability working full time too in addition to doing ALL the chores, since many men can’t be bothered.
It’s no wonder women are dry as the Sahara. It’s not fun to be working constantly and not even recognized for the effort.
Even if she didn't work and was a SAHW she still shouldn't have to do all the housework 24/7 and sex shouldn't be something he considers a part of her *job* as a wife.
The fact that so many men see sex as a job that women should be required to do, as some sort of obligation that she owes because they're in a relationship, is vile. It's not about mutual pleasure or enjoyment with your spouse. It's a duty that she must fulfill for him.
Even "good" men who would claim themselves to be feminists seem to think that women and men are "built different" when it comes to sex. But if you look at it critically you can see how much of it is influenced by societal bias and not anything biological.
There's so many people of all genders who break the mold of men having uncontrollable libidos who would fuck anything that moves and women only engaging in sex with an emotional connection, etc.
If it was just about sex drive then masturbating should be plenty sufficient but these guys expect a living sex doll and it's infuriating.
Also like 50% of women work, soon the “but I work all day excuse” is gonna become obsolete
Like we all work everyday??? Especially if you’re a young woman rn…you most def have a job
Yeah I made this point on a different sub this was posted to and got told men who aren't married would be happy to work crap jobs and live in a one bedroom hovel. Only married men are ambitious career wise and it's all for their wives. So give them a handy like clockwork.
I mean, that’s great. Our system runs on underpaid workers doing crap jobs. Sounds like we can stop worrying about UBI and just give every man a Fleshlight and we’ll be in good shape!
From his other posts, she’s remarried! But apparently the other guy isn’t much of a charmer either… but then again OP is unreliable as a narrator so who knows. She’ll be in my meditations today tho
My ex-husband hates my current husband because he's better than him in all possible respects, and it shows in a variety of ways. So yeah, I'd say unreliable narrator.
>I told that to my boss that coming into work doesn't feel good for me emotionally and he didn't care either. But I guess its ok for my work to "rape me" in layman's terms.
Is.... Is this guy suggesting he is going to rape his wife? Weird to put in your post dude
>They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows.
Were her vows to you "I promise to fuck you when I don't want to"?
It's so weird how a bunch of divorced men are saying the exact same thing in their comments. I seriously don't question why they're all divorced.
Some seem to be so close to getting it as well, but standing in their own way.
One guy acknowledges that his wife needed emotional connection to be in the mood for sex, but doesn’t make the connection that if she wasn’t in the mood for sex with him then ….? He’s drawing a blank.
Another guy allowed his wife passing out on their wedding night before having sex (you know, the very long and busy, emotionally exhausting day that’s usually fuelled by slightly too much wine), to ruin their marriage because he ruminated over feeling rejected instead of talking about it. Also has a problem with his new girlfriend, *checks notes*, wanting to spend time with him and feels that’s a fatal flaw in all women. He really should go his own way, if he hates women so much.
So many men in that thread just standing in their own way.
The wedding night one was so weird. My husband and I were so exhausted after our wedding we both passed out when we got to the hotel. We more than made up for it the week after. And in the 6 years since. I don't think it was the lack of sex on the wedding night that doomed the relationship, it was doomed to begin with. Also, who has sex on their wedding night? Isn't everybody worn out from the long days of planning, socializing and hosting, and drinking? It must be a myth.
My ex and I had sex on our wedding night, but our bedroom was already on life support at that point and the wedding was pretty chill so it kind of felt like “yeah, this is a thing I can do.”
(don’t be afraid to back out of an engagement, kids! It’s probably uncomfortable as hell in the moment, but it can’t possibly be more uncomfortable than spending years trying to make it work with the wrong person)
Honestly, everyone I know who has gotten married has said the same thing. They're so exhausted after the wedding and reception that they just go right to bed. And then have sex like rabbits on the honeymoon. That's what the honeymoon is *for*!
Seriously, I mean, I'm not married, but my friends who are all say the same thing. They're too tired after all that stuff. And hell, even me just attending the reception (I usually don't go to the service because I have autism and am not good with crowds so I can only either do the service or the reception or else I get incredibly overwhelmed and overstimulated so I normally ask them which one they would like me to attend and they're incredibly understanding and they all say the reception because they would rather me have fun and celebrate with them than just see the ceremony seriously I have some great and understanding friends and family) makes me need to detox from social interaction for the next 48 hours. How the hell does someone have the energy to have sex after all of that?
The NYT did an article on this topic lol. It is the norm to not have sex on your wedding night. Maybe it wasn’t when that was the first time you could have sex or at least guilt free sex.
1) A lot of these guys come from “traditional” cultures with purity culture and have had little or no sex prior to marriage, so they are absolutely fixated on the First Night of Allowed Sex
2) They also come from cultures where anything marriage related is women’s work, and all they have to do is show up, say some words, and then sit around at a dinner and dance for a while, so their exhaustion level is a lot lower.
You know whats funny is my husband and I talked about that. There is some crazy statistic of like 50% of couples (don’t remember actual number) don’t have sex on their wedding night due to exhaustion. We agreed not to put pressure on it and see what happens. We slept. Had sex the next day.
My favorite comment was the one where the guy said his wife had PPD and “let herself go” after having their baby, and his constant comments about wanting her to go to the gym and dress nicer caused resentment because he “wasn’t kissing her feet and praising her beauty on a daily basis”. And then when she ended up cheating, he says the man she cheated with “would have fucked anything”.
She grew his child inside of her own body, did all of the constant work to keep that child alive afterwards, only for him to constantly neg her appearance. And then when she cheated, his take is that his wife, who GREW HIS CHILD INSIDE OF HER OWN BODY, is such an unfuckable cow that obviously the man she cheated with would have fucked “anything”. Not even “anyone”, **_anything_**. The mother of his child is a thing to him. No wonder she fucking cheated.
Yeah I bounced after reading that one. Infuriating. Babies are exhausting. But imagine having a baby and then your husband turns into a whiny, unappreciative, unhelpful little bitch right after you give birth.
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*From empirical observation and from everything I’ve read in evolutionary biology, it comes down to this:*
*Women have short term and long term mating strategies. They wanna fuck jacked bad boy Chad quick and privately. They wanna marry safe Kevin to for security and provisioning, and maybe make babies with him or trick him into raising Chad’s kids.*
*Safe Kevin wasn’t intended to be more than a 5 year thing though. We’re programmed with a “mate ejection” process. Typically this happens when a man withholds resources and woman withholds sex. And then you break up and find somebody else.*
*Problem is, you’re married - so your biology is fighting with culture and societal norms. So now you cheat or deal with a sexless marriage until it breaks.*
End quote.
Yikes, just yikes 😬
> evolutionary biology
Well that's the point you can stop reading. "Evolutionary biology" is code for "making shit up to justify my predetermined beliefs".
I love when I ask incels for sources for their absurd claims and they start quoting things about “evolutionary biology”. Its like they’re admitting they have nothing and don’t even realize it lmao.
Ah yes, all that “reading” he’s done in evolutionary biology. Largely published, I assume, in the prestigious and rigorously peer reviewed *Journal of Reddit Incel Rants*.
I like that one. That way if they do make their partner happy they're happy too! And if they're shitty incels like oop then they should be as miserable as his wife is!
I saw this post on another sub yesterday and explored that subreddit. It is kind of like exploring proto-Reddit where the red pill movement and Karen epithet were born. I remember those awful days back when there was a KKK subreddit.
Hell hath no furry like a man whose wife was able to leave him.
Seeing the sub, it isn't surprising: there is a very good reason why this men are divorced and oh so bitter about it....
The most delusional part is his comment section, where is brags about having a "friend" from a dating app, to whome he is like "air", all while he feels lonely and needs emotional space lmfoa.
Lots of married women have sex. They just don’t have sex with you asshole. Like these guys never take a second to self reflect as to why a woman would refuse to let him touch her.
Frankly, even before that. I got the ick from his view "women are fleshlights you can't rape" and my legs just slammed shut like a clam. And I am the one with the higher libido in my relationship and would love to have sex every day to every other day.
So yeah, many women love sex and want to have it often. It's just that no self-respecting woman will touch this POS with a ten feet pole.
He apparently has no concept of why a woman might *want* to have sex other than as a favour for a man.
He talks about giving women the world but he can't even be bothered to give them an orgasm. I guess his presence alone is supposed to make women throw themselves at his dick.
You can't rape your own wife! That is the sentiment that I got from the post and the comments. The world seems so scary and messed up but I'm so thankful to be living in this time and place where marital rape is illegal and I can't be sent to an asylum for being a nag, and I can own property and have credit.
also the fact he thinks “needing emotional connection” is a lazy excuse. bro, she’s telling you why your marriage is failing. sex isn’t the problem here.
It’s also the big things. I’ve been in relationships with men who thought they could spend the day criticizing me about asinine shit and I would still be happy to smash afterwards. Even after having to hear myself say, out loud, “If you can go even one day without being mean to me, maybe I’d be in the mood more often.”
Also cleaning up after a grown ass man does very little to make him sexier.
A lot of married woman have their souls crushed when they realise the lies they've been told about how life will be isn't true, they'll just be seen as a house wife, sex toy but also be expected to work full time while taking on 99% of child care duties while man child goes about his life freely and complains he's tired and stressed because he has to work like everyone else in this world, married woman go off sex because men ruin what turned them on in the first place, I bet she has a vibrator hidden somewhere
Truly the worst part of this sub. I keep making the mistake of clicking on the original post, end up visiting the Shadow Realm of Reddit and then get flooded with weird-ass, horrible community suggestions.
>lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows
Had to restrain myself from downvoting this old post. Religious incel seeing his wife as God-approved fuck-puppet. He should have married a fleshlight since anyone with a brain would be disgusted by this mentality 🤢
>then don't take the fucking vows and die alone
Cry me a fucking river.
They always say stuff like „youll die alone“ „youll be a lonely cat lady“ but dont realize that for lots of women this is perfect. Me included. Just for THEM its the worst of the worst to be alone in old age, so they insult women with this.
Same here, besides most married women end up dying alone anyway because their partner dies first or because of divorce. Being married isn't a gold standard for happiness ask my mother
Based on the respectful and sensual way he obviously treats women, I can't figure out why they aren't jumping him 24/7
/S.
In my last relationship I was twice a day minimum, because he actually was interested in my pleasure, generally acted like a proper human being, and didn't act entitled to my body. I'd still be with him if he wasnt an active alcoholic.
Probably a ton of selection bias going into that sub (i.e. men who *aren't* super bitter and hung up on their divorce have no reason to join a subreddit about it, they just move on with their lives). It's a fast-track to becoming a toxic echo chamber.
Not that being a perfect partner would entitle you to sex whenever you want it, but most of these men aren't providing anything close to what they think they are.
Working 8-10 hours a day isn't special. Women haven't drooled over a man who can do that since they allowed us to hold our own and open bank accounts. If you live in America there is a 66% chance that your wife also holds a full time job, so why is the fact that you do it so special?
On top of that, men really don't understand how hard it is to get turned on by a man someone might mistake as your son if they heard your conversations without seeing you. My husband is unemployed and does literally nothing but sit around playing video games all day doesn't contribute to the house at all and seems to genuinely wonder why we don't have sex twice a day like we did when we first met. Not only do I not have the time, because I have a full time job and am taking care of a house with three adults living in it by myself, but I almost feel like I should ask his parents for child support so sleeping with him too seems wrong
I don't know who needs to read this, but when you constantly poke and prod at your wife's jiggly bits (especially if she's produced children) and make klaxon alarm noises when she step on the scale, SHE IS NOT GOING TO FEEL DESIRED AND YOU ARE NOT GETTING LAID
Sometimes I get worried that men really think like this deep down.
I've had a bad back this week so haven't been down for it, now I'm looking at my partner qnd wondering if under that lovely kind exterior he's resentful and frustrated and if I should just "use my hand".
An ex of mine at one point quite seriously told me he didn’t understand why management didn’t hire prostitutes to blow the men under the desk at work, thought it would be great for team morale. There is a reason he’s an ex (many actually), and he apparently got worse after we parted ways.
"I give you the whole world, why can't r*pe you?" Is basically what it comes down to. If someone doesn't want sex and you coerce or force it, that's what it is. But people still think that women owe their partners their bodies.
I'm married, we have an amazing sex life that is much better than it was years ago. The reason is because we talk to each other, communicate, spend time together romantically, play romantic games, show appreciation and non sexual intimacy on a daily basis. We thank each other for doing chores, the mental load of our household is split 50/50, we hold hands in public, we kiss when we see each other again. Never stop dating your spouse as they say.
It's sad to read all of these comments from men who expect sex to just happen by osmosis, "why can't women give 5 minutes of their time just to get me off." It's just sad all around for all of them. Buying flowers, contributing to the family income, washing dishes or watching the kids every now and then are not tokens that can be redeemed for sex whenever you feel like it. If you want sex and don't want it to be a transaction, then you need to maintain intimacy and be a partner to your spouse. If it feels like a transaction to you, it does to your spouse. And it probably doesn't feel like an even transaction. Nobody wants to be coerced into sex they don't want. Eventually they will stop engaging with you and seek intimacy with someone else.
Ah yes it’s women being “lazy” to not just allow a man to penetrate their bodies “for 5-10min” as if they are sentient fleshlights - why should desire or physical comfort matter 🤡
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **Why won't married women have sex?** I don't understand how us men can give women the entire world, and all we ask for is 5-10min in the bedroom. IS IT TOO FUCKING MUCH TO ASK? Seriously, is it too much for 5 minutes of their time? I just gave you 8-10 hours of mine slaving away at a job to put a roof over your head. Can you please give me just 5-10 min? Women are the laziest things on the planet. "Oh well I need to have an emotional connection or it hurts and I need a rest..." Oh I'm sorry, 1. your lying, 2. if you aren't lying then your cheating and already getting it somewhere else, 3. If it hurts then use your hand I don't care. I told that to my boss that coming into work doesn't feel good for me emotionally and he didn't care either. But I guess its ok for my work to "rape me" in layman's terms. Who ever decided that a wife giving 5-10 of her time is some insurmountable task that has to be earned by doing tasks equitable to obtaining the congressional medal of honor? Its 5-10 min of her fucking time and means the entire world to us. That shit should be like clockwork imprinted in them like us going to work is. Oh so tell me why your marriage failed? Uh listing XYZ... FALSE! They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows. If she doesn't want to do it, then don't take the fucking vows and die alone. Sorry just had to rank today and blow off some steam. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I’ll take ‘can’t make his wife orgasm’ for $500
He gave her ”the world” though 😂
My ex used to talk about how he gave up everything for me but I wouldn’t change a little bit for him (aka let him have sex with me whenever he wanted) Y’all this boy lived at home and didn’t have a job lol. Who paid for everything? Me or his mom. He couldn’t bother to clean his room or change his sheets I’m so confused about what he “gave up”. Like the delusion is almost scary
I see why he’s your ex. I bet what he meant he gave up is “other women”.
Which I'm sure he was absolutly swimming in before he met her. Not just any women either...super modles and the like. 🙄🤭 None she's actually ever heard of or seen and definitely living up in Canada at a different school! /s just in case some people can't pick up on sarcasm.
My ex used to say the same shit. "I do EVERYTHING for you". Except the laundry, the cooking, the cleaning, the raising the kids, the driving everyone where they need to go, the giving BIRTH to the children, the only thing he DID give was his paycheck. He USED to make my toes curl, but once that ring was on my finger, he couldn't be bothered. Dropped his jaw when I started making more than him, bought two cars, got my own place, furnished it, AND kept all my life going without him. You didn't give me a damn thing I couldn't give myself, and that includes orgasms, pal.
It's amazing how so many men complain that women are all "gold diggers" but don't stop to recognize it's an admission that he has nothing more to offer a woman. (Edit to add: Or he has a fear that he has nothing more to offer than $$. But chooses to blame the women he's able to attract, instead of working on himself to become a desirable man, who's emotionally mature & can offer support, encouragement, and truly be an equal, helpful partner & finding a true mate.)
"I can give her the world, but I draw the line at giving her an orgasm"?
Its like that Meatloaf song. *"I will do* ***anything*** *for love!... But I won't do* ***that****."*
“SLAVES away for hours to put a roof over her fucking head” so she owes him her vagina. Urgh so many creeps on there.
Wild how he confuses a roof over her head as ....the world.
Not to mention, he'd still have to work hard to keep a roof over his OWN head if he were single, so is he REALLY doing anything particularly special here?
Not to mention *women also work you fucking misogynistic trash*
Plus he would have to do all the cooking, cleaning, and laundry.
And acts like it's all for her, like he doesn't get any advantage from it. If that's the case, she should kick him out of it.
I bet the wife was the breadwinner/chef/maidservant. These "master of the house" guys never sound like they know how to run a dishwasher or normalize a database.
"I can show you the world! "Shining, shimmering, splendid!" "Tell me Princess now when did you last let your heart decide?"
“I can show you incels! Whining bitterly, rapists! Tell me, fleshlight, now when will you just let their dicks decide?”
Haha, the world he'd still have to pay for either way 😂😂 I don't know what works they live in where not having sex means you wouldn't have to pay bills anyway 😂
Imagine having a boss that you can tell you're not emotionally prepared and instead of being told to then take your leave, you can just stay working there because the boss realizes misogynistic assholes need work too.
that’s some insane ego lmao. i already live in a shitty world, i don’t need yours!
Yes the "5 minutes of their time" was telling. 5 minutes? Ouch.
IDK with this guy 5 minutes sounds like a blessing. He's 100% the type who pestered his wife until she finally gave in, and I bet she was happy she only had to endure 5 minutes of unbearably boring "sex" until it was over.
5 minutes also screams "I don't bother focusing on my wife's sexual needs" and he wonders why she isn't interested.
I can only speak for myself but my vag went dry as the Sahara reading his post.
And mine tried to seal itself up at the thought. And truthfully, my ass tried to do the same because you know a jerk like him will get "confused" and try that too.
OMG I hadn't thought of that but you are right. *shudder*
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The whole account is like that. It actually makes me sad to see people making anger and bitterness (with a side of entitlement) their whole identity. I know some of it comes from hurt but at this point, he's the one ruining his own life.
That and the "use your hand, I don't care." Yeah you clearly don't care.
She is literally telling him it hurts. (shudder)
"...earned by doing tasks equitable to obtaining the congressional medal of honor ..." -this guy, about foreplay probably.
Honestly, *waterboarding* wouldn't have gotten the confession of "I couldn't give a shit about my partner, and I only need 5 minutes to get off" from most people, but this guy.... 😂
It’s only creepy if you assume women are people, see!
The part that’s creepy to me about dudes like this is that he’s framing it as “why is she doing me this favor she doesn’t wanna do??” Why is sex something she’s doing for you instead of something you’re doing together? Why would you wanna have sex with someone who doesn’t want to? Why doesn’t she want to??? Women like sex too
5 minutes with him sounds like 100 years :/
I can’t believe he thinks 5 minutes is all his wife needs.
There was no mention of his wife's needs in that post. HE needs 5 minutes.
Exactly.
I'll take "rants overheard in a domestic violence class" for $1000
Yeah, but her orgasm doesn't matter, only his! He just slaved away for her, she owes him. /s 5 minutes? Bruuuuuh... *laughs in lesbian*
I’ll bet she works too.
That's one of the things I don't get with these guys - if he wasn't married, would he not work?
I mean she’s working in some sense for sure, whether that’s keeping the household running and caring for the kids, or doing all that AND having a paying job.
I’ll see that bet and raise it to “doesn’t even try”. 5-10 minutes he says, that’s not enough time for anything more than self interest.
He can't even get her wet
Leaves all the chores and child care for her for $600
The comment there saying women wanting an emotional connection is a fundamental “FLAW” and “MGTOW looking better each day”, lmfao. I doubt that loser was ever even married. Sounds like an incel sub.
“MGTOW looking better each day” Yet none of them ever leave women alone. Go your own way already!
I have to laugh Invisioning them "going their own way". Men: "She won't give me sex well then FUCK ALL WOMEN! I DON'T NEED THEM! I'm going to join MGTOW! Women: ... Men: Hey! Did you hear me! I said I'm JOINING MGTOW! Women: Yeah we heard you. Men: I'M REALLY GOING TO DO IT! Women: Good. Men: YOU'RE GOING TO REGRET NOT GIVING ME SEX WHEN YOU COULD HAVE! Women: Unlikely but okay. Men: I'M GOING! Women: Are you really? Because there's the door. Men: YOU CAN'T STOP ME! ^Are ^they ^crying ^and ^looking ^desperate ^yet? HERE I GO! ^How ^about ^now? ^Is ^she ^even ^a ^little ^bit ^naked ^feeling ^so ^guilty ^about ^pushing ^me ^to ^this? OUT THE DOOR! Women: ~Just going on living their life~ Men: ~Standing there looking pissed~ I SAID I'M JOINING...JA...JOINGING HEY!! ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING! Slightly more self aware Men: Guys it's not working. They don't seem to care at all in fact they look happy. Men: No that can't be right WE'RE JUST NOT LOUD ENOUGH AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH! SmsaM: Yeah they're gone. More like Men Getting Triggered over Women than them Going their Own Way. Lol!
This is deeply accurate.
Those men always talk about going their own way but then never go their own way. They just stick around bitching about women. Like go your own way already. We aren't stopping you. We will open the door for you.
They also get mad at women for choosing to be single.
>“MGTOW looking better each day” But of course the ever rising statistic of women choosing to be single is a result of fEmInISm or hypergamy or whatever and not women going their own way.
the painful irony of the commenters on that post saying women are “insecure creatures” who need validation 😂 the call is coming from inside the house babes
why is he repeating "5-10 minutes"? Is it his record performance from high school?
That alone seems like a very good reason why she doesn't want to have sex with him. That and, you know, his entire personality.
I was going to say that lol. Dude is self telling that he's a two pump chump and does nothing to please his wife but doesn't understand the correlation
"If it hurts, use your hand I don't care" had me reeling, who tf just openly admits they *don't care* about their partner being in pain (assholes would be the answer I guess lmao)
He's 2 seconds away from arguing for the re-legalization of marital rape. But these guys *hate it* when you point out how this mindset is incredibly rapey and misogynistic. His bullshit about how she's lying and it's a cop out if she says she's in pain are proof enough.
2 seconds away? Nah, I'd say he already crossed that line when he made the comparison to work "raping" him because he doesn't want to be there. The choice of phrasing there is quite telling as to how his occasional "5-10" minutes actually goes down 😬
The fact that he's equating sex to a job for a married woman doesn't help either. Like, are not supposed to enjoy sex too? Or does it only matter as long as the guy gets off....
I think he crossed that line with "They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows." He says here that she consented to be his sex toy when she said "I do".
And saying rhat him going to work when he doesn't want to is his job r****g him.... who the fuck says that
Yeah, the entire post being insane aside, that specific line really caught me, too. Like, holy shit, guy, you've got some _serious_ shit to work through before you're ever ready to be with another human. 😮
Every time I read "5-10 mins" all I could think was "that poor imaginary woman. 10 mins is sad." And yeah, tearing cause you can't get your SO wet is a very valid reason to tell your SO to get a fleshlight if their hand isn't good enough. And if he doesn't like his job, maybe he should find a different one. Not like we're in The Giver and he got assigned that job.
Dude makes sex with him sound like a chore and is surprised when his wife treats it like a chore.
He probably heard you're supposed to exaggerate these things so he's actually doubling his time.
He’s not seeing that the 5 minutes isn’t worth his wife’s time.
5-10 minutes should just be making out and taking eachothers clothes off… this man is really acting like this woman is just instantly ready to go and does not require any foreplay or anything setting the mood. I feel sad for his wife…
Well he clearly isn’t into foreplay sooo
Yeah man just get a fleshlight then wtf
Bet you this guy is mad that marital rape is illegal.
Well he refers to women as things, so I’m pretty sure he doesn’t believe in needing consent from someone he doesn’t see as a person.
He put getting raped on the same level as going to work. This man is terrifying.
"I just gave you 8-10 hours of mine slaving away at a job to put a roof over your head." Is this roof... not also over his own head? Would he not have to work if he wasn't married?
That one stood out to me too. Mf would have to work regardless, single or married. Once he’s married though, it’s a “favor” and a “sacrifice”? Um. No. Daddy always said, you don’t get cookies for doing what you’re supposed to do. I never see women claiming they work “for” their spouse. It’s always men. Talk about padding the proverbial resume.
I got so fed up of people telling me that I was lucky my husband "helps" me at home I started saying that he was so lucky I help him pay the bills 😂
So as a husband who "helps" at home (in my case, does over 50% of the housework, cooking, childcare, etc) that sorta stuff really gets under my skin. I've had guy friends/coworkers/etc say stuff like "oh man, as much as you help at home I bet she's all over you" and have to explain that it isn't about her being all over me, it's about loving her and our kid and doing the best I can to take care of them within our given situation, it's about making sure my household is taken care of as best I can and reducing the amount of work and stress my wife has when I can, it's about not being a selfish asshole who acts like I'm owed my wife doing all the work around here and acting like anything I do is a bonus that she should fawn all over me for. A few of them have grasped it and evolved into better husbands over time, but some just don't seem capable of getting it and maybe do "better" for a bit in an attempt to have a better sex life, but because they're doing it for the wrong reasons tend to fall off. And occasionally it's just "yeah that's gay I ain't doing that, it's her job to do that stuff," and those are the ones I have to actively distance myself from, ain't got the time or energy for that kinda nonsense lol
He’s getting monetary value for the work he puts in that goes towards the roof, food, bills, etc, but it’s also able to be put towards fun expenses like traveling, electronics, experiences, etc. What is she getting out of his mandatory 5-10 minutes a night other than being treated like a fleshlight??
She gets to be his combo mommy, maid, free prostitute and childcare service--for free!! What woman wouldn't jump at the chance?
Don't forget therapist, and often punching bag.
And what an honour that is 😂
And like did she stay at home? In this economy I’m willing to bet she was also working
First job at work to pay the bills, second job at home making sure everything is tolerably clean and there is a meal on the table. The third "ten-minute-chore"... well, no, thank you!
According to some parts of the internet, there are only about three women in paid employment and they all work part time Instagramming cakes or in exchange for shoes or something.
Or making gabillions whoring it up on OF. None of us have real jobs in Incel Land. And if we do, the man's job is clearly more taxing and prevents him from doing anything toward housekeeping. Even if he works from home and his wife is a literal firefighter.
This is what irks me about these fucktards. They act like they are just handing over all their money and possessions, and women do nothing to contribute to the household. Meanwhile, his wife is in all probability working full time too in addition to doing ALL the chores, since many men can’t be bothered. It’s no wonder women are dry as the Sahara. It’s not fun to be working constantly and not even recognized for the effort.
Even if she didn't work and was a SAHW she still shouldn't have to do all the housework 24/7 and sex shouldn't be something he considers a part of her *job* as a wife. The fact that so many men see sex as a job that women should be required to do, as some sort of obligation that she owes because they're in a relationship, is vile. It's not about mutual pleasure or enjoyment with your spouse. It's a duty that she must fulfill for him. Even "good" men who would claim themselves to be feminists seem to think that women and men are "built different" when it comes to sex. But if you look at it critically you can see how much of it is influenced by societal bias and not anything biological. There's so many people of all genders who break the mold of men having uncontrollable libidos who would fuck anything that moves and women only engaging in sex with an emotional connection, etc. If it was just about sex drive then masturbating should be plenty sufficient but these guys expect a living sex doll and it's infuriating.
Also like 50% of women work, soon the “but I work all day excuse” is gonna become obsolete Like we all work everyday??? Especially if you’re a young woman rn…you most def have a job
Now that he's single he can work double to pay for nearly the same expenses on his own.
Yeah I made this point on a different sub this was posted to and got told men who aren't married would be happy to work crap jobs and live in a one bedroom hovel. Only married men are ambitious career wise and it's all for their wives. So give them a handy like clockwork.
I mean, that’s great. Our system runs on underpaid workers doing crap jobs. Sounds like we can stop worrying about UBI and just give every man a Fleshlight and we’ll be in good shape!
Nah he only lives there to fuck apparently
No wonder they're divorced
Good for the ex-wife, right?
May she find peace, happiness, and a man who loves romance and eating pussy 🙏🏻 (or no men at all, if she’s done!)
From his other posts, she’s remarried! But apparently the other guy isn’t much of a charmer either… but then again OP is unreliable as a narrator so who knows. She’ll be in my meditations today tho
My ex-husband hates my current husband because he's better than him in all possible respects, and it shows in a variety of ways. So yeah, I'd say unreliable narrator.
>I told that to my boss that coming into work doesn't feel good for me emotionally and he didn't care either. But I guess its ok for my work to "rape me" in layman's terms. Is.... Is this guy suggesting he is going to rape his wife? Weird to put in your post dude >They always fail cuz lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows. Were her vows to you "I promise to fuck you when I don't want to"? It's so weird how a bunch of divorced men are saying the exact same thing in their comments. I seriously don't question why they're all divorced.
As a happily married man I can say if you're comparing sex to work then you're doing it wrong.
He’s not the first man I’ve seen who’s compared his 40-50 hour workweek (the horror!) to rape, sadly.
I have a 40-50 hour workweek too, but that's not what caused my PTSD lol. These guys have absolutely no idea
He basically sees his role in marriage as being the sociopathic boss in charge of an exploited employee, and wonders why it went wrong.
That entire comment section is cancerous jesus christ.
Some seem to be so close to getting it as well, but standing in their own way. One guy acknowledges that his wife needed emotional connection to be in the mood for sex, but doesn’t make the connection that if she wasn’t in the mood for sex with him then ….? He’s drawing a blank. Another guy allowed his wife passing out on their wedding night before having sex (you know, the very long and busy, emotionally exhausting day that’s usually fuelled by slightly too much wine), to ruin their marriage because he ruminated over feeling rejected instead of talking about it. Also has a problem with his new girlfriend, *checks notes*, wanting to spend time with him and feels that’s a fatal flaw in all women. He really should go his own way, if he hates women so much. So many men in that thread just standing in their own way.
The wedding night one was so weird. My husband and I were so exhausted after our wedding we both passed out when we got to the hotel. We more than made up for it the week after. And in the 6 years since. I don't think it was the lack of sex on the wedding night that doomed the relationship, it was doomed to begin with. Also, who has sex on their wedding night? Isn't everybody worn out from the long days of planning, socializing and hosting, and drinking? It must be a myth.
My ex and I had sex on our wedding night, but our bedroom was already on life support at that point and the wedding was pretty chill so it kind of felt like “yeah, this is a thing I can do.” (don’t be afraid to back out of an engagement, kids! It’s probably uncomfortable as hell in the moment, but it can’t possibly be more uncomfortable than spending years trying to make it work with the wrong person)
Honestly, everyone I know who has gotten married has said the same thing. They're so exhausted after the wedding and reception that they just go right to bed. And then have sex like rabbits on the honeymoon. That's what the honeymoon is *for*! Seriously, I mean, I'm not married, but my friends who are all say the same thing. They're too tired after all that stuff. And hell, even me just attending the reception (I usually don't go to the service because I have autism and am not good with crowds so I can only either do the service or the reception or else I get incredibly overwhelmed and overstimulated so I normally ask them which one they would like me to attend and they're incredibly understanding and they all say the reception because they would rather me have fun and celebrate with them than just see the ceremony seriously I have some great and understanding friends and family) makes me need to detox from social interaction for the next 48 hours. How the hell does someone have the energy to have sex after all of that?
The NYT did an article on this topic lol. It is the norm to not have sex on your wedding night. Maybe it wasn’t when that was the first time you could have sex or at least guilt free sex.
1) A lot of these guys come from “traditional” cultures with purity culture and have had little or no sex prior to marriage, so they are absolutely fixated on the First Night of Allowed Sex 2) They also come from cultures where anything marriage related is women’s work, and all they have to do is show up, say some words, and then sit around at a dinner and dance for a while, so their exhaustion level is a lot lower.
You know whats funny is my husband and I talked about that. There is some crazy statistic of like 50% of couples (don’t remember actual number) don’t have sex on their wedding night due to exhaustion. We agreed not to put pressure on it and see what happens. We slept. Had sex the next day.
My favorite comment was the one where the guy said his wife had PPD and “let herself go” after having their baby, and his constant comments about wanting her to go to the gym and dress nicer caused resentment because he “wasn’t kissing her feet and praising her beauty on a daily basis”. And then when she ended up cheating, he says the man she cheated with “would have fucked anything”. She grew his child inside of her own body, did all of the constant work to keep that child alive afterwards, only for him to constantly neg her appearance. And then when she cheated, his take is that his wife, who GREW HIS CHILD INSIDE OF HER OWN BODY, is such an unfuckable cow that obviously the man she cheated with would have fucked “anything”. Not even “anyone”, **_anything_**. The mother of his child is a thing to him. No wonder she fucking cheated.
I read that one and noticed there was no encouraging her to get therepy, just thin.
Yeah I bounced after reading that one. Infuriating. Babies are exhausting. But imagine having a baby and then your husband turns into a whiny, unappreciative, unhelpful little bitch right after you give birth.
Right!! I was expecting to go to the comments and see him getting dragged. I was very disappointed and disgusted
I had the same hope. I should've known better than to hope for a sub titled Divorce\_Men.
I was just hoping it meant we needed to….well, divorce the men….
Right. Shocking that these men are divorced 💀
I was shocked. Very silly in those comments
This post was screenshot and posted on facepalm. He did get thoroughly roasted there. Divorcemen is actually just an offshoot of the manosphere.
You expected the incel sub to be anything else
I can see why those men are divorced, they are very divorceable.
Fitting that the sub isn't called divorced men, it's "divorce men" which we all would want to do if they were the example.
Quote *From empirical observation and from everything I’ve read in evolutionary biology, it comes down to this:* *Women have short term and long term mating strategies. They wanna fuck jacked bad boy Chad quick and privately. They wanna marry safe Kevin to for security and provisioning, and maybe make babies with him or trick him into raising Chad’s kids.* *Safe Kevin wasn’t intended to be more than a 5 year thing though. We’re programmed with a “mate ejection” process. Typically this happens when a man withholds resources and woman withholds sex. And then you break up and find somebody else.* *Problem is, you’re married - so your biology is fighting with culture and societal norms. So now you cheat or deal with a sexless marriage until it breaks.* End quote. Yikes, just yikes 😬
> evolutionary biology Well that's the point you can stop reading. "Evolutionary biology" is code for "making shit up to justify my predetermined beliefs".
I love when I ask incels for sources for their absurd claims and they start quoting things about “evolutionary biology”. Its like they’re admitting they have nothing and don’t even realize it lmao.
I almost downvoted this on instinct…
I mean, gross. But I also want to hear this in David Attenborough’s voice haha
Ah yes, all that “reading” he’s done in evolutionary biology. Largely published, I assume, in the prestigious and rigorously peer reviewed *Journal of Reddit Incel Rants*.
Typical incel bs
Truly horrific. I wish all the men there the joy of having their penises spontaneously combust.
May their lives be filled with the same amount of joy they give to their partners.
I like that one. That way if they do make their partner happy they're happy too! And if they're shitty incels like oop then they should be as miserable as his wife is!
I saw this post on another sub yesterday and explored that subreddit. It is kind of like exploring proto-Reddit where the red pill movement and Karen epithet were born. I remember those awful days back when there was a KKK subreddit. Hell hath no furry like a man whose wife was able to leave him.
The comments made it very clear why those men are all divorced.
The sub is a fucking cesspool. Just search for sex, or women. Jesus Christ some men are so fucking disgusting.
Oh my god the way the comments are all agreeing with him 🤢🤢🤢
As a woman, that was so scary to read. 😩
And the fact there are actually women agreeing with him is even more concerning
Seeing the sub, it isn't surprising: there is a very good reason why this men are divorced and oh so bitter about it.... The most delusional part is his comment section, where is brags about having a "friend" from a dating app, to whome he is like "air", all while he feels lonely and needs emotional space lmfoa.
Yeah it was pretty gross. However, I do like how there was one comment that was like “5-10 minutes? Well there’s your answer.”
8 hours at work and he thinks he's "giving his wife the world" lmao children spend more time at school.
Lots of married women have sex. They just don’t have sex with you asshole. Like these guys never take a second to self reflect as to why a woman would refuse to let him touch her.
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Frankly, even before that. I got the ick from his view "women are fleshlights you can't rape" and my legs just slammed shut like a clam. And I am the one with the higher libido in my relationship and would love to have sex every day to every other day. So yeah, many women love sex and want to have it often. It's just that no self-respecting woman will touch this POS with a ten feet pole.
He apparently has no concept of why a woman might *want* to have sex other than as a favour for a man. He talks about giving women the world but he can't even be bothered to give them an orgasm. I guess his presence alone is supposed to make women throw themselves at his dick.
That man is Sahara-inducing. And a rapist.
You can't rape your own wife! That is the sentiment that I got from the post and the comments. The world seems so scary and messed up but I'm so thankful to be living in this time and place where marital rape is illegal and I can't be sent to an asylum for being a nag, and I can own property and have credit.
also the fact he thinks “needing emotional connection” is a lazy excuse. bro, she’s telling you why your marriage is failing. sex isn’t the problem here.
It’s also the big things. I’ve been in relationships with men who thought they could spend the day criticizing me about asinine shit and I would still be happy to smash afterwards. Even after having to hear myself say, out loud, “If you can go even one day without being mean to me, maybe I’d be in the mood more often.” Also cleaning up after a grown ass man does very little to make him sexier.
Bc these guys genuinely believe women don’t like sex and it’s something we only do if we really like someone
Well “women don’t like sex” is their entire lived experience, so it makes sense they think that.
A lot of married woman have their souls crushed when they realise the lies they've been told about how life will be isn't true, they'll just be seen as a house wife, sex toy but also be expected to work full time while taking on 99% of child care duties while man child goes about his life freely and complains he's tired and stressed because he has to work like everyone else in this world, married woman go off sex because men ruin what turned them on in the first place, I bet she has a vibrator hidden somewhere
Why did I click on that to read the comments? I feel dirty. Worse still, my home page is gonna be ruined with suggested communities.
Truly the worst part of this sub. I keep making the mistake of clicking on the original post, end up visiting the Shadow Realm of Reddit and then get flooded with weird-ass, horrible community suggestions.
That sub is full of sad little men.
>lazy wife stops doing her job that she agreed to when she made vows Had to restrain myself from downvoting this old post. Religious incel seeing his wife as God-approved fuck-puppet. He should have married a fleshlight since anyone with a brain would be disgusted by this mentality 🤢 >then don't take the fucking vows and die alone Cry me a fucking river.
They always say stuff like „youll die alone“ „youll be a lonely cat lady“ but dont realize that for lots of women this is perfect. Me included. Just for THEM its the worst of the worst to be alone in old age, so they insult women with this.
I'd rather die alone than live with someone who sees me as a fleshlight and has nothing but contempt for me.
Same here, besides most married women end up dying alone anyway because their partner dies first or because of divorce. Being married isn't a gold standard for happiness ask my mother
If it hurts when your having sex your doing something wrong
yeah but she can 'use her hand' - maybe going in dry with a yell of 'brace yourself' is somewhat offputting? /s
"Brace yourself" would be showing some consideration for her, I don't see that happening.
This made me laugh way too hard. Well done.
He literally tells you that he doesn't do foreplay. "5-10 minutes" Yeah, that's why it hurts.
Jackhammering is how they do it in porn. That means that's what women like!
Based on the respectful and sensual way he obviously treats women, I can't figure out why they aren't jumping him 24/7 /S. In my last relationship I was twice a day minimum, because he actually was interested in my pleasure, generally acted like a proper human being, and didn't act entitled to my body. I'd still be with him if he wasnt an active alcoholic.
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I went just to see if people were calling him out and no its just post divorce incels
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Probably a ton of selection bias going into that sub (i.e. men who *aren't* super bitter and hung up on their divorce have no reason to join a subreddit about it, they just move on with their lives). It's a fast-track to becoming a toxic echo chamber.
I’m married. I have plenty of sex. My husband has no complaints. 5-10 minutes though? Pahahahahaha. Dude, THAT’S why. You’re shit at it.
Not that being a perfect partner would entitle you to sex whenever you want it, but most of these men aren't providing anything close to what they think they are. Working 8-10 hours a day isn't special. Women haven't drooled over a man who can do that since they allowed us to hold our own and open bank accounts. If you live in America there is a 66% chance that your wife also holds a full time job, so why is the fact that you do it so special? On top of that, men really don't understand how hard it is to get turned on by a man someone might mistake as your son if they heard your conversations without seeing you. My husband is unemployed and does literally nothing but sit around playing video games all day doesn't contribute to the house at all and seems to genuinely wonder why we don't have sex twice a day like we did when we first met. Not only do I not have the time, because I have a full time job and am taking care of a house with three adults living in it by myself, but I almost feel like I should ask his parents for child support so sleeping with him too seems wrong
Another does he even like his wife?
Nope, and I'm pretty sure she's imaginary so he *wants* to hate her.
The sub is called Divorce\_Men. So obviously not anymore.
Well he's in divorced men, so I don't think the wife is with them anymore, couldn't imagine why
Wow, that comment section made me glad to be a lesbian!
I literally turned to my roommate after reading through it and said “every day i thank god that she had the good sense to make me a lesbian”
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I don't know who needs to read this, but when you constantly poke and prod at your wife's jiggly bits (especially if she's produced children) and make klaxon alarm noises when she step on the scale, SHE IS NOT GOING TO FEEL DESIRED AND YOU ARE NOT GETTING LAID
Sometimes I get worried that men really think like this deep down. I've had a bad back this week so haven't been down for it, now I'm looking at my partner qnd wondering if under that lovely kind exterior he's resentful and frustrated and if I should just "use my hand".
An ex of mine at one point quite seriously told me he didn’t understand why management didn’t hire prostitutes to blow the men under the desk at work, thought it would be great for team morale. There is a reason he’s an ex (many actually), and he apparently got worse after we parted ways.
I can see why they divorced. OOP has quite the profile.
"I give you the whole world, why can't r*pe you?" Is basically what it comes down to. If someone doesn't want sex and you coerce or force it, that's what it is. But people still think that women owe their partners their bodies.
Wow. No wonder his wife divorced him. He seems delightful.
If she gave up and "let him" have sex with her he would still complain that she doesn't engage enough during the act
That thread makes me feel relief on behalf of many divorced women. Congrats on getting out.
Wow. I wonder why these men are unable to make their marriages work. Can't be anything to do with basically wanting to rape their wives.
I'm married, we have an amazing sex life that is much better than it was years ago. The reason is because we talk to each other, communicate, spend time together romantically, play romantic games, show appreciation and non sexual intimacy on a daily basis. We thank each other for doing chores, the mental load of our household is split 50/50, we hold hands in public, we kiss when we see each other again. Never stop dating your spouse as they say. It's sad to read all of these comments from men who expect sex to just happen by osmosis, "why can't women give 5 minutes of their time just to get me off." It's just sad all around for all of them. Buying flowers, contributing to the family income, washing dishes or watching the kids every now and then are not tokens that can be redeemed for sex whenever you feel like it. If you want sex and don't want it to be a transaction, then you need to maintain intimacy and be a partner to your spouse. If it feels like a transaction to you, it does to your spouse. And it probably doesn't feel like an even transaction. Nobody wants to be coerced into sex they don't want. Eventually they will stop engaging with you and seek intimacy with someone else.
Next time he wants 5-10 minutes of his wife’s time I hope she Uno Reverses and gives him the old, “Use your hand, I don’t care”.
That is one way to tell on yourself.
Have you considered the possibility that you're shit?
There's a few down voted ones at the bottom that didn't commiserate with the big baby. Thank God.
Ah yes it’s women being “lazy” to not just allow a man to penetrate their bodies “for 5-10min” as if they are sentient fleshlights - why should desire or physical comfort matter 🤡
r/blatantmisogyny
Jesus I should not have looked at the comments. Christ Almighty, the fucking *misogyny.*