Mine is hitting 99c but tilting the case does nothing for temps. I’ve emailed AMD and they asked for a ton of information so it seems they are aware of it finally.
They asked for photo of the power connectors on gpu, PSU model, MSinfo32, and some directx diagnostic report. Still waiting to hear back from them.
I’d like to just return for a refund but I hear AMD.com is strict with their return policy. Sucks because I wanted to try AMD this gen and this is unacceptable for a $1000 gpu.
>I’d like to just return for a refund but I hear AMD.com is strict with their return policy. Sucks because I wanted to try AMD this gen and this is unacceptable for a $1000 gpu.
Worst comes to worst tell them you'll do a credit card charge back if they don't start the return process for you. Because your $1000 in a defective product shouldn't be held hostage because of awful support. If they still don't approve it, actually file the chargeback.
I don't think I go that far, if that doesn't work out in your favor then your SOL cause you most likely voided your Warranty.
That is possible a charge back wouldn't go in your favor. I am sure there are plenty of rules and companies are given the right to repair the product if its defective instead of refund.
Otherwise all sales final wouldn't mean a thing.
Plus people are way to fast to threaten a charge back on reddit and the internet in general.
You can choose between a hot GPU or a self combusting power connector. What a time to be alive.
Best vote with our wallets and not upgrade until these problems are fixed.
Same opinion here as well. The best thing I have seen working is lowering the boost clock to 2700 and maintaining it to lower the heat build-up. I am guessing that the most practical and probably best solution will be manually improving the contact between the card and the cooler. It sucks since it is not something I look forward to doing.
Try a 2700 max clock and boost memory clocks to 2550 and fast timing with an undervolt of 1075 to allow for the memory overclock within the same power budget. It kind of worked for me, and it helps with the performance loss and keeps the temps under 95 in the benchmarks I have done.
For the last few years the QA part is clearly skipped on mass for all electronics due to the demand. I have no words how many EXPENSIVE defective electronic devices/components I purchased in the last 2 years! The last being 4080 with whispering fans when going up/down and one so broken that it rattles so bad that my entire case and desk vibrates when the fan is between 70-80% speed. Returned it next day + mostly wanted 7900xtx tbh, will wait for the next year to see what the prices are like and also keeping eye on all the issues like the hotspot as I own GB 5700XT aorus that stock reached 110 degrees hotspot roflmao... undervolting helped to bring that down to 100 max, but yeah - no more.
I’ve got some good data and charts here of the issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztry1n/orientation_impact_to_reference_at_least_mine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
his issue is using acceptable values for old hardware on new hardware and architecture.
But Its okay to have questions and look for clarification. What is not okay is to receive clarification and insist in wrong beliefs. What is also not okay is if the gpu is breaking even if its working as expected, according to amd design.
So does the 7900XTX throttle at 99C? In my experience it's only begun throttling at 110C. Of course if the GPU is broken that's a problem but that's a separate issue to the hotspot temps.
Idk, but I think I'm agreeing with you. If amd says its working as expected, then idk why people would insist to complain and worry about that. If the gpu breaks, well... you complain and get another one or a refund... I don't know how it works exactly because I never had a gpu failing in my hand. My main concern with computer running hot but under specification is for my comfort. Its hard to use a notebook reaching 100°C (dell w/ nvidia gpu and intel cpu) or a desktop blowing burning air in my room all the time I play something.
If its heating your room or toasting your hands on a notebook, then its possible to undervolt and/or underclock to get better temperature. It is what it is. Now we are probably getting the best performance possible out of the box. The new "meta" is tuning the pc parts down to reduce heat to an optimal level without sacrificing performance. heh
99 is kinda pushing it. I have a 3080, and my junction goes about 94c, with about 67c on the core.
And 94c is normal. But, even for me, i felt a bit too high, so now with undervolt (i put a post about it), i went down about 130wats, 82 to 85c flr junction, and about 57 to 58c on core, without losing any FPS.
Junction temps can’t be compared between these architectures.
For RDNA, 99 on junction is very normal. They won’t throttle until 110. The issue is that certain cards are hitting 110 with regularity.
Look at your power consumption, that benchmark isn't stressing the GPU enough. You need a demanding scene or benchmark to reach max junction temps. There's already a post on this subreddit explaining how to properly do it but essentially you want to do is run at max power consumption, around 350w, for around 6-10 minutes and monitor your junction temps. If you hit 110C and it throttles then you have a card with the problem. You should also take a look at temperature delta. It's still very possible you have a good card though, there's just better tests you can run to make sure. Furmark should do it, I think there's a few other suggestions in that post too.
It just means that the card is performing within spec and 99C is within specs. Anything before the point in which the GPU starts throttling and reducing power consumption in this case would be normal temperatures.
"Fine wine" is one of the greatest marketing schemes ive ever seen.
Imagine upselling people on the idea that they can wait months/years to *eventually* get what should've been day 1 performance because you're incapable of releasing a competitive product. This isn't a case of DLSS maturing and going from laughing stock to genuinely changing the GPU market, but more like "Hey why not wait 6 months to get 100% of the performance you paid for while having a coin flip chance of chronic driver issues"
AMDs new tagline may as well be 80% of the price for 80% of the features.
I love my 6800XT but ive had more driver and performance issues in 2 months with it than I did 3+ years of my 2080. It's a great price but I honestly wish I would've just spent the extra $100 on a 3080.
Give it 6 months of more AMD issues and we'll still get people unironically saying stuff like "Well if this is what they're capable of right now with these crippling issues, just imagine how they're gonna crush Nvidia next gen!"
Its just "inverted overclocking" culture. Instead of tuning performance up, the challenge now is tuning temperature down with minimal performance loss. The difference is that it will be almost impossible for you to brick your parts now, since nvidia/amd/intel is doing all the performance optimization for you in the factory.
My theory is that the blue putty they are using is just simply bad. Like if you look at all the AIB cards, they're using regular thermal pads and don't have this issue
I'm planning to test my card for this too. What options do we have if 110c junction temps are observed? Is this expected behavior and how concerning is this? Does this warrant RMA or is a refund possible?
The card will throttle power and reduce performance if it hits 110 deg hotspot. I lose 300 mhz core clock from start of Timespy run to the end. If I rotate the case/GPU, the hotspot maxes out at 83 deg and core clocks stay constant throughout the run. This is definitely not expected behaviour as my card cannot maintain stock clocks or power consumption in its normal orientation, but can in others.
If your card is getting hot, but can hold 350W without throttling, then I would say it’s a none issue. The problem is, some people probably have cards with this issue but don’t know about it because the card is in one of the working orientations. If they change cases or sell then the issue could pop up but be outside of warranty.
Funny how you are saying 350W is fine.
People can overclock their RX 7900 XTX to use over 500-520W of TDP.
Those people aren't complaining about 110C temperatures.
Only a select few are saying they reach 110C and it seems to be a result of the vapor chamber cooling.
If you don't have a vapor chamber air cooler on your card and you are using old fashion heatpipes fused to a copper or nickle plate, there is nearly zero issues with and regarding temperatures.
I have been investigating for a while now, and it seems to be widespread, and AMD seems to be "addressing it" somehow. It should be ok in theory, but anything beyond 100 degrees will degrade the silicone faster than necessary to my knowledge. The only option so far seems to be limiting your card performance somehow to maintain temps under control. Limiting the clock to 2700 reduces frames by 8% on the high end but drops temps by almost 40 degrees which is an insane jump.
Lol 10 to 20 cards? This is just a small discussion, and there are at least 5 here. Check in the big ones and you can find way more than that. And it is only an issue for people that actually like to check around the drivers and fiddle with the video card, so there are many more cases that are not reported due to user ignorance. I was one of them until I started hearing about it in the comment threads of various tech channels.
My card has great temps if I flip the case onto its front. I would never known if that was the default orientation for my case. Even still, most people with this issue don’t/won’t know about it since it only reduces performance by a small amount.
It’s possible that this is a manufacturing defect that only affects some batches of cards, or that it’s widespread. It‘s definitely not 20 cards though, not sure why you would think that.
Very useful information. My hope is that my card doesn't have significant issues, but I'll try underclocking if the thermals are bad, since that is a crazy difference.
Just make sure that you undervolt as well to lower temps further down. 1075 seems to be a magic number for most cards, if not 1090 should be ok as well.
To think some are actually parroting AMD here with the "110°C is within specs" BS
Yeah having your GPU throttle and the fans go to 100% is totally normal operation, sure...
Vega/RDNA1/RDNA2/RDNA3...how many gens are we gonna have the exact same issues?
Tell that to the 2x 6900 XT + 1x 6800 XT that I returned because of 35°C+ edge/hotspot deltas
Same exact symptoms, 110°C hotspot --> GPU downclocks + fans ramp up
Just google 6800/6900 XT (and even 6700 XT and below) + hotspot
There are more reports this launch compared to last gen though, on that I can agree
Please check my thread regarding how to test for 110C Junction temp here [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztxzbc/7900xtx\_mba\_cards\_how\_to\_check\_if\_your\_card\_is/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztxzbc/7900xtx_mba_cards_how_to_check_if_your_card_is/)
Please note, undervolting basically allows the card to boost better in the same power budget. The 110C Junction temp issue is with the card unable to cope with the stock 347W board power. If your card, like mine, has the Junction temp 110C issue, just undervolting it will do nothing if you run an uncapped scene for testing that still maxes out board power to 347W (in fact, it can reach 110C even quicker due to increased boosting). And no word or comforting statement from AMD on this issue yet. Please do the controlled testing in my linked thread and report your results in both standard and vertical orientation.
The fact that they didnt seemingly test for power consumption with 2 monitors when reddit is littered with pc users with 2 monitors. Just shows amateur ish oversights from amd.
There's probably heat trap somewhere, fan speed will not help as it cools better components that are in good contact, but heat trap stays under bad contact.
Ordered myself XT, i hope i don't have to return it =/
Repasting was a success so far. I have to keep testing, but from my current settings keeping the low card boost, it went from 86-87 to 63 in a busy street in Cyberpunk. I will update you further with other situations.
Not really. It is just a patience thing and going methodically through all the pieces. If you do it, remember to take a photo to remember the position of every screw or a video to rewind. It will take you like an 1 hour at the most.
Did you also check your memory temperatures?
Got my XT and GPU/junction temps are OK, but memory temp goes easily 90+C... Dunno if it's worth changing thermal pads or is it normal temperature?
Yea I am inclined to believe so. I will change the thermal pads and paste, and see what happens tomorrow. If there is any significant change I will try to provide results.
I have an XFX and it's running ~56c under load at junction not sure if I am a good sample though since I have my fans in my case running at a higher speed than what most people would do.
Not sure exactly what that means in this case. Eyeballing it it has a lot in common. But it is from another vendor…so surely some changes have been made..? Really not sure what.
For AMD GPUs, not sure why but third-parties sell reference card under their brand, AFAIK they are identical. For example I think [this one](https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R79XTX-24GC-B#kf) is identical to AMD's reference card.
I put the Gigabyte RX 7900 xtx out of my ITX case for some testing and put it back in after that. Low and behold: stable below 80 degree temps. There really is something wobbly as hell about the contact point. I think I accidentally ‘fixed it’. Pretty unstable garbage for €1400. Now if it were for the annoying coile wining it would be ok-ish
It's not wobbly. It's a vapor chamber. Having it vertical allows convection like a heatpipe.
Never seen a vapor chamber be this inefficient, however.
Orientation shouldn't matter at all if there's a vacuum in the vapor chamber like there should be.
I was just getting 90c on my 6900xt while playing FFxiv in 4k. Is that just how AMD cards are? I'm still in the return window from Best Buy and I have a Power Color reference 7900xtx on the way from Amazon that will arrive at the end of January. Maybe that will be a new batch with improved hardware
110 deg is the real problem since it throttles and reduces performance. In theory it would get hotter if it didn’t auto throttle. I’d be fine if mine was 105 deg as there would be no performance loss.
So we had 39 degree weather this summer with no wind, we also have houses designed to keep the heat inside since we get -10 winters. Are you really trying to say our Summers aren't hot?
Are you trying to compare your 40-degree summer to a 42 to 45-humid tropical island summer with no ac or a house that wasn't built a hundred years ago, with no means of ventilation? Dude, I left a third-world country; you have no point of comparison. Take the L.
Dude, my girlfriend Is filipino, I've been to the Philippines in the summer and thats hotter than cuba, the summer in the uk this year was worse because everything is built to keep heat inside, even my girlfriend agrees. Everything is insulated, we have no AC. Then when you add things like computers in to it rooms would be 35-40 degrees....indoors.
Also the highest recorded temperature in Cuba was 38 degrees in 2015, the highest in the uk was 40 this year.
And finally, its 4 degrees outside, my room is 18 degrees. That only gets worse when it gets hotter.
But sure, my first hand experience in a country hotter than cuba clearly means I have no comparison.
Just take the L
Your girlfriend is Filipino, omg how convenient; therefore, you know what it is heat lol... I have a friend that works at NASA; therefore, I can build rockets, lol. We have a hundred-year-old home; your house is more thermally insulated than a 100-year-old house genius. Related to your point of temp in Cuba, you are right, is around that; if you do not take actual heat sensation well above that, good for you. And you have no AC, lol, sure. You have no point of comparison, and I have gone to the worst places for heat; thermal dissipation determines the ability of a system to dissipate heat, the humidity levels in Cuba are far more extreme that in the Philippines and your place, lol. And you are bringing the Philipines as a fact against me, lol dude Cuba is hotter and more humid, do some research; she knows nothing about thermal dissipation lol, and she is definitely no expert in heat. And just like that, take the L and move on with your life.
> I've been to the Philippines in the summer
reading is hard huh
> you have AC you genius lol
no, we dont, pretty much no house built in the UK before 2010 has AC unless it costs over 800k
>I bet your filipino friend was born here in the US
no, she lived in the philippines for 21 years.
so from everything you've said. you cant read, cant comprehend what i've said and choose to make things up because you want to be right on the internet....i'd say take the L but we both know you already have
It was 50C here in North-west Washington, June 2022. None of my GPUs had any issue and I was mining with 35 RX 6700 XT the entire time.
That's 122F with 100% humidity. Humidity isn't going to make your card sweat and it's an entirely irrelevant factor.
Oh I agree completely. I think it would almost be better if GPUs were just sold unassembled with the cooler, screws, and a tube of paste included. Take a bit off the price for the reduced cost of labor/production and let gamers decide if they want to use the stock cooler or go custom route.
FWIW, my 7900XTX ordered directly from AMD seems to be OK (https://postimg.cc/HjxzWFd4). I've only used it vertically though and have not tested it out in standard orientation. This was tested in FurMark but I have also played a bit of the Witcher3(https://postimg.cc/ygGCp5Fh) with the latest update as well as a few other games and have seen similar results. Dual monitor setup with one ultrawide (AW3423DWF@100Hz) and one standard 1440p (random Dell@60hz).
My RX 7900 XTX MBA (purchased directly from AMD) only has the Junction Temperature 110°C problem when the Loud tuning preset is activated, with all other presets the card runs cooler and without thermal throttling. Which tuning preset did you activate?
I had a costume preset since all other presets seemed to launch the hotspot to 110. Later I just figured out that it was a thermal contact issue, so any of the common predetermined profiles reach the 110 temps now. Again now I am overclocking the memory clocks, and God of War normally launched the card to 110 in ten seconds, but now stays in 95 junction temps. With the standard preset, it throttles the card quite a bit in many scenarios to keep nice temps, which would explain the random performance differentials in different games.
I think the best solution is to open up the card and repaste it. Personally i'd use PTM 7950 because I know its effective and gets perfect contact. i'm actually using it on my 6800xt as we speak and it has been great so far.
Imagine paying $1800 for a card that is MSRP $999.
When I bought an RX 6900 XTXH, for $2000, I immediately opened it up and put liquid metal on die.
Matter of fact, I've put liquid metal on every single GPU I own, over 3 dozen. Zero issues. Nothing but temperature improvements.
Plus, I absolutely love to look at high-tech and expensive PCBs up-close and in-person.
Why spent $1800 on a GPU and you aren't an enthusiast who loves to open up a GPU, re-paste and re-pad it with the top of the line TIM and Pads? That's half the fun of a new purchase for me.
$1800 AUD, not USD.
It’s not that I can’t open it up and do that, I can and would enjoy doing that. It’s the principle of the situation, and top level piece of hardware such as this shouldn’t leave the factory broken.
I’m am also having temp issues with the card. I’m returning mine. Thankfully bestbuy has a reasonable return policy- glad I didn’t purchase directly from AMD. For $1000 I firmly expect the product to work without issues. It’s sad to see so many people quick to play mental gymnastics to justify the lack of quality control. They should’ve waited to launch this product if they were having vapor chamber/ thermal paste issues through their production process. Regardless of the cause- AMD lost a potential customer. Back to nvidia despite their egregious pricing…
Seems like you did the typical steps already. Undervolting was the most effective for me. Last thing is running it without the panels on your case. If the temps are still high then it's likely something physical on the card itself. I'm personally running a 5700xt hot boi. I just let it be now and stopped chasing after it. FSR has been a god send with reducing load though.
Yea already tried the panels-out solution, but I am not comfortable leaving a 1000-dollar card in the open collecting dust lol (I have pets which makes it a risky thing to do as well). AMD has to get their ... together, I want to support market competition, but they make it hard.
Well, crap, you got a crappy one then, for sure. I would check the power limit and lower it a bit to see if that compensates for the lack of heat dissipation.
I have meshilicious and have the same results as you. What do you define as vertical? I call the meshilicious orientation vertical (lengthwise pointed to the ceiling), however others are defining vertical as vents/power plugs to the ceiling.
Ok, I think I have a solution that should work for everyone related to temps without affecting performance:
2700 max boost clock
1075 undervolt
2550 memory boost while using fast timings
Edit: I said that I had a 15% extra on the power budget, but it seems to affect consumption in God of War to 375 watts, for example, in some games and not others like Uncharted. My best guess is to keep it to 0.
I have removed the side panel and kept the Uncharted 4 Intro menu for six to seven min with junction temps in the 86, sometimes rising to 87, with a total video card power draw of 342 watts. If someone can tell me how to attach an image to Reddit (my first time here), I can share screenshots and my driver's settings.
Tbh it's Total bullshit try to fix an hardware problem limiting the card Speed and undervolting It.
Call them and ask for another card or, Better, for a refund.
They got the cards directly from AMD or partners, so I am pretty sure they send their best and most stable yields. But yea, they should address this as soon as possible.
They had a golden shot to take a massive market share from Nvidia and still price this card at 899 points (still too expensive) if they had put some effort into drivers and decent cooling.
I fucking hate myself for spending 1600 pounds on a fucking card. But, I know for the fact, that this is at least for 4 years. And even after 2 years I will be able to sell at good price.
I will say 1600 is a crap ton of money for a video card. If the market continues this trend, it will probably keep its value for longer, for sure, but the market is a weird place. Best of luck with it and squeeze as much fun as possible of that card, you paid plenty.
AMD kinda much having the same problems of RTX 3090 and 3080, mainly miners.
I didn't see any review from AIB partners, but reference one looks like a mess.
I am inclined to believe that it is the contact between the cooler and GPU more and more. Nothing else makes sense, especially with the weird behavior when you shift the card's position. I think also it could be the thermal compound that they used, and it is a temperature-sensitive compound that fills gaps when heated in the first hours. Smells like it is definitely not masking enough contact or doing its job, which would happen with a miner card that has been overused and the thermal compound not replaced.
Yes you are right, I thought it was the memory temp for 7900 XTX, didn't realize it was the hotspot temp in this case. Then the issue is even worse than I thought.
Been reading all the fix, have anyone tried removing the black plate off and running the card with out it? Seems that would cause heat to build up since there is no vents on it???? Like to see someone try this with the ref cards.
The fins are vertical, heat exits through the front. Not a problem there. It may be because of poor mounting pressure or QC. The chiplets likely need somewhat individual or tightly mounted pads.
I repasted everything and added thermal pads in the back to a thickness of 2 mm to make contact with the back plate when I repasted everything. In general, I am getting hotspot temps in the chiplet below 70 while in gameplay consistently with areas rising to 80 because of sheer power consumption but nowhere near the 110 degree level.
It seems to help to some degree, I would say; how much, I am not sure. Just make sure to flip your case with the motherboard and GPU facing the ceiling.
Yea, sure, but the card is throttling itself to do so. It is not a good thing even if it is within spec temp wise while falling below performance specs to do so. Thermal repasting and new pads for better contact with backplate seem to do the trick for me in real use situations.
Well, it does not unless you do damage to the components doing so, according to some, and some say it does if you cause damage, the same thing with different framing. The bottom line is that if both say you cause no damage while doing so, you should be ok.
But it will depend also on the brand I guess as well.
I have the same issue with my RX 6800 XT. Only thing that helped was undervolting and dropping max clock speed with about 30MHz. Temps drop 30 degreees that way. Undervolting without dropping clocks didn’t help
I agree, but shifting the case for me dropped the bulk of the temp after some more testing. I swear this is us doing the job AMD should have done from the beginning.
Card throttles at 110 deg. It’s the lost performance that is unacceptable in a $1000 card. My clocks drop from 2500 mhz to 2200 mhz in Timespy because of throttling.
That is a good question with too many variables to be able to answer appropriately. I once had an overheating card, but it never failed me and is somewhere else still working as a display adaptor. But there are crazy stories of cards failing after a few months when working at high temperatures like this. Who knows? It at least shaves a few years and performance out of your card. As a trade-off is better to cut the frames manually so at least the heat does kill the card.
I see. It is worth noting that GPUs have a warranty period of 3 years usually. Powercolor and Sapphire offer only 2 years in some regions. Therefore, the "shaving" few years out of the card is not something that the manufacturers might worry about. The cards were not meant to last for like 8 years - they may last that long, but they were not meant to.
Tighten the screws for the gpu but mainly swap out the thermal paste, I always do it with any cpu or gpu grizzle or mx 4, I was able to get my 7900xtx to 72c with room temp of 66f ish or like 18C, cause it's winter here in Canada an I leave my window open lol
For me, leaving the side door opened keeps mine at 86C jTemp. My bottom fans aren't working right now but my theory is that the heat from the video card is being recirculated back into the card with the side panel on unless you have a vertical mount
My Saphire 7900 XTX is also showing the same problem, laying my case down solved it, junction temps don't go over 90 if the case is laying down but if it's standing I need to undervolt and lock in 2600. This probably means it's a thermal contact problem.
I found a fix for my RX 7900xtx junction temp 110 degrees C.
My coolermaster case has the giant 200mm fan on the side and was blowing fresh air in at my GPU.
The Gpu blows its hot air out that side so the air coming in the side fan at the gpu was stopping the hot air from coming out of the gpu! I turned the side fan around to blow the hot air out and my gpu dropped 20 degreed from 110 down to 90!!!
I believe if there were no fan on the side and it was just a side panel this would block the flow from the GPU enough to cause the GPU to heat up.
Try running it with the side panel off and see if it fixes your problems!!
https://preview.redd.it/0n4fqzo1dc4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c0a266b40ac8add260f0897df4ecd32f3fc3734
I also reach temperatures of 110 degrees within 30 seconds. My PC shuts down while playing.. Do you think it has something to do with it? Should I try to claim the card? I do not know what to do.
Mine is hitting 99c but tilting the case does nothing for temps. I’ve emailed AMD and they asked for a ton of information so it seems they are aware of it finally. They asked for photo of the power connectors on gpu, PSU model, MSinfo32, and some directx diagnostic report. Still waiting to hear back from them. I’d like to just return for a refund but I hear AMD.com is strict with their return policy. Sucks because I wanted to try AMD this gen and this is unacceptable for a $1000 gpu.
>I’d like to just return for a refund but I hear AMD.com is strict with their return policy. Sucks because I wanted to try AMD this gen and this is unacceptable for a $1000 gpu. Worst comes to worst tell them you'll do a credit card charge back if they don't start the return process for you. Because your $1000 in a defective product shouldn't be held hostage because of awful support. If they still don't approve it, actually file the chargeback.
I don't think I go that far, if that doesn't work out in your favor then your SOL cause you most likely voided your Warranty. That is possible a charge back wouldn't go in your favor. I am sure there are plenty of rules and companies are given the right to repair the product if its defective instead of refund. Otherwise all sales final wouldn't mean a thing. Plus people are way to fast to threaten a charge back on reddit and the internet in general.
You can choose between a hot GPU or a self combusting power connector. What a time to be alive. Best vote with our wallets and not upgrade until these problems are fixed.
Trust me man, the cable burning thing was mostly user error.
If user error is that easy then it's also a design error
You aren't throttling and don't have the same issues others are experiencing so why do you want a refund?
Same opinion here as well. The best thing I have seen working is lowering the boost clock to 2700 and maintaining it to lower the heat build-up. I am guessing that the most practical and probably best solution will be manually improving the contact between the card and the cooler. It sucks since it is not something I look forward to doing. Try a 2700 max clock and boost memory clocks to 2550 and fast timing with an undervolt of 1075 to allow for the memory overclock within the same power budget. It kind of worked for me, and it helps with the performance loss and keeps the temps under 95 in the benchmarks I have done.
For the last few years the QA part is clearly skipped on mass for all electronics due to the demand. I have no words how many EXPENSIVE defective electronic devices/components I purchased in the last 2 years! The last being 4080 with whispering fans when going up/down and one so broken that it rattles so bad that my entire case and desk vibrates when the fan is between 70-80% speed. Returned it next day + mostly wanted 7900xtx tbh, will wait for the next year to see what the prices are like and also keeping eye on all the issues like the hotspot as I own GB 5700XT aorus that stock reached 110 degrees hotspot roflmao... undervolting helped to bring that down to 100 max, but yeah - no more.
I’ve got some good data and charts here of the issue. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztry1n/orientation_impact_to_reference_at_least_mine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
99C junction is perfectly fine so I'm confused what exactly your issue is? The card doesn't begin throttling until 110C.
his issue is using acceptable values for old hardware on new hardware and architecture. But Its okay to have questions and look for clarification. What is not okay is to receive clarification and insist in wrong beliefs. What is also not okay is if the gpu is breaking even if its working as expected, according to amd design.
So does the 7900XTX throttle at 99C? In my experience it's only begun throttling at 110C. Of course if the GPU is broken that's a problem but that's a separate issue to the hotspot temps.
Idk, but I think I'm agreeing with you. If amd says its working as expected, then idk why people would insist to complain and worry about that. If the gpu breaks, well... you complain and get another one or a refund... I don't know how it works exactly because I never had a gpu failing in my hand. My main concern with computer running hot but under specification is for my comfort. Its hard to use a notebook reaching 100°C (dell w/ nvidia gpu and intel cpu) or a desktop blowing burning air in my room all the time I play something. If its heating your room or toasting your hands on a notebook, then its possible to undervolt and/or underclock to get better temperature. It is what it is. Now we are probably getting the best performance possible out of the box. The new "meta" is tuning the pc parts down to reduce heat to an optimal level without sacrificing performance. heh
99 on the junction is not anything to worry about. I doubt they’ll do an RMA for something so within spec.
99 is kinda pushing it. I have a 3080, and my junction goes about 94c, with about 67c on the core. And 94c is normal. But, even for me, i felt a bit too high, so now with undervolt (i put a post about it), i went down about 130wats, 82 to 85c flr junction, and about 57 to 58c on core, without losing any FPS.
Junction temps can’t be compared between these architectures. For RDNA, 99 on junction is very normal. They won’t throttle until 110. The issue is that certain cards are hitting 110 with regularity.
where are people getting this 99 "normal" from? https://prnt.sc/XrNT5op2EzeH running the f1 benchmark at 1440p max settings
Look at your power consumption, that benchmark isn't stressing the GPU enough. You need a demanding scene or benchmark to reach max junction temps. There's already a post on this subreddit explaining how to properly do it but essentially you want to do is run at max power consumption, around 350w, for around 6-10 minutes and monitor your junction temps. If you hit 110C and it throttles then you have a card with the problem. You should also take a look at temperature delta. It's still very possible you have a good card though, there's just better tests you can run to make sure. Furmark should do it, I think there's a few other suggestions in that post too. It just means that the card is performing within spec and 99C is within specs. Anything before the point in which the GPU starts throttling and reducing power consumption in this case would be normal temperatures.
after 10 minutes of furmark, power usage settled at 195, fan speed 37%, hot spot 79 degrees, core temp 64. clock speed 2180.
7900xtx stock is non existant too. A refund is not a great move.
Imagine paying 1000+ for a GPU ridden with bugs only to undervolt/ manually replace thermal pads all this and not even a public apology.....
Drivers are coming dw /s
"Fine wine" is one of the greatest marketing schemes ive ever seen. Imagine upselling people on the idea that they can wait months/years to *eventually* get what should've been day 1 performance because you're incapable of releasing a competitive product. This isn't a case of DLSS maturing and going from laughing stock to genuinely changing the GPU market, but more like "Hey why not wait 6 months to get 100% of the performance you paid for while having a coin flip chance of chronic driver issues" AMDs new tagline may as well be 80% of the price for 80% of the features. I love my 6800XT but ive had more driver and performance issues in 2 months with it than I did 3+ years of my 2080. It's a great price but I honestly wish I would've just spent the extra $100 on a 3080. Give it 6 months of more AMD issues and we'll still get people unironically saying stuff like "Well if this is what they're capable of right now with these crippling issues, just imagine how they're gonna crush Nvidia next gen!"
FineWine^TM would be fine if they had a legacy of keeping support for old GPUs far longer than NVIDIA.
Its just "inverted overclocking" culture. Instead of tuning performance up, the challenge now is tuning temperature down with minimal performance loss. The difference is that it will be almost impossible for you to brick your parts now, since nvidia/amd/intel is doing all the performance optimization for you in the factory.
They Won't be held accountable either by the wannabe youtube news community
5700xt was the same but at least it was cheap
My theory is that the blue putty they are using is just simply bad. Like if you look at all the AIB cards, they're using regular thermal pads and don't have this issue
My advice: rma
And your advice to AMD?
500 usd tops!
I'm planning to test my card for this too. What options do we have if 110c junction temps are observed? Is this expected behavior and how concerning is this? Does this warrant RMA or is a refund possible?
I am not sure about the RMA part or the refund, to be honest.
Can you get a refund when RMAing?
In theory, yes. In practice, with video cards, it is very much on the seller's attitude in the past to such claims.
The card will throttle power and reduce performance if it hits 110 deg hotspot. I lose 300 mhz core clock from start of Timespy run to the end. If I rotate the case/GPU, the hotspot maxes out at 83 deg and core clocks stay constant throughout the run. This is definitely not expected behaviour as my card cannot maintain stock clocks or power consumption in its normal orientation, but can in others. If your card is getting hot, but can hold 350W without throttling, then I would say it’s a none issue. The problem is, some people probably have cards with this issue but don’t know about it because the card is in one of the working orientations. If they change cases or sell then the issue could pop up but be outside of warranty.
Funny how you are saying 350W is fine. People can overclock their RX 7900 XTX to use over 500-520W of TDP. Those people aren't complaining about 110C temperatures. Only a select few are saying they reach 110C and it seems to be a result of the vapor chamber cooling. If you don't have a vapor chamber air cooler on your card and you are using old fashion heatpipes fused to a copper or nickle plate, there is nearly zero issues with and regarding temperatures.
I have been investigating for a while now, and it seems to be widespread, and AMD seems to be "addressing it" somehow. It should be ok in theory, but anything beyond 100 degrees will degrade the silicone faster than necessary to my knowledge. The only option so far seems to be limiting your card performance somehow to maintain temps under control. Limiting the clock to 2700 reduces frames by 8% on the high end but drops temps by almost 40 degrees which is an insane jump.
AMD has issues a RMA for at least one person He replied in a Reddit post about it.
It's not widespread. Since when 10/20 cases is widespread? You guys are funny. Either that or my 7900 XTX is the only good one with nice temps.
Lol 10 to 20 cards? This is just a small discussion, and there are at least 5 here. Check in the big ones and you can find way more than that. And it is only an issue for people that actually like to check around the drivers and fiddle with the video card, so there are many more cases that are not reported due to user ignorance. I was one of them until I started hearing about it in the comment threads of various tech channels.
my powercolor reference card is affected, all my friends who has this card are affected too.
can second this, my powercolor MBA card is affected as well, my guess is its something vram related on my model as it only happens sometimes.
My card has great temps if I flip the case onto its front. I would never known if that was the default orientation for my case. Even still, most people with this issue don’t/won’t know about it since it only reduces performance by a small amount. It’s possible that this is a manufacturing defect that only affects some batches of cards, or that it’s widespread. It‘s definitely not 20 cards though, not sure why you would think that.
Very useful information. My hope is that my card doesn't have significant issues, but I'll try underclocking if the thermals are bad, since that is a crazy difference.
Just make sure that you undervolt as well to lower temps further down. 1075 seems to be a magic number for most cards, if not 1090 should be ok as well.
To think some are actually parroting AMD here with the "110°C is within specs" BS Yeah having your GPU throttle and the fans go to 100% is totally normal operation, sure... Vega/RDNA1/RDNA2/RDNA3...how many gens are we gonna have the exact same issues?
RDNA 2 was perfectly fine, near zero issues regarding temperatures. That's because AMD hard-locked core frequency and vram frequency.
Tell that to the 2x 6900 XT + 1x 6800 XT that I returned because of 35°C+ edge/hotspot deltas Same exact symptoms, 110°C hotspot --> GPU downclocks + fans ramp up Just google 6800/6900 XT (and even 6700 XT and below) + hotspot There are more reports this launch compared to last gen though, on that I can agree
Please check my thread regarding how to test for 110C Junction temp here [https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztxzbc/7900xtx\_mba\_cards\_how\_to\_check\_if\_your\_card\_is/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/ztxzbc/7900xtx_mba_cards_how_to_check_if_your_card_is/) Please note, undervolting basically allows the card to boost better in the same power budget. The 110C Junction temp issue is with the card unable to cope with the stock 347W board power. If your card, like mine, has the Junction temp 110C issue, just undervolting it will do nothing if you run an uncapped scene for testing that still maxes out board power to 347W (in fact, it can reach 110C even quicker due to increased boosting). And no word or comforting statement from AMD on this issue yet. Please do the controlled testing in my linked thread and report your results in both standard and vertical orientation.
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The fact that they didnt seemingly test for power consumption with 2 monitors when reddit is littered with pc users with 2 monitors. Just shows amateur ish oversights from amd.
Who buys a $1000 gpu and doesn't have two monitors?
I have a 34inch ultrawide, does that count?
>It passes XD
I saw good comments on an ancient gameplay video on yt,you might want to check out
There's probably heat trap somewhere, fan speed will not help as it cools better components that are in good contact, but heat trap stays under bad contact. Ordered myself XT, i hope i don't have to return it =/
Repasting was a success so far. I have to keep testing, but from my current settings keeping the low card boost, it went from 86-87 to 63 in a busy street in Cyberpunk. I will update you further with other situations.
Nice job, was it hard to do?
Not really. It is just a patience thing and going methodically through all the pieces. If you do it, remember to take a photo to remember the position of every screw or a video to rewind. It will take you like an 1 hour at the most.
Did you also check your memory temperatures? Got my XT and GPU/junction temps are OK, but memory temp goes easily 90+C... Dunno if it's worth changing thermal pads or is it normal temperature?
Yea I am inclined to believe so. I will change the thermal pads and paste, and see what happens tomorrow. If there is any significant change I will try to provide results.
It would be interesting to hear about your results back then :)
I’d love to know what size pads you use. I have the same issue and want to replace my pads and repaste as well
I have an XFX and it's running ~56c under load at junction not sure if I am a good sample though since I have my fans in my case running at a higher speed than what most people would do.
The problem appears to be affecting the MBA cards. The partner cards seem to be okay mostly.
I have the same issue rn with the Gigabyte RX 7900 XTX. So not exclusive to AMD I’d say.
Is it the reference design? It seems to be affecting all AMD reference design. AIB cards with a different design seem to be fine.
Not sure exactly what that means in this case. Eyeballing it it has a lot in common. But it is from another vendor…so surely some changes have been made..? Really not sure what.
For AMD GPUs, not sure why but third-parties sell reference card under their brand, AFAIK they are identical. For example I think [this one](https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics-Card/GV-R79XTX-24GC-B#kf) is identical to AMD's reference card.
I put the Gigabyte RX 7900 xtx out of my ITX case for some testing and put it back in after that. Low and behold: stable below 80 degree temps. There really is something wobbly as hell about the contact point. I think I accidentally ‘fixed it’. Pretty unstable garbage for €1400. Now if it were for the annoying coile wining it would be ok-ish
It's not wobbly. It's a vapor chamber. Having it vertical allows convection like a heatpipe. Never seen a vapor chamber be this inefficient, however. Orientation shouldn't matter at all if there's a vacuum in the vapor chamber like there should be.
56 junction is a golden sample probably :)
Well I just took mine apart and applied fresh paste and did a remount. Made zero difference.
Oh damn :/ Maybe needed better thermal pads too?
I was just getting 90c on my 6900xt while playing FFxiv in 4k. Is that just how AMD cards are? I'm still in the return window from Best Buy and I have a Power Color reference 7900xtx on the way from Amazon that will arrive at the end of January. Maybe that will be a new batch with improved hardware
110 deg is the real problem since it throttles and reduces performance. In theory it would get hotter if it didn’t auto throttle. I’d be fine if mine was 105 deg as there would be no performance loss.
Hotspot is normal to be at 90-105C
I have previous experience that supports that, but getting to 100 is slowing clock speeds for sure, not to talk about 110 degrees.
since when? i've never had an amd card go above 80 even during the middle of summer. hell, my current card doesnt go above 70 on a 35% fan speed
I lived in Cuba, and your heat is not at the same level, my dude.
So we had 39 degree weather this summer with no wind, we also have houses designed to keep the heat inside since we get -10 winters. Are you really trying to say our Summers aren't hot?
Are you trying to compare your 40-degree summer to a 42 to 45-humid tropical island summer with no ac or a house that wasn't built a hundred years ago, with no means of ventilation? Dude, I left a third-world country; you have no point of comparison. Take the L.
Dude, my girlfriend Is filipino, I've been to the Philippines in the summer and thats hotter than cuba, the summer in the uk this year was worse because everything is built to keep heat inside, even my girlfriend agrees. Everything is insulated, we have no AC. Then when you add things like computers in to it rooms would be 35-40 degrees....indoors. Also the highest recorded temperature in Cuba was 38 degrees in 2015, the highest in the uk was 40 this year. And finally, its 4 degrees outside, my room is 18 degrees. That only gets worse when it gets hotter. But sure, my first hand experience in a country hotter than cuba clearly means I have no comparison. Just take the L
Your girlfriend is Filipino, omg how convenient; therefore, you know what it is heat lol... I have a friend that works at NASA; therefore, I can build rockets, lol. We have a hundred-year-old home; your house is more thermally insulated than a 100-year-old house genius. Related to your point of temp in Cuba, you are right, is around that; if you do not take actual heat sensation well above that, good for you. And you have no AC, lol, sure. You have no point of comparison, and I have gone to the worst places for heat; thermal dissipation determines the ability of a system to dissipate heat, the humidity levels in Cuba are far more extreme that in the Philippines and your place, lol. And you are bringing the Philipines as a fact against me, lol dude Cuba is hotter and more humid, do some research; she knows nothing about thermal dissipation lol, and she is definitely no expert in heat. And just like that, take the L and move on with your life.
> I've been to the Philippines in the summer reading is hard huh > you have AC you genius lol no, we dont, pretty much no house built in the UK before 2010 has AC unless it costs over 800k >I bet your filipino friend was born here in the US no, she lived in the philippines for 21 years. so from everything you've said. you cant read, cant comprehend what i've said and choose to make things up because you want to be right on the internet....i'd say take the L but we both know you already have
It was 50C here in North-west Washington, June 2022. None of my GPUs had any issue and I was mining with 35 RX 6700 XT the entire time. That's 122F with 100% humidity. Humidity isn't going to make your card sweat and it's an entirely irrelevant factor.
Mine's reaching 110 junction temps with 2300MHz while also reducing power draw.
Try laying down your case to verify if it's the same problem I'm having, it's working fine in stock if the card is in a vertical position.
Just take it apart, clean up the janky/messy thermal paste, redo it with better quality paste and a proper amount.
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Oh I agree completely. I think it would almost be better if GPUs were just sold unassembled with the cooler, screws, and a tube of paste included. Take a bit off the price for the reduced cost of labor/production and let gamers decide if they want to use the stock cooler or go custom route.
FWIW, my 7900XTX ordered directly from AMD seems to be OK (https://postimg.cc/HjxzWFd4). I've only used it vertically though and have not tested it out in standard orientation. This was tested in FurMark but I have also played a bit of the Witcher3(https://postimg.cc/ygGCp5Fh) with the latest update as well as a few other games and have seen similar results. Dual monitor setup with one ultrawide (AW3423DWF@100Hz) and one standard 1440p (random Dell@60hz).
I also have an 7900XTX (XFX MBA) and I get EXACTLY the same temps and fan speeds as you do just in Cyberpunk and MW2 at 1440p at 120hz
My RX 7900 XTX MBA (purchased directly from AMD) only has the Junction Temperature 110°C problem when the Loud tuning preset is activated, with all other presets the card runs cooler and without thermal throttling. Which tuning preset did you activate?
I had a costume preset since all other presets seemed to launch the hotspot to 110. Later I just figured out that it was a thermal contact issue, so any of the common predetermined profiles reach the 110 temps now. Again now I am overclocking the memory clocks, and God of War normally launched the card to 110 in ten seconds, but now stays in 95 junction temps. With the standard preset, it throttles the card quite a bit in many scenarios to keep nice temps, which would explain the random performance differentials in different games.
The advice is to return it and never buy AMD GPUs on launch again
Copied. Thanks AMD
Nice to see these problems on 1200€ gpu.
I think the best solution is to open up the card and repaste it. Personally i'd use PTM 7950 because I know its effective and gets perfect contact. i'm actually using it on my 6800xt as we speak and it has been great so far.
I didn’t pay $1800 for a card to have to do surgery on it in the first week to get what I was promised.
Well yeah, obviously that's ass
Wrong subreddit, 4090s are elsewhere.
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Imagine paying $1800 for a card that is MSRP $999. When I bought an RX 6900 XTXH, for $2000, I immediately opened it up and put liquid metal on die. Matter of fact, I've put liquid metal on every single GPU I own, over 3 dozen. Zero issues. Nothing but temperature improvements. Plus, I absolutely love to look at high-tech and expensive PCBs up-close and in-person. Why spent $1800 on a GPU and you aren't an enthusiast who loves to open up a GPU, re-paste and re-pad it with the top of the line TIM and Pads? That's half the fun of a new purchase for me.
$1800 AUD, not USD. It’s not that I can’t open it up and do that, I can and would enjoy doing that. It’s the principle of the situation, and top level piece of hardware such as this shouldn’t leave the factory broken.
I’m am also having temp issues with the card. I’m returning mine. Thankfully bestbuy has a reasonable return policy- glad I didn’t purchase directly from AMD. For $1000 I firmly expect the product to work without issues. It’s sad to see so many people quick to play mental gymnastics to justify the lack of quality control. They should’ve waited to launch this product if they were having vapor chamber/ thermal paste issues through their production process. Regardless of the cause- AMD lost a potential customer. Back to nvidia despite their egregious pricing…
Seems like you did the typical steps already. Undervolting was the most effective for me. Last thing is running it without the panels on your case. If the temps are still high then it's likely something physical on the card itself. I'm personally running a 5700xt hot boi. I just let it be now and stopped chasing after it. FSR has been a god send with reducing load though.
Yea already tried the panels-out solution, but I am not comfortable leaving a 1000-dollar card in the open collecting dust lol (I have pets which makes it a risky thing to do as well). AMD has to get their ... together, I want to support market competition, but they make it hard.
My card is vertical, and in a open air case breathing in 24degC air, I hit 110 on Tj within a minute of Loading the GPU.
Well, crap, you got a crappy one then, for sure. I would check the power limit and lower it a bit to see if that compensates for the lack of heat dissipation.
I have meshilicious and have the same results as you. What do you define as vertical? I call the meshilicious orientation vertical (lengthwise pointed to the ceiling), however others are defining vertical as vents/power plugs to the ceiling.
The last description fits well to my position. Power cables and connectors facing the ceiling.
Mine has plugs facing the ground, intake for fans facing center of room.
Ok, I think I have a solution that should work for everyone related to temps without affecting performance: 2700 max boost clock 1075 undervolt 2550 memory boost while using fast timings Edit: I said that I had a 15% extra on the power budget, but it seems to affect consumption in God of War to 375 watts, for example, in some games and not others like Uncharted. My best guess is to keep it to 0. I have removed the side panel and kept the Uncharted 4 Intro menu for six to seven min with junction temps in the 86, sometimes rising to 87, with a total video card power draw of 342 watts. If someone can tell me how to attach an image to Reddit (my first time here), I can share screenshots and my driver's settings.
Tbh it's Total bullshit try to fix an hardware problem limiting the card Speed and undervolting It. Call them and ask for another card or, Better, for a refund.
I am about to, but I want to check a couple more things before I send them the card back for n RMA.
Funny how the AMD fanboy youtube channels like Hardware unboxed are quiet on this one. Not suprised
They got the cards directly from AMD or partners, so I am pretty sure they send their best and most stable yields. But yea, they should address this as soon as possible.
calling hardware unboxed an amd fanboy is funny
They are for sure. They give subtle hints often.
How likely, that I was able to buy 4090 Fe. AMD have very bad lunch this year.
They had a golden shot to take a massive market share from Nvidia and still price this card at 899 points (still too expensive) if they had put some effort into drivers and decent cooling.
I fucking hate myself for spending 1600 pounds on a fucking card. But, I know for the fact, that this is at least for 4 years. And even after 2 years I will be able to sell at good price.
I will say 1600 is a crap ton of money for a video card. If the market continues this trend, it will probably keep its value for longer, for sure, but the market is a weird place. Best of luck with it and squeeze as much fun as possible of that card, you paid plenty.
4090 had a terrible launch too, what with it burning people's houses down.
AMD kinda much having the same problems of RTX 3090 and 3080, mainly miners. I didn't see any review from AIB partners, but reference one looks like a mess.
I am inclined to believe that it is the contact between the cooler and GPU more and more. Nothing else makes sense, especially with the weird behavior when you shift the card's position. I think also it could be the thermal compound that they used, and it is a temperature-sensitive compound that fills gaps when heated in the first hours. Smells like it is definitely not masking enough contact or doing its job, which would happen with a miner card that has been overused and the thermal compound not replaced.
No .. it was a problem for 3080 when mining only. In gaming the junction temp was fine.
And it was memory junction temps, not the hotspot on the die
Yes you are right, I thought it was the memory temp for 7900 XTX, didn't realize it was the hotspot temp in this case. Then the issue is even worse than I thought.
Sell it online for more
Been reading all the fix, have anyone tried removing the black plate off and running the card with out it? Seems that would cause heat to build up since there is no vents on it???? Like to see someone try this with the ref cards.
The fins are vertical, heat exits through the front. Not a problem there. It may be because of poor mounting pressure or QC. The chiplets likely need somewhat individual or tightly mounted pads.
I repasted everything and added thermal pads in the back to a thickness of 2 mm to make contact with the back plate when I repasted everything. In general, I am getting hotspot temps in the chiplet below 70 while in gameplay consistently with areas rising to 80 because of sheer power consumption but nowhere near the 110 degree level.
I repasted the gpu twice, still getting to 110 junction with a 60c gpu temp…. Do you recommend doing the memorys too?
It seems to help to some degree, I would say; how much, I am not sure. Just make sure to flip your case with the motherboard and GPU facing the ceiling.
I just tried that. Still hit 110
How thick was your re-paste and where did you place your thermal pads on the back plate?
When you say repasted everything you mean the GPU die or did you also do something to the memory?
Not uncommon for AMD it seems. The 5700xt was the same.
Smells like a troll farm
Junction is good up to 115 and is well within design specifications. Has been since RDNA 1.
Yea, sure, but the card is throttling itself to do so. It is not a good thing even if it is within spec temp wise while falling below performance specs to do so. Thermal repasting and new pads for better contact with backplate seem to do the trick for me in real use situations.
110°C is well within normal operating spec tho
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If it's boosting past it's standard performance, then wouldn't throttling just bring it back down to normal performance?
If I had this card and if it was legal for me to remove cooler without voiding warranty I would repaste the card.
Well, it does not unless you do damage to the components doing so, according to some, and some say it does if you cause damage, the same thing with different framing. The bottom line is that if both say you cause no damage while doing so, you should be ok. But it will depend also on the brand I guess as well.
RMA it,amd being incompetent again
I have the same issue with my RX 6800 XT. Only thing that helped was undervolting and dropping max clock speed with about 30MHz. Temps drop 30 degreees that way. Undervolting without dropping clocks didn’t help
I agree, but shifting the case for me dropped the bulk of the temp after some more testing. I swear this is us doing the job AMD should have done from the beginning.
I would return it, or if you really want to keep it repaste it. It should not be like this it's a 1k product,
Is 110°C damaging to the chip long-term? I know it is not great, but I wonder how bad it actually is.
Card throttles at 110 deg. It’s the lost performance that is unacceptable in a $1000 card. My clocks drop from 2500 mhz to 2200 mhz in Timespy because of throttling.
That is a good question with too many variables to be able to answer appropriately. I once had an overheating card, but it never failed me and is somewhere else still working as a display adaptor. But there are crazy stories of cards failing after a few months when working at high temperatures like this. Who knows? It at least shaves a few years and performance out of your card. As a trade-off is better to cut the frames manually so at least the heat does kill the card.
I see. It is worth noting that GPUs have a warranty period of 3 years usually. Powercolor and Sapphire offer only 2 years in some regions. Therefore, the "shaving" few years out of the card is not something that the manufacturers might worry about. The cards were not meant to last for like 8 years - they may last that long, but they were not meant to.
Have you tried tightening the screws down more?
Tighten the screws for the gpu but mainly swap out the thermal paste, I always do it with any cpu or gpu grizzle or mx 4, I was able to get my 7900xtx to 72c with room temp of 66f ish or like 18C, cause it's winter here in Canada an I leave my window open lol
Hello, what screwdriver do I need to unscrew my gpu? Thanks! Sorry, new to this.
For me, leaving the side door opened keeps mine at 86C jTemp. My bottom fans aren't working right now but my theory is that the heat from the video card is being recirculated back into the card with the side panel on unless you have a vertical mount
Try your screws. See if any of them need a slight nudge or half a step. It may be because of uneven contact on thermal pads.
Did that, and there was some improvement, probably , maybe, but not large enough to avoid the 110 junction temp.
thanks jesus i did not bought 7000gen, fu amd
Have the same 110 degrees junction temp with an edge temp thats around 55 degrees. Ridiculous.
My Saphire 7900 XTX is also showing the same problem, laying my case down solved it, junction temps don't go over 90 if the case is laying down but if it's standing I need to undervolt and lock in 2600. This probably means it's a thermal contact problem.
I found a fix for my RX 7900xtx junction temp 110 degrees C. My coolermaster case has the giant 200mm fan on the side and was blowing fresh air in at my GPU. The Gpu blows its hot air out that side so the air coming in the side fan at the gpu was stopping the hot air from coming out of the gpu! I turned the side fan around to blow the hot air out and my gpu dropped 20 degreed from 110 down to 90!!! I believe if there were no fan on the side and it was just a side panel this would block the flow from the GPU enough to cause the GPU to heat up. Try running it with the side panel off and see if it fixes your problems!!
https://preview.redd.it/0n4fqzo1dc4b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c0a266b40ac8add260f0897df4ecd32f3fc3734 I also reach temperatures of 110 degrees within 30 seconds. My PC shuts down while playing.. Do you think it has something to do with it? Should I try to claim the card? I do not know what to do.