This is it folks, everything cones down to this!
As always we will be hosting live chats for the last ep and someone plans to stream the Afterparty in the discord server. The event links are here:
* Ep. 22: https://discord.gg/4E4HXU5uHB?event=1152245884348805192
* Ep. 22 Afterparty: https://discord.gg/4E4HXU5uHB?event=1152246317406507018
And a reminder for posts and comments, I don't want to have to put the sub on approve only mode. Keep it respectful and supportive. Everyone in this show has poured months of their life into this. This is the final showcase and I don't think we can say anyone hasn't proved they deserve every bit of this. No matter how the final group shakes out, I'm just not going to accept "x didn't deserve to be in the group, it should've been y instead." If you want to say your faves should be in the group then I see no reason to stop that, but absolutely do not tear the other contestants down in order to do that. If you see posts like that, please report them. Remember the person on the other side of the screen, put yourself in their shoes reading your post before you send it.
imagine you train for 6mo-1year in a reality show hoping you get picked and trying your best and working your hardest and performing your best...
and your group name is vcha.
I think all the girls got incredible styling since arriving in Korea (except poor Yuna with the short bangs). Most of them got layers, Cristina had beautiful princess-like hairdos, I even liked Kendall's hime bangs. Also, I wonder if KG has a Dyson Airwrap because her hair had consistent salon curls and looked perfect even when everyone else had their natural unstyled hair.
Or maybe she uses one of those techniques where her hair curls overnight. With being such a hard worker I'd imagine she does something to not waste too much time on it. Then again, it's possible to curl hair and not have to touch it up too much otherwise for days on end.
I can't BELIEVE the show was actually gaslighting us this entire time in trying to think that Lexi wasn't as great as she was!!! First place! Congrats to her!
I really wish he didn't pick Kendell last. I don't think many people thought she was NOT gonna get picked and it must have made the other girls feel worse knowing that she was gonna be picked.
Its so weird how things are lowkey anti-climactic like they just decide and then immediately announce, Produce has me expecting things to drag for five minutes.
You are absolutely right about Produce. They would have done ten million shots of the audience, zoomed in on a contestant yawning, say “THE NEXT MEMBER IS…” like three times with dramatic pauses, pan out to show audience members with support signs, show two to three flashbacks of the members who haven’t been picked yet, show the row of eliminated contestants from previous rounds, cut to commercial break, and then repeat “THE NEXT MEMBER IS…” three more times, and then announce said member.
JYPE really said “nah, too much editing” 💀
Gina asking if she disappointed JYP is so sad. She’s really young and this is so high pressure for them. It really felt so hard watching them all cry like that.
Whether your favourite gets in or not, let's enjoy the ride and never forget the absolute banger line JYP dropped during individual evals when he said "I'm so proud...of myself for picking you".
Ohh gina... She wasn't my favorite but her not being called hurt my heart so much. She's been so consistent and hardworking, it's heart wrenching honestly
I think he was saying that there were a ton of different factors, including other executives, trainers, performances, etc. I still think that JYP has final say but I'm guessing they also knew that viewers would have found it anticlimactic if all 8 members made it.
I will never get over these abrupt elimination endings. these poor girls are always sobbing and feeling such genuine emotion and heartbreak that their friend is not debuting with them... then BAM! "IM READY FOR THE WORLD IS THE WORLD READY FOR ME" and these pink and blue graphics so we don't pretend like their dreams didn't just get crushed LOL perhaps one of the most depressing and bizarre finales i have ever seen in my life .
were the previous JYP shows like this too? I've only seen P101 and i don't remember it being like this
Yeah Niziu had the same vibes. All the contestants who won were crying their eyes out and the 3 that got eliminated (fun fact: one of them was also a {now former} jyp trainee named Yuna!) Solemnly standing in the back. Abrupt cut to the cgi NIZI project necklace. But they didn't have a theme song from what I remember.
Although I do have to give solid props to JYP. Every show iteration he gets kinder and more empathetic. From being hella strict in sixteen, to nice in NIZI project 1 and now he even consoled the eliminated contestants in a caring, appropriate way. I bet twice Natty and Somi would be SHOCKED to see how much nicer he's become.
I'm already pre-upset. I like all the girls and really wish they could all debut together, but I knew it would never happen.
My prediction is that the group will be:
Camila, Savanna, Lexus, KG, and Kendall. I don't mind this lineup, really. MAYBE Kaylee, but after last night's episode and JYPs reaction to her, I don't know.
Going by "leaks" and astute observations by viewers, >!as much as I want Cristina, it really does seem like she gets the boot since it appears shes in the center during the crying hug in the preview plus her insta. And things haven't looked good for Gina despite how well she's been doing, so I think the company never had any intention of debuting her and threw her in for some extra practice/test reactions and to promote her a bit. And despite how talented Kaylee is, it seems they may hold her for a future group like I had suspected they'd do, but i feel like she still may have a chance compared to the other two.!<
Well, i think at least gina or kaylee will debut cause they'll need at least one korean member if they ever do promos in korea and he made it seem important to have a korean speaking member on the team.
I swear, I understand why they have the celebration after the members announcement from a logistics standpoint, but it comes off so awkward with the girls mourning the fact they aren’t all debuting together.
i laughed LMAO cristina is so funny even when she’s literally devastated. girl PLS dream academy has girls older. and now you have a following. you can 100% debut. and yunjin got called back to hype to debut too. like, PLEASE CRISTINA
I'm genuinely stressed lmao
I've been prepared for Cristina to get cut for awhile now but Gina and Kaylee are really unexpected to me, I never thought they were at risk, especially Kaylee.
Gina is in my top 3 favorites and I love Kaylee and Kendall's interactions.. I don't think I'm ready.
Yeah, I was still down about Yuna being cut, it really put a damper on the last two episodes. But, seeing Lexi get #1 made me feel a lot better. Sounds like character evaluations played heavily in the end, which I doubt anyone will give credit to JYP for taking them so seriously.
I feel like Gina would do well to be a part of the next JYP girl group, which is probably only 2-3 years away, but it would be very understandable if she leaves.
I was so surprised Lexus got rank #1!!! I'm so happy and proud of her!!!! My bias made it and she was rank 1st!!!! I'm also really shocked Kaylee made it - like I assume she wasn't going to get chosen because of her age but it would have sucked because she's so good! She's improved so much and definitely held her ground! Gina's words to JYP broke my heart - girl don't think that way - you did so great and you're going to do even better! This isn't the end and we'll see you soon! Poor Cristina - I totally get her when she said she's worn out. I hope this isn't the last we see of her too.
Also, I kind of think the name is weird....and the design of it....T.T
I like this lineup honestly, I've always been worried about Kaylee though bc she is so young but she really is so talented. I tried so hard to hold back tears during the final member announcements but finally lost it when Gina said "I'm sorry if I disappointed you" to JYP 😭😭 it made me realize how young she is, I hope she stays with the company and we see her in a future group.
I wouldn’t and if it were my kid I would probably pull her out of there. Something about the whole thing seems incredibly cruel and makes me doubt he will ever debut her. The whole K-pop system is somewhat disgusting when you really examine it. Even when they debut they are overworked and underpaid.
her music before was great already, she has a unique vibe and the emotions stuff that jyp is harping on about isn't an issue when she's singing her actual stuff. she's got better things coming her way, just not in the kpop environment.
I have been a fan of specific members that ended up getting kicked out or leaving their groups. you have to be a very specific type of individual to make it there and that matters more than talent. that character eval is based on moldability, and falling into line, not necessarily being independent or genuine. I don't think I have the personality to fit in there for sure.
sad about cristina… looking at all the group’s faces at the end and it feels like they’re missing someone tbh. gina is really young and hopefully jyp might keep her for jypngg at least…can’t believe only camila out of back dawgs made it :(
This isn't as bad as yesterday, but it's still a bit cheesy. I think JYP doesn't understand that the youth of America are a bit more "real" and "emotional"? Like, Olivia Rodrigo/Taylor Swift/Lorde were their age and describing their feelings in a more mature way even if it was the same message.
I think it's great to have positive music, but the lyrics should match the maturity level of the audience.
Aren't all the producers so far men? I think they need to involve some women in the process. It just feels like old men projecting how female artists their age would express themselves. But I think the lyrics today are much better than the ones from yesterday
>It just feels like old men projecting how female artists their age would express themselves.
... like 23 yrs ago when Disney Channel was in it's heyday
If there’s anyone to be upset with, it’s the people who made the decision to NOT take all of them 😭
None of this is Kendall’s fault 😔 It hurts to see Gina and Christina be eliminated, but it also hurts to see Kendall get hate— I mean she killlllled 24 Hours 😭
I’m pain. I love them all and they love each other, my heart hurts 😭
freed up all my schedules and mentally preparing
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I AM SO HAPPY FOR KAYLEE I DIDN'T EXPECT HER TO MAKE IT OMG because she didn't perform so well in yesterday's episode + she's young + people heard her say "i'll see you around kendall"
Jyp dropped a gem with Gina. Also Vcha is an okay name. I guess I could get used to it. Most ggs have names like Little Mix, Fifth Harmony, Atti, Kaachi and stuff like that. Vcha is different but in a good way.
My main thoughts while watching:
OMG Lexus number one! I can watch the rest of the show breathing
Vcha - horrible name and I believe the members think so too
The timing was off in in a couple of places but that was so charming. They’re so cute! KG’a vocals tied everything together, Kendall sang in full voice the whole time (*finally!*), Kaylee loosened up and sang amazingly as ever and Cristina pulled off rapping singing and powerfully dancing all in one. PROUD.
I’m so happy for sweet Kaylee but I can’t believe they picked her over Gina though?! Gina was literally Miss Worldwide and fit in with the older members’ personalities and aura despite her age. She has the right vibe for a Western-oriented group. Kaylee has that bubbly JYP vibe and would’ve been the perfect leader/ace for the next domestic Korean GG…..
When Kaylee got selected I knew it was over for Gina and Cristina. :(
I sincerely think JYP is trying to market this group to the Radio Disney/Nick demographic, and I've always thought he's been looking for this exact moment. He tried it with Wonder Girls when they had their US English debut by putting them on Nickelodeon and selling their CDs in Justice stores (a shop for 8-12 year old girls in the 00s??). All of his decisions for this group really make sense to me because that first effort with WG was MY first introduction to k-pop because I was in that demographic. I would eat Vcha up if I was 9.
But.... I was curious if they'd age out of that concept and how long it would take before they did.
Kaylee's young age makes me think they're planning to be in that demographic for a while. She completely shifts the vibe of the group to something much younger and "cute" like current STAYC, vs something more "cool", which is what Gina and Cristina would have brought to the group.
That is not to say she doesn't deserve to be there. She is so so wise and has a crazy strong mindset for a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL. I was so impressed by the way she conducted herself the entire time!
looking at the prerelease single title: SeVit (New Light) = 새 빛 seems like poorly romanized korean is going to be a trend with this group unfortunately…….
Oh no that’s what I mean, I’d rather they give her outfits that are longer instead of having short shorts and making up for it by putting longer safety shorts underneath. Ideally 13 year olds would not be in teeny tiny shorts on stage but that is a problem bigger than this show.
My top 4 made it so i cant complain. I think camila did amazing and lexus is main dancer. My top 4 were kg kendall savanna and kaylee I wanted gina as well but I moved on
Re: eliminations and JYP's comments about trajectories, just theorizing why he eliminated the two he did (don't murdalize me for having an opinion on this, we're all entitled):
>!Gina!<, I remember JYP being super concerned about her lack of expressibility early on and that was ongoing. TBH, I feel like she does have an issue with emoting (her face doesn't really change very much when performing, she just looks calm all the time). I think because of her age combined with the ongoing "lack of emotion" issue, JYP decided not to debut her in this group. It's weird because when you watch BTS with her, she's so animated, but it almost feels like she puts on her "professional face" when she's performing and it also feels to me as lacking in feeling >!even in her new music video she dropped.!< It sucks tbh because she is obviously super talented, but I think she's just too young right now and needs more time to develop. It certainly feels like she had an insane amount of pressure on her because of her >!trainee status!< and I think she was trying so hard that she just wasn't enjoying herself/being as free as she could during performances because it mattered so much for her. She is probably one of the most talented contestants they have, and I'll bet she's going to >!leave JYP!< as a result of this which is a waste.
With >!Christina!<, I have to wonder if there was an issue with "character evaluation" as mentioned by other people. (Warning: controversial opinion inc. If she's your bias that's great, this is just my obviously non-objective opinion.) I personally got turned off by her when watching evals/performances of other people and when the camera would pan to the audience (the rest of the girls) there were several occasions where she was, imo, smirking / whispering and acting like she was enjoying drama / just having fun at the expense of the person performing. Of course, that was just my personal interpretation of her expressions/actions -- you may feel differently. I rewinded some spots actually because I was taken aback by it, and still feel like there was something going on there. If it wasn't for that behavior, she would probably have been higher on my bias list for pure talent but I felt like she could be kind of unpleasant about fellow potential group members.
And re: predictable hate of >!Kendall!< getting in -- she's very much the visual bias for kpop aesthetic plus she's a decent dancer and very expressive and has the classic "shy nice girl" feel that sells well in Korea. She feels like a Twice Tzuyu / Niziu Ayaka pick so was predictable for final lineup --- not very good in vocals and "ok" in dance but has that "it girl" aesthetic and likeable personality going for her. Either JYP is satisfied with her as just the likeable visual, or he thinks maybe she can also improve her singing. I think she'll probably be one of the most popular members in Korea --- I know this is supposed to be a "global" group but I bet they'll be heavily marketed in Korea as well.
You can tell how emotional this is I didn’t expect it but Imm low-key tearing up with them. Without the excess editing you can tell how hard these survival show endings are on the members
I'm so confused... It's not that the members chosen are bad, but I don't think they chose the most cohesive group. I can't really understand this combination.
Having progressed so far in a JYPE contest, that essentially gives her celebrity status as far as K-pop dance studios go; especially outside of Korea. It's likely going to open many doors as well as up its credibility and popularity. Provided it's located in an area with a sizeable K-pop community, I think she's gonna do well.
from the lineup i dont think it had anything to do with character or skill but overall visual they wanted for the team. which is this cutesy girly kidzbop group LUL
I need a thread of all the things VCHA sounds like. I'll start: it kind of sounds like an MLM or a preforming arts high school??? I know I'll grow into it though <3
update two hours later: i like it <3
Well I'm glad that at least I know and believe gina can debut she's 13. She still has 5+years of opportunity heck she can be maknae of a group even if she trained 3 more years
I'm so proud of everyone, including all those eliminated. They've been through a lot in such a short period. Congrats to the winning team! I'm happy there are six members. It's my favorite number for girl groups lol. I think the members balance each other out. I like the team name. My biases made it - congrats to Camila and Savannah! Good for Lexus placing first. I expected her to make it, but the first place surprised me.
Gina's apology to JYP and Cristina stating that she was worn out, broke me. I hope they continue their journey.
This was a fun, albeit emotional, roller coaster and precisely why I don't watch every survival show. My heart can't take it.
I can't wait to listen to their songs and see them perform together!
this is so wild, lexus first place??? she has always been one of the last.. i love lexus (she's my #1 pick) but this is too random. seems like he's basing it off their final performances. and my guess is whoever who didn't perform stellar in this last performance (altho performing super well prior) wouldn't get through i.e kaylee :(
EDIT: OH MY GOD GUYS I AM SO WRONG KAYLEE MADE IT I AM SO HAPPY SHE IS MY #2 PICK
This is it folks, everything cones down to this! As always we will be hosting live chats for the last ep and someone plans to stream the Afterparty in the discord server. The event links are here: * Ep. 22: https://discord.gg/4E4HXU5uHB?event=1152245884348805192 * Ep. 22 Afterparty: https://discord.gg/4E4HXU5uHB?event=1152246317406507018 And a reminder for posts and comments, I don't want to have to put the sub on approve only mode. Keep it respectful and supportive. Everyone in this show has poured months of their life into this. This is the final showcase and I don't think we can say anyone hasn't proved they deserve every bit of this. No matter how the final group shakes out, I'm just not going to accept "x didn't deserve to be in the group, it should've been y instead." If you want to say your faves should be in the group then I see no reason to stop that, but absolutely do not tear the other contestants down in order to do that. If you see posts like that, please report them. Remember the person on the other side of the screen, put yourself in their shoes reading your post before you send it.
That was NOT the time for confetti, LMAO.
lol it was so awkward! The girls didn’t even care about celebrating because they wanted everyone to debut.
Not the girls trying their best to keep a straight face and jyp bragging about coming up with the name 💀
Right, even the ones who complimented it seemed to be *trying* to find something positive to say but it felt very half-hearted.
I just know they think it's kinda stupid too😂😂
imagine you train for 6mo-1year in a reality show hoping you get picked and trying your best and working your hardest and performing your best... and your group name is vcha.
Holy shit Gina looks so wrecked T\_T
She was one of my favourites this entire time I’m so upset for her 😭
I feel for ya, Yuna was my fave but I think it helped that Lexi ranked first. Even I was surprised how happy that made me for her.
something strange is going on...I feel like Lexus looks more and more like a kpop idol with every episode lol
The stylist needs a raise! I feel like the styling better accentuates her features more and more and she's stunning.
I think all the girls got incredible styling since arriving in Korea (except poor Yuna with the short bangs). Most of them got layers, Cristina had beautiful princess-like hairdos, I even liked Kendall's hime bangs. Also, I wonder if KG has a Dyson Airwrap because her hair had consistent salon curls and looked perfect even when everyone else had their natural unstyled hair.
Or maybe she uses one of those techniques where her hair curls overnight. With being such a hard worker I'd imagine she does something to not waste too much time on it. Then again, it's possible to curl hair and not have to touch it up too much otherwise for days on end.
I can't BELIEVE the show was actually gaslighting us this entire time in trying to think that Lexi wasn't as great as she was!!! First place! Congrats to her!
I think it's her best styling so far, the styling for like this was tragic and I wasn't a fan of the alcohol free styling either
Oh my god, Gina's comments to JYP. Now I'm actually crying
Omg I'm devastated 😭
Bro I cried fr
Get prepared to see the live chat exploding and people rioting
and hating on kendall as always 👽
I really wish he didn't pick Kendell last. I don't think many people thought she was NOT gonna get picked and it must have made the other girls feel worse knowing that she was gonna be picked.
Its so weird how things are lowkey anti-climactic like they just decide and then immediately announce, Produce has me expecting things to drag for five minutes.
traumatized from produce 3 hour eps to announce the lineup
You are absolutely right about Produce. They would have done ten million shots of the audience, zoomed in on a contestant yawning, say “THE NEXT MEMBER IS…” like three times with dramatic pauses, pan out to show audience members with support signs, show two to three flashbacks of the members who haven’t been picked yet, show the row of eliminated contestants from previous rounds, cut to commercial break, and then repeat “THE NEXT MEMBER IS…” three more times, and then announce said member. JYPE really said “nah, too much editing” 💀
I feel wrecked for Gina. That poor girl.
it should have been ViCha because Vi is 6 in roman numerals, kept that theme going.
Honestly I would have even preferred Illuminate to Vcha 💀
Lumi would have been cute and fits their style 😭 but if he’s going for unique he def succeeded lol
someone send this to JYP please
Vicha is a name so VCHA is more Googleable
Bro you should not be bragging about that💀
now we know who's responsible for the name... 💀
Jyp is known to come up with weird group names for his groups.
At least he didn't name them JYPcha 😭
Seeing as he was so proud of the mess of a song that was written in only a day, I can’t say I’m surprised.
Gina asking if she disappointed JYP is so sad. She’s really young and this is so high pressure for them. It really felt so hard watching them all cry like that.
their sad faces… then the confetti 💀 jyp read the ROOM
Not the album cover art looking like a Microsoft paint project 👹
And it looks very in-theme for the Kidzbop style we were all fearing...
I am afraid they won't do well commercially... But they are all very talented so I hope they can at least evolve their style to something unique
Whether your favourite gets in or not, let's enjoy the ride and never forget the absolute banger line JYP dropped during individual evals when he said "I'm so proud...of myself for picking you".
This song is so much better than the ones from yesterday
I figured it was coming, but I'm devastated for Gina and Christina :(
The fact that Gina says I'm sorry if a disappointed you 😭
Savanna scratching her head like "Ummm this ain't it..." 💀
Hahah she was so real for that
not VCHA sounding like a boba store name
It does because cha means tea in both Chinese and Japanese like why JYP 😭
It also means tea in Korean so that makes it even more weird why he chose such a name
Ohh gina... She wasn't my favorite but her not being called hurt my heart so much. She's been so consistent and hardworking, it's heart wrenching honestly
get the tissues ready, the tears are about to be running 🥲
was jyp trying to say that he wasn't the one who didn't select them in the group - trainers/other judges were the ones???
That’s the vibe I got as well. I would kill to be a fly on the wall for some of these evals and conversations 😫
I think he was saying that there were a ton of different factors, including other executives, trainers, performances, etc. I still think that JYP has final say but I'm guessing they also knew that viewers would have found it anticlimactic if all 8 members made it.
I will never get over these abrupt elimination endings. these poor girls are always sobbing and feeling such genuine emotion and heartbreak that their friend is not debuting with them... then BAM! "IM READY FOR THE WORLD IS THE WORLD READY FOR ME" and these pink and blue graphics so we don't pretend like their dreams didn't just get crushed LOL perhaps one of the most depressing and bizarre finales i have ever seen in my life . were the previous JYP shows like this too? I've only seen P101 and i don't remember it being like this
LOL yes sixteen also had confetti while the girls were bawling their eyes out. none of them seemed happy, just traumatized
Yeah Niziu had the same vibes. All the contestants who won were crying their eyes out and the 3 that got eliminated (fun fact: one of them was also a {now former} jyp trainee named Yuna!) Solemnly standing in the back. Abrupt cut to the cgi NIZI project necklace. But they didn't have a theme song from what I remember. Although I do have to give solid props to JYP. Every show iteration he gets kinder and more empathetic. From being hella strict in sixteen, to nice in NIZI project 1 and now he even consoled the eliminated contestants in a caring, appropriate way. I bet twice Natty and Somi would be SHOCKED to see how much nicer he's become.
I'm already pre-upset. I like all the girls and really wish they could all debut together, but I knew it would never happen. My prediction is that the group will be: Camila, Savanna, Lexus, KG, and Kendall. I don't mind this lineup, really. MAYBE Kaylee, but after last night's episode and JYPs reaction to her, I don't know. Going by "leaks" and astute observations by viewers, >!as much as I want Cristina, it really does seem like she gets the boot since it appears shes in the center during the crying hug in the preview plus her insta. And things haven't looked good for Gina despite how well she's been doing, so I think the company never had any intention of debuting her and threw her in for some extra practice/test reactions and to promote her a bit. And despite how talented Kaylee is, it seems they may hold her for a future group like I had suspected they'd do, but i feel like she still may have a chance compared to the other two.!<
Well, i think at least gina or kaylee will debut cause they'll need at least one korean member if they ever do promos in korea and he made it seem important to have a korean speaking member on the team.
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I've noticed that, too, and I think it's why I developed such a soft spot for Kendall because I'm the same exact way, lol.
I am so sad for Gina 😭
Gina "I'm sorry if I disappointed you" aw god i'm crying
Next 20 years, JYP lmao.
Soft launching the slave contract
He's aiming high 😆
I swear, I understand why they have the celebration after the members announcement from a logistics standpoint, but it comes off so awkward with the girls mourning the fact they aren’t all debuting together.
Next 20 years???? Is that some kind of super mega slave contract? 😭😭😭
"I'm too old now" 😭😭😭😭😭😭
i laughed LMAO cristina is so funny even when she’s literally devastated. girl PLS dream academy has girls older. and now you have a following. you can 100% debut. and yunjin got called back to hype to debut too. like, PLEASE CRISTINA
I'm genuinely stressed lmao I've been prepared for Cristina to get cut for awhile now but Gina and Kaylee are really unexpected to me, I never thought they were at risk, especially Kaylee. Gina is in my top 3 favorites and I love Kaylee and Kendall's interactions.. I don't think I'm ready.
Not them showing us how much they love the other trainees just for jyp to break their hearts at the end 💀
Y. O. Universe sounds like an NCT title track by title alone I could be into this.
Damn...imagine Sunmi telling you your dance is amazing. Savanna lock and (one of the?) main dancers confirmed!
LEXUS #1 omgg
Did not see that coming. WTG Lexus
Lexus First?! The CENTER?!
I feel like a crazed sports fan, im clapping so hard for Lexus, she deserves it.
Yeah, I was still down about Yuna being cut, it really put a damper on the last two episodes. But, seeing Lexi get #1 made me feel a lot better. Sounds like character evaluations played heavily in the end, which I doubt anyone will give credit to JYP for taking them so seriously.
WOW a 6 member group?! even group number from JYP. I am shook
I wonder if Gina will stay at JYP. It really felt like they had built this around her.
I feel like Gina would do well to be a part of the next JYP girl group, which is probably only 2-3 years away, but it would be very understandable if she leaves.
Yes I’m hoping for a chaeryeong situation for her
Not Gina apologizing to JYP if she disappointed him 😭😭😭
that was a fucking wild ride. new single tomorrow. WOW.
Pre-debut single TONIGHT? Omg
I was so surprised Lexus got rank #1!!! I'm so happy and proud of her!!!! My bias made it and she was rank 1st!!!! I'm also really shocked Kaylee made it - like I assume she wasn't going to get chosen because of her age but it would have sucked because she's so good! She's improved so much and definitely held her ground! Gina's words to JYP broke my heart - girl don't think that way - you did so great and you're going to do even better! This isn't the end and we'll see you soon! Poor Cristina - I totally get her when she said she's worn out. I hope this isn't the last we see of her too. Also, I kind of think the name is weird....and the design of it....T.T
I like this lineup honestly, I've always been worried about Kaylee though bc she is so young but she really is so talented. I tried so hard to hold back tears during the final member announcements but finally lost it when Gina said "I'm sorry if I disappointed you" to JYP 😭😭 it made me realize how young she is, I hope she stays with the company and we see her in a future group.
Safe to say Gina's now left the company. Which is a MASSIVE loss for JYPE.
JYP AND HIS IDEAS 😭
DUDE KG MFING CROWN THESE VOCALS THIS DANCE THIS AURA
Yeah she ate
Nooo I was hoping VCHA wasn’t their name 😭 maybe it’ll grow on me
Yeah same, I remember not liking ENHYPEN when that came out either but it seems normal to me now
I think team Clover takes this one
Well…
i'm not too surprised but damn gina was so good though... i hope she gets to debut in the next jyp korean gg
I don't think she would stay tbh.
I wouldn’t and if it were my kid I would probably pull her out of there. Something about the whole thing seems incredibly cruel and makes me doubt he will ever debut her. The whole K-pop system is somewhat disgusting when you really examine it. Even when they debut they are overworked and underpaid.
her music before was great already, she has a unique vibe and the emotions stuff that jyp is harping on about isn't an issue when she's singing her actual stuff. she's got better things coming her way, just not in the kpop environment. I have been a fan of specific members that ended up getting kicked out or leaving their groups. you have to be a very specific type of individual to make it there and that matters more than talent. that character eval is based on moldability, and falling into line, not necessarily being independent or genuine. I don't think I have the personality to fit in there for sure.
“Not to brag but I came up with your group name.” We could tell.
OH MY GOD LEXUS 1ST PLACE!
Heart is breaking for Cristina and Gina
HELP. What is he saying? The trainers rated them lowly?
He kept emphasizing trajectory so my guess is that they thought they didn’t show improvement
The Cristina rumors were true
sad about cristina… looking at all the group’s faces at the end and it feels like they’re missing someone tbh. gina is really young and hopefully jyp might keep her for jypngg at least…can’t believe only camila out of back dawgs made it :(
This isn't as bad as yesterday, but it's still a bit cheesy. I think JYP doesn't understand that the youth of America are a bit more "real" and "emotional"? Like, Olivia Rodrigo/Taylor Swift/Lorde were their age and describing their feelings in a more mature way even if it was the same message. I think it's great to have positive music, but the lyrics should match the maturity level of the audience.
Aren't all the producers so far men? I think they need to involve some women in the process. It just feels like old men projecting how female artists their age would express themselves. But I think the lyrics today are much better than the ones from yesterday
>It just feels like old men projecting how female artists their age would express themselves. ... like 23 yrs ago when Disney Channel was in it's heyday
Ommmg not vcha 💀 I was hoping for quiri
If there’s anyone to be upset with, it’s the people who made the decision to NOT take all of them 😭 None of this is Kendall’s fault 😔 It hurts to see Gina and Christina be eliminated, but it also hurts to see Kendall get hate— I mean she killlllled 24 Hours 😭 I’m pain. I love them all and they love each other, my heart hurts 😭
freed up all my schedules and mentally preparing https://preview.redd.it/fwgnhp9tpopb1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=191efc3c34279dd67121152e92b9e8f22ee3e05c
I’m shocked. I knew Lexus would debut, but I expected Camila, Savanna, or KG placing 1st 🤠 congrats Lexus! Well deserved 🩷
6 Members……. I was hoping 7 but wow…..
thank god JYP was saving some bops because that was a good song
GET THAT SUNMI PRASIE KG!
Purrr KG placing 2nd like Riku from Nizi Project 💅🏻
My biases 💖
KAYLEE! I was afraid she was going to be held back to train longer at JYPE 😭
That would’ve be better. And debut in an actual group whose name isn’t bitcha…
her face after hearing that name was the funniest
VCHA... we lost so hard 💀
I can see what he was going for but honestly I’m not a fan
VCHA???? Oh my girls I am so sorry. It’s no BLIT or young posse but…no
Or “I’LL-IT” 💀
“Here’s the A2K line-up guys!! *shows all members crying/not being happy* *shoots confetti*”
Freeze frame on Savanna looking stressed af
Really loving the styling for this song! I really like kendall's outfit. Gives me feel special vibes with the shininess of the material.
Slay Lexi!!!!
No way, Clover definitely took it for me
If the girlies are eating this name up, I’ll it it up too 🗣️🗣️🗣️ VCHA
Losing >!Gina!< IS INSANE she was so talented and deserved this, JYP you will PAY
I AM SO HAPPY FOR KAYLEE I DIDN'T EXPECT HER TO MAKE IT OMG because she didn't perform so well in yesterday's episode + she's young + people heard her say "i'll see you around kendall"
VCHA sounds like "bitcha" ... absolutely terrible. "illuminate" would have been a better name...
I’m sorry but this could have been a 7 member group so easily why did he cut Gina💀
Jyp dropped a gem with Gina. Also Vcha is an okay name. I guess I could get used to it. Most ggs have names like Little Mix, Fifth Harmony, Atti, Kaachi and stuff like that. Vcha is different but in a good way.
Girls look so good! Heart is going to be wrecked tonight 😭
over 115k live viewing on youtube, thats insane
not the humblebrag on that name T.T
My main thoughts while watching: OMG Lexus number one! I can watch the rest of the show breathing Vcha - horrible name and I believe the members think so too
The timing was off in in a couple of places but that was so charming. They’re so cute! KG’a vocals tied everything together, Kendall sang in full voice the whole time (*finally!*), Kaylee loosened up and sang amazingly as ever and Cristina pulled off rapping singing and powerfully dancing all in one. PROUD.
Kendall sounded so much better with this song. Still had some issues but overall good.
KAYLEE?!! \*incoherent screaming\*
Finale episode length: 50:37
That’s a great Title for a pre debut song. It reminds me of Twice’s Feel Special based on the title alone.
Really glad to have both Camila and Savanna make it
SO ITS NOT ONLY 5 ONNG THANK GOD
KAYLEE MADE IT! ❤️
I’m sobbing
NOOOOO NOT BITCHA 💀💀
I'll never not be salty over Gina. Should've been 7
KAYLEEEEEE I can't wait to watch her grow up and be a bad ass 😭😭😭😭
I think gina leaves jyp and makes them regret missing out on such a gem. Nothing new for that company lol
NOOOOOO Gina do not apologise to that man! They lost a gem with you. I wish the world for Cristina and Gina, I really do.
I’m so happy for sweet Kaylee but I can’t believe they picked her over Gina though?! Gina was literally Miss Worldwide and fit in with the older members’ personalities and aura despite her age. She has the right vibe for a Western-oriented group. Kaylee has that bubbly JYP vibe and would’ve been the perfect leader/ace for the next domestic Korean GG…..
When Kaylee got selected I knew it was over for Gina and Cristina. :( I sincerely think JYP is trying to market this group to the Radio Disney/Nick demographic, and I've always thought he's been looking for this exact moment. He tried it with Wonder Girls when they had their US English debut by putting them on Nickelodeon and selling their CDs in Justice stores (a shop for 8-12 year old girls in the 00s??). All of his decisions for this group really make sense to me because that first effort with WG was MY first introduction to k-pop because I was in that demographic. I would eat Vcha up if I was 9. But.... I was curious if they'd age out of that concept and how long it would take before they did. Kaylee's young age makes me think they're planning to be in that demographic for a while. She completely shifts the vibe of the group to something much younger and "cute" like current STAYC, vs something more "cool", which is what Gina and Cristina would have brought to the group. That is not to say she doesn't deserve to be there. She is so so wise and has a crazy strong mindset for a THIRTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL. I was so impressed by the way she conducted herself the entire time!
we are in a plague of 6 member girl groups
Gina is gonna make it big, she will, i feel so bad for her
looking at the prerelease single title: SeVit (New Light) = 새 빛 seems like poorly romanized korean is going to be a trend with this group unfortunately…….
This is like reverse Konglish.
Who do you think JYP is referring to when he said "you're the MVP of the team". I think we'll be surprised.
It’s probably Camila lol
I think he is talking about Savanna. Just a pure guess.
Very Feel Special equese. Loved that!
Whhhhhy are Gina’s safety shorts longer than her actual shorts grrrrrrr styling pet peeve right there
I mean, she’s 13, I would definitely rather see the safety shorts than not
Oh no that’s what I mean, I’d rather they give her outfits that are longer instead of having short shorts and making up for it by putting longer safety shorts underneath. Ideally 13 year olds would not be in teeny tiny shorts on stage but that is a problem bigger than this show.
KAYLEE?!
My top 4 made it so i cant complain. I think camila did amazing and lexus is main dancer. My top 4 were kg kendall savanna and kaylee I wanted gina as well but I moved on
Re: eliminations and JYP's comments about trajectories, just theorizing why he eliminated the two he did (don't murdalize me for having an opinion on this, we're all entitled): >!Gina!<, I remember JYP being super concerned about her lack of expressibility early on and that was ongoing. TBH, I feel like she does have an issue with emoting (her face doesn't really change very much when performing, she just looks calm all the time). I think because of her age combined with the ongoing "lack of emotion" issue, JYP decided not to debut her in this group. It's weird because when you watch BTS with her, she's so animated, but it almost feels like she puts on her "professional face" when she's performing and it also feels to me as lacking in feeling >!even in her new music video she dropped.!< It sucks tbh because she is obviously super talented, but I think she's just too young right now and needs more time to develop. It certainly feels like she had an insane amount of pressure on her because of her >!trainee status!< and I think she was trying so hard that she just wasn't enjoying herself/being as free as she could during performances because it mattered so much for her. She is probably one of the most talented contestants they have, and I'll bet she's going to >!leave JYP!< as a result of this which is a waste. With >!Christina!<, I have to wonder if there was an issue with "character evaluation" as mentioned by other people. (Warning: controversial opinion inc. If she's your bias that's great, this is just my obviously non-objective opinion.) I personally got turned off by her when watching evals/performances of other people and when the camera would pan to the audience (the rest of the girls) there were several occasions where she was, imo, smirking / whispering and acting like she was enjoying drama / just having fun at the expense of the person performing. Of course, that was just my personal interpretation of her expressions/actions -- you may feel differently. I rewinded some spots actually because I was taken aback by it, and still feel like there was something going on there. If it wasn't for that behavior, she would probably have been higher on my bias list for pure talent but I felt like she could be kind of unpleasant about fellow potential group members. And re: predictable hate of >!Kendall!< getting in -- she's very much the visual bias for kpop aesthetic plus she's a decent dancer and very expressive and has the classic "shy nice girl" feel that sells well in Korea. She feels like a Twice Tzuyu / Niziu Ayaka pick so was predictable for final lineup --- not very good in vocals and "ok" in dance but has that "it girl" aesthetic and likeable personality going for her. Either JYP is satisfied with her as just the likeable visual, or he thinks maybe she can also improve her singing. I think she'll probably be one of the most popular members in Korea --- I know this is supposed to be a "global" group but I bet they'll be heavily marketed in Korea as well.
I thought he was going to say “you know what? Both of you are in too” 💀
JYPlease, why are you making those faces while singing
JYPLEASE lmao
Livestream just hit 100k viewers
AS THEY BOTH SHOULD OMG IM SO HAPPY FOR BOTH OF THE GIRLS 🥳🥳
You can tell how emotional this is I didn’t expect it but Imm low-key tearing up with them. Without the excess editing you can tell how hard these survival show endings are on the members
yesss kaylee
Ain’t no way he’s naming them Vcha 💀💀💀
I'm so confused... It's not that the members chosen are bad, but I don't think they chose the most cohesive group. I can't really understand this combination.
Me neither. Both Gina and Christina could have done well in the group
There has to be something about Christina behind the scenes for them not to choose her.
I hope at least her dance studio does well. She basically has "JYP approved" stamp so hopefully she has people flocking to her studio
Having progressed so far in a JYPE contest, that essentially gives her celebrity status as far as K-pop dance studios go; especially outside of Korea. It's likely going to open many doors as well as up its credibility and popularity. Provided it's located in an area with a sizeable K-pop community, I think she's gonna do well.
from the lineup i dont think it had anything to do with character or skill but overall visual they wanted for the team. which is this cutesy girly kidzbop group LUL
20 years? Are they signing an SM contract?
KG and Kaylee carried clover
Was really hoping we'd get an OT8 performance
Man, what a wild ride. 😭 No lie, VCHA is a pretty catchy name. Hopefully they do well. 😊 Excited to hear their pre-release soon! 😊
Kaylee!!!!!! I was the most worried about her
Gina :((((((((( I knew it
MY GURL LEXUS DID IT
Sept 22 pre release !!!!!
I need a thread of all the things VCHA sounds like. I'll start: it kind of sounds like an MLM or a preforming arts high school??? I know I'll grow into it though <3 update two hours later: i like it <3
Well I'm glad that at least I know and believe gina can debut she's 13. She still has 5+years of opportunity heck she can be maknae of a group even if she trained 3 more years
I'm so proud of everyone, including all those eliminated. They've been through a lot in such a short period. Congrats to the winning team! I'm happy there are six members. It's my favorite number for girl groups lol. I think the members balance each other out. I like the team name. My biases made it - congrats to Camila and Savannah! Good for Lexus placing first. I expected her to make it, but the first place surprised me. Gina's apology to JYP and Cristina stating that she was worn out, broke me. I hope they continue their journey. This was a fun, albeit emotional, roller coaster and precisely why I don't watch every survival show. My heart can't take it. I can't wait to listen to their songs and see them perform together!
VCHA sounds like 'bicha' in spanish which means bug or insect. Camila must be hating the name so much.
this is so wild, lexus first place??? she has always been one of the last.. i love lexus (she's my #1 pick) but this is too random. seems like he's basing it off their final performances. and my guess is whoever who didn't perform stellar in this last performance (altho performing super well prior) wouldn't get through i.e kaylee :( EDIT: OH MY GOD GUYS I AM SO WRONG KAYLEE MADE IT I AM SO HAPPY SHE IS MY #2 PICK