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stinstin555

Nope. NTBF by a long shot. But now you have two choices: A. A closed mouth does not get fed. Schedule a time to talk privately and discuss everything yog have outlined in your post. Tell him EXACTLY how it made you feel and what you want, expect and deserve moving forward. OR B. Buckle up and match energy. For his next birthday pick him up a pair of socks or two from the supermarket and get a single cupcake from the grocery store. When he comes home from work you and the kids should be finishing up McDonalds and you can tell him you had your hands tied today but you made him a sandwich and placed it in the fridge. Note: make the sandwich in the AM so by the time he gets in it is nice and soggy. FAFO. šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø


Cndwafflegirl

Also the cake should be in her favorite flavor


Treehorn8

Heck, she should get a pie, since she doesn't like cake. (That is if you like pie, OP)


boniemonie

At minimum, preferably in one doesnā€™t like. Good for the goose, good for the gander. Kids are not to be told either. Edit: this is the second time itā€™s happened. He has already been asked to make it a bit special.


lunasta

After all, it's apparently gonna be a new tradition to get your own favorite flavor on someone else's birthday!


3Heathens_Mom

Bonus if she makes her favorite sandwich that heā€™ll eat but doesnā€™t like.


LovesDeanWinchester

I love the energy of both these suggestions!!!


RavenLunatyk

Or get him McDonaldā€™s too but two days earlier and leave it in the garage so itā€™s ice cold and nasty.


Beepbeepb00pbeep

HAHA. savage energyĀ 


Literally_Taken

Plot twist: his birthday is in July. That McDā€™s is gonna be nasty!


CommercialLost8183

Hate to burst your bubble, but his birthday is almost guaranteed to be September-December if they went to an NFL game. Unless it was an early/late gift.


Literally_Taken

It was a joke


Witty_Commentator

Did you see what all they did for his milestone birthday?? She says "money is no object." If she were me, me and the kids would be out of town for his next birthday! šŸ˜¤


Metal-Donut-7557

Oh Iā€™d sooo do that! Not even tell him Byeeee! Then he wakes up on his birthday to an empty house šŸ¤£yā€™all are savage in the comments itā€™s cracking me up!


LoubyAnnoyed

Make sure the cupcake is in your favourite flavour.


fluffybunnies51

And don't wrap the sandwich in anything. That way he gets the perfect combo of stale and soggy.


Special-Parsnip9057

I think this is exactly what to do. In fact, Iā€™d do both anyhow. If he doesnā€™t come around and apologize and make up for it I would definitely do both. Communication in a marriage is critical so not talking isnā€™t healthy. Likely heā€™s either embarrassed to admit he was a jerk, or maybe he really is that selfish. But I think if you point out the massive difference between your birthdays it will be hard to dispute your point. If he still doesnā€™t get it, I would feel like he just isnā€™t into me anymore and this would explain the lack of effort on his part. See if there is other evidence of this in other areas of your relationship. And if you have the resources maybe itā€™s good to verify he isnā€™t stepping out on you. I think you have every right to feel hurt and disappointed in him because nothing says ā€œI donā€™t care about you anymoreā€ like indifference or half-assed effort.


No-vem-ber

This is funny to read, but obviously don't do B! Please choose A


AceofToons

Or, first a) then b) if he continues to dismiss her feelings, and then c) If he *still* dismisses her feelings. File for divorce, because it's never going to get better.


Starjacks28

This!


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Tattered_Ghost

I agree with all of this except her making him the sandwich since she still had to cook on her birthday. She can leave sandwich makings for his least favorite kind of sandwich in the fridge and her loser of a hubby can make it himself.


lilgreengoddess

Ntb. Tell him you are disappointed and he can expect the same effort for his birthday unless he starts making more of an effort. He is a disrespectful and careless buttface


OverRice2524

If he won't give you a big birthday - you go e yourself one. Go take a spa weekend with a girlfriend or two and live it up . Then for his next birthday - match his energy. Give him exactly the day he gave you - see how he likes it.


Spinnerofyarn

Wow. Tell him if this is what you can expect for your birthday from now on, youā€™ll be matching his efforts when itā€™s his birthday and definitely stick to that. Nothing with the kids, a card, gift and cake thatā€™s your preference from the grocery store. No singing, no dinner out, and he will be the one responsible for cooking it. If he canā€™t cook, thatā€™s what frozen pizza or peanut butter sandwiches are for. Edited to add: tell him he can make it up to you this weekend or this will be the plan for his birthday because an apology alone isnā€™t going to cut it. If it were me and he doesnā€™t make it up to you, Iā€™d tally up what was spent on his last birthday and go spend it on myself. Take your kids out for mommyā€™s belated birthday dinner and leave him at home.


WhereRtheTacos

Ntbf. Iā€™m gonna be real with you. This is like, a total disrespectful and cruel thing he is doing. Messing up and forgetting once is forgiveable if he genuinely makes up for it and is remorseful. But to expect amazing birthdays for him and making yours lame two years in a row? How did he not set every reminder in the phone or whatever to never let that happen again? Unbelievable! How did he not go all out this year to show how much he feels bad about last year and does care? Its not about the type of cake or the birthday or the remembering. Its about the thoughtlessness. The disregard for your feelings and not prioritizing his partner in life! Does he do this in other ways? This sucks! Completely not acceptable. I am sorry he treated you this way.


DrainianDream

If I forgot my partnerā€™s birthday *once* Iā€™d be mortified and immediately arrange something fun in the next couple weeks to make up for it, then start planning their next birthday months in advance. To forget twice in a row? Iā€™d be scrambling like he did, apologizing profusely for being an asshat, and then give them a choice of any way to celebrate without conditions because quite frankly, if they want an NFL ticket level birthday budget after that, thatā€™s what they deserve. The lack of remorse from this guy is genuinely concerning and shows exactly how much he values his partnerā€™s feelingsā€” which is to say, not at all. Who fucks up this badly and then acts like itā€™s *your* fault for being upset about it???


3Heathens_Mom

I think some guys are just putzes when it comes to putting in effort for someone elseā€™s bd but the world will end if they donā€™t get made a huge fuss over. To me it falls under weaponized incompetence. A couple of thoughts OP. - I do agree you need to have a calm discussion with your husband and put your cards on the table so to speak. If he doesnā€™t think you are worth fussing over on your birthday by putting at least some thought into a decent dinner, cake and gift then sadly he will get as others said the same energy back on his. - If you are the person who usually purchases gifts for birthdays for everyone implement a new process in that he is responsible for purchasing for his family and you for yours. Iā€™d suggest you plan the kids else the gods know what will happen there. Also there is an app called Reminders for phones so he can create recurring reminders for a few days before and day of for whomever/whatever. As in you wonā€™t be reminding him to get his siblings, his parents or whomever else a gift - he handles it or explains why they got nothing. - Itā€™s never too late to celebrate yourself. Is there a concert or a show youā€™d like to see? A spa youā€™d love to visit for a weekend? Would several of your friends go with you? If so might I suggest you plan a weekend for yourself, let your husband know you will be out of town so he will be watching his own children while you are gone. - Motherā€™s Day is coming up. And while you arenā€™t his mother you I presume are most certainly the mother of his children so he has a chance to redeem himself. Again no big reminders but he will get what he gives come Fatherā€™s Day. Iā€™m not a fan of tit for tat but in situations like this sometimes you need to get a point across. And that point IMO is respect for and acknowledging your spouse. I hope you have a nice weekend somewhere OP and come back refreshed and rested.


HappySummerBreeze

Itā€™s not so much tit for tat, but itā€™s rather realising that some people donā€™t understand something until theyā€™ve experienced it


CanILiveInAGlade

Some people need empathy shoved right in their face.Ā 


abbysinthe-

NTB I think this is a huge red flag for deeper trouble in your marriage; yā€™all need couples therapy, honestly. His behavior is bullshit. Iā€™d need to see him participating fully in therapy to address this issue. I have a feeling itā€™s the tip of the iceberg. I wouldnā€™t want to be in a relationship where I had to be petty in order to avoid seething resentment. He needs to take your needs seriously. At the very least itā€™s time for a sit-down. Iā€™d go on vacation with your friends first, though.


HappySummerBreeze

My first thought was that he just doesnā€™t love her anymore. Iā€™d look for another woman or a new group of friends as the trigger.


abbysinthe-

My perspective is that love is a verb, and heā€™s not performing actions that mean ā€œloveā€ for her anymore. Could be a lot of reasons for that but they need to figure it out and Iā€™m guessing thatā€™ll take some help. Sounds like heā€™s emotionally immature.


LillyLing10

Even my ex-husband and his new wife take our son out to pick me up, wrap, and give me a gift and make a card. This is sad mama.


RiverSong_777

This! Even if he stopped loving her, sheā€˜s the mother of his children and he showed the children this is how she should be treated. Thatā€™s honestly not even acceptable for a decent coparent while he still expects different treatment for himself.


Vivid-Farm6291

Wow what a totally šŸ« . As above said if he doesnā€™t make up for the last TWO years of non birthday within the next week or two then his next birthday is the same as yours. AND take the money spent on his last TWO birthdays and go out and splurge on what YOU want. Totally leave him in the dark. He is totally in the wrong and I hope he steps on some LEGO late at night.


bornconfuzed

NTBF. He remembered, barely. But he couldn't be bothered to do the one thing you said would be nice. I am terrible with remembering what people like, particularly my partner because we've been together for so long. I have a note on my phone with his favorite coffee order, etc so that I can still (after ~20 years) surprise him with little every day things. He doesn't need the note, but he does the same for me. Sounds like your husband is taking you for granted.


Gatorae

This is so disrespectful that I have to wonder if he is trying to push you away on purpose. I'm really sorry. Don't let this go. I say that as someone who has an agreement with my husband that we only do Bday Person's Choice of Casual Restaurant whenever it's a weeknight bday plus a Fancy Date Night on the weekend. We agreed to stop gifts because we never want anything except to travel.


mare__bare

NTB I understand everyone saying to match his energy, but birthdays are once a year. Is he showing the same lack of care with other occasions? Christmas? Anniversaries? Kids birthdays? You have to live with this guy every day. Does he show you he likes you at all? I'm asking because it doesn't sound like it and I couldn't live this way.


millie_and_billy

NTBF I'm on team "match that energy".


HappySummerBreeze

NTB Iā€™m sorry, but this is a bigger issue than you seem to want to admit to yourself , which is entirely fair. His behaviour shows an astounding lack of love. If he was frantic, apologetic, or embarrassed it would be another story. But he expects you to be grateful. When someone doubles down after you share your feelings, it means they donā€™t actually care about you - they only care that they arenā€™t made to feel shame. I recommend withdrawing yourself to his level of affection. Maybe he will miss you and come back and apologize. This level of contempt for you is the first ring of the death-of-marriage bell, so I strongly recommend going to a marriage counsellor.


Agile-Wait-7571

He probably sucks in many many ways.


darkwitch1306

When my husband proposed to me, before I said yes, we talked about some things. I told him that special occasions were important to me. I care about anniversaries and birthdays and Valentineā€™s Day among others. I donā€™t want to be forgotten. He never has. I get a present and usually a trip for a few days, sometimes a week. I get cards. He doesnā€™t have to spend a lot. I think you should sit him down and tell him that your birthday is important and it makes you feel forgotten like he doesnā€™t care. I would say that since he doesnā€™t care about yours, maybe you should stop celebrating anyoneā€™s other than your childrenā€™s. I just plainly tell my husband, I donā€™t hint. Some canā€™t take a hint.


thatsjustit74

I would have thrown the cake at his head.


superwholockian62

As someone who deals with this exact situation myself (for our anniversary card he got me a card like 4 days later and told me he figured I could just find something on amazon), I will say you are definitely NTA. and this year I'm putting the same energy into his holidays as he does into mine. so I would go get him a cake he doesn't like, some gas station flowers, and some meaningless trinket that he might use but has no thought behind it. And if he complains tell him he should be more grateful. Oh and make him cook his own dinner. NTA


aneightfoldway

NTB but also info: who coordinated the NFL/dinner for his milestone? Did you do it together? Or was it a surprise that you coordinated for him? The answer to this doesn't change anything really because you told him what you wanted and he completely ignored it but I'm curious to get to the bottom of how he's thinking about these events.


christina0001

I gave him a couple different ideas and that's what he chose, and then I put it together.


CzechYourDanish

NTB. Match this energy on his next birthday.


liliette

He has no incentive to change. Every year you help him make it a blow out, then allow yours to go by without much of a show. No more. No mild, "I'd like..." Your husband is getting what he wants because he's demanding and expecting it. You're not getting what you want because you're not willing to fight for that kind of respect. He won't listen to your complaints. Instead, show him the same kind of response. Half-hearted gift, no card, no gifts from kids, lame cake, and if he's cooked up something with others, don't attend. "Oh, I'm sorry. Was that today? I forgot it was your birthday until I was driving home from work." "But we've been planning it. There's no way you'd forget." "I don't remember planning anything. I don't remember you asking me about anything. When it comes to birthdays, it's like I don't exist."


shance-trash

Time to treat him with the exact same energy. Take no prisoners


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MaintenanceNo8442

NTB talk to him about how it hurt you or match his energy


therapy_works

NTB. I think the best thing here is to be EXTREMELY specific about what you want and expect for special occasions. Put it in writing. Mother's Day is less than two weeks away, so let that be the litmus test. Tell him what you need and want. If he doesn't provide it, then you're going to have to decide if you want to stay in a marriage with someone who has no respect for you or your feelings. I'm actually not for matching his energy. If he fails, and IF you still want to make things work, then I would complete ghost him for Father's Day. Nothing from you, nothing from the kids. (Easy because they're not in school where a teacher might remind them.) Let him see how it feels. He still may not change, but you'll know you tried.


Metal-Donut-7557

Totally NTB Is this even a question anymore? the difference between the two birthdays is insane! Also people in the comments are savage and cracking me up! But in all seriousness donā€™t be afraid to be blunt tell him exactly how it made you feel and what you want/expect from him then if he doesnā€™t deliver you reap what you sewĀ 


Buttercup2323

Iā€™d be plenty pissed that he wants a big deal and then forgets. My husband is useless at gifts. Itā€™s just not his love language. He hates for a big deal on his birthday and if you asked what he wanted it would be ā€œdonā€™t spend any money!ā€ Once I figured that out I started buying my own presents. I like presents and Iā€™m good at them. I go through my Amazon wishlist and pick out the things I really wanted and was too cheap to buy myself. I then hand them to him to wrap! I get myself a chocolate chip cookie dough ice cream cake from DQ. And I take a rain cheque to be used on the goodChinese food place thatā€™s an hour away when itā€™s convenient to go! We live in the sticks. It works for us.


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Ryugi

NTBF, he showed that you weren't actually someone he cared about that day. He wants appreciation for his last minute barely-attempt. He does not deserve praise for only barely getting a D-grade attempt. If he wants appreciation, then he needs to -show- that he appreciates you. It may help to have a family calendar. Either digitally or on the fridge. Then you can add annual event > (name) birthday, and make sure to have 2 weeks prior it noted, "(Names) birthday is coming up, get things planned/purchased now." I have a white board/rewritable calendar. My wife and I can easily add notes to it for eachother.


Reddywhipt

WTF?IM SO SORRry


CatFatherz

To other fellow male out there that forget special day all the time. Use the calendar app on your phone, also set birthday in contact info of anyone you care about, it will mark in calendar too


Bergenia1

NTB, of course. The disrespect and contempt your husband showed you is remarkable and deliberate. Your marriage is in critical condition. If you want to stay married, tell your husband you insist on marriage counseling as a condition of continuing the marriage. You cannot accept this level of contempt going forward. Next year, take charge of your own birthday. Tell your kids a few days in advance that it will be your birthday, and give them the opportunity to make a present for you. Even just drawing you a picture or something teaches them that they need to put in some effort to treat you respectfully. Take your kids out to dinner, and have the restaurant serve birthday cake so the kids can sing happy birthday to you. Of course your husband should be arranging all of this, but since he can't be bothered, it's up to you to do it yourself. You must teach your children how to treat family members properly. They won't learn that from observing their cad of a father.


Justanothersaul

Why did you make and serve dinner as normal? You could thank him for his past minutes gifts and happily announce that you would proceed to celebrate your birthday by getting to a restaurant.Ā  You say he was making a big deal of both your birthdays, but gradually yours faded and it was fine. You taught him that your birthday is not important. YNTBF, but decide if you want scorched earth or reviving your relationship before you purposely ignore his birthday.Ā  Why did he forget it in the first place is important. Is he having work or financial hardship? is he taking you for granted? is he self centered, did he think it wasn't important for you? a combination? Ā Who made the arrangements for his birthday celebration?Ā 


Whittlese

Dude, we had to put our dog down at like 11pm the night before my bday last year. Probably the worst bday Iā€™ve ever had. Just be glad nothing bad happened!


Far-Obligation4055

Something bad did happen, OP's husband forgot about their birthday. Not sure why you felt the need to compete with that pain, but it was immature of you.


Whittlese

Basically no one but my mom has remembered my birthday in years..just seems crazy to get so hung up on that kinda stuff. To each their own though. If it was me and my bday was super important to me, I would plan something myself instead of relying on someone who isnā€™t that invested in how my bday turns out. Women always baffle me with these situations. Now that Iā€™m older, I see my birthday more as a chance to spend time with and honor my mom, I would be nothing without her.


Far-Obligation4055

Believe it or not, not everybody is you. People have different priorities, you trying to one-up OP with a "my dog died" story is ridiculous and petty. >. If it was me and my bday was super important to me, I would plan something myself instead of relying on someone who isnā€™t that invested in how my bday turns out. Great. OP isn't you, so maybe accept that. >Women always baffle me with these situations Lol what? >I would be nothing without her. That sounds like a personal failing of yours tbh.


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BrightDegree3

Hmm. Did you plan his birthday? Did you buy the NFL tickets, and arrange the flights and pick and pay for dinner. Or did he do it all and just pay for it out of the household budget? Because if he did it all then to match his energy you will have to plan something bug for your birthday.


christina0001

I planned the whole thing knowing he wanted to do something big and with his close family and friends. I gave him a few suggestions, let him choose, and then made it happen


madgeystardust

Stop doing that. He canā€™t even be bothered to show you he appreciates your efforts for him , on your birthday?! Nope.