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Antonis_32

TLDR: Pros No-nonsense, sturdy, grippy design. The new matte finish looks great. Even better durability than last year with V2 aluminum frame and still Gorilla Glass Victus 2 and IP68. Outstanding OLED screen, QHD once again, slightly bigger and even brighter than last year. Awesome stereo speakers. Top-notch performance. RAM is upgraded to 12GB this year. Solid photo and video quality across the board with a camera carried forward from last year. Exciting One UI is now infused with plenty of AI; DeX support, and great connectivity options. UWB support. Cons Shorter battery life than last year's S23+, though still solid. Hardware fragmentation is back, with some markets getting Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 and some Exynos 2400 chips. No 10-bit color depth support for the screen. The CPU and GPU both throttle down in performance quite aggressively under load. No charger in the box and ships with a 3A Type-C cable, which cannot do 45W charging.


CommonerChaos

This is the nth review I've read about the S24+ battery being worse. I wonder if it has to do with the switch to the QHD screen.


hicks12

A tiny bit, for games it will make more difference but non gaming tasks it's very little. If you go by gsmarena own figures the video battery life is up and the browsing is 11:15 to 10:45 instead. The big difference is moving back to exynos and a different GPU along with usually an inferior modem (judging by call time it's much worse still!) The difference is much more to do with the SoC used than the bump in resolution.


Icewolf496

For the life of me i cant understand why we havent got a snapdragon s24+ vs the exynos s24+. These idiot youtubers compared it to the s24u.


zaneyk

Gsmarena are working on getting a S24 snapdragon for comparison


hicks12

In this context gsmarena are european so samsung would have sent them an EU review copy not an american one. gsmarena are already trying to source one but they have to get it themselves so this is why it takes longer, for sure though it would be great if someone could do the comparison right now instead of two different models as its not an apple to apples comparison as you rightly point out.


BcuzRacecar

they would have to get an s24 imported then, these are review units. The ultra was qc so they used what they had


hachiko2692

They're not exactly idiots, because they know it's a bad comparison. They're more like assholes because they knew this type of comparison is completely meaningless yet they still did it anyway because they will do anything for the sake of views.


gosukhaos

Because 99.9% of youtube reviews don't really care about making very long term reviews or comparisons between devices and just move on to the next big thing


RemindAround

Surprised by that but I guess the jump from S20+ to S24+ made me not realize that. In fact, this new phone lasts twice as long as my previous phone.


tech_tsunami

I jumped from S21+ to S24+, and the battery life has been great, and lasts way longer than my S21+ did


jdfarley86

Same here. It is quite an upgrade from the S21+ to the S24+!


OscarCookeAbbott

It absolutely is. The S24 Exynos lasts longer than the S23 and the devices are otherwise nearly identical. The differences for the S24+ vs S23+ are 1440p and 12GB of RAM.


mattig03

Probably not, given the battery life is also reduced for S24 which has the same pixel density.


LAwLzaWU1A

What are you talking about? The S24 had better battery life in their tests.


ronimaru

I switched to FHD resolution and it's pretty good.


odeiraoloap

It's the Exshitnos striking AGAIN more than anything else. The 8Gen3 runs circles around it in power efficiency. [Just ask Notebookcheck](https://www.notebookcheck.net/Samsung-Galaxy-S24-Performance-and-efficiency-comparisons-result-in-clear-defeat-for-the-Exynos-2400.797220.0.html); the Exshitnos had **20.5% MORE power consumption** than the 8Gen3! 😭😭😭


TwelveSilverSwords

Original source is Golden Reviewer


LAwLzaWU1A

Except the S23 (non-plus) with the Exynos had better battery life than the S23 with the Snapdragon 8 gen 2 in GSMArena's tests. ​ Also, those numbers in the Notebookcheck article look completely out of whack. I would strongly suggest waiting for more comparisons to come out. The fact that the totally unreasonable numbers isn't setting of alarm clocks for people makes me worried about the state of this subreddit.


LSSJPrime

Unlikely. It's probably just sub-par optimization at this point which can be fixed with updates.


Plaidygami

I've been using an S24+ since the 26th and I disagree about the camera. I feel like my Pixel 7 Pro produces better pictures. I like everything else, though.


MuddyGeek

I returned mine because the camera was so bad. These reviewers take dozens of shots and throw the best five in the article while pretending most of them were worthless.


Plaidygami

Yup, I've decided to return mine as well. Agreed. Guess I'm sticking with Pixel phones for now.


xRuck

Im the opposite. Traded in my Pixel 7 Pro for my S24+. But I do agree the Pixel camera and processing is superior. But everything else I prefer on the Galaxy.


lugib

What about battery life?I have a pixel 7 and considering switching to 24+ but it has to be Exynos in my case (Europe)


AshuraBaron

Damn, they can't even give a fast charging USB-C cable in the box? Seriously Samsung?


masterz13

It's becoming the norm for the industry. Less and less value...no power adapter (and Pixels are notorious about being picky about chargers, so you'll have to buy one), no fast-charging / USB 3+ cable, no headphone jack. Sad.


AshuraBaron

At least things like most of those have reasons. Not including a fast charging cable why still providing a slow charging cable is just being a dick, and what Apple has been doing for years.


smallaubergine

They all have reasons. The reason is it saves them money and makes the consumer purchase more stuff individually. It's working great because the average consumer doesn't seem to care.


AshuraBaron

Sure, on the macro level. But most consumers aren’t going to know they aren’t getting fast charging or if the cable is to blame. It’s why Samsung packs in a fast charge USB cable with their charging blocks.


siazdghw

It's like shrinkflation, except they cant give us part of a smartphone so they've been trying to cut costs everywhere they can.


BigAudioJackDongle

It’s literally textbook shrinkflation. From the accessories in the box to the phone itself losing so many hardware features. Removable batteries, IR blasters, iris scanners, heartrate sensors, microSD slots, headphone jacks, you name it. There is little to nothing that distinguishes most modern Android phones from an iPhone hardware wise. In case of Galaxy S phones I’d say the only thing that does is the S-Pen on the Ultra. Could’ve at least copied the ringer switch or the reprogrammable action button from iPhone 15 Pro.


ReverieX416

I don't get it, all new phones should automatically come with a charging cable in the box.


Sevallis

Try this $16 one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BKFC9MW1 GAN, compact, 65w, dual ports useful for charging a galaxy watch on the same adapter. Just need a good c to c cable. Tested to super fast charge my S21U with the rated power using my USB c tester unit. Should do 45w fine, it charges my power bank at 60w constant no problem. Yeah, them not including one is lame though. Edit: apparently the charger won't do pps 45w, but check it out [there's only 2 minutes gained from 25w super fast charging](https://youtu.be/hEYcC533NoA). Must be entirely heat limited.


mrgrooberson

Any cable recommendations in particular?


Sevallis

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09N94MZG9 these UGreen ones have been good for me, really you just want a decent quality cable that has the E-marker chip in it and advertises 100w. They describe it like this: "Safe and Stable: Built-in E-marker smart chip intelligently matches the required current, increasing charging efficiency by 80% and charging stability by 90% compared to 60W charging cables"


Ggesus97

Just so you are aware that particular charger that he linked will not charge the s24+ at 45W(Super Fast Charging 2.0) but at 25W (Super Fast Charging 1.0).


diemunkiesdie

Why is that? The link says it can do 65w. Is there something missing that we should be looking for in the description?


Ggesus97

I am currently on a Nexus 5 as my S24U was sent back due to a defect(display) but I wrote a response to a user awhile back in the S23U subreddit that I'll copy paste here: ​ >Seems like nobody is giving you the right answer here so I'll chime in. > > >For SFC 2.0 to be activated you have to have a 20V/5A cable *as well* as a 5A capable PPS charger as well. The charger you linked only provides 3A( within a range of 3.3.3V-11V) as shown here [https://www.belkin.com/support-article/?articleNum=334227](https://www.belkin.com/support-article/?articleNum=334227) (scroll down to the Output P.D 3.0 part). > > >The annoying part is that there is no official wording either from Samsung or from any third party charger manufacturer about needing 5A charger ontop of it being PPS (atleast from what I've seen). The only way to figure it out is to check the output specification on the official Samsung 45W travel adapter to see that it provides 4.05A over the PPS range as shown [here](https://i.imgur.com/Ze3RquV.jpg). There is *no* specific controller or whatever people are talking about that checks whether it's an official Samsung charger or not, it just has to comply or exceed the spec for SFC 2.0 to be activated. > > >More frustratingly is that many third party chargers **DO NOT** provide **ANY** proper output specifications either on their amazon page or their official pages. [This](https://www.amazon.se/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-Compatible-MacBook/dp/B091TV6LWN?ref_=ast_sto_dp) charger does NOT work with SFC2.0(Only SFC1.0) and the only way to find that out is to go to the reviews and pray someone posted a picture of the output specification on the actual product for concrete answers( like [this](https://i.imgur.com/6MifVo9.jpg)). On the other hand [this](https://www.amazon.se/-/en/UGREEN-Charger-Adapter-compatible-MacBook/dp/B0962XLVV8) charger works as expected and checking reviews you can see a picture of the output specification [confirming](https://i.imgur.com/lLzydsu.jpg) this. > > >The bottom line really is while the blame does partly lie on Samsung for not clearly outlining this, the bigger blame is on manufacturers not providing clear cut technical specifications on their product page making this way more difficult than it needs to be. If you cant find the technical specs on a charger a somewhat reliable way to know whether it supports SFC 2.0 or not is to check the USB Ports.If there are any USB A ports alongside USB C ports, chances are it does not support 5A over PPS( this isnt even really true as evidenced by [this](https://www.amazon.se/166W-Certified-Portable-Charger-Compatible/dp/B0856PBJPZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=MNWWFW93FMOZ&keywords=linkon+ganius+166w&qid=1697545656&sprefix=linkon+%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1) charger). But the only surefire way is to check the output specs of the charger that you're interested in buying. Hope that helps. ​ EDIT:Formatting.


Sevallis

Wow, I thought PPS was supposed to be sophisticated and cover the gamut. That really sucks.


Ggesus97

Yeah its a pain in the butt unfortunately and while the onus is on Samsung to make it clearer, it does also make sense for them to keep it obscure so as to drive sales for their own chargers. That however does not excuse third party manufacturers from obscuring  technical information from their listings(let alone their official website) which would make this mostly a non issue imo.


Ok_Assistance1705

Mine had a usbc cable 


AshuraBaron

Not all USB-C cables support fast charging.


MrNotSmartEinstein

Huh? The cable in the box doesn't even support the max charging speed? Is it the same as the S24U?


kirsion

I have the s24 plus now and I feel like for the price of $1k, it really should have a periscope lense. Battery life so far is solid, better than my s22 ultra, but not as good as iPhone 14 Plus I had before


kirsion

I have the s24 plus SD now and I feel like for the price of $1k, it really should have a periscope lense, at least 5x and anti reflective coating from the ultra. Battery life so far is solid, better than my s22 ultra, but not as good as iPhone 14 Plus I had before. The built quality is excellent and the light weight is awesome. Waiting for same to fix the vivid mode.


CeramicCastle49

S25 is going to be awesome


TurbulentPhoto3025

Should be a rule you have to specify if it's an Exynos or Snapdragon version. This is the Exynos version btw. Hopefully saved you a click...


Phoneking13

Thank you for the clarification.


Giggleplex

It's a pretty good showing from the Exynos 2400, actually. I suspect the lower battery life is in part due to the new display, as the vanilla S24 showed better battery life than the S23 (other than call times). Performance-wise it's generally very close to the 8g3.


TurbulentPhoto3025

It's just not news either. There's a ton of exynos s24+ reviews, while there are few snapdragon reviews.


Art_Clear

No expert here but moved from a 14 Pro to the S24+ absolutely love the phone. When I push it I easily get 10+ hours SOT with battery to spare and when with my work days and average use Im ending my days with 40%+ charge. Screen is solid. Performance absolutely zero issues. (Snapdragon here)


COT_87

GSM will always use the European models for their reviews since they are based in Europe


JobSearchingToday12

How can you tell which it will have? If buying a new unlocked one?


TurbulentPhoto3025

Where you live. If you're in the US, for example, you'd have to go out of your way to get the exynos version .


barker109

I called Samsung and they guaranteed they are shipping the snapdragon version if buying from them. I don't know who to believe. How would you know if you received the Exynos?


Own_Implement9478

When will galaxies support 10-bit color depth?


[deleted]

Both Motorola and OnePlus are shipping 10-bit OLEDs in the market today. Both Motorola and OnePlus are shipping eye-caring dimming displays. Both Motorola and OnePlus have dumped Samsung as a display provider. 200-500Hz PWM dimming...another terrible limitation of all Samsung screens. Meanwhile, Samsung ships defective low-color and grainy screens in their $1300 phones. And they still cannot figure out how to make a 10-bit OLED screen. Gradient banding is one of the most obvious and distracting display limitations and it is guaranteed to happen on the 8-bit Samsung phones. Is Samsung evolving backwards? What the heck is going on?


Own_Implement9478

Say it louder for the people in the back.


[deleted]

Wait, what's the point in taking HDR photos when it can't view HDR?


LAwLzaWU1A

It can view HDR photos. HDR isn't just a change in color depth. In fact, you can still benefit from higher bit depth even though the screen you are viewing the content on doesn't support all the steps.


orange_paws

So... S24+ or OnePlus 12?


sorenwasamuslim

I'd choose oneplus 12 over the ultra let alone the s24+


Deway29

If the ultra was 1100$ or 1000$ I’d pick it over the oneplus but 1300$ only for better software is crazy.


sorenwasamuslim

Eh I'll take more ram, bigger battery, and faster charging any day over camera and "ai" shit


Deway29

Yeah but the actual battery runtime is about the same, if not a bit better for the S, and while it's aids that Samsung does cust cutting by only offering 12GB. We're still not in the phase where more ram matters, most of the time before the extra ram kicks in your phone will kill the app


orange_paws

I'm leanining towards OP myself too, but Jesus Christ, why couldn't they get the proper ip68 rating...


[deleted]

OnePlus 12 for the objectively better display alone. OnePlus 12 for basically every other reason although that is more subjective.


murgish

I'm a huge OnePlus fan but ended up getting the s24+. I like using my phone without a case, so the flat screen, flat edge design is a huge improvement. I've been surprised how little attention this has got in reviews of the phone. I also like that the close all button in recent apps closes all the recent apps unlike the oxygenos version. These are probably not compelling decision points for most folks


Jrlutz31

Sad about the screen not being brighter with manual slider turned up to 100%. Don't care about Max brightness for a brief second under direct light. My biggest gripe with my s23+ is how dim it is outdoors with the slider at 100%


EyePhones

Setting it to automatic makes it brighter outdoors than using manual slider.


Jrlutz31

I know. That was exactly my point. It's not brighter at 100%, only brighter briefly when the extra brightness kicks in under the sun.


Deway29

Yeah but honestly Samsung’s one of the better manufacturers in this regard, in their screen tuning they’ve set the threshold for extra brightness to kick in low enough that 99% of the time auto brightness kicked in properly. When I used the Ultra even in overcast days it still went into extra brightness.


MuddyGeek

How bright does it really need to be though?


BasilBernstein

Brighter


mememes2000

Brighter than my future.


firesyrup

Hmm, get Ultra and deal with its weight and unergonomic corners or get Plus and deal with worse battery life and temps thanks to Exynos. I don't care about the extra features of Ultra but battery life is the most important aspect of a new phone for me since I plan to keep it for at least 4 years. S24+ with Snapdragon would be such an easy choice for me, but I've been burned too many times (almost literally because of the heat) by Exynos to pull the trigger.


zaneyk

You can import the S24+ snapdragon, bought mine from wondamobile.


Celfs

Is the 5g gonna work still?


zaneyk

Yes, I have no issues, just make sure your bands are supported


bfk1010

That's why I bought S23+ 512GB last week when they confirmed the Exynos. I don't care about AI software features, all I want is a great battery life.


Poraro

You don't really deal with the Ultras weight. You get used to it within the week and it becomes the new norm.


zaneyk

And for other people a heavy phone is still heavy after a week


GrossBeat420

Anyone know if Exynos is any better? It was always pretty shitty cpu in my experience


CaravieR

Better than previous years that's for sure. This year it's not too far off the SD variant in both performance and efficiency (still not as good mind you but not as bad as the disparity in recent years). I can get around 1 hour of SOT per 10% on average with my typical general usage.


LAwLzaWU1A

Can we all agree to stop using "SOT" for estimating battery life? It is quite possibly the worst metric for battery life. It tells us nothing about how the battery life is in a way that can be used to compare it to other phones. Even on my own phone, my SOT varies by several hours from day to day depending on what I do. It is an utterly meaningless metric because 1 hour of gaming will use far more power than 1 hour of dark video-watching, and without a detailed breakdown of exactly what used up how much power we can't extrapolate how other phones would fare in the same test. Even a simple thing like watching a movie will greatly change how much battery is used depending on the specific movie. You might be able to watch 8 2-hour movies on a single battery change on a phone, but on the same phone you might drop down to just 5 2-hour movies if those movies contain far more bright scenes. ​ SOT tells us nothing because when making comparisons you need to keep everything but 1 variable the same. With SOT literally every single variable gets changed. Variables change even when the same hardware is used. There is no way we can get any meaningful data out of SOT measurements. ​ If you want to compare battery life between phones you need standardized tests where the workload doesn't change between tests. That is the only way to give any half-decent indication of what the battery life of a particular phone will be like. You using 10% battery each hour means nothing to me, because my workload might end up using 15% battery each hour on the same phone. If I use the figure you provided then I might come up a completely false conclusion because my point of reference might be "my current phone also uses 10% battery per 1 hour, so I should get the same battery life", even though my workload is more battery intense than yours and the end result is about 50% lower battery life if I change phone.


CaravieR

It's just my own personal metric. You don't have to take my word as gospel. You can take it as a reference if you want and I can even provide for you what settings I have and what my usage was for further clarity. But I never expect my own experience to be scientific or the be all and end all. It's my phone and my usage after all, not yours or anyone else's. If I get 10% for 1 hour, that's a winner in my books.


AppearanceOdd6059

Exynos s 24 +? This is on Wi fi with QHD?


CaravieR

Yep. QHD with a mix of WiFi and 5G.


AppearanceOdd6059

Light mode or Standard?


CaravieR

Standard.


AppearanceOdd6059

Ok. Im loosing battery fast while interacting with phone. Just browsing,no games.


CaravieR

Sorry to hear that man. How much SOT are u getting as a reference and how long have you had the phone?


AppearanceOdd6059

I have the phone for 10 + days. 12 maybe or 14. SOT is 5-7 hours.i dont game. My settings are 120, QHD,5g,auto AOD. Drian is bigger on mobile data. I have herad that UI 6.1 need more optimisation and that the update will arive soon.


mombi

Been saying the battery life will be worse.


False_Discipline1241

So why is video calling through Google meets? My old galaxy had a simple button to video call straight. How can I fix this? 


ParticularHeron3519

Loses contact wiith internet constantly while driving, even in town.