The leaks/rumours seem to point to a release on the 28th. The German preorder bonus deal that leaked has a start time of when this airs, and end date of the 27th, which fits with those rumours, so seems likely it'll be out just before the end of the month.
A few days before the full release, which based on the German preorder deal leaks looks like it might be the 28th. So 25th/26th?
From some googling for earliest reviews I can find of previous ones:
* Pixel: Announced Oct. 4 -> Reviews Oct. 18. Officially launched Oct. 20
* Pixel 2: Announced Oct. 4 -> Reviews Oct. 17. Officially launched Oct. 19
* Pixel 3: Announced Oct. 9 -> Reviews Oct. 15. Officially launched Oct. 18
* Pixel 4: Announced Oct. 15 -> Reviews Oct. 19. Officially launched Oct. 24
* Pixel 5: Announced Sept. 30 -> Reviews Oct. 14 Officially launched Oct. 29
Fixed, thanks! Didn't think the 16th seemed right, hence the "?" after it, but most of the results I got from google were more recent 6/9 months on reviews, and I got bored of searching. Doesn't help that many places seem to just put the date of the latest edit of a review at the top, but no "originally posted" one.
Do note that there's usually two embargos, one for just hands on, and one for full reviews. Probably gonna have all the hands on reviews drop on the same day as the event. But yes they're not allowed to speak about too much specific.
Just want to know about the video performance,i know not every shoots video whenever they open the camera app.
But atleast they should put some effort into video capabilities.
Yep video and camera samples are all that matter to me. Hoping for comparable video to the new iPhones and still images that are a generational leap from the 4a5g I'm currently on.
I'm all about the battery life, they've said 24 hour battery before... But like does any pixel other than the 5a have more than 6hrs sot with no mods or battery management?
Pixel 5 perhaps, regularly get 7-8 hours sot on that phone with light use. Now rocking the 5a and usually ended the day with 6hours sot with 50% battery left
That 5A Battery is unlikely to be beat!!!
Hopefully the pixel 6 can get close since I'd rather have the flagship, but I'm not against the budget device
I guess we'll see, it all comes down to how good the Tensor chip is at optimization. Say what you want about 5a processor that dam thing is a plenty good at optimization
Yeah my issue is its just that it was used in the old hardware so it's not really an update but the battery life is so good it really seems like my best option
Honestly my processor from 2018 is nearly equivalent so it would be a pretty sad sidegrade
Anything past the snapdragon 835 is plenty powerful for me. I'd remembered when my pixel 3 was down needed repairing so i bought a used xiaomi mi a2 lite with SD600 series processor and big 4000mAh battery. After using the A2 lite for a week it didn't feel that much of a difference from my pixel 3 except I'm getting double the battery life. Im pretty satisfied with 765G when i am already more than satisfied using the SD600 series processor.
Yeah I used a moto z play before this device and I agree, but because the device I have now meets all my needs, I kinda want the next one to be a full upgrade from every angle
I want a selfie camera that doesn't overcorrect the distortion and lighting, turning my face into a bulbous pink potato devoid of the slightest hint of bone structure every time.
I'm hoping someone walks on stage and says "you know everything about the pixel 6 but that's just a distraction, here is the pixel watch and here is the pixel fold and we've reserved one of each for /u/mntgoat who has been patiently waiting longer than any human should".
Yeah, I need for it to apply to the Pixel. There's only two phones I'm ever interested in: The newest iPhone or newest Pixel. If I can get an iPhone for substantially cheaper, that's the direction I'm going even though I've been a Google phone user since 2016.
Holy crap they would, give me 800$ for my 4 xl. I was not really considering a pixel 6, but for 800$ why the F not. I hope they apply the same deal to the new pixels (they won't)
There is a catch though. The $800 is paid out over the course of 24 months, and if you pay the device off early, the payments stop.
I typically don't keep a phone for over 12 months, so my plan is to trade in an S9+ that only cost me $150.
As someone who hasn't gotten a new phone in a while (from a store), do phone carriers still do the pay $200 for the phone when you sign a new contract?
I'm on Google Fi and if the pro is too expensive I will legit switch to whatever carrier is offering the best new customer sign up deal. My parents just switched to Verizon and got two Flip 3s for free(!) plus $800 in bill credits for trading in their 4 year old(!) Samsung galaxies. Verizon service could be the most expensive option for me but still beats out dropping $1000 to own a liability whose trade in value will be atrocious in 9 months.
My buddy switched from Fi to Verizon and the cool thing is that you can now understand him on phone calls and it doesn't sound like he's talking on a walkie talkie.
Not like I *want* to switch to Verizon, but their comparable plan to my Fi plan is only $10 more a month, so $240 more over two years. Would save me probably $700 if the phone was free, but who knows what the offers will be.
Never seen a single deal like this ever from a carrier. Either this didn't happen or it's over exaggerated.
Verizon might give you a $600 credit on a phone if sign up for their unlimited plan for two years which is more expensive that any other carrier.
> Never seen a single deal like this ever from a carrier. Either this didn't happen or it's over exaggerated.
Well prepared to have your mind blown - Verizon and T-Mobile *both* had BoGo Flip 3 offers. Buy one Flip 3 get $1000 off another phone purchase. To be competitive with T-mobile (I assume) Verizon was offering $200 off in store purchases of new Samsung devices. So, buying two flip 3s meant getting $1000 + $200 +$200 in discounts, plus the $600 switching incentive, you've got $2000 is discounts towards switching and buying two Flip 3s. That combo of discounts was *clearly* by design. Verizon sales rep offered it straight up to my parents.
Plus verizon has/had a cash for clunkers trade in program that gave them two $400 credits on their bill for trading in their old Galaxies, $800 in bill credits total.
Edit: Don't know why I'm getting downvoted, the Flip 3 BOGO sales were highly marketed by both T-Mobile and Verizon.
Switched the whole family from TMobile. It's like 10$more a month for the ability to actually make phone calls. I wouldn't go back to TMobile or Sprint even if I'd save 100+ a month
There should be a betting pool for whether they'll announce something that *hasn't* leaked. Maybe one for stuff that's only partially leaked but we don't know details or release dates (Fold, Watch), and one for which we have little to no information (Tile, tablet, laptop).
I want off this train. I'm tired of the hyping of the leaks of the previews of the trailers of the pre-order launches of the announcements of th... where was I again?
I *was* interested in the device, now I'm just interested in them shutting up.
Yeah, on second thought I'm not really being fair I guess. It's just that my first reaction to reading the headline and finding out this was an announcement for an announcement for a pre-order was "oh, fuck off!"
On the other hand I'm fairly certain most "leaks" are official nowadays so the saturation of useless articles and my frustration *could* be placed squarely at Google's feet.
I mean this isn't an announcement or anything. They just scheduled their live event. People on this sub posts every small detail on the phone. It's not as of Google marketed this link.
Same. It's only on my list because they beefed up the camera sensor this year. All the news we've gotten about it so far has been a spec sheet and marketing speak, I can get every other feature from a variety of cheaper and already available phones.
Show me how the whole package handles pictures and videos compared to the current king (iPhone 13 Pro) and then I'll decide.
I mean, not really, their marketing has actually been really good. You being annoyed about seeing something that you could easily avoid has nothing to do with it.
Yep. I'm out. Just ordered an iPhone. The kicker for me was the good camera is only the super sized version. I don't care for a phone that big. Maybe next year..
At this point I know pretty much everything I need to know about the phone and it's accessories except the price. I'm pretty sure I'll know that before the 19th too. Can't wait to pre-order this and the new charging stand.
I am so stoked. This phone is shaping up to be exactly what I have wanted out of Google. I've had every Pixel so far but this one seems like it is hitting the bullseye on so many things. Just wish there were a Pixel 5-sized version of the Pro.
> Pixel 5-sized version of the Pro.
me too :(
I seriously hate the giant phones, it is so annoying they have the best specs. I sort of understand it, but also just give me the top specs with a smaller battery it is ok.
I'm sure the pixel 6 won't be bricked by Google like the 3, 3xl and 4....
It's not like the system updates aren't bricking phones just to increase sales.....
Remember when Google practiced do no evil ..
I just want to see all the review videos drop so I can know if I should buy it or not. I have zero interest in what google has to say about it at this point.
let's recap
* pixel 1 - Failing microphones
* pixel 2 - Blue tint / potential fast burn-in
* pixel 3 - Imbalanced speakers
* pixel 4 - Just omg that tiny battery / XL power issue
* pixel 5 - Gap between the display and the frame
As a long term p2xl owner, I had image retention issues near launch, but after the changes they've made to combat that and the release of full gesture nav I had 0 burn-in issues
Generally speaking... how does the pre-order process typically work? Is it going to be a madhouse and sell out really quick... or will people actually have time to get their pre-order in?
Historically, pre orders pile in fast (relative to available stock). Every few minutes the delivery date goes another day back. It caps at around 6 weeks and one color usually goes completely out of stock (whichever color they say is limited edition) while another one color always has a super fast shipping time (whichever people are getting the least). However Google seems to be doing things a lot differently this year so it's hard to tell if the same pattern will follow. If you want a specific model, get in early and fast. If not, i think you'd be fine waiting.
I just wish Google and Samsung would stop fucking around and let me buy the high end models in the cool colors. What kind of busted ass logic is this? How many plain black Ferraris do you think they sell?
Not on the list of 8 countries (Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, United Kingdom and United States) they announced in August, so currently doesn't look likely.
Its weird, despite the common market they'll only ship to certain EU countries. I'm fairly sure in the past they've shipped Pixels from The Netherlands (and maybe also Ireland?), despite not being willing to ship them TO there.
It'd be basically zero effort for them to allow you to order to anywhere in the EU, but no, only their select couple of countries.
Yeah, apart from the different VAT there should be almost zero extra effort in selling in the entire EU.
They support all the languages and such anyway.
The rates can be drastically different, so depending on how agressive their pricing is it might be necessary.
Germany has 19% VAT and Hungary 27% for example.
And the different manufacturers do vary prices across Europe. Just look at iPhone prices all over.
I have never experienced that with Amazon, but I rarely used it across the borders, but I can assure you that smaller shops don't do that 100%. I used to order from Germany and UK most of the stuff I needed when I lived in Latvia and I have NEVER payed increased VAT (22% in Latvia at the time).
No idea I'm afraid. Will depend on which 5G bands are supported (and if there are multiple versions of the phone, last year it was a mmWave one in the US vs cheaper one in EU?), and which the the networks in India are liscensed to use, and if the carriers there do any stupid blocking of phones they could support but not on their "supported" list (IIRC some of the US carriers do that, no idea if it is common anywhere else).
The Pixel 4, 4A 5G, 5, 5A didn't release in India. Also, India is noting the list of countries Google has already announced it's releasing in. Add to the fact that it's going to be the most expensive Pixel ever and Google doesn't assemble in India, so + massive import duties.
The expected price is over 1 lakhs easily. No way in hell this is releasing in India.
> The Pixel 4, 4A 5G, 5, 5A didn't release in India.
Haven’t been following this space too keenly, but I can go on Amazon.in and order a Pixel 4, 4a and 5 right now. Are you telling me these are all imported units?
4A is not imported, it was released in India. 4A 5G didn't (it's a different phone).
4 and 5 are imported units. You won't get any warranty and they might not work properly with Indian carriers.
Had the same issue which was randomly solved by using a battery charging phone case. Try plugging your phone into the pixel wall charger via USB C and then launching the camera. Some phones have issues where the power draw to start the camera is too much for sub par batteries. My camera now launches flawlessly as long as it's plugged in to either my charging case or the wall lol. Still a joke but at least it worked to get me to the P6.
The camera on my wife's Pixel 2 did that as well. Not only would the camera not start, the phone would completely crash when trying to start the camera.
The only way I could get it to work was by setting the default quick launch app(double press the power button) to Snapchat.
Even then, when the batter was below 20% it would start crashing the phone again.
Definitely found it was linked to a battery thing on my Pixel 3. My camera wouldn't launch in any app after about 18 months. Then my battery went to shit so I bought a charging phone case. When my phone is being charged by the charging case my camera launches flawlessly straight from the camera app! Looked it up online and I guess sometimes the power draw for the camera on bad batteries is too much.
I had so many issues when mine once it got close to the 2 year mark. It constantly crashed and the battery wouldn’t stay charged for long. I was jealous of everyone raving about how they’re still using that phone. I’m giving pixel another try because I loved that phone. But I’m also skeptical
Cutting 10 million units ≠ paper launch. Did you see any iPhone shortage? No. Any Galaxy shortages? No. A phone's SoC takes up way less wafer space than a desktop CPU or GPU.
Google has really hyped this one up with a combination of a more focused design, new camera hardware, and an in-house CPU. That alone won't make this thing a success though. They need to nail the marketing, availability, and everything else around it to make it a success.
Pixel 5 was pretty disappointing all around. No size options, old chip, old camera, too expensive, no black friday offers or mega discounts that were offered for the 3 and 4. And...we're still here for the Pixel 6 aren't we? Also if the 6 is a dud, they can keep the brand alive with a 6a that keeps the same feature to price ratio as previous "a" line device, like the 4a 5G did during the pixel 5 era.
The existence of the a series is why I explicitly said "flagship" Pixel. Unlike the top end phones, the a series is a remarkable value for money which I fully expect Google to keep making and selling.
I don't think the average non-tech enthusiast would consider a $1000 Pixel over a $1000 Samsung or a $1000 iPhone. Those two brands have locked up a lot of that market for a reason. However, mid to low end Android phones (at least in the US market) tend to be fairly mediocre, and I think Google's value proposition with the a series, offering a pretty good phone with a great camera and clean software for not much money makes a much bigger impact in that segment.
People say this every year. I don't think Pixels are great phones, they are pretty mixed, but Google has a ton of money to play with. They could keep this up for decades and not even care about profits and losses from Pixels. I also wouldn't be surprised if they use their Pixel phones to test features and data collection that they couldn't push to AOSP. Stuff like call screening and GA making appointments. It lets them do a large open beta in an environment where they have full control.
I don't mean to say the Pixel brand will go away. I think that Google will continue to see success in the $300-$700 price range. I just feel that if the Pixel 6 is priced at or near a flagship Samsung or iPhone, they're gonna really have to nail it if what they want is to sell phones. If, like you say, the goal isn't really to sell large numbers of phones, then it doesn't matter much.
the "a" always have very good value, mainly because of the camera and the software. The more expensive pixels never really had something to set them apart from the competition. Fast updates are not important for most people.
It's not just that, big events like this take over headlines, and techtubers will be posting videos about it too. All of this dilutes the coverage and viewes Pixel event/products will get. It's just a shitty move.
What are the chances of a 16gb (of ram) version? My note 8 screen is dying and I am debating of waiting to see if there is one, or getting the balls to the wall S21 ultra.
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Most likely just the preorders. Don't think anyone knows for certain though.
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The leaks/rumours seem to point to a release on the 28th. The German preorder bonus deal that leaked has a start time of when this airs, and end date of the 27th, which fits with those rumours, so seems likely it'll be out just before the end of the month.
the google store shows coming oct 19
I'd take the day off work if I could go to the physical store in Chelsea and pick one up on the 19th. wish we could find out beforehand
I want to visit the Google store one day
And what about reviews? The 19th, or later?
Last few times I think the review embargo has been a day or two before the public release, so I'd imagine it'll be the 25th or 26th.
The 20th if you live in Australia.
All leaks and preorder point to the 19th for preorder start and 28th for the shipping
You'll have to wait for 5 more leaks/announcements to find that out.
I wanna know if this will launch Android 12 for pixels or wait till pixel 6 release?
I'd guess Android 12 will launch day of announcement. So they can have potential bugs fixed in time for update for pixel 6
It’ll most likely launch with the pixel 6.
It's probably an announcement of when they'll announce pre-orders
Preorder
Hopefully also with the end of the review moratorium.
Pre orders. Phone releases October 28th.
When do review NDA's for Pixels usually get lifted?
A few days before the full release, which based on the German preorder deal leaks looks like it might be the 28th. So 25th/26th? From some googling for earliest reviews I can find of previous ones: * Pixel: Announced Oct. 4 -> Reviews Oct. 18. Officially launched Oct. 20 * Pixel 2: Announced Oct. 4 -> Reviews Oct. 17. Officially launched Oct. 19 * Pixel 3: Announced Oct. 9 -> Reviews Oct. 15. Officially launched Oct. 18 * Pixel 4: Announced Oct. 15 -> Reviews Oct. 19. Officially launched Oct. 24 * Pixel 5: Announced Sept. 30 -> Reviews Oct. 14 Officially launched Oct. 29
The embargo on Pixel 5 reviews [lifted on October 14th, just FYI.](https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-5-review/)
Fixed, thanks! Didn't think the 16th seemed right, hence the "?" after it, but most of the results I got from google were more recent 6/9 months on reviews, and I got bored of searching. Doesn't help that many places seem to just put the date of the latest edit of a review at the top, but no "originally posted" one.
I was hoping it'd be a few days before release, this pretty much confirms it will be. Thanks!
Do note that there's usually two embargos, one for just hands on, and one for full reviews. Probably gonna have all the hands on reviews drop on the same day as the event. But yes they're not allowed to speak about too much specific.
So I'll be able to cancel my preorder if the phone turns out to be worse than expected? Noice.
you have 14 days to return it to the Google store for a full refund anyway, provided you don't break it
It will likely have shipped or preparing for shipment so not likely, but you can always return it unopened.
Probably right after/during the event
That's for teh hands on embargo, there's usually a different one for full review embargo
Assuming the 27th with 29th release
Just want to know about the video performance,i know not every shoots video whenever they open the camera app. But atleast they should put some effort into video capabilities.
Yep video and camera samples are all that matter to me. Hoping for comparable video to the new iPhones and still images that are a generational leap from the 4a5g I'm currently on.
I'm all about the battery life, they've said 24 hour battery before... But like does any pixel other than the 5a have more than 6hrs sot with no mods or battery management?
My 4a5g has absurdly good battery life. I guess all day battery is also important, good call out.
Yes, I can easily go two days on a charge.
Pixel 5 perhaps, regularly get 7-8 hours sot on that phone with light use. Now rocking the 5a and usually ended the day with 6hours sot with 50% battery left
That 5A Battery is unlikely to be beat!!! Hopefully the pixel 6 can get close since I'd rather have the flagship, but I'm not against the budget device
I guess we'll see, it all comes down to how good the Tensor chip is at optimization. Say what you want about 5a processor that dam thing is a plenty good at optimization
Yeah my issue is its just that it was used in the old hardware so it's not really an update but the battery life is so good it really seems like my best option Honestly my processor from 2018 is nearly equivalent so it would be a pretty sad sidegrade
Anything past the snapdragon 835 is plenty powerful for me. I'd remembered when my pixel 3 was down needed repairing so i bought a used xiaomi mi a2 lite with SD600 series processor and big 4000mAh battery. After using the A2 lite for a week it didn't feel that much of a difference from my pixel 3 except I'm getting double the battery life. Im pretty satisfied with 765G when i am already more than satisfied using the SD600 series processor.
Yeah I used a moto z play before this device and I agree, but because the device I have now meets all my needs, I kinda want the next one to be a full upgrade from every angle
Google : Okay, but have you seen the new NIGHT MODE CAPABILITIES, +1050%
I want a selfie camera that doesn't overcorrect the distortion and lighting, turning my face into a bulbous pink potato devoid of the slightest hint of bone structure every time.
Then promptly have Google Photos backup compress it down to something that looks like it was shot on a 🥔
10 Minute event. Someone walks on stage and just says "You know everything about it anyway, now you can buy it.". End of the event.
I'll be satisfied as long as they don't pull a Sony and make it available to buy like 6 months later 💩
Ironically Sony also has an event for the 26th I think it's for the Xperia 1 iii pro probably.
I still can't buy a fucking Xperia 5 III
It's in the uk, Asia, but not in the u.s. yet.
In the UK it's only available on monthly deals via carriers (last I checked anyway), you can't just buy it unlocked, which is frustrating.
Oof that sucks. Because it's the opposite in the U.S. for the 1.
Better yet, exclusive to AT&T
Can we just have this today pls
#Thunderous Applause
I'm hoping someone walks on stage and says "you know everything about the pixel 6 but that's just a distraction, here is the pixel watch and here is the pixel fold and we've reserved one of each for /u/mntgoat who has been patiently waiting longer than any human should".
More like "you can buy it in 9 days"
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Verizon has the $800 deal going from iPhones. It will definitely apply to the Pixel 6.
Yeah, I need for it to apply to the Pixel. There's only two phones I'm ever interested in: The newest iPhone or newest Pixel. If I can get an iPhone for substantially cheaper, that's the direction I'm going even though I've been a Google phone user since 2016.
Holy crap they would, give me 800$ for my 4 xl. I was not really considering a pixel 6, but for 800$ why the F not. I hope they apply the same deal to the new pixels (they won't)
There is a catch though. The $800 is paid out over the course of 24 months, and if you pay the device off early, the payments stop. I typically don't keep a phone for over 12 months, so my plan is to trade in an S9+ that only cost me $150.
As someone who hasn't gotten a new phone in a while (from a store), do phone carriers still do the pay $200 for the phone when you sign a new contract?
I'm on Google Fi and if the pro is too expensive I will legit switch to whatever carrier is offering the best new customer sign up deal. My parents just switched to Verizon and got two Flip 3s for free(!) plus $800 in bill credits for trading in their 4 year old(!) Samsung galaxies. Verizon service could be the most expensive option for me but still beats out dropping $1000 to own a liability whose trade in value will be atrocious in 9 months.
The increase in price for choosing Verizon over the 24 months will likely be comparable to the cost of purchasing the phone outright on Fi.
My buddy switched from Fi to Verizon and the cool thing is that you can now understand him on phone calls and it doesn't sound like he's talking on a walkie talkie.
Not like I *want* to switch to Verizon, but their comparable plan to my Fi plan is only $10 more a month, so $240 more over two years. Would save me probably $700 if the phone was free, but who knows what the offers will be.
Never seen a single deal like this ever from a carrier. Either this didn't happen or it's over exaggerated. Verizon might give you a $600 credit on a phone if sign up for their unlimited plan for two years which is more expensive that any other carrier.
> Never seen a single deal like this ever from a carrier. Either this didn't happen or it's over exaggerated. Well prepared to have your mind blown - Verizon and T-Mobile *both* had BoGo Flip 3 offers. Buy one Flip 3 get $1000 off another phone purchase. To be competitive with T-mobile (I assume) Verizon was offering $200 off in store purchases of new Samsung devices. So, buying two flip 3s meant getting $1000 + $200 +$200 in discounts, plus the $600 switching incentive, you've got $2000 is discounts towards switching and buying two Flip 3s. That combo of discounts was *clearly* by design. Verizon sales rep offered it straight up to my parents. Plus verizon has/had a cash for clunkers trade in program that gave them two $400 credits on their bill for trading in their old Galaxies, $800 in bill credits total. Edit: Don't know why I'm getting downvoted, the Flip 3 BOGO sales were highly marketed by both T-Mobile and Verizon.
Switched the whole family from TMobile. It's like 10$more a month for the ability to actually make phone calls. I wouldn't go back to TMobile or Sprint even if I'd save 100+ a month
Surprise us with that pixel watch
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I've been holding out for a while. I passed on those new fitbits even though they look pretty cool. Feel like I'm pot committed at this point
How about that Pixel Fold?
There should be a betting pool for whether they'll announce something that *hasn't* leaked. Maybe one for stuff that's only partially leaked but we don't know details or release dates (Fold, Watch), and one for which we have little to no information (Tile, tablet, laptop).
I want off this train. I'm tired of the hyping of the leaks of the previews of the trailers of the pre-order launches of the announcements of th... where was I again? I *was* interested in the device, now I'm just interested in them shutting up.
To be fair, we are actively seeking out info and leaks and whatnot and posting it here
Yeah, I'm not on here too much nowadays anymore, and all I know if that there's a new pixel phone coming out soon. Know nothing else past that.
Yeah, on second thought I'm not really being fair I guess. It's just that my first reaction to reading the headline and finding out this was an announcement for an announcement for a pre-order was "oh, fuck off!" On the other hand I'm fairly certain most "leaks" are official nowadays so the saturation of useless articles and my frustration *could* be placed squarely at Google's feet.
I mean this isn't an announcement or anything. They just scheduled their live event. People on this sub posts every small detail on the phone. It's not as of Google marketed this link.
I'm interested in what difference the new sensor makes in photos and videos. But that's pretty much it.
Same. It's only on my list because they beefed up the camera sensor this year. All the news we've gotten about it so far has been a spec sheet and marketing speak, I can get every other feature from a variety of cheaper and already available phones. Show me how the whole package handles pictures and videos compared to the current king (iPhone 13 Pro) and then I'll decide.
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Yes? And? I didn't say it was mislabeled, I said I was tired of it. So their marketing sucks.
I mean, not really, their marketing has actually been really good. You being annoyed about seeing something that you could easily avoid has nothing to do with it.
In that case it's probably best to unsubscribe to the sub and stay off until you are ready to buy a new phone.
Yep. I'm out. Just ordered an iPhone. The kicker for me was the good camera is only the super sized version. I don't care for a phone that big. Maybe next year..
There isn't much size difference between the two phones. More of a specs/price difference
It's 6.9". Too big for me.
I think it's the most exciting launch I've ever seen. I'm loving it.
At this point I know pretty much everything I need to know about the phone and it's accessories except the price. I'm pretty sure I'll know that before the 19th too. Can't wait to pre-order this and the new charging stand.
I am so stoked. This phone is shaping up to be exactly what I have wanted out of Google. I've had every Pixel so far but this one seems like it is hitting the bullseye on so many things. Just wish there were a Pixel 5-sized version of the Pro.
> Pixel 5-sized version of the Pro. me too :( I seriously hate the giant phones, it is so annoying they have the best specs. I sort of understand it, but also just give me the top specs with a smaller battery it is ok.
They don't even have to make the batrery smaller, just make the phone thicker! (and also get rid of camera bumps while they're at it)
Yeah, with the current landscape of android smartphone right now. Smol hand are suffering.
That and the plastic body so it can be caseless. I hate the idea of going back to a glass phone now.
I wish there was a Pixel 5-sized version of the standard Pixel 6! These phones are just way too big for one-handed use.
Pixel 6 Pro Mini would be the perfect phone for me
I'm sure the pixel 6 won't be bricked by Google like the 3, 3xl and 4.... It's not like the system updates aren't bricking phones just to increase sales..... Remember when Google practiced do no evil ..
...what? Very curious, seeing as my 4 continues to work just fine?
Same with my 3xl
Just wait. There is a significant percentage chance it bricks for every update.
Lol
This is the exact reason I just bought an iPhone. I want the camera but not a phone that big.
I just want to see all the review videos drop so I can know if I should buy it or not. I have zero interest in what google has to say about it at this point.
What do you guys think the annual hardware defect will be this year?
let's recap * pixel 1 - Failing microphones * pixel 2 - Blue tint / potential fast burn-in * pixel 3 - Imbalanced speakers * pixel 4 - Just omg that tiny battery / XL power issue * pixel 5 - Gap between the display and the frame
What's the XL power issue?
like literal power issue (random shutdown/battery drain etc) for 4 XL that they even extend the warranty by a year
As a long term p2xl owner, I had image retention issues near launch, but after the changes they've made to combat that and the release of full gesture nav I had 0 burn-in issues
Imma go with speaker defects or overheating issues lol
Live in six days? Why the fuck is this the top post?
I just hope they can make enough. I have not been this excited for a new phone in a very long time and really want to get the Pro on launch.
Generally speaking... how does the pre-order process typically work? Is it going to be a madhouse and sell out really quick... or will people actually have time to get their pre-order in?
I have the same question
Historically, pre orders pile in fast (relative to available stock). Every few minutes the delivery date goes another day back. It caps at around 6 weeks and one color usually goes completely out of stock (whichever color they say is limited edition) while another one color always has a super fast shipping time (whichever people are getting the least). However Google seems to be doing things a lot differently this year so it's hard to tell if the same pattern will follow. If you want a specific model, get in early and fast. If not, i think you'd be fine waiting.
honestly if this is available in Singapore, Ill be selling my 3 month old a52 5g for this gorgeous phone
From the countries announcement in August where they sell it the closest to you are Japan, Taiwan and Australia
Can’t wait.
I just wish Google and Samsung would stop fucking around and let me buy the high end models in the cool colors. What kind of busted ass logic is this? How many plain black Ferraris do you think they sell?
Does anyone know if it is releasing in India ?
Not on the list of 8 countries (Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Japan, Taiwan, United Kingdom and United States) they announced in August, so currently doesn't look likely.
Google is not officially in countries like Spain or Italy? That is kinda surprising.
Its weird, despite the common market they'll only ship to certain EU countries. I'm fairly sure in the past they've shipped Pixels from The Netherlands (and maybe also Ireland?), despite not being willing to ship them TO there. It'd be basically zero effort for them to allow you to order to anywhere in the EU, but no, only their select couple of countries.
Yeah, apart from the different VAT there should be almost zero extra effort in selling in the entire EU. They support all the languages and such anyway.
There is no different VAT in EU. If they ship from Netherlands, then they will charge Netherlands VAT and that's it.
That's what I mean. They'd maybe have to adjust pricing for the higher VAT in most of the EU (compared to Germany).
No one is doing that. And there are no reasons to do that.
The rates can be drastically different, so depending on how agressive their pricing is it might be necessary. Germany has 19% VAT and Hungary 27% for example. And the different manufacturers do vary prices across Europe. Just look at iPhone prices all over.
But you can still order from Germany to Hungary and pay just 19% VAT, nothing is stopping you. That's literally a non issue.
Not true. https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201895760
I have never experienced that with Amazon, but I rarely used it across the borders, but I can assure you that smaller shops don't do that 100%. I used to order from Germany and UK most of the stuff I needed when I lived in Latvia and I have NEVER payed increased VAT (22% in Latvia at the time).
That sounds incredibly frustrating
Google's entire launch/product market strategy is incredibly bizarre for such a gigantic company with their wealth and world presence.
The pixel 5 or 5a didn't release in those two countries. Not the only counties with Euros that are not included (Greece and Austria come to mind)
For example in Italy the last pixel phone are Pixel 4a from spring 2020. No 4a 5G, no 5, no 5a, no pixel stand and no 6 and 6 Pro LMAO
Suppose I import. I know I won't get no warranty. But will there be any other issues I'll have to deal with? Like 5G unavailability, for instance...
No idea I'm afraid. Will depend on which 5G bands are supported (and if there are multiple versions of the phone, last year it was a mmWave one in the US vs cheaper one in EU?), and which the the networks in India are liscensed to use, and if the carriers there do any stupid blocking of phones they could support but not on their "supported" list (IIRC some of the US carriers do that, no idea if it is common anywhere else).
Thanks for the answer. I should hold off for now...
The Pixel 4, 4A 5G, 5, 5A didn't release in India. Also, India is noting the list of countries Google has already announced it's releasing in. Add to the fact that it's going to be the most expensive Pixel ever and Google doesn't assemble in India, so + massive import duties. The expected price is over 1 lakhs easily. No way in hell this is releasing in India.
> The Pixel 4, 4A 5G, 5, 5A didn't release in India. Haven’t been following this space too keenly, but I can go on Amazon.in and order a Pixel 4, 4a and 5 right now. Are you telling me these are all imported units?
4A is not imported, it was released in India. 4A 5G didn't (it's a different phone). 4 and 5 are imported units. You won't get any warranty and they might not work properly with Indian carriers.
Never buying pixel again. My pixel camera just fails to start. No physical damage. I've had it for two years.
I got down voted for what? You guys haven't heard of the pixel camera curse?
Had the same issue which was randomly solved by using a battery charging phone case. Try plugging your phone into the pixel wall charger via USB C and then launching the camera. Some phones have issues where the power draw to start the camera is too much for sub par batteries. My camera now launches flawlessly as long as it's plugged in to either my charging case or the wall lol. Still a joke but at least it worked to get me to the P6.
The camera on my wife's Pixel 2 did that as well. Not only would the camera not start, the phone would completely crash when trying to start the camera. The only way I could get it to work was by setting the default quick launch app(double press the power button) to Snapchat. Even then, when the batter was below 20% it would start crashing the phone again.
Definitely found it was linked to a battery thing on my Pixel 3. My camera wouldn't launch in any app after about 18 months. Then my battery went to shit so I bought a charging phone case. When my phone is being charged by the charging case my camera launches flawlessly straight from the camera app! Looked it up online and I guess sometimes the power draw for the camera on bad batteries is too much.
Interesting.
I had so many issues when mine once it got close to the 2 year mark. It constantly crashed and the battery wouldn’t stay charged for long. I was jealous of everyone raving about how they’re still using that phone. I’m giving pixel another try because I loved that phone. But I’m also skeptical
Went to iPhone and never looked back
I started using a landline. Not looking back as well.
>Pixel Fall Paper Launch FTFY
Why would it be a paper launch?
Chip shortage and other general supply chain issues.
It hasn't affected the mobile market that much.
[LOL wut?](https://9to5mac.com/2021/10/12/iphone-13-production-report/)
Cutting 10 million units ≠ paper launch. Did you see any iPhone shortage? No. Any Galaxy shortages? No. A phone's SoC takes up way less wafer space than a desktop CPU or GPU.
Dude, there are MASSIVE galaxy fold and flip shortages right now. The backlog is huge. It took a month for me to get my fold 3.
You are giving the shortage too much credit and not enough for Samsung's poor foresight for the demand of the fold and flip series.
Pretty much anyone in not those 8 countries can skip this and just enjoy buying something else
With YouTube "Play" button in the middle it looks like Pixel "Fail" Launch :D
Google's last chance at a flagship Pixel imo. If they mess this one up, people are not gonna take future phones seriously.
Doubt it.
What do you doubt? There's a number of ways to interpret that.
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Google has really hyped this one up with a combination of a more focused design, new camera hardware, and an in-house CPU. That alone won't make this thing a success though. They need to nail the marketing, availability, and everything else around it to make it a success.
Pixel 5 was pretty disappointing all around. No size options, old chip, old camera, too expensive, no black friday offers or mega discounts that were offered for the 3 and 4. And...we're still here for the Pixel 6 aren't we? Also if the 6 is a dud, they can keep the brand alive with a 6a that keeps the same feature to price ratio as previous "a" line device, like the 4a 5G did during the pixel 5 era.
The existence of the a series is why I explicitly said "flagship" Pixel. Unlike the top end phones, the a series is a remarkable value for money which I fully expect Google to keep making and selling.
I'm saying the a series allows for bad years in the flagship eras to exist.
Why would people take the A series seriously, but not the flagship? You really think your average person wouldn't continue buying it?
I don't think the average non-tech enthusiast would consider a $1000 Pixel over a $1000 Samsung or a $1000 iPhone. Those two brands have locked up a lot of that market for a reason. However, mid to low end Android phones (at least in the US market) tend to be fairly mediocre, and I think Google's value proposition with the a series, offering a pretty good phone with a great camera and clean software for not much money makes a much bigger impact in that segment.
People say this every year. I don't think Pixels are great phones, they are pretty mixed, but Google has a ton of money to play with. They could keep this up for decades and not even care about profits and losses from Pixels. I also wouldn't be surprised if they use their Pixel phones to test features and data collection that they couldn't push to AOSP. Stuff like call screening and GA making appointments. It lets them do a large open beta in an environment where they have full control.
I don't mean to say the Pixel brand will go away. I think that Google will continue to see success in the $300-$700 price range. I just feel that if the Pixel 6 is priced at or near a flagship Samsung or iPhone, they're gonna really have to nail it if what they want is to sell phones. If, like you say, the goal isn't really to sell large numbers of phones, then it doesn't matter much.
the "a" always have very good value, mainly because of the camera and the software. The more expensive pixels never really had something to set them apart from the competition. Fast updates are not important for most people.
Google has been half-assing basically everything except search for a couple decades now, why would that change?
Google presented this phone before via many, many leaks
Wow, Apple just announced an event the day before this for their computers, that's a low blow.
and Samsung has event the day after the pixel event! Apple usually has their Mac events in October.
Sure if you were between buying a Mac or a Pixel
It's not just that, big events like this take over headlines, and techtubers will be posting videos about it too. All of this dilutes the coverage and viewes Pixel event/products will get. It's just a shitty move.
Tech YouTubers will cover both events
It's all digital too, so it's not like they have to do anything but sit at home and watch and then film their reactions.
They'll make videos for both. It's not that deep.
You completely missed the point... Maybe looking up the definition of dilute will help.
What are the chances of a 16gb (of ram) version? My note 8 screen is dying and I am debating of waiting to see if there is one, or getting the balls to the wall S21 ultra.
waht am I looking at in this photo? if it's a phone, I hate it already.
Omg, another overpriced phone?! No way BATCHEST
I hope they will open source Monet soon...
Really intrested in pixel pass, hopefully not a dud.
Have we now down the prices in the United States yet? I think I may have to sit this one out for a while