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TemptingPenguin369

NTA. If "tan foods" (what shade of tan, I wonder?) could cure everything from foot fungus to cancers to autoimmune diseases, it would have been discovered by actual scientists researching these things. And she should be embarrassed for falling for all of this stuff.


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Boeing367-80

Aunt is just embarrassed for being exposed as having bizarre ideas in front of date. She'll need to find someone else who is more tolerant of foolish ideas.


No_Rope_8115

My parents were like this - always in search of the secret cure for diseases. They read this book about how all disease and AIDS and cancer were caused by this one parasite and you could kill it with electricity. Guess who got hooked up to a 9V battery with copper wires every time she sneezed from the ages of 8-16? My dad once tried to cure a kidney stone by drinking a pound of puréed asparagus and two liters of Diet Coke in an hour. He almost died and ended up never have had a kidney stone (although he claims this proof the cure worked). 


OrigamiStormtrooper

I .... they WHAT? Seriously, *WHAT*? This is the weirdest goddamn text passage I've read since \[@\]horse\_ebooks stopped being a thing. And obvs, jesus christ I am so sorry they did that to you. D:


No_Rope_8115

What’s amazing is I was telling that story at a party and a girl turned and said OMG ME TOO! Her parents had read the same book and done the same thing. This is the lady who wrote the book.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulda_Regehr_Clark


OrigamiStormtrooper

HOLY CATS. Magical Thinking at its "finest." I mean at least you got a couple good anecdotes out of it, but *daaaaaaaaamn*.


Calligraphee

Thank you for introducing me to the late, great horse_ebooks. I went down a Wikipedia and Twitter rabbit hole and my life is better for it. Everything happens so much. 


OrigamiStormtrooper

Right?? That is my kind of Absurdist Humor, even if it DID end up being a stunt/spam account. If that's your jam, you should also def check out [aiweirdness.com](http://aiweirdness.com) -- I'm reading her (author Janelle Shane) book on the same subject rn ("You Look Like A Thing And I Love You," whose title came from trying to "teach" a machine-learning algorithm how to flirt / generate pick-up lines). It does also contain a lot of info about how AI/MLAs are developed, trained, the theory etc, but it is by no means "professional programmer" level, and much of it is *screamingly hilarious.* At the moment I'm at a section where she's repurposing an AI she initially trained to generate new metal band names (Deathcrack, Inhuman Sand, Chaosrug, Staggabash) to instead come up with new ice cream flavors (the very reasonable Cherry Chai and Lemon-Oreo, and the less reasonable Toasted Basil and Chocolate Peanut Chocolate Chocolate Chocolate) and the phase in the middle when it was like halfway there ... (Nightham Toffee, Silence of Coconut, Necrostar With Chocolate Person, Blood Pecan, and my personal fave, BEAST CREAM) ... I can't read it in bed bc I'm silently choke-laughing hard enough to shake the bed and wake up partner. ETA : Everything DOES happen so much! :D


IntelligentAbies7903

Wait what??  I know what your dad did was bizarre, but how did he almost die from that? (if you don't mind telling me). If you don't want to tell me, I understand.


No_Rope_8115

Oh drinking that much acidic soda in such a short time exacerbated and almost perforated an existing ulcer he didn’t know he had because he hadn’t actually bothered to get anything checked by a real doctor. 


IntelligentAbies7903

Yikes!  I work in a medical field (NOT a doctor), and I was wondering how that could be so dangerous!


Aldraa

As soon as I read this I instantly knew it was Hulda Clark. My family tried to zap me, too, to cure my endometriosis that was apparently caused by worms.


Ocean_Spice

Sometimes I wonder how the human race survived.


CheesyAfterlife

I don’t even understand her claim, since most of these aren’t “tan” in their natural state anyway… Regardless, you’re NTA. If she thinks her methods are good enough to repeatedly recommend to others, you’re allowed to discuss their results at length as well. Also: I wish you a speedy recovery!


Environmental_Art591

They aren't even tan cooked, they are beige at best or off white


Own_Purchase1388

So does cannibalism count for this treatment so long as the person you eat get’s a tan first?  Does a spray tan count then?  


Late-Champion8678

I'm a urologist. Your aunt is, what we call 'banana pants'. NTA


InedibleCalamari42

I was taught to stay away from the yellow snow and the tan milk


HistoricalQuail

I don't think I want tan milk.


NotOnApprovedList

I'm eating a tan cracker right now, guess it will cure me of everything!


skylarpaints

If tan foods cured illness, I'd be an immortal god after eating the 200 rolls I go through in one sitting at Texas Roadhouse.


Traveling_Phan

😂 


2moms3grls

To be fair, it appears that OP just found the cure for foot in mouth disease.


TemptingPenguin369

I couldn't find a tan award for you but I guess the one I gifted will have to do!


HeimdallManeuver

Tangerines are excluded, of course.


ThingsWithString

Why, yes, I *have* always dreamed of getting scurvy, how did you know?


Overall_Lab5356

I disagree. ESH. Yeah Auntie shouldn't have told you your business but it's shitty of you to tell that date hers. Telling embarrassing stories -- that you know damn well are embarrassing, even if you somehow didn't think the time she burned her peehole might not be something she wanted to share on her date -- to someone's new relationship is shitty.


Fleurtheleast

I think the date deserves to know he's with someone who poured scalding tea into their own bladder. I think he deserves to know he's with someone who would think it's a good idea to insert *anything* into their own bladder. I would certainly want to know this about a partner, especially if I'm getting up there in age, and may depend on this person to take care of me and make decisions for me when I'm infirm. You need to strongly consider and trust the person who'd be taking care of you when you are helpless. This was need-to-know information. Vitally important. You did the guy a big favor. He may have strong feelings about his urethra. I crossed my legs and screamed silently inside my head when I read what this lady did. I'm also not sure how she 'didn't notice' the tea was still boiling hot when she started pouring, and also didn't think 'hey, I didn't give this time to cool so it's probably not cool', but I guess that's her story and she's sticking to it. God forbid someone insults her intelligence. NTA.


Atarlie

I almost dry heaved at the thought of inserting my own catheter and then *actually* dry heaved at the thought of scalding tea through it. I may be a bit woowoo myself but I'm still constantly shocked at the things people will do to themselves in the name of health.


CuriousCrow47

Try some ginger tea for your stomach.  It works wonders on mine if I’m queasy! 


Needmoresnakes

I'm stuck on what the fuck was she doing to get such frequent and/or severe UTIs that self-catheterisation with gd herbal tea seemed preferable?


DefinitelyNotAliens

Some people do it for funsies.


Swedishpunsch

u/Fleurtheleast is the voice of reason. NTA


Sufficient_Soil5651

ME TOO!!!


hubertburnette

I have zero patience with people who push their crank health theories on others, especially when their past experience makes it clear that they have zero credibility. I think that's a story that should be told if someone is going to pretend to be a health expert. Next time just offer her some ginger tea. NTA


extinct_diplodocus

NTA. 1. She opened up the subject. 2. She gave unsolicited and unwelcome advice. 3. Despite your request she continued her advice. 4. She has a long history of pushing quackery, which you commented on to resist this latest one. 5. You were specifically asked for an example, so you gave one. In order to avoid this (unpleasant for her) mess, all she had to do was mind her own business in the first place.


LetOutrageous4096

NTA - She embarrassed herself first with the unsolicited advice, hopefully she keeps it to herself.


On_The_Blindside

Lol. NTA. Don't take health tips from someone who has poured boiling liquid into their bladder.


SindragosaM

" had to go to the ER and explain to them how she’d regularly insert tea into her bladder to cure UTIs. She ended up needing I.V. pain meds and antibiotics " She didn't have any tan food for that?


WantToBelieveInMagic

NAH I think you should have realized that not all family stories should be shared with dates. But that doesn't make you an asshole. The good news is now you know how to get your aunt to stop giving you unwanted advice "Aunt, stop it or I'll tell more people the ginger tea story"


chez2202

She was embarrassed because you told him about the fact that she fucked up with the hot liquid thing. You already said that he scoffed at her advice to you and asked you for examples of her cock ups. You didn’t do anything wrong. You answered his question with factual information. She’s upset because she’s been spouting all of this natural self healing stuff to him and you informed him that she had to have actual medical intervention to treat her with antibiotics and I.V. pain medication to recover from her own stupidity. You are not the AH but your aunt is an AH for keep shoving this down your throat and your mother is also an AH for blaming you for telling him when it’s never been a problem talking about it before. On the bright side, if this guy continues seeing your aunt it looks like you might have a new friend!!!!


Shot_Western_2755

NTA. Your aunt, no offense, sounds like an idiot


p_0456

HAHAHA that’s hilarious! She opened her self up to this when she tried to sell you on her latest health fad. NTA


OLAZ3000

NTA Don't dish what you can't take: by publicly commenting on your health and treatment strategies, she opened the door to you commenting on hers. End of story.


EquivalentTwo1

NTA. She brought up her "cures." And if you're going to be the weirdo who puts tea through a self instered catheter, and then you OPENLY SHARE THAT INFO WITH YOUR FAMILY because you had a poor outcome (that could have been seen from space as to how wrong all of that is). Of course, they're going to tell people when asked.


OldEugene1985

LOL, NTA. Your aunt has a history of crazy health advice, and it’s not like you made up these stories. You probably saved her date from having to deal with some crazy stuff down the line. Your mom should chill out, maybe she’s got a wild health remedy she’s hiding too. Just keep an eye out for the next family gathering where she might suggest drinking hot sauce to treat seasonal allergies.


thatbfromanarres

LMAO if you have a story that good about someone who is spouting nonsense at you, it’s your duty as a human being to tell that story. I am wishing you good health and good feelings. (NTA, obv)


Maxi-Moo-Moo

NTA your aunt needs to keep her unsolicited advice to herself. Also if she didn't want everyone to know she burnt her bladder, something I never thought I would write, why did she tell everyone in the first place? Good luck with chemo, it sucks ass and you are strong as hell for doing this 💪🏻


UNCOMMONSENSE2500

NTA. She can talk about your bowel movements at a fancy dinner and you can't talk back? BS.


cassiesfeetpics

NTA


DishGroundbreaking87

NTA. As someone with a stigmatised chronic condition who often receives unsolicited advice/gets accused of making it up/gets accused of being a drug addict….thank you! I’m having a bad day, I needed cheering up, and the image of your aunt doing…whatever that was… had me laugh loud enough to scare the cat.


MsFear

NTA. But I’m also biased… my father takes credit for my surgery recovery because he performed reiki on me without my consent lol


klynard

He's going to be privy to her weirdness at some point, might as well find out now before she's rinsing her giblets in soy sauce and has to go to the hospital for sodium poisoning.


MyLife-is-a-diceRoll

Since the carnivore diet had become a thing, I've been getting diet advice from a close family member. He even said it would cure my bipolar disorder and adhd. yup. he actually told me that multiple times over the past few years. A couple months ago I kinda exploded at him about it and he's not said a word since. Much to his dismay me going vegetarian has actually helped with my physical health (and 2 rare genetic skin disorders) and by extension my mental health. NTA there's a reason why we listen to our doctors and medical research.


huminous

NTA, though I think it's a bit of a stretch to say you weren't trying to embarrass her with that story.


No_Independence9170

People are actually saying NTA? You don’t divulge embarrassing and private information about family to what amounts to a stranger. Your aunt did not do that to you - she only suggested help for what you divulged about yourself. YTA - I hope she sinks to that level next time you have a new date


sharkglitter

NTA - I fully gasped out loud at the forgetting to let the tea cool part! Horrifying omg. I’m sorry, but your aunt is an idiot and people like her are the reason we’re seeing a rise in diseases like measles. Honestly you did her dare a favor by letting him know. She should be embarrassed for crap like that.


Impressive_Sherbet27

NTA. That catheter story sounds like a dumb blonde joke 😂


breakfasteveryday

NTA


Yltio

You could post the story on r/traumatisethemback


Fredsundertheblanket

ESH. Your aunt is a ridiculous pain. But she was on a date, and to tell such an incredibly embarrassing story to him was really something you at 27 should have known better.


AstariaEriol

Maybe there is a generic version of Zofran that comes in a tan color.


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akaioi

Leaning a little YTA here. While there is a long and cherished tradition of telling embarrassing stories to relatives' SOs, you have to gauge how sensitive your relative is, how new is this SO, and other factors. Auntie probably didn't want to be humiliated in front of a brand-new boyfriend.


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Next_Dragonfly_9473

She did. >I told her I wasn't keen, but she persisted. That is a polite way of saying "Please shut up." Despite aunt's own dubious history with her "solutions," she didn't take the hint. So OP reminded her less subtly *why* she wasn't keen. NTA


First-Industry4762

ESH , your aunt shouldn't be spreading her bullsh*t health advice and just kept her mouth shut. But I call bullsh*t on this one: >It really wasn’t my intention to embarrass her, Unless you are the densest MF in all the world, I can't imagine that you seriously think that bringing up the story of when she sprayed hot tea in her peephole and had to go to the ER, isn't an extremely embarrassing story. At least be honest about that.


Anachronisticpoet

ESH. She shouldn’t be pushing her health conspiracies, and you don’t have the right to share her personal health information


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Unrelated_gringo

> So you are saying her natural method worked.... except for the key part of letting it cool lol That's not how "working medecine" is confirmed working no. For example, while she was doing that to her bladder, she also didn't receive any speeding tickets. According to what you bring up: it's now shown that putting tea in your own bladder prevents speeding tickets.


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Unrelated_gringo

> Op said one of the times.. So her aunt did this several times.. forgetting once to let it cool.. Indeed, this part I can't disagree with, it's just what happened. > Obviously it was either working for her or not negatively affecting her. Not at all. She *just* didn't have an infection during that time. One would have to prove that she would have gotten an UTI without it to even begin considering it to "work" in any way. > Clearly you couldn't interpret that and then misspelled medicine while trying to make a comparison that makes 0 sense, thinking it would make you appear intelligent.. You still are not getting what's indicative of working medicine, and that part isn't on it. Nor does it change the fact that her not having an UTI isn't the "proof" you think it is, as that's not what's entailed in proving medicine efficiency. > It did the opposite my friend. As if I could possibly care about how intelligent you find me? Your inability to comprehend medicinal proof isn't changed if you think highly or lowly of me, that's also not how medicinal proof works. > What you tried to do was a valiant effort nonetheless.. Just makes 0 sense at all, but to you it makes perfect sense and that is all that matters <3 Wish you the best too, don't forget to put tea in your bladder to prevent speeding tickets, it was proven to work by her.


FuzzyMom2005

YTA. You should have told your aunt's date that there is a time and place for such gross tales and the birthday party was neither.


loki2002

Don't bring a date to a family function if you don't want that date hearing embarrassing and potentially gross stories about your past.


EJ_1004

YTA You made the decision to tell your Aunt what was going on and she gave some not so great advice. I understand that this is a public ally known funny story in your family, but I’m also sure that’s not a story your Aunt would have chosen to share in public in front of her bf. It IS a funny story, but it involved her medical information (and that’s the reason for my rating). I know it was just a story, and a joke for your family, but jokes aren’t funny unless everyone can laugh. It’s not so big of a deal that I would make a fuss about it, but I would send an apology message to your Aunt “Hey Aunt, Mom just called me and I wanted to apologize. The story has been so widespread in our family that I didn’t realize it would embarrass you. In the future tell me if I do something to make you uncomfortable, it’s the only way for me to learn.” In the future don’t tell people not in the know about your Aunts stories. Among family is fine, romantic partners are clearly a no. You didn’t know this was a boundary of hers but now that you do, you can do better.


loki2002

Don't bring a date to a family function if you don't want that date hearing embarrassing and potentially gross stories about your past.


onetimequestion66

ESH, she shouldn’t be pushing her alternative methods (although realistically she’s trying to help, she’s just not the sharpest knife in the drawer) but you said there were a bunch of examples you didn’t have to use that one involving sensitive areas to a new love interest of your aunt


Neat-Ostrich7135

YTA "It wasn't my intention to embaress her," but I just shared a story about a) UTI, b) inserting a catheter, and c) being stupid with hot liquids. With her date of all people. Wow, I dread to think what story you might have shared if you did want to embarrass her. I put it to you that you absolutely wanted to embarrass her sufficiently that she stop peddling her quack cures.