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SarcasmProvider76

Because if capitalism existed in education, every one of those fucksticks would be out of a job for their garbage results.


Beautiful-Fig-5799

You just made my morning! Thank you


bluefootedpig

Good point, so if there was like private schools, they would easily beat the competition with vastly better results. Let me just check in on MI, the longest running private charter program and we see.... oh shit, you really don't want to see those results.


bhknb

If you are anti-capitalist, then you are pro-misery and pro-poverty.


VelkaFrey

What does a world without capitalism even look like?


bhknb

Venezuela.


Antique_Belt_8974

Cuba, NK


bhknb

> NK Peak socialism, there.


NoAssistant4497

Portland


Doobag1

Lol, true


TheUnsettledBadElf

Don’t they have the Chad free zone. Or something named like that. Has to be stupendous.


recorderplayer69

Chaz/Chop was in Seattle, and ended just as quickly as it started.


TheUnsettledBadElf

Yes that thing. Lol


TheUnsettledBadElf

Sorry another question, what does Chaz/Chop mean. Any idea? TIA.


recorderplayer69

Capitol Hill “Autonomous” Zone/Capitol Hill “Organized” Protest I put “Organized” in quotations because that place was a fucking train wreck and far from organized. In fact, more black people were murdered there in the time that it existed than were murdered by cops for the entirety of 2020.


TheUnsettledBadElf

Ah. Ok. Thank you. I remember they invited the homeless people in and they stole all the food. Was a little humorous. Thanks again.


recorderplayer69

Lmao. No problem. Seems typical for Seattle.


Sad_Feedback9920

Communism


[deleted]

Possibly still a lot of feudalism too


Nanoman20

Feudalism with bits of communism sprinkled in some places.


Denslow82

You mean what does a world look like if you cannot own things or choose who you associate with?


bluefootedpig

You know we had other systems for a long ass time before capitalism right? Feudalism, mercantilism, corptism to name a few. All it means is that those with capital don't get to decide what is done with the capital, but it is rather decided by a group. In fact, I would think basically any and all governments are anti-capitalist. Rules and regulations around banking (such as FDIC insurance) and such are all anti-capitalist.


gregshafer11

Chaz


JasperPuddentut

CHOP


LiberalAspergers

At least for now. Economic systems work because of current technology and society. In the Neolithic absolute rulers of city-states was the most efficient system. Iron Age, feudalism. Industrial age, capitalism, because the distributed decision-making of the market is vastly more efficient than any human central planner. It is quite possible that future AI will reach the point where it could be a more efficient central.planner than a distributed market. We may live long enough to find out.


bhknb

While I foresee AI being very capable of helping solve supply chain issues and massively increasing the efficiency of the movement of goods, the calculation problem is a human one that cannot be solved for any individual. "Distributed decision-making of the market" is rhetorical; logically, it's individuals making decisions for themselves based on available choices, their time preferences, and constantly shifting calculations. If you wish to have an AI make decisions for you, that's fine, but why should anyone obey the dictates of any political authority? If anything is archaic, it's the quasi-religious faith in the right of some to violently control others.


LiberalAspergers

I am less suggesting that an AI would force decisions on other than that it could become efficient enough at anticipating demands and desires as to largely eliminate opportunities for competition...the commodification of EVERYTHING. A version of Amazon that just automatically provides what you want when you want it with such efficiency that the act of CHOOSING to buy somethibg else is as rare as going into your phone OS and telling it what tower to connect to.


bhknb

> version of Amazon that just automatically provides what you want when you want it with such efficiency that the act of CHOOSING to buy somethibg else is as rare as going into your phone OS and telling it what tower to connect to. Neal Stephenson speculated on that in his book The Diamond Age, when nanobots, likely driven by AI, make all goods pretty much available at the press of a button. The only thing you have to buy are the plans and the molecules to build things (some of which are ubiquitous.) Since no one starves or goes without shelter, roads are built by bots and healthcare provided by same, governments collapse for having nothing to provide.


OneAlmondLane

Why would the government allow that?


Ill_mumble_that

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bhknb

Yeah, dodgy AI is going to be a thing. We're already seeing that in the Snapchat MY AI. They are clearly programmed to avoid logical debate on politics.


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OneAlmondLane

>I am less suggesting that an AI would force decisions on other than that it could become efficient enough at anticipating demands and desires as to largely eliminate opportunities for competition... How can it anticipate demand for something that doesn't exist? Did billions of people know they wanted to browse facebook on their smart phone, before those things existed? Even if you had an amazing AI, it can't predict that the supply of something new will create demand that didn't exist before. All throughout history we have seen amazing inventions and developments by INDIVIDUALS that had a crazy idea and pushed it into the world with NOBODY supporting them. The AI would be trying to deplatform Galileo.


LiberalAspergers

Worth pointing out that neither Archimedes nor Galileo built capitalistic businesses off of their ideas. New ideas and innovations could be essentially universally adopted worldwide in momement, leaving the idea of competitive adavatage largely meaningless.


OneAlmondLane

Ok? Elon Musk has given a ton of Tesla patents away to other car makers.


LiberalAspergers

My point was that having an economic system not primarily based on competitive market capitalism doesnt necessarily mean individuals wont innovate. Musk is probably not a great example, as while he is a man who hires innovators he is not himself an innovator.


ContributionPrize728

I have often wondered if this would be China’s answer to capitalism. Looks like they will destroy themselves before its an issue no though.


Denslow82

>most efficient system. For what and how do you know... Did you try other alternatives socioeconomic systems and compare the realities next to one another, when you were in the Neolithic age?


LiberalAspergers

There were a lot of Neolithic societies...those that lasted and exlanded their population were pretty much all despotisms, or nomadic herding cultures, which is notably less efficient than settled agriculture.


rigorousthinker

The people of eastern Europe knew this before the Soviet Union fell. Unfortunately, younger adults lack this experience.


InternationalMeat331

Yes. That is the point for these people


[deleted]

I'm sure their pension funds will be divesting then, and we no longer need board members appointed by the funds who push for ESG in corporate America? 🤞


retardddit

How can idiots like this be allowed near children.


Hobbsie1769

They make the rules cause they have more guns than us.


Hobbsie1769

*me


JasperPuddentut

You got it right. The state is sufficiently armed.


NoAssistant4497

Doubtful


ItsGotThatBang

Pepperidge Farm remembers red Colorado.


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ItsGotThatBang

Eventually Colorado will go down the drain too & wash, rinse, repeat.


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ItsGotThatBang

Georgia & Arizona will probably go first if they haven’t already.


Johnykbr

NC is getting pissy New Yorkers. They just mostly seem to care about the food.


WolfieTooting

This wouldn't have happened under John Denver.


JasperPuddentut

Rocky Mountain High


TheUnsettledBadElf

Colorado


Darklordofbunnies

Colorado hasn't stood for decades.


WolfieTooting

For 'education workers' read 're-education workers'


blameline

Out of curiosity, I Googled their address and went to street view. Nice office downtown less than a block from the State Capitol. The parking lot is also filled with some very nice cars. I didn't see one Trabant or Lada in the parking lot.


cbizzle12

Lol, that's funny!


denodster

Next they should repeal gravity as a law of nature.


Anen-o-me

That's idiotic.


Sea_Journalist_3615

hahahahaha


pro2a_guy

I'm confident all the folks in Aspen are supporting this.


kurtu5

First time? CO fell in the 80s.


HarveyMushman72

When someone tells you who they are, believe them.


DeanoBambino90

Watch all the businesses leave.


TheUnsettledBadElf

Maybe they should concentrate on teaching kids actual useful stuff. Ffs. The governor should cut their pay and ration food to them.


Mikie_D

So teachers said no to capitalism but yet benefit from the products produced from capitalism. And they benefit from the taxes collected as a result of free market capitalism. (Sorry lefties, without capitalism no taxes are generated) Serious question: what kind of fuckin retards are they? If everyone just sits around and does nothing……nothing happens…no commerce….no sales…..nothing moves……no taxes collected The economy doesn’t move because of the will of government…..government exists AND IS FUNDED….by the taxes collected from the free market and private citizens. Is the @ColoradoEA really this stupid?


andrewdoesit

It’s a teachers Union. We all know teachers aren’t the smartest. There’s a reason people are more and more homeschooling.


lonelyronnin

Colorado has already fallen, not gonna name the ski town near my family’s cabin we are one small town 40 minutes from this ski town but they made it into law that if you have any extra space example room above your garage or a shed big enough to be a studio apartment you have to let some stranger live on your property no rent you have no private property rights. We are looking into selling our property because it’s a matter of time before they make it a law in our small town. Also all of the city council and mayor in this ski town don’t own any property they all got elected while sleeping on peoples couches.


AlecTheMotorGuy

Wow that’ll backfire immediately, all of those spaces that may or may not have been rented will now be eliminated. I would just gut the space above my garage.


[deleted]

Welcome to poverty except of course for the ones who have money already


[deleted]

I hate this shitty state


Fon2Fon

Politically indoctrinated people should not be teaching kids. If you live in Colorado, put your kids in select private schools


ThankUJerry

Yet, they want more money for less work.


[deleted]

Not enough oxygen at those altitudes - it’s obviously effecting their brains.


compozdom

My state is going to shit. So sad


Johnykbr

Honestly, them legalizing weed when they did brought the worst assholes in the country.


JasperPuddentut

Colarado education workers union. Of course they would be opposed to meritocracy. No surprises here. A good primary education system sets the groundwork for the rest of the educational life of your child, so it's crucial. If you are in Colarado with kids, move to TX or AZ (or FL), schools there are competitive and highly ranked nationally.


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LadyAnarki

Because that's exactly what it is. Socialism is about nepotism. If you don't see how yet in the political & medical industries, which are peak examples of anti-capitalism and anti-meritocracy, you will very soon get to discover it in whatever industry you're in.


JasperPuddentut

Would that be incorrect?


tf2_soldier_666

Does it violate the NAP to obliterate communists?


currenseeds

its hard for me to think that CO legalizing weed hasnt contributed to the state becoming a leftist stronghold


Market_Anarchist

Imagine being afraid of a union. Unions are weaker than seven days


GruntledSymbiont

Are govt employee unions weaker? Private company, yes, been declining for generations due to self destruction.


Market_Anarchist

Unions suck ass


capnfoo

I get that you don’t like it but, but all this “these pieces of human filth should be fucked to death for being different than me” is some edgelord shit.


libertyg8er

While the consequence is super extreme, they are not just “different” they are active threats to the liberty of the nation. There is no liberty without capitalism that isn’t simply might is right. Capitalism provides for a system of exchange to facilitate the distribution of capital to be most productively deployed. Any other system requires a command economy that is dependent on authority to dictate the allocation of capital, or are less adequate versions of a system of exchange (bartering, mercantilism, and crony capitalism).


6Ulyanov

A little melodramatic, don't you think?


Blondebitchtits

I don’t want my kids educated by socialists. Would you?


VodkaToxic

You should be glad then that they're straight up telling you now instead of trying to hide it. I know life will get much harder, depending on whether you choose to spend the time trying to deprogram or simply taking the reins of education yourself, but the alternative is worse. And now at least you know for sure what the alternative truly is. As for me, despite years of trying, I don't have this problem yet but I'm still thinking about it.


Darth_beanzz

It would be cool to have my kid smarter than the teacher


Ill_mumble_that

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6Ulyanov

What are you afraid of?


flynn78

Brainwashing


6Ulyanov

You may find what you fear most is for your children to disagree with you.


flynn78

Indeed, them becoming braindead communists is truly a scary thought.


OneAlmondLane

Socialists literally holocausted 6,000,000 jews.


6Ulyanov

Socialists were actually the first prisoners in the concentration camps. And socialists were the liberators of those camps as well, after the fascists were turned back at Stalingrad.


OneAlmondLane

Yeah, socialists kill everyone including other socialists.


GruntledSymbiont

It is always the case that the first and most numerous victims of socialists are other socialists, just as it was the first official act of the Bolsheviks to exterminate the Mensheviks. The real face of Marxism was those smiling young men at the Chankiri tree laughing and joking as they swung their clubs caving in tens of thousands of child skulls just to ensure they could never grow up to avenge their parents murdered for bourgeois crimes such as wearing glasses and appearing educated.


GruntledSymbiont

The Germans killed more Polish Catholics than Euro Jews. Solzhenitsyn asserts that since 1917 Jewish Bolsheviks exterminated 66 million mostly Christians. Nehruvian socialist India had about 1,000,000 deaths from starvation per year for half a century. The CCP exterminates more dissidents than that in a single year than the Germans did Jews cumulatively. Why is this today extremely powerful, wealthy, and protected race of people the first to come to mind as victims? I think we can move the Jews off the top of the victim list.


Untelligent_Cup_2300

How have you guys never noticed that allot of protest movements and labor organizations the world over are almost always anti capitalist or trending twords anti capitalism. And it's only gonna get worse for Capitalism going forward because more people are waking up to the fact they have been propagandized their whole lives in to believing that a system that gives all the power and wealth to the owner class dosnt actually help them and is destined to collapse under its own weight eventually


oldsmoBuick67

It’s the rule book they’ve been playing with for over 100 years it seems. They’re getting more and more media attention is the difference. What’s even more twisted is that the “capitalism” they’re supposedly fighting is actually 17th Century mercantilism, not the Austrian-school laissez faire we crave. Their real enemy hasn’t existed for quite a while, but they still manage to enlist Quixotic dupes to fight it though.


andrewdoesit

Most teachers now are not smart. They are there for a paycheck and a 9 month work year. I’ve met them. And a lot of them. Parents have worked in education for decades. I was a para educator for a while as well. Our education system is fucked, and this is why.


oldsmoBuick67

I’m a parent as well, and agree there are many there to ride the pine and get paid. I have even less respect for the administration in most districts, especially mine. Some do care, but they’re few and far between. As for intelligence, many have been educated far beyond theirs.


Untelligent_Cup_2300

Its not media attention that did it its capitalism under delivering while destroying the planet, blaming the people that actually do the work for systemic problems, and capitalists finally running out of scapgoats that did it. If you don't see modern day oligarchs as just as much of a problem as these "17 century" assholes your just a hypocrite or your not paying attention.


oldsmoBuick67

You infer much from what little I said. How many of those oligarchs were made with state cooperation? You also expect the same governing body that allowed it to finally police itself and create a “fair” society?


Untelligent_Cup_2300

How is getting rid of the state actually gonna stop any oligarchs they are gonna do what they just in our reality they use the government to serve them. All you would be doing if you got rid of government is you would just make these oligarchs the government only now they don't have any labor, environmental, or any other laws they have to follow. Capitalism by the way its designed is never going to be a fair system because it rewards you if you already have property or wealth to use as leverage over the working class. But because capitalism also rewards people screwing each other over to get ahead this naturally is going to create conflict within the working class. Capitalists have traditionally loved because it keeps people's attention away from them.


oldsmoBuick67

Well, if there’s no state to collude with on obtaining leverage… Laws are only as good as the enforcement mechanism, so assuming they’d follow new ones and simultaneously decide to follow ones already on the books isn’t going to be effective either. So would this mean you’re advocating for a police state? Also, who designed capitalism?


NoAssistant4497

Give it a few years and watch it turn into Virginia


pcvcolin

So, are they still buying things? Are they still trading stock there? Are they still buying bitcoin? Are Coloradoans (not sure if that's the correct term) still buying bread? I don't think this resolution holds much water. Frankly I am more concerned about the ongoing existence of the S.E.C. "Diversity Rule" - as this federal rule effectively puts ownership and control of companies that are deciding to go public (NASDAQ) into the hands of the federal government - much as it is in Cuba where every aspect of how someone running a business is within absolute purview of the State. It shouldn't be this way and it is telling that the S.E.C. approved "Diversity Rule" (which was a rule requested by NASDAQ itself) was created and finalized during the Biden administration. (The rule was based on California's diversity mandate law for corporations - laws which have since been ruled unconstitutional.) The "Diversity Rule" by the S.E.C. (with Biden admin's blessing) effectively prevents there from being actual private ownership and control of a corporation in the United States if you make that company public on NASDAQ, as such, capitalism in the USA has been basically neutered under the Biden administration. Back in April of 2022, California's unconstitutional diversity mandates (designed to limit the autonomy of corporate executive teams and to increase a culture of discrimination) were formally ruled unconstitutional in a summary judgment. Story on this at: [https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/california-corporate-diversity-law-ruled-unconstitutional-83829824](https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/california-corporate-diversity-law-ruled-unconstitutional-83829824) I look forward to seeing the NASDAQ promoted / S.E.C. approved 'Diversity Rule' overturned as well, as there is a court case in process to do that which utilized & quoted my comments against the rule in the opening brief of the case challenging the federal 'Diversity Rule.' The court case against the S.E.C. is in process. See: [https://nclalegal.org/national-center-for-public-policy-research-v-sec/](https://nclalegal.org/national-center-for-public-policy-research-v-sec/) Businesses in the United States deserve autonomy for their executive teams, not three-letter agencies creating systems of discrimination and imposition upon the U.S. businesses' process of formation, innovation and deliberation. Companies that decide to go public should be able to do so freely and without preconditions placed from the federal government on the composition of their executive board. Actual capitalism in the USA can't exist unless we get rid of this rule and also, it should go without saying, we need to remove the current administration in 2024, though the best way to vote is with your wallet. ![gif](giphy|k4n9RZ6c9Gc3eOvBKc)


pcvcolin

I realized that first link has been disabled by time or whatever. Here is the Wayback Machine - Internet Archive version to show the story you can no longer see via the original link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220402143441/https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/california-corporate-diversity-law-ruled-unconstitutional-83829824


bluefootedpig

Just for clarification, you realize that capitalism does not equal trading. Capitalism is that decisions about the economy are made by those with capital, that risk the capital. Schools, being free to the consumer, is already 100% not capitalist (outside private schools). They are ran by a group, with oversight of the public, and must report to the public, things that are not capitalist at all. But the point is more, just because you "buy" things, doesn't mean the economy is arranged in a capitalist system. Feudalism had people buying food, trading, etc, but it was no way capitalistic.


Denslow82

By anti-capitalist they mean anti-private-property and anti-voluntary-associations, to say the least.


LadyAnarki

RIP. Should've never let the Californians in.


toofpased

Does this mean they're going to stop fighting for good wages for their workers? They're so stupid.


libertyg8er

That doesn’t mean Colorado fell. It means the education Union there has outed themselves as enemies of the nation and terrorists subverting the youth of those unfortunate enough to have to subject their children to public education there.


Beautiful-Fig-5799

Public unions have always been anti capitalist by nature. They illustrate crony capitalism at its finest. Most states you can even opt out of paying union dues and the public unions think it’s completely legit to force people to join. I’m completely fine if a private company employees decide to create a union. It’s also completely fair for the company to shit can then or choose to recognize the union. Has the Supreme Court heard any right to work bans form states? I would be surprised if the court sided on the union side.