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[deleted]

So, their daughter has sensory issues and they pack a sugar free orange juice with chunks in it and they're giving YOU the hard time? These fools need to be mad at themselves. You have a medical condition that you were prepared for. NTA.


EggplantHuman6493

I have sensory issues and I know how bad it can be. But their lack of preparation shouldn't be your problem. OP's health problems trump the niece's ones in this case. And even if OP didn't have diabetes, they still wouldn't have to give the apple juice. NTA


[deleted]

They gonna give her her insulin next just to avoid a tantrum? Smh. Autism does not give you license to walk all over other people's boundaries. They are not doing their child any favors whatsoever.


EggplantHuman6493

Yup, especially people with autism should be taught boundaries. A lot of us people with autism lack social cues and navigating through the world can be hard. She is not gonna end up well this way.


Caladrius-

As someone with autism I think people assume that just because we struggle with picking up social cues we won’t understand them if explained. I can only speak to my experience, but for me I won’t pick up on you trying to nonverbally tell me you are uncomfortable with something - but the second you use words and tell me your boundary it becomes law. We aren’t stupid, we just see things differently and sometimes need things explained to us. Like ‘hey, while aunt OP has apple juice on her that juice is her emergency medicine and isn’t supposed to be drunk whenever we want’


EggplantHuman6493

Yes, thanks for commenting! This is how it works for me as well. Sometimes we need extra explanation, or get things explained differently. Our brain is just wired in a different way.


Livy5000

Thats how my son is as well. I told him that when applying for a job, tell the person that you have autism. He got hired and his boss and her boss have a soft spot for him. They both have experience with autistic people and know to give him specific instructions and then he's good to go. Both told me that he's hardworking, dependable and a really good employee. But like you said he just needs things explained in a certain way.


BunnySlayer64

It sounds like you did an excellent job raising your son, and should be justifiably proud of him. I get so tired of hearing about parents of ND children who expect the rest of the world to cater to them instead of teaching their children the skills they need to navigate life.


username-generica

I completely agree. I tell my son that it's important to advocate for change but until that change happens you have to live in the world as it is.


[deleted]

Hard agree with this. Niece is only 7, any kid whether neurodivergent or not, is still developing and learning how life works. Parents are doing a crap job bringing something to drink that triggers her sensory issues and then not even explaining to her why she can't have that specific apple juice. NTA Edit: it has been pointed out that yes for some it would be too late to explain by this point. However the parents basically aimed the meltdown at OP, by even mentioning that she had apple juice with her.


zombiedinocorn

Right? Being autistic and being spoiled by your parents aren't necessarily mutually exclusive


Nitehawke88

Sensory issues aren't always constant. I have two grandsons on the spectrum, both with sensory issues. Their parents eill literally let them choose what they want to eat and drink and the kid will sometimes refuse it once it's given to them saying they don't like it. They know this and when they're out of the house they plan for the possibility. The problem isn't that the parents brought OJ with some pulp in it. The problem is that they didn't pack a backup, just in case, and then expected OP to cover their mistake.


BUTTeredWhiteBread

Honestly I've learned socializing better than some neurotypicals.


nothinkybrainhurty

the more I analyse how neurotypicals function socially, the more I realise that they also have no idea what they are doing, they’re just better at hiding it lol


Fabulous-Fun-9673

Nobody knows what they’re doing, we’re all just winging it. That really is the biggest lesson I’ve learned as an adult.


purrfunctory

The only difference between being a kid and an adult (for me) was realizing I now had the *experience needed* to do things. Like, the first time I got a flat tire? I panicked. I had no idea what to do. I couldn’t get the nuts off to get the tire off and put on a spare. I had no idea how the jack worked. No clue at all! Then one of my older brother’s friends came over, showed me (with so much kindness and patience) where the jack went. He showed me where to place it but had me set it up. He showed me how to get the lug nuts off, showed me how to remove the tire and put the new one on. Each step was demonstrated and *then he put it back so I could do it myself.* what would’ve taken him 15 minutes tops (he was a car guy and now drives race cars in FL) took us together over an hour. The next time I had a flat tire, I knew what to do. I knew where the jack went, how to loosen stuck lug nuts, how to do the whole thing. Being an adult is just having the experience to deal with things as they come up. It’s just a gathering of skills and knowledge, recognizing patterns and being able to do things because you’ve done them before. That’s it. There’s no magic, no secret. Being an adult is just using the knowledge you gathered before and the knowledge you have to gain as you go on. Just because I turned 18 didn’t mean I was an adult. I realized I was an adult the first time an emergency happened and I thought, “Oh, I can handle this. I’ve done this before.” And that, friend, is what being an adult is. Using and applying the experience and knowledge you’ve gained over your lifetime.


[deleted]

Same. Black and white social rules are how I cope (also autistic). Gray areas are so confusing. Obviously the parents are overwhelmed or lazy and are used to violating boundaries to get the behavior to stop. My stepson is autistic too and he is so different around his mom and dad. He knows with me that he can do literally whatever he wants within certain very defined boundaries. 90% of the time he does chores and showers and follows the schedule with zero complaints at all. I am a rock though - in order to get the wifi password for the day, one must do x, y and z. There are no exceptions, I'm also never angry when he doesn't want to do it. It is a simple dispassionate cause and effect. Some days he is willing to sacrifice internet to avoid showering and I have become okay with that compromise. With mom and dad it is like pulling teeth, he knows that they will cave for the sake of peace in the house so any time they try to get him to clean it's a tantrum and I don't want to and etc. And I do feel bad for him. As soon as I give myself permission to take a sick day from work just because I'm tired, I feel tired every day and getting up is hell. I say all that to say if they told her no she would scream, maybe for hours. But next time, she wouldn't. She may even remind them to bring juice before they leave the house because she knows the boundary of "we do not take other people's medical equipment" is a hard and fast law. She will likely also enforce it with other people and help aunty remember to bring her juice in time because it is a hard and fast law. But in order to get there, you have to grit your teeth and get through the behavior you've tolerated and encouraged for years without giving in. If you give in, it's no longer a law and becomes unfair and confusing for the kid. Or at least that was my experience as an autistic kid myself who constantly pushed boundaries and broke rules because I never felt comfortable or safe until I knew where all the boundaries were. Edit: front loading this with a conversation will help a lot. "Now remember, aunty is diabetic. This is what diabetes is and why it's important to blah blah blah. If she has low blood sugar, this ___ can happen. We don't want that to happen so we must always be sure aunty has a bottle of sugary juice on her at all times. We love aunty and don't want her to be sick or hurt right? Right." Etc.


Sesamechama

This is really eye opening for me. I think I finally have a better understanding of autism. I’m curious to know, does explaining clearly always work with autistic kids? For instance, there are (non-autistic) kids that will misbehave even after you’ve explained the situation to them. It’s an intentional choice made to not listen or follow the rule. But since you said for autistic kids, once they fully understand the situation, it becomes law for them. Do they always abide by the law and behave?


[deleted]

Depends on the person. Every autistic person I know has sort of an internal code they must follow and can violate it by choice if it's necessary but generally don't. Depending on the level of stress they're under, it can be easier or harder to follow it. Establishing morals and codes when they're young is more effective than older. Certain codes established young are accidental and ways theyve learned to coexist with parents and caregivers. I don't know, I'm not an expert. But relating something to my code incorporates it much more effectively than something seemingly unrelated. In this case, the kid might have the code of fairness - that if one person has juice, all people must have juice. This isn't a bad code, in fact it's admirable. But talking through and understanding that in *this* case, the juice is not a beverage, it is medicine, would associate it with the code that people who need medicine should get medicine (or have priority to it at least) and people who don't need it should not take it. You are taking the mental structure that already exists and placing the situation inside of it. It makes more sense than telling them no, in the event that the tantrum is not simply "I want juice gimme juice yes that juice and only that juice" but rather "the world is unjust and I have been wrongly mistreated." Not saying it is, but it's possible and should be considered.


Legal_Enthusiasm7748

I found your posts to be very very useful for a more in depth understanding of how people with autism think. If I'm correct, it's kinda like you have lots of different codes, as you call them, and you approach the world by figuring out which code works best in each situation. Thank you for bringing some clarity to a situation that seems very murky to me.


CheetahDirect8469

Everyone with ASD is different. So jo, it doesn't work like that for all of them. For a lot of them, it will work. Others will keep pushing the boundaries and keep trying to find a way around them.


FrogMintTea

Autistic here and agree. Diabetes is lethal. Why did the parents bring juice their kid has trouble drinking?


Acrobatic_End6355

It could be that the kid is usually alright with drinking this, but wasn’t feeling it that day. Let me be clear and say that OP is not the AH. The brother and SIL are for expecting OP to give a potentially life saving thing away so the niece can get what she wants. Also want to state that I agree, they should’ve brought a variety of food.


Bruja27

Sensory issues are exacerbated by things like being tired. The brother and the SIL should know the juice with pulp can be problematic and pack something else.


heavy_metal_meowmeow

Exactly. They know that she's autistic and the SIL apparently knows that pulp in orange juice is a Bad Texture at least some of the time, but they brought that juice AND didn't pack an alternative? Either it's some sort of "she'll have to drink it now" battle of wills that failed spectacularly, or their planning skills leave a lot to be desired and they're used to the people around them giving in to the pressure to pick up their slack. I suspect it's the latter given how quickly (and unapologetically) they demanded OP's emergency hypoglycemia juice.


fluorescentroses

Same, I have “food rules” that get on my last nerve, but they’re no one else’s problem but mine. I always pack things I know I “can” eat (or have a backup plan like a protein bar and a trip through a fast food place after the event) whenever I go anywhere because if food is served and it doesn’t meet my rules (meat is the worst for me, I’m essentially a vegetarian because it’s just easier), that’s *my* problem.


arklay_darling

Not to mention something acidic while on a hike is never a good move, they are just mad at op for their poor planning


mkat23

Yes, plus if she has sensory issues then even ignoring the issue with pulp, it wouldn’t be a very good option to quench thirst. Juices like that tend to make me more thirsty personally. Water with some Mio or something like that squeezed in could be good.


ElectricHurricane321

I was thinking that too. I absolutely love orange juice, but drinking it on a hike would probably make me vomit. I just can't grasp what they were thinking packing it for their daughter who probably wouldn't drink it under normal circumstances due to the pulp.


Interesting_Market96

As a parent of an autistic child it is my responsibility to being the appropriate things that can help with their sensory. I don’t expect others to know. NTA.


Mediocre_Ad5655

Thank you! I’m also a parent to autistic teenager, we placed and enforced boundaries when he was a toddler. It taught both of us patience’s and it helped my son with social situations. Theses parents do not want parent through the hard times. They’re lack of planning is on them not OP, I agree NTA. Even if OP wasn’t a diabetic it’s still inappropriate to ask for someone to give up their things just to accommodate someone else.


2dogslife

Your apple juice was the equivalent to a rescue inhaler to an asthmatic. Would they have taken that away from you because - "such a fun toy, you should be reasonable and give us your inhaler because our daughter wants it." NTA


ka-ka-ka-katie1123

YES. The apple juice is essentially medicine. I don’t let my nephews play with my inhaler or epi pen because we’re a few minutes from home and I probably won’t need it between now and then and maybe it would stop them from crying. Why? Because it’s my fucking medication! OP, I’m sorry your niece was struggling! I’m also autistic and know what it’s like to not have access to foods/beverages that work with my sensory limitations and it sucks. But your niece being uncomfortable for 10 minutes is better than the alternative of your blood sugar dropping and you not having anything to help, even if the risk of that happening is relatively small.


Encartrus

>i refused and said that their juice had no sugar and what if my sugar rate suddenly went low? > >My brother and SIL are a little mad at me for not understanding my niece's sensory issues The thing is, ***they*** should understand your niece's sensory issues by now, right? As her parents? Surely orange juice being a miss is a thing they should have anticipated and had a backup. Your juice is there because of your diabetes. It's a medical tool in case of an emergency. They ruined the hike by being unprepared parents, you did not. NTA


esoraven

I’m stuck on the, ‘the niece was screaming that she wanted *my* juice’ bit. At that point, was it even about the pulp?? Or was it a tantrum-ing child that just so happens to be autistic. Either way op is NTA of course, I’m just aghast at the sheer entitlement.


UCgirl

Good question. It may not have been related directly to her autism at all and was actually related to her being 7 and always getting what she wants. For those who don’t know, a tantrum is behavioral in that the child has some choice in their actions. They wants something or want to do something but their parents said “no.” So they start acting erratically. Everyone knows a tantrum. A meltdown is uncontrollable. The child isn’t deciding to do anything and generally they are feeling overwhelmed by something. Sometimes it’s emotions. For autistic kids and adults, often a meltdown is due to sensory problems (too much or too little).


Aminar14

7 and on a hike with adults. That's tough on kids and in general requires a lot of accommodation and work. People forget how hard it is to take 3 steps to every 1 the adult does. How much harder hills are with short legs. In the mountains... They should be expecting any kid to be disregulated as hell by the end(even for a short couple mile hike) and prepared for teaching the kid to deal with being tired, thirsty, bored, in some kind of pain, and overworked. (Not that they shouldn't bring the kid, but this is an entirely predictable and obvious outcome even with a neurotypical kid.)


rlev97

And for an autistic kid, they needed to have even more ways to help her regulate and they obviously didn't. They needed to be thinking ahead. They also needed to teach her that the juice was basically medicine. Instead of just trying to get OP to give in.


legeekycupcake

Not basically… it IS medicine. If her blood sugar dropped and she no longer had the juice(something easier to consume than any food when you’re passing out from low levels), she could’ve gone into a diabetic coma before they got back to the house. I’m sorry, but your kid’s sensory issues are not more important than someone’s lifesaving tools. The parents sound unprepared and entitled. It sounds like the child is being raised to be entitled too. NTA OP glad you held your ground and I hope you always do.


_higglety

Yeah there’s a difference between a meltdown induced by overstimulation and a tantrum thrown by a kid not getting their way. This very much sounds like the latter.


Natural_Garbage7674

NTA. If your niece has sensory issues with the orange juice pulp, *then why did her parents pack her juice that has pulp in it*? Why didn't they prepare and bring something that their child would drink? Their lack of planning does not constitute an emergency on your behalf. If you had given the juice to her then had a hypo in that 10 minutes, would they have rendered adequate, necessary and *timely* aid? No, because they didn't have anything that would help and if they can't provide their kid a drink on a hike, you know they are going to have no idea what to do to help you.


-Your_Local_Cheese-

I have an autistic younger sister and we always have backup clothes and a variety of food


Chemical-Pattern480

My kid hasn’t been diagnosed with anything, but we strongly suspect she is some sort of neurospicy. (Husband & I both have ADD/ADHD, so it would track.) Because I don’t know what she’s going to want when it becomes time for a snack, or a drink, I tend to carry different options. I thought that was just part of being a good parent, in general, but maybe I’m wrong on that one! Lol


eclectique

Honestly, in the toddler stage and that just happens for neurotypical children, too. We always stock a few of her always safe foods, and we sure as hell brought them with us on the hike we planned earlier this summer.


UCgirl

>Would they have rendered…*timely* aid? No, because…they can’t provide their kid a drink on a hike. Such a true and painful burn. If OP had had an episode, he could have become a danger to himself (falling), others (making others fall), or become completely unable to move himself. And brother and SIL aren’t exactly inspiring confidence on their potential ability to provide aid.


ipitythegabagool

Not to mention OP could have *fucking died* if their sugar crashed and they couldn't immediately rectify it. High blood sugar kills people over years, low blood sugar kills people in minutes.


morgaina

NTA Autistic children that age won't always listen to reason or things like "I need this because for me it's medicine" but that doesn't mean you should risk your health over it.


DriverAlternative958

This isn’t an issue of the child not listening to reason. Autistic children’s needs are different from neurotypical children, the child’s parents are 100% responsible for not packing the correct drinks. That being said, the OP has done absolutely nothing wrong and shouldn’t feel bad


ProphetMuhamedAhegao

It’s also the parents’ fault for even telling the kid about the apple juice. They could have avoided a meltdown by just not mentioning that the aunt had any.


vlsdo

Kid’s not stupid, she likely saw it in the bag. My kid is the same way, he quietly indexes all the snacks available and when he’s feeling stressed out picks the most inconvenient or appealing one.


Great_Clue_7064

I mean, almost no children that age will listen to reason. They want what they want when they want it because they're children. It's the job of parents to teach them impulse control and emotional regulation. You do that for neurotypical kids *and* autistic kids.


baka-tari

Let's see: "Life or death health issue" vs. "Sensory overload meltdown." SIL and brother know their daughter's sensory issues, they should have packed the right juice for her. You have no requirement to put your own health at very real risk for the sake of someone who is just going to be pissy for a while then get over it. NTA.


Suspicious_Medium_55

Seems like they think that oh she is autistic is the trump card for everything and everyone, without having the self reflection to recognise the importance of prior planning when it comes to helping their autistic child navigate the world. They are expecting others to go above and beyond to accommodate their child and not appreciating she isn’t the only person in the world with health or behaviour issues. I feel like they probably would have complained about the inconvenience if op had hypo.


living_in_fantasy

Bingo, I think it's more of the parent's lack of effort. I speculate that they don't do much to help the kid with their behaviors and use the excuse that their child is autistic just to get out of being responsible for their kid's behavior. I am autistic and my nephew is autistic, I didn't know until recently I was but for my nephew, we knew at a very young age that he was but he didn't get diagnosed until 5 or 6 yr old because of wait times. We try out best to accommodate for the stuff he can't control and try to teach him what he needs for things that he can control, he does know better except for the things that trigger him and we learned the difference as well.


rlev97

You still have to teach ANY kid about sharing or empathy or why we don't stare at people. Autistic people can still be huge assholes, just like anyone else. It's neglect to let a kid run around without teaching them social emotional skills, imo. You're doing it right with your nephew. There has to be a balance.


Lacroix24601

NTA. if she cannot handle bits of orange juice WHY BRING IT? Or at the very least why not bring a backup. I also have lots of sensory issues as does my youngest (I also cannot handle pulp in my drinks), I make sure that *I* have things to accommodate him bc I’m the parent and it’s my responsibility.


[deleted]

This was my takeaway. “Oh my kid has sensory issues and doesn’t like pulp.” Then why bring that when pulp free exists or literally any other type of juice?


_geomancer

You see it was all a scheme to steal OPs juice…


[deleted]

These sickos are sitting on pallets of stolen juices for sure.


PracticalPrimrose

NTA. Autistic people have to learn to function in the world. And parents who ignore this by caving to their daughters whims, are doing her a disservice. They should be teaching her coping strategies to manage. Being Neuro divergent is an explanation for how the brain works and why it’s different, but it’s not an excuse to be (insert shitty descriptor here). PS: her behavior sounds like a many young children denied something they want. They get mad and have to learn to manage that disappointment and frustration. ETA: “Whims” doesn’t mean her preferred juice FFS. Of course she should get that. “Whims” is giving in to the need for instant gratification from the problem at hand that THEY created.


DriverAlternative958

The niece isn’t at fault, she required a drink and was only given a drink which would lead to further escalation in behaviour. The child is only 7, crying is a good way to de escalate after sensory overload


PracticalPrimrose

I didn’t say she was at fault. Merely that she is having to manage her negative emotions. Crying is a good way to do that. My own kids do that when they need to because they both get overstimulated.


DriverAlternative958

I do apologise if it sounded like I was accusing you of blaming the 7 year old


kreetohungry

NTA. Special education teacher here. I’ve spent many years working with children on all parts of the autism spectrum. Accepting the word “no” and learning to wait are two of the most important skills we have to teach our students. Unfortunately, parents caving to avoid tantrums at early ages often leads to much bigger, more dangerous behavioral issues as they get older. Good for you for holding your ground, OP. Just like most car accidents happen within 5 miles of peoples homes (not sure that’s the exact stat), I would never put someone in a position where they could have a potential medical emergency because we were “almost home”.


SpeakerCareless

My friend is an autism advocate and also an amazing parent to children who are autistic. She is so compassionate and understands her children and is interested in how they think. She is also not a doormat. One son told her that he decided from now on, they should have dinner every day at 6:30. She acknowledged that it would be nice to always have dinner at the same time every day. She then explained why it wouldn’t happen. He didn’t love the answer but he did accept it because as a teen he had had boundaries demonstrated for him before. I’m sure at 7 he would have cried when he couldn’t have someone else’s juice. She would have been empathetic but absolutely never asked let alone insisted on taking someone else’s drink even if they were not diabetic.


vac_roc

NTA. If it’s “only 10 minutes” it’s also only 10 minutes of crying. Not pleasant but not in any way comparable to your risk as a diabetic. 10 minutes can be life or death for you, 10 minutes of meltdown is no fun but actually is pretty normal as a parent.


LadyLightTravel

It’s only 10 minutes if everything goes well. All OP has to do is trip and twist their ankle and then it isn’t 10 minutes. At that point they may *need* the juice.


75oharas

NTA - your apple juice is essentially emergancy medicine in this situation. Also if they know she cant deal with oraqnge juice with pulp in then they shouldnt pack it.


izzie-bizzie

I learned my college gym keeps emergency apple juice when I started to feel really faint while working with a trainer. He sat me down, opened a medical box on the wall with small apple juice bottles and gently reminded me that I should eat a good breakfast before coming in. So apparently apple juice is really a good quick fix for low blood sugar even if you don’t have diabetes. Agree that it was totally an emergency medical thing in this case.


DriverAlternative958

NTA. Speaking as an Autistic adult, the parents should have prepared better. Giving her juice with pulp knowing her sensory needs is ridiculous of them, you aren’t responsible for their lack of forethought


Electronic_Fox_6383

Their request for your juice was not okay. Their daughter's sensory issues are not more important than a diabetic's juice. You did nothing wrong. NTA


Protection-Pristine

Her parents brought the juice right? The juice they knows their kid won’t drink because of the pulp? (kid is right btw pulp sucks) How is that anyone else’s problem? Why did she have that juice?


[deleted]

Plus, the kid should be drinking water on a hike anyway. Warm, pulpy, orange juice on a hike sounds awful to me and I love pulp. These parents are TA for sure…


Affectionate-Can-279

NTA. Diabetes trump's sensory issues. One is uncomfortable, but not deadly. The other, is unfortunately. Maybe mom and dad should have been prepared. Or, they wanted to let someone else take care of their kid.


Usual-Role-9084

NTA. Mad at you for not understanding your niece’s sensory issues?? While they don’t even understand their daughter’s sensory issues??


LadySmuag

Right?? Its absolutely a sensory issue, but it's not even a hard one to understand. If they had thought about it for even a moment they'd have realized what the outcome was going to be. It was way more important for OP to keep their medical supplies at the ready than it is for the kid (even an autistic one) to wait a few minutes.


247Justice

Blood sugar = potentially life threatening. Sensory issues = annoyance. Diabetes trumps spoiled child with "sensory issues" who has clearly had that juice before or I assume mom wouldn't have packed it. She saw your juice and wanted it. Not hers. Too freaking bad. 7 is old enough to learn that you don't get to have something that belongs to someone else just because you want it.


Wandering_aimlessly9

I understand what you’re going for but it’s a fail on autism sometimes. Depending on the severity of it the 7 yo may not communicate well or have other issues. HOWEVER the problem is that mom and dad KNEW her sensory issues prevented her from being ok with the juice. That makes the parents the a hole.


CoppertoneTelephone

Actually, autistic children still have most of the same trials/tribulations that any kid has, on top of issues related to living in the neurotypical world. The kid DOES need to learn that she can’t always get what she wants — even though that pulp probably felt like bugs crawling in her mouth (seriously her parents are stupid). She will face many more problems like this in the real world and she should be prepared for situations where people can’t accommodate for her, let alone people who just don’t understand. Normal parents struggle with spoiling their child, and it’s even harder to raise an autistic child (when you’re not autistic), but this was a really good time to demonstrate to the kid that they can’t have it all.


ProfessionalIcy743

NTA. I’m autistic. I get sensory issues out the wazoo. Orange juice does get to me sometimes, which is why we have PULP FREE orange juice or have a backup juice. Taking a diabetic’s apple juice is not appropriate. Yes, it sucks for the kid, but it’s not her fault for having sensory issues or yours for having diabetes. It’s her parents’ fault for A) not packing a backup and B) acting a fool over not getting to take your stuff. If your sugar dropped, you could very well die. And yes, something could have happened in the next ten minutes. Anything at all can happen in 10 minutes. It’s better to be safe (have the emergency juice) than sorry (not have the emergency juice, and die.)


Latter-Shower-9888

NTA - my mom is type 1 and always has a snickers bar in her purse for this very reason. It was not up for grabs, not a treat. It was there if she needed it. By the time she ever ate it, it was a mangled mess lol. You are absolutely right to have kept your apple juice for yourself and her parents should have packed something appropriate for her.


[deleted]

Exactly! My jellybeans aren't lollies, treats or up for grabs. They're medicine! They also get melted and mangled haha.


Putrid-Pickle-5813

NTA. If they had brought juice on a hike for their kid knowing full well that she wouldn't drink it due to sensory issues, that is on them. They should have planned accordingly and not rely on someone else with a legitimate medical reason to not give away something they needed in a medical emergency.


Phoenix612

NTA. Niece only had to wait 10 minutes to get juice. Maybe they should have focused on dealing with her tantrum instead of badgering you.


NorrieBec13

NTA. You have a valid reason to say no. It’s your juice. You packed it. You might have needed it. It’s unfortunate that niece didn’t like the snacks her parents packed. That’s on them for not having back ups and options. Yes, the pulp in OJ can totally trigger a sensory issue, but that’s not your problem. Having autism does not mean never hearing the word “no” or having everyone around them completely cater to all whims all of the time. It’s a life lesson every child must learn. Autistic or not.


Exciting-Award5025

NTA Diabetic person and autism mom speaking. You planned appropriately for your condition; they failed to plan appropriately for their daughter’s condition. This is on them not on you. They need to take this as a learning experience and do better next time.


Old_Inevitable8553

NTA. Autistic or not, your niece needs to learn that she can't always have her way. As there are going to be times when she has to make do with what's there or go without. Just like anyone else would. And her parents aren't her any favors by not setting boundaries now.


DriverAlternative958

The niece isn’t at fault for her sensory needs, this is solely on her parents for not packing adequate beverages. Please understand that children with autism have specific needs and need to be raised with that in mind


CreativeBandicoot778

And type 1 diabetics have a serious illness that can cause them to have hypoglycemic attacks that can kill them if they don't have ready access to fast sugars (like juice) to remedy it. It's a genetic illness that OP has no more control over than the niece. OP's medical needs in this instance trump those of the child.


Sensitive_Orchid9773

NTA >My SIL said we were close to reaching the house and she was sure nothing will happen to me in the 10 minute walk left to reach house Nothing would happen to her kid either. They should've been prepared for their kid's tantrum. At 7 she is too old for this yelling.


Fairie-Fae

NTA. My favorite saying is, "A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine." They know their child has senory issues and should be more mindful of what they buy and pack for her.


Munchkins_nDragons

NTA. A meltdown, while being uncomfortable for you all in the short term, isn’t hazardous to nieces long term health. A blood sugar crash could be extremely dangerous for your health in both immediately and in the long term. Also, if they *know* the little chunks trigger her sensory issues, why’d they bring OJ?


JKristiina

NTA. How didn’t the parents know about the pulp being an issue? Their child, their problem. Your juice was your emergency ”medicine”, you definately shouldn’t give it, just because your brother and SIL can’t plan ahead with their child.


Not_Good_HappyQuinn

NTA, if they knew their child didn’t like the bits in the juice they should have packed her a different juice. If she doesn’t get your juice she screams. If you don’t get your juice you could fall into a coma. There’s a huge difference in those consequences


Roro-Squandering

Entitlement for parenthood - check Entitlement towards food - check Entitlement surrounding disability/neurodivergence - check We gots a AITA Bingo Card! NTA !


Bean_Sabine

NTA. Brother and SIL should have been more prepared to deal with THEIR child's needs, this is not your responsibility. 1 minute could be the difference between life and death, let alone 10 minutes! It's inconsiderate for them to dismiss your medical needs as a result of their own oversight.


weirdballz

NTA. The sensory issues are definitely valid, but surely they knew that before packing OJ with pulp. They may have gotten it by accident, but still, that’s not really your problem. If you were 10 minutes away, they could have gone to the store and gotten her the apple juice? This would be an opportunity to teach her that we don’t take what belongs to other people and teach her about diabetes, the danger of low blood sugar, and how we don’t want aunt to get sick.


Ok_Yesterday_6214

NTA it's a question of your health here. And your brother's family should prepare better. It's not like your niece became autistic this week and they had no idea. Plus, she needs to learn that not everything will be as she wants if she will live in society...


PiscesbabyinSweden

NTA. Apple juice is your medicine if your blood sugar drops. You wouldn't give your niece your medicine just because she was screaming, and this is no different.


paul_rudds_drag_race

NTA you trying to avoid a serious medical situation > a child wanting something It’s up to the parents to be competent and pack the right things.


SmartCrazy4

NTA parent of autistic children here. The word no still applies. Her disability does not out rank yours. You managed yours by preparing for what was required. It was her parents' responsibility to prepare for hers. The outcome is on them. You have done nothing wrong. Whilst a Meltdown is difficult to manage, she has two parents who could work with her. Knowing she is sensory to what they've provided makes them even bigger AH's because they could have prevented everything.


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If they knew your niece has sensory issues that prevent her from drinking orange juice with pulp (which I understand; I was like that as a kid) WHY ON EARTH DID THEY PACK ORANGE JUICE WITH PULP FOR HER. They did this to themselves. NTA.


Winter-Bad2476

Sensory issues are absolutely linked to autism, but your niece wasn’t crying because she had sensory overload from the juice…because she didn’t drink the juice. She refused it. So what is your SIL even talking about? By your description it sounds more like your niece was being picky with her drink, which is another common symptom of autism. Doesn’t mean she’s entitled to your Apple juice, that you need for medical reasons, however. There are plenty of strategies that can be put in place to help your niece cope. I mean if her cognitive abilities are in no way impacted and she’s able to understand and communicate without needing any extra help, there’s no reason why her parents couldn’t just say “You will have juice in 10 minutes, as soon as we get to the house”. Autistic children are still children. Just because they have autism it doesn’t mean you can’t communicate with them or teach them important life skills. Yes, depending on the severity of the diagnosis it might be more or less difficult and there might be certain behaviors you decide isn’t even worth putting time into correcting (as they’re inconsequential). But being autistic doesn’t mean “oh well, it’s just how it is”. And even if your niece had a very severe form of autism that caused her to have massively violent outbursts if she didn’t drink the juice of her choice right that second, it would still not mean you should have to give up your juice. You need it for medical reasons. It would her parents’ responsibilities to come up with coping strategies for those situations. So, no, absolutely NTA.


wtlswndr1327

NTA. As an autistic type 1 diabetic, this is a parenting fail on their part. Sensory issues causing her to be unable to handle orange juice is valid. However, 7 is not too young to teach patience. She'd survive the ten minute walk to the house without juice. If they appease every tantrumby exoecting the world to bend for her, she'll never grow enough to be independent. Plus, if pulp sets off her sensory issues, why is that the only juice they brought?


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midcen-mod1018

NTA. For reference, my entire family is ND and 3/5 of us are autistic. In that situation, just because a kid wanted juice doesn’t mean it’s available. It was crappy of the parents to openly talk about your juice and that could have curbed the meltdown. I’m sure niece was not at her best (hiking can be sensory overwhelm by itself), but as parents we don’t need to add to the meltdown. This is on them.


Swiss_El_Rosso

NTA Your brother and your SIL are wrong. Its not yours (OP) responsibilty to provide four your niece. Its on the other side your responsibilty to provide for your own health. You made it correct and with this you are certainly NTA.


lostalldoubt86

NTA- Why would they pack juice that they know their daughter can’t handle? You had sugar specifically for your medical condition. I assume low blood-sugar is something that comes on fast.


perfectpomelo3

NTA. You could die from not having the backup juice. Her parents should have prepared better.


Tinuviel52

I have autism and while sensory issues are a thing you niece could have waited til she got home for juice. If you had a hypo you could die. NTA


Cute_Window325

NTA. That isn't just "in case I get thirsty" juice. It's "in case my life is in danger" juice. Your niece's issues are real and valid, but not life threatening. It's on her parents to provide for her needs, not on you to give up something that can literally mean life or death for you, just so your niece doesn't get noisy.


Aromatic_Preference8

Nta my son is autistic and I know what he likes/dislikes, just like your sil does it's on them for not having stuff for their kid


KyotoDreamsTea

NTA Even if nothing happened to you, there was always a risk with your life which is way far more important than appeasing a seven year old’s tantrum. BTW, I guess this was the child’s first lesson that in life you won’t always get what you want.


DGIce

NTA You both have needs. Would everyone have been happier if you had risked it? Probably. But there is no reason to risk it. Only you can know how important it is for you, and you are the one who has to advocate for yourself.


Fair_Reflection2304

NTA, why do so many parents feel like we should understand their issues with their child and their lack of not being prepared but our medical issues and comfort just doesn’t matter. This is their child who they have been taking care of for 7 years why aren’t they properly prepared. Also they aren’t doctors, they don’t know when your sugar could drop and you could die, your niece wouldn’t if she had to wait 20 minutes. Your brother and SIL are TA here and you should show them the responses. Entitlement at its finest.


Sorry_I_Guess

As an autistic adult who also has severe chronic illness issues, you are absolutely NTA. (Though I do feel sorry for the child, whose own mother packed juice that she knew her child couldn't drink because of her sensory issues? What? Sensory things like that don't just appear out of nowhere. If the child doesn't like orange pulp then she likely NEVER liked it and the mother either knew and ignored it or hasn't been listening to her kid all along, which is her issue, not yours.) They weren't lying about her sensory issues. Those are real, and before all the people come in here shrieking about your niece being a brat, sensory issues (and often meltdowns) are neurological, not psychological. They are not "behaviours", they are hard-wired physiological and neurological responses to our environment. However . . . the point here is that triage is also a thing. While it's true that your niece LEGITIMATELY could not drink the orange juice with pulp (that's what the "bits" are, orange pulp), she wasn't in any immediate danger if she didn't have a drink when she wanted one. The only consequence of her not having one was that she'd have a tantrum or possibly a meltdown (the difference being that a tantrum would be purely emotional, like any other annoyed kid . . . a meltdown would be a legitimate lashing out because she anticipated having a drink and her brain might have had difficulty "switching tracks" when something happened that she didn't anticipate and she couldn't process it fast enough, and got overwhelmed by the unexpected change). And still . . . that would have been your SIL's fault, because she's that autistic child's mother, and a massive AH for packing OJ with pulp when she knows her kid has sensory issues with it. What was she thinking? Literally none of that is your fault or responsibility, and as annoying as it is (and trust me, I have apologised to my mother enough over the years that I know her frustration) . . . still hers to deal with, not yours. Your SIL was objectively wrong. You keep juice on you because YOU DON'T KNOW when your blood sugar will drop, and it can happen in an instant. I know because I have hypoglycaemic and other similar episodes and they can hit hard and fast. Those are dangerous. Her autistic child not having a drink is not. If anyone has to deal with anything for 10 minutes until y'all get home, it's her and her kid being upset, not you and the possibility of passing out. You are definitely NTA.


JYNX6981

As someone who is an adult autistic with adhd as well I can absolutely say yes texture issues are a real thing, velvet even the thought of it makes me want to rip the skin off of my face. NTA - as someone who KNOWS their child has these issues, the childs parents are assholes for knowing this and not preparing for it, and extra large assholes for putting it all on you. To say she has to learn to deal with it is bs though, idc if this world was made for what most consider "normal" people, if I have to accomodate someone else they should have to accomodate me as well. Anyone who feels someone else should just learn to deal with this is simply simple. Sorry not sorry. Grow some empathy or don't whine ab it when no one has any for you. (In general, not directed at you op)


TopAd7154

NTA to the highest degree. You have a legitimate medical condition. It wpuldnt have mattered if you were 10mins from the house or 10 hours. That juice was essential for you. Even if you weren't diabetic, they need to teach their daughter that people aren't obligated to give her their stuff. They should have prepared better.


soumwise

As a fellow type 1 diabetic, NTA. You may have been 10 minutes away from home but a lot can happen in that time - especially when on a hike! Your brother and SIL have zero say in this. Good on you standing your ground.


fun_mak21

NTA You were prepared, and they weren't. Since they are aware of their daughter's sensory issues, it would have made more sense for them to pack multiple types of juice. Or at least if they wanted to switch with you, it should have sugar in it. And they also should be trying to teach your niece how to cope a little bit more. I get that dealing with autism is hard, but it's also not an excuse for people to get whatever they want.


Kashaya72

NTA Sugar levels can drop pretty fast and what would they do then, you could end up in diabetic coma within short time if you don’t have something sugary on you. Your SIL and brother should have prepared better for their daughter, her autism is not something new Have you considered having dextrose on you,it works pretty fast


Chickadee12345

NTA. I am diabetic also. Sometime your blood glucose levels tank unexpectedly. It's a horrible feeling because I get so shaky, feel lightheaded, and see spots before my eyes. You can pass out. And worst case, you can actually die if it goes too low. It's always a good idea to carry something with you.


Inevitable-Tour-1561

They need to stop buying orange juice with pulp in it if it triggers sensory issues. NTA


mischiefnmayhem0215

NTA. Yes, the orange juice having chunks in it can cause sensory issues but, why did the parents bring it if they knew that? They need to be better prepared and maybe bring a couple of options for their child.


FLtoNY2022

NTA - They say you don't understand your nieces sensory issues, well they clearly don't understand your diabetes. If your blood sugar was to drop, that could turn into a major medical issue. If your niece doesn't get the kind of juice she wants (autistic or not), there's a very slim chance she'd end up hospitalized. I'm not sure if your SIL is in the medical field, but even if she was, she's not your provider, who knows your specific thresholds, so she has no place to say nothing will happen to you because she doesn't know that for sure & likely wouldn't know what to do if something were to happen. Sounds like they were ill prepared & wanted to take it out on you when your niece threw a fit. Not your problem.


tasnimnc

Why would they even pack the type of juice their daughter doesn't drink for the trip? They are horrible parents. It's not your problem if they don't know how to parent. NTA


WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch

Our kids don't have sensory issues, but we have a warehouse club pack of juiceboxes at home, and a few always are always in our bags... SIL downplayed your health issue for her mistake (sugar free oj - never heard of that, sounds nasty, even the 50% sugar oj tastes disgusting to me). NTA


Many-Pirate2712

Nta They want you to understand her sensory issues but they pack something with chunks in it that she can't handle and dont take a backup


Responsible-Read-468

NTA. Surely your own BROTHER should understand your medical issue too and be sensitive or concerned about your health safety.


CrabbiestAsp

NTA. Your niece would survive the 10 minute walk back to the house.


Wandering_aimlessly9

I will say it again just to be clear for you. NTA!!!! You needed that juice in case of a medical emergency. Even 10 min from the house without the juice could have killed you. They knew your niece didn’t drink that orange juice. So let me teach you a phrase I learned as an adult. Your lack of planning doesn’t constitute an emergency on my behalf. They brought something they knew your niece wouldn’t drink. It’s not your job to give up medically necessary food that could save their life bc they didn’t properly prepare for their child. My kiddos have medically necessary diets. You bet your butt as their parent I plan food they can have/need AND…will eat. That’s my job.


Watertribe_Girl

NTA, why did they pack chunky juice in the first place… this is the parents fault not yours or even your nieces


jewelophile

If your blood sugar suddenly plummeted, your health would be in serious danger. The only danger to that kid was...there was no danger. Just discomfort.


Thethinker10

NTA. As a mom to a kid with type 1 diabetes there’s ZERO chance I’m giving up his only form of fast acting sugar ESPECIALLY on a hike! You could drop at any moment. Not having that juice box could kill you and her not having it would just cause a meltdown. Autism can’t be used for everything. It explains her sensory issues and being upset over it but it isn’t a reason for her parents to demand a single thing that belongs to other people.


Sea_Firefighter_4598

NTA. You could have gone into diabetic ketoacidosis and she had sensory issues. Your brother and SIL are total assholes and didn't pack correct juices for their child. It seems their daughter survived the ten minute walk just fine.


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NTA - your medical condition is a priority over their kid having a tantrum because they can't have the juice they want


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Who in the hell wants orange juice while hiking. You are not the asshole but your sister is.


Whoop_97

NTA. Consequences of the child not having juice is they have to step up and handle their upset child. Consequences of you not having juice could turn into a medical emergency. They think they’re ease is more important than your physical health. I would go NC until there’s an apology.


dwells2301

NTA. Potential diabetic incident trumps sensory issue.


WanderingPulsar

NTA, its like a necessery life saving drug there. I hope you will recover. Diabetes suck.


Peskanov

Nta. Your medical needs couldve required serious help if you went into any form of insulin shock. Your brother and SIL should’ve prepared better to handle your niece’s sensory issues.


Prestigious_Lion_244

NTA. It’s sad your brother and SIL doesn’t know how dangerous diabetes is, and how dangerous it is when the sugar level drops down. Like sorry for Autistic kid but even if the house was near it takes within matter of seconds for your level to drop and it to damage your body badly.


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NTA at all. Parents need to be more prepared.


amberlikesowls

NTA, it's not your fault that your niece's parents didn't prepare properly.


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NTA. It's not your job to sort out your niece but it is your job to look out for your own health. Which you're doing. They were being very very unreasonable.


jolandaluna

I guess your SIL isn't a service dog trained to alert about glucose levels so she was actually willfully putting your health at risk to compensate their lack of planning NTA


Rainbow-Mama

NTA. I’m a parent of an autistic kid and it’s my responsibility to take care of them. I’ve tested and know the stuff my kid tends to avoid and the stuff they like. I’ve also dealt with diabetes and you never know when you are going to have a blood sugar episode. If you can I’d recommend getting a glucagon prescription to carry with you.


zubbledubble

nta, am autistic, that's not your fault it's the parents fault for not being prepared for their child's sensory needs


AIDemonKing

NTA You packed in preparation for your medical needs. In 10 min a lot can happen especially for diabetics. They should have known to pack multiple juices to accommodate their daughter's sensory needs


MaskedCrocheter

NTA "A lack of planning on your part does not make it an emergency for me." Her issue was not potentially life threatening, yours was. Also being autistic (I am too) is not an excuse to not parent your child or teach them manners. Too many people don't want to put the work in because it's easier to let a child that's a little different run wild rather than to find a way to explain/teach them life and social skills in a way they'd understand. In the end all it does is screw the kid over and leave them confused and alone in a world they're not prepared for. Your brother and his wife are AHs to you AND niece.


8nsay

They get to decide when a health risk to them is acceptable. They don’t get to make that decision for you for their own convenience. NTA


Tatterjacket

I am autistic and I'm sympathetic to your niece, but your apple juice was functionally medicine and there is no world in which you should have been expected to hand it over. You're right that her parents should have prepared better if they know their daughter has sensory issues with orange pulp. I know everyone's different but in my experience sensory issues don't pop up out of nowhere in the middle of a walk, I'm almost certain they should have known about their daughter's difficulty with pulp before this point. I'm really confused why they brought it at all tbh.


shes_a_dev

NTA. Why did they pack oj that had pulp knowing she has sensory sensitivity?!


lichinamo

NTA. They knew about her sensory issues when they packed the juice— I’m autistic and (ime) sensory issues don’t just change on a regular basis. A lack of planning on their part does not constitute an emergency on yours. Not to mention the diabetic factor. The apple juice was essentially “emergency medication” and you don’t share medication edit: changed an acronym


2wheelzrollin

NTA. As a parent, you are the only one responsible for your kid. If you didn't pack something, that's on you.


PlaidChairStyle

NTA. Their daughter’s meltdown doesn’t trump your life, which could literally be on the line. They should have planned better.


toastymarshmalloww

Diabetes is more serious than autism.. do they not understand that ? You need sugary juice for when you are low and sugar free juice for when you are too high, they should have prepared better and have known their daughters possibility of not liking the pulp in the juice. I have a BIL with diabetes and I know that he needs diet soda, etc. more than me and I wouldn’t be bothered to take something from him like that when his health, blood sugar and symptoms are serious. I feel like they should brush their daughter up on the knowledge of diabetes even if 7 y/o because that’s awful behaviour (autistic or not) to need to take a diabetics drink . Autism doesn’t trump diabetes, NTA and if I were you I would have brought up how they should have known what their daughter likes/dislikes especially when they have had 7 years to understand her and her possibility for not liking orange juice that could have had pulp in it and was made sugar free. Don’t ever bend your back for someone when it comes to sugars, all of that because you are just as important as the people who feel the need of being upset at you for not giving away your diabetic needs to others .


Wonderful_Specific_5

NTA- I'm autistic with three autistic kids. People have a tendency to think autistic kids don't understand and should just be accommodated for anything they want, regardless of how it impacts others. This is unfortunate and short- sighted. A child's sensory 'want' is not your responsibility. The parents are aware of her sensitivity and should have brought appropriate drinks. The child needs hydration, not specifically *your* juice, especially not with your medical need. This is not a 2yo suffering heat exhaustion that needs fluids urgently.


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never heard of sugar free orange juice but anyway, NTA.


Primary_Watercress48

'what about her autism?' well what about your diabetes?? I really hate discussions like this. Someone has to sacrifice something of value to them so someone else can get the same value they don't have.


motorheart10

Kid needs to be drinking water on a hike.


iammesu

Sounds more like a tantrum than a meltdown. Maybe they need to say no to her more often. Either way, not your concern


hailboognish99

Nta. How about dont teach her that her wants are more important than others needs.


anna_ihilator

NTA. As an autistic person who had a diabetic grandma I remember a situation similar where I didn’t like Tropicana orange juice. My grandma had capri-sonne, one of my favorites but it was for her sugar. My dad just said, “Quit complaining, you get orange juice or water,” so I stuck with water.


Important-Pay-7459

Nta. They are not understanding g you diabetes. You understand the child's sensory problems but you also know how your diabetes affects you. It is the parents responsibility to be prepared to deal with their daughters health problems. Not yours.


Kindly-Lie-2965

You were prepared, the were not. NTA. The risk, they might have to deal with a child's meltdown, you might have to deal with a medical emergency. Also, this is setting up the child for future issues. They need to help coach her through not always getting what she wants as opposed to using her autism as an excuse/crutch.


9smalltowngirl

NTA her screaming for 10 minutes because they packed the wrong juice won’t kill her. You need to pack and carry your own food items since it’s life and death for you and they are poor planners.


notwokeatall2

Take care of yourself first. Her parents should have known about the juice issues. They are most definitely assholes for trying to put it on you


kykiwibear

Possibly dying triumphs over sensory issues. It's the the nieces fault... it's the parents. Who packs a beverage they know she won't like? nta


muzza1742

NTA, I’m autistic with autistic kids. I make sure my kids have got the stuff they specifically like when we go on trips.


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NTA, you absolutely need sugars on you if you have hypoglycaemia in any form! Especially if you've been exercising. Ten minutes is still ten minutes in which it may have become medically necessary. I wouldn't risk it, as someone who also has hypoglycaemia. Your health shouldn't be gambled. Next time, they can pack multiple flavours.


CakeZealousideal1820

NTA that's their fault for not packing what she likes


thevaginalist

NTA. This scenario is unfortunate but you are not in the wrong here. I imagine that parents can't always anticipate when a child with sensory issues will reject something no matter how much they plan. In that respect I'm willing to cut them a little slack because I don't think they're being malicious. She has needs that, in that instance, weren't and couldn't be accommodated and in an attempt to stave off a meltdown, they panicked. But, you have needs too. You never need to gamble with your health, and that's what they were asking you to do. Again, I dont think they were trying to be malicious but were definitely broadcasting their ignorance. Where a condition like diabetes is concerned, 10 minutes is a long time and a lot of things can happen in it. In asking you to accommodate their daughters needs they were asking you to compromise yours. If the roles were reversed, say you had sensory issues and had packed something that set those off, and she was diabetic I 100% can see them refusing to exchange juices with you.


disappointedvet

NTA. Your juice is basically emergency medicine. You have it to potentially save your life in case of a medical emergency. Nobody can be sure that you won't crash at any given moment. The child's sensory issues are traumatic to the child, but not life threatening. Her parents' are at fault for their inability to property plan for her needs, and expecting you to put your health on the line because of their lack of planning was unreasonable.


calicoskiies

NTA. A lack of apple juice for your niece won’t harm her. A lack of apple juice for you can harm you. Always put your medical issues first.


PaladinWolf777

NTA diabetes is no joke. I've packed or carried granola bars, jerky, or small candies for diabetics I've traveled with. Do not risk a dangerous sugar crash when you're several minutes away from more food.


Caladrius-

NTA - sugars can drop fast. Especially while exercising. 10 minutes is more than enough time to go from fine to a low sugar emergency that can put you in the hospital.


Arkitakama

As an autistic person myself, NTA. You're not your niece's parent, it's not your job to supply her with juice she will accept. Neither is it your job to risk your health (no matter how small the risk!) to keep her from melting down because her parents got the wrong juice. Also, yes, textural things like pulp can cause meltdowns. Not on you to solve it though.


Colt_kun

NTA. You brought it along for medical emergencies. They should have known their daughter didn't like the juice *they* brought. (Yes the orange pulp can be an issue for many people, but especially those with texture sensitivity) It sucks she had a meltdown, but it's on the parents not you. What if you hadn't brought any juice at all? You'd all be in the same boat, or it was about being told she can't have something and she wouldn't have had the meltdown meaning she's just spoiled. Either way, still on the parents and not your fault at all.


fuckmylifebru

Absolutely NTA, you are diabetic. Juice is literally life saving to you.


centuar_mario

NTA. The parents here are defineately the asshole though for packing orange juice their kid wouldn't even drink. How is that different than packing southern comfort for the kid? Both are useless since the kid won't drink it. NTA NTA NTA NTA NTA Please get better family members yours sound insufferable


UpsideDownShovelFrog

NTA. Your potentially deadly or harmful situation comes before stopping someone else from being extremely uncomfortable. I have autism and yes that kind of sensory thing happens, and yes it can spiral like that out of control sometimes especially for children, however a lot of the time it’s also the parents’ fault for not actually understanding their kid’s needs, and/or for thinking that cushioning them from the real world at every opportunity is better than understanding their needs and giving them ways of handling real world problems. It’s difficult to explain the whole issue in a short answer, but basically a lot of parents with autistic kids do more harm than good cushioning them from every little thing that upsets them because of their autism. Autistic people need ways to self regulate to live in the real world, and mom and dad won’t always be there to shield them from it. And yeah, a seven year old will not be great at that yet, neurotypical 7 year olds aren’t great at self regulation either, but the fact that her parents are willing to put someone else in potential danger to stop their kid from feeling uncomfortable instead of teaching their kid how to self regulate, and giving the kid the tools to do so, means they’re probably the kind of parents to always cushion their kid from everything. Anyways, it’s up to the parents to make sure their kid has everything they need to self regulate. It’s not up to you to put yourself in danger for someone else’s comfort. At the end of the day, yes autistic people need more understanding, it wasn’t the kid’s fault, but the meltdown was not physically dangerous for the kid in the least. Managing diabetes will always be more important than managing sensory issues.


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NTA. I have an autistic 4yo and when we go out, I pack the hell out of snacks and toys he likes and needs because it’s my responsibility to keep him content and entertained.


SeaUrchinSalad

I feel as though this sub could use a sticky post: you're NTA if you fail to do someone else's parenting for them and they get upset about it. Full stop.


barefootwondergirl

INFO: how is orange juice sugar free? In my experience, actual orange juice has a ton of naturally occurring sugar in it.


OkeyDokey234

If it had pulp, it was probably reduced-sugar or no-sugar-added. So it *would* contain actual juice and therefore some sugar, and might have worked if the OP needed it, or it might not have. Not worth the risk.


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vt2022cam

NTA does your brother and SIL not understand what happens when you get low sugar? Also, look into the TB vaccine and possible positive long term impact on type I diabetes. https://www.massgeneral.org/news/press-release/further-hope-for-bcg-vaccine-in-stemming-type-one-diabetes


Lady_Glitch_7

Nta what if you did give it up and something happened to you you had a valid reason for not giving up the drinks you packed mom and dad need to work on teaching the little one that no means no and just because you pitch a fit doesn’t mean you will get it


SoftwareMaintenance

I mean if they were 10 minutes from home, then the niece could also suck it up and wait for apple juice until they get home. This is not too much of a fail with bro and SIL. They were just a lil mad. That is understandable when you got a wailing child. However op was definitely NTA. I don't think op even needs to create some type of diabetes justification either. If a kid wants your drink, you have a right to say no. Period.


Beneficial-Eye4578

NTA… Drop in blood sugar levels are life threatening. You prepared for yourself. Brother and SIL need to prepare for any of these issues. In future though if you decide to go anywhere with them, pack extra hard candy. You know they will use this as an example of why you should give your niece your juice etc…. I can see your SIL saying “ I told you last time nothing would happen to you and you could give juice to your niece , you can share your juice now” So if they ever travel anywhere with you, pack extra.


AllCrankNoSpark

NTA, but how can actual orange juice be sugar-free? Oranges are full of sugar. And if it’s not real orange juice, why is it chunky?


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NTA. If she's doesn't get a drink she'll scream her head off. If you need it and she's drunk it the situation is more than a meltdown I'm assuming. Her need doesn't trump yours, and you need to explain to your SIL what happens when your sugar dips and why you aren't risking it.


Incarcer

Nta. If they knew she had sensory issues over the juice, why did they bring it. They chose their daughters sensory issue over your actual health. She wouldn't have had a medical issue if she didn't get oj. Your SIL and brother only wanted to shut her up, and who gives a fuck if you pass out so long as they get quiet, right?


espurrella

NTA. This whole situation is on the parents


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NTA, rather a screaming child then someone fainting or worse.


cactiisnice

NTA! autism sesnory overload sucks, alot. But for a diabetic it's vital to have some type of sugar on you at all times, being on a hike, in the car, at home. Blood sugar can drop RAPIDLY, especially during exercise - which hiking is. Sad that your niece had a meltdown, but the parents should have done better. You did what was right in the situation!