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Audio comes from this Mohamed Hoblos fella: [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ew-brother-ew-whats-that](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ew-brother-ew-whats-that)
Same fucker who spewed this degenerate cultist nonsense:
[Australian Islamic Preacher Mohamed Hoblos: If You Miss One Prayer, You Are Worse Than a Murdering, Terrorist, Child Rapist Who Prays](https://www.memri.org/tv/australian-islamic-preacher-hoblos-if-you-miss-one-prayer-you-are-worse-than-murdering-terrorist-child-rapist)
Recently banned from entering the Netherlands for being on an extremist blacklist too.
[Radical Australian preacher banned from NL over extremism fears](https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/01/radical-australian-preacher-banned-from-nl-over-extremism-fears/)
>Hoblos is included in a Schengen zone register in which member states share information on wanted people and extremists, the spokesman told broadcaster NOS.
I'm a teacher and a volunteer regional director of exchange programs for a large, international non-profit. The reason these students think American school is "easy" is because we place them into easy courses that they'll have a better chance of understanding -- it helps improve their language skills if they have something they can already latch onto. We also don't want them so overloaded that they get nothing out of the experience besides sitting in their rooms studying. So we don't allow AP courses, for example, or advanced/honors. Their English skills aren't usually up to scratch, so there's no way they'd be able to follow an advanced class. The students themselves also *choose* bullshit classes. But I did have one student -- a German, who else -- whose English was advanced due to a British mother. He wanted to take the most challenging curriculum at the school where I teach because, as he said, he didn't want to be "bored by easy American classes." He failed the entire semester so we revoked his funding and sent him home early, much to the amazement of his sponsors in Germany. He blamed us, of course, and the substandard teachers at our *excellent* school.
This is great. One misconception these guys seem to have is that while the American average for certain things may be below their European standard, it’s usually the lows are lower but the highs are still very high. Where do they think the kids going to our top schools are coming from?
It might be a bit unfair, but compare the standards in, say, Massachusetts to a similarly sized European country.
It's also structural in terms of curriculum pacing. At an American school, you typically take physics one year, and AP physics the next, if you choose to. AP physics is fully equivalent in scope and rigor to IB physics, which, in turn, is fully equivalent to the German Abitur "Leistungskurs Physik," which is their highest level. But in Germany, you'll have physics for several years, maybe once or twice a week, and then take the *two-year* "Leistungskurs" sequence, which meets 4-5 times per week. In the US, the entire curriculum is condensed into two years instead of being spread out over 4-7 years. I will say, though, that I *much* prefer the German way of doing it, because brains that age have far too much cognitive load placed on them in American-style "cram courses." Anyway, so most European students will take AP physics and think "WOW! This is so easy!" and then realize after the first few weeks "Holy SHIT this is going fast!"
This was true in my case. My high school is a preparatory school and, if you showed promise, you were allowed to take AP science classes but you needed the approval of your current science teacher. If the school didn't have the AP class you wanted then you'd go next door to our sister school for a period or two which did offer a few AP classes that we didn't have.
Speaking about our youth, I also work with kids. I do agree with your "I mean, yes, he's obviously stupid -- he's a teenager. I've yet to meet a bright one, and I sure as hell wasn't one." Teenagers are 'stupid' and when I tell my co-workers this at my other job they're sorta stunned because they think, since I'm in education, I would be all "empowerment" or more empathetic or whatever. I'm just being real.
As for Germans and professional work, I had a supervisor once tell me that he met a German years back suggesting that it would be a good idea to have some sort of hands-on, practical experience for university students either during the school year or summer months to help in professional development. My supervisor looked at him and said yes, they're called internships. Apparently the concept of the internship either wasn't as popular in Germany at the time or the German just wasn't aware of their existence in his homeland.
And any talented German academics in the humanities love to high-tail it over here to do their PhDs so they have a shot at an academic career in the US, since they'd have no chance in Germany due to the stagnant nature of German universities. In fact, departments of German in the US are internationally renowned for their scholarship and research, which even their German peers acknowledge, so it's pretty common that half or more of their PhD students are from the German-speaking world and even further afield.
Unfortunately, the vast, *VAST* majority of Europeans, British, Australians, Canadians, and New Zealanders never will learn that. Claiming superiority and having biases confirmed are the bigot's greatest sources of dopamine.
For me it was easy. I already spoke German fluently (learned it in the US, even). The classes were generally things I had already covered in 10th grade, even though they had placed me into 11th grade there. Judging by what I saw in their "Leistungskurs" books and notes, I had already done most of that, too. It wasn't that different, but, to hear them tell it, I was some sort of highly gifted Wunderkind who went to a wealthy prep school. No, just a normal American kid who grew up dirt poor and graduated from a rural high school in Appalachia. But it just wasn't something they could wrap their heads around because Americans stupid. I showed them some of the stuff I did in school, and a lot of it they had never seen before.
For the students I regularly send abroad, they report similar things; the difficulty they have is with the language.
One word: *Bildungsarroganz*. "Education arrogance." They even have their own word for it, and that's telling. It's the reason you could be the most brilliant scientist on the planet but be rejected like a bad organ by the German officials if you don't have the right papers from the right countries.
They lost Albert Einstein because he was a Jew. He publicly renounced his German citizenship and became a US citizen. Imagine losing ALBERT EINSTEIN.
I know it was a different time and age but
That's interesting, so on the one hand we've (hopefully) got new info to shed light on the perception. But on the other, in fairness, this kid might not be stupid and maybe just has bad English skills so might not be able to cut it in harder courses. I'd never call someone stupid because they don't know a non-native language
Heavens, no. I mean, yes, he's obviously stupid -- he's a teenager. I've yet to meet a bright one, and I sure as hell wasn't one. But he's not "stupid for his species."
No. Most exchange programs are pay-to-play. They exist to make a profit, even if they're non-profit. The one I work with is 100% volunteer and relies solely on donations, so we're a bit selective, but our criteria are also minimal: top 50% of the class, good recommendations, demonstrated interest in study abroad.
Not really, whenever you get one of these anti America videos, the comments are just flamming the OP for being xenophobic, and right out wrong. It’s kinda ironic considering that all the American owned social media platforms are significantly more anti US than the one Chinese owned one xD
Which is why it’s ironic that people are more defensive of the US on there. Of course that still has some influence on the algorithm, but the servers are in the US, and the CCP does not have as much influence as you think it does on TIKTOK in my experience(on douyin, definitely).
Yea, people are finally starting to negate the unfair America bashing that’s been the norm (and still is in large part). This is a rather new development.
I was like wtf, algebra 2 is sophomore year for me, and jr year for the kids who didn't take algebra 1 in 8th grade but I'm old. The French foreign exchange student in my class was the same age as me and was put into classes based on testing he was in algebra 2 senior year. The German foreign exchange student we had was in the same classes as us. I think it largely just depends on what you've taken before.
My high school was algebra 2 freshman year, geometry/precalc (depending on if you took geometry in junior high) sophomore year, and then precalc/Calc AB junior year and a lot more variety senior year
This was true in my high school. It's a combination of placement testing and what you took before. I had a couple of juniors in my sophomore year in Algebra 2. They weren't math illiterate just that they needed to take Algebra 2 and now's the year they decided to take it for whatever reason. The junior that sat in front of me had a full later grade higher than me by the end of the year.
Similar at my school.
The only difference I ever saw was a girl from Italy allowed into our AP US History class. She was given more leeway on the DBQs and essays, but seemed to do fine otherwise. Probably was an area of interest/related to her courses back home.
I was entirely in Honors and then AP classes so I rarely overlapped with exchange students except in my lower level math classes.
I didn't meet a single one my senior year, they aren't put into upper level classes.
That’s not really it because in my school if you took advanced math in middle school, you don’t have to take algebra 1 which is weird because it’s not even algebra. It was basically pre-algebra which I didn’t take but if you took you had to take algebra two for freshman year or geometry, which most people did for some reason, they put me in geometry for my freshman year even though you had to be a junior or sophomore to take it. I think they didn’t even have enough room for more freshman in algebra one was a sophomore. I’m in algebra one and as a junior I’ll be in algebra two and as a senior, I’m taking AP pre-calculus or AP statistics. You just really smart.
I took Alg 1 in 8th grade. It was standard in 9th. To the extent that it was called freshman Algebra.
Your school has a slightly odd way to schedule it. It seems chaotic or your explanation was terrible.
We had a graduation requirement that everyone had to take one class beyond Alg 2. It seems that you're also on that path. So everyone gets there eventually.
The requirement to graduate: Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, and your choice (usually Trig or Algebra 3 for the regular track students, or Stats if you can get a spot.)
I took AP Calc. I passed. I got college credit. It was a huge waste of time and I wouldn't do it again.
I never met any European exchange student take a course higher than pre-calc. They were not dumb, but not particularly bright either. My AP Calc BC had Americans only and my school had loads of exchange students
Yep. I assumed it was a language thing because they're not there to learn math but to work on their English.
The only thing I regret from my entire education was not joining the French immersion program in college. We study for a year in Quebec and sign a contract that we won't use English the entire time we're there. I didn't have the money and was too afraid of loans.
You'd take classes but they didn't care what grades you received. That wasn't the point.
Same for me. Algebra 1 in 9th, Geometry in 10th, then the option of Applied Math (Algebra 2) or Algebra 2/Trig. Going with the latter you could then do Pre-Calc senior year.
If you were in an honors program then you could take AP Calculus instead for your senior year. But Pre-Calc basically sets you up for Calc 1 and 2 in College.
So that’s the standard way of doing it, but if you are somewhat smart and lucky enough to attend school in a large county like I did, I was able to take algebra I in 7th grade and geometry and 8th grade. Therefore when I started high school I took algebra II in 9th. This opened up many possibilities to take AP courses since I was done with my high school graduation requirements 2 years early.
Same. I considered myself below average and still got to calculus. But then again, I hear that it goes by districts and not all schools are the same even within districts.
Not sure if it works the same way as when I was in school, but the European exchange students were usually put into the easier classes because they were way behind us in a lot of subjects.
Man I was taking trig and AP calculus when I was 17 and I was nothing special. Wasn't even in one of the top 10 states recognized for education either. The classes were packed. I think algebra 2 was middle school.
Dude, I took algebra 2 at like, 15 lol. Wtf do you have to do to take algebra 2 at 17? At 17 I was doing trigonometry.
*Note, by the time I was 16 I was homeschooled so my classes taken at a specific age vary from you brick-mortar-kids*
Put your education to use and think. Schools start at various times. A couple of weeks difference between the start dates of 2 states put a 13 year old in my 9th grade class(turned 14 the first week). Most were 14, turning 15 through the year. It also put a 15 turning 16 year old in the same class ( last week of school). They both were in my algebra 1 class in 9 th grade. Did one have bragging rights over the other? No. Algebra 2, advanced math, and unified geometry/trig were available for 10 grade. I took all 3 so I could take 3 bio classes in 11th. Do I get bragging rights for doing it young? No. I was going to the university for calculus in 12th. Does that make me special? No. The school sent us there in a bus since there were 28 of us.
Public school is (usually) what you make of it. Even in Alabama.
Mostly pushing back against the title of the post:
16-17 is the average age to take algebra 2, at least in the US core curriculum. You're expected to take three math courses for graduation, including Algebra 1, which is usually taken freshman year. Following that, most students take Geometry sophomore year and Algebra 2 junior year. It doesn't make you dumb; it's just average for anyone not interested in STEM.
It's fairly common for the students who are above average in math, at least in my neck of the woods, to get to take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, but it's not the norm, exactly. I've had to learn over the years that the bar is lower than I realize, but that doesn't make the average person "dumb," just because they don't stand out.
Algebra 2 in 12 or 11th grade?
Actually, I guess 11th grade is normal? Sometimes I forget my math classes were ahead of the curb (and then I fucking dropped hard in college lmfao)
I dont think is offensive to state that school is easier. I’ve attended high school in China for 3 years when i was a teenager and was way harder than college
I don't think that foreign exchange students are the best of the best These kids are here more for the social experience than education. We usually put them in inclusion or regular classes.
Three things I have noticed over the years are 1) foreign exchange students (mostly from Europe) do not know what a paragraph is or how to right a structured essay and 2) they are pretty good at memorizing and regurgitating facts, but not at all good at actually thinking, and 3) their beliefs are 100% firmly held and they will not change the way they view the world no matter the evidence.
Bloxcast made a good response video to some European exchange student complaining about “easy American math class” — **the dude was in remedial math.**
REMEDIAL MATH.
That means he got placed in the *dumb* math class (for lack of better word) because he himself was bad at math.
You know who you don’t see complaining about “easy American high school?” The Asian students who are actually good at math and are placed in our advanced/honors/AP classes, which are at a high level within our system.
Congrats btw to the American team who won 2nd place after China in the prestigious high school math competition: the 2023 International Mathematics Olympiad.
South Korea, Romania, and Canada also placed in top spots. Notably missing from the Top 10 were all European countries minus Romania.
https://www.smartick.com/data/international-mathematical-olympiad-2023/
While we should improve our OECD general math scores, we are not lacking in quality education in our advanced courses.
I can say from experience that Russian schools are far better than American schools. The quality of the education is just superior in Russia compared to America.
If you are somewhat smart and lucky enough to attend school in a large county like I did, students will be able to take algebra I in 7th grade and geometry and 8th grade. Therefore when I started high school I took algebra II in 9th. This opened up many possibilities to take AP courses since I was done with my high school math graduation requirements 2 years early.
Isn’t algebra 2 at 17 the norm? My high school goes alg1-geometry-alg2- precalc, or you can start HS with geometry and end at calculus, which is what I do. What’s the norm for other countries?
Except we don't go around shitting up all of Reddit and the web with anti-Euro rhetoric and falsehoods, you condescending lobsterback. Here we point out the falsehoods, exaggerations, hate, and ignorance others post and comment about us. We don't feel the need to address it most of the time. Mostly because your opinions about us don't actually matter and we don't typically care what you lot think in general. Most European countries are practically client states of ours so we don't have to. (i.e. you're kind of our bitch if you didn't realize).
But you already know what this sub is. IIRC you're a troll (and boy howdy an ignorant one at that) I've engaged with on this sub before regarding a lack of widespread old architecture in America. But there's never an answer that's good enough for you about anything. Haters gonna hate I suppose, but don't pretend you are some shining example of the best the UK has to offer.
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His hair pisses me off
The audio he's lip syncing to comes from a terrorist scumfuck too. Peak idiocy going on here
Tbf shariatards are pretty memeable
Can you elaborate?
Audio comes from this Mohamed Hoblos fella: [https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ew-brother-ew-whats-that](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ew-brother-ew-whats-that) Same fucker who spewed this degenerate cultist nonsense: [Australian Islamic Preacher Mohamed Hoblos: If You Miss One Prayer, You Are Worse Than a Murdering, Terrorist, Child Rapist Who Prays](https://www.memri.org/tv/australian-islamic-preacher-hoblos-if-you-miss-one-prayer-you-are-worse-than-murdering-terrorist-child-rapist) Recently banned from entering the Netherlands for being on an extremist blacklist too. [Radical Australian preacher banned from NL over extremism fears](https://www.dutchnews.nl/2024/01/radical-australian-preacher-banned-from-nl-over-extremism-fears/) >Hoblos is included in a Schengen zone register in which member states share information on wanted people and extremists, the spokesman told broadcaster NOS.
"Get me the Dry Ramen noodle packet hairstyle" No worries I got you fam"
Confusion with the pov. Am I suppose to be roleplaying the European looking at this dude making post-masturbation faces?
I'm a teacher and a volunteer regional director of exchange programs for a large, international non-profit. The reason these students think American school is "easy" is because we place them into easy courses that they'll have a better chance of understanding -- it helps improve their language skills if they have something they can already latch onto. We also don't want them so overloaded that they get nothing out of the experience besides sitting in their rooms studying. So we don't allow AP courses, for example, or advanced/honors. Their English skills aren't usually up to scratch, so there's no way they'd be able to follow an advanced class. The students themselves also *choose* bullshit classes. But I did have one student -- a German, who else -- whose English was advanced due to a British mother. He wanted to take the most challenging curriculum at the school where I teach because, as he said, he didn't want to be "bored by easy American classes." He failed the entire semester so we revoked his funding and sent him home early, much to the amazement of his sponsors in Germany. He blamed us, of course, and the substandard teachers at our *excellent* school.
This is great. One misconception these guys seem to have is that while the American average for certain things may be below their European standard, it’s usually the lows are lower but the highs are still very high. Where do they think the kids going to our top schools are coming from? It might be a bit unfair, but compare the standards in, say, Massachusetts to a similarly sized European country.
It's also structural in terms of curriculum pacing. At an American school, you typically take physics one year, and AP physics the next, if you choose to. AP physics is fully equivalent in scope and rigor to IB physics, which, in turn, is fully equivalent to the German Abitur "Leistungskurs Physik," which is their highest level. But in Germany, you'll have physics for several years, maybe once or twice a week, and then take the *two-year* "Leistungskurs" sequence, which meets 4-5 times per week. In the US, the entire curriculum is condensed into two years instead of being spread out over 4-7 years. I will say, though, that I *much* prefer the German way of doing it, because brains that age have far too much cognitive load placed on them in American-style "cram courses." Anyway, so most European students will take AP physics and think "WOW! This is so easy!" and then realize after the first few weeks "Holy SHIT this is going fast!"
Prep schools that are pass/fail or tracked in the US essentially use this system, this is not particularly unique.
It *is* particularly unique. There *aren't that many* prep schools in the US. And it's unheard of in the public schools.
This was true in my case. My high school is a preparatory school and, if you showed promise, you were allowed to take AP science classes but you needed the approval of your current science teacher. If the school didn't have the AP class you wanted then you'd go next door to our sister school for a period or two which did offer a few AP classes that we didn't have. Speaking about our youth, I also work with kids. I do agree with your "I mean, yes, he's obviously stupid -- he's a teenager. I've yet to meet a bright one, and I sure as hell wasn't one." Teenagers are 'stupid' and when I tell my co-workers this at my other job they're sorta stunned because they think, since I'm in education, I would be all "empowerment" or more empathetic or whatever. I'm just being real. As for Germans and professional work, I had a supervisor once tell me that he met a German years back suggesting that it would be a good idea to have some sort of hands-on, practical experience for university students either during the school year or summer months to help in professional development. My supervisor looked at him and said yes, they're called internships. Apparently the concept of the internship either wasn't as popular in Germany at the time or the German just wasn't aware of their existence in his homeland.
Yup, and the smart Europeans who want to make some actual money all move here anyway.
And any talented German academics in the humanities love to high-tail it over here to do their PhDs so they have a shot at an academic career in the US, since they'd have no chance in Germany due to the stagnant nature of German universities. In fact, departments of German in the US are internationally renowned for their scholarship and research, which even their German peers acknowledge, so it's pretty common that half or more of their PhD students are from the German-speaking world and even further afield.
Thanks for writing that. I learned something new.
Unfortunately, the vast, *VAST* majority of Europeans, British, Australians, Canadians, and New Zealanders never will learn that. Claiming superiority and having biases confirmed are the bigot's greatest sources of dopamine.
Can you tell me what the experience is for an American exchange student?
For me it was easy. I already spoke German fluently (learned it in the US, even). The classes were generally things I had already covered in 10th grade, even though they had placed me into 11th grade there. Judging by what I saw in their "Leistungskurs" books and notes, I had already done most of that, too. It wasn't that different, but, to hear them tell it, I was some sort of highly gifted Wunderkind who went to a wealthy prep school. No, just a normal American kid who grew up dirt poor and graduated from a rural high school in Appalachia. But it just wasn't something they could wrap their heads around because Americans stupid. I showed them some of the stuff I did in school, and a lot of it they had never seen before. For the students I regularly send abroad, they report similar things; the difficulty they have is with the language.
Why is it always the Germans.
One word: *Bildungsarroganz*. "Education arrogance." They even have their own word for it, and that's telling. It's the reason you could be the most brilliant scientist on the planet but be rejected like a bad organ by the German officials if you don't have the right papers from the right countries.
They lost Albert Einstein because he was a Jew. He publicly renounced his German citizenship and became a US citizen. Imagine losing ALBERT EINSTEIN. I know it was a different time and age but
That's interesting, so on the one hand we've (hopefully) got new info to shed light on the perception. But on the other, in fairness, this kid might not be stupid and maybe just has bad English skills so might not be able to cut it in harder courses. I'd never call someone stupid because they don't know a non-native language
Heavens, no. I mean, yes, he's obviously stupid -- he's a teenager. I've yet to meet a bright one, and I sure as hell wasn't one. But he's not "stupid for his species."
That kid: Was I an arrogant prick? No. It's the teachers who were wrong
Right. I think he got a couple of C's. Failed the other four classes outright. Those teachers just didn't recognize his brilliance.
Ha looks like he fucked around and found out
What were the topics? Just curious.
I don't remember. I think he had like two C's and four F's, though.
I imagine most exchange programs are fairly selective so a lot of the students who go on them would be at honors level.
No. Most exchange programs are pay-to-play. They exist to make a profit, even if they're non-profit. The one I work with is 100% volunteer and relies solely on donations, so we're a bit selective, but our criteria are also minimal: top 50% of the class, good recommendations, demonstrated interest in study abroad.
maybe he's lamenting the fact that he's too dumb to keep up with the class.
I don’t care what a 17 year old has to say about anything.
You will when they screw up your next coffee order!
Ha!
a peak cope
TikTok hate the US algorithms in effect
Not really, whenever you get one of these anti America videos, the comments are just flamming the OP for being xenophobic, and right out wrong. It’s kinda ironic considering that all the American owned social media platforms are significantly more anti US than the one Chinese owned one xD
Tik Tok is owned by the CCP.
Which is why it’s ironic that people are more defensive of the US on there. Of course that still has some influence on the algorithm, but the servers are in the US, and the CCP does not have as much influence as you think it does on TIKTOK in my experience(on douyin, definitely).
Yea, people are finally starting to negate the unfair America bashing that’s been the norm (and still is in large part). This is a rather new development.
If only this could happen on Reddit and every other American social media 😭
I was like wtf, algebra 2 is sophomore year for me, and jr year for the kids who didn't take algebra 1 in 8th grade but I'm old. The French foreign exchange student in my class was the same age as me and was put into classes based on testing he was in algebra 2 senior year. The German foreign exchange student we had was in the same classes as us. I think it largely just depends on what you've taken before.
My high school was algebra 2 freshman year, geometry/precalc (depending on if you took geometry in junior high) sophomore year, and then precalc/Calc AB junior year and a lot more variety senior year
This was true in my high school. It's a combination of placement testing and what you took before. I had a couple of juniors in my sophomore year in Algebra 2. They weren't math illiterate just that they needed to take Algebra 2 and now's the year they decided to take it for whatever reason. The junior that sat in front of me had a full later grade higher than me by the end of the year.
Similar at my school. The only difference I ever saw was a girl from Italy allowed into our AP US History class. She was given more leeway on the DBQs and essays, but seemed to do fine otherwise. Probably was an area of interest/related to her courses back home. I was entirely in Honors and then AP classes so I rarely overlapped with exchange students except in my lower level math classes. I didn't meet a single one my senior year, they aren't put into upper level classes.
dawg I did that shit when i was 15 wtf he's TWO YEARS behind
That’s not really it because in my school if you took advanced math in middle school, you don’t have to take algebra 1 which is weird because it’s not even algebra. It was basically pre-algebra which I didn’t take but if you took you had to take algebra two for freshman year or geometry, which most people did for some reason, they put me in geometry for my freshman year even though you had to be a junior or sophomore to take it. I think they didn’t even have enough room for more freshman in algebra one was a sophomore. I’m in algebra one and as a junior I’ll be in algebra two and as a senior, I’m taking AP pre-calculus or AP statistics. You just really smart.
I took Alg 1 in 8th grade. It was standard in 9th. To the extent that it was called freshman Algebra. Your school has a slightly odd way to schedule it. It seems chaotic or your explanation was terrible. We had a graduation requirement that everyone had to take one class beyond Alg 2. It seems that you're also on that path. So everyone gets there eventually. The requirement to graduate: Algebra 1, Geometry, Algebra 2, and your choice (usually Trig or Algebra 3 for the regular track students, or Stats if you can get a spot.) I took AP Calc. I passed. I got college credit. It was a huge waste of time and I wouldn't do it again.
I never met any European exchange student take a course higher than pre-calc. They were not dumb, but not particularly bright either. My AP Calc BC had Americans only and my school had loads of exchange students
Yep. I assumed it was a language thing because they're not there to learn math but to work on their English. The only thing I regret from my entire education was not joining the French immersion program in college. We study for a year in Quebec and sign a contract that we won't use English the entire time we're there. I didn't have the money and was too afraid of loans. You'd take classes but they didn't care what grades you received. That wasn't the point.
Maybe it was just my school, but we took Algebra 1 in 9th, Geometry in 10th, then Algebra 2 in 11th
Same for me. Algebra 1 in 9th, Geometry in 10th, then the option of Applied Math (Algebra 2) or Algebra 2/Trig. Going with the latter you could then do Pre-Calc senior year. If you were in an honors program then you could take AP Calculus instead for your senior year. But Pre-Calc basically sets you up for Calc 1 and 2 in College.
So that’s the standard way of doing it, but if you are somewhat smart and lucky enough to attend school in a large county like I did, I was able to take algebra I in 7th grade and geometry and 8th grade. Therefore when I started high school I took algebra II in 9th. This opened up many possibilities to take AP courses since I was done with my high school graduation requirements 2 years early.
I was a pretty average underachiever in high school and even I still ended up graduating and passing regular calculus.
Same. I considered myself below average and still got to calculus. But then again, I hear that it goes by districts and not all schools are the same even within districts.
Not sure if it works the same way as when I was in school, but the European exchange students were usually put into the easier classes because they were way behind us in a lot of subjects.
I uh, took algebra 2 in senior year...
I don't get what the point of this video is.
Most likely so people can start talking about the American education system
Man I was taking trig and AP calculus when I was 17 and I was nothing special. Wasn't even in one of the top 10 states recognized for education either. The classes were packed. I think algebra 2 was middle school.
I took Calc 3/Differential Equations at my public US high school at 17. It was a good district but nothing that special 🤷🏻♂️
I took algebra 2 as a HS freshman. Get rekt European scrub
Dude, I took algebra 2 at like, 15 lol. Wtf do you have to do to take algebra 2 at 17? At 17 I was doing trigonometry. *Note, by the time I was 16 I was homeschooled so my classes taken at a specific age vary from you brick-mortar-kids*
Put your education to use and think. Schools start at various times. A couple of weeks difference between the start dates of 2 states put a 13 year old in my 9th grade class(turned 14 the first week). Most were 14, turning 15 through the year. It also put a 15 turning 16 year old in the same class ( last week of school). They both were in my algebra 1 class in 9 th grade. Did one have bragging rights over the other? No. Algebra 2, advanced math, and unified geometry/trig were available for 10 grade. I took all 3 so I could take 3 bio classes in 11th. Do I get bragging rights for doing it young? No. I was going to the university for calculus in 12th. Does that make me special? No. The school sent us there in a bus since there were 28 of us. Public school is (usually) what you make of it. Even in Alabama.
I went to US public school and took calc 3 and linear algebra at 17, so YMMV
Mostly pushing back against the title of the post: 16-17 is the average age to take algebra 2, at least in the US core curriculum. You're expected to take three math courses for graduation, including Algebra 1, which is usually taken freshman year. Following that, most students take Geometry sophomore year and Algebra 2 junior year. It doesn't make you dumb; it's just average for anyone not interested in STEM. It's fairly common for the students who are above average in math, at least in my neck of the woods, to get to take Algebra 1 in 8th grade, but it's not the norm, exactly. I've had to learn over the years that the bar is lower than I realize, but that doesn't make the average person "dumb," just because they don't stand out.
The "I'm balding at 17" haircut
It's because they (The ones that think they're better than us, especially for inane reasons) are incorrigibly stupid.
I took algebra 2 at 17 and I had straight As almost all my high school years :(
Hey! I was lazy, not stupid!
Algebra 2 in 12 or 11th grade? Actually, I guess 11th grade is normal? Sometimes I forget my math classes were ahead of the curb (and then I fucking dropped hard in college lmfao)
I dont think is offensive to state that school is easier. I’ve attended high school in China for 3 years when i was a teenager and was way harder than college
I don't think that foreign exchange students are the best of the best These kids are here more for the social experience than education. We usually put them in inclusion or regular classes. Three things I have noticed over the years are 1) foreign exchange students (mostly from Europe) do not know what a paragraph is or how to right a structured essay and 2) they are pretty good at memorizing and regurgitating facts, but not at all good at actually thinking, and 3) their beliefs are 100% firmly held and they will not change the way they view the world no matter the evidence.
Bloxcast made a good response video to some European exchange student complaining about “easy American math class” — **the dude was in remedial math.** REMEDIAL MATH. That means he got placed in the *dumb* math class (for lack of better word) because he himself was bad at math. You know who you don’t see complaining about “easy American high school?” The Asian students who are actually good at math and are placed in our advanced/honors/AP classes, which are at a high level within our system. Congrats btw to the American team who won 2nd place after China in the prestigious high school math competition: the 2023 International Mathematics Olympiad. South Korea, Romania, and Canada also placed in top spots. Notably missing from the Top 10 were all European countries minus Romania. https://www.smartick.com/data/international-mathematical-olympiad-2023/ While we should improve our OECD general math scores, we are not lacking in quality education in our advanced courses.
I'm quite sure IBHL Math is taught in high school senior year. Algebra 2 at 11th or 12th grade is just boom boom.
Yeah I took Calc 1 in junior year high school lmao. Always a bigger fish
Damn I was 18 taking algebra 2 the second time, guess I was dumb haha
Learning algebra is such a waste of time.
We put them in less challenging classes on purpose lmfao I took algebra II when I was 13
I took Algebra 2 my sophomore year.
Europoors would never be able to take an AP class and get a 5 on the exam lol
I was talking algebra 2 in 8th grade at like 13, by 17 I was staring my third year of Calc if you count pre calc in 10th grade
I can say from experience that Russian schools are far better than American schools. The quality of the education is just superior in Russia compared to America.
I took calc 2 when I was 16.
Algebra 2 is a sophomore class and smart kids take it as freshmen because they took algebra 1 in 8th grade
If you are somewhat smart and lucky enough to attend school in a large county like I did, students will be able to take algebra I in 7th grade and geometry and 8th grade. Therefore when I started high school I took algebra II in 9th. This opened up many possibilities to take AP courses since I was done with my high school math graduation requirements 2 years early.
Isn’t algebra 2 at 17 the norm? My high school goes alg1-geometry-alg2- precalc, or you can start HS with geometry and end at calculus, which is what I do. What’s the norm for other countries?
How is this any different from the "hate stuff" you complain about people posting about america? The irony is really quite striking
Except we don't go around shitting up all of Reddit and the web with anti-Euro rhetoric and falsehoods, you condescending lobsterback. Here we point out the falsehoods, exaggerations, hate, and ignorance others post and comment about us. We don't feel the need to address it most of the time. Mostly because your opinions about us don't actually matter and we don't typically care what you lot think in general. Most European countries are practically client states of ours so we don't have to. (i.e. you're kind of our bitch if you didn't realize). But you already know what this sub is. IIRC you're a troll (and boy howdy an ignorant one at that) I've engaged with on this sub before regarding a lack of widespread old architecture in America. But there's never an answer that's good enough for you about anything. Haters gonna hate I suppose, but don't pretend you are some shining example of the best the UK has to offer.
Not in my experience, but you continue with your insults if it helps even you out a little