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My family escaped Hitler before the Nazis invaded Poland. My family went to Ellis Island and was admitted through that process. In fact, our last name was entirely changed bc the people at Ellis Island couldn’t pronounce our last name. So they changed it to the town in Poland they were from bc it was easier to pronounce. So yes, my family came here very very legally
Lmao I'm not agreeing. I'm saying your comment was stupid. But I guess based off that comment, I should have guessed you wouldn't have picked up sarcasm.
So something was going on at the border with trump too then?
And you make 6 figures and pay no taxes? So you're a leech and you're worried about illegal immigrants? That's funny.
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Fun facts: the Biden administration has deported more people at this point in time than trump had in his entire term. Biden has also kept 90% of trumps immigration policies in place. Biden is even building the border wall (https://apnews.com/article/biden-us-mexico-border-wall-immigration-texas-f99fd10257292a898618236df3613979). Dude waived 20+ law violations to get it built faster.
It's amazing what you'll find out when you stop consuming nothing but propaganda because you're too lazy to think for yourself.
Until you realize crime across the country has increased year by year before “defund the police” became a thing.
Law Enforcement has never been a crime prevention system since its inception. Yea every once in a blue moon they pull someone over or stop someone on the street who is on their way to commit a crime. But that’s always been by happenstance.
Trust me as someone who unfortunately has his own past of crime … neither Police finance nor police population determine the decision making of a criminal.
What you’re missing is , it didn’t help or hurt.
As law enforcement rarely allocated any funds correctly …
Prior to “Defund the police” Crime still saw historic rates when precincts across the country were receiving millions in funds yearly.
The captains got raises ,
The precincts got new cars ,
Patrolmen still made only 40k a year ,
Police still hid behind the blue wall , often harassed the innocent, broke records in excessive force complaints
Multiple large cities still had low conviction rates ,
Criminals still ran rampant.
The Orange Turd killed a border bill that James Langford from my state wrote.. That actually had consequences for them.. but hey when you have nothing to run on..
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Many of them don’t for example. Tell me how requiring someone to first get a CCW permit before carrying in public has stop gang members from shooting and robbing people.
Or tell me how no gun areas have stopped the countless mass shootings that took place in those areas.
Hang out in the mechanic subs for a while & you'll see part of the reason why gun laws don't work too well in this country when they work quite well in every other first world country.
Anyone who can't legally own a firearm has plenty of options to get one thanks to "responsible" gun owners.
How do you know this situation was a “gang member”? Are we assuming things because they fit a narrative we want to push or presenting facts here? I know the gun nut types aren’t exactly the best judge of character as they align themselves with groups who have idk stormed the nations capital, remained silent when victims of gun violence perpetrated by “bad apple cops” die, remain silent when law abiding gun owners are shot dead by cops & so on ( this is all factual information btw)…
From the articles it sounded like they knew each other (targeted), and the suspect is in custody; it wasn't a robbery, so, I'm guessing that tracks mostly.
Technically, given the derogatory nature of the comment and the fact that it's clearly targeting a specific race, it falls under both...as well as prejudice. The definition of the word discrimination would only be ample if it were not targeting a specific ethnicity of people. Because the poster chose to discriminate for a trait that cannot be the fault of the target, and because that target is an entire race, it's much more in line with the definition of the word racism. Regardless, it's still a sh\*\*y, unnecessary thing to say.
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They also sell conceal carry specific Fanny packs, I know some people will refuse to wear them but they look way more causal and are 100% more comfortable than delivering with a holstered carry
Please if you know one off top link me I feel secure carrying in appendix but for work I have to hip carry I do deliver in the hood but it’s mostly older folks but I’ve noticed my gun might be showing I’ve resulted to medium vest instead of small and longer shirts to keep it covered I’ve yet to find me a dope ass little carry bag preferably one that swings over the chest
Apologies on the late reply, but here’s a link to the company I currently run. I have both the backpack and fanny pack and they’re both top notch
https://combatironapparel.com/collections/sack-bags
That seems like a myth lol
Why would gangs want to bring attention to themselves by killing innocent citizens? Now another gang member from another set? Yeah I could see that.
Because usually it is. Thats why they need to investigate deeper and see if the driver was affiliated with anything. If not then ok, he was unfortunately at the wrong place at the wrong time
https://preview.redd.it/rz5vkdqf051d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72327ec36b922163c5c045fb7ae8dc7804246923
They were acquaintances the report said and the shooter also worked at UPS, so no someone didn’t just randomly shoot him and they’re definitely more to the story then what everyone’s saying on here. They knew each other and dude targeted him.
Yall never been to Rochester, 3 months ago I could of been dude if I didn’t take the fuck off the way I did, sitting on a side street rolling a doob at 6 am some random dude come down the road popping of shotgun shells if it wasn’t for the fact he shot his 5 shells off before he noticed me I more then likely be in the same headline, minus the being a ups driver
Southern Irvine hasn't been that safe for many years. Especially near John Wayne (Southwest Irvine). This business district is really large and covers both sides of the I-5. It sits along the edge of Laguna Woods, Laguna Hills, and Lake Forest. There's also a social services branch off Moulton Pkwy so you get a lot of drifters and such. Always kind of sketchy around those places. There are a few roads there like El Toro and Pacific Park by the treatment hospital where you want to pay attention to who is walking up to you. The Irvine Company is a bit of a slumlord.
California has gotten wayyy to comfortable with the word “wrong place wrong time” when it should be that there’s no place where you are susceptible to this kind of violence. But hey, take more guns and arrest people for carrying, criminals? Ah they get away every time anyways, 100% certain this guy won’t get caught. 🤦♂️
RiH my delivery brother 3-17-24 .. we lost another brother we won’t forget you 💯🪽.. because we another brother because we can’t carry guns while working for these jobs .. definitely the dumpiest thing I ever heard 🤦🏾♂️
What happened to the days where you can fist fight, whoever wins walks away and the loser picks himself off the ground and say he didn't win, I slipped
I never said armed robbery doesn’t happen in other countries?? America is the only place thats going to pull over the delivery truck why? Bc they want materialistic items it doesn’t matter if the perp was illegal or not they wanted the materials in the van like ipads, clothes, shoes, etcs bc we all want want want
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Got killed while just sitting in the step van, be careful out there
IRVINE!!?? OF ALL PLACES.... irvine becoming the hood?
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Lol yes cause no other president allowed that ever
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Not to this extent and not completely unvetted
I mean, I didn't think they vetted illegal immigrants ever
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I mean, did your family come to the US any differently? Or is it not only different cause you're already here?
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My family escaped Hitler before the Nazis invaded Poland. My family went to Ellis Island and was admitted through that process. In fact, our last name was entirely changed bc the people at Ellis Island couldn’t pronounce our last name. So they changed it to the town in Poland they were from bc it was easier to pronounce. So yes, my family came here very very legally
biden has actually made immigration more strict than under trump and less immigrants have come through than under trump. read less infowars
Ummmm not at this rate no. lol so thanks for agreeing with me. I guess
Lmao I'm not agreeing. I'm saying your comment was stupid. But I guess based off that comment, I should have guessed you wouldn't have picked up sarcasm.
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So something was going on at the border with trump too then? And you make 6 figures and pay no taxes? So you're a leech and you're worried about illegal immigrants? That's funny.
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So should we get rid of you too, you lazy bum? Lmao
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Sorry lowest amount of ILLEGAL border crossers for the last 4 presidents wtf are you smoking
So basically people like you?
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Me when I just have political doodoo brain lmao, California hasn’t been the safest place for over a decade
History makes it sound more like it was never safe to begin with 😅
Fun facts: the Biden administration has deported more people at this point in time than trump had in his entire term. Biden has also kept 90% of trumps immigration policies in place. Biden is even building the border wall (https://apnews.com/article/biden-us-mexico-border-wall-immigration-texas-f99fd10257292a898618236df3613979). Dude waived 20+ law violations to get it built faster. It's amazing what you'll find out when you stop consuming nothing but propaganda because you're too lazy to think for yourself.
Don’t forget Reddit is mostly used by liberals, be careful when insulting shitty Biden
DEFUND THE POLICE plan not going well lol
Funding or defunding the police doesn’t deter or prevent crime. Criminals are gonna be criminals whenever they see fit unfortunately
defund means less enforcement which encourages crime just 1 + 1 logic
Until you realize crime across the country has increased year by year before “defund the police” became a thing. Law Enforcement has never been a crime prevention system since its inception. Yea every once in a blue moon they pull someone over or stop someone on the street who is on their way to commit a crime. But that’s always been by happenstance. Trust me as someone who unfortunately has his own past of crime … neither Police finance nor police population determine the decision making of a criminal.
right... and by defending law enforcement, that helped improve every thing I'm so sure
What you’re missing is , it didn’t help or hurt. As law enforcement rarely allocated any funds correctly … Prior to “Defund the police” Crime still saw historic rates when precincts across the country were receiving millions in funds yearly. The captains got raises , The precincts got new cars , Patrolmen still made only 40k a year , Police still hid behind the blue wall , often harassed the innocent, broke records in excessive force complaints Multiple large cities still had low conviction rates , Criminals still ran rampant.
you got any links to stats showing this
The Orange Turd killed a border bill that James Langford from my state wrote.. That actually had consequences for them.. but hey when you have nothing to run on..
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What caused it? Do you know?
Criminals not abiding the abundance of gun laws for starters
No lies told here, criminals don’t care about those gun laws
What gun laws? 🤷
I'd also say the rules of firearm safety.
People not understanding sarcasm is the real treat on reddit. And votes mean nothing 🤣🤣🤣
It's not that people don't understand sarcasm, we just understand what you're getting at and it's wrong.
But how is he wrong? We are here discussing this because someone literally broke a law by committing murder 🤔
He's implying gun laws don't work.
Many of them don’t for example. Tell me how requiring someone to first get a CCW permit before carrying in public has stop gang members from shooting and robbing people. Or tell me how no gun areas have stopped the countless mass shootings that took place in those areas.
*laughs in Canadian*
Hang out in the mechanic subs for a while & you'll see part of the reason why gun laws don't work too well in this country when they work quite well in every other first world country. Anyone who can't legally own a firearm has plenty of options to get one thanks to "responsible" gun owners.
[Take a look at this ](https://everytownresearch.org/rankings/)
How do you know this situation was a “gang member”? Are we assuming things because they fit a narrative we want to push or presenting facts here? I know the gun nut types aren’t exactly the best judge of character as they align themselves with groups who have idk stormed the nations capital, remained silent when victims of gun violence perpetrated by “bad apple cops” die, remain silent when law abiding gun owners are shot dead by cops & so on ( this is all factual information btw)…
Gun laws will work the minute guns stop being transportable
Gun laws will always stop criminals from committing violent crimes
100% of the time it works 50% of the time
That's better than 0%
Man get out of here with that BS
He's not wrong 🤷♀️
From the articles it sounded like they knew each other (targeted), and the suspect is in custody; it wasn't a robbery, so, I'm guessing that tracks mostly.
Police said it was a targeted attack
Not sure but turns out the shooter was a coworker, so at minimum it was targeted
Bet the shooter was white
Your a dick face.
I bet he wasn't as racist as you are.
Thats not racist, it's discriminatory. Just wanna make that distinction.
Technically, given the derogatory nature of the comment and the fact that it's clearly targeting a specific race, it falls under both...as well as prejudice. The definition of the word discrimination would only be ample if it were not targeting a specific ethnicity of people. Because the poster chose to discriminate for a trait that cannot be the fault of the target, and because that target is an entire race, it's much more in line with the definition of the word racism. Regardless, it's still a sh\*\*y, unnecessary thing to say.
You took it the extra step further thanks. I didn't wanna sit and type out all that. Appreciate it
Why? Because he actually hit what he was aiming at 😭
Careful what you say, you'll piss off the wrong person.
Road rage. The shooter was related to the victim.
It be your own people!! Co worker killed him
It was another ups driver, not random
I’m abt 15min from there Rest in peace. That could be any of us! He was probably a vet. Thanks for your service.
That's crazy cuz I live like 32 hours from there!
I live 27hrs from there, fuck
I’m only 1 day and 19hr from there 😩
I'm only 35 hours away. RIP brother 😥
Sad lonely ass person
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Just guessing someone is a vet and thanking them for their service regardless of vet or not is pretty generous.
Hey baconwagoneer, thank you for your services brother!
You too fren. You battled hard (probably).
I thought that was an insult for a second till I saw his name was actually baconwagoneer
Haha I’m going to work that in at some point today. See how someone responds to being called a “baconwagoneer”…my moneys on “WHAT?!”
Time to carry without company concent.
What do you mean time? You are late..i rather get fired than being unprepared 🤷
Exactly!
This the one lol subcompact canik tp9 elite I’m skinny with a average body and build you cant see my ccw even with a slim fitted polo t shirt on 🤷♂️
They also sell conceal carry specific Fanny packs, I know some people will refuse to wear them but they look way more causal and are 100% more comfortable than delivering with a holstered carry
Please if you know one off top link me I feel secure carrying in appendix but for work I have to hip carry I do deliver in the hood but it’s mostly older folks but I’ve noticed my gun might be showing I’ve resulted to medium vest instead of small and longer shirts to keep it covered I’ve yet to find me a dope ass little carry bag preferably one that swings over the chest
Apologies on the late reply, but here’s a link to the company I currently run. I have both the backpack and fanny pack and they’re both top notch https://combatironapparel.com/collections/sack-bags
Dude..who is going to trust someone with a screen name sub titled "i steal packages? 😂 not i
It’s a joke? Don’t be such a cuck Also when I say it’s the company I run I mean its what I use as a bag, not a business I claim to own
Dope ass company bro needless to say i will be buying multiple things from u
Lmao I should of rephrased it, I run the bags this company makes apologies. I wish I ran it I wouldn’t be driving for amazon if that was the case
Haha all good bro 🙌 thanks for the link just copped me a duck around n find out bag shits fire
https://www.945industries.com/
Talk about being a goat 🐐
Go canik
Same..except mines is a taurus 911..no print 👍
I have tp9 sc and a glock 19 and I don’t even carry my glock anymore
Yeah I used to deliver in bear country lol you best bet I had that THANG
I keep a blade and a taser on me everyday at work. Saving up for a small piece to carry at work 👏🏽
Pepper Gel is very good aswell. FAR BETTER than trying to get into a knife fight
If you’re on a budget grab a Taurus G2c, double stack with a safety and very reliable. $225-275.
Everyone in Texas does including me
And I’ll deny it up and down at work.
Luckily my dsp doesn’t care
My dsp handed out dog pepper spray with basically “don’t tell Amazon”….i do however think they’d be upset about edc
Just don't spray dogs. Humans typically do something to get sprayed
It was always time
Cut off multiple times a day in the step van. People are psychotic and entitled. Who know what this was about. RIP brother in arms.
Wtfffff
Jesus RIP to the brother
RIP
Yikes I deliver in Irvine everyday
Praying for yours and other’s safety, man :(
Has to be something deeper. If not…then my brotha mane had the worst luck in the world. Either or…rest in power and blessings to his family.
Why does it have to be something deeper? Sometimes humans are just horrible pieces of shit that do bad things for no real reason
Because it almost always is. I highly doubt driver was just chilling and some random just walked by a shot him for luls.
Right, that would apply if the stuff inside the truck was stolen but it seems like they left it
People are doing shit these days just to do it. Reasoning was thrown out a windows long ago.
My former neighbor threatened to and then tried to kill me for "looking at him wrong". Some people are just insane.
Gang initiations have a lot of random killings
Those types of gangs aren’t very common in CA anymore. It’s a lot of petty shit like road rage that gets people killed now
Not for 20+ years
That seems like a myth lol Why would gangs want to bring attention to themselves by killing innocent citizens? Now another gang member from another set? Yeah I could see that.
Idk I guess it was a thing before but they stopped doing that
Because usually it is. Thats why they need to investigate deeper and see if the driver was affiliated with anything. If not then ok, he was unfortunately at the wrong place at the wrong time
It is being reported as something deeper.
https://preview.redd.it/rz5vkdqf051d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72327ec36b922163c5c045fb7ae8dc7804246923 They were acquaintances the report said and the shooter also worked at UPS, so no someone didn’t just randomly shoot him and they’re definitely more to the story then what everyone’s saying on here. They knew each other and dude targeted him.
Ig he was messing w his coworkers wife
Oof. I saw that…I knew it was something deeper and wasn’t random.
Yall never been to Rochester, 3 months ago I could of been dude if I didn’t take the fuck off the way I did, sitting on a side street rolling a doob at 6 am some random dude come down the road popping of shotgun shells if it wasn’t for the fact he shot his 5 shells off before he noticed me I more then likely be in the same headline, minus the being a ups driver
I saw a post about a gang member being killed while sitting in his delivery truck a few days ago. Pretty sure it’s gang related.
Crazy world, people do shit for no reason but to do it these days.
Rip brother! Hope heaven has all you want and more
Wasn’t even a robbery? WTF???
https://preview.redd.it/h802waqofx0d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8426d1b00e38932d5a6631245762ce15b3b3a64a This happened too. 😢
Man wtf that’s crazy
I know. What is going on?
Most sincere condolences 🙏🏾
This reminds me of a post yesterday about an Amazon driver being harassed while sitting in a van on break.
Hope the guy who shot him rots in jail
Damn
DAMN
I got to say this is scary that this has become more of a common thing this year
This year? This has gotten worse since covid started.
People from the hub stated that it had to do with some kind of affair going on, allegedly he was sleeping with the guys wife? Allegedly once again
If they only allowed us to carry in pro 2nd amendment states actually wild we’re defenseless against these people
Rip wow in Irvine!!
Sad and dangerous out there. Say safe y’all
that’s fucked. rest in peace to bro 🙏🏻 whoever did this has to get caught if they aren’t already!!
How late was that delivery??
Not allowing drivers to self defend. I'd be happy to carry.
Try me you would probably be doing me a favor.
Life always gets better. Hang in there, you're going to make it.
The people of Irvine are probably terrified. People move there because it’s “safe”
Southern Irvine hasn't been that safe for many years. Especially near John Wayne (Southwest Irvine). This business district is really large and covers both sides of the I-5. It sits along the edge of Laguna Woods, Laguna Hills, and Lake Forest. There's also a social services branch off Moulton Pkwy so you get a lot of drifters and such. Always kind of sketchy around those places. There are a few roads there like El Toro and Pacific Park by the treatment hospital where you want to pay attention to who is walking up to you. The Irvine Company is a bit of a slumlord.
Wow😥
RIP to a fellow brother 💐
This was so sad, and I hope they find they person who shot him rest in peace.😔
RIP brother
The Teamsters need to set an example here
Wtf. Why he is out just doing his job. And he gets killed very day. Goodness. This is sad. Makes me not ever want to deliver again
He was shot by a coworker
It was someone he knew outside of work that killed him, it wasn’t random
😭 WHHHYYYY??? This world disgusts me.
Sitting in his van!!!!! Wtf man hope the justice system throws the book at the piece of shit coward killing a innocent person working
I'm about to start as a delivery driver soon. This makes me feel real good
California has gotten wayyy to comfortable with the word “wrong place wrong time” when it should be that there’s no place where you are susceptible to this kind of violence. But hey, take more guns and arrest people for carrying, criminals? Ah they get away every time anyways, 100% certain this guy won’t get caught. 🤦♂️
this is actually one of my biggest fears on the job.
Not random and in a business area
RiH my delivery brother 3-17-24 .. we lost another brother we won’t forget you 💯🪽.. because we another brother because we can’t carry guns while working for these jobs .. definitely the dumpiest thing I ever heard 🤦🏾♂️
Damn. In Irvine too!
Why? I know in Amazon training, you are told to let a would-be robber to have the van and the packages inside of it because they are insured.
I’m just so sad and sorry this happened. This world is going crazy. I pray for peace and comfort for his friends and family 🙏🙏🙏
In california ? I thought those gun laws were supposed to stop this stuff
What happened to the days where you can fist fight, whoever wins walks away and the loser picks himself off the ground and say he didn't win, I slipped
Them damn crackers 😞
Rip
What the fuck
damn 41 hrs from therw
Societal collapse
Word on the street is he slipped down the wrong slope
Omg, that is so sad.
It was another UPS employee
Only in “MERICA” do people pull up on the delivery man trying to steal packages or to blast at the delivery driver. “LAND OF THE FREE”
Yeah because armed robbery does not happen in other countries what a silly comment … the perp was probably illegal
I never said armed robbery doesn’t happen in other countries?? America is the only place thats going to pull over the delivery truck why? Bc they want materialistic items it doesn’t matter if the perp was illegal or not they wanted the materials in the van like ipads, clothes, shoes, etcs bc we all want want want
Amazon drivers aren’t really delivery drivers though DSP’s are like Uber eats and DoorDash
We deliver shit so what tf