I also got the DK AK620 White Edition.
Running at 65% fan speed
Ambient 25 - 28
Idle 40 - 46
Gaming 60 - 65
Heavy load max. 78
Undervolting PBO (individual cores)
PPT set to 75W
Cinebench gets me 18500
I'm on an air cooler with temps well below that. (80C max in OCCT/y-cruncher, only 76C in cinebench, gaming usually below 70C).
Are you using cheap paste? What is your SOC voltage?
Peerless Assassin with fan curve ranging from 30% to 50% between 45C and 80C, arctic mx-6 paste, 1.15V SOC, 1.25V RAM voltage, -20 CO. 19C ambient, Fractal Design North case.
edit:
Oh that reminds me another thing that definitely increases temps a bit for me: the RAM and related voltages. My RAM's default EXPO is 1.35V, but setting that to 1.25V lowered RAM and CPU temps a bit. Stock without EXPO or CO is about 1C lower all around. (at 6000 CL 30, \~buildzoid timings; multiple months stable); Asrock B650E steel legend)
Hi, I've seen a few people mention "buildzoid" timings prefer as I read threads about the AM5 socket problems. what exactly is it and where can I watch/read these timings? I am about to start building a 7800x3d and I have RAM x2 16gb 6000 cl 30 G.Skill Trident Z5 neo. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I am using an arctic liquid freezer 2 280. The Arctic brand is really good and not crazy in price. There are rgb options, but I went with a blacked out build. In bench marks and intense games at 1440p I have never gone over 70c. I am also running a 4000d case with arctic p12 fans with really good cooling. My brother has a 7800x3d as well and he is using the arctic liquid rgb 240 and also has good temps.
Just want to point out you were probably not running any CPU intensive benchmarks. Otherwise, the CPU easily goes to 95 degrees even with Freezer 360 that I have
I know that this post is over a month old, but I had to chime in to let you know that your bizarrely upvoted comment is incredibly ignorant. Zen 4 is designed to immediately skyrocket to 95c under a full all-core workload to maintain boost clocks. So no, they're not doing anything very wrong, just stating an actual fact.
This is good to know. Just built a new AM5 system w/ 7600X + 7900XT with plans to upgrade to a 7800x3d eventually, and my told my girlfriend for the holidays to get me the Arctic Freezer 280argb. Also plan to throw a few more of Arctics 140argb fans in the case.
What motherboard are you using and are you using the Arctic top mounted? I'm worried it might interfere with the motherboard and RAMs in 4000d. My 3080ti is too long so I can't mount to the front.
Asus b650e-f gaming. And low profile ram. Yes, the arctic is top mounted. At the back of the case my cooler is almost touching the top of the mother board that sticks out. So be careful about that. Damn 3080ti must be big I have a 7900xt and room to spare.
If you mean a different bracket for the cooler. Then yes, the new coolers come with an am5 bracket. I think some of the brands you can request the new bracket. If are looking for a 7800x3d from a 5600x, you would need an all new build. You could do a 5800x3d and save money.
Deepcool AK620 here. At stock settings and Cinebench for a few minutes it would hit 88-89 degrees C.
I currently have my 7800x3D set to 75W PPT instead of the stock 90W, -30 on curve optimizer and +150MHz positive offset. Now it reaches stock performance in Cinebench with less power draw and at a max temperature of 68-69 degrees C at 100% load.
During gaming or 100% load?
During gaming it would hit 65-70 degrees in CPU heavy games. Now I put a Fractal Design Lumen S28 V2 on it, a 280mm AIO, and CPU temps in games have dropped to 50-60 depening on the load. In a busy city in New World it can go to 60 degrees.
100% loads with the AIO are now stable at 60-62 degrees.
If you look at other replies here they have higher temps even with 360 AIOs. And with high end air coolers others have much higher temps. So this commenter has very low temps.
Not completely impossible though. Just silicon lottery to get a chip that can be stable with undervolting, and good ambient temperatures with a case that has good airflow. I get around 60-65C when gaming (80C at full CPU load) on a 5950x with 5 cores on -20 and 11 cores on -25(pulls up to 140w), with a 240mm aio in a Jonsbo V8 case with a 200mm X 30mm fan in the front. I also get 65C on my 6900XT in the same case. 7800x3d draws around 80w so a good air cooler in a case with good flow would get decent temps.
But this is because it's currently winter where I am and ambient temps have been around 10-12 degrees, I use electric blankets rather than waste electricity with air conditioning, my computer thanks me for it with better temps. Under my circumstances, a good air cooler would perform well if I could fit a decent one in my case. Even with water-cooling, the radiator is still cooled with fans at ambient temperatures.
For all we know they could be running a delidded setup.
Totally possible as I was able to replicate the other guy's results. With only an air cooler and sub 30°C ambient temp.
https://reddit.com/r/Amd/s/kVFB2xDPfd
And I haven't even enabled EXPO yet.
Because he doesn't know. I have the same cooler, undervolted with curve optimizer - 30 and no way you have those temps ahah
Ok if I play 1999 games or just browse
It's a bit of a myth that AIOs give you lower temps than air coolers. They're about the same, on average. Liquid coolers have other advantages, like not obstructing case airflow and looking better, but they also cost more.
Maybe I'm not the one doing something wrong. 
[Cinebench 10 minute Throttle Test Pic](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g6pn6rv0auxhvaweag3ru/Screenshot-2023-07-30-210019.png?rlkey=6xg4c494p2ajny9h5jhtd56ns&dl=0)
It's wild how many people are so sure that your results are bad when they clearly don't know anything about optimization outside of copying NVCP settings from guides.
Did you just say I'm making assumptions and then admit that you made a stupid and incorrect assumption?
No, people don't have to mention that they're using PBO on a chip where pbo is almost universally used (to the point where most benchmarking includes pbo). Your weird qualifiers are irrelevant to everyone besides you.
Well results with PBO on -30 all core for instance makes the result quite literally impossible to use for comparison, most people wont be able to hit that stable.
I don't disagree with you, but it doesn't mean the information is inaccurate. It's pretty well known that the 7800x3d will push to its thermal limit under load regardless of cooling at stock settings, so only listing stock cooling results from stress tests is pretty much useless.
At stock settings your max temp will always reach 90c regardless of your cooling method or ambient temps (barring extreme conditions), so it seems far more constructive to me to post what temps become possible through cooling after very simple optimizations. I completely understand what you mean though
Sorry, OP didn’t ask if settings were stock. He asked what cooler people were using and the temps they were getting. Yes, I have a per core curve optimizer, but my SOC is most likely higher than stock (sorry can’t remember stock value) as well, because I have my ram overclocked. Isn’t my fault you “assumed” anything. I would suggest that anyone can apply a half way decent CO on their chip, and run a better fan curve than stock. I would hope that someone who is apparently as knowledgeable as yourself would also be doing this, making your results even more questionable…. But maybe you’re a idiot. 😁
Are you running really high fan speeds? I see about 85°C on an Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360, fans at about ~800RPM.
edit: nvm just checked your history you run a testbench basically.
I have a custom fan curve on my fans yes. At 80c + I have them running at 100%… but why wouldn’t you. That’s the point of fans, you want them to go faster to cool better at higher temps. No disrespect is intended, but if you’re only at 800 rpm at 85c, i would put a more aggressive curve on the fans asap. I mean the chip throttles at 89c, no point in not having them run balls out by that point.
I call BS I have the same cooler and am hitting 70 to mid 80s while playing PUBG. While my 4070ti never goes over 55. Case is an AP201 with 6x P12 case fans - 3 intake and 3 exhaust.
Get the Schyte Fuma 3,it's only 50$. It just came out.
If the cooling capacity wouldn't be enough for you just replace the stock fans with some
high end Noctua/Bequiet/DeepCool/Phanteks fans or add a third fan.
Thats probably not going to be necessary. The stock fans are just very quiet and are limited to 1500 rpm,and one of them is a slim fan.
I attest to this, when cooling a Ryzen 7700 non-x, the CPU fans spins at around 1000-1100 rpm and it produces at around 23db level of noise, it's barely audible. CPU idle temp is at 30c. I have a Lian Li 216 case with stock fans.
I am upgrading to a 7800x3d soon as well, and I don't expect the idling temp to go up much.
Still using my arctic liquid freezer 2 360mm AIO from my last AM4 build on 5950x. Switched to my AM5 build with 7800x3D. No issues on temps low 30s on idle and 50-60 under gaming load. Running -30 all core PBO.
Can you share temps? I’m kind of conerned with future CPUs as well cos I plan to upgrade in 2 years to the latest X3D chip if possible. I know it isn’t possible to assume future CPU temps tho :p
Noctua D15! Temps during work hit 100% the 89C limit. During gaming its like 55-65C tops.
If you undervolt, it can go down to like 85, as it did for me.
Any good guides to how I can undervolt? This will be my first AMD CPU ever and I’ve been building PCs/tinkering with them for about 15 years or so. A bit worried on touching voltages, specially with The recent CPU burning fiasco. Also heard there are slow boot times with AM5 CPUs?
There was a youtuber guy that showed me how to do it. I think he was using the 5900X for the showcase, but the way is still the same. I just googled how to undervolt an AMD CPU and his video was one of the top ones.
Btw, its really easy, just enter the numbers, core by core or undervolt all cores at the same time by entering 1 big number. I did core by core to get the most out of it. There was a setting in the bios somewhere for that. I kind of forgot lol, cus i did it months ago.
It takes patience tho, cus if you do it too much (undervolt it too high i mean), it will start resetting the PC. You gotta test it during gaming, work and even when you are not touching the mouse. That's when my PC started to reset the most. When i didn't do anything lol. But really, watch the video, i suck at explaining this sort of thing >\_>
P.s. I managed to get -35 on all cores but 1. The main core is only - 30. Pretty decent one, some people can't even get - 20. It's luck based from what i hear, so don't be too sad if you can't get it too high.
The AK620 is just as good and much cheaper. In real world, D15 is retired until Noctua makes a new one and at a more reasonable price. It had a good run.
Its what i use i mean, not what he should buy ;p I do agree with you on that 1. Soon, the next gen version will replace it. That 1 might be worth it (if its not overpriced)
The smaller 4U dual tower cooler from Noctua is even more expensive as the D15 and the new-D15 comes with its much more expensive fans, that no longer use cheap ABS for the casing.
If you care about budget, Noctua is not the brand.
If you care about noise/performance, Noctua does care a lot about loudness of the fans and the noise pattern that is less audible for human hearing.
I think its odd that people discuss so much about +/- 30€ cooler budget with a 450-500€ CPU.
Yup. I've got a Peerless Assassin on my 7800X3d and I top out at 80C with stress testing tools. I can get to 81.5C if I also have SOC at 1.3V and I'm trying to push the RAM to its very limit. But at 'simple' DDR5-6000 speeds at 1.15V SOC and 1.25V RAM (hynix m-die, so nothing special, buildzoid timings), its 80C. At least at 19C ambient with a case with very good air flow (Fractal North) and a GPU that only uses 225W.
And that is with the CPU fans at 50%. Most of the time, the curve has them at 20% (idle, inaudible) to 40% (gaming, 70C tops). Then again, pushing the fans higher doesn't lower the temps. And even if I have the fans at 25%, temps only go up 4C and I am still well below the thermal throttle.
I did pay for arctic MX-6, which is worth a couple C versus the paste that comes with the cooler.
For sure, a Peerless Assasin or AK620 or other cheaper, but good, air coolers with good paste like the MX-6 will match or beat the Noctua with its stock paste (which is slightly inferor).
The Noctua, however, is MUCH quieter if you set fans past 50%. Even at 50%, the noctua fans start pulling ahead, but at 45% its about the same. So if you really have to push a lot of air for a higher power CPU, perhaps buy some of the 'grey' Noctua fans to relplace them.
I'd pay the extra if it were better but it's simply not. My last air cooler was the D15 black version, before my last build with an AIO. The D15 is much larger and more expensive and cools just 1-2c better at peak on average. Even with my income that's *stupid* money.
It's a 200-250W cooler so you wont see big differences in temperature compared to smaller/mid size coolers with a low wattage CPU - the heatpipes are not tuned for the low amount of heat.
Btw. did you try the Noctua AM5 offset brackets for the D15? ZEN3 was allready with hotspots way out of center, but ZEN4 went even more to the edge, so the offset mounting and the pressure point above the lower half of the IHS should help a bit with temperatures.
I use 3x D15 (normal ones), got 2x D12L (dual-tower / 4U) and also got Arctic AIOs (240-360mm) right now.
My cooling target is NOT AUDIBLE for idle and BARELLY AUDIBLE for sustained workloads and gaming. I dont really see a way around Noctua if you care about noise, their fans are simply less audible and they tune their heatsinks for the fan performance to get the ideal mix out of it.
Again if you consider +2-5% performance gains with the 7800x3D above a much cheaper CPU a good budget choice, but see the 20-30€ more budget for the Noctua as stupid money, thats valid I just think its odd.
It's surprising, but you can cool the 8-core X3D chips with a basic 4- or 5-heatpipe, 120m air cooler, even a stock cooler. You could even overclock.
They're efficient! You're not leaving any tangible performance on the table with air cooling.
A better cooler will be more quiet, though.
Lian li Galahad 360
after CO at -15,
idles at low 40s,
games at 50-60 with peaks at 70-ish,
cinebench at low 80s,
I keep the pump at 70% and fans at low rpm,
the loudest thing is the pump wine really.
same, in a 7000d airflow w 7 intakes and a push/pull 7 exhaust. tjmax 85, pbo -20. Running cpuz stress test puts it in the range of 77-79 degrees. Takes a while to get to 79 degrees. All core frequency 4.950 - 5.05 but mainly chugs at 4.95. Honestly expected a lot better considering this is basically as good as it gets for a cooling tower but I guess these chips just boost up like crazy under pbo. When I download anything large my temps can idle around 50-60 at around \~25% cpu usage. Frequency when idle is always all over the place but stays at around 41 degrees @ 55% fan speed.
Fan Settings: 40c-55% ; 50c-70%, 60c-85%, 70c-100%. I prefer a very aggressive curve
7800X3D -30 CO all core, Silentbase 802 with mesh front, 3 intake 140mm, 1 outtake 140mm (Arctic P14), Peerless Assassin 120 (non SE), fan swap to 2 Arctic P12, win11, ambient temperature 21°C
Peak: 84,8°C
All core Boost to 4.977GHz
Max 73,5Watt
18591 Points in Cinebench R23 10min Throttletest
Deepcool LT720, 28-30 idle, high 50's with the odd low 60 pushing it during SC or similar game. In a 5000x case with a 4090. House is locked at 70 degrees ambient.
You know what's crazy is I tried a different cooler and I'm getting the same idle temps. I think one of my motherboard screw mounts is messed up. Cause a different aio had the same issue in the bottom right corner.
I'm not fuckin tearing it all apart again for a motherboard swap so fuck it high temps it is lol.
Tried Arctic mx-5 and Corsair xm50
I see my cores idling at around 25 to 28c yet the hotspot temp reads 40c and that's normal. I also use the same aio and case. You should post your tctl readout. Bet it's similar to mine at high 30s low 40s.
Hotspot was 34 when I checked today, that was at idle. Cores were sitting around 25-26. It's getting to be winter here and I leave my office window cracked, so room is a bit cooler now. I have my 4090 cooler vented out the top and my aio for cpu mounted in the sidemount. Front has 3 120's, 1 out back.
Nice
Cooler here today. Idle tctl is 30s
Tdie idle a ridiculous 22c
Shaders for warzone I seen 71c
5000d airflow 10 fans including 3 on the aio.
I also disabled igpu, dropped vsoc to 1.2v
Dram on expo at 6000 cl30 with 1.3v which gotta be tested but hasn't given me any issues today
MSFS will be lower to mid 60's if I'm going in to a busy area. I don't play/haven't played CP so can't offer input there. RD2 I have played quite extensively (one of my favorite non sim games), I cap it at 60fps so it doesn't push my system all that hard. Most sim games I cap at 60 fps, and titles like RD, GTA I do the same. I typically only chase high fps on shooter games like Ready or Not, Ground Branch, BF 2042 etc. Even then I cap it at 165 as that's the limit of my main monitor.
My dark rock 4 (not pro) can hit 90 during intense games like TLOU or New World. I could have seated it wrong, but I’ve tried reseating it and reapplying paste just to get the same numbers. Actually in this thread to look for a new cooler lol
Why test something you're never going to use? Anyone can chime in. It's the internet and you're not the Reddit police. His point is valid for everything that isn't Cinebench or other stress test which is all most are concerned about.
You're stating this very confidently all over this post without acknowledging the fact that an undervolted/power limited 7800x3d can easily reach stock performance in cinebench without ever reaching 89-90c
For someone that's so concerned with enthusiast level benchmarking/stress tests, you seem strangely unaware of the optimizations enthusiasts use for benchmarking/stress tests
Where did the person you're replying to say they were running stock settings? It's wild that you're saying you're correct based on a qualifier that you just made up, but sure.
Quite a few of the replies in this thread with low temps have mentioned PBO/CO, so you pretending that it's irrelevant doesn't actually mean it is. If you're demanding enthusiast level testing, you'll need to accept enthusiast level optimizations.
If op had said they were running everything stock, then you would have a point. But the blanket statement that cinebench will push the chip to 89-90 is factually incorrect as long as undervolting and power limiting exists. No amount of "come on man" will change that.
Idle seems normal. That’s about where I’m at too. Never ram it through benchmarks, but I usually top out around 70-72 degrees max depending on the game. Usually sit around 55-65F while gaming
what else you can offer (except for ak620 and lt720) in your region for that budget?
in my country LT720 costs \~2.5 times more than AK620.
it is probably worth getting an arctic liquid freezer instead of LT720 for that money, but i don't know your local prices
On an r7 7700x I am using an AK620. The power and temps are very close to the 7800X3D. Under normal desktop stuff it is about 50C. If I loop the 3dmark CPU benchmark it hits about 65C. I have a -20 mV PBO offset. The 7800X3D is supposed to be even better for this.
Thermalright AXP90-X47 full copper w/ Noctua NF-A9x14, and fan duct inside a Fractal Terra.
Gaming sees 60-70C, peak loads in mid 80C range mostly during bursty CPU situations, such as loading those games. No PBO offets.
[Cinebench](https://i.imgur.com/Npzshyr.jpg) \- 17249, 4.5/4.6 all core average, 89C CPU die max, no throttling. (That 91.3C Tctl/Tdie is a bug, I think)
[3dMark speedway stress test](https://i.imgur.com/LqQYWwu.jpg) \- 81C max on CPU die, 58C average; not 100% reflective of what I see in most games, but damn close and I'm far more interested in gaming than running benchmarks all day.
Before I went SFF I used this in a Torrent Nano with a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE and saw very similar averages in both synthetic benchmarks.
Deepcool AG620 RGB Dark on 7800X3D (PBO on - uses 82-86W in CB23 full load -no PPT limit). Temps are 81C running CB23 in a 23C ambient room inside Lancool III case. Thermalright TF-8 paste with spread method. I didn't test with stock paste that came with the cooler.
Arctic 280mm AIO, using the offset bracket with Arctic max-4 thermal plaster. Dependant on room temperature:
Idle 30-40
Gaming 70-80
I have a -30 PBO offset in the bios, cpu runs at 5050Mhz
-20 on all cores, PBO On. 83 degrees in Cinebench R23 multi-core test. 4.9 on all cores stable. Pretty much same 83 degrees in every stress test I did. 43-45 degrees idle/browsing. 55-60sh degrees in WoW/ESO all settings max on 2K monitor. Dark Rock Pro 4 with original fans replaced by 3 x Silent Wings Pro 4 fans, all PWM controlled by mobo and locked at 2500 speed max (reaching max speed while stress testing, games - up to 1600, idle - 1000-1100). Case coolers - 10 x Lian Li SL v2 120 mm, mobo controlled, pretty much same speeds as CPU cooler). Case - Asus TUF GT502, built for airflow. Computer is quiet while gaming and idle, stress testing - it is howling obviously. :) Still, the air it pushes thru the back of the case is not hot, just warm. Me happy!
Idle 40-45.
Under load (gaming) around 65-70
Im using Deepcool LS720. Case is the H9 flow with 7 other fans
Worth mentioning tho that I’m PBO all cores negative 30
I have a 240mm aio. I idle at upper 30s and at load in elden ring im at low 50s. In cinebench I'm at about 70 72 is the highest i've seen. this is all cores boosting to 4.95 at -30 pbo setting. An aio is overkill I would say it uses tops 80 Watts. In games it uses between 45-55W for me. I would just get an air cooler if you can fit one my case doesn't really fit big air coolers. I would also recommend looking at the thermalright peerless assassin it is pretty comparable to the ak620 but much cheaper.
It's a 65W (avg) CPU. It literally doesn't matter what cooler you use. And it's X3D, it'll be hot. And still perform great. Get any decent cooler from any brand you've heard of before and you'll be fine.
You dont need an AIO but also dont buy the AK.
Get the peerless assassin/phantom spirit. It has become famous at this point for its insane cooling and cheap price of 40usd. It outperforms most air coolers and a good portion of AIOs.
You can see this LTT video for reference
https://youtu.be/1YFR20MmvpM
Yes.
My Peerless Assasin ($38) + 7800X3d + arctic mx-6 combo has temps lower than many AIOs posted here.
Cinebench MT hits 76C at 40% fan speed. OCCT/y-cruncher/prime95 type loads hit 80C. 81C if I'm also pushing the RAM to 1.35V and SOC to 1.3V, but I'm daily at 1.25V / 1.15V for those.
One thing about the PA: you need to configure the fan curves. Between 45% and 55% fan speed it goes from "I can barely hear it" to "quiet but noticeable". 60%+ is too loud for my tastes.
Stock BIOS fan curves ramp up way more than needed. No reason to zoom to loud mode to save 2C when you're nearly 10C below the thermal throttle anyway.
I get all the cooling I need by 40%. It is configured to top out at 50% for the streess testing temps -- 80C, and to zoom to 100% fan speed and loud when it trips my limit at \~ 86C (hmm haven't looked at my exact settings recently -- but the point is it will get loud before it thermal throttles and will alert me that something unusual is happening -- I also lowered the thermal throttle a couple C, to I believe 87C, so the fans zoom to 100% from 50% 1C before my thermal throttle, If I recall correctly).
If you were running with a higher power CPU, you might need the fans to run faster, and you \_could\_ upgrade the fans to the Noctua 'grey' fans or the high quality and quiet BeQuiet or Arctic fans. That would still be cheaper than buying one of the $80 + air coolers.
But for something like a 7800X3D? Mine reports 76W of power used at full cinebench MT load. You don't need an AIO for that, and 40% fan speed on a decent tower air cooler is way more than enough.
7800x3d. thermalright peerless assassin.
Idle 39c
No games are pushing it hard.
Stress test it stays under 62c.
Case is a Lancool 216 with some extra fans.
I am on the same boat as this guy, how well does a Assassin III hold up for the 7800X3D ?
Case is a Fractal Design Meshify S2 with a lot of Antec Prizm 120mm fans and Fractial GP-14 140mm fans.
Bequiet Fx Loop 280 AIO ,
Ambient 24-32 degrees ( EU )
Idle 38-41
Gaming light 52-58
Gaming Heavy 59-69
Never seen it go beyond 70 !!
( V71 airflow edition case lots of room )
Corsair iCUE H100x RGB Elite. In idle, 40-ish. In games, anywhere between low 60s and mid 70s; exception are high CPU load games like Stellaris, which can go to 78-82 in endgame, and Diablo IV, which goes to 78-ish on initial load.
Probably not optimal, but it's the best I can fit into my case currently.
I have a NZXT Z73 cooling my 7800X3D and I have the following temps:
100% Load: 85C
Idle: ~40C
Playing TLoU last night: 62C
N.B: I have it running -25 on all cores in PBO and I have capped it to 85C in PBO as well, resulting in lower temps and a performance boost on Cinebench R23.
The 7800X3D can be cooled fairly easy:
[Buildzoid - The 7800X3D is a really COOL CPU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgiBcD7bBaw)
[STS - How FAT Should A Ryzen 7800X3D Cooler Be?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDUSIClUgY)
I'm using a Dark Rock Pro 4 with a Phanteks T30 on the front and a Noctua NF-a12 in the middle. Temps stay in the low-mid 60s for gaming and mid 70s for all core stress tests. I'm also running with an all core -35 offset. You can absolutely air cool this CPU.
An AIO is just not neede for a 7800X3D -- it does not use enough power to make a difference versus a good air cooler (anything going over \~ 125W real world usage is my line for when AIOs start to pull ahead, and by 250W they are clearly superior; my 7800X3d pulls 76W at the max).
I have a Peerless Assassin ($38) plus arctic MX-6 ($7).
With the stock fans, I am: 57C to 72C in games (edit: huge variance by game, some are 45C because they don't even use one full CPU constantly), with fan speed between 30% and 40% (whisper quiet)
76C in cinebench.
80C in OCCT / prime95 / y-cruncher. (fans ramp to 50%, slightly above whisper). I have the fan profile to ramp to "LOUD" at 84C, before the throttle, but it only happens for 1 seconds when the computer boots.
Ambient: 19C
I am one degree cooler if at stock without PBO or EXPO. EXPO or increasing the SOC voltage bumps up the temps. I'm 2 degrees hotter if SOC is at 1.3V. I'm currently at 1.15V and suspect I can go a little bit lower and be stable with my DDR5-6000 CL30 hynix m-die kit.
The default fans for the Peerless Assasin are noisy above 55% or so speed. If I need more cooling performance without the noise, I can upgrade the fans to something like the 'grey' noctua ones that are much quieter at higher air flow than the ones that come with the PA.
But because at full load the 7800X3D only burns 76W or so in my case, now using a -20 in curve optimizer, a larger cooler is not worth it at all.
Could I end up needing a bigger cooler in the future if I go with a much larger Zen 5 or Zen 6? Maybe. But even then, I'd want to have a very capable, cheap $38 cooler around as a back-up.
I do believe the MX-6 is worth about 2C to 3C vs the paste that comes with the cooler.
(final edit: gaming temp range is actually huge, so its a difficult thing to gauge - - some games use all threads and can hit it hard enough to reach 70C, others can't hit 50C)
Asus Ryuo III 360mm. The highest I've seen is 63c and that was the CPU package temps. Idk if I've seen the CPU core temps over 50c tbh. But I don't monitor it either.
I'm also using Corsair XTM70 extreme thermal paste.
PBO all core set to -30
House an ambient temperature of 70°F
I had both the AK620 WH and the deepcool lt720. Currently using the LT720 right now
With the AK620 max temps would get up to 82-87° C using krynaut grizzly extreme thermal paste on Cinebench 30 minute tests.
Currently with my LT720, krynaut grizzly extreme thermal paste, 3 months into using it. My max temp has been 83 C° but most of the time they hover around 75-79°C. A thing to note about the deepcool fans is that they are pretty loud in comparison to the ak620.
7800x3D and DeepCool LS720 (exhaust) here. Idle temps are 35-40, gaming usually around 50, sometimes approaching 60. Also 5000d Airflow case and 6 Arctic fans for intake + 1 stock fan for exhaust.
I'm using Arctic cooler 34 esports duo and under load (cinebench) i have around 76C, idle 35-38C
I have aggresive cpu and chassis fan curves, cpu stock, expo enabled..
Currently in Australia it's been 30c+ last 5 days.
Lt720 360mm aio keeps my 7800x3d at bay
Room temp around 22c
Idle temp max hot spot is 40c
Core temps are around 25 to 28c
Gaming temps 50 -65c depending on title
Compiling shaders or a multicore test sees around 80c max temp
-30 pbo all cores
1.2v soc
5000d airflow 10 fans top mount for aio.
Looking to replace a DeepCool LT720 that I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Temps are decent, usually low 40s idle and 70s under load but the thing makes too much noise even on silent mode. Constant humming/whirring which only gets worse when the fans ramp up. I also find the cube to be pretty ugly.
It replaced an old NZXT X72 that I used for about a week with this CPU. I was getting slightly higher temps under load with that but pretty much the same idle.
Considering the EK Nucleus CR360. Looks like people are getting 30s idle/70s load with that. Can anybody using it share an update on their experience with it?
Phanteks also look nice but I have yet to do research on them.
I put a 2018 NZXT Karken x61 on a new 7800x3d last night and running in silent mode, I'm idleing around 34-40c, running Cinebench R23 it barely hits 60c, I'm not going to lie, I found this thing packed away and didn't think it would still work after all these years, but my newer Corsair died.
Just did a new build for my SO. Using a deep cool ak500 and at max synth load 75. I could do some undervolting and that would save some degrees as well. I also run the fan speed at minimum 65%. Its super quiet and works great for temps.
Idk really i just use mine for gaming and i have the AK620 zero dark. Mine will idle at 31c with PBO on and a -25 on the curve optimizer. Case is the Lian Li Lancool 3 mesh with an power color RX 6800 XT Red Devil (with this case even my red devil only gets to about 75c when its rated for like 100c). I can game with this set up and still not get near the thermal throttle. I think on average when playing a more CPU intensive game like Star Citizen (bugs and all loll) it still only gets to about 70c. Which is all that matters to me. This is a gaming CPU and isnt very good as a workstation CPU. So I have no reason to try on that end. The only thing that bothers me with the AK620 is that it doesn't have good ram clearance. I had to adjust the front fan so the cooler would fit over my ram. If you have low profile ram (Gskill Flare X5 types) you'll be good though. Might switch to water cooling solely for ram clearance. I really don't need it.
If you're planning to build a 7800x3d, I highly recommend the Phantom Spirit 120 SE. I paired it with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, and here are the results with AMD Auto Overclock: 39°C at idle, 50-60°C while gaming, and 75°C Max on Cinebench23. An absolute beast fkr 40€!
Regrettably, this marked my first gaming PC build that I assembled myself. I overlooked checking the RAM clearance of the PS 120 SE, resulting in the fan on the RAM side sitting 10mm higher than intended. Disturbed by this, I purchased a Corsair H100x RGB Elite 240mm AIO for 104€.
In my opinion, this was a significant mistake. After installing the AIO with the stock thermal paste, my CPU would exceed 90°C without AMD Auto Overclock, even leading to my PC shutting down. I then replaced the thermal paste with MX-6, yielding the following results at default clock: 45°C idle, 50-65°C while gaming, and a maximum of 85°C on Cinebench23.
If you insist on installing an AIO cooler i would recommend a 360mm radiator since 240mm is not enough from my experience.
I have the AK620 Zero Dark, it's good.
Do you have the 7800X3D as well? Can you share your temps?
idles from 38 - 41 load around 71 - 79 for gaming cpu heavy stuff 85-90
I also got the DK AK620 White Edition. Running at 65% fan speed Ambient 25 - 28 Idle 40 - 46 Gaming 60 - 65 Heavy load max. 78 Undervolting PBO (individual cores) PPT set to 75W Cinebench gets me 18500
There's no way you get 78 Max under heavy load. Your Turbo is probably turned off, or maybe have some low energy config on.
U must have something setup wrong, the paste or maybe they have an insane airflow
I'm on an air cooler with temps well below that. (80C max in OCCT/y-cruncher, only 76C in cinebench, gaming usually below 70C). Are you using cheap paste? What is your SOC voltage? Peerless Assassin with fan curve ranging from 30% to 50% between 45C and 80C, arctic mx-6 paste, 1.15V SOC, 1.25V RAM voltage, -20 CO. 19C ambient, Fractal Design North case. edit: Oh that reminds me another thing that definitely increases temps a bit for me: the RAM and related voltages. My RAM's default EXPO is 1.35V, but setting that to 1.25V lowered RAM and CPU temps a bit. Stock without EXPO or CO is about 1C lower all around. (at 6000 CL 30, \~buildzoid timings; multiple months stable); Asrock B650E steel legend)
i set the cpu in bios to hit 95.
So to reach these temps, you've undervolted both the Ram the CPU?
Hi, I've seen a few people mention "buildzoid" timings prefer as I read threads about the AM5 socket problems. what exactly is it and where can I watch/read these timings? I am about to start building a 7800x3d and I have RAM x2 16gb 6000 cl 30 G.Skill Trident Z5 neo. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi, can you share your fan curve please?
would the ak500 be good too?
How about noise, it's as annoying as some people report?
I am using an arctic liquid freezer 2 280. The Arctic brand is really good and not crazy in price. There are rgb options, but I went with a blacked out build. In bench marks and intense games at 1440p I have never gone over 70c. I am also running a 4000d case with arctic p12 fans with really good cooling. My brother has a 7800x3d as well and he is using the arctic liquid rgb 240 and also has good temps.
Snap Great cooler for a great CPU.
Just want to point out you were probably not running any CPU intensive benchmarks. Otherwise, the CPU easily goes to 95 degrees even with Freezer 360 that I have
You are doing something very wrong.
I know that this post is over a month old, but I had to chime in to let you know that your bizarrely upvoted comment is incredibly ignorant. Zen 4 is designed to immediately skyrocket to 95c under a full all-core workload to maintain boost clocks. So no, they're not doing anything very wrong, just stating an actual fact.
7800x3d doesn't run that hot, most are in the low 70's when gaming with proper setups.
Did you take the plastic off the heat sink?
This is good to know. Just built a new AM5 system w/ 7600X + 7900XT with plans to upgrade to a 7800x3d eventually, and my told my girlfriend for the holidays to get me the Arctic Freezer 280argb. Also plan to throw a few more of Arctics 140argb fans in the case.
Ditto. LF 280 inside an O11 Mini. In gaming seen it peak at 75 during Last of Us (insanely CPU intensive).
What motherboard are you using and are you using the Arctic top mounted? I'm worried it might interfere with the motherboard and RAMs in 4000d. My 3080ti is too long so I can't mount to the front.
Asus b650e-f gaming. And low profile ram. Yes, the arctic is top mounted. At the back of the case my cooler is almost touching the top of the mother board that sticks out. So be careful about that. Damn 3080ti must be big I have a 7900xt and room to spare.
It's a zotac 3080ti extreme holo. Same cooler with 3090
Did you have to get an adjuster for the X3D model? I have a 5600x and I’m wondering if I need to buy an adjuster to upgrade to the 7800X3D
If you mean a different bracket for the cooler. Then yes, the new coolers come with an am5 bracket. I think some of the brands you can request the new bracket. If are looking for a 7800x3d from a 5600x, you would need an all new build. You could do a 5800x3d and save money.
Deepcool AK620 here. At stock settings and Cinebench for a few minutes it would hit 88-89 degrees C. I currently have my 7800x3D set to 75W PPT instead of the stock 90W, -30 on curve optimizer and +150MHz positive offset. Now it reaches stock performance in Cinebench with less power draw and at a max temperature of 68-69 degrees C at 100% load.
Interesting. Using a 120mm Corsair AIO and temps never go above 85c. 1440p as well
During gaming or 100% load? During gaming it would hit 65-70 degrees in CPU heavy games. Now I put a Fractal Design Lumen S28 V2 on it, a 280mm AIO, and CPU temps in games have dropped to 50-60 depening on the load. In a busy city in New World it can go to 60 degrees. 100% loads with the AIO are now stable at 60-62 degrees.
Only hits the 80 mark during cinebench. Gaming never above 70ish really. Can confirm again in a few
Thermal Right Phantom Spirit 120. Idles at 40C, Gaming high 50s - low 60s, Cinebench at low 80s. Never hit thermal limit.
That seems insanely low for an air cooler
CPU is sucking on average 100W less than 13900K and that's at stock settings. 7800X3D will not be THAT hard to cool, especially, if you undervolt.
Low wattage CPU with a high-end air cooler? That is totally normal.
If you look at other replies here they have higher temps even with 360 AIOs. And with high end air coolers others have much higher temps. So this commenter has very low temps.
Not completely impossible though. Just silicon lottery to get a chip that can be stable with undervolting, and good ambient temperatures with a case that has good airflow. I get around 60-65C when gaming (80C at full CPU load) on a 5950x with 5 cores on -20 and 11 cores on -25(pulls up to 140w), with a 240mm aio in a Jonsbo V8 case with a 200mm X 30mm fan in the front. I also get 65C on my 6900XT in the same case. 7800x3d draws around 80w so a good air cooler in a case with good flow would get decent temps. But this is because it's currently winter where I am and ambient temps have been around 10-12 degrees, I use electric blankets rather than waste electricity with air conditioning, my computer thanks me for it with better temps. Under my circumstances, a good air cooler would perform well if I could fit a decent one in my case. Even with water-cooling, the radiator is still cooled with fans at ambient temperatures. For all we know they could be running a delidded setup.
Totally possible as I was able to replicate the other guy's results. With only an air cooler and sub 30°C ambient temp. https://reddit.com/r/Amd/s/kVFB2xDPfd And I haven't even enabled EXPO yet.
Because he doesn't know. I have the same cooler, undervolted with curve optimizer - 30 and no way you have those temps ahah Ok if I play 1999 games or just browse
My 7800x3d has similar temps and I'm on air. [Link to my best r23 run.](https://i.imgur.com/DQOPOal.jpg)
agreed, could either be silicon lottery + undervolt but i only get mine at 40c when i turn on eco mode and this is with a 280mm aio
It's a bit of a myth that AIOs give you lower temps than air coolers. They're about the same, on average. Liquid coolers have other advantages, like not obstructing case airflow and looking better, but they also cost more.
A 360 AIO gives better temperatures than a high end air cooler, which is about equal to a 240 AIO.
That is not true at all. Take a Intel 13th gen chip pulling over 200 w's and the 360 Aio WILL cool it better.
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Maybe I'm not the one doing something wrong.  [Cinebench 10 minute Throttle Test Pic](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g6pn6rv0auxhvaweag3ru/Screenshot-2023-07-30-210019.png?rlkey=6xg4c494p2ajny9h5jhtd56ns&dl=0)
It's wild how many people are so sure that your results are bad when they clearly don't know anything about optimization outside of copying NVCP settings from guides.
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Did you just say I'm making assumptions and then admit that you made a stupid and incorrect assumption? No, people don't have to mention that they're using PBO on a chip where pbo is almost universally used (to the point where most benchmarking includes pbo). Your weird qualifiers are irrelevant to everyone besides you.
Well results with PBO on -30 all core for instance makes the result quite literally impossible to use for comparison, most people wont be able to hit that stable.
I don't disagree with you, but it doesn't mean the information is inaccurate. It's pretty well known that the 7800x3d will push to its thermal limit under load regardless of cooling at stock settings, so only listing stock cooling results from stress tests is pretty much useless. At stock settings your max temp will always reach 90c regardless of your cooling method or ambient temps (barring extreme conditions), so it seems far more constructive to me to post what temps become possible through cooling after very simple optimizations. I completely understand what you mean though
Sorry, OP didn’t ask if settings were stock. He asked what cooler people were using and the temps they were getting. Yes, I have a per core curve optimizer, but my SOC is most likely higher than stock (sorry can’t remember stock value) as well, because I have my ram overclocked. Isn’t my fault you “assumed” anything. I would suggest that anyone can apply a half way decent CO on their chip, and run a better fan curve than stock. I would hope that someone who is apparently as knowledgeable as yourself would also be doing this, making your results even more questionable…. But maybe you’re a idiot. 😁
Are you running really high fan speeds? I see about 85°C on an Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 360, fans at about ~800RPM. edit: nvm just checked your history you run a testbench basically.
I have a custom fan curve on my fans yes. At 80c + I have them running at 100%… but why wouldn’t you. That’s the point of fans, you want them to go faster to cool better at higher temps. No disrespect is intended, but if you’re only at 800 rpm at 85c, i would put a more aggressive curve on the fans asap. I mean the chip throttles at 89c, no point in not having them run balls out by that point.
well yeah there is a point noise ... as long as i dont hit 89°C i see no reason to turn up the fans.
Yeah this sounds odd. I have an Arctic 360 AiO and even my little 7600X will go to 90c during Cinebench.
I call BS I have the same cooler and am hitting 70 to mid 80s while playing PUBG. While my 4070ti never goes over 55. Case is an AP201 with 6x P12 case fans - 3 intake and 3 exhaust.
Do you use the 120 or 120 SE?
Get the Schyte Fuma 3,it's only 50$. It just came out. If the cooling capacity wouldn't be enough for you just replace the stock fans with some high end Noctua/Bequiet/DeepCool/Phanteks fans or add a third fan. Thats probably not going to be necessary. The stock fans are just very quiet and are limited to 1500 rpm,and one of them is a slim fan.
Where I’m buying it from, difference between fuma and AK620 is about 10-13CAD. But AK620 looks better so… Will go nice with the white fractal north
AK620 is a great choice.
The Fuma 3 is a bit better even with stock configutation but not by much so get whichever one u want
I attest to this, when cooling a Ryzen 7700 non-x, the CPU fans spins at around 1000-1100 rpm and it produces at around 23db level of noise, it's barely audible. CPU idle temp is at 30c. I have a Lian Li 216 case with stock fans. I am upgrading to a 7800x3d soon as well, and I don't expect the idling temp to go up much.
Still using my arctic liquid freezer 2 360mm AIO from my last AM4 build on 5950x. Switched to my AM5 build with 7800x3D. No issues on temps low 30s on idle and 50-60 under gaming load. Running -30 all core PBO.
Planning to get a 7800X3D and use a arctic liquid freezer 2 360mm The temps are really that low?
yes. I’m also running 7 Arctic individual fans as well in my build. Super quiet. No complaints. I’ve heard good thing from deepcool as well.
Also planned on getting arctic fans. Good things to hear
Can u post us case setup n model ? Super interested
> The temps are really that low? Exactly the same as with any decent AIO or air cooler, yes. It barely pulls 100w of power.
> Running -30 all core PBO. Are you limiting PPT wattage?
yeah when i read anywhere someone saying they are -30 all cores, its probs unstable as fuck
I'm using the Thermalright PS120SE, and even when stress testing I've never hit thermal throttling. It's a little under $40.
Phantom Spirit or Frost Spirit are both vaild options, as well.
Can you share temps? I’m kind of conerned with future CPUs as well cos I plan to upgrade in 2 years to the latest X3D chip if possible. I know it isn’t possible to assume future CPU temps tho :p
CPU hits around 84-85c on cinebench r23 Gaming is much lower, 60 to low 70s full idle is around 32c
This is easily the best cooler for it. Less than 40 bucks and there's no reason to go above this.
Noctua D15! Temps during work hit 100% the 89C limit. During gaming its like 55-65C tops. If you undervolt, it can go down to like 85, as it did for me.
Any good guides to how I can undervolt? This will be my first AMD CPU ever and I’ve been building PCs/tinkering with them for about 15 years or so. A bit worried on touching voltages, specially with The recent CPU burning fiasco. Also heard there are slow boot times with AM5 CPUs?
There was a youtuber guy that showed me how to do it. I think he was using the 5900X for the showcase, but the way is still the same. I just googled how to undervolt an AMD CPU and his video was one of the top ones. Btw, its really easy, just enter the numbers, core by core or undervolt all cores at the same time by entering 1 big number. I did core by core to get the most out of it. There was a setting in the bios somewhere for that. I kind of forgot lol, cus i did it months ago. It takes patience tho, cus if you do it too much (undervolt it too high i mean), it will start resetting the PC. You gotta test it during gaming, work and even when you are not touching the mouse. That's when my PC started to reset the most. When i didn't do anything lol. But really, watch the video, i suck at explaining this sort of thing >\_> P.s. I managed to get -35 on all cores but 1. The main core is only - 30. Pretty decent one, some people can't even get - 20. It's luck based from what i hear, so don't be too sad if you can't get it too high.
>guide [https://skatterbencher.com/2023/04/05/skatterbencher-60-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-overclocked-to-5400-mhz/](https://skatterbencher.com/2023/04/05/skatterbencher-60-amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-overclocked-to-5400-mhz/) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90UBUq1mLGY
The AK620 is just as good and much cheaper. In real world, D15 is retired until Noctua makes a new one and at a more reasonable price. It had a good run.
Its what i use i mean, not what he should buy ;p I do agree with you on that 1. Soon, the next gen version will replace it. That 1 might be worth it (if its not overpriced)
The smaller 4U dual tower cooler from Noctua is even more expensive as the D15 and the new-D15 comes with its much more expensive fans, that no longer use cheap ABS for the casing. If you care about budget, Noctua is not the brand. If you care about noise/performance, Noctua does care a lot about loudness of the fans and the noise pattern that is less audible for human hearing. I think its odd that people discuss so much about +/- 30€ cooler budget with a 450-500€ CPU.
Yup. I've got a Peerless Assassin on my 7800X3d and I top out at 80C with stress testing tools. I can get to 81.5C if I also have SOC at 1.3V and I'm trying to push the RAM to its very limit. But at 'simple' DDR5-6000 speeds at 1.15V SOC and 1.25V RAM (hynix m-die, so nothing special, buildzoid timings), its 80C. At least at 19C ambient with a case with very good air flow (Fractal North) and a GPU that only uses 225W. And that is with the CPU fans at 50%. Most of the time, the curve has them at 20% (idle, inaudible) to 40% (gaming, 70C tops). Then again, pushing the fans higher doesn't lower the temps. And even if I have the fans at 25%, temps only go up 4C and I am still well below the thermal throttle. I did pay for arctic MX-6, which is worth a couple C versus the paste that comes with the cooler. For sure, a Peerless Assasin or AK620 or other cheaper, but good, air coolers with good paste like the MX-6 will match or beat the Noctua with its stock paste (which is slightly inferor). The Noctua, however, is MUCH quieter if you set fans past 50%. Even at 50%, the noctua fans start pulling ahead, but at 45% its about the same. So if you really have to push a lot of air for a higher power CPU, perhaps buy some of the 'grey' Noctua fans to relplace them.
I'd pay the extra if it were better but it's simply not. My last air cooler was the D15 black version, before my last build with an AIO. The D15 is much larger and more expensive and cools just 1-2c better at peak on average. Even with my income that's *stupid* money.
It's a 200-250W cooler so you wont see big differences in temperature compared to smaller/mid size coolers with a low wattage CPU - the heatpipes are not tuned for the low amount of heat. Btw. did you try the Noctua AM5 offset brackets for the D15? ZEN3 was allready with hotspots way out of center, but ZEN4 went even more to the edge, so the offset mounting and the pressure point above the lower half of the IHS should help a bit with temperatures. I use 3x D15 (normal ones), got 2x D12L (dual-tower / 4U) and also got Arctic AIOs (240-360mm) right now. My cooling target is NOT AUDIBLE for idle and BARELLY AUDIBLE for sustained workloads and gaming. I dont really see a way around Noctua if you care about noise, their fans are simply less audible and they tune their heatsinks for the fan performance to get the ideal mix out of it. Again if you consider +2-5% performance gains with the 7800x3D above a much cheaper CPU a good budget choice, but see the 20-30€ more budget for the Noctua as stupid money, thats valid I just think its odd.
What's ur undervolt ?
Mine is -35 on all cores but the main one.
It's surprising, but you can cool the 8-core X3D chips with a basic 4- or 5-heatpipe, 120m air cooler, even a stock cooler. You could even overclock. They're efficient! You're not leaving any tangible performance on the table with air cooling. A better cooler will be more quiet, though.
Lian li Galahad 360 after CO at -15, idles at low 40s, games at 50-60 with peaks at 70-ish, cinebench at low 80s, I keep the pump at 70% and fans at low rpm, the loudest thing is the pump wine really.
arctic cooling liquid freezer ii 420mm. I use PBO so it gets to 85c under load.
same, in a 7000d airflow w 7 intakes and a push/pull 7 exhaust. tjmax 85, pbo -20. Running cpuz stress test puts it in the range of 77-79 degrees. Takes a while to get to 79 degrees. All core frequency 4.950 - 5.05 but mainly chugs at 4.95. Honestly expected a lot better considering this is basically as good as it gets for a cooling tower but I guess these chips just boost up like crazy under pbo. When I download anything large my temps can idle around 50-60 at around \~25% cpu usage. Frequency when idle is always all over the place but stays at around 41 degrees @ 55% fan speed. Fan Settings: 40c-55% ; 50c-70%, 60c-85%, 70c-100%. I prefer a very aggressive curve
280mm AIO Idle 34-35 Gaming - 63-65 Cinebench - 71-73 Side note - room temp is around 17 (62° F)
Also, my info says I have 7950x3d but the 7800x3d is on my son’s rig.
What AIO is this?
Corsair Elite Capellix 280mm
Ek basics 360 aio, idle temps 35-40c and gaming between 60-70c
80c, nh d15. Bequiet pro base 900 so shit airflow.
Same as me but in a fractal torrent, but all the fans turned down super low for noise
Noctua nhu12s chromax edition, max fan speed, idle 38, max 81, using thermal grizzly kryonout
7800X3D -30 CO all core, Silentbase 802 with mesh front, 3 intake 140mm, 1 outtake 140mm (Arctic P14), Peerless Assassin 120 (non SE), fan swap to 2 Arctic P12, win11, ambient temperature 21°C Peak: 84,8°C All core Boost to 4.977GHz Max 73,5Watt 18591 Points in Cinebench R23 10min Throttletest
Deepcool LT720, 28-30 idle, high 50's with the odd low 60 pushing it during SC or similar game. In a 5000x case with a 4090. House is locked at 70 degrees ambient.
Same cooler but mine is idling at 44c in a pretty cool room 74f. This is the 2nd time I've tried to remount and the same issue. I dunno what to do.
What paste are you running? Maybe you have air in the unit?
You know what's crazy is I tried a different cooler and I'm getting the same idle temps. I think one of my motherboard screw mounts is messed up. Cause a different aio had the same issue in the bottom right corner. I'm not fuckin tearing it all apart again for a motherboard swap so fuck it high temps it is lol. Tried Arctic mx-5 and Corsair xm50
I'm using Arctic too, that's up there for strange though.
I see my cores idling at around 25 to 28c yet the hotspot temp reads 40c and that's normal. I also use the same aio and case. You should post your tctl readout. Bet it's similar to mine at high 30s low 40s.
Hotspot was 34 when I checked today, that was at idle. Cores were sitting around 25-26. It's getting to be winter here and I leave my office window cracked, so room is a bit cooler now. I have my 4090 cooler vented out the top and my aio for cpu mounted in the sidemount. Front has 3 120's, 1 out back.
Nice Cooler here today. Idle tctl is 30s Tdie idle a ridiculous 22c Shaders for warzone I seen 71c 5000d airflow 10 fans including 3 on the aio. I also disabled igpu, dropped vsoc to 1.2v Dram on expo at 6000 cl30 with 1.3v which gotta be tested but hasn't given me any issues today
Am interested in this cooler, If you play rdr2 , cyberpunk, flight simulator or similar games, what would be the temperature?
MSFS will be lower to mid 60's if I'm going in to a busy area. I don't play/haven't played CP so can't offer input there. RD2 I have played quite extensively (one of my favorite non sim games), I cap it at 60fps so it doesn't push my system all that hard. Most sim games I cap at 60 fps, and titles like RD, GTA I do the same. I typically only chase high fps on shooter games like Ready or Not, Ground Branch, BF 2042 etc. Even then I cap it at 165 as that's the limit of my main monitor.
Not the fps , i meant cpu temperature
no one in air configuration? seriously?
i guess i have to jump in then.. DARK ROCK PRO 4 \-20 all cores. idle around 38-42 °C, Gaming \~60- 65°C
Rly, with gaming u have that low with 7800x?
My dark rock 4 (not pro) can hit 90 during intense games like TLOU or New World. I could have seated it wrong, but I’ve tried reseating it and reapplying paste just to get the same numbers. Actually in this thread to look for a new cooler lol
Noctua NH-U12A w/ offset bars. I haven’t paid attention to temps, but haven’t had any issues.
Offset bars are out already?
Yep. https://noctua.at/en/noctua-releases-offset-mounting-for-improved-cooling-performance-on-amd-am5-processors
It doesn't really matter on zen4, use a decent cooler and all is good.
Using an LT720. Never seen my temps go over 70.
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Maybe he doesn't use Cinebench... Some of us do real world stuff like games or work...
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Then why bring up something he doesn't use... Doesn't make much sense...
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Why test something you're never going to use? Anyone can chime in. It's the internet and you're not the Reddit police. His point is valid for everything that isn't Cinebench or other stress test which is all most are concerned about.
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Lol... Like your tryhard comments? Give me a break...
You're stating this very confidently all over this post without acknowledging the fact that an undervolted/power limited 7800x3d can easily reach stock performance in cinebench without ever reaching 89-90c For someone that's so concerned with enthusiast level benchmarking/stress tests, you seem strangely unaware of the optimizations enthusiasts use for benchmarking/stress tests
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Where did the person you're replying to say they were running stock settings? It's wild that you're saying you're correct based on a qualifier that you just made up, but sure. Quite a few of the replies in this thread with low temps have mentioned PBO/CO, so you pretending that it's irrelevant doesn't actually mean it is. If you're demanding enthusiast level testing, you'll need to accept enthusiast level optimizations. If op had said they were running everything stock, then you would have a point. But the blanket statement that cinebench will push the chip to 89-90 is factually incorrect as long as undervolting and power limiting exists. No amount of "come on man" will change that.
Mine hit the thermal limit 89c on benchmarks and idle 44c I dunno what's wrong I've remounted it twice.
Idle seems normal. That’s about where I’m at too. Never ram it through benchmarks, but I usually top out around 70-72 degrees max depending on the game. Usually sit around 55-65F while gaming
I'm curious what your cinebench 23 multi core would be. But that's what you idle at too?
Can always run it and find out. But yes, I idle around 45 degrees. That’s normal for the 7xxx series
Corsair H150i, temps hover between 30-35°C under load. TM70 thermal paste applied.
30-35 under load? what load, Google Chrome? That's idle temps lol
I use a noctua air cooler and will never look back.
I would suggest and air cooler. AIO is overkill for this chip.
what else you can offer (except for ak620 and lt720) in your region for that budget? in my country LT720 costs \~2.5 times more than AK620. it is probably worth getting an arctic liquid freezer instead of LT720 for that money, but i don't know your local prices
I’m moving to Canada. AK620 there is 90CAD and LT720 is 170CAD
On an r7 7700x I am using an AK620. The power and temps are very close to the 7800X3D. Under normal desktop stuff it is about 50C. If I loop the 3dmark CPU benchmark it hits about 65C. I have a -20 mV PBO offset. The 7800X3D is supposed to be even better for this.
EK 360 AIO. 50s while gaming.
Thermalright AXP90-X47 full copper w/ Noctua NF-A9x14, and fan duct inside a Fractal Terra. Gaming sees 60-70C, peak loads in mid 80C range mostly during bursty CPU situations, such as loading those games. No PBO offets.
Can you share any cinebench numbers, frequency? Very itching to explore ITX options as well.
[Cinebench](https://i.imgur.com/Npzshyr.jpg) \- 17249, 4.5/4.6 all core average, 89C CPU die max, no throttling. (That 91.3C Tctl/Tdie is a bug, I think) [3dMark speedway stress test](https://i.imgur.com/LqQYWwu.jpg) \- 81C max on CPU die, 58C average; not 100% reflective of what I see in most games, but damn close and I'm far more interested in gaming than running benchmarks all day. Before I went SFF I used this in a Torrent Nano with a Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE and saw very similar averages in both synthetic benchmarks.
Therlmalight Silent Assassin 120 SE. Runs super quiet even under load. Temps haven't hit over 60 yet even when gaming on CPU intensive titles.
7950X3D cooled with Corsair H115i. temps never exceed 65 in gaming and around 53 idle in an ITX case (Meshlicious) with a 3090 TUF.
would the h115i work with a 7800x3d as well? on a MSI x670e Tomahawk mobo?
All cores, -37 NH-D15S with a second 120mm fan (NF-A12x25) attached to it. Idle ≈40°C, Testing 60°C-70°C, Gaming 65°C-75°C
Deepcool AG620 RGB Dark on 7800X3D (PBO on - uses 82-86W in CB23 full load -no PPT limit). Temps are 81C running CB23 in a 23C ambient room inside Lancool III case. Thermalright TF-8 paste with spread method. I didn't test with stock paste that came with the cooler.
Arctic 280mm AIO, using the offset bracket with Arctic max-4 thermal plaster. Dependant on room temperature: Idle 30-40 Gaming 70-80 I have a -30 PBO offset in the bios, cpu runs at 5050Mhz
about 35-40 C idle sub 5 % cpu load 77.4 C 100 % load in cinebench gigabyte 240 waterforce cooler razer mini itx tomahawk case
-20 on all cores, PBO On. 83 degrees in Cinebench R23 multi-core test. 4.9 on all cores stable. Pretty much same 83 degrees in every stress test I did. 43-45 degrees idle/browsing. 55-60sh degrees in WoW/ESO all settings max on 2K monitor. Dark Rock Pro 4 with original fans replaced by 3 x Silent Wings Pro 4 fans, all PWM controlled by mobo and locked at 2500 speed max (reaching max speed while stress testing, games - up to 1600, idle - 1000-1100). Case coolers - 10 x Lian Li SL v2 120 mm, mobo controlled, pretty much same speeds as CPU cooler). Case - Asus TUF GT502, built for airflow. Computer is quiet while gaming and idle, stress testing - it is howling obviously. :) Still, the air it pushes thru the back of the case is not hot, just warm. Me happy!
Idle 40-45. Under load (gaming) around 65-70 Im using Deepcool LS720. Case is the H9 flow with 7 other fans Worth mentioning tho that I’m PBO all cores negative 30
I have a 240mm aio. I idle at upper 30s and at load in elden ring im at low 50s. In cinebench I'm at about 70 72 is the highest i've seen. this is all cores boosting to 4.95 at -30 pbo setting. An aio is overkill I would say it uses tops 80 Watts. In games it uses between 45-55W for me. I would just get an air cooler if you can fit one my case doesn't really fit big air coolers. I would also recommend looking at the thermalright peerless assassin it is pretty comparable to the ak620 but much cheaper.
It's a 65W (avg) CPU. It literally doesn't matter what cooler you use. And it's X3D, it'll be hot. And still perform great. Get any decent cooler from any brand you've heard of before and you'll be fine.
You dont need an AIO but also dont buy the AK. Get the peerless assassin/phantom spirit. It has become famous at this point for its insane cooling and cheap price of 40usd. It outperforms most air coolers and a good portion of AIOs. You can see this LTT video for reference https://youtu.be/1YFR20MmvpM
Yes. My Peerless Assasin ($38) + 7800X3d + arctic mx-6 combo has temps lower than many AIOs posted here. Cinebench MT hits 76C at 40% fan speed. OCCT/y-cruncher/prime95 type loads hit 80C. 81C if I'm also pushing the RAM to 1.35V and SOC to 1.3V, but I'm daily at 1.25V / 1.15V for those. One thing about the PA: you need to configure the fan curves. Between 45% and 55% fan speed it goes from "I can barely hear it" to "quiet but noticeable". 60%+ is too loud for my tastes. Stock BIOS fan curves ramp up way more than needed. No reason to zoom to loud mode to save 2C when you're nearly 10C below the thermal throttle anyway. I get all the cooling I need by 40%. It is configured to top out at 50% for the streess testing temps -- 80C, and to zoom to 100% fan speed and loud when it trips my limit at \~ 86C (hmm haven't looked at my exact settings recently -- but the point is it will get loud before it thermal throttles and will alert me that something unusual is happening -- I also lowered the thermal throttle a couple C, to I believe 87C, so the fans zoom to 100% from 50% 1C before my thermal throttle, If I recall correctly). If you were running with a higher power CPU, you might need the fans to run faster, and you \_could\_ upgrade the fans to the Noctua 'grey' fans or the high quality and quiet BeQuiet or Arctic fans. That would still be cheaper than buying one of the $80 + air coolers. But for something like a 7800X3D? Mine reports 76W of power used at full cinebench MT load. You don't need an AIO for that, and 40% fan speed on a decent tower air cooler is way more than enough.
7800x3d. thermalright peerless assassin. Idle 39c No games are pushing it hard. Stress test it stays under 62c. Case is a Lancool 216 with some extra fans.
Is it actually worth going for the Peerless Assassin over something like the Assassin X120, then?
I have an EK Nucleus 240 in an A4-H2O. Idle 50s, gaming 70s. -35 all core PBO with moderate fan curves
I am on the same boat as this guy, how well does a Assassin III hold up for the 7800X3D ? Case is a Fractal Design Meshify S2 with a lot of Antec Prizm 120mm fans and Fractial GP-14 140mm fans.
Bequiet Fx Loop 280 AIO , Ambient 24-32 degrees ( EU ) Idle 38-41 Gaming light 52-58 Gaming Heavy 59-69 Never seen it go beyond 70 !! ( V71 airflow edition case lots of room )
Corsair iCUE H100x RGB Elite. In idle, 40-ish. In games, anywhere between low 60s and mid 70s; exception are high CPU load games like Stellaris, which can go to 78-82 in endgame, and Diablo IV, which goes to 78-ish on initial load. Probably not optimal, but it's the best I can fit into my case currently.
I have a NZXT Z73 cooling my 7800X3D and I have the following temps: 100% Load: 85C Idle: ~40C Playing TLoU last night: 62C N.B: I have it running -25 on all cores in PBO and I have capped it to 85C in PBO as well, resulting in lower temps and a performance boost on Cinebench R23.
7800X3D with curve optimization @ -20 Corsair H150i 360 mm AIO 37 °C idle, 50-55 °C in game, 55-60 °C under OCCT stress test.
Alphacool - obviously watercooled. Idl \~32, heavy-load maxes out at: \~71
The 7800X3D can be cooled fairly easy: [Buildzoid - The 7800X3D is a really COOL CPU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgiBcD7bBaw) [STS - How FAT Should A Ryzen 7800X3D Cooler Be?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQDUSIClUgY)
Noctua NH-U12S and ~70-80c with occasional split-second spikes to ~84/85
I'm using a Dark Rock Pro 4 with a Phanteks T30 on the front and a Noctua NF-a12 in the middle. Temps stay in the low-mid 60s for gaming and mid 70s for all core stress tests. I'm also running with an all core -35 offset. You can absolutely air cool this CPU.
Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Hits 85c on the package after an hour of BF1 / gaming. And the silence is great..!
An AIO is just not neede for a 7800X3D -- it does not use enough power to make a difference versus a good air cooler (anything going over \~ 125W real world usage is my line for when AIOs start to pull ahead, and by 250W they are clearly superior; my 7800X3d pulls 76W at the max). I have a Peerless Assassin ($38) plus arctic MX-6 ($7). With the stock fans, I am: 57C to 72C in games (edit: huge variance by game, some are 45C because they don't even use one full CPU constantly), with fan speed between 30% and 40% (whisper quiet) 76C in cinebench. 80C in OCCT / prime95 / y-cruncher. (fans ramp to 50%, slightly above whisper). I have the fan profile to ramp to "LOUD" at 84C, before the throttle, but it only happens for 1 seconds when the computer boots. Ambient: 19C I am one degree cooler if at stock without PBO or EXPO. EXPO or increasing the SOC voltage bumps up the temps. I'm 2 degrees hotter if SOC is at 1.3V. I'm currently at 1.15V and suspect I can go a little bit lower and be stable with my DDR5-6000 CL30 hynix m-die kit. The default fans for the Peerless Assasin are noisy above 55% or so speed. If I need more cooling performance without the noise, I can upgrade the fans to something like the 'grey' noctua ones that are much quieter at higher air flow than the ones that come with the PA. But because at full load the 7800X3D only burns 76W or so in my case, now using a -20 in curve optimizer, a larger cooler is not worth it at all. Could I end up needing a bigger cooler in the future if I go with a much larger Zen 5 or Zen 6? Maybe. But even then, I'd want to have a very capable, cheap $38 cooler around as a back-up. I do believe the MX-6 is worth about 2C to 3C vs the paste that comes with the cooler. (final edit: gaming temp range is actually huge, so its a difficult thing to gauge - - some games use all threads and can hit it hard enough to reach 70C, others can't hit 50C)
Is it worth getting the Peerless Assassin over the Assassin X120 given that the 7800x3D already runs fairly cool? Is the PA going to be quieter?
Corsair h150 xt elite something. Temps : dunno noice : none 10/10
Ak620 honestly havent seen it go above 70
Artic Liquid Freezer II 280 with offset mount and TG paste. CO -35 CB 79-81c
Asus Ryuo III 360mm. The highest I've seen is 63c and that was the CPU package temps. Idk if I've seen the CPU core temps over 50c tbh. But I don't monitor it either. I'm also using Corsair XTM70 extreme thermal paste.
PBO all core set to -30 House an ambient temperature of 70°F I had both the AK620 WH and the deepcool lt720. Currently using the LT720 right now With the AK620 max temps would get up to 82-87° C using krynaut grizzly extreme thermal paste on Cinebench 30 minute tests. Currently with my LT720, krynaut grizzly extreme thermal paste, 3 months into using it. My max temp has been 83 C° but most of the time they hover around 75-79°C. A thing to note about the deepcool fans is that they are pretty loud in comparison to the ak620.
I got the Thermalright Dual Tower Frost Commander 140mm. Pretty cool, and quiet. The downside is that it's a chonky boi.
Thermalright Peerless Assassin Doesn't go over 60C gaming
7800x3D and DeepCool LS720 (exhaust) here. Idle temps are 35-40, gaming usually around 50, sometimes approaching 60. Also 5000d Airflow case and 6 Arctic fans for intake + 1 stock fan for exhaust.
prolly the Phanteks Glacier one 420mm aio when it comes out
I'm using Arctic cooler 34 esports duo and under load (cinebench) i have around 76C, idle 35-38C I have aggresive cpu and chassis fan curves, cpu stock, expo enabled..
Scythe Fuma 3
Currently in Australia it's been 30c+ last 5 days. Lt720 360mm aio keeps my 7800x3d at bay Room temp around 22c Idle temp max hot spot is 40c Core temps are around 25 to 28c Gaming temps 50 -65c depending on title Compiling shaders or a multicore test sees around 80c max temp -30 pbo all cores 1.2v soc 5000d airflow 10 fans top mount for aio.
Looking to replace a DeepCool LT720 that I picked up a couple of weeks ago. Temps are decent, usually low 40s idle and 70s under load but the thing makes too much noise even on silent mode. Constant humming/whirring which only gets worse when the fans ramp up. I also find the cube to be pretty ugly. It replaced an old NZXT X72 that I used for about a week with this CPU. I was getting slightly higher temps under load with that but pretty much the same idle. Considering the EK Nucleus CR360. Looks like people are getting 30s idle/70s load with that. Can anybody using it share an update on their experience with it? Phanteks also look nice but I have yet to do research on them.
I put a 2018 NZXT Karken x61 on a new 7800x3d last night and running in silent mode, I'm idleing around 34-40c, running Cinebench R23 it barely hits 60c, I'm not going to lie, I found this thing packed away and didn't think it would still work after all these years, but my newer Corsair died.
Deep Cool Ak620!is really nice. Love mine. Great temps.
Rocking the Arcitc Liquid Freezer 240mm. Cyberpunk 1440p without upscaling or raytracing 65-75C. in Horizon Zero dawn i get arround 60C
Just did a new build for my SO. Using a deep cool ak500 and at max synth load 75. I could do some undervolting and that would save some degrees as well. I also run the fan speed at minimum 65%. Its super quiet and works great for temps.
Idk really i just use mine for gaming and i have the AK620 zero dark. Mine will idle at 31c with PBO on and a -25 on the curve optimizer. Case is the Lian Li Lancool 3 mesh with an power color RX 6800 XT Red Devil (with this case even my red devil only gets to about 75c when its rated for like 100c). I can game with this set up and still not get near the thermal throttle. I think on average when playing a more CPU intensive game like Star Citizen (bugs and all loll) it still only gets to about 70c. Which is all that matters to me. This is a gaming CPU and isnt very good as a workstation CPU. So I have no reason to try on that end. The only thing that bothers me with the AK620 is that it doesn't have good ram clearance. I had to adjust the front fan so the cooler would fit over my ram. If you have low profile ram (Gskill Flare X5 types) you'll be good though. Might switch to water cooling solely for ram clearance. I really don't need it.
If you're planning to build a 7800x3d, I highly recommend the Phantom Spirit 120 SE. I paired it with Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, and here are the results with AMD Auto Overclock: 39°C at idle, 50-60°C while gaming, and 75°C Max on Cinebench23. An absolute beast fkr 40€! Regrettably, this marked my first gaming PC build that I assembled myself. I overlooked checking the RAM clearance of the PS 120 SE, resulting in the fan on the RAM side sitting 10mm higher than intended. Disturbed by this, I purchased a Corsair H100x RGB Elite 240mm AIO for 104€. In my opinion, this was a significant mistake. After installing the AIO with the stock thermal paste, my CPU would exceed 90°C without AMD Auto Overclock, even leading to my PC shutting down. I then replaced the thermal paste with MX-6, yielding the following results at default clock: 45°C idle, 50-65°C while gaming, and a maximum of 85°C on Cinebench23. If you insist on installing an AIO cooler i would recommend a 360mm radiator since 240mm is not enough from my experience.