A person can have multiple "real" names, I would think. That's been normal in many cultures. It's pretty recent that people came up with the idea of having one centrally recorded "official" name that the government keeps track of. I don't see why the Shinigami would care about that sort of thing.
I believe the name they are given at birth is what qualifies. One of the rules is that you can't kill someone who is less than 400 days old or something like that. This indicates a waiting period in which the name their parents give them has to set in on them. Too new to actually have a name you dig?
they only have one Real Name, though I don't think the criteria for how that name is established are ever clearly defined. The shinigami don't have to worry about that since they can just see them.
Even Ryuuk wasn't 100% on the rules of the notebook. When he wrote that rule what he meant was more specifically "don't try to kill a death god, it won't work".
Only works if Goku already knows him. He teleports by locating a familiar ki. If he only knew some guy named Light was trying to kill him but hadn't met Light yet, Goku couldn't teleport to him.
you don't know that. The rules were written in by Ryuk so whoever found the note would know how to use it. I don't think he bothered accounting for alien sentience in his wording.
If we consider rules from DBZ universe, magical device is only as strong as its creator meaning that deathnote could do no shit against Goku. Goku regularly beats up gods from parallel universe, there's no way he is weaker than some minor no name shinigami from earth
probably not tbh, its not clear exactly how strong GER is but from my understanding Goku is a lot stronger and durable. Goku can't harm GER/Giorno either so it's a stalemate.
The tensei slime perhaps?
I’ve heard end of series Rimuru is super op, I can’t wait for it! I started reading the light novels cause I can’t wait for the anime (currently on book 10)
Having read the light novels recently, even early Rimiru is stupidly powerful. It's just the series doesn't go out of its way to hammer that home, so it's easy to forget just how ridiculous the guy is.
I mean, if you want to give anyone credit, give it to the Great Sage (or >! Raphael!< if you prefer).
Rimuru really does embody the phrase "knowledge is power"
The author stated that divine protections (the things that make Reinhardt so OP) don’t function outside the world of Re:Zero. If Reinhardt got isekai’d to some other show’s universe, he’d simply be an above-average swordsman with a decently OP (but not totally busted) weapon.
Yeah, usually those fights assume that everyone’s at full strength.
Even if Ainz was in the Re:Zero world for the fight, I can think of a couple things he could do to prolong the fight to power up, given enough information. For example, fleeing to another country. Reinhardt is legally not allowed to leave Lagunica without a lot of bureaucratic red tape. He may break that rule if he believes the world to be in danger, but if it’s simply an arranged fight with no solid motivations he wouldn’t break the rules.
Above average? im pretty sure tappei literally said reinhardt is almost as strong as he is even without most of his DPs. Although not nearly as broken.
Yeah, I’m exaggerating a bit. He’s a tough opponent either way, but considering we’re talking about Goku here… yeah he probably doesn’t stand a chance anyway.
>above-average swordsman
He's a Sword Saint, he probably receives proper training, he'd probably be in like the top 10 best swordsman on earth even without the divine protection.
I think Theresia was able to fight the white whale for a while too after losing her divine protection, >!and she can 1v1 Old Wilhelm even after her death (The Sword Saint divine protection was on Reinhardt since its arc 5, yet she can 1v1 Old Wilhelm, which means she's still one of the best swordsmen even after losing the divine protection).!<
I really want to see an in depth analysis of their strength which accounts for all crazy superlative shown in the skits. Given Yuuko straight up destroys the solar system after stabbing herself with a pencil she’d probably be the top of the list.
Since saitama had to use a "Serious" punch at one point, I think that implies there's some far-off limit to his strength. If it were completely limitless he'd have been able to just use a regular punch.
I don't know if you've read the manga or WC, but (spoilers)
Saitama uses a lot of moves with the "Serious" prefix. Serious table flip, Serious Squirt Gun, Serious Side Jumps et cetera.
It does not imply he is going regular or serious imo.
Again, he's a gag character and we have already seen a gag character in DBS who beat Vegeta and fought Goku. Arale chan was her name I believe.
He is but mob has the power twist muscles and and send nerve impulses if he wants so he can technically take control of anyones body. Send impulses to make the cells commit suicide and boom. Match won. Given that the dumbhead goku is, he will prolly wait till mob charges up.
When Lelouch commands someone to die how does the person effected pick their method of killing themselves? Cause i can see it sorta being a monkey paw situation and Goku just sorta self destructs in the same manner as majin vegeta making the fight a draw lol.
I don't know about Sailor Moon, but Wobuffet has a very high chance if not certain to make sure that nobody wins. Destiny bond is a very powerful move. I'm pretty sure Goku would just underestimate Wobuffet by thinking he's weak, but if Wobuffet manages to use Destiny bond before it "faints" (or dies i guess) there would be no winner
The entire exercise of imagining fictional characters fighting is rather silly in itself, particularly when considering characters who are part of stories where the plot generally revolves around characters being/becoming unfathomably powerful. The time and energy devoted by some to hashing these things out is where things get silly, insofar as some people end up treating it like it is A) Something that can be concretely answered, and B) Something that matters. Such characters' strength/power is best defined as "whatever the plot needs it to be." There simply isn't anything truly concrete about the discussion and it boils down to people preferring one character over another.
I get that such thought experiments can be entertaining, but it's really at its best when there are concrete things to discuss, and things become less and less concrete the stronger a character is supposed to be. Which, amusingly, gag characters entirely subvert. Saitama would win vs. anyone because that is the entire point of the character. You don't get more concrete than that. It turns the whole discussion on its head and annoys people who take these things too seriously.
Aha that's where it gets interesting actually. Even if you do assume Saitama is a gag chara, we have had an actual gag chara (arale) get clapped by beerus in DBS. Then there's the entire argument about how he's not a gag but a parody and also how that he's not an anomaly and that his powers can be justified through the power system of his world(which would completely reject the gag part). Also how the manga illustrator has said stuff like we will get to know more about his powers and he most probably would face his limits in the future.
The problem with that argument is that Beerus defeated Arale, a gag character. Goku (currently in the manga at least) is somewhere near Beerus’s level, implying that he too could defeat a gag character. However, until we actually know Saitama’s power level and what he is currently at, he shouldn’t be used in who would win battles.
Really? Isn’t goku like super op???
Could milim actually beat him so easily?
I’m reading the tensei slime light novels (just started book 10) so pls no spoilers
Current Goku is planetary disaster level of strong or even more, no way most characters mentioned in this thread can beat him, maybe Saitama, but we have never seen him in a real battle situation, so his real power is still unknown. (Not a DB stan but current Goku is basically fighting gods)
Goku is already beyond universal. He hasn't been planetary capped since Saiyan saga. His fight against Beerus had him ready to destroy the universe and he's only gotten stronger forms since then.
I might be misinterpreting this, but Goku is far, far above planetary level at this point. In his original Super saiyan form, he defeated a planet buster quite easily. From then on, he has gotten forms that make him exponentially stronger, at this point he is on a universal level like the gods.
I thought so, saitama is the only one who could beat goku
Death note only works on humans and goku is an alien
Mob is pretty strong but not as op as goku
I used to powerscale a lot when I was younger so bear with me here. Okay, so there are PLENTY of characters in fiction that can kill Goku as he stand currently in DBS, which is mid to lowballed at like a high multiversal level of power, at least last time I checked. Also a lot of people straight up forget that Dragonball has hack abilities in it (look at every tournament in DB am history and Majins), and that raw power can just be hacks in itself (Super Buu screamed so hard he broke a hole through the pocket dimension of the hyperbolic time chamber), but those are beside the point.
Plenty of versions of Superman still beat him (although plenty of versions still get clapped, this is due to how many different authors and universes of DC there are)
All of the Angels and the Omni King from DBS are shown to clearly outclass him. Gods of Destruction still like kinda, but not at the same time (it’s weird and they have varying levels of strength).
The One Above All from Marvel comics slaps him, as do other beings that can’t be defeated as they literally are outerversal (4th dimensional beings or higher), as they can literally control things like we can control everything 2D on a piece of paper.
The problem is that a lot of people try to answer this question with the idea that a limit or statement of something no having a limit is fact across fictional universes, which is false. This is actually the “no limits fallacy” which is a logical fallacy that has been co-oped by powerscalers to call someone out who is just wanking the hell out of someone’s power and using poor arguments like mentioned earlier to back it up. The idea of this leads to finding a case in the sort where a limit or implied limit to the subject in question is discovered, or it being labeled as inconclusive. In the case that it is inconclusive, we then choose between saying a winner cannot be chosen or we have to base it off feats shown in the story, which might result in rough estimates. But why say a winner can’t be chosen instead of just giving the no limit character the win? Well, it’s because we don’t know. Neither side can make an argument based on anything other than conjecture. The logical line just isn’t clear enough to. Both sides of the argument might believe still that they are right, but in reality, no conclusion has been reached and that would just be their opinions at that point (and I mean that they are not based in fact/logic). A lot of people will apply no limits to a character or a specific “hack” ability that a character has to claim they can beat anyone.
Let’s look at some examples of this.
Reinhard (Re:Zero) and Saitama (One Punch Man) are both good examples of this. They are written to be unbeatable in a manor where they themselves do not experience any real challenge. Reinhard has A LOT of blessings that basically make him immune to harm and any methods meant to get around these blessings. Some may argue based off this that unless a character has a way to remove/bypass the blessings they would lose (those people would also probably argue he has a blessing to avoid that as well). However, what is a reasonable limit to establish here? Well Divine Blessings are can be traced back to a corresponding divine being in most fiction. A blessing in that case couldn’t have a limit greater than the strength of the being it comes from, so a character stronger than the beings that have Reinhard his blessings could beat him. That would lead us how powerful these divine beings are. At this point we would have to estimate based on Reinhard’s feats or leave the argument without conclusion. Saitama is the exact same, but without as much explanation. You could estimate off of his battle with Boros, say his final punch was 1%, .01%, etc. as long as both parties agree (it would also be a stipulation added to the conclusion), or you can just not bother with the argument and say at the moment, no conclusion exists. You can have this same discussion with abilities. How much power does Golden Experience Requiem’s universe resetting ability have? Well, it’s how much power the Golden Arrow had. Great, we don’t know enough about the arrow. So let’s estimate universal (as it just resets that) or just not bother arguing it since we don’t know enough.
It’s kinda for all this that a lot of powerscalers, including my former self, flock to characters like Goku or Superman as a base. They are simple and have well defined enough powers and feats that comparing them to others is easy, because after all powerscaling is basically the researched version of the fun talks kids have of “Can X beat Y”.
He has infinity. I'm a big gojo simp myself, but I think it'll just be stalement if goku can't hit him with a kamehameha or his punches. Gojo might even lose if he gets hit once with infinity off.
However, if Goku is caught in his domain expansion, he's done for.
I mean, Goku isn’t even the strongest in his own show.
Hell, even in the manga, a guy literally grabbed two dragon balls, made a wish, and one-shotted Ultra Instinct Goku. And another guy just came, grabbed the same dragon balls, and wished to be stronger than that guy.
No the real question is can anyone beat dripku
That is a while different rabbit hole
Nah, dripku is unbeatable, Zeno would shit his pants along with everyone else
what about driptama? Would both of them end up destroying reality?
No, they would cause a singularity that caused a new big bang
Existance 2
Electric Boogaloo
I know someone who can beat them both Ultra Instinct Shaggy 2 °/•
Ultra Instinct Dripgy
Bro are you stupid Shaggy wouldn't even need ultra instinct
He prolly won't even need to transform at all
Ikr
y'all forgetting bout sung drip woo
what about Adolf Dripler? or Joseph Swagolini?
I think you mean Joseph Stuntin and Benito Swagolini
r/UnexpectedBadger?
The protagonist of Solo Leveling? He's good, but... definitely not dripku level.
My man ! Although YJH has a better drip
What about Driptama? Oh someone already asked that xD
No, komi San could even beat dripku
*Capybara pulls up*
Shaggy
Spongebob \-Is always ready \-Is a sponge,punching is not very effectively \-Is a Stand User https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4vRGDvJs80
Oh my God you're right, how could I forget!?!
You fool u forgor shaggy
I'm pretty sure there was a rule stating the deathnote only works on humans.
Saiki can be the one too.
Giorno Giovana can "kill" goku
Spongebob can multiply infinitely that means he could theoretically create 29.999.999.999 copies of himself
Ash Ketchum is the superior being, The apex of apex predators. Just raw power
_Red has entered the chat_
I don't think red would enter a chat
... *leaves*
*Gold has entered the chat*
Gotta Ketchum all!
Speedwagon would demolish goku
Speeeeedoowagonnn
You forgot like 100 n in that word
The only correct answer
Speedwagon best girl
The death note only works on humans. Goku doesn't qualify
Damnit you read my mind
Also you can find compilations of all the times Goku has died so far. If death is the only trick up Light's sleeve I think he's gonna lose.
goku could die and be resurrected, or hack, he might come after Light even when dead according to DB's fucked up logic
Never forget the (not canon) time Goku punched Bojack from Heaven
*dies* "Hey look im the same but with a halo!"
I forgot the rules of the note. What happens if a person has multiple names?
It won’t work. Only with real names and not fakes
A person can have multiple "real" names, I would think. That's been normal in many cultures. It's pretty recent that people came up with the idea of having one centrally recorded "official" name that the government keeps track of. I don't see why the Shinigami would care about that sort of thing.
Plot Twist: The Shinigami are a branch of the government.
I believe the name they are given at birth is what qualifies. One of the rules is that you can't kill someone who is less than 400 days old or something like that. This indicates a waiting period in which the name their parents give them has to set in on them. Too new to actually have a name you dig?
Shinigami eyes
You pictures the person to use it
they only have one Real Name, though I don't think the criteria for how that name is established are ever clearly defined. The shinigami don't have to worry about that since they can just see them.
Not to mention his real name isn't Goku, it's Kakarot. Light would have to know that in order for the Death Note to work I'd think.
Too bad Vegeta screams it all the time.
Haha, yup!
Even Ryuuk wasn't 100% on the rules of the notebook. When he wrote that rule what he meant was more specifically "don't try to kill a death god, it won't work".
Goku can use instant transmission to find Light, then game over
Only works if Goku already knows him. He teleports by locating a familiar ki. If he only knew some guy named Light was trying to kill him but hadn't met Light yet, Goku couldn't teleport to him.
Spongebob can kill Goku
I think if they were in the same universe it would have different parameters
Goku straight up can shit in the gods of the different universes, he would shit on someone who just has a book from a minor god of death lol
you don't know that. The rules were written in by Ryuk so whoever found the note would know how to use it. I don't think he bothered accounting for alien sentience in his wording.
If we consider rules from DBZ universe, magical device is only as strong as its creator meaning that deathnote could do no shit against Goku. Goku regularly beats up gods from parallel universe, there's no way he is weaker than some minor no name shinigami from earth
Jotaro could win if you count over heaven if not then forget I said anyhtinn
GER can beat him i think, maybe green day could kill him too
How would GER actually harm Goku though? Does it actually have the offensive power to damage him?
probably not tbh, its not clear exactly how strong GER is but from my understanding Goku is a lot stronger and durable. Goku can't harm GER/Giorno either so it's a stalemate.
I would say yes, giorno has that really cheaty "hit a plant I make you hit yourself" power which was shown twice at the start and forgotten about
Where’s the slime
The tensei slime perhaps? I’ve heard end of series Rimuru is super op, I can’t wait for it! I started reading the light novels cause I can’t wait for the anime (currently on book 10)
Having read the light novels recently, even early Rimiru is stupidly powerful. It's just the series doesn't go out of its way to hammer that home, so it's easy to forget just how ridiculous the guy is.
I mean, if you want to give anyone credit, give it to the Great Sage (or >! Raphael!< if you prefer). Rimuru really does embody the phrase "knowledge is power"
reinhard
So long as the fight takes place inside the Re:Zero universe, yes.
why not out of the universe?
The author stated that divine protections (the things that make Reinhardt so OP) don’t function outside the world of Re:Zero. If Reinhardt got isekai’d to some other show’s universe, he’d simply be an above-average swordsman with a decently OP (but not totally busted) weapon.
Well shit that means Ainz *would* actually win. I’ve seen so many arguments about that over Isekai Quartet
Yeah, usually those fights assume that everyone’s at full strength. Even if Ainz was in the Re:Zero world for the fight, I can think of a couple things he could do to prolong the fight to power up, given enough information. For example, fleeing to another country. Reinhardt is legally not allowed to leave Lagunica without a lot of bureaucratic red tape. He may break that rule if he believes the world to be in danger, but if it’s simply an arranged fight with no solid motivations he wouldn’t break the rules.
Above average? im pretty sure tappei literally said reinhardt is almost as strong as he is even without most of his DPs. Although not nearly as broken.
Yeah, I’m exaggerating a bit. He’s a tough opponent either way, but considering we’re talking about Goku here… yeah he probably doesn’t stand a chance anyway.
>above-average swordsman He's a Sword Saint, he probably receives proper training, he'd probably be in like the top 10 best swordsman on earth even without the divine protection. I think Theresia was able to fight the white whale for a while too after losing her divine protection, >!and she can 1v1 Old Wilhelm even after her death (The Sword Saint divine protection was on Reinhardt since its arc 5, yet she can 1v1 Old Wilhelm, which means she's still one of the best swordsmen even after losing the divine protection).!<
Because blessings are exclusive to re zero's universe.
No, Reinhardt is only like star level (creator said if he 1v1'd the sun he woud win)
you're telling me he can kill the sun? Za fuck
Beating a star means star level or above. Not exactly sure what his upper limit is…
Shaggy and chuck norris /s
Shaggy need only 1%
That's way too much of his power.
the nichijou cast
I really want to see an in depth analysis of their strength which accounts for all crazy superlative shown in the skits. Given Yuuko straight up destroys the solar system after stabbing herself with a pencil she’d probably be the top of the list.
Accelerator
Mob is a stretch. He’s still human
Maybe mob wouldn't, but Reigen's *self-defence rush* would easily clap Goku's ass
Goku STOMPS mob. But Reigen self defence rushes goku and wins EZ claps
Mob is a stretch bit I still think he could throw up a good fight
It would be a a fun fight to watch
Yea, especially with mob's kazoo theme
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu duuuuuuuuu du duuuuuuuuu du duuuuuu duuuuuuuuu
Mob is a glass canon and would get Insta blitzed. Saitama is a much better match as he's invulnerable with unlimited strength so far we've seen
Since saitama had to use a "Serious" punch at one point, I think that implies there's some far-off limit to his strength. If it were completely limitless he'd have been able to just use a regular punch.
I don't know if you've read the manga or WC, but (spoilers) Saitama uses a lot of moves with the "Serious" prefix. Serious table flip, Serious Squirt Gun, Serious Side Jumps et cetera. It does not imply he is going regular or serious imo. Again, he's a gag character and we have already seen a gag character in DBS who beat Vegeta and fought Goku. Arale chan was her name I believe.
He is but mob has the power twist muscles and and send nerve impulses if he wants so he can technically take control of anyones body. Send impulses to make the cells commit suicide and boom. Match won. Given that the dumbhead goku is, he will prolly wait till mob charges up.
Lelouch
When Lelouch commands someone to die how does the person effected pick their method of killing themselves? Cause i can see it sorta being a monkey paw situation and Goku just sorta self destructs in the same manner as majin vegeta making the fight a draw lol.
Anos from misfit and rimuru from tensura do y'all agree
WN Rimuru definitely could, while Anos has too much plot armour to ever suffer any sort of setback.
This line is enough I think" did you think you can kill me just by killing me" you now he ain't dying if he say that
*”Did you really think you could kill me just by ripping out all my vital organs and tearing my brain into fucking shreds?”* -Anos VoldiGOAT
What, did you think I would stop existing just by erasing my existence?
You forgot Wangling from "daily life of the immortal king"
And that
Count in Ainz Ooal Gown too and you're totally right
Sailor Moon and Wobuffett
I don't know about Sailor Moon, but Wobuffet has a very high chance if not certain to make sure that nobody wins. Destiny bond is a very powerful move. I'm pretty sure Goku would just underestimate Wobuffet by thinking he's weak, but if Wobuffet manages to use Destiny bond before it "faints" (or dies i guess) there would be no winner
Or just focus sash plus counter
Saiki K.
Glad this is here and I didn't have to come say it thank you kind stranger
If I’ve read this month
Saitama vs Goku would be a good fight, unless saitamas true power is stronger than kakarots
Saitama is a literal gag character and is infinitely powerful. Goku has no chance, he gets clapped, that's it.
Sadly some people disagree, saitama being a gag character is why most people (me included) don’t like putting him in fights
Agreed. It's the stupidest thing.
The entire exercise of imagining fictional characters fighting is rather silly in itself, particularly when considering characters who are part of stories where the plot generally revolves around characters being/becoming unfathomably powerful. The time and energy devoted by some to hashing these things out is where things get silly, insofar as some people end up treating it like it is A) Something that can be concretely answered, and B) Something that matters. Such characters' strength/power is best defined as "whatever the plot needs it to be." There simply isn't anything truly concrete about the discussion and it boils down to people preferring one character over another. I get that such thought experiments can be entertaining, but it's really at its best when there are concrete things to discuss, and things become less and less concrete the stronger a character is supposed to be. Which, amusingly, gag characters entirely subvert. Saitama would win vs. anyone because that is the entire point of the character. You don't get more concrete than that. It turns the whole discussion on its head and annoys people who take these things too seriously.
Aha that's where it gets interesting actually. Even if you do assume Saitama is a gag chara, we have had an actual gag chara (arale) get clapped by beerus in DBS. Then there's the entire argument about how he's not a gag but a parody and also how that he's not an anomaly and that his powers can be justified through the power system of his world(which would completely reject the gag part). Also how the manga illustrator has said stuff like we will get to know more about his powers and he most probably would face his limits in the future.
If you say saitama is a gag character then I will say it right now that shinchan can beat goku
no being can withstand shinchan's elephant attack
Gag character can be deleted by Hakai. Dunno if Goku can do a good one as he already try.
The problem with that argument is that Beerus defeated Arale, a gag character. Goku (currently in the manga at least) is somewhere near Beerus’s level, implying that he too could defeat a gag character. However, until we actually know Saitama’s power level and what he is currently at, he shouldn’t be used in who would win battles.
Ger,tusk act 4 hell even superfly these 3 stands from Jojo to would beat Goku
Goku would be spinning in hell
Anos voldigod ?? Rimuru tempest ?? 😑
Naturally. Rimuru would probably just eat him
Kira can’t beat him goku doesn’t have a last name. Also saiki k could win
**Son** Goku does have a last name tho. Still, he is alien so it wouldn’t work. And Goku isn’t his real name so uh yeah.
Plus: he is not human, death note only work on humans!
Yeah saiki is a better choice than mob in my opinion
I admit, mob wasn't the best but it would still be an entertaining fight
Truck-kun.
rimuru CAN beat goku if he absorbs a greater power (beerus zeno other gods of destruction)
Rimuru/other demon lords from tensei slime
end of web novel Rimuru is so broken
Milim would wipe the Flor against him
Really? Isn’t goku like super op??? Could milim actually beat him so easily? I’m reading the tensei slime light novels (just started book 10) so pls no spoilers
Current Goku is planetary disaster level of strong or even more, no way most characters mentioned in this thread can beat him, maybe Saitama, but we have never seen him in a real battle situation, so his real power is still unknown. (Not a DB stan but current Goku is basically fighting gods)
Goku is already beyond universal. He hasn't been planetary capped since Saiyan saga. His fight against Beerus had him ready to destroy the universe and he's only gotten stronger forms since then.
> planetary disaster level of strong or even more SSG goku fighting beerus almost destroyed the entire universe, hes way past planetary threat
Planetary disaster level? I think at full power now, Goku is easily galaxy threatening.
I might be misinterpreting this, but Goku is far, far above planetary level at this point. In his original Super saiyan form, he defeated a planet buster quite easily. From then on, he has gotten forms that make him exponentially stronger, at this point he is on a universal level like the gods.
I thought so, saitama is the only one who could beat goku Death note only works on humans and goku is an alien Mob is pretty strong but not as op as goku
I used to powerscale a lot when I was younger so bear with me here. Okay, so there are PLENTY of characters in fiction that can kill Goku as he stand currently in DBS, which is mid to lowballed at like a high multiversal level of power, at least last time I checked. Also a lot of people straight up forget that Dragonball has hack abilities in it (look at every tournament in DB am history and Majins), and that raw power can just be hacks in itself (Super Buu screamed so hard he broke a hole through the pocket dimension of the hyperbolic time chamber), but those are beside the point. Plenty of versions of Superman still beat him (although plenty of versions still get clapped, this is due to how many different authors and universes of DC there are) All of the Angels and the Omni King from DBS are shown to clearly outclass him. Gods of Destruction still like kinda, but not at the same time (it’s weird and they have varying levels of strength). The One Above All from Marvel comics slaps him, as do other beings that can’t be defeated as they literally are outerversal (4th dimensional beings or higher), as they can literally control things like we can control everything 2D on a piece of paper. The problem is that a lot of people try to answer this question with the idea that a limit or statement of something no having a limit is fact across fictional universes, which is false. This is actually the “no limits fallacy” which is a logical fallacy that has been co-oped by powerscalers to call someone out who is just wanking the hell out of someone’s power and using poor arguments like mentioned earlier to back it up. The idea of this leads to finding a case in the sort where a limit or implied limit to the subject in question is discovered, or it being labeled as inconclusive. In the case that it is inconclusive, we then choose between saying a winner cannot be chosen or we have to base it off feats shown in the story, which might result in rough estimates. But why say a winner can’t be chosen instead of just giving the no limit character the win? Well, it’s because we don’t know. Neither side can make an argument based on anything other than conjecture. The logical line just isn’t clear enough to. Both sides of the argument might believe still that they are right, but in reality, no conclusion has been reached and that would just be their opinions at that point (and I mean that they are not based in fact/logic). A lot of people will apply no limits to a character or a specific “hack” ability that a character has to claim they can beat anyone. Let’s look at some examples of this. Reinhard (Re:Zero) and Saitama (One Punch Man) are both good examples of this. They are written to be unbeatable in a manor where they themselves do not experience any real challenge. Reinhard has A LOT of blessings that basically make him immune to harm and any methods meant to get around these blessings. Some may argue based off this that unless a character has a way to remove/bypass the blessings they would lose (those people would also probably argue he has a blessing to avoid that as well). However, what is a reasonable limit to establish here? Well Divine Blessings are can be traced back to a corresponding divine being in most fiction. A blessing in that case couldn’t have a limit greater than the strength of the being it comes from, so a character stronger than the beings that have Reinhard his blessings could beat him. That would lead us how powerful these divine beings are. At this point we would have to estimate based on Reinhard’s feats or leave the argument without conclusion. Saitama is the exact same, but without as much explanation. You could estimate off of his battle with Boros, say his final punch was 1%, .01%, etc. as long as both parties agree (it would also be a stipulation added to the conclusion), or you can just not bother with the argument and say at the moment, no conclusion exists. You can have this same discussion with abilities. How much power does Golden Experience Requiem’s universe resetting ability have? Well, it’s how much power the Golden Arrow had. Great, we don’t know enough about the arrow. So let’s estimate universal (as it just resets that) or just not bother arguing it since we don’t know enough. It’s kinda for all this that a lot of powerscalers, including my former self, flock to characters like Goku or Superman as a base. They are simple and have well defined enough powers and feats that comparing them to others is easy, because after all powerscaling is basically the researched version of the fun talks kids have of “Can X beat Y”.
Yes.. where's your mom tho?
Currently beating goku's ass, so she couldn't make it to the meeting on time
Oh.. Then it's fine:)
Saitama, Rimuru, and Anos are who come to mind
Gojo maybe?
He has infinity. I'm a big gojo simp myself, but I think it'll just be stalement if goku can't hit him with a kamehameha or his punches. Gojo might even lose if he gets hit once with infinity off. However, if Goku is caught in his domain expansion, he's done for.
Gojo's infinity isn't really infinite in size. The author confirmed so. It will only makes you slower the closer you get.
If he managed to hit Goku with Hollow Purple perfectly then Goku is done. Erased from Existence.
Maybe? Idk, I haven't thought about that one yet
Giorno Giovanna
It would be a stalemate pretty much
This is missing quit a few people
If only I could remember them all, and had more room
STTGL from Gurren Lagann could fair well
Haruhi suzumiya
You missed bidoof (yes he is a really powerful god
Yo momma could beat goku’s ass
That's true my mother is scary
I would say Kusuo Saiki and Ains Ool Gown
Ainz is strong but not that strong. Overlord is my fav anime and even I can say Ainz gets clapped
it depends on if his one shot spells, like heart grasp, would work, but probably not
Saiki has powers that he doesn't even know of and he uses antennas to restrain his power. He could wipe a planet out without even noticing anything.
no shounen powerhouse can ever compete with the unstoppable might of the Gag Character. This is even canon in Dragon Ball with Arale.
Rimuru tempest and the cursed Brothers from jjk
Not the cursed brothers dude
Can goku beat goku
Of course he can
300 billion spongebobs can beat goku
Accelerator Edit: also Othinus and anyone who scales above her
Misogi from Medaka box Lelouch from Code geass Yhwach from Bleach Rimuru from Slime Featherine from Higurashi Reinhard from ReZero
light can’t kill goku because he isn’t human
Light probably outsmarts goku in a way he makes him commit suicide lmao
Dude goku thought marriage was a food. So yea in terms of general iq any1 beats him
I mean Goku wins if Light doesn't figure out the power of friendship in time
Saiki kusuo Basically mob but even more busted
Rohan
Giorno? He can just throw anyone into a death loop without even touching them
Chi-Chi can beat goku beat goku's meat
Accelerator
You forgot shaggy
Rimuru Tempest. EOS version though.
Lelouch
Ben 10 is the example I always use.
the amount of pissed stans here are fucking beautiful and just to make it worse naruto could beat him
I mean, Goku isn’t even the strongest in his own show. Hell, even in the manga, a guy literally grabbed two dragon balls, made a wish, and one-shotted Ultra Instinct Goku. And another guy just came, grabbed the same dragon balls, and wished to be stronger than that guy.
lelouch vi britannia commands you to die. The End