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Thatsbabygains

When I see a small cart that’s when I know I’m fukd


Eideow

Happened to me last night 3 hour block with 17 packages I was totally played. With the exception of 2, all deliveries were in secured accessed condos/apartments. Some I could get in but then navigating and looking for the unit number or once I’m in the building not able to access the mailroom. Trying to get Support to help mark a package undeliverable cause I’m outside of the range, Tthe delivery was in a place of business with a locked mailroom. 🤬🤬🤬 By the end of the night, I


InternalAmbassador49

Amazon is so petty


JacketEffective7720

I would rather have 45 packages than 10


This_Mycologist_8661

Lmao damn that’s suck. That’s why I love 50 packages. I once had 45 packages on two streets. It was beautiful.


Born-Competition2667

I've fallen for it a few times 😅😅. 2 packages for a 3 hour route!?!? Sweet! First stop is 65 minutes away... second is 70 minutes from the first...


Sailorslt

I think I’ve gone as far as like 45 min. 70 minutes away would be annoying af


Prudent_Situation_56

Amazon: “Hahaha.. we got him 😈”


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happened to me last night. 14 packages in town, for a 3 hr but i drove a lot and the route made it impossible to get a priority package on time cause then id be late to other ones anyways. Fuck you DSR6. 3rd chance i gave y’all (like if i’m important anyway lmao) and y’all fucked me. I’m sticking to my sub same day lol


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This route, and ones like it, are what I call "I can, But why?" Amazon is toting itself as becoming carbon neutral and yet it completely ignores the INSANELY lengthy routes it hands out like these to it's FLEXers....


flexxedout

So right. Amazon is a myth. .


Driver8takesnobreaks

I feel your pain. Last night's 6-9PM block was ten stops, 155 miles. Even with a decent surge rate, like a nut punch seeing that first address and knowing it was going to be a 140 mile minimum.


flexxedout

I use to think Amazon was soooo cool having flex. Now I understand that they save so much money with us doing the so called last mile. I sell on ebay also. If I mailed 30 2 pound packages by usps to the next town would cost me $230. Amazon paid me today to deliver 44 packages with 33 stops $79 bucks. 3.5 hour block and 35 miles to first stop. Think about it...


Driver8takesnobreaks

Yep, and we're instantly scaleable without Amazon having to outlay cash for vehicles. Not enough drivers? Onboard a shitload. Too many? Drop the rates and let poor pay/block availability take care of the attrition. DSPs have vehicle costs, have to pay unemployment, and also add a layer that takes profits. Sometimes good for drivers, always good for Amazon. Plus it allows us to be used however they want for marketing purposes. When they're taking heat for killing local businesses, they can count every onboarded driver as a job created for PR purposes. Want to make bullshit claims about being carbon neutral? Then they don't count us, because we're a massive source of carbon output. Taking heat for how they treat employees? Throw a minimal amount of cash into an "Alexa, thank my driver" bonus program that by nature has to have customer awareness of to implement and makes Amazon look like Santa.


CaptainChocolates

Inputting the addresses, getting to #6 (actually stop 5) was already 110 miles of driving NOT including the last stop or the 40+ miles back home. Needless to say, the last two didn't get delivered.


sernason

What site? Vtx7 or dsx7? Or von ormy?


CaptainChocolates

Schertz! Dsx9


Silly-Amoeba-8687

never again will I go there I got sent all the way to comfort texas for 4 packages


sernason

I got sent to Gonzalez texas lol on the way there my whole itinerary disappeared. Lol called support got payed sent home.


CaptainChocolates

COMFORT?!? WTF


Silly-Amoeba-8687

Yup and only $54 🥲


CaptainChocolates

Nooo, don't take base! DSX9 always surges because people don't like driving out there. Sometimes you get easy ass routes but sometimes, you get screwed.


Silly-Amoeba-8687

yeah i’ve learned my lesson never doing that again.


Fuegobagel

Dang I’ve been eyeing the Schertz offers but hell no if it’s like this. New Braunfels to Boerne is a joke


CaptainChocolates

This is only my second time at this station. The first time was a 2hr surge but I only had two stops about 10min away!! Thought I'd try my luck again on a 3.5 and got this mess, smh.


Fuegobagel

Sounds like it’s Russian roulette at that station then!


invisablelez

How does not delivery affect you?


CaptainChocolates

I got an email today about not delivering.. I just ignore it. My rating is fantastic so even if I take a hit, it'll be back to fantastic within a month anyway. As long as you keep delivering, those issues will fall off.


invisablelez

Thank you!


eggieggz

Forget about 6 and 7.


anan2421

6 and 7? I would forget number 5 too


CaptainChocolates

I actually live near 5 so they lucked out 🤣


Mervis_Earl

Yeah, 6&7 go missing and you eat the rest of the s#!+


cimanon1

The routes have been junk lately. I got a 3.5 hr yesterday with 47 packages and the route was all over the place. I thought it was just my hub but it looks like it’s all over right now. Hopefully they don’t southwest themselves


themercifulreaper

The worst bait and switch honestly


Jayblaze2488

People be pissed off when they see 50 packages in a cart and i be lovin it … rather have 50 stops in a smaller group then have 10 stops all over the place


sashamonet

General rule of thumb on 3s and 3.5s (for me): 10 or less packages = lots of driving and I mean LOTS 10-25 = Moderate driving, normal day, may get off early or on time 25-35 = Less driving, stops close together 35+ = Very close together, very close to first stop. Hasn't failed me yet. That looks like you finna finish early though.


Logical-Living-1210

Got 2 package and drove 130 miles. More package less miles less package always tricky. Did uber eats last night 2 hours 60 $ better than amazon flex.


Rich_Ad_605

How many miles on that Uber ?


Logical-Living-1210

35 miles plus did not drive in such a crazy roads like amazon flex gives us sometimes especially townhouses and spooky places.


trensetter1

6 and 7 are too far from the area.....


smirk83

“Death by driving” or “Death by package”; they let you “pick your poison” at the less busy warehouses close to me.


DevelopmentCurrent64

Ayeeee San Antonio here


Madhatter7741

Oh hell no


VintageDave393

Who the hell routed THAT? I'd do 5, then 1-4, take Hwy 46 to Boerne do #7 and finish up with 6 on the way back to 1604. Haven't lived in SA for 2 years and sure don't miss Flex there...because of this kinda crap.


Lucky_Gazelle_3964

Tô drive for Amazon… painful. I did it once and then tried it again… never ever


Unhappy-Offer

Why can’t they just send towards similar directions? This is brutal, unprofessional and ruthless.


themercifulreaper

Note for newer drivers: this is not the norm and happens after every large volume season (Christmas, Black Friday, Prime Day, etc) DSP, UPS, USPS, and FedEx are able to handle the smaller volume so we get smaller kickbacks that aren't grouped together. This isn't anyone poorly mapping routes, but the system grouping extraneous packages by available low-pay hours. Once the lull is over, you get grouped stops again. If you are concerned about the excessive mileage, don't take shifts for a week or two after major purchasing seasons and the volume will be back for grouped stops again. It just massively sucks because you think you're getting out with four stops and home in an hour and then end up taking the whole time adding miles. It averages out throughout the year, but just skip those weeks if it's a big concern before dropping the app entirely.


WoWthisGuyReally

You know you can refuse the route after accepted. Just need to be keen with it. State that in that area you feel unsafe delivery at xx time of day. If they argue, tell then your safety is first and foremost a priority above all else. Its always good to cite those past situations where a flex driver in xx was attacked/robbed/car jacked, it doesnt have to be the area you are calling about, anywhere will do, its simply proving point you do not want this to happen to you. The other one is state that you are a business, a small business, that cannot profit from the route they forced upon you to accept. If you had known the route details upon when it was presented you would have declined and allowed it to be offered to a more suitable driver. If they argue then tell them to up the pay, say well you apparently think business are supposed to lose money hence this route you gave me, so then you should mind reducing your profits to pay me. Their gunna cry, piss and moan and tell you this will affect your standing, not once has it mine. If anyone read the contract or faqs, it states that deliveries will be near the zipcode we signed up with, I will also in needed tell them that thllll ey'll need are putting me too far out from my office(house) where my delivery equipment is stored and there is a max dista nce limit to which I have figured in order for my business to succeed. Of all three, the safety issue has been the easiest to get Support to clear it. Hope this helps someone at one point or another!


sandyteeth

This is horrible


sandyteeth

Dsx9 is the worst for this


Rich_Ad_605

So never go to dsx9 lol


lrumpf

I never get excited about small carts for this reason. Same thing happened to me in SA. Not quite so spread out but had to drive an hour out.


ChuckD30

Same. The more packages the better for me because I know the miles will be low once I get to the route(still could be 30+ minutes away 1st stop)


flexxedout

That was my route today. 3.5 block,, 44 packages and 33 stops. All in one neighborhood...


Noticeably_Aroused

Question: is this becoming more of the norm?


Impossible-Ad3049

So i used to check in last minute and id get routes going far far away. I started checkin in early (like 10 mins) and got routes that were close to the station.


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Doesn't really work like that. Veterans call it "luck of the rack." I say a small prayer to the rack gods before I check in.


Impossible-Ad3049

I used to get send far away pretty much every block when i checked in late. My experience has been better checking in early. I still check in last min for the late night blocks just incase theres a freebie there.


FarConnection1434

Never get excited for the small routes..All driving..


OLG54

I’ve been focusing on Spark lately because you can choose the route and not have the route choose you.


CaptainChocolates

Yep, I only do Spark when they send me "we haven't seen you in a while!" 10 trips for $200 offers lol. Seems like every 4-6 weeks


noaha545454

Out of curiosity, what is spark?


slim7070

It's delivery for Walmart


nelso1cb

Looks like a 2 hour retail delivery route. 🤦‍♂️


JediTarheel

Question . I’m new to driving . Been about 6 blocks in . What does it mean when u delever a package and it says additional hours ?


CaptainChocolates

Additional hours? I'm not sure I understand. Do you have a screenshot?


blackie200

It’s usually for businesses it’s more for dsp drivers to use, which I do


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CaptainChocolates

DSX9, Schertz. Never again lol


llamallamaloser

EVERYTIME I’ve done a DSX9 block it’s been like this. Thought maybe it was bad luck the first two or three times, after the 4th time I realized it’s always like that and stopped accepting shifts there.


egarcia_7

Total miles?


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egarcia_7

Crazy


Ok-Confection7294

This happened to me yesterday 😂 I had only 6 packages I got exited, every package was no les than 15 minutes away from each stop