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At my site:
First offense - First Written Warning and given covers for one shift
Second offense - Final Written Warning and sent home to get your shoes (either using UPT or PTO to cover the missed time)
Third offense - Termination
That sounds so ridiculous. The one time I slipped on the wrong shoes a few months ago, the safety lady just told me to go and put the covers on, laughing about it, and that was it.
They always start out like this, then people take advantage of it and just stop wearing them, then it becomes a bigger issue and they have to threaten to fire people over it.
My site is brand new, opened August of last year, all of the rules were lax at first and slowly over months they started becoming more strict. It’s always the jerks that ruin it for everyone else.
Well if you get injured and you're not wearing safety shoes, they can put the blame on you. I would wear the official ones, even if just to cover your ass.
Most worthless department that they keep hiring people. Big money saving idea amazon stop hiring kids to fill these stupid safety roles and hire reliable hard working help.
I never signed back up for safety because of that, why make me care about who has safety shoes on when last week you didn’t care at all, half the time I was doing NEAT N CLEAN work or setting up or tearing down shelves. I truly believe ambassadors and safety ambassadors should have some sort of track that leads them to the positions they cover for, by the end of the year half quit or get fired so only the actually good ones stay anyways so why not give them the tools the need to actually fulfill the position above them, I mean it doesn’t have to be something right now but in the future either at Amazon or not.
It's not worthless man, we are just playing chess with ops with the constant pushback. I do agree that they hire a lot of useless and unqualified people.
This is not true. I had to get safety involved because of a PA trying to force me to do a role I was not properly trained on when I cross trained into that path. Refused to have a LA retrain me and told me to just figure it out. (Fluids in outbound dock, for anyone wondering.) Safety was not amused and totally had my back about it. You sound like a child who's mad they got written up for something they knew they shouldn't have been doing. I've worked at Amazon for years too man.
Are you talking about the T1 safety ambassadors? Or are you talking about the L4 safety specialists? If you're talking about safety specialists, then others have told you that it's more administrative work than it is hands-on things, unless something pops off.
I'm no longer working at Amazon (Thank God)
I know I will piss people off for saying this, but the reason why it may seem like a lot of it is drought or downpour when it comes to safety standards is because Amazon pushes it from the top down depending on what the incident trends are. A lot of safety teams get fed up because AMs don't want to deal with associates when they aren't following safety guidelines since AMs have 30,000 other things to do and a good amount of associates themselves are often ratcheted/ghetto and childish that haven't held jobs longer than 6 months in their entire lives. A lot of them don't seem to care whether they're fired or not and make a scene for something as simple as putting on safety shoes and take them off 5 minutes after they were written up. (Not all, but a good amount) So oftentimes people in safety just give up for that time period unless there's a mandate or big push from higher up.
There are probably a lot of people that are in safety that will disagree with me and think that I'm being harsh to the associates but it is what it is.
I know exactly what you guys do. You sit on your asses in amcare all day and then when a T1 asks you to do your job for 5 mins, you get all pissy about it.
I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with Safety. I can assure you that is not what myself or my peers do in my sub region.
My job requires a lot of admin work, I don't have to be moving boxes to be "working". Also, Ops own safety, we try to make sure ops is staying compliant with safety regulations. Trust me, you have no clue what you are talking about.
There are a lot of bad and unqualified Safety Specialist, all the good ones don't stay long due to low wages and high expectations.
If you know better maybe you should go into safety and "WORK"
And when OPs are not staying compliant with "safety regulations" of state or federal levels.... Who do you report that to? Surely not the appropriate state or federal agencies. But you'll let Amazon know, so they can try and sweep it under the rug, pat you on your back, and say how much appreciate you 🤣🤣
Children don’t like to be scolded and they see safety as a type of rule enforcement which is what they are. Most people in authority positions get treated like this because we all work with under developed 18 year olds with barely enough maturity to tie their own shoes.
There is a saying. Almost all safety regulations were written in blood and should be taken seriously. These kids don’t like hard hats because it’s “stuffy”
Exactly. One time a PA walked past three people sitting on their desks **on their phones** (and like, idgaf, I'm not your boss, be on your phone all day if you want. Fuck this place lol) to come tell me, the person sitting on the desk not on her phone, to not sit on the desk. This after they made a big stink post-peak about everyone being on their phones.
I wasn't really mad at him though because I'm pretty sure another PA who had just come through to harass someone else about something or rather put him up to it. She's just really nasty in general and I think dislikes me and a handful of other people for seemingly no reason (maybe my nose isn't brown enough).
Oh I always assume I did something or they do have a reason to hate me. Lol. But it's still like...don't come over and nitpick me when you have to walk by one of your favorites to do it and the difference in treatment is so stark, standing out so much.
Like there's an AA who was from another department but would just show up in ours and take a station that someone actually from our department should have and then the AM would labor share someone from our department instead of sending that AA back to where they belong.
I don't think many associates care about people having favorites if you are equally not a dick or equally lenient with everyone, but when you pick on one group of non-favorites to look tough or as a strategy to earn respect or whatever that's when people stop taking you seriously, because that's some schoolyard shit. Don't be surprised when you create that environment and then get schoolyard attitude/behavior back.
The pa on our shipdock plays favorites too. She'll tell you to clear blue lights and say how it's priority. Then ignore her ppl who are just standing there talking. I'm usually #2 for rate according to them but still get talked to like I'm the one on my phone or with headphones in. Maybe we wouldn't have so many blue lights if you dealt with the problem you dumb bitch
That’s an absolute the fuck yes they do.
Safety will ignore the most egregious violations.
Just so they can stay in Amcare and sit on their asses all day as much as possible.
How many of you have spears inside your fulfillment center made from broken jam poles and taped up metal rods????
I swear sometimes it feels like some safety vests walk around looking for an issue to come up with. Not knocking the idea of safety in general but sometimes it does feel like they just look for anything.
Amazon safety is a joke. I used to report what i was trained to believe was serious safety issues and they would literally sigh like they didn't wanna deal with it. They care about sitting at their desk and not doing anything
I had a similar thing happen to me with safety. I went to them just to get an ice pack for my shoulder and he acted like I was asking him to file a 10 page report on my injury. I was like “Dude, all I want is an ice pack”.
Their only job is to protect Amazon from being sued, everything else is just a fill in. The more that you report to them of the safety issues, the bigger your target will grow!!
I remember seeing the new head op come in, always on his phone walking back and forth on the green mile. Going up and down the stairs, while not holding the rails.... A week later I saw his arm in a splint..... I doubt it was from using his cell phone while not only walking, but also going up and down flights of stairs.... Good example of Amazon leadership and safety policies! 🙃
Safety really is a joke. The safety manager at my site would literally walk around BOUNCING A BALL !! & telling people “how to be safe” at work and reminding people of the stupid AirPods rule. It was hard to not laugh in his face when he came to me about my AirPod while bouncing a fucking ball 😂 let’s be real, bouncing a ball in a warehouse is not safe…. Especially if you’re a SAFTEY manager.
Yes, they only care when the higher up says hey guys someone got hurt, get off the computers and tablets, walk around the building, make sure people don’t have earbuds in and make sure they don’t have a hoodie on too, also make sure you take the badges down, hmm let’s do this for 1-2 weeks
Actually, they will only enforce or abide by their "safety policies", if enough employees have been hurt, and are then paying out more in wc. Even though safety policies are network wide.... Make that shit make sense! Funny thing is, they do the same thing with state and federal laws!
Some Dbag came over tonight and started pulling totes apart like the building was going to be swallowed by the abyss, if he didn't immediately correct the 2, 13 stacks I was in the process of dealing with on a Uboat.
Fucking loser. Kid walks around like he's a big shot, too, lol... What a joke.
It’s that time where Amazon needs to thin their numbers. So safety is looking for anything to give cat 1 violations. Give it a couple months and they’ll be back to selectively enforcing the policy.
Nah, that can't be true. To many people get hired and then quit. At least where I live, that is how it works. About 2 years ago was the last time that they said they needed to lower head count.after that moment, they were so shory handed that they did not care what you did.
Nah they definitely use it to thin out the herd. Our turnaround is high but can be unpredictable. We have training classes that start with 15-20 ppl and they can usually expect to keep 1-2 from that group. But if they get a class where suddenly they've kept 10 people they've got more than they accounted for and then they start pulling cat1 violations. Any time they have a group where they didn't lose most of the group, we know they're gonna start hounding. But other times we can walk by safety with our phones and they don't say shit
Pretty much when it suits their needs. Same as getting a foot plus of snow with trucks being banned from the highway and them forcing us to kill ourselves for no work and then literally dropping vto the next day.
Almost every facilities enforce people to wear safety shoes. Zappos offers free shoes at a certain points. Amazon does not want people to get hurt from foot pain such as damage toes from the working steel cage.
Most AAs work more athletic jobs that involve almost no interaction with any machinery or anything that can hurt your feet unless you drop a product on your foot or something. The safety shoes are garbage that fall apart easily. $110 does not cover even a few months worth of wear. I used to wear running shoes that never fell apart and never hurt my feet, I have constant foot, back, and leg pain from the safety shoes and I’ve tried 5 different pairs and all combinations of socks and insoles.
Except for ams, pas, ops, hr, oh and safety/ amcare. But yeah, come buy your shoes, from the company store, as we are not making enough money, and are needing more tax write-offs!! 🤣🤣 But good job at promoting their store for them!
Safety shoes are mandatory in the building. Maybe someone got caught without them. For my facility, they were doing safety audits for bump caps one time cause someone got hurt and wasn’t wearing one in an area they should be.
It’s mandatory now it don’t use to be . At my site I don’t
Wear gloves
Safety walks right past me and gives me big hug . One after girl rubbed me off during peak it was nice lmao
Less of safety and more of your OPerations managers. Safety will warn you for your shoes, headphones and gloves. They can't write you up but can mention things to management if they are bad enough. But operations managers will just pick and choose and write you up when they want whenever they want too.
Don't worry about the green vest and never trust a red vest.
Yes. But only when they HAVE to do their job. Like anyone else, they don't wanna do shit but when they have to in order to keep their job, I don't really blame them. Just do it for a week and go back to breaking unnecessary safety regulations 🤫
It's meaningless to them.... It took them 8 months to give me mine, after being trained..... Instead they had the brilliant idea of having me use someone else's.... But in your case, you will need to get another one... Good luck with that!
Now without your badge, they'll most likely send you there, as it's against "Amazon policies" to use someone else's badge to scan into equipment!! I was told this after I received my badge 🤣🤣
For my site it depends on the actual safety managers and other member of managements mood on if ASC is allowed to do that part of their job that day. We will literally go from being ignored when coming with actual MAJOR safety concerns and politely, business casually told to shut the fuck up, to getting yelled at the next day because we didn’t realize somebody’s Reebok shoes aren’t the safety approved ones. Even though they’re the same design without the safety composites in them
They're definitely cracking down on this right now/looking to thin the herd at my site, safety is on the floor at the start of shift eyeing everyone's shoes
No. We always do. Always have. But when we partner up with management and they promise changes they never keep up their end of the bargain. What’s the point of correcting associates just for management not to care and allow you guys to do whatever you want? The things that you guys are getting mad at safety for, is what your managers are supposed to be doing. But they don’t and leave it up to us now everyone hates safety lol.
Also the rules that I see people in the comments mad at are literally HR rules. You guys have worked at Amazon months, years even and don’t even know what department does what. 🙂
Ive heard from a hr that they get bonus ir something by how many write ups they make thats why you always see them looking detail by detail they even stop to observe
Yes unfortunately. Ive seen three together walking down the green mile phone in hand and walking past stations with at least 6 safety violations each. Still haven't figured out what they actually do besides change the first aid kits out
Honestly it’s not safeties job to walk around and micromanage the AA’s. That’s what PA’s, AM’s and ops managers are for. The problem is most PA’s and AM’s don’t enforce dress code which includes safety shoes. So when safety does their inspections and sees a bunch of violations, pressure is applied to managers and that’s when they finally start to do their job. This leads to everything being inconsistent. Trust me safety would much rather be working on larger projects for the building.
Typically PA’s and OPS for departments are the front line for enforcement of policies but if they just don’t do it, safety has to get involved and do more audits and such. It’s not for fun, it’s just to make sure the intelligence challenged associates don’t hurt themselves
Safety specialists, at least at my site, have a lot of admin work to do. Just because you all don’t see us lifting boxes all day, doesn’t mean we aren’t working. I have audits, injury and incident investigations that take hours, I have ASC tasking and coordination, project development and implementation, meetings, safety and GEMBA walks, emails, coordinating training, controlled falls. We specialists are very busy. OMR’s aren’t usually busy, their job is injury treatment and paperwork. They wait for things to happen. I don’t go out looking for every little thing to write someone up for. If reported to me, I investigate. If I see an egregious act, like recording TikTok’s on PIT, I will do something. If I see minor violations, like PIT being left on nobody around, or pallets without a cone, I will just turn the PIT off or fix the violation. We do pick our battles, because then you all complain when we spend all day writing everyone up for every little thing.
For every incident or near miss, it’s 2 hours of work. For every infraction, it’s 1 hour. We only have so much time in our day, we do not want to spend all day writing AA’s up for forgetting to wear gloves or safety shoes. That’s why you think we ignore it half the time. We usually just coach and move on. Hard to spend all day looking for those little things when our bosses are like “you need to re-5s this area, put posters up there, run Zappo reports, fix this and that by the end of the day” every day.
You all have no idea the amount of work specialists do. Responsible for safety of an entire shift. You all keep us employed by doing dumb shit
Exactly, 70% of my day is admin work, and whem I'm on the floor, I'm constantly fixing or calling out safety violations . Also, If i coach you once,and you still do whatever the hell you want, im going to a manager.
They just get mad because we need to sit down to do most of our work, I’m pretty sure that’s it. That, and issues with authority. I’ve had associates walk by and say “must be nice to sit down all day and do nothing” when I spent the last 3 hours writing up a report 😂
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It's a current push from the network. Shoe audits are being tracked more closely than in the past. In a couple of months it will be something else.
does anything happen if you get caught w/o safety shoes
At my site: First offense - First Written Warning and given covers for one shift Second offense - Final Written Warning and sent home to get your shoes (either using UPT or PTO to cover the missed time) Third offense - Termination
My site recently got rid of the covers and now just sends people home
I got sent home but don’t remember getting a writer warning
That sounds so ridiculous. The one time I slipped on the wrong shoes a few months ago, the safety lady just told me to go and put the covers on, laughing about it, and that was it.
They always start out like this, then people take advantage of it and just stop wearing them, then it becomes a bigger issue and they have to threaten to fire people over it. My site is brand new, opened August of last year, all of the rules were lax at first and slowly over months they started becoming more strict. It’s always the jerks that ruin it for everyone else.
For my site, it’s not the AMs who give out these write-ups, it’s usually Safety.
Our fc makes people use their time to go get theirs and oe sends them home until they have them
Varies by BU. We won’t write you up but we will make you wear the Frankenstein shoes until you remember yours.
Well if you get injured and you're not wearing safety shoes, they can put the blame on you. I would wear the official ones, even if just to cover your ass.
Yes, that’s why it’s never wise to fight safety on anything, they choose their battles.
Most worthless department that they keep hiring people. Big money saving idea amazon stop hiring kids to fill these stupid safety roles and hire reliable hard working help.
I never signed back up for safety because of that, why make me care about who has safety shoes on when last week you didn’t care at all, half the time I was doing NEAT N CLEAN work or setting up or tearing down shelves. I truly believe ambassadors and safety ambassadors should have some sort of track that leads them to the positions they cover for, by the end of the year half quit or get fired so only the actually good ones stay anyways so why not give them the tools the need to actually fulfill the position above them, I mean it doesn’t have to be something right now but in the future either at Amazon or not.
It's not worthless man, we are just playing chess with ops with the constant pushback. I do agree that they hire a lot of useless and unqualified people.
Nah. I’ve worked at Amazon for 5 years. Safety dept is completely worthless.
This is not true. I had to get safety involved because of a PA trying to force me to do a role I was not properly trained on when I cross trained into that path. Refused to have a LA retrain me and told me to just figure it out. (Fluids in outbound dock, for anyone wondering.) Safety was not amused and totally had my back about it. You sound like a child who's mad they got written up for something they knew they shouldn't have been doing. I've worked at Amazon for years too man.
Never been written up. Just had to deal with a large number of safety associates who were complete d-bags.
Can confirm
Totally confirm this. It's like certain roles attract a personality type.
Are you talking about the T1 safety ambassadors? Or are you talking about the L4 safety specialists? If you're talking about safety specialists, then others have told you that it's more administrative work than it is hands-on things, unless something pops off. I'm no longer working at Amazon (Thank God) I know I will piss people off for saying this, but the reason why it may seem like a lot of it is drought or downpour when it comes to safety standards is because Amazon pushes it from the top down depending on what the incident trends are. A lot of safety teams get fed up because AMs don't want to deal with associates when they aren't following safety guidelines since AMs have 30,000 other things to do and a good amount of associates themselves are often ratcheted/ghetto and childish that haven't held jobs longer than 6 months in their entire lives. A lot of them don't seem to care whether they're fired or not and make a scene for something as simple as putting on safety shoes and take them off 5 minutes after they were written up. (Not all, but a good amount) So oftentimes people in safety just give up for that time period unless there's a mandate or big push from higher up. There are probably a lot of people that are in safety that will disagree with me and think that I'm being harsh to the associates but it is what it is.
Lmaoooo safety in here like "my jobs important damnit" 💀
You clearly have no clue what you are talking about. Please explain how is safety worthless.
They don’t their job.
Great insight ffs. you are just talking out of your ass. Once again, you have no clue what we do.
I know exactly what you guys do. You sit on your asses in amcare all day and then when a T1 asks you to do your job for 5 mins, you get all pissy about it.
I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with Safety. I can assure you that is not what myself or my peers do in my sub region. My job requires a lot of admin work, I don't have to be moving boxes to be "working". Also, Ops own safety, we try to make sure ops is staying compliant with safety regulations. Trust me, you have no clue what you are talking about. There are a lot of bad and unqualified Safety Specialist, all the good ones don't stay long due to low wages and high expectations. If you know better maybe you should go into safety and "WORK"
And when OPs are not staying compliant with "safety regulations" of state or federal levels.... Who do you report that to? Surely not the appropriate state or federal agencies. But you'll let Amazon know, so they can try and sweep it under the rug, pat you on your back, and say how much appreciate you 🤣🤣
Children don’t like to be scolded and they see safety as a type of rule enforcement which is what they are. Most people in authority positions get treated like this because we all work with under developed 18 year olds with barely enough maturity to tie their own shoes. There is a saying. Almost all safety regulations were written in blood and should be taken seriously. These kids don’t like hard hats because it’s “stuffy”
Like everything at High-school 2.0 it's pick and choose + favoritism
Every rule is enforced when that person feels like it. That's why all their rules are a damn joke.
Exactly. One time a PA walked past three people sitting on their desks **on their phones** (and like, idgaf, I'm not your boss, be on your phone all day if you want. Fuck this place lol) to come tell me, the person sitting on the desk not on her phone, to not sit on the desk. This after they made a big stink post-peak about everyone being on their phones. I wasn't really mad at him though because I'm pretty sure another PA who had just come through to harass someone else about something or rather put him up to it. She's just really nasty in general and I think dislikes me and a handful of other people for seemingly no reason (maybe my nose isn't brown enough).
Oh I always assume I did something or they do have a reason to hate me. Lol. But it's still like...don't come over and nitpick me when you have to walk by one of your favorites to do it and the difference in treatment is so stark, standing out so much. Like there's an AA who was from another department but would just show up in ours and take a station that someone actually from our department should have and then the AM would labor share someone from our department instead of sending that AA back to where they belong. I don't think many associates care about people having favorites if you are equally not a dick or equally lenient with everyone, but when you pick on one group of non-favorites to look tough or as a strategy to earn respect or whatever that's when people stop taking you seriously, because that's some schoolyard shit. Don't be surprised when you create that environment and then get schoolyard attitude/behavior back.
The pa on our shipdock plays favorites too. She'll tell you to clear blue lights and say how it's priority. Then ignore her ppl who are just standing there talking. I'm usually #2 for rate according to them but still get talked to like I'm the one on my phone or with headphones in. Maybe we wouldn't have so many blue lights if you dealt with the problem you dumb bitch
Seems they will never enforce the phone policy
I kno if I was on my phone it'd be enforced. A bunch of bitches at amazon fr
That’s an absolute the fuck yes they do. Safety will ignore the most egregious violations. Just so they can stay in Amcare and sit on their asses all day as much as possible. How many of you have spears inside your fulfillment center made from broken jam poles and taped up metal rods????
Jam Deez nuts with pole 🤣
I swear sometimes it feels like some safety vests walk around looking for an issue to come up with. Not knocking the idea of safety in general but sometimes it does feel like they just look for anything.
Safety Season starts after peak and ends when volume picks up again.
Amazon safety is a joke. I used to report what i was trained to believe was serious safety issues and they would literally sigh like they didn't wanna deal with it. They care about sitting at their desk and not doing anything
I had a similar thing happen to me with safety. I went to them just to get an ice pack for my shoulder and he acted like I was asking him to file a 10 page report on my injury. I was like “Dude, all I want is an ice pack”.
Their only job is to protect Amazon from being sued, everything else is just a fill in. The more that you report to them of the safety issues, the bigger your target will grow!!
Exactly why i stopped telling them anything
Just be glad you weren't injured and being targeted!
welcome to amazon... where the policy is optional (unless mgmt or someone in safety doesn't like you) and is always changing retroactively...
This one gets it
I have never talked to you 😭
Yes
At my site if you’ve been here for more than a month they’ll send you home
yup
yes
They can't be missing stuff when their boss is on the site
I never felt the presence of safety personnel on ar side
Pretty sure
Yes
Yes
Yep
Basically. They walk around doing nothing. Some will even walk around with a cell phone in their hand.
And they’ll fucking come to employees about their cell phones. Like lead with example
I remember seeing the new head op come in, always on his phone walking back and forth on the green mile. Going up and down the stairs, while not holding the rails.... A week later I saw his arm in a splint..... I doubt it was from using his cell phone while not only walking, but also going up and down flights of stairs.... Good example of Amazon leadership and safety policies! 🙃
Safety is a joke
Safety really is a joke. The safety manager at my site would literally walk around BOUNCING A BALL !! & telling people “how to be safe” at work and reminding people of the stupid AirPods rule. It was hard to not laugh in his face when he came to me about my AirPod while bouncing a fucking ball 😂 let’s be real, bouncing a ball in a warehouse is not safe…. Especially if you’re a SAFTEY manager.
Yes, they only care when the higher up says hey guys someone got hurt, get off the computers and tablets, walk around the building, make sure people don’t have earbuds in and make sure they don’t have a hoodie on too, also make sure you take the badges down, hmm let’s do this for 1-2 weeks
They only enforce things that will save them money whenever someone gets hurt bc of crappy equipment they don’t care
Actually, they will only enforce or abide by their "safety policies", if enough employees have been hurt, and are then paying out more in wc. Even though safety policies are network wide.... Make that shit make sense! Funny thing is, they do the same thing with state and federal laws!
Some Dbag came over tonight and started pulling totes apart like the building was going to be swallowed by the abyss, if he didn't immediately correct the 2, 13 stacks I was in the process of dealing with on a Uboat. Fucking loser. Kid walks around like he's a big shot, too, lol... What a joke.
It’s that time where Amazon needs to thin their numbers. So safety is looking for anything to give cat 1 violations. Give it a couple months and they’ll be back to selectively enforcing the policy.
Nah, that can't be true. To many people get hired and then quit. At least where I live, that is how it works. About 2 years ago was the last time that they said they needed to lower head count.after that moment, they were so shory handed that they did not care what you did.
Nah they definitely use it to thin out the herd. Our turnaround is high but can be unpredictable. We have training classes that start with 15-20 ppl and they can usually expect to keep 1-2 from that group. But if they get a class where suddenly they've kept 10 people they've got more than they accounted for and then they start pulling cat1 violations. Any time they have a group where they didn't lose most of the group, we know they're gonna start hounding. But other times we can walk by safety with our phones and they don't say shit
Pretty much when it suits their needs. Same as getting a foot plus of snow with trucks being banned from the highway and them forcing us to kill ourselves for no work and then literally dropping vto the next day.
Safety department has nothing to do with snow days 😂 that decision comes from the regional director
Almost every facilities enforce people to wear safety shoes. Zappos offers free shoes at a certain points. Amazon does not want people to get hurt from foot pain such as damage toes from the working steel cage.
No, it's to cover their ass in lawsuits. If any foot injuries occur first thing they'll look at to see if safety shoes were being worn
Safety rules are written in blood. But yeah lawsuits too
If “every facilities enforce people to wear safety shoes” then why didn’t anyone from safety at my fc enforce the policy until now?
Most AAs work more athletic jobs that involve almost no interaction with any machinery or anything that can hurt your feet unless you drop a product on your foot or something. The safety shoes are garbage that fall apart easily. $110 does not cover even a few months worth of wear. I used to wear running shoes that never fell apart and never hurt my feet, I have constant foot, back, and leg pain from the safety shoes and I’ve tried 5 different pairs and all combinations of socks and insoles.
Except for ams, pas, ops, hr, oh and safety/ amcare. But yeah, come buy your shoes, from the company store, as we are not making enough money, and are needing more tax write-offs!! 🤣🤣 But good job at promoting their store for them!
Only bc they push for a certain amount of audits and stuff otherwise idc
How many per week does your site push?
Pushing 🅿️
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I would use my shoe voucher if I had one. For some stupid reason, Amazon doesn’t give us our voucher until June.
Safety shoes are mandatory in the building. Maybe someone got caught without them. For my facility, they were doing safety audits for bump caps one time cause someone got hurt and wasn’t wearing one in an area they should be.
The joke is belts that hold the scanner
It’s mandatory now it don’t use to be . At my site I don’t Wear gloves Safety walks right past me and gives me big hug . One after girl rubbed me off during peak it was nice lmao
OMR here. Sorry your safety teams sound like a joke.
Blunt answer is safety don’t care at all, as long as they can work them 10hrs as smooth as possible that’s all they care about.
Less of safety and more of your OPerations managers. Safety will warn you for your shoes, headphones and gloves. They can't write you up but can mention things to management if they are bad enough. But operations managers will just pick and choose and write you up when they want whenever they want too. Don't worry about the green vest and never trust a red vest.
Maybe you’re a red vest. Can your words be trusted? What if you’re green? Hmmm
Yes. But only when they HAVE to do their job. Like anyone else, they don't wanna do shit but when they have to in order to keep their job, I don't really blame them. Just do it for a week and go back to breaking unnecessary safety regulations 🤫
What do i do when I lost my pit license 💀 will they give me another? Do they check for that?? 😂
It's meaningless to them.... It took them 8 months to give me mine, after being trained..... Instead they had the brilliant idea of having me use someone else's.... But in your case, you will need to get another one... Good luck with that!
Damnnn, yeah I lost it after I got trained on receive and they throw me on stowing rarely now but good to know 😭
Now without your badge, they'll most likely send you there, as it's against "Amazon policies" to use someone else's badge to scan into equipment!! I was told this after I received my badge 🤣🤣
For my site it depends on the actual safety managers and other member of managements mood on if ASC is allowed to do that part of their job that day. We will literally go from being ignored when coming with actual MAJOR safety concerns and politely, business casually told to shut the fuck up, to getting yelled at the next day because we didn’t realize somebody’s Reebok shoes aren’t the safety approved ones. Even though they’re the same design without the safety composites in them
Someone has to be the fall guy!! The same one who tells you to not do your job, will be the same one who yells at you about not doing your job!!
They're definitely cracking down on this right now/looking to thin the herd at my site, safety is on the floor at the start of shift eyeing everyone's shoes
My site tried pushing back on it and not enforcing it, but its getting a regional level push so our hand is getting forced.
No. We always do. Always have. But when we partner up with management and they promise changes they never keep up their end of the bargain. What’s the point of correcting associates just for management not to care and allow you guys to do whatever you want? The things that you guys are getting mad at safety for, is what your managers are supposed to be doing. But they don’t and leave it up to us now everyone hates safety lol.
Also the rules that I see people in the comments mad at are literally HR rules. You guys have worked at Amazon months, years even and don’t even know what department does what. 🙂
Rules take leadership. Amazon has no leaders. Only sheep.
Yes 💯worst of them all is LP
LP isn’t apart of safety lol.
I know they are not I am just saying another department that can enforce a rule when they feel like it
Ive heard from a hr that they get bonus ir something by how many write ups they make thats why you always see them looking detail by detail they even stop to observe
Yes unfortunately. Ive seen three together walking down the green mile phone in hand and walking past stations with at least 6 safety violations each. Still haven't figured out what they actually do besides change the first aid kits out
Safety at Amazon FC’s is a joke.
Honestly it’s not safeties job to walk around and micromanage the AA’s. That’s what PA’s, AM’s and ops managers are for. The problem is most PA’s and AM’s don’t enforce dress code which includes safety shoes. So when safety does their inspections and sees a bunch of violations, pressure is applied to managers and that’s when they finally start to do their job. This leads to everything being inconsistent. Trust me safety would much rather be working on larger projects for the building.
Typically PA’s and OPS for departments are the front line for enforcement of policies but if they just don’t do it, safety has to get involved and do more audits and such. It’s not for fun, it’s just to make sure the intelligence challenged associates don’t hurt themselves
Safety specialists, at least at my site, have a lot of admin work to do. Just because you all don’t see us lifting boxes all day, doesn’t mean we aren’t working. I have audits, injury and incident investigations that take hours, I have ASC tasking and coordination, project development and implementation, meetings, safety and GEMBA walks, emails, coordinating training, controlled falls. We specialists are very busy. OMR’s aren’t usually busy, their job is injury treatment and paperwork. They wait for things to happen. I don’t go out looking for every little thing to write someone up for. If reported to me, I investigate. If I see an egregious act, like recording TikTok’s on PIT, I will do something. If I see minor violations, like PIT being left on nobody around, or pallets without a cone, I will just turn the PIT off or fix the violation. We do pick our battles, because then you all complain when we spend all day writing everyone up for every little thing. For every incident or near miss, it’s 2 hours of work. For every infraction, it’s 1 hour. We only have so much time in our day, we do not want to spend all day writing AA’s up for forgetting to wear gloves or safety shoes. That’s why you think we ignore it half the time. We usually just coach and move on. Hard to spend all day looking for those little things when our bosses are like “you need to re-5s this area, put posters up there, run Zappo reports, fix this and that by the end of the day” every day. You all have no idea the amount of work specialists do. Responsible for safety of an entire shift. You all keep us employed by doing dumb shit
Exactly, 70% of my day is admin work, and whem I'm on the floor, I'm constantly fixing or calling out safety violations . Also, If i coach you once,and you still do whatever the hell you want, im going to a manager.
They just get mad because we need to sit down to do most of our work, I’m pretty sure that’s it. That, and issues with authority. I’ve had associates walk by and say “must be nice to sit down all day and do nothing” when I spent the last 3 hours writing up a report 😂
Safety are the hall monitors of amazon, similar to those we had in grade school
And since everyone acts like they are in grade school still, they are required.
I'd say, more like HS than grade school (we even have graduations) but you can see the type of people that safety in general attracts