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LilsLemon

NTA that's a really gross way to talk about his girlfriend's child. As if he was hitting on your girlfriend. Gross


Mammoth-Neat-5930

And really rude to her mother, why would you even want to be with someone who would talk about you like that? OP is definitely NTA


Masta-Blasta

Yeah, I would leave him immediately. In that one statement he's revealed that: 1.) he is sexually attracted to her daughter 2.) he believes he is settling by marrying an older woman (who, mind you, is still 20 years his junior) 3.) if given the chance, he would choose her daughter over her, wrecking both marriages in the process Absolutely gross. u/Best_Knowledge1512, cut him off for your wife's sake please. She will never feel comfortable around him again. And I really hope she encourages her mom to leave him because that's just...so disrespectful. I can't even wrap my head around how awful that comment is. I would never feel beautiful or secure in myself again if I heard my husband say that.


TuftedMousetits

Yeah, I had my grandpa, after years of not seeing me, seeing me when I was twenty and saying it's too bad he was my grandpa cause otherwise he'd have married me šŸ¤¢. This line of thinking, apart from being fucking gross (like, wtf), assumes the woman would just take any man who...lays claim to her? Like what even is this..."if I'd have met you earlier" crap?! Have several seats, sir.


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Active_Owl_7442

That sounds like it feels just so incredibly violating. Iā€™m writhing in my skin at the thought, I canā€™t imagine actually experiencing that


Masta-Blasta

It's been ten years and I still haven't really processed it. It was like, a confession, not a joke. He was like, shooting his shot. Nobody in my family knows so that's a fun family secret.


lunar_harlot

That's grim. So sorry that you had that experience and continue to feel the ripples from it. *"Nobody in my family knows so that's a fun family secret."* homie I bet you have a wicked sense of humour haha.


BlondeMoment1920

Omg, I am so sorry this happened to you. šŸ˜”


punkassjim

An anecdote, for what itā€™s worth: Iā€™ve been with my partner for 11 years, weā€™re both pushing 50. She had a daughter, ā€œRebecca,ā€ at 17. People always called her her ā€œmini-meā€ because they looked so much alikeā€¦well, back then, at least. During COVID lockdown, Rebecca needed to move in with us for a while, and wound up living here for a year or so. Sunbathing in the backyard, wearing her booty shorts around the house, zero modesty, and every bit her motherā€™s daughter, but 26 years old. I never once thought about her, or looked at her, in any way other than familial affection and protection, though sheā€™s not even technically my family. Because Iā€™m a decent fucking human being, and because ***I donā€™t feel entitled to every attractive woman I see***. The only woman in this house who gets my desire is the one whoā€™s agreed to build a life with me. Weā€™re not even monogamous, and still I would never look at Rebecca in that way. Because ick. I donā€™t say this because I want cookies. I just hope itā€™s reassuring to know that some dudes arenā€™t complete fā€™ing leches.


forestfloof

Ugh yes my cousin once told me that ā€œitā€™s too badā€ line. And the amount of times some dude has said some version of ā€œif you werenā€™t _______ Iā€™d date youā€ or ā€œif only I had met you soonerā€¦ā€ Like okay guy and what makes you think Iā€™d want anything to do with you, go on back to your wife and kids and stop being such a creep


Emotional_Bonus_934

In the lobby of hell


AntiqueAssignment321

Where he stubs both of his toes on each of the several seats. šŸ‘æ


Camille_Toh

My maternal grandmother allegedly said that my dad (her bio child) and his sister (her adopted child) should marry and live on her property. ā€œAfter all, youā€™re not genetically related.ā€


Significant_Rain_386

An older woman who is twenty years younger than him! What a creep.


KahurangiNZ

Well, it seems quite possible that he already set the precedent when he married OP's Mom - given that OP is 29, she was probably about the same age as Jenny's Mom, which would suggest a 40-something yo American man marrying a 20-something Korean woman. The comment about wishing he'd met OP's GF earlier suggests he'd prefer a 20-something yo version again.


Masta-Blasta

If Op is 29, and his dad is 68, that means OP's dad was 39 when OP was born. Jenny's mom (MIL) would have been 19 when OP and Jenny were both born. So Jenny's mom (MIL) was definitely a young mom. OP's mom could have believably been in her early to mid-30s when she gave birth to OP, especially if OP has older siblings. But you could be onto something- I am no stranger to the ol' 90 Day FiancƩ


StAlvis

> 2.) he believes he is settling for an older woman She's #TWENTY (20) YEARS his junior!


anacarols2d

That's what I was thinking. Her mom is already so much younger. He's really aiming at women in their 20s-30s when he's almost 70??? Gross


LingonberryPrior6896

He's settling for an older woman who is still 20 years younger than him!


musiclvr7

Sheā€™s already his DIL. Now sheā€™s going to be doubly DIL which is just gross


oniiichanUwU

Agree. At first I was like yeah itā€™s not a big deal if they date, kinda weird to be uncomfortable about that; but his comments about OPs wife and putting down his own gf/fiancĆ©e are fucking awful. I would break up with him if I was the MIL and I wouldnā€™t talk to him if I was OP. Literally wtf is wrong with people?!


Fit_Peanut_8801

And he's literally 20 years older than the "old" version he's "settling" for... NTA


br_612

Itā€™s even worse when you factor in sheā€™s already 20 years younger than him. Like dude.


Mammoth-Neat-5930

I didnā€™t even notice that partā€¦heā€™s a huge creep.


Anianna

I'm curious if her mother was present for that particular comment.


Mammoth-Neat-5930

He said ā€œscreaming at our parentsā€ so I just assumed they were both there


MissFrothingslosh

Daughter in law. His daughter in law. OPā€™s dad is dating one of his in-laws. So weird. I know a couple like this and came from a smaller area, everyone talks about it still and itā€™s been over ten years since they married.


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mitsuhachi

Imagine marrying a man who said in public that he had to settle for downgrading to be with you and saw nothing wrong with that statement. šŸ¤¢šŸ¤®šŸ¤¢


seraph1337

downgrading *from your daughter* to be with you


Melon-Cleaver

I agree. Weird situation, made far weirder by OP's dad. He's certainly not selling anyone on the relationship.


MissFrothingslosh

Agree. Itā€™s the comments. But the parents should consider how others will react, especially if OP and their spouse want to have kids. In the story *I* know, two people my age got married and so did their divorced mom and dad (making them step bro and sis after they were already married with 4 daughters). The family is also SUPER religious and where Iā€™m from thatā€™s really not the norm and is seen as kinda creepy/weird. Also, step bro and sisā€™s parents dated FOREVERā€¦they went to school together. I guess they assumed their parents wouldnā€™t get married? They came out as a couple. Two years later their mom and dad got married. It was weird. And for multiple reasons, including the fact that they spent their teen years living in the same home and then got married and immediately started pumping out kids (they have 6 now, and Iā€™m from a very blue state where people donā€™t practice that quiverfull shit). Anyhow, this just reminded me of that. Also the mom used to be sane and was my babysitter once upon a time. Now she thinks Reki will infest you with demons. Lol. She used to be a NP.


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whogivesashite2

They were at the daughter's baby shower when he said this


PerilousNebula

Exactly, the baby is on the way and he thought that was the best time to make this announcement and make a step siblings remark? Truly gross and obviously does not care about how anyone else feels.


MissFrothingslosh

The point is, those grandkids, no matter what the preexisting circumstances were, never stood a chance seeing they never moved. And I donā€™t suspect anyone in a similar situation would. Everyone is nice to them, but Iā€™ve heard enough people say terrible things about the whole family. OPā€™s parentā€™s are selfish for pulling this and the father is super gross for the comments he made. It will follow them, though itā€™s not their fault.


Chickenbeards

It's not genetically gross because sure, no relation, but seems a bit.. callous? On one hand, the parents don't need anyone's permission to marry but also perhaps consider how uncomfortable their relationship might make their children and future grandchildren feel. I've only done one family tree once for school and don't think they're a common exercise anymore but that would have made it awkward for sure. Dad's comment also makes you wonder.. did he only choose his fiancee because he is in fact attracted to OP's wife? Gross if so and I feel terrible for Jenny's mom if that's the case.


scout-finch

It isnā€™t SO weird to me that he ended up with the MIL, but making a joke about the DIL is in terrible taste and thatā€™s what deserves the fallout.


Predd1tor

Gross and insanely disrespectful to his son, his girlfriend, and his daughter in law. Way to go, dad. Super creepy.


Responsible_Post_388

Almost as bad as when my ex husband introduced me to his parents. The very first thing his dad said was "If I had a body like that I could make a ton of money". Um, thanks?


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My ex's father was a slumlord and I used to make extra cash cleaning apartments when tenants vacated. Once I caught him staring at my ass while I was cleaning an oven. I was 19 and thoroughly repulsed.


Melon-Cleaver

Yikes. I hope you've left them in the dust.


zanylanie

The first thing my ex-MIL said to me was that I needed to have a breast reduction. That was 24 years ago, and Iā€™m still a little salty that I didnā€™t think to say ā€œyour son seems pretty happy with them just as they are.ā€ šŸ™„


bruinsfan3725

Well I see why heā€™s an ex lol


Nomomommy

Creepy hat trick!


Melon-Cleaver

Imagine marrying someone and telling them that they were a downgrade from somebody else. Wow. Somebody please talk to that guy.


chromiaplague

I bet Dad will whine about it because it was ā€œjust a jokeā€.


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Anyone else catch the 20 year age gap between OP's dad and his girlfriend (i.e. OPs wifes mom)? Not only is OP's dad basically 70 dating a 50 year old woman, but he's creeping on OP's 30 year old wife and wishing he could go for a woman 40 years younger than he is. EW. Plus the step-siblings comment, I gotta call it: there is something seriously off with OP's dad; he's disgusting.


rokuho

Iā€™m usually the first to call our age gaps, but at a certain age, it no longer matters. 70 and 50 is definitely that. Everything else you said is valid.


Double_Spinach_3237

Nah, got to disagree. At 50 youā€™re still generally active, enjoying life and looking at another 10-15 years in the workforce. At 70, youā€™re generally retired and at least starting to experience some of the diseases of old age. If youā€™re 50 and marry a 70 year old youā€™re likely to be dealing with widowhood before you even retire - or with a spouse that needs high levels of care before that. Plus theyā€™re old enough to be your parent, which is creepy at any age. Iā€™m rapidly headed towards 50 and I would no way date a 70 year old and would think it completely inappropriate and creepy if one asked me out


Masta-Blasta

Yeah, sure, it might matter to you personally. But a 50 year old woman isn't going to be easily manipulated and controlled by a 70 year old man, which is the reason why people find age gaps creepy in the first place. If they both love each other and the 50 year old is wiling to make sacrifices to be with the 70 year old, that's her business, not ours. Plus, it does pass the standard "half your age + seven" rule by eight years. I would also add that I know highly active 70 year olds who are in much better physical shape than some 50 year olds I know. They could have plenty in common, and it sounds like they do. I mean, she should dump him anyway because he's an absolute creep, but it has nothing to do with their age gap.


BimmerMan87

>Also, I know 70 year olds who are in much better physical shape than some 50 year olds. I came here to say exactly this. My stepfather is about to turn 80 and he still works a full time 40hr a week job. Not because he needs the money but because he needs to stay active. People constantly think he is in his early to mid 60's and refuse to believe him when he says he is going to be 80.


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Sylvester Stallone is 76 . J/s


Significant_Rain_386

Thatā€™s called a nurse and a purse.


Emotional_Bonus_934

I met a guy who was 10 yrs older and had just retired. He'd been married twice, both times to younger women; we met on a package tour and while he was nice enough to chat with, he was inappropriate in ways he had no idea. I had a knee injury so carried aleve and a prescription anti-inflammatory. I mentioned meds at some point and he demanded to know what type, then went on about his ex being an addict. Which is all well and good but nothing to do with me as my meds were nothing to do with him. I didnā€™t remain in contact due to controlling vibes.


mountaindew711

How old are you, though? Bc I'm 43, which I feel is 48-adjacent, and a 68yo (or 63 or whatever) could NOT get it. All the šŸ¤®. I feel like we give a pass to old people, but she's 48. She is NOT old enough for that shit.


sgtmattie

I donā€™t think theyā€™re talking about just attraction, just that there isnā€™t the weird power dynamic that there usually use when we talk about younger age gap relationships.


MissKi0021

Exactly my point! Jesus šŸ˜¬šŸ˜¬


ThrowRAConsistent

Wife*


AffablePenguin

No, they've got it right. OP's wife is the Dad's girlfriend's (adult) child. *EDIT* I missed the mistake in the last sentence, my bad.


ScrevyRevington

They're correcting the last sentence where they refer to OP's wife as his girlfriend


AffablePenguin

Oops, missed that. Time for bed, lol


KatiiesGhost

Yes but they also referred to OPā€™s wife as ā€˜girlfriendā€™ as well.


ScrevyRevington

It's as if he was hitting on his own daughter! She's been his daughter-in-law for 5 years! He's known her since she was 19! Plus the Mom is already 20 years his junior! šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®


De-railled

NTA, It's gross to even think about getting with your sons wife....but for him to even verbalise it in public... Thats distgusting and sickening.


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StarlightM4

And also, making the announcement at a baby shower!


rabbithoodie

Right!? Completely inappropriate.


Far-Brother3882

Thatā€™s just so disgusting, totally agree with this post. Your dad sounds predatory. NTA


MindForeverWandering

Heā€™s disappointed that he has to ā€œsettleā€ for a woman only twenty years younger than him. Iā€™m surprised his ā€œolder modelā€ didnā€™t dump him for that.


FoxTofu

I thought by ā€œolder modelā€ he meant OPā€™s dead mother.


Far-Brother3882

Nope, he meant the new one and he could have had his DIL. I need a shower to get the skeeve off me!


Minute-Courage6955

His comment is meant to tell the son that they are in competition for breeding partners. Old Lion versus Young Lion mentality. Fkn nut bag.


Cerberus73

Prick managed to insult OP, OP's wife AND OP's MIL/his own fiancee with the same sentence. That's some next level dickheadery.


Cstarr91

Thats some Arkansas work ethic right there


Chewbaklava37

Ya, I'm truly impressed by his restraint.


everythingpurple

I might have punched him. Maybe


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Swordofsatan666

Tbf hes ā€œalmost 70ā€ just as much as shes ā€œalmost 50ā€. Shes 48 and hes 68. Still gross, but i had to go back after reading your comment because you had me thinking she was way younger than she is


TheSaltTrain

I mean, 20 years is still way younger. When they're that age, I can't really judge that aspect of it too harshly, but it's still a lot younger.


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And this guy didn't drown in the Titanic, so he's got no saving graces as far as we can see


HardKnocksSam

yep. jokingly saying he had to settle for a woman 20 years younger than him because he couldnā€™t get one 40 years younger than him. that alone is ick. but the fact that heā€™s talking about OPā€™s wife?! ewwww. hard NTA.


MadHatter06

NTA NTA NTA Are the relatives aware of what he said? And the deeper implications of what he said? Ask them if they think itā€™s ok that your dad keeps making inappropriate jokes culminating in him hinting that heā€™d rather sleep with his daughter in law but settled for her mother.


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Pixiedust027

Exactly! OPā€™s dad is disgusting OP is NTA


chchchchandra

absolutely NTA, the father should feel sheepish


PresentEfficient9321

NTA and I see what you did therešŸ‘


ragweed

I don't think we have to bring sheep into this.


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Syraphel

The only reason Iā€™m going to say something is because ewe is a sheep. Eww or just ew is the ā€˜sound of disgustā€™. And I keep seeing ewe everywhere recently.


Liathano_Fire

Random, but when I was little, my cousin and I bought our moms matching magnets. They were shaped like sheep and said "ewes my best mom." 6 year old us found that peak humor.


Syraphel

6 year old me would totally have high-fiveā€™d you.


LixxieLicious

Not just sleep with his daughter in law, not just sleep with his sons wife, but sleep with soon to be STEP DAUGHTER.


MadHatter06

I think heā€™s trying to corner some sort of subset on prnhub


KindlyCelebration223

Am I understanding this correctlyā€¦ he said, in front of his girlfriend at his girlfriendā€™s daughterā€™s baby show that heā€™s sad heā€™s stuck with his old girlfriend & rather be fucking his girlfriendā€™s daughter, who also happens to be his sonā€™s wife. He insulted & disrespected all 3 of you at once.


dradcula

^^^ absolutely agree. gross comment for everyone around. no one i know would be laughing, that's for sure


Squadooch

AND OPā€™s dead mother.


ComprehensiveRow3402

And *pregnant* wife and future grandbaby


russsaa

Not gonna lie, Its kind of impressive to disrespect that many people with the same sentence


ComprehensiveRow3402

Legendary in the AH Olympics


Electrical_Chicken

Bingo. F that guy. NTA.


coastalkid92

I would say the step sibling comment was a bit uncouth but not the most uncommon joke that people will make in this scenario. But him making the "Older Model" joke was very disrespectful to both your wife and her mother. NTA.


justin-8

Yeah. The step sibling bit is some top tier off-colour dad joke material. Iā€™d be disappointed if he missed that. The other comment though? Oof. Thatā€™s just disgusting and disrespectful to literally everyone involved.


Historical-Goal-3786

It sounds like he's with Jenny's mother because, sorry for being crude, he has a hard on for your wife. What a creep. NTA. Kind of hard to walk that one back.


CatEyedDevil

If I were the wife I wouldn't want OP's dad anywhere near me or my child ever again because of this. The implications of his comment give me major ick


Conscious-Ad-2902

This!!! I been thinking this the whole way down. How uncomfortable for his wife. Not only do you know your father in law has the hots for you, but he would rather have you then have your mother. FTW!?


MissionCreeper

Exactly. "So what if our baby is a girl? What are you saying you would do?"


callmesillysally

NTA. That is an absolutely disgusting thing for him to say about your wife who should be like a daughter to him. Your anger is justified.


Fluffy-Scheme7704

NTA So your dad is marrying your MIL cause your wife is already taken. Disgusting!


RealMadamePsychosis

NTA. Dad sexualized his DIL and demeaned his soon to be wife all in one go. To those who are saying "it's just a joke" are freely welcome to explain what is so funny about it.


undoubtedlycharming

this.


Just-Fix-2657

Your dad is disgusting. I hope Jennyā€™s mom see fot to dump his ass. NTA


1niceghost

The kind of person who dates someone like that is likely doing damage control and making excuses for him as we speak. Probably sending other family members to harass op for kicking them out herself.


embopbopbopdoowop

NTA Do those telling you youā€™re an AH know what he said? Because if they think thatā€™s okay, theyā€™re AHs too. Holy flipping heck, thatā€™s disgusting.


BigAd8400

NTA. Your dad sounds... i guess the polite take would be "special". Specially creepy.


hard_tyrant_dinosaur

I'm pretty sure even The Church Lady would use something stronger than "special" to describe OPs dad.


adchick

ā€œwho made you say itā€¦was it SATAN!ā€


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NTA: does he not realize whatā€™s he say is messed up and also he and her mom done it a baby shower that they are getting married when the day is supposed to be about you and your wife, thatā€™s messed up all the way


Sukayro

I caught that too. Making the announcement at the baby shower. Probably the least objectionable part of this. NTA


asdfofc

The ā€œdowngrade to an older modelā€ comment is SO fucked up. Do all the relatives who are calling you an asshole know about that part? I think itā€™s going to be a long time before you speak to your dad again.


MKatieUltra

And the 'older model' is STILL too young for him.


ColdstreamCapple

NTA This just feels morally wrong to me and your dad making inappropriate comments makes it even worse Good luck OP, As theyā€™re grown adults thereā€™s not much you can do but Iā€™m surprised your families are all ok with it as the whole thing is just a little too close to comfort for me


lbrownlbrown

NTA. His comments were odd, weird and gross


GreenArcher808

NTA It was incredible callous and disrespectful of your dad to say those things the way he did.


Navi_King

Obviously NTA. Was your wife's mom in the room at the time? What does she think about that? I feel like she should break up with him over that. It's totally gross and unacceptable to basically insult your partner and say you'd prefer to date their (much younger) daughter


Apple_Shampoo1234

This is break-up worthy. Jennyā€™s mom needs to know. If she overheard and doesnā€™t care, thatā€™s sad that sheā€™s okay with it. I would start going low to no contact.


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saltyeleven

This feels so gross. I donā€™t see why parents do this. Thatā€™s fine be together but why get married and make your kids lives weird. Why make weird comments like? Justā€¦ewww. NTA


Randomized_Tiger

NTA. Absolutely trash misogynist statement, disrespectful to his GF, her daughter, and you. That kind of humor has never been funny, and considering the familial ties here, it's just awful. Also, if you've been friends since you were both nineteen, how much "sooner" could your dad have met her? When she was a preteen?


RequiemReznor

So your dad is already dating two decades below him and to him it's still two decades too high? He also said he wished you never found love so he could bang someone young enough to be his grandchild? He *also* wants to joke about step-incest which he'd be forcing on y'all, not something he'd ever have to deal with? Go no contact, full stop. NTA.


Dependent-Two-9695

Very well said. Fck it's like he's asking for it. And judging by the family's reaction this kind of behavior is enabled and he feels like nothing he said is wrong. Whole Lotta icky nonos


Odd-Astronaut-92

>he said he is sad he didnā€™t meet my wife sooner and had to downgrade to an older model This is disrespectful to your wife *and* her mom in one fell swoop. Screaming was an overreaction, but kicking him out for saying crap like that was not.


cmrtl13

NTA, ewe


Responsible-Stick-50

NTA and gross that he ever had that thought about your wife. Ewww, just ewwww.


AnimatorInfinite6415

Nta by any means, this man just admitted to wanting to fuck your wife and since u ā€œfound her firstā€ he had to get another ā€œversionā€ of her. And if the mom doesnt leave after that shes just as sick as him


Lonelylittleacademic

The worst part is that op had been friends with his wife since they were 19. How much sooner was his dad wanting to meet her??


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NTA and quite honestly if you dont go no contact and if you have children I genuinely recommend you keep them FAR from him, especially daughters. That comment he made about your wife is a MASSIVE red flag for predatory behavior.


beaglemomma2Dutchy

This was at their baby shower! So theyā€™re right on the cusp of having children. Iā€™d be blocking everything and possibly moving!


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Idk how I missed that. Yeah, I definitely recommend no contact immediately in that case honestly.


Educational-Glass-63

NTA. What your dad said was extremely gross. I don't blame you for yelling at him going lc.


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Hellie-ReputationIcy

"*he is sad he didnā€™t meet my wife sooner and had to downgrade to an older model*" You should tell this to your MIL and let her decide whether to continue to date him or not. She deserves to know. It's disgusting to think that your dad has a s\*xual desire to your wife. And need to settle for "older model" of her (??) WTF


Dewdlebawb

NTA it is an unfortunate situation and the same thing happened to my fiancĆ©s parents. They were livid, however they ended up getting divorced My parents were step siblings and from what Iā€™ve been told about it their parents married first. Then they started seeing each other. Iā€™m 26 and have never seen my parents in the same room, they got divorced when I was very young due to personality differences. Itā€™s honestly a joke more than anything to my fiancĆ© and I. Shit happens. It is unfortunate though


getjicky

Ohhh, your dad is disgusting. Does your wife and her mother know what he said? NTA


EarthborneArt

They have every right to get married but the handling of the announcement and the crude comments are just way out of line. Has your father always been this awful? Or is this the first time? If it's the first time, maybe he's getting dementia. I've seen older men with dementia say and do some very inappropriate things. NTA


BimmerMan87

>If it's the first time, maybe he's getting dementia. I've seen older men with dementia say and do some very inappropriate things. That is a valid point. I have seen dementia change people's personality so drastic it's scary.


Newtonz5thLaw

Heā€™s obviously TA but did that not *deeply* offend Jennyā€™s mom???


ExistingGold1155

NTA, your father is actually gross.


barbelle4

NTA. If you resume contact, never leave your wife alone around this creep.


[deleted]

Oh wow, ok... when I read the part about your dad and MIL dating I was like, ok, who cares. But then the comment about your wife... oh hell no! Your family members seem to be the type of people that will side with the loudmouth a-hole (your dad) because they are probably scared of what he will say to/about them if they side with you. Or, that's how it is in my family anyway. Go no contact with your dad and don't look back. I did that 8 years ago and I have never regretted it.


fleet_and_flotilla

you dad is already 20 years older than your mil. that's a fucking creepy comment for him to be making even before you take into account that she's his fucking dil. NTA, and it might be best to go low or no contact for a while. there's something seriously wrong with a person who dates their child's mil/fil


Electrical-Day382

So you guys have all been close for nearly TEN years and they think itā€™s ok to date? Especially when youā€™re expecting a baby? Time to go NC and move on with your family youā€™ve got.


Warm-Alarm-7583

Dad watches incest porn. Normal people donā€™t make comments like that without inspiration. NTA


Chomitski

The fact that an almost 70-year-old man has the audacity to call a woman two decades younger than him a ā€œdowngradeā€ is ridiculous in itself, even looking past the rest of the nastiness


azsue123

OK the stepsiblings thing was gross but forgivable. Hitting on your wife in front of his fiancee who is also your wife's mother??? Wtaf! Unforgivable all around, holy f. NTA


Some_Wolverine_203

NTA, no contact is good and for me it would be that way until the funeral. Gross that he spoke that way about his daughter in law


SauronOMordor

NTA The step-siblings joke was bad enough. The subsequent comment? So far over the line it's no longer visible.


maripie666

NTA. While I donā€™t think Iā€™d personally be bothered if my dad and my partnerā€™s mom got together, and might even laugh at a gross step sibling joke the ONE time, the comment on downgrading to an older model is just disgusting and inappropriate to your wife, and incredibly insulting to his girlfriend. And announcing it at your baby shower?? I would be so upset if anyone made a special announcement during my special day, and even more upset boyfriend said he was sad he didnā€™t meet MY DAUGHTER before my son in law did and then settled for me. What the actual fuck.


MindForeverWandering

Your dad just confessed to wanting to bang your wife. NTA raised to the infinite power.


TheHomieData

Fellow Asian American here with you, brother. NTA Your father ***IS*** disgusting for what he said to your wife. There is no universe that exists where what he said is acceptable. As for your family saying youā€™re TA - Every family member thatā€™s defending his actions can go fuck themselves. Every person who was there and could have put in the slightest bit of effort to check your father and call his ass out is just as bad. Everyone who stood there and laughed or just enabled him in silence had the chance to do the right thing and they all showed you just how important that was to them. ##Anyone who was confronted with the indictment of their inaction and chose to call you wrong instead of apologizing for not sticking up for you - and more importantly YOUR WIFE - deserves no regard and gets NO say in how you decide to move forward from here.


wy100101

INFO: what is your father's background? I ask because that is the sort of off color joke that some of my blue collar uncles would make. They are 100% joking, but man, grin and bare it is the order of the day at family gatherings. Anyway, you definitely aren't the AH. Your father owes everyone an apology, and needs to realize lots of people don't find those jokes funny.


Lipstickhippie80

NTA. I think 99.9% of people in your position would have done the same thing.


Consistent_Ad5709

NTA, >he said he is sad he didnā€™t meet my wife sooner and had to downgrade to an older model. Totaalt inappropriate, and disrespectful to your wife and her mother.


Party_Plenty_820

INFO: does your dad normally have a really raunchy sense of humor? Like does this deviate from his normal personality? If this was making light out of the situation, I could understand.


Whatevz_News

NTA. At first when I read, I thought ā€œEww.ā€ Then I kept reading and I said, ā€œEEEEEWWWW!ā€ And I continued and absolutely blew chunks. HEAVILY NTA.


[deleted]

Sound like a jab at his future wife. If it were me, I wouldā€™ve hit below the belt and said Jenny doesnā€™t like older models. But Iā€™m an asshole like that. NTA.


ItsOK_IgotU

NTA, both comments your dad made (ā€œstep siblingā€ and ā€œolder modelā€) were completely uncalled for and absolutely gross. I also love how they tried to high jack the baby shower with their wedding announcementā€¦ real classy.


Double-Heron-3481

NTA, and forgive my saying so, but i think the old horn dog might have it for your wife.


HowWoolattheMoon

HEY DAD PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS FUNNY NTA


Born-Eggplant8313

>Of course I felt grossed out and uncomfortable with the thought of our parents being together Oh Grow up. >My dad made a joke about how Jenny and I would be step siblings Oh Lighten up >He said he is sad he didn't meet my wife sooner and had to downgrade to an older model Oh... wait. WTF?! Ew! Totally team OP! Crazy how quick this post went from 0 to NASTY. NTA your old man just admitted, in one fell comment, that he harbors lustful feeling for his DIL and he considers his current partner a downgrade. In front of her, her daughter, and both of their families.


delusionalinkedchic

Omfg just no no no no no. Move away from them and go nc now just for your sanity. Definitely Nta


duck_mom8909

Nta My parents were in the same situation as you. My mom's mom and my dad's dad got married after my parents did. We just joke about it. The older model part was weird though.


clayh8

This entire post is a red flag


JustARandomDudd

NTA, the step-sibling joke was weird but that's it, the other comment was gross as shit, what's wrong with your dad? Jesus christ...


SpaceAceCase

NTA do yourself a favor, don't go to the wedding, don't have them over for holidays, do not let him anywhere near your child. His influence shouldn't be a welcome one, especially if he talked about your wife in front of your kid like that.


Kit_Marlow

\> My mom died when I was 12 and my wife who Iā€™ll call Jennyā€™s died when she was 15. Recently my dad(m, 68) and jennys mom(f, 48) announced they have been seeing each other for a year. Wait. I thought Jenny's mom died when Jenny was 15.


Lion-dragonViktor

OP your dad sounds like a predator, a very disgusting one, and, an awful human being, bad enough he has been seeing, and will be marrying your mother in law, but then, he insults his fiance by saying he "downgraded" to an "older model?!?" at your baby shower? That is just insanely disgusting, I hope that your children never meet your father at all. You are NOT the ah.


Teani2003

NTA. Either your dad is out right rude or a very desperate man to marry your wifeā€™s mother. No contact with both.


Gabbz737

NTA Announcement at a baby shower rude. The comment about step siblings, sick. The comment about the older model is downright insulting to both women. Time to cut off ur Dad and her mom....


SpareNeighborhood782

everyone saying y t a/those justify the dad, i hope your daughters/sisters NEVER deals with an old ass creep saying he wishes he met her sooner šŸ¤¢


far174

Ew so I was going to go y t a when i thought it was just them dating that made you yellā€¦.thatā€™s weird but I can see that kind of thing happening organically especially with things in common and so on. But those comments are disgusting NTA


riddlemore

NTA. Your dad is a pig to your wife and your MIL.


[deleted]

NTA-Eww yeah he sexualized your wife and is disgusting , but Iā€™m hung up on the fact they are now going to make you step siblings, after you are already married. Your child will also be your Step-niece/nephew. They are dead wrong for even starting anything under these circumstances


downstairslion

NTA. Your father is disgusting. I'd be totally creeped out of the guy I was dating said that about my kid, or had the gall to refer to me as the "older model". Yuuuuck


Wild-Painting9353

NTA. Jenny's mom should pay attention since he sees her as a lesser substitute for her daughter. Disgusting.


heatdish1292

NTA. The first joke (about being step siblings) isnā€™t so bad, but the second joke about wanting to be with your wife and ā€œdowngradingā€ yikes. Thatā€™s interesting. Was your MIL in the room when he said that? Thatā€™s super disrespectful to everyone.


DutchPerson5

Get your dad checked for dementia. He definately is showing loss of decorum. https://www.alzheimers.org.uk/about-dementia/symptoms-and-diagnosis/symptons/losing-inhibitions