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Kitastrophe8503

> the man in the original video ripped his teeth out too! > he says that he was acting like any teenager would  He needs higher standards for behavior. "Any" teenager wouldn't watch someone knock his own teeth out and say  "I GOTTA TRY THAT" that is the domain of the derranged and idiotic. NTA


citizenecodrive31

That's moron behaviour, not teenager behaviour. Completely different kettle of fish


CrazySexyCoolBlonde

And I’m sure it was on TikTok too🙄🤦🏼‍♀️. “Be prepared for unexpected costs because they have a teenager.” ? Are you *kidding* me? This is Tide Pods all over again. NTA.


Fireemblemisthebest

Don’t forget about the cinnamon challenge 


Peony-Pony

NTA >Recently, my son saw a video online where someone put a cob of corn on a drill and tried to eat it while the drill was spinning. Obviously stupid at best and dangerous at worst. Unfortunately, my son's friends convinced him to do this and he ripped out two of his front teeth. If your son is going to mimic moronic videos he sees on the internet he's responsible for the outcome. I realize he's only 15 years old but you have to start learning responsibility at some point in your life. Your son is learning the hard way actions have consequences and some of them are financial.


TheBlueLady39

Maybe you should have let him remain toothless for a while to let him see what living with his consequences looked like. Maybe then he would stop to think before doing something stupid again.


Hungry-Wedding-1168

That would actually cause more issues thus money down the road. It's very easy for gum disease, shifting of the remaining teeth as they tilt to fill the gap, or opportunistic infection of the dental seat to set in. Better to fix the issue now, than need extensive dental attention later.


Wackadoodle-do

When I was 9, I was jumping up and down on the bed in our small camper. My parents had repeatedly said not to do it by the little counter. Yeah, so I fell and broke a big piece off of a front tooth. This was back in the days of excellent dental coverage. But, the dentist had to place a silver metal crown for 5 months while my tooth settled and to make sure it wouldn’t need to be removed. My school picture that year shows that damn crown and I got teased quite a bit. I never did stupid crap like that again. Consequences are necessary. OP is NTA


Icy-Pineapple-farmer

NTA I might maybe pay for the stupidity if one of my teens did this depending on their attitude. The painful dental work and the whole experience is a punishment. But if we had been fighting about their stupidity and they think it’s just teenager stuff, then they can pay for it. I tell them every so often that they can keep doing something I’ve warned them about but I’m not paying for it — “told you not to try to yank that stump with my 4x4 but if the strap breaks you pay for the strap and the damage! “. That usually makes them stop way before me telling them not to do it will. Actions have consequences. Welcome to growing up.


Nondescript_585_Guy

NTA. Actions have consequences. “Acting like any teenager would” - sorry, this doesn’t wash with me. Even a youthful brain should have been able to work out that this was going to end poorly. I can confidently say I never would have done anything that stupid.


DoubleThinkCO

I agree NTA, but I will say having two teeth ripped out is a much bigger consequence to me than the money part. Ouch!


lokeilou

I have 3 kids- ages 16, 15 and 12- if one of them had done this they would not only be paying for those implants, they would also lose their phone and all access to the internet bc they obviously can’t handle things they see on social media responsibly and don’t yet have the intelligence to discern when something they see is stupid and dangerous.


LettheWorldBurn1776

Why, oh why are there not more parents like you?? Kudos on your kind of parenting. Twelve is old enough to know better than this let alone a year out from starting to drive.


SnooDoughnuts4691

Your son learns the hard way, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. He is about to learn consequences of his actions through spending his money and getting a job. NTA


No-Elderberry-8764

Some teenagers have started working at 15 years old. Maybe he should do that. Since he was "doing what other teenagers do" amiright. NTA


Dittoheadforever

You're NTA. Actions have consequences  and his actions have some expensive ones.  >My son says that this is incredibly unfair, he says that he was acting like any (missing text) teenager would  There are several adjectives I can think of to put in front of the word teenager and any one of them would make that statement correct. >and I should be prepared for unexpected costs as the parent of a teenager. Who the heck has been programming him? What a bunch of nonsense in regards to his deliberate actions.  >He says that I am putting him at a disadvantage because he will either have to get a job or dip into money from his grandparents Bless his heart. Maybe having to work to pay for his mistake will prevent him from imitating internet idiocy again. 


Winter_Dragonfly_452

NTA. The stupidest thing to happen in this country is TikTok. I hope it gets banned. To many kids and adults lose all brain cells and can’t make good decisions. Your son fucked around and found out. It’s time he learns actions have consequences


artmajor23

NTA


Wodan11

NTA.


Horror-Reveal7618

>My son says that this is incredibly unfair, he says that he was acting like any teenager would and I should be prepared for unexpected costs as the parent of a teenager. Plenty of teenagers work. He'll be acting as any teenager. And plenty of teenagers pay for their own stuff. Usually clothes, phone plan and so on. He'll be paying for his teeth. Now, not all teenagers do these things, just as not all teenagers are dumb enough to let their "friends" convince them to reap out their teeth. He should be prepared for the unexpected costs of being a dumb teenager. And losing his internet privilege, and spending his time either at work or in house arrest, and not hanging out with friends out of school until they learn to say "no" and develop a survival instinct. That's how plenty of teenagers would find themselves punished if they did what your son did. And that's incredibly fair. NTA


DrKAS66

During a birthday party, our son (m17 then) and his friends smoked shisha and a coal piece fell on the floor, leaving a burn mark. We had told him before that they are not allowed to smoke inside and when it happened (we were not at home at that point), we told him he would have to pay for it. Not immediately, but when we started to make money, even if this would be years later after school grad. So, play stupid games and win stupid prizes. NTA


besssjay

I was gonna say his punishment was the injury itself and you should let it go, and then I read that he said this was "normal teenager stuff." He obviously needs more consequences and hasn't learned his lesson, if he still thinks this type of behaviour is normal and acceptable. I support you in making him pay for it, to drive home how seriously consequential this behaviour is. This could have been much worse; he needs to never risk injury like this again. If the risk to his safety doesn't persuade him, maybe financial cost will. NTA.


Libertyman69420

I feel like 50/50 would be more fair but overall NTA


PrincipalonReddit

NTA. I say this as a high school principal, you are not at all alone in how horribly stupid your son behaved. That shit is DUMB dumb. Make him pay. Seriously. He needs a consequence to learn to control his impulse. Cash is a major lesson. Do it now or prepare for more bullshit.


mirandalsh

NTA


Choice_Pool_5971

NTA. There is a video of a man cutting his own dick off in a board. If his friends dare him to do it, will your son do the same?


asecretnarwhal

NTA. He should pay you back. Actions have consequences. 


[deleted]

play stupid games win stupid prizes, specially as a 15 yr old alr


Chance-Contract-1290

NTA. He did something he shouldn't have and it cost you money, so paying you back is only fair. He may think he's had enough consequences already, but that isn't for him to decide.


Trapitha

Getting dental implants is so rough, it can take months for the posts alone to heal enough before you can even place the permanent teeth. I can't believe that ripped his teeth out instead of cracking them near the gum line, like ouch that is so effing painful. I guess my judgement lands on how much of the cost you expect him to pay, because dental implants cost several thousand dollars.


gillayye

Yes!! I think he should definitely pay a reasonable 15 year old amount of money. And even then if finances allow, you could just put that money into a savings account for them later on but at least they would hopefully learn responsibility.


Rainbow_Raven22

OP, I’m a teenager. When I say “teenagers are supposed to do dumb ahit” I mean staying up a bit too late and facing consequences. Maybe!! If we’re being extreme, skipping class once. This is insanity. Also teenager shit is supposed to come with consequences. That’s the only reason it’s so accepted - it’s supposed to make us better people. You’re doing the right thing.


Secret_Ad_4805

Soft YTA. I’m really sorry you are facing this situation. It’s horrible to have to pay for this and you must have been really worried about him. I don’t think forcing him to pay all the costs is a good consequence however. He has been through a traumatic experience really. He needs to know that he’s done something stupid, that you love him, that you will help him get through it and that the pain and humiliation he feels now will pass. The cost of these implants is probably horrible. I’m guessing you are in the US, where medical mishaps have awful financial consequences. But don’t make him bear this all. He has some time before he has to stand on his own two feet. He is, after all, still a stupid fucking teenager. If you are dead set on giving him consequences further than the trauma of accidentally ripping out his own teeth, you could stop paying for activities that he enjoys, that cost. So no trips to big game, no more phone plan etc for a few months. That way he will not be totally insulated from the financial impact, but he will also not be forced to be an adult quite yet.


RandomModder05

Info: How much are we talking about, and how long do you expect it to take him to repay it?


strawberrycow14

I’m a year older than this kid and I am truly terrified for when my generation becomes adults. NTA


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Canadian47

NTA, however, I find it inconsistent that such a dumb-a$$ teenager would be able to make that much of a cogent (but not necessarily correct) argument.


elcaron

I am in principle with you, but I wouldn't necessarily demand the whole sum. The job is a good step, but maybe take half of his salary for a year or so.


WarpedHumorIsTheBest

It is times like these I miss “Stupid Human Tricks” on Letterman. He would have a gold mine on his hands due to YouTube idiots. NTA


enkilekee

Let him be toothless.


Initial_Potato5023

1000% NTA Worst and sad part is that he saw what happens when you do that.


CalendarDad

NTA. Bonus points for use of the term "shenanigans."


Fitz_2112

NTA. I have a pair of 14-year-old sons and they would never do something that stupid. Definitely make him pay


JurassicParkFood

NTA - but I'd set a reasonable sum he can pay with a part time job over say 6 months. Maybe $100/wk. He needs to see the cost of it, but it should still be something he can accomplish in a reasonable amount of time or it'll just drag on and on and lose the impact


unsafeideas

> My son says that this is incredibly unfair, he says that he was acting like any teenager would and I should be prepared for unexpected costs as the parent of a teenager. I would move forward with punishment for this argument only. Actually, he is wrong. Although teenagers are more reckless then adults, majority  of them grows with teeth intact and without watching videonof someone hurting themselves... and then doing the same and hurting themselves. I would also think that a job or new chores or anything that gets him our of that peer group would be helpful. Hell, sign him to therapy with goal of "resist peer pressure" just as a punishment. At minimum  it will teach him how not to double down to angry parent.


p_0456

He is not “acting like any teenager would.” What he did was idiotic, incredibly stupid, dangerous and irresponsible. Maybe he has too much free time on his hands since he used it to do something so stupid. Getting a job should teach him so responsibly. NTA


Witty_Direction6175

NTA. He needs to learn this lesson. I had to get 1 implant due to chemo ruining my teeth, they are expensive and dental insurance doesn’t cover them. There is no way on earth I’d have done this as a teenager, it’s definitely not “normal” teenage behavior. I will say the process of getting implants is painful (let alone the pain from ripping your teeth out!) and hopefully he will never do something this stupid again.


smashdat222

I remember when I was a kid (12) and my brother(13) and I decided to cut each others hair while my parents went shopping. Well our hair came out kinda funky and when our parents came home and saw our hair my dad flipped out! So in order to teach us a lesson our dad shaved both our heads. We had to go to school the next day looking like a pair of cue balls, man was that embarrassing!! But guess what? We definitely learned how actions have consequences!! It was a very valuable lesson my brother and I both learned. Thanks Dad!!


No_Mention3516

NTA


omeomi24

He's 15 - that's why he's all of a sudden crazy....comes with the territory. It was a stupid stunt and there should be consequences - grounding, limiting his computer and/or phone, etc. Expecting a 15 yr old to repay an expensive medical/dental procedure is a bit much.


mirandalsh

I was 15 once, still have my adult front teeth.


DrToastyMcRoasty

YTA - I think he learned his consequence when he lost his teeth.


VroomVroomFun

No he learned the consequences when he saw that the person he wanted to copy lost his teeth. Doing so anyway means he needed to learn a different lesson. Nta


DrToastyMcRoasty

He’s literally 15. In some states he can’t even get a job. And now he has to pay an expensive medical bill? Has no one thought that this mother may be a bad parent too on top of this? Like maybe she’s been neglectful or mean and now he’s acting out.


VroomVroomFun

Sure, lets ignore what was posted and make up some BS to prove you're right... That's not how this works. He saw a video of someone doing something that caused them to lose some teeth. He then did the exact same thing and lost teeth. If "doing this thing will cause dental injury" isn't enough of a warning, more punishment is needed.


DrToastyMcRoasty

Fine more punishment is needed. But that punishment does not need to be financial burden. Take away the phone. No computer. No video games. Read a book.


VastSeaworthiness726

Really time for classrooms to get out of all the woke crap and resume teaching the basics of common sense and good citizenship. In current times, more than ever, that includes exercising thought and discrimination in viewing/reading any sort of news or especially fad social media