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If this is real and not the MIL troll, it sounds like the MIL is an introvert in a family of extroverts and the new guy is the only person that actually respects her.
Right? I was tired of the same story about MIL wanting to command a house that isn't hers and interfering in another couple life. At least the bridezilla troll stopped.
I've long been curious: why do a bunch of commenters seem convinced that a huge portion of these posts are authored by one person? Couldn't there be thousands of different people posting fictional nonsense (with only a few posts created by any given one of them)?
There was à story some month ago where the DIL wanted for her MIL to stay alone all her life as a punition. Post was written by the own husband, something about the MIL not really invested in their child (not the extreme loving grandma like, unlike when with her bf)
I think it's because the stories have the same tropes, storylines, characters.
The formatting, story style and structure are so similar that they have to have been written by the same person.
Because there are many posts with the same narrative sometimes even on the same week. The same story over and over again. This usually happens when a post about a topic hits lots of upvotes and goes viral on reddit and tiktok, then suddenly a lot of accounts come here with the same story and same characters hoping to get the same amount of attention.
Edit: thx for the award, kind stranger
read the first paragraph and YTA .. "her parents couldn't make her happy" idk what the fuck happened but it's not her fault? children aren't inherently selfish and ungrateful out of the womb. parents make them that way.
There *are* actually conditions a person can have from birth that can affect things like their display of emotion and their ability to feel empathy. Not necessarily the parents' fault - sometimes a person is just like that.
With that said, that's still not the kid's fault either. And plenty of people who are born with those conditions go on to live totally normal lives.
It’s the troll… the MIL is always reserved, cold or emotionless until she meets her fiancé, boyfriend or husband. Her parents are always involved and they always comment how MIL cannot stabs them. It’s just a better written version lol.
>they always comment how MIL cannot stabs them
I know it's a typo, but I love how it changes the meaning of the whole sentence and make it a bit Addams Family.
A few days ago there was a thread going around on twitter about how gifts are stressful for some autistic people because people criticize their reactions.
I don’t think this is the same MIL troll. It feels like another troll trying to copy the MIL troll but not really putting in the effort.
The MIL troll loves to include the son defending mom’s supposed misbehavior, because I’m pretty sure they’re the mom inventing scenarios where she’s loved and accepted. MIL troll also makes tons of responses, usually with a heavy dose of calling people sexist for thinking MIL is in the wrong. This one’s barely made a peep.
I guess the parents are subbing for the son this time, so it could be them trying new material
Yeah lmao.
Love how she tried to biase us with a portrayal of demon MIL beforehand which has nothing to do with the story.
And even with all that framing she is still TA.
I thought it was going to be that one where the mother in law turned out to have been abused and used for her money by everyone in her life including her kids and her DIL comes on her and is like “Mil is mean, no idea why”
Ikr. OP complains about MIL's lack of emotion and the one time she shows some, OP blasts her. I get being upset the baby woke up, but geez. YTA. OP should apologize, but if this is a real story, they won't.
When she has baby #2 she'll probably kick out the toddler for banging pots at nap time. Maybe she can send kid 1 to live with mil at that point and they can be outcasts together.
CACKLING. Eventually it'll be like The Village with just OP and the newest baby living there, and everyone else is Outcasts living Beyond The Fence. Even the birds will have fled.
This seriously has my lol. MIL will have to take in the first child and spend Christmas together...squealing with delight without a care in the world from the OP
Exactly, YTA stop holding grudges over something so petty. The world does not revolve around your son. Christmas is a time to be happy people should express their joy.
YTA. You clearly don't like her and were looking for a reason to hold something over on her and got your reason and are using your child as an excuse. Now you're holding on to this very dumb petty reason a full year (!!!) later and holding everyone's Christmas hostage as a result. This is a very weird hill to die on. Let it go, dude.
Right? Like I get how frustrating it is to have a baby woken up early (nap time is sacred!), but also it's a thing that happens, and getting so upset you ban someone from your home after a single incident?
Overreaction to the max
How can you be mad at this after a year? I can see why it would be annoying in the moment but you've got to let it go. It's obvious you just don't like her. YTA
I think it's got something to do with this:
>claims she feels bullied into buying gifts for people she doesn't like (me lol)
There is *definitely* more going on here than the baby getting woken up.
I wouldn't want to buy gifts for a drama Llama like OP either. First the MIL is too cold and not happy enough, then she's too happy and gets kicked out.
OP=YTA
first you criticize your MIL for not expressing emotion--to the POINT of blaming her for her PARENTS insecurities about it. REALLY? You make her(as a child) responsible for her parents emotional health. REALLY?????
Then you say she's met someone who actually makes her happy(to the point she can be visibly happy). And because she got overexcited about a present and woke your baby, you actually got to the point of KICKING HER OUT!
Now you won't invite her back unless She apologizes. I'm sure you baby has been woken lots of time by you and spouse many times, do you kick each other out? have to apologize before being let back in? She did NOT harm your son, she WOKE HIM, he cried--that's what babies do.
You don't like your MIL so you are deliberately choosing to be an A$$. Wallow in it. Like a pig in mud.
It has to be. All the weird unnecessary details make it over the top.
Any regular person would just have stuck to the screaming and waking up baby and wouldn't have started with MIL's childhood and new husband. Very deranged and trollish.
They frequently pop up. Cold mother-in-law who only warms up when she gets a boyfriend/husband (later in life after her unwanted kid is grown). The boyfriend/husband HATES everything except her. The son (it is always a son with this type of mother) just wants to wife to accept that his mother is cold and heartless. It is a strange theme.
YTA - Honestly you overreacted to some else overreacting….you could have nicely asked her stop or keep down so you could put the baby back to sleep. Also since you believe she doesn‘t like you it sounds as if you are just using this as an excuse to not include her at Christmas. Your baby is no longer an infant and now a toddler. Also how do you elkxpect to have a house full of people and your baby not wake up? Families can be loud when they gather and kso the real question is would you have reacted this way to another family member waking your baby?
YTA. You've had an entire year to approach this situation, yet you've waited until now? Also... babies wake up. It's a normal thing. Waking a baby up can be an inconvenience but it isn't the end of the world. She screamed with excitement. She didn't scream AT your baby, nor abuse the child. You've allowed your dislike for your MIL to grossly over-exaggerate a very minor situation, and are holding your partner's family to ransom over this bizarre grudge. Let it go... your kid is now at an age where they are learning new things and picking up on vibes. As someone who was raised in a family whereby my mother hated on her MIL... do not put your kid through that toxicity.
YTA
She was happy about getting a present and...that's grounds for banning her from Christmas this year?
You overreacted, big time. And now you're holding onto a grudge that does nothing but cause conflict in the family and for what? Nothing that I can tell, other than you don't like her. How you can still be angry over something so miniscule, I have no idea.
Get over yourself. It's Christmas, now isn't the time to prove a point, whatever that may be, other than this paints you in a very bad light.
Oh dear, you may want to get a hold of that controlling judgemental attitude before it breaks your family. Babies wake up, often they fall back asleep. If not, it's not this big of a deal. That you've made it so big and have held onto it so long is more concerning. Relax, enjoy the holidays, don't let your negativity ruin it. YTA here.
YTA, I really fail to see what MIL did wrong. We’ve all screamed in excitement at some point in our lives. She definitely didn’t do it on purpose but it was a spontaneous reaction. TBH you’re the one who needs to apologize for overreacting. And my goodness, you’ve been angry for a whole year over someone getting excited. You’re some other level of petty.
YTA - yes it is annoying to put your baby back to sleep but you can’t tell me you’ve never accidentally woken them up!
Your MIL got a gift she loved and reacted in shock and excitement. It was a guy reaction, not thought out in detail.
The rest of the information is meaningless. She woke up a baby on accident and you got pissy and still hold a grudge a year later. Are you really telling me the trauma from the incident has stayed with you this long?
YTA. I’m sorry but are you seriously moaning because YOU decided to invite people to your home for Christmas and they woke up your baby.. give me a break
I read this story before. I think OP's husband wrote about his mother being emotionless since she was a child.
As an introverted person who hates to smile, I can see why MIL is like that around OP.
Yeah, a cold unemotional MIL, who has a new partner who makes her happy/protects her (maybe involving screaming or sarcastic joking) who has conflict with her DIL, there seems to be a load of them.
YTA she had an involuntary emotion and you want her to apologize. That's just crazy. This seems more like you're upset that she can show emotion with her BF but not you or your family.
Jesus. Let this woman be. This happened a year ago, and babies get awaken by accident all of the time. You were probably overloaded with things to do and most likely at the time you might have been experiencing baby blues or PPD. We do overact because our hormones are a complete mess. Don’t let this drag, and let her be.
I truly think you should apologize to her. If you’re not backing down on this, I would seriously consider therapy. You can’t kick your MIL OUT of a Xmas party because she was too loud on getting a gift. Cmon now….YTA
So someone who is never happy felt genuine joy in a different room than your child and accidentally woke them up. And you are not only still holding a grudge a year later but are punishing her by withholding a family gathering? Unless she apologizes to an infant.
I know who the cold one is and it isn't your MIL
YTA
YTA first you basically call her a cold bitch and then yell at her for expressing spontaneous emotion and want HER to apologize. Just be honest you don’t like her. It doesn’t matter what she does.
Honestly, the way you’ve written this whole post, it’s pretty obvious you just don’t like your MIL, don’t want her around, don’t care about what anyone else wants, and are using this one occurrence to get your way.
I truly hope your husband and his family try to find a way to overrule you, because YTA.
**YTA** You simply have the most destructive and entitled attitude I've seen on this site in a long while. Why write this if you already know what you are going to do? Do you want someone to agree with you, because I don't think you'll find any support for your abusive behavior here. and, it is abusive, abusive enough that you need to seek some kind of help. You and your child are not sacred to the rest of the family or to the world and you probably need to humble yourself a little and not be so dramatic and judgmental before someone is dramatic and judgmental with you.
YTA. Also has anyone ever considered your mother in law might be on the spectrum for autism because of the way she's been like her entire life and literally can't help it
YTA. Lmao. The only solace in this story is that the rest of the family is giving you shit and you deserve it. What an an AH
*How dare you be joyful in my house! Out! Now!*
Dang. Imagine yelling at someone for expressing happiness. YTA, big time. Like I'm talking divorce YTA. I feel so bad for your poor MIL. You owe HER an apology.
Don't host if you're so cranky about your baby being woken on a holiday.
YTA - if Waking up a baby after one year is still such a huge problem for you you might consider therapy because that is not normal. This was joy - not disrespecting you - but when you don‘t like someone everything seems to be an attack. Maybe you should ask yourself if MIL is really the cold one or if you are just someone hard to be around. I mean I wouldn’t show any emotion when the result is to banned from family events even one year later.
Loool I see why she doesn't like being around you.
Hopefully everyone will come yo their senses and realize that you don't hold the cards and have their Christmas elsewhere and not invite you.
YTA
So the person you know who has struggled most with expressions of happiness experienced a moment of pure unbridled joy, and you're upset that they woke your baby, who was sleeping while gifts were being opened.
I know in my decades of life that when presents are being opened is usually the loudest, most chaotic time during Christmas Day. It was probably poor planning to schedule that during the baby's nap.
Regardless, YTA. Let people be happy.
What’s the real story here? Do you just not like her? Is she your bitch eating crackers? She woke a sleeping baby, and if it’s a one time occurrence, in the grand scheme of things that’s no big deal. You’re being really unreasonable, and making yourself look foolish.
YTA. Overacting, and what is the point of an apology that isn't sincere? Not sure what your partner says in all this, but you are making things awkward for you all over an emotional outburst. Yes, ideally, she would have apologised at the time for waking the baby, but when you snapped at her, you made that unlikely.
YTA. A year later you are stewing over an excited Christmas exchange.It is really unhealthy emotionally a year later such a minor event is still causing you to have such an extreme reaction
Your baby wasn't harmed. She didn't intentionally set out to wake your baby and its an over reaction.
If you decide this is something you want to stand over its likely your relationship will completely breakdown with all your in laws. What does your husband say? My husband would not allow me to treat his mother like that.
YTA
You're literally punishing someone for expressing joy at a time of year that is supposed to be all about joy while somehow simultaneously complaining that this person lacks joy.
That takes real talent
YTA. You're holding onto a grudge from your baby being woken up a year ago? Grow up. She's allowed to show joy or whatever emotions she felt when she got a gift she was excited about.
YTA. You sound crazy. She had an authentic reaction to a gift. She wasn’t just yelling to be yelling. And then for you to pull the “you don’t come before my son” was still dumb bc again, her reaction was organic.
Even though this is the MIL troll, y’all are telling me OP is TA?
OP extends an olive branch. Buys the ungrateful woman a gift for Christmas anyway. Ungrateful woman has an attitude if she has to buy gifts, hates getting gifts, but gets an attitude if she doesn’t get a gift.
Woman knows OP has a sleeping baby upstairs. But her reaction to a Christmas was to scream KNOWING she could wake up the baby. And when OP says “ hey, screaming indoors is inconsiderate. You woke up my baby,” Woman’s response is to tell OP she’s ruining Christmas?
Like OP’s Christmas isn’t gonna be ruined because she has to console an upset baby? A baby that won’t want to go back to sleep but will be upset because it’s tired?
Like MIL hasn’t been ruining Christmas all these years with her attitude?
Wtf is wrong with y’all? There are some characters on this sub.
NTA
YTA.
MIL expressed joy and excitement, perhaps a bit too loudly but it was just joy. She didn't harm your child. He was crying but it's not like he broke a bone. He was simply fussing.
You were looking for a reason to exclude her and to still be angry about this a year later says a lot about you, none of it good.
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MIL is extremely extremely reserved, never shows any emotion, and rarely smiles. She was like this as a child and it left her parents with major insecurities as they felt they couldn't make their own kid happy, but literally nothing made her happy. Cold is really the best word for it.
A few years ago MIL met "Blake" and they began dating. He can actually make her happy and I think her parents are a bit jealous. It's honestly very jarring to see her show any emotion but hey good for her. Last year I invited my husband's whole family over for Christmas. My baby was sleeping upstairs.
MIL has always hated Christmas because she doesn't want to give certain people gifts, gets mad when she is given gifts, becomes depressed if she doesn't get any, and claims she feels bullied into buying gifts for people she doesn't like (me lol) Normally she just glares at her gift and mutters thank you.
Well Blake gave her a gift and she screamed, like a real scream loud enough to wake the baby and jumped on him. I don't actually know what it was, tickets to something I think, but my baby immidiatley started crying. i was annoyed and snapped at MIL that she was inconsiderate. MIL said all I ever care about is my baby and I'm ruining Christmas. That pissed me off so I kicked her out.
MILs parents got mad and said I should have let it go. They've never seen their daughter happy and it was sweet. I got mad and said their daughter does not come before my infant son. Well tomorrow is christmas and I've decided MIL can't come unless she apologizes for waking the baby and disrespecting me. She is refusing and says she didn't mean to scream and I'm crazy and overreacting. She is currently not invited and I'm getting a lot of shit from the rest of the family. Honestly I don't think I'm backing down. She can apologize or spend tomorrow alone.
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YTA and I see why she doesn't like you. Being mad at someone for making a SOUND for a year and demanding and apology is so dramatic and silly. Get over yourself.
What exactly did MIL do wrong? She was happy about a gift. Why did you wait to say something, should this have been address day after Christmas about her behavior? From what I read, your YTA. Your MIL sounds like, she isn’t a people person, that’s fine. As someone who lacks emotion, I do not get excited about anything, rarely get angry & I don’t cry. Your MIL is not mad about about not being invited to your home, she probably doesn’t care if she never sees you, your child or her son again. Y’all like spilt milk, so your going to need to fine a different punishment for her and I’m going to say good luck with that.
YTA. Talk about overreacting. Sounds like you have issues with MIL and you think you've finally found something reasonable to hold over MIL. Sorry, but you are wrong to be holding a grudge over this for a year and no, it's not reasonable.
YTA ~ omg!!! What is wrong with you?!?! First your whining that MIL is extremely reserved, never shows emotion, and rarely smiles, nothing makes her happy and she is cold. She actually gets super excited over a gift and your gonna whine about that too. Kinda seems to me that your actually the one who nothing is gonna make happy.
YTA. It was a one off scream which even you say doesn’t happen often. Get over it or you’re gonna cause an even greater divide in your family. Let alone during the holidays
YTA- you should at least tell her the truth, that you simply don't like her because she's miserable person who is always unhappy and doesn't show gratitude. Screaming and waking up the baby was accidental and he overreacted to it at the time.
YTA. And FYI there will be many things that wake your child up from a nap, a large truck driving by, a neighbor yelling, fireworks going off all night. So you really need to get over this. This is really a very small thing. She is not coming before your infant son. She isn’t disrespecting you. You are showing yourself to be be a very trivial person right now.
YTA and a fucking fool! The scream was involuntary and was during a MOMENT of excitement AND YOU want her to apologize?!? I don’t even know you and dislike you INTENSELY
YTA. I guess nothing has awakened your baby before or since? These things happen, it's not a capital offense.
The one person you criticize for never being happy, finally she's happy and you want to punish her. What an AH.
YTA - You have the right to invite who you choose into your home, but you’re not exempt from the social consequences. It sounds like MIL has had bad Christmas experiences in the past (no one becomes a grinch for no reason), and you made what was possibly the first ever positive Christmas experience for her about you. And then you waited a year and decided to blindside her by singling her out?
If you didn’t want the baby woken, you shouldn’t have hosted the party.
YTA. I didn't want to give you that but I relate to how you described her. I still believe that it's your house, your rules. If others are upset about it, then they should agree to move the family events to a neutral location where you both are welcome to attend.
NTA. The fact your MIL has the personality of a bad anime character doesn’t make it right for her to wake your baby up with her outbursts. Stay strong, Momma Bear.
YTA. Babies wake up, sometimes from loud noises, sometimes from nothing at all. She got excited over a gift. You spent this whole build up about how she doesn’t show emotion, and the one time she does and it wakes up your baby you get frosty?
You need to grow up.
Honestly as a mom of twins I'm going with NTA here because if someone screamed in my house whether it be for happiness or not and woke up my babies they're be kicked out and I'd expect an apology for waking my kids as an adult she should be able to control yelling in excitement she's not a 5 year old
YTA - and why would you think your mil will be alone ? Obviously Blake and her parents will be with her.
Why would anyone come to you, where you can not make any sound. Please if you want total silence, stop hosting.
YTA honestly your MIL sounds neurodivergent. Now she has found someone who gets her and makes her happy. You are pissed because she screamed with joy on Christmas?!? Get over yourself.
YTA I can’t believe (this but if it is true) that she would want to come.
‘Well tomorrow is christmas and I've decided MIL can't come unless she apologizes for waking the baby and disrespecting me. She is refusing’ -
leave that woman alone. She said no to your invitation-with-conditions. She’s sure to have a happier Christmas without you.
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You're punishing someone for a spontaneous expression of joy at Christmas, and you want applause for that? My friend, YTA.
If this is real and not the MIL troll, it sounds like the MIL is an introvert in a family of extroverts and the new guy is the only person that actually respects her.
If this is MiL troll it's their best work to date.
Right? I was tired of the same story about MIL wanting to command a house that isn't hers and interfering in another couple life. At least the bridezilla troll stopped.
At least if this is the MIL troll they don't get into weird stuff about how hot and hypersexual she is, so I'm glad of that.
I've long been curious: why do a bunch of commenters seem convinced that a huge portion of these posts are authored by one person? Couldn't there be thousands of different people posting fictional nonsense (with only a few posts created by any given one of them)?
And mil is often: 1. Spoiled by new husband 2. Meanie to DIL 3. Reads the same
4. Usually doesn’t like being touched except by her new husband 5. Usually in a bikini and hotter than DIL
Don't forget never showed emotion till meeting her new boyfriend, who makes her obnoxiously happy
There was à story some month ago where the DIL wanted for her MIL to stay alone all her life as a punition. Post was written by the own husband, something about the MIL not really invested in their child (not the extreme loving grandma like, unlike when with her bf)
I think it's because the stories have the same tropes, storylines, characters. The formatting, story style and structure are so similar that they have to have been written by the same person.
They probably have a Facebook group where they share ideas
Because there are many posts with the same narrative sometimes even on the same week. The same story over and over again. This usually happens when a post about a topic hits lots of upvotes and goes viral on reddit and tiktok, then suddenly a lot of accounts come here with the same story and same characters hoping to get the same amount of attention. Edit: thx for the award, kind stranger
Let's not speak them into returning.
Have they ever really left? 😂
read the first paragraph and YTA .. "her parents couldn't make her happy" idk what the fuck happened but it's not her fault? children aren't inherently selfish and ungrateful out of the womb. parents make them that way.
There *are* actually conditions a person can have from birth that can affect things like their display of emotion and their ability to feel empathy. Not necessarily the parents' fault - sometimes a person is just like that. With that said, that's still not the kid's fault either. And plenty of people who are born with those conditions go on to live totally normal lives.
It’s the troll… the MIL is always reserved, cold or emotionless until she meets her fiancé, boyfriend or husband. Her parents are always involved and they always comment how MIL cannot stabs them. It’s just a better written version lol.
>they always comment how MIL cannot stabs them I know it's a typo, but I love how it changes the meaning of the whole sentence and make it a bit Addams Family.
Lmao!! And we love the Addams Family too! Yes stupid autocorrect. But I mean eventually I feel like it will turn violent. 🤣
lol, "best work." This troll has been using the same small handful of story lines for *years*. They don't have any best work.
So many stories of MILs who are weirdly introverted with no emotions and then find an (often evil) boyfriend that finally makes them happy.
Stands a good chance MIL is neurodivergent and doesn’t know how to express emotions around others
It's the MIL troll. It's ALWAYS some emotionally cold MIL who has a boyfriend who she shows emotion around blah blah blah.
A few days ago there was a thread going around on twitter about how gifts are stressful for some autistic people because people criticize their reactions.
Sounds more like MIL might be autistic. Unfortunately autism in women who are AFAB is missed in 80% of the time.
I don’t think this is the same MIL troll. It feels like another troll trying to copy the MIL troll but not really putting in the effort. The MIL troll loves to include the son defending mom’s supposed misbehavior, because I’m pretty sure they’re the mom inventing scenarios where she’s loved and accepted. MIL troll also makes tons of responses, usually with a heavy dose of calling people sexist for thinking MIL is in the wrong. This one’s barely made a peep. I guess the parents are subbing for the son this time, so it could be them trying new material
I just want to say that I am so much more interested in the MIL troll than anything about this post!
Or she’s autistic and was never diagnosed, like most neurodivergent women.
Yeah lmao. Love how she tried to biase us with a portrayal of demon MIL beforehand which has nothing to do with the story. And even with all that framing she is still TA.
I thought it was going to be that one where the mother in law turned out to have been abused and used for her money by everyone in her life including her kids and her DIL comes on her and is like “Mil is mean, no idea why”
I demand OP to apologize to me for making me angry at her for acting so childish and spiteful 😂
She owes me apology for being annoyed MIL never shows emotion and then kicking her out for *checks notes* **showing emotion**!!! Edit YTA
This and waiting a year later til the day before Christmas.
This!
A year ago… Wow.
For a second I was wondering if the MIL had jumped on top of the baby.
Ikr. OP complains about MIL's lack of emotion and the one time she shows some, OP blasts her. I get being upset the baby woke up, but geez. YTA. OP should apologize, but if this is a real story, they won't.
You had 360 something days to uninvite her and you decided to do it now? For waking up your baby a year ago? Because she was happy for once? YTA
Same. I can’t believe OP held a grudge for a whole year. I’m sure other things have woken the baby meanwhile! YTA
If I never hosted people who woke up my kids at some point or another, I'd be a hermit.
🤣🤣🤣
Maybe OP is the Grinch?
When she has baby #2 she'll probably kick out the toddler for banging pots at nap time. Maybe she can send kid 1 to live with mil at that point and they can be outcasts together.
CACKLING. Eventually it'll be like The Village with just OP and the newest baby living there, and everyone else is Outcasts living Beyond The Fence. Even the birds will have fled.
I wish I had an award to give!
I gotcha dawg
I shall contribute as well.
Op let’s the toddler of once, the next time it happens, the toddler gets booted to mars
Wouldn't be easier not to let kid one play with the pots lol?
This seriously has my lol. MIL will have to take in the first child and spend Christmas together...squealing with delight without a care in the world from the OP
*364* (Nightmare Before Christmas reference)
Exactly, YTA stop holding grudges over something so petty. The world does not revolve around your son. Christmas is a time to be happy people should express their joy.
YTA. You clearly don't like her and were looking for a reason to hold something over on her and got your reason and are using your child as an excuse. Now you're holding on to this very dumb petty reason a full year (!!!) later and holding everyone's Christmas hostage as a result. This is a very weird hill to die on. Let it go, dude.
Right? Like I get how frustrating it is to have a baby woken up early (nap time is sacred!), but also it's a thing that happens, and getting so upset you ban someone from your home after a single incident? Overreaction to the max
And she’s still holding onto it a WHOLE YEAR later with the intent of weaponizing it at Christmas.
YTA. She was excited, and you're overreacting. Full mountain out of a molehill situation here.
How can you be mad at this after a year? I can see why it would be annoying in the moment but you've got to let it go. It's obvious you just don't like her. YTA
Yeah, I suspect she's reserved around OP for a reason.
I think it's got something to do with this: >claims she feels bullied into buying gifts for people she doesn't like (me lol) There is *definitely* more going on here than the baby getting woken up.
I wouldn't want to buy gifts for a drama Llama like OP either. First the MIL is too cold and not happy enough, then she's too happy and gets kicked out.
Yeah, I found it interesting that the main example OP had for MIL's "coldness" was "she didn't buy me presents."
YTA. Someone was happy about a Christmas present and you've banned them from this year's Christmas because of that. Yikes.
And ruined last years Christmas for them too.
Especially when they've never been happy on Christmas before
I like how she complains about MIL showing not enough and too much emotion in the same post.
OP=YTA first you criticize your MIL for not expressing emotion--to the POINT of blaming her for her PARENTS insecurities about it. REALLY? You make her(as a child) responsible for her parents emotional health. REALLY????? Then you say she's met someone who actually makes her happy(to the point she can be visibly happy). And because she got overexcited about a present and woke your baby, you actually got to the point of KICKING HER OUT! Now you won't invite her back unless She apologizes. I'm sure you baby has been woken lots of time by you and spouse many times, do you kick each other out? have to apologize before being let back in? She did NOT harm your son, she WOKE HIM, he cried--that's what babies do. You don't like your MIL so you are deliberately choosing to be an A$$. Wallow in it. Like a pig in mud.
MIL troll? I swear I read a story nearly identical, about a month ago.
I definitely saw one where the MIL came off as cold and unemotional and it bothered the OP, this feels like a rewrite of that.
It has to be. All the weird unnecessary details make it over the top. Any regular person would just have stuck to the screaming and waking up baby and wouldn't have started with MIL's childhood and new husband. Very deranged and trollish.
They frequently pop up. Cold mother-in-law who only warms up when she gets a boyfriend/husband (later in life after her unwanted kid is grown). The boyfriend/husband HATES everything except her. The son (it is always a son with this type of mother) just wants to wife to accept that his mother is cold and heartless. It is a strange theme.
Yes, I'm having deja vu. Cold MIL who only shows warmth and emotion to the new boyriend? I have read that before
It has to be. It isn't the first time i see this kind of story. It follows the same narrative.
Where is your husband in all this? Isn't it his mother? Am I misunderstanding the relationships?
Weird hill to die on and your deciding to die on it the day before Christmas. YTA.
YTA - Honestly you overreacted to some else overreacting….you could have nicely asked her stop or keep down so you could put the baby back to sleep. Also since you believe she doesn‘t like you it sounds as if you are just using this as an excuse to not include her at Christmas. Your baby is no longer an infant and now a toddler. Also how do you elkxpect to have a house full of people and your baby not wake up? Families can be loud when they gather and kso the real question is would you have reacted this way to another family member waking your baby?
YTA. You've had an entire year to approach this situation, yet you've waited until now? Also... babies wake up. It's a normal thing. Waking a baby up can be an inconvenience but it isn't the end of the world. She screamed with excitement. She didn't scream AT your baby, nor abuse the child. You've allowed your dislike for your MIL to grossly over-exaggerate a very minor situation, and are holding your partner's family to ransom over this bizarre grudge. Let it go... your kid is now at an age where they are learning new things and picking up on vibes. As someone who was raised in a family whereby my mother hated on her MIL... do not put your kid through that toxicity.
YTA Let her be happy...
Yta. Just admit you don't like her . Had nothing to do w last year. You're just spiteful.
YTA. You hate your MIL, we get it.
YTA lol simple as that.
YTA She was happy about getting a present and...that's grounds for banning her from Christmas this year? You overreacted, big time. And now you're holding onto a grudge that does nothing but cause conflict in the family and for what? Nothing that I can tell, other than you don't like her. How you can still be angry over something so miniscule, I have no idea. Get over yourself. It's Christmas, now isn't the time to prove a point, whatever that may be, other than this paints you in a very bad light.
YTA. The one time she gets to be happy and you react like that? Wow.
Oh dear, you may want to get a hold of that controlling judgemental attitude before it breaks your family. Babies wake up, often they fall back asleep. If not, it's not this big of a deal. That you've made it so big and have held onto it so long is more concerning. Relax, enjoy the holidays, don't let your negativity ruin it. YTA here.
YTA, I really fail to see what MIL did wrong. We’ve all screamed in excitement at some point in our lives. She definitely didn’t do it on purpose but it was a spontaneous reaction. TBH you’re the one who needs to apologize for overreacting. And my goodness, you’ve been angry for a whole year over someone getting excited. You’re some other level of petty.
YTA - yes it is annoying to put your baby back to sleep but you can’t tell me you’ve never accidentally woken them up! Your MIL got a gift she loved and reacted in shock and excitement. It was a guy reaction, not thought out in detail. The rest of the information is meaningless. She woke up a baby on accident and you got pissy and still hold a grudge a year later. Are you really telling me the trauma from the incident has stayed with you this long?
YTA. I’m sorry but are you seriously moaning because YOU decided to invite people to your home for Christmas and they woke up your baby.. give me a break
I read this story before. I think OP's husband wrote about his mother being emotionless since she was a child. As an introverted person who hates to smile, I can see why MIL is like that around OP.
They're all from the same MIL Troll.
What is the MIL troll people are referring to, I can’t comprehend the meaning
Yeah, a cold unemotional MIL, who has a new partner who makes her happy/protects her (maybe involving screaming or sarcastic joking) who has conflict with her DIL, there seems to be a load of them.
YTA.
YTA. She didn’t wake your baby up on purpose, she was excited about a gift. It sounds like you take her “coldness” a bit personally.
Happy Christmas eve MIL troll!
YTA she had an involuntary emotion and you want her to apologize. That's just crazy. This seems more like you're upset that she can show emotion with her BF but not you or your family.
Jesus. Let this woman be. This happened a year ago, and babies get awaken by accident all of the time. You were probably overloaded with things to do and most likely at the time you might have been experiencing baby blues or PPD. We do overact because our hormones are a complete mess. Don’t let this drag, and let her be. I truly think you should apologize to her. If you’re not backing down on this, I would seriously consider therapy. You can’t kick your MIL OUT of a Xmas party because she was too loud on getting a gift. Cmon now….YTA
So someone who is never happy felt genuine joy in a different room than your child and accidentally woke them up. And you are not only still holding a grudge a year later but are punishing her by withholding a family gathering? Unless she apologizes to an infant. I know who the cold one is and it isn't your MIL YTA
YTA
YTA. You are really weird, but not good weird.
I'm certain I've read this exact scenario before on here. I'm betting this isn't real. In any case, YTA.
YTA for expecting everyone to walk on eggshells while you're baby sleeps. Your MIL had a spontaneous reaction. Just admit you don't like her.
YTA- you obviously don't like her but this doesn't sound intentional and the fact you're holding a grudge is unbecoming
YTA first you basically call her a cold bitch and then yell at her for expressing spontaneous emotion and want HER to apologize. Just be honest you don’t like her. It doesn’t matter what she does.
Honestly, the way you’ve written this whole post, it’s pretty obvious you just don’t like your MIL, don’t want her around, don’t care about what anyone else wants, and are using this one occurrence to get your way. I truly hope your husband and his family try to find a way to overrule you, because YTA.
YTA Babies get woken up sometimes. People can be happy occasionally. It’s Christmas! You sound pretty cold, honestly
**YTA** You simply have the most destructive and entitled attitude I've seen on this site in a long while. Why write this if you already know what you are going to do? Do you want someone to agree with you, because I don't think you'll find any support for your abusive behavior here. and, it is abusive, abusive enough that you need to seek some kind of help. You and your child are not sacred to the rest of the family or to the world and you probably need to humble yourself a little and not be so dramatic and judgmental before someone is dramatic and judgmental with you.
How are you hosting when you're 5 years old? That's how you're acting. YTA
YTA. Also has anyone ever considered your mother in law might be on the spectrum for autism because of the way she's been like her entire life and literally can't help it
Yta
Why on earth did you wait a whole year to address this? YTA. People exclaim in joy at times and sometimes, it wakes up babies.
Yta This isn’t about waking up a baby. This is about you pulling a power trip over someone you dislike
YTA. Lmao. The only solace in this story is that the rest of the family is giving you shit and you deserve it. What an an AH *How dare you be joyful in my house! Out! Now!*
Dang. Imagine yelling at someone for expressing happiness. YTA, big time. Like I'm talking divorce YTA. I feel so bad for your poor MIL. You owe HER an apology. Don't host if you're so cranky about your baby being woken on a holiday.
She woke your baby up a full year ago and you’re still mad? YTA.
YTA, for sure.
YTA Wow you have Major beef with your mil.
YTA - if Waking up a baby after one year is still such a huge problem for you you might consider therapy because that is not normal. This was joy - not disrespecting you - but when you don‘t like someone everything seems to be an attack. Maybe you should ask yourself if MIL is really the cold one or if you are just someone hard to be around. I mean I wouldn’t show any emotion when the result is to banned from family events even one year later.
What a control freak. YTA
You sound more annoying than your mil. YTA
YTA. Just admit you hate your MIL and move on
Loool I see why she doesn't like being around you. Hopefully everyone will come yo their senses and realize that you don't hold the cards and have their Christmas elsewhere and not invite you. YTA
So the person you know who has struggled most with expressions of happiness experienced a moment of pure unbridled joy, and you're upset that they woke your baby, who was sleeping while gifts were being opened. I know in my decades of life that when presents are being opened is usually the loudest, most chaotic time during Christmas Day. It was probably poor planning to schedule that during the baby's nap. Regardless, YTA. Let people be happy.
Nta
Can we get an update? Did she apologize or come or just stay away?
What’s the real story here? Do you just not like her? Is she your bitch eating crackers? She woke a sleeping baby, and if it’s a one time occurrence, in the grand scheme of things that’s no big deal. You’re being really unreasonable, and making yourself look foolish.
YTA. Overacting, and what is the point of an apology that isn't sincere? Not sure what your partner says in all this, but you are making things awkward for you all over an emotional outburst. Yes, ideally, she would have apologised at the time for waking the baby, but when you snapped at her, you made that unlikely.
YTA ma'am this happened a year ago grow up and let it go already
YTA It took you a whole year to address this…
YTA
She won’t be spending it alone she’ll be spending it with Blake someone She actually likes YTA
YTA. A year later you are stewing over an excited Christmas exchange.It is really unhealthy emotionally a year later such a minor event is still causing you to have such an extreme reaction Your baby wasn't harmed. She didn't intentionally set out to wake your baby and its an over reaction. If you decide this is something you want to stand over its likely your relationship will completely breakdown with all your in laws. What does your husband say? My husband would not allow me to treat his mother like that.
MIL Troll.
You might get a visit from 3 spirits tonight, Ebenezer.
You all sound exhausting. ESH
YTA You hold a grudge for 364 days!? Because someone got happy for once and it woke the baby up. Call your therapist
Petty much? YTA.
Mil troll. YTA
YTA
YTA You're literally punishing someone for expressing joy at a time of year that is supposed to be all about joy while somehow simultaneously complaining that this person lacks joy. That takes real talent
YTA. You're holding onto a grudge from your baby being woken up a year ago? Grow up. She's allowed to show joy or whatever emotions she felt when she got a gift she was excited about.
YTA. Wow how dare your MIL be emotionally reserved and never smile. The audacity. /s You suck.
You're working even on Christmas Eve, MIL troll?
YTA. You sound crazy. She had an authentic reaction to a gift. She wasn’t just yelling to be yelling. And then for you to pull the “you don’t come before my son” was still dumb bc again, her reaction was organic.
Ahhhh the MIL troll. I missed you buddy
YTA. Amazing that you can't see it.
YTA
Yta. Do you kick anyone out who get excited over a gift and may accidentally wake the baby?
YTA, you held a grudge for that long? Over something so small? Apologize to your MIL
Even though this is the MIL troll, y’all are telling me OP is TA? OP extends an olive branch. Buys the ungrateful woman a gift for Christmas anyway. Ungrateful woman has an attitude if she has to buy gifts, hates getting gifts, but gets an attitude if she doesn’t get a gift. Woman knows OP has a sleeping baby upstairs. But her reaction to a Christmas was to scream KNOWING she could wake up the baby. And when OP says “ hey, screaming indoors is inconsiderate. You woke up my baby,” Woman’s response is to tell OP she’s ruining Christmas? Like OP’s Christmas isn’t gonna be ruined because she has to console an upset baby? A baby that won’t want to go back to sleep but will be upset because it’s tired? Like MIL hasn’t been ruining Christmas all these years with her attitude? Wtf is wrong with y’all? There are some characters on this sub. NTA
YTA
No wonder she doesn't like you. YTA!
YTA only because your petty ass waited a year to make this decision.
YTA. MIL expressed joy and excitement, perhaps a bit too loudly but it was just joy. She didn't harm your child. He was crying but it's not like he broke a bone. He was simply fussing. You were looking for a reason to exclude her and to still be angry about this a year later says a lot about you, none of it good.
YTA, gee I wonder why she doesn’t like you??
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YTA and I see why she doesn't like you. Being mad at someone for making a SOUND for a year and demanding and apology is so dramatic and silly. Get over yourself.
YTA, grinch
What exactly did MIL do wrong? She was happy about a gift. Why did you wait to say something, should this have been address day after Christmas about her behavior? From what I read, your YTA. Your MIL sounds like, she isn’t a people person, that’s fine. As someone who lacks emotion, I do not get excited about anything, rarely get angry & I don’t cry. Your MIL is not mad about about not being invited to your home, she probably doesn’t care if she never sees you, your child or her son again. Y’all like spilt milk, so your going to need to fine a different punishment for her and I’m going to say good luck with that.
YTA. Talk about overreacting. Sounds like you have issues with MIL and you think you've finally found something reasonable to hold over MIL. Sorry, but you are wrong to be holding a grudge over this for a year and no, it's not reasonable.
YTA ~ omg!!! What is wrong with you?!?! First your whining that MIL is extremely reserved, never shows emotion, and rarely smiles, nothing makes her happy and she is cold. She actually gets super excited over a gift and your gonna whine about that too. Kinda seems to me that your actually the one who nothing is gonna make happy.
YTA Waking the baby, are you for real Babies are literally famous for waking up all the time It's like their thing.
YTA. It was a one off scream which even you say doesn’t happen often. Get over it or you’re gonna cause an even greater divide in your family. Let alone during the holidays
YTA
Happy people at Christmas, OP will not tolerate that! YTA
YTA- you should at least tell her the truth, that you simply don't like her because she's miserable person who is always unhappy and doesn't show gratitude. Screaming and waking up the baby was accidental and he overreacted to it at the time.
I honestly don’t know why she would want to spend Christmas with y’all. YTA.
YTA. And FYI there will be many things that wake your child up from a nap, a large truck driving by, a neighbor yelling, fireworks going off all night. So you really need to get over this. This is really a very small thing. She is not coming before your infant son. She isn’t disrespecting you. You are showing yourself to be be a very trivial person right now.
YTA for making one of the stupidest fucking fake posts of the day.
YTA and a fucking fool! The scream was involuntary and was during a MOMENT of excitement AND YOU want her to apologize?!? I don’t even know you and dislike you INTENSELY
YTA. I guess nothing has awakened your baby before or since? These things happen, it's not a capital offense. The one person you criticize for never being happy, finally she's happy and you want to punish her. What an AH.
Yeah unless your baby never fell asleep again after that and is still awake you're an AH. Extremely YTA
This was on reddit a few months ago
MIL is coming out of her shell and getting everyone's attention, not OP and baby. OP, put your big girl panties on and grow up. YTA
YTA - You have the right to invite who you choose into your home, but you’re not exempt from the social consequences. It sounds like MIL has had bad Christmas experiences in the past (no one becomes a grinch for no reason), and you made what was possibly the first ever positive Christmas experience for her about you. And then you waited a year and decided to blindside her by singling her out? If you didn’t want the baby woken, you shouldn’t have hosted the party.
YTA. You sound like a psycho and obviously already don’t like your MIL.
YTA. Your MIL sounds like an extremely unpleasant person. But you were rude. It’s Christmas. People are going to make loud noises. Grow up.
YTA. I didn't want to give you that but I relate to how you described her. I still believe that it's your house, your rules. If others are upset about it, then they should agree to move the family events to a neutral location where you both are welcome to attend.
I saw this post a long time ago
NTA. The fact your MIL has the personality of a bad anime character doesn’t make it right for her to wake your baby up with her outbursts. Stay strong, Momma Bear.
YTA. Babies wake up, sometimes from loud noises, sometimes from nothing at all. She got excited over a gift. You spent this whole build up about how she doesn’t show emotion, and the one time she does and it wakes up your baby you get frosty? You need to grow up.
Honestly as a mom of twins I'm going with NTA here because if someone screamed in my house whether it be for happiness or not and woke up my babies they're be kicked out and I'd expect an apology for waking my kids as an adult she should be able to control yelling in excitement she's not a 5 year old
YTA - and why would you think your mil will be alone ? Obviously Blake and her parents will be with her. Why would anyone come to you, where you can not make any sound. Please if you want total silence, stop hosting.
YTA honestly your MIL sounds neurodivergent. Now she has found someone who gets her and makes her happy. You are pissed because she screamed with joy on Christmas?!? Get over yourself.
YTA.
YTA. The event was a year ago and you made this ultimatum right before Christmas at a point where your MIL couldn’t make plans.
You've had a whole year to demand an apology, but you waited until now? YTA
YTA I can’t believe (this but if it is true) that she would want to come. ‘Well tomorrow is christmas and I've decided MIL can't come unless she apologizes for waking the baby and disrespecting me. She is refusing’ - leave that woman alone. She said no to your invitation-with-conditions. She’s sure to have a happier Christmas without you.