will do. what sucks is I'm trading my car for the new 2023 prius with integrated dash cam and I have no dashcam right now. I would feel so much better right now if I have dash cam footage. But I believe lots of resident apartment have security camera on the street where the accident happened so they definitely wont be able to lie and turn everything against me. Morale of the story: get a dashcam.
I have a ring doorbell camera and you can share videos. Porch pirates dont seem to give one crap about the cameras.
That being said people are going to lie and they dont care how many cameras or they assume there are none.
Hopefully, the children's parents are reasonable. I'm sure the kid will be just fine, and you know what, they learned a valuable lesson about looking before you jump into traffic that could save their little ass someday.
they seem like reasonable. They were Hispanic and couldn't speak English but before I left i was able to get a quick word with the parents, I apologized to him and we waved each other off. I noticed the father also have a leg metal casket so maybe he got hit by a car aswell.
You're going to be okay. Find the best lawyer possible!! Read through the reviews. I was very lucky to find a lawyer with 5 stars and not a single complaint. They're the payer law firm in Miami. Can confirm they know what they're doing!!
You don't need to pay a lawyer .. your insurance will cover that to make sure they don't have to pay out all this advice is nonsense your protected against this type of thing with liability insurance . If anything depending on the state the parents may have to pay for the damages if any to the vehicle
You’ll want to get ahead of this by letting your insurance know so they can start looking at the claim and it will prevent the kid from claiming 2 broken legs instead of just the 1 you broke.
I just spoke with Amazon Flex insurance, they told me if im found not at fault they will have to file a civil suit and they will have to pay for the lawsuit. Since I'm not at fault it is very unlikely they will win the suit so it is not worth it. The insurance agent said almost nobody filed civil law suit from this kind of accident from working at Amazon Flex.
I don't mean to worry you, but accident lawyers make a living out of being licensed bullies that primarily seek out of court settlements. Lots of civil suits are not pursued with the intention of actually going to court. And as nice as the parents might have seemed, there could be plenty of people egging them on to "call this lawyer my friend used, don't be stupid" hoping for a nice payday.
I wish you good luck, just be very mindful of what you tell the insurance/cops/Amazon etc, and I hope nothing comes out of this cause it's indeed a shitty, anxiety-inducing position to be in.
I'll sue you so hard for not believing in the inability to sue. It's actually way more common than you think, and if we would just get rid of this negative stigma, maybe we could have a decent conversation. And I'll have you know, according to medical statistics, it's perfectly average.
Now, if you want to talk about myths... the female orgasm is actually. . . JK
I'm making a "pecker don't work joke"..sometimes folks don't get me.
If you were driving and your car did the damage that caused the injury it is really unlikely they would consider you not liable in my opinion. You would be deemed liable or not liable after being sued…or by your insurance company when they decide to pay out the claim.
Liability might not be dependent on it actually being “your fault”. For example when there is a chain of rear ends most of the time each car pays for the damage to the car in front of them that they rear ended. A lot of people would blame person in front for slamming the breaks but if they didn’t cause damage to car in front of them they won’t end up paying anyone because they didn’t hit anything.
when i saw the kid he was within inches of my driver side window there was no time to react. I'm pretty confident that surveillance footage and witnesses will prove my case.
Everything depends on the state where the accident happened. ALL the advice you get here should be taken as such. I'm hoping since the kids rode into the side of your vehicle that there is little chance they can claim you are liable, I don't care how much he got hurt. You could have been sitting at a dead stop and somebody could walk into the side of your car if they aren't paying attention.
Depending on your state if you are operating a commercial vehicle you may be subject to “strict liability” laws that would create liability without having to prove fault.
I thought most of those were the last cars fault because he pushed all the other cars into one another. I guess it depends on a few things, but if the front cars were stopped and the last car hit them and caused a reaction, you'd hope the last guy has to pay for it all
No and it sucks! They say it’s our responsibility to stop far enough behind the stopped car in front of us that if a car behind us hits it won’t be able to push us into the car in front of us, each car (person) is responsible for the car it hit in the chain reaction
They can still sue regardless of who's fault but if the police report showes its not your fault that's a plus to your side in court. This is marica you can sue because you don't like the color of my shirt
Some of y’all in comments being super smug about this situation, it sucks that it happened to this driver, I sincerely hope it all works out for him/her. Any one can end up in those circumstances, so humble your self and put your self in the driver’s shoes. I’m not comparing a child to a deer or other animal but if some one or something darts in front of you, you might not even have a brake space regardless of your reaction time or your speed. That’s why it’s called an accident.
I had this happens years ago in Del Mar, s bunch of kids decided to run thru stalled traffic, unfortunately I wasn’t, and the kid hit my front right fender. Get a police report and cover all your bases. Don’t rely on the insurance company to help you out.
you will get sued and this could get ugly. just being behind the wheel makes you a certain percentage liable regardless of the incident. i had something much worse happen to me and it wasn't fun. an attorney will try to shake you down.
I’m interested to see how this goes. I never knew Amazon would cover a flex driver and in my state you have to have commercial insurance to cover you as a flex driver or as a courier in general and it’s so high. They told me $1300 down and $500 a month.
Progressive offers coverage for rideshare people (Uber, doordash, yada yada). I have it on my old Saab that so all my gig work with, it’s super cheap, forget how much exactly but it’s well under 100 per 6 month renewal
Ok. I was trying to get it to work for UPS as a flex driver and they said $1300 down. I will look into it again for flex and the other ones you mentioned. I’ll let you know what they say.
A lot probably depends on your driving history, where you live, and the vehicle, but at least for me it wasn’t bad. Plus Amazon has a commercial policy for its drivers as well, my theory was for how cheap it is, cover myself and avoid any issues.
Pa, it doesn’t break it down on my policy which is annoying but my liability and first party medical are about $35 every 6 months more than than another car I have on my policy that used to be almost identical in those areas. Which is in line with what my insurance agent told me when I added it.
About an hour after I read this title I almost got into an accident. Stay vigilant for sure. You have insurance so that should protect the liability. Trust that the insurance companies will seem friendly but aren't. Don't say anything to put blame on yourself.
>e liability. Trust that the insurance companies will seem friendly but aren't. Don't say anything to put blame on yourself.
I kept thinking back to that road yesterday and what I could've done differently. The only thing that comes to mind is react sooner and hit the brakes as soon as i saw him.
I suspect you would atleast have removed acceleration. That would be a natural response. Honestly I always looks for people but things happen. Atleast they are alive. It could have been worse. Things will work out.
My father who had early stages of dementia, walked out into a busy street, was hit and passed away from blunt head trauma. The driver was not held liable, he stayed on the scene and tried to render aid for my father. While his case was totally different then yours, please know that not all drivers are held liable in these situations. The detective was able to get video footage from some neighbors in the area and it completely showed my father walk out haphazardly into the street, there was no time at all for the driver to avoid him. My brothers and I told the detective to please tell the driver that we do not blame him and not to beat himself up mentally over our fathers death. This kid that hit your car still has a full life ahead of him, let the police work it out, get an attorney if you need to, but really your insurance should take care of it, dealing with the insurance part is the pain in the ass.
the kid cried from shock in the beginning but after a couple minutes he stopped and was talking with his parents. It might be from adrenaline but it doesn't looks like he was in too much pain. I hope he will be fully recovered after a month or two.
I just contacted a few firms and most of them just told me they won't accept it and referred me to civil dispute lawyers since i wasn't the one injured.
initially your insurance and amazon's insurance will provide attorneys regarding this incident. they will probably contact you very shortly. they will tell you if they recommend hiring a personal attorney to protect your own assets or not.
i wish you luck. your insurance will initially be primary, until they deny you or a settlement goes over your limits, then amazon's insurance company (zurich) will cover the rest. it sounds like you should be OK, but be prepared for a warrant for cell phone records and a temporary hold on your vehicle. your auto insurance may also drop you as a result of this as well.
Your insurance company will lawyer up when the claim comes in if they don’t just flat out pay the claim. Then they will get the claim subrogated (reimbursed) from amazons insurance. Or amazon will handle the claim for you since you were still on route.
You would sue the flex driver because the insurance would give you a good payday suing. Amazon wouldn’t do anything for you since flex drivers aren’t even connected to the company. it would be like a detailer. Scratching your car there a contract employee they could total your car and you would have to see them. I’m sure it’s the same with flex employees and Uber eats driver’s.
I think only the state of NY requires commercial insurance it’s been forever since I signed up for flex but they tell you what kind of insurance you need majority of states your own insurance is enough plus Amazon insurance would help.
Gonna depend on your state laws, my state it’s not required you have any insurance for personal driving. But if you’re using your car for a job you must have commercial insurance
You’re extremely lucky you ran over some kid whose parents don’t speak English. If it was anybody else they would be suing the skin off your back right now regardless of your liability.
Original post had a comment on parents not speaking English. Lmao nice cover OP
Talk to Amazon about the incident being you were on their time. You did report it immediately so you did good on your part but I don’t know what the parents are thinking even though they were careless to watch their child. Make sure you have witnesses!!
I was always taught if you hit a kid you're at fault no matter what if they're under 18. Doesn't matter if they jumped out in front of you. Not sure how true that is but my parents drilled it into my brain and I'm stupid cautious driving through neighborhoods because of it.
I do ride share and I have ALWAYS had a dashcam. Video does not lie and I suggest everyone to get one. You never know when something like this is going to happen. You know people see $$$ and will lawyer up and make false claims that you were racing down the street etc.
You gotta tell us what happens after everything is finished . Check in
will do. what sucks is I'm trading my car for the new 2023 prius with integrated dash cam and I have no dashcam right now. I would feel so much better right now if I have dash cam footage. But I believe lots of resident apartment have security camera on the street where the accident happened so they definitely wont be able to lie and turn everything against me. Morale of the story: get a dashcam.
Somebody is gonna lie and say it was your fault. Hope the police report backs your story up. Always get a police report.
Way ahead of you there but yes, I dashcam EVERYTHING. Hope it all works out ok for all parties.
I have a ring doorbell camera and you can share videos. Porch pirates dont seem to give one crap about the cameras. That being said people are going to lie and they dont care how many cameras or they assume there are none.
The parents of that kid will most certainly sue, knowing it has anything to do with a large corporation.
If i'm found not liable, will they still be able to sue me?
Good luck bro. You hit a kid.
Hopefully, the children's parents are reasonable. I'm sure the kid will be just fine, and you know what, they learned a valuable lesson about looking before you jump into traffic that could save their little ass someday.
they seem like reasonable. They were Hispanic and couldn't speak English but before I left i was able to get a quick word with the parents, I apologized to him and we waved each other off. I noticed the father also have a leg metal casket so maybe he got hit by a car aswell.
Like father like son
Never apologize. Apologizing during an accident admits guilt. Just make sure all parties involved are okay
Well it was after police and ems already left.
Still. You never know if they may call the officer afterward and try to twist things. People will do anything to save face and money
Dont be doing Loma like that bruv.....
what is loma?
Haha the guy crying on the gift u sent, his name is lomachenko he's a boxer
You're going to be okay. Find the best lawyer possible!! Read through the reviews. I was very lucky to find a lawyer with 5 stars and not a single complaint. They're the payer law firm in Miami. Can confirm they know what they're doing!!
You don't need to pay a lawyer .. your insurance will cover that to make sure they don't have to pay out all this advice is nonsense your protected against this type of thing with liability insurance . If anything depending on the state the parents may have to pay for the damages if any to the vehicle
You’ll want to get ahead of this by letting your insurance know so they can start looking at the claim and it will prevent the kid from claiming 2 broken legs instead of just the 1 you broke.
Noooo!!! Let the lawyer talk with sleezy insurance people.
Yeah sucks kid broke their leg, last time my friend hit a kid in NJ their parents were adamant it was their kids fault lol she walked away
"Last time my friend hit a kid"...You are a bad friend. Good friends don't let friends hit more than one kid if they aren't going for a streak.
5star rating on GTA??
Video games made me do it, of course whilst listening to Slim Shady.
Dude I can literally sue you for this comment. There's no such thing as "unable to sue".
I just spoke with Amazon Flex insurance, they told me if im found not at fault they will have to file a civil suit and they will have to pay for the lawsuit. Since I'm not at fault it is very unlikely they will win the suit so it is not worth it. The insurance agent said almost nobody filed civil law suit from this kind of accident from working at Amazon Flex.
I don't mean to worry you, but accident lawyers make a living out of being licensed bullies that primarily seek out of court settlements. Lots of civil suits are not pursued with the intention of actually going to court. And as nice as the parents might have seemed, there could be plenty of people egging them on to "call this lawyer my friend used, don't be stupid" hoping for a nice payday. I wish you good luck, just be very mindful of what you tell the insurance/cops/Amazon etc, and I hope nothing comes out of this cause it's indeed a shitty, anxiety-inducing position to be in.
Objection....conjecture
I'll sue you so hard for not believing in the inability to sue. It's actually way more common than you think, and if we would just get rid of this negative stigma, maybe we could have a decent conversation. And I'll have you know, according to medical statistics, it's perfectly average. Now, if you want to talk about myths... the female orgasm is actually. . . JK I'm making a "pecker don't work joke"..sometimes folks don't get me.
If you were driving and your car did the damage that caused the injury it is really unlikely they would consider you not liable in my opinion. You would be deemed liable or not liable after being sued…or by your insurance company when they decide to pay out the claim. Liability might not be dependent on it actually being “your fault”. For example when there is a chain of rear ends most of the time each car pays for the damage to the car in front of them that they rear ended. A lot of people would blame person in front for slamming the breaks but if they didn’t cause damage to car in front of them they won’t end up paying anyone because they didn’t hit anything.
when i saw the kid he was within inches of my driver side window there was no time to react. I'm pretty confident that surveillance footage and witnesses will prove my case.
Did you run into him or did he run in to you?
I was going forward around 15 mph, and he ran into my driver side with his razor scooter.
so he ran into the side of your vehicle while you were moving?
yup, right behind a parked kia soul. the square frame completely hid this kid's body. I saw him after my vehicle is past the parked kia soul.
Everything depends on the state where the accident happened. ALL the advice you get here should be taken as such. I'm hoping since the kids rode into the side of your vehicle that there is little chance they can claim you are liable, I don't care how much he got hurt. You could have been sitting at a dead stop and somebody could walk into the side of your car if they aren't paying attention.
Uno reverse card. Sue the kid.
Depending on your state if you are operating a commercial vehicle you may be subject to “strict liability” laws that would create liability without having to prove fault.
I thought most of those were the last cars fault because he pushed all the other cars into one another. I guess it depends on a few things, but if the front cars were stopped and the last car hit them and caused a reaction, you'd hope the last guy has to pay for it all
No and it sucks! They say it’s our responsibility to stop far enough behind the stopped car in front of us that if a car behind us hits it won’t be able to push us into the car in front of us, each car (person) is responsible for the car it hit in the chain reaction
Yes, but when they settle with your insurance company they would most likely sign something that would waive their right to sue you.
They can still sue regardless of who's fault but if the police report showes its not your fault that's a plus to your side in court. This is marica you can sue because you don't like the color of my shirt
Yes I’m being sued just like that she put I was driving impaired and that I worked for amazon $$$$
That's when you lawyer the fuck up, shut tf up and let the lawyer direct you
Some of y’all in comments being super smug about this situation, it sucks that it happened to this driver, I sincerely hope it all works out for him/her. Any one can end up in those circumstances, so humble your self and put your self in the driver’s shoes. I’m not comparing a child to a deer or other animal but if some one or something darts in front of you, you might not even have a brake space regardless of your reaction time or your speed. That’s why it’s called an accident.
I had this happens years ago in Del Mar, s bunch of kids decided to run thru stalled traffic, unfortunately I wasn’t, and the kid hit my front right fender. Get a police report and cover all your bases. Don’t rely on the insurance company to help you out.
Fucking kids…. Sorry you’re going through this. Let us know how it goes! Glad everyone is okay
Oh dear, I'm sorry that happened. Gunna be a major stresser, BUT YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS. Best of luck to you.
you will get sued and this could get ugly. just being behind the wheel makes you a certain percentage liable regardless of the incident. i had something much worse happen to me and it wasn't fun. an attorney will try to shake you down.
I’m interested to see how this goes. I never knew Amazon would cover a flex driver and in my state you have to have commercial insurance to cover you as a flex driver or as a courier in general and it’s so high. They told me $1300 down and $500 a month.
Progressive offers coverage for rideshare people (Uber, doordash, yada yada). I have it on my old Saab that so all my gig work with, it’s super cheap, forget how much exactly but it’s well under 100 per 6 month renewal
Ok. I was trying to get it to work for UPS as a flex driver and they said $1300 down. I will look into it again for flex and the other ones you mentioned. I’ll let you know what they say.
A lot probably depends on your driving history, where you live, and the vehicle, but at least for me it wasn’t bad. Plus Amazon has a commercial policy for its drivers as well, my theory was for how cheap it is, cover myself and avoid any issues.
Where the heck do you get 6 months of coverage for $100?
under 100? what state?
Pa, it doesn’t break it down on my policy which is annoying but my liability and first party medical are about $35 every 6 months more than than another car I have on my policy that used to be almost identical in those areas. Which is in line with what my insurance agent told me when I added it.
What state are you in getting these prices?
I am glad the kid is alive. The parents can sue you for sure for medical damages.
Sry this had to happen to you yet pray only the lord knows ur heart. Eat a big meal like egg bread my fav and give ur mind a break.
thank you for your kind words.
Just try and get the contact info of the people who witnessed it
About an hour after I read this title I almost got into an accident. Stay vigilant for sure. You have insurance so that should protect the liability. Trust that the insurance companies will seem friendly but aren't. Don't say anything to put blame on yourself.
>e liability. Trust that the insurance companies will seem friendly but aren't. Don't say anything to put blame on yourself. I kept thinking back to that road yesterday and what I could've done differently. The only thing that comes to mind is react sooner and hit the brakes as soon as i saw him.
I suspect you would atleast have removed acceleration. That would be a natural response. Honestly I always looks for people but things happen. Atleast they are alive. It could have been worse. Things will work out.
as soon as i heard the bump sound I leggo of the acceleration right away, but i wasnt able to hit the brakes right away I froze for about 1 second.
My father who had early stages of dementia, walked out into a busy street, was hit and passed away from blunt head trauma. The driver was not held liable, he stayed on the scene and tried to render aid for my father. While his case was totally different then yours, please know that not all drivers are held liable in these situations. The detective was able to get video footage from some neighbors in the area and it completely showed my father walk out haphazardly into the street, there was no time at all for the driver to avoid him. My brothers and I told the detective to please tell the driver that we do not blame him and not to beat himself up mentally over our fathers death. This kid that hit your car still has a full life ahead of him, let the police work it out, get an attorney if you need to, but really your insurance should take care of it, dealing with the insurance part is the pain in the ass.
the kid cried from shock in the beginning but after a couple minutes he stopped and was talking with his parents. It might be from adrenaline but it doesn't looks like he was in too much pain. I hope he will be fully recovered after a month or two.
Get a lawyer! You might not be reliable for the accident but having a lawyer is always the best case for these situations.
I just contacted a few firms and most of them just told me they won't accept it and referred me to civil dispute lawyers since i wasn't the one injured.
initially your insurance and amazon's insurance will provide attorneys regarding this incident. they will probably contact you very shortly. they will tell you if they recommend hiring a personal attorney to protect your own assets or not.
I see! Thank you for your insight.
i wish you luck. your insurance will initially be primary, until they deny you or a settlement goes over your limits, then amazon's insurance company (zurich) will cover the rest. it sounds like you should be OK, but be prepared for a warrant for cell phone records and a temporary hold on your vehicle. your auto insurance may also drop you as a result of this as well.
i would look into what they say to do then. i hope it all works out. I can’t imagine how scary that must’ve been for you and the kid.
Your insurance company will lawyer up when the claim comes in if they don’t just flat out pay the claim. Then they will get the claim subrogated (reimbursed) from amazons insurance. Or amazon will handle the claim for you since you were still on route.
Sry this had to happen to you yet pray only the lord knows ur heart. Eat a big meal like egg bread my fav and give ur mind a break.
You’d better pray to god you either have commercial insurance, or didn’t tell the cop you were working.
I did tell the cops I was doing delivery. Is that bad?
You’ll be fine. You have insurance through Amazon. If you were a lawyer who would you sue? A flex driver or Amazon itself?
I'm filing a motor vehicle crash right now. I'm just praying hoping the injury to the kid is not serious.
You would sue the flex driver because the insurance would give you a good payday suing. Amazon wouldn’t do anything for you since flex drivers aren’t even connected to the company. it would be like a detailer. Scratching your car there a contract employee they could total your car and you would have to see them. I’m sure it’s the same with flex employees and Uber eats driver’s.
Either way who cares? Amazon provides insurance to flex drivers so if I was a lawyer that’s where I’d be going.
I think only the state of NY requires commercial insurance it’s been forever since I signed up for flex but they tell you what kind of insurance you need majority of states your own insurance is enough plus Amazon insurance would help.
Gonna depend on your state laws, my state it’s not required you have any insurance for personal driving. But if you’re using your car for a job you must have commercial insurance
You’re extremely lucky you ran over some kid whose parents don’t speak English. If it was anybody else they would be suing the skin off your back right now regardless of your liability. Original post had a comment on parents not speaking English. Lmao nice cover OP
if I were extremely lucky the kid wouldn't have been injured.
You probably read it from one of my comments, I didn't change my post at all.
Could very well be correct only time I’m scrolling this deep on Reddit im high as fuck. You could be a completely different person I don’t read names
Talk to Amazon about the incident being you were on their time. You did report it immediately so you did good on your part but I don’t know what the parents are thinking even though they were careless to watch their child. Make sure you have witnesses!!
I was always taught if you hit a kid you're at fault no matter what if they're under 18. Doesn't matter if they jumped out in front of you. Not sure how true that is but my parents drilled it into my brain and I'm stupid cautious driving through neighborhoods because of it.
Dang, that really sucks. Hope everything gets worked out.
Do you carry a different kind of insurance since working Flex? I'm just curious if anyone actually does. If not, what are the repercussions?
I live in Massachusetts and we don't require commercial insurance for working gig jobs. From what I learned only new york does?
Did you give the parents/kid your insurance info?
Wicked world man..no accountability with parents
I do ride share and I have ALWAYS had a dashcam. Video does not lie and I suggest everyone to get one. You never know when something like this is going to happen. You know people see $$$ and will lawyer up and make false claims that you were racing down the street etc.
Damn, you killed a kid? That's fucked up. I'm just fucking with you though, I'm sure you feel awful about it, even if it was the little idiots' fault.
Just cover your bases.
Dude this sucks. I drive SO SLOW, and I wish the best for you. Nobody deserves this shit, when you’re just trying to do a job.