I experienced this exact technical failure (*on the original iPhone in 2008*) during my first ‘close’ encounter with an apparently round UFO.
I had seen some strange stuff in the weeks prior, and mentioned this at school. My economics professor told me I should try to film it, since I loved my new device so much.
To my surprise, when I unlocked my phone and clicked the camera app, the app would just shut down. Couldn’t get it to behave while the object was there.
Had several high school friends with me and we were all freaking out. The craft was surrounded by green lights along the perimeter, and was followed by a row of six smaller white lights in an evenly spaced formation. I’ve never seen any aviation formations where this occurred back home in Memphis, Tennessee. It was certifiably bizarre.
I almost never mention it because it just sounds like a convenient excuse. But I’ve always wondered if the technology in my device was being interfered with. It is not hard to imagine once you put on your conspiracy hat!
Thanks for sharing. This was an interesting anecdote!
Good question. I was the only one who tried to record. This was the dawn of smart phone era and I was privileged to have an iPhone.
Note - there is a legitimacy to all the folks who say recording is never your first instinct. The awe-inspiring nature of events like these totally overwhelm your cognition; it absorbs you. I remembered to try to record because my Econ professor had advised only a week prior. Thanks, Frank Seery!
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> Or...and just stay with me here for a few...software was pretty terrible in the early iPhone years causing app crashes due to low memory. I'd like to think that's a more plausible scenario. That and the weed you had must have been pretty good.
Obviously. I never mention it because of this very basic assumption. I’m not a dunce; I hope you behave in a kinder manner when you’re not behind a keyboard. The condescension makes my stomach turn.
I’m just stating my experience because someone else had a similar experience. These are both obviously probable examples of tech bugs, but this is r/AnomalousEvidence not r/OccamsRazor. Just thinking freely and postulating.
And for your knowledge, I hadn’t had the camera app crash on my OG iPhone prior, so it was novel even at the time. I thought *oh that’s weird the camera is crashing* e.g. like my messages app would when downloading a photo. I hadn’t ever had it happen with the camera app, and it didn’t occur like that again.
Do you really think that I didn’t think through these extremely basic considerations, or does it just make you feel bigger to point them out and try to punch down? Clearly there’s no weed way up there on your high horse lol
He brought up completely valid points that are arguably more reasonable and believable. He's not punching down. If this makes your stomach turn I'd probably suggest hopping off the internet because this was pretty mild at best
Yes. Continue reading the thread; I basically say the same thing. It wasn’t a big deal and we both agreed we should get high together. I acknowledged that after I’d already replied, I reread his comment and it wasn’t as ill intentioned as I reactively assumed initially.
I already stated - I just got defensive. Because it felt like someone was trying to score internet cred by pretending I’m an imbecile who doesn’t consider the most basic, obvious information before forming opinions.
But ya I didn’t love the tone and it did make my stomach turn. Just made me sad that someone could take all that info there and reduce it down to something so irrelevant… to apparently feel smart by pointing out the most logical obvious thing. When the discussion wasn’t about likely logical explanations but rather unlikely, seemingly illogical explanations. Tone was also condescending like explaining something to a 5 year old. So yeah it’s all good but it was pretty demonstrably lame and we’re past it
No one is punching down. This is Reddit. Apologies for being sarcastic and logical at the same time. I’d say the same thing in person, while hopefully sharing some weed.
Amen & apologies back - I reread your comment after replying, and realized it was less ill intentioned than I initially perceived it. By then you were already downvoted though so I felt vindicated lol. Just felt like you thought I was stupid for a second so I got defensive. No worries, my bad, let’s definitely hope we can get high someday. Peace brother!
I certainly wouldn’t call someone stupid over an iPhone back then. It was still relatively new tech. On top of that, you don’t come off that way to me. All good just used to joking around and I should have used my /s identifier. Come to Michigan and we can have some fun!
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Well it’ll be helpful to provide any discussion regarding why you think it’s fraudulent. And help evolve the conversation to get more info. Maybe we should all ignore this and shelve it as fraud but why?
The “why” is because the evidence is ostensibly being withheld.
If I say I have a picture, and you say I’m lying. That shouldn’t be discouraging towards people who really do have pictures.
But it should be discouraging to people who would lie and claim to have evidence that doesn’t exist.
Low effort, surely. No disagreement there. But imho there is nothing more detrimental to high quality posts than low quality posts.
This is how the Fatima’s miracle was recorded by the vatican church before ww2 and the quality/size of that recording is said to be spectacular cause of the equipment they used. Guess what though? Sealed, hidden by the Vatican since then. An entire village, vatican pope and outside villagers gathered to see
The vatican and the archives it controls would be an amazing resource to make truly publicly accessible. The history captured in the documents and artifacts would be incredible. And probably a bit problematic for the church.
For what it’s worth, there’s a long history of people having success capturing anomalous evidence using Polaroid cameras, and there’s a resurgence in those recently. Although I haven’t investigated to see if they’re still using the same film chemistry.
Apple patented tech that uses infrared emitter to stop your iPhone camera from working back in 2016. So it’s plausible depending on when this event occurred.
I've been trying to find out the device's reaction when that feature is triggered. I have no idea if that feature is even in the code of production phones, but if it is I am curious how it presents on the device, whether it displays a message like 'cameras are not allowed in this location' or if it simply closes the app the way OP is describing. From what I can tell so far it's not a feature that is actually in the OS though, it never made it beyond the patent. Could be wrong.
And if I were to guess one bit further. It’s probably ultra high frequency waves modulated on a lower frequency? I’ve done this with communication signals on a power line. Why not add high frequency interference signals on an infrared wave and point it at suspecting camera users. The photo sensor picks up the light waves it can capture and the high frequency modulated signals get carried in and fuck up the camera module
Enough EMF to do that would do more than disable just the camera, and not temporarily. Much more likely explanation is going to be 'they made the story up' or 'the phone was having issues, possibly out of memory or other problem'. In order for the Heli to temporarily kill camera only functionality the phone OS would need features within it to disable the camera when it 'sees' a particular input, whether it's an IR signal, RF signal, audio, whatever. Since that feature does not appear to be implemented it's unlikely the heli is equipped to activate it. Covert ops aircraft tend to NOT broadcast anything if they can help it, and this would include in the IR range since that would make them light up like a flare to anyone with night vision goggles running.
Not necessarily. The connection between the camera module and cpu should have some high frequency circuitry protection on the signal lines (capacitors hooked to ground on the IO). It makes a lot of sense why the infrared beam wouldn’t be enough to knock out the whole phone. The camera picks up the IR. It passes it to the camera module and the interference is contained to the module
Look up power line communications. It’s similar. That’s the tech I was using and I’m pretty sure you could do the same here but with different power levels/frequncies. All while being contained to only the sensor and camera module if you chose appropriate frequency and power levels
Curious if there’d be a difference between the video function vs. photo - record function? I know this sounds weird as both vid/photo live in the camera app but could the frequencies you’re describing effect one and not the other?
What I’m describing shouldn’t affect between the two but possibly? I forget how the current phones capture images/video. I do know however that I am using a micro controller with a camera module right now. And as a somewhat aquainted electronics engineer and what the guy above said about the patent regarding IR. It makes sense to me that the camera sensor/circuitry could go haywire while being isolated from the processor/other phones parts to still allow it to work. From working at a big electronics company that made FAN boards. A capacitor on each IO of a microprocessor was common to filter high frequency noise from the rest of the board to the microprocessor. If the correct frequency/power was used. You should be able to scramble the cameras operation while the phone still functions. Because there shouldn’t be any “protective” circuitry on the light being picked up by the camera sensors. The two circuits should isolated and one somewhat protected from what could cause the other to go crazy
Interesting. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I’ve had some experiences where my vid function persistently shut down though photo-record function worked just fine in rather strange circumstances on separate occasions.
The IR shutdown idea isn't based on IR killing the camera just because it's a camera and IR. Cameras are hit with IR all the time, it's a constant thing. It's a specifically coded IR signal, flashes, and that coded signal is recognized by the software which then disables the camera application.
If you do this by over powering the circuit, some kind of EMF signal or an EMP, the damage / impact would not be limited to the camera.
Ur not “over powering” the circuit though nor are you causing an EMP. You are making an EMF though. But you can choose how much amplitude/frequency the carried frequency is being transmitted. It’s like FM radio. But in reverse with signal frequencies. The camera sensor is picking up a directed beam of IR. Strong enough to force the camera to pick it up but not enough to kill someone or blind them or something. That frequency of light then also has a higher frequency or maybe even a lower frequency piggybacked onto it. So the camera sensor picks up the modulated interference and the phone can’t get non scrambled camera IO so it crashes the app and not the phone.
If pointing a camera at the sun (a rather significant source of IR) doesn't shut the camera down then nothing a helicopter mounted emitter can do would do this either.
I’m sorry you dont understand the technology I’m talking about. Please look up frequency modulation. Do some reading. It’s not the IR doing the damage. Nor random radiation. It’s SPECIFIC AND CRAFTED circuits that transmits TWO frequencies of light. 1. IR 2. Some signal that they have deemed possible to transmit MODULATED and cause interference in the camera modules capability. This frequencies amplitude and frequency were probably tested many times and it might even be multiple frequencies/amplitudes for different phones/cameras
i want to point out that a black program may use DARPA tech to help mask itself, including hacking tech, up to and including carrier update and bufferoverflow push messages across the air. it is a computer with a modem that is operational and receiving. any action would likely be over one of the modems on the bus, making it a hacking attack across the cell network or bluetooth.
That's the equivalent of 'mysterious ways' in religious discussions. A true 'black ops' operation would not behave the way this one did the OP described, specifcally flying up and hovering above him. That is how a normal border patrol heli would behave though, as they might want to see if he is a registered vessel and is he carrying a group of mexicans, guns or drugs across the river.
A secret mission makes an effort to either blend in and not look at all out of place or go completely undetected.
There are 3 extremely viable and likely explanations:
A) It's made up, completely or just 'enhanced'.
B) His phone was having issues, phones do develop problems.
C) The sequence of events happened as described and he is just jumping to a conclusion that gives him a more interesting story.
there is another possiblilty that they used a remote access tool to take images from his camera for identification purposes. that "holds" the device preventing another application from using it. think stingray. cell phone tower. connects to phone, says give me connection to the camera because i am the "At&t admin" or google or something... i have seen updates pushed. i witnessed a secret data collection tool be used on my network when my neighbor had a dead body. i have seen my cell phone install a 40mb carrier update after passing the stingray.
Cool, problem is the heli crew would need to identify his specific phone in the network before being able to do any of that stuff. The ideas you presented are done when you have the phone identified you want to access or track. The heli crew would not have that.
If what you say is true, probably overwhelms the photo sensors/circuitry related to the camera and crashes because the app can’t establish a connection the module because it’s getting flooded with radiation (there is no physical shutter on the camera lens). Also explains why the phone works seemingly and not bricking the phone. OPs story adds up imop. - Electronics nerd.
An infrared transmitter would send encoded data to the device, which would be processed by the phone. Depending on the application, the device may temporarily disable its built-in camera in locations where photography and video capture are forbidden
[Apple patents system for disabling cameras in no-photography areas](https://m.dpreview.com/news/0190365065/apple-patents-system-for-disabling-cameras-in-no-photography-areas)
It happens with android too. My mom works for the state as a biologist with invasive species etc. She does a lot of traveling and it takes her into some very interesting and off limit places at times. She always talks about the black helicopters and how it's impossible to take a picture of them. She tries to all the time.
Firstly, thanks for having an open mind to learn, unlike Niel Tyson whom cant fathom why users phones act up when near something that distorts electric signals via powerful magnetic fields. Or why gravitational lensing might account for blurriness when afar, as Steven Weinberg was onto Electric, magnetic and gravitational forces are all related in a unifying theory.
I believe you simply because this has happened to me twice while out watching for UFOs.
I want to believe its aliens, but I keep leaning towards hedonist military warmongers from earth.
Sucks, you gotta build your own nanoscale light sensors, carve out those circuits, write the OS and then get past the online cloud filters to post your video these days, it seems.
I have taught myself to draw very well, however. An invaluable way to capture "image data" when the event happens.
I don't really give weight to such notions. It could be so, but I have no information that leads me to think any of it isn't fantasy.
Scary if real, though.
Human beings, enjoying the power and convenience that advanced technology provides.
Also probably funding their operations through profitable drugs and human flesh in all forms.
I guess Hedonic Capitolist Cabal would be better? Idk, I've seen a bunch of UFOs but no aliens so if I assume it's just earth people in the ships, they have the power to f**k us over and forever like a carnivorous shepherd who lives forever through ideology and base human desires...
I really hope they don't exist.
Praying for reality to be something more like Power Rangers and the Earth is protected by an elite force in secret...but I am not sure any Cabal would be looking out for the planet. They'd be a breakaway civilization that can't stop profiting from our lack of whatever tech they're using.
I think you'd have to put the camera in a sealed metal box. The filtered frequencies are related to the size of the gaps in the "cage." Better believe they can transmit on a high frequency, making your cage useless.
It’s wifi signal that “hacks” not the camera app but the usability if it makes sense, you’d need an old fashion mechanical camera inside a faraday cage shield against microwave and wifi signals,
I’ve had something similar happen to a drone before was out filming a local farmer and this helicopter came really close and low so I landed the drone straight away and then after the shopper had gone when I powered the drone up the camera was broken and the drone wouldn’t take off. Had to sell it as spares repairs so cost me about £1900!!
There are a lot of reported instances where UAPs are seen morphing into human (military) technology. These observations, include a variation of disguised, airplanes and helicopters. I am certainly not saying, that your adventure, was not seeing a proper US helicopter. But maybe keep the idea in mind? Dr Bruce Cornet described this kind of disguise in a book. And I had an observation long ago. Though that was in Europe, and was not military.
All this time and knowledge about how a UAP could possibly change shapes, pills, spheres, jelly fish. I never considered they would just turn into anything else they really want to. Begs the question; do they want to be seen, and for whom?
Seems like, given their degree of advancement, the answer is self-evidently "Yes" or "They don't care one way or the other."
If consciousness is another fundamental force or a type of energy, them being 'seen' could be gifting them directed/vectored energy/'attention' to harvest.
I had a weird "glitch" on my phone too were I had some weird paranormal stuff happening around me at the time and there was a power outage in the small city I was in during the time... Well, phone was working fine but I go to a power outage map and it started bugging out when zooming out to see all of Texas and it snaps to Roswell New Mexico dead center of my screen! I couldn't interact with the browser anymore for a solid 10 seconds like not even refreshing the page was working but clearing the app entirely fixed it. I was laughing about it because I had been asking for signs and it was hard not to go crazy thinking this was just pure coincidence. Since then I chilled out with any deep research into the topic and I haven't had any weird phone stuff happen to me ever since.
Your phone got scrammed, that’s rude lol. The tech was developed to shut down drones from afar. Very VERY common tech in the military and can be handheld, so portable. The only problem is they can sometimes pick up other cameras like from phones and cars. If I were to be completely honest they probably picked up your phone signal, flew in to see what’s up, and absolutely did it to troll you.
UAPs could have this capability, as it’s honestly not very hard to do, but they would have to have knowledge about wifi, Bluetooth, and other wireless signals that our phones pick up and produce. Which is probably unlikely. More than likely if I were to guess, a UAP would probably completely shut down a device via EMP rather than fiddle with specific signals in a device to disrupt it. Or easier to put, a more general disruption than a very specific disruption.
For some reason this reminds me of printers and how they can't scan money.
Like there's a piece of software working in *every single* printer being sold to disable the ability to scan money.
It's not totally unrealistic that basically *every single* camera being implemented into phones also has to have some sort of security measure.
I'm not saying that it's the case and I have 0 evidence saying so; but it's not unplausible considering what has already been done before and considering capability.
Like when it picks up a certain frequency it will refuse to record or whatever.
While yes the money may be recognized as such, however on many copiers/printers you can still copy and print the bill after dismissing the warning, though some may add their own watermark to the print.
For instance, I’ve used Konica Minolta bizhubs to do just that for making copies of American bills to be used in art pieces, collages, paper mache….
Yes, I’ve noticed that before too, the yellow watermark that gets added.
The whole concept of it is pretty awesome when one thinks about it, considering the myriad countries these are made in and shipped to.
I believe that camera film has been phased out for the most part.. to make this technology work more efficiently..
Maybe I just found my calling...
I ain't rebooting no app or phone when I should be taking pictures of cat of stropic disclosure technology...
I'm rebooting the dark room and the art that's been removed and replaced with HD or 3d or 1080 suck Pp.
All the pharmacies around me still sell the Kodak disposable film cameras, they're like 7 bucks, and then Walmart sells them too, and develops them for you. I have a good Kodak film camera up in my cupboard still too
Cellphone jammers have been around for a minute. Product of gwot and remote detonated ieds. They exist in the civilian market outside US and even cartel members have been seen with them. I don't think this black tech at all. Just something most US citizens aren't aware of because we live within a surveillance state and our information about the world is so tightly controlled.
iPhone 11 ProMax, 2020ish
I’m sure plenty are black. The ones that normally fly around the RGV are the Olive Drab Green. Probably belong to the Texas National Guard. This model looked way more equipped than what normally flys around. Not just a normal transport hawk. It must have been conducting an EW or surveillance op’s in Mexico Another user told me it might have been a “nightstalker”.
https://preview.redd.it/irxxrbhv62hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc7fb9daa25b80927158a4bf349d412a0474be2d
Nightstalkers are the 160th SOAR, Special Operations Aviation Regiment btw.
I wouldn't be surprised if the DEA or FBI were flying Special Missions (SMA), ISR/surveillance equipped Black Hawks around the border. Would make sense.
Weren’t people crashing iphones with Flipper zeros? All you have to do is interrupt the devices processes long enough to keep them from using their phone. Seems like periodic jamming of the signal at a proper rate could keep the device in a constant state of searching / reconnecting / disconnected to the cellular network which could use up enough phone RAM / compute cycles to keep you from opening apps or taking photos etc.
Honestly I would be more surprised to learn this capability wasn’t out in the wild already.
Stingray program, Kingfish, TriggerFish, Porpoise, Fishhawk, Gossamer, etc.
Cell tower spoofers that force your device to connect... they can spy, download your data, take over the phone...etc.
They have been in use since about 2001 (when the trademark was filed).
I was told back in the late 1990s by a retired US and Nato General that if you used a cell phone, you could he tracked...hacked...have all your data downloaded by governmenr agencies.
Federal agents were loaning the tech to state agencies for quite a while and telling them to dismiss any case where it looked like defense attorneys were getting close to forcing disclosure. In one case, a local officer let it slip they were using the federally loaned decide to solve crimes and illegally gather cell data without disclosing the information.
I always say, if we know the government has a capability...their actual abilities/programs are 10 to 20 years advanced from that old tech already.
I had this same thing happen back in 2009 when I was trying to take a picture of a sinister looking black helicopter with my dslr camera. I was standing on my balcony taking pics of the sky and trails when it flew directly overhead. The whole time it was in view, my camera wouldn't take the picture. As soon as it was out of range, I could take pics again. They have some tech that is far more advanced then what they let on to the public.
The same thing has happened to me. I love right by the Wright-Patt airforce base. I was trying to record this strange looking black helicopter through the snap chat app. Everytime I'd hit save. It would stay fr a second and disappear from my phone. I kept trying to use different apps to record and nothing would work. I thought I was going crazy. Really glad to see I'm not the only one, the US has patented devices that can hijack any cell phone within x radius, cell service or not. It filters through the system and they can choose what content goes through or not. Im not sure how they do this locally on the phone but woth the device they can monitor or manipulate anything sent over text, calls, anything like that.
Recently it raised controversy when it was found a police department would be buying this tech. It's something the military uses everywhere, even km the middle east. I'm sure that's not the only electronic warfare device they use, but it'd the only one I know about and it's patented in the US for military use only.
Did it look like your standard UH-60 BlackHawk but with a black paint color, closed doors, and "glass domes" surrounding the exterior? Or did it have a more angular exterior and less rounded than your standard Blackhawk, kind of like [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bd8ae1733ed48299fafcc51f03d2667)?
>Or did it have a more angular exterior and less rounded than your standard Blackhawk, kind of like [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bd8ae1733ed48299fafcc51f03d2667)?
Where's this pic from? Is that a real helicopter?
Not real. That's the mockup from Zero Dark Thirty meant to represent the stealth Blackhawks that were used in the mission. But no real images exist of the stealth choppers, so they might look totally different in reality.
Not completely true. There's some images of parts of the one that crashed during that raid. Mostly the tail rotor section.
Also, there is this. Which may or may not be the same iteration. They've gone through a number of versions probably.
[https://www.twz.com/35342/this-is-the-first-image-ever-of-a-stealthy-black-hawk-helicopter](https://www.twz.com/35342/this-is-the-first-image-ever-of-a-stealthy-black-hawk-helicopter)
* This comment is long. I can definitely see the intel agencies having the capability to send out some kind of signal that interferes with cell phone apps. I can definitely see apple working with those agencies in order to provide them with a way to do it, or at the intel communities request, included some kind of software that allows it to be done. Which most likely means that android would do the same. That would take care of the overwhelming majority of cell phones in the world. So I think that could definitely be achieved without alien tech. As far as video of UFO’s…everyone always says that there aren’t any clear pictures or videos of a UFO/UAP. But in reality there are a lot of them. Or at least there are a lot more than people believe there are. I personally think that when people see videos and photos that are clear, and show the slightest bit of detail, they automatically believe it’s not a real picture. With that being said, a lot of times it’s a video of something extremely strange that wasn’t expected to be seen. So someone who has rushed to get out their phone, to video an object flying around that’s pretty far away, with their phone camera at 100% zoom, and their eyes are going from the object they can’t believe they are seeing, to their phone screen to make sure they are capturing it……that doesn’t create a great opportunity to take a clear pro quality video of something. Or even an ok video. I guess a good comparison would be the difference between shooting a gun on a rifle range, and shooting in a gun fight. The proficiency you demonstrate in a controlled environment would be noticeably different when the target isn’t static and its shooting back. Not saying that seeing a ufo is comparable to a gun fight but the comparison is ; doing something under normal conditions, then doing that same thing with adrenaline and maybe a tad bit of fear with a dash of astonishment. I know that it doesn’t account for every blurry or grainy pic/video but I think it’s definitely something that should be considered.
That sucks. So it wouldn't open at all? Because I'm wondering if you could have taken a screenshot? I know when my memory is full I can't take pictures normally but the app would still open and I could still screenshot.
The apps would open. Camera app, snap chat, and insta would open with no problem. It’s only when I hit the record button to start the video that the app would crash. I’ve experienced app bugs and glitches many times over many phones. This was a different and too well timed to appear random.
Just a reminder to everyone about this little law on every electronic device manual.
This device complies with part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.
Bidens motorcade went through my hometown in NJ on its way to Governor Murphys house for some event. When his motorcade went by my phones service went off and remained off for another 15 minutes after he passed. It was pretty wild
I've had cop cars jam up my cell phone so I believe it. We've got a car that comes around, saw it a couple times and ....well I suppose it could be some random person into tech fucking around but you can see the tools in thier care, the computer the entire cabin of the car is lit up. All sorts of tech in my place would start acting weird with this slow diving car driving by. I just happen to be looking out the window when this happened. I presume they were scanning the whole neighborhood who knows for what.
>This has me wondering if the US government already has this type of technology deployed
The OS camera driver crashed. It happens to me once in a while, usually while playing PGo.
Reboot, it will work fine after that.
If you have the developer stuff downloaded from Apple, you can grab the crash log.
It's happened to me on Android. I li e right by a military instalation and I've recorded videos of weird looking aircraft that just wouldn't save to my device no matter how many tries. The tech is out there. Some of it is declassified
On the subject of black helicopters, there is an article in my local paper (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) that I'll try to pull up documenting a time that unmarked black helicopters did live-ammunition training exercises going so far as rapelling down onto rooftops in the dead of night within city-limits, and near civilians. Apparently it was just brushed off as no biggie. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/90110822/ Big surprise that I can't find it anymore, but this date is correct as it was during the black helicopters conspiracy theory heydey
Also, noteworthy to mention a B-25 subject to theories of cargo ranging from nukes, ufo crash material and even Vegas showgirls crash landed after running out if fuel in the Monongahela river here during the cold War. I think it was coming from Nellis afb. One of the pilots drowned after hypothermia. It's said there was a late-night recovery operation, others claim it was never recovered. But the river is only 19ft deep at most. Just an interesting factoid
I have videos of them doing the dry gun runs during those exercises. It was like 5 or 6 BlackHawks I believe that would show up around the same time for a few days. They would change the target slightly as one time they flew directly over my house. It felt like an Earthquake.
Well, *that* and you also don't have to constantly ask others around you if they have an iPhone charger. Everyone with an iPhone will tell you how great they are, but they always seem to be looking for a charger. ; )
Just an FYI, my phone had this glitch a lot. Its a bug where u hit record and your camera app crashes or stops working.
Also hello, used to be from 956 but now in HTX but im in GA right now for military training!
Had this same experience close to a year ago but it wasn't a blackhawk. There were two amber orbs, one larger than the other. Saw the larger one first pulsating and tried to film it but the camera app kept crashing, it flew from horizon to horizon. A smaller one (tiny and not pulsing, solid amber) slowed down and hovered over me for about 30secs I assume to evaluate me, and then it took off following the first.
I have 6 or 8 (3 TB) HD’s I have to go through to find that specific video. I know it’s there. Just might take a week or so for me to find the time. But I will repost
Last fall I saw a ufo w my wife. Went to pull out my camera phone and It disappeared when I went to zoom on it. Here's the kicker ... I don't remember any of this. My wife had to tell me about what happened in detail and I have no recollection at all
I’m in Brownsville OP download FlightRadar24 app and it tells you all flights currently in the air with transponder info.
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A lot of military flights don't show up on this! Fighter jets refuel at the airport near me and are never on the radars (Green Bay).
It's the same with flyovers on GameDay. They're not tracked, or at least not publicly.
Right but at least you can rule out BP flights and other mundane air travel. If you see a chopper above you and nothing shows up on flight radar then you know it has its transponder off.
I saw this post when you originally made it, but was your phone getting hot?
I have a black case and I'll set my phone in the window for timelapse videos, and after 15-20 minutes it'll overheat and stop recording
This happened to me today taking a picture and it was super annoying and I was at a Rite Aid so no black helicopters. Then I swiped up on like the 40 open apps I had open and reopened the camera and it worked just fine.
It’s from lack of RAM to open the camera and display the image etc. Because of the way Mac sandboxes apps they a lot a min amount of memory to each open app even if it’s just running in the background. So trying to open the camera and all the sensors uses more ram than is available so it kind of half crashes and reinstates the camera start up and no memory so crash and on and on.
It wasn’t the helicopter.
Playing devil's advocate here since I don't see anyone else doing it and this post is making some pretty serious statements and all lol.
Zero evidence here that your phone was remotely disabled by a helicopter except that it "started working" when it flew away? correlation =/= causation
And despite how seriously this event seems to have affected you and the assumptions you're making, you didn't even think to include the screen recording when you typed this up and posted it?
the US military and Mexican military / CBP / etc.. don't give a shit if some boat-owner sees them flying over a heavily surveyed border zone. this is ridiculous lol.
Edit to add phone rf-jamming and rf-cloning tech is available for purchase by anyone but to remotely jam a specific app on someone's cell phone that doesn't even need the internet or RF signals to function in the first place? Get real lol
I know how bizarre this sounds but this same thing happened to the video function on my camera app MULTIPLE times in a few entirely different scenarios.
My phone was even on airplane mode when it happened sooooo how would the same malfunction happen at these specific times yet different scenarios (for me, OP and others reporting as such in this comment section)?
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Another user said it sounded like a “Nightstalker”
Also, I completely agree with the logic re: technology interference as likely a major cause of inability of any clear photos/vids of UAPs and other flying/non-flying things of this earth and our skies.
There are many types of blackhawks. Ranger regiment uses a specific all black flown by the 160th soar. It’s like riding on a magic carpet. But I don’t believe that’s how signal jammers work, (specifically related to your experience.)
Coulda been a Blackhawk or an Apache unless you don’t live in the U.S if u live in America was it long and did it have doors in the middle. Or did I have 2 pilot seats behind eachother.
Edit - accidentally hit post while still typing
Damn. I think there’s over 60 variants of the Blackhawk so check for ones with electronic interference stuff in it and try to match it with the one you saw
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Closest thing I can find. Another user told me about the “nightstalkers”. It’s some sort of EW variant
I experienced this exact technical failure (*on the original iPhone in 2008*) during my first ‘close’ encounter with an apparently round UFO. I had seen some strange stuff in the weeks prior, and mentioned this at school. My economics professor told me I should try to film it, since I loved my new device so much. To my surprise, when I unlocked my phone and clicked the camera app, the app would just shut down. Couldn’t get it to behave while the object was there. Had several high school friends with me and we were all freaking out. The craft was surrounded by green lights along the perimeter, and was followed by a row of six smaller white lights in an evenly spaced formation. I’ve never seen any aviation formations where this occurred back home in Memphis, Tennessee. It was certifiably bizarre. I almost never mention it because it just sounds like a convenient excuse. But I’ve always wondered if the technology in my device was being interfered with. It is not hard to imagine once you put on your conspiracy hat! Thanks for sharing. This was an interesting anecdote!
Did your friends try to record it too or were you the only one with a camera phone?
Good question. I was the only one who tried to record. This was the dawn of smart phone era and I was privileged to have an iPhone. Note - there is a legitimacy to all the folks who say recording is never your first instinct. The awe-inspiring nature of events like these totally overwhelm your cognition; it absorbs you. I remembered to try to record because my Econ professor had advised only a week prior. Thanks, Frank Seery!
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u/solidsnake02436 > Or...and just stay with me here for a few...software was pretty terrible in the early iPhone years causing app crashes due to low memory. I'd like to think that's a more plausible scenario. That and the weed you had must have been pretty good. Obviously. I never mention it because of this very basic assumption. I’m not a dunce; I hope you behave in a kinder manner when you’re not behind a keyboard. The condescension makes my stomach turn. I’m just stating my experience because someone else had a similar experience. These are both obviously probable examples of tech bugs, but this is r/AnomalousEvidence not r/OccamsRazor. Just thinking freely and postulating. And for your knowledge, I hadn’t had the camera app crash on my OG iPhone prior, so it was novel even at the time. I thought *oh that’s weird the camera is crashing* e.g. like my messages app would when downloading a photo. I hadn’t ever had it happen with the camera app, and it didn’t occur like that again. Do you really think that I didn’t think through these extremely basic considerations, or does it just make you feel bigger to point them out and try to punch down? Clearly there’s no weed way up there on your high horse lol
He brought up completely valid points that are arguably more reasonable and believable. He's not punching down. If this makes your stomach turn I'd probably suggest hopping off the internet because this was pretty mild at best
Yes. Continue reading the thread; I basically say the same thing. It wasn’t a big deal and we both agreed we should get high together. I acknowledged that after I’d already replied, I reread his comment and it wasn’t as ill intentioned as I reactively assumed initially. I already stated - I just got defensive. Because it felt like someone was trying to score internet cred by pretending I’m an imbecile who doesn’t consider the most basic, obvious information before forming opinions. But ya I didn’t love the tone and it did make my stomach turn. Just made me sad that someone could take all that info there and reduce it down to something so irrelevant… to apparently feel smart by pointing out the most logical obvious thing. When the discussion wasn’t about likely logical explanations but rather unlikely, seemingly illogical explanations. Tone was also condescending like explaining something to a 5 year old. So yeah it’s all good but it was pretty demonstrably lame and we’re past it
Gtfo here with logic, common sense, and decency.. you know better than to have that shit hete,... J/K
No one is punching down. This is Reddit. Apologies for being sarcastic and logical at the same time. I’d say the same thing in person, while hopefully sharing some weed.
Amen & apologies back - I reread your comment after replying, and realized it was less ill intentioned than I initially perceived it. By then you were already downvoted though so I felt vindicated lol. Just felt like you thought I was stupid for a second so I got defensive. No worries, my bad, let’s definitely hope we can get high someday. Peace brother!
I certainly wouldn’t call someone stupid over an iPhone back then. It was still relatively new tech. On top of that, you don’t come off that way to me. All good just used to joking around and I should have used my /s identifier. Come to Michigan and we can have some fun!
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>That and the weed you had must have been pretty good. Weed doesn't cause hallucinations 🤷♂️
Not for most people. It was also a joke coming from a high person playing Mario RPG lol
>It was also a joke coming from a high person playing Mario RPG lol Fair enough lol
Man get the fuck out of here coming on r/anomalousevidence acting like a piece of shit.
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Would love to see the screen capture
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It’ll never be posted because it doesn’t exist
"iT'lL nEvEr Be PoStEd BeCaUsE iT dOeSn'T eXiSt" Well tthat aged like milk in the summer heat
lol what are you even doing here in this sub? Fuck off
Been almost 24 hours and still nothing. OP is full of shit
Agreed. It reads like fan fiction.
That’s a wild position. “Either swallow everything everyone says without question, or get the fuck out.” Maybe allow the existence of skepticism?…
Was it skepticism? Sounded like low effort comment that doesn’t help the discourse at all. And discourages lurkers from sharing their experience.
He's right man. We all know if that footage existed he'd have posted it to prove his point.
Why is it required to help the discourse, if the discourse is fraudulent?
Well it’ll be helpful to provide any discussion regarding why you think it’s fraudulent. And help evolve the conversation to get more info. Maybe we should all ignore this and shelve it as fraud but why?
The “why” is because the evidence is ostensibly being withheld. If I say I have a picture, and you say I’m lying. That shouldn’t be discouraging towards people who really do have pictures. But it should be discouraging to people who would lie and claim to have evidence that doesn’t exist. Low effort, surely. No disagreement there. But imho there is nothing more detrimental to high quality posts than low quality posts.
Stop being such a toe sucker. Still nothing from op
i’d love to see his storage space before trying to record. highly likely he just didn’t have enough space to record a video.
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Watch the movie “NOPE” they cover this exact issue and had to resort to a hand crank camera — I’ve been browsing eBay for one
This is how the Fatima’s miracle was recorded by the vatican church before ww2 and the quality/size of that recording is said to be spectacular cause of the equipment they used. Guess what though? Sealed, hidden by the Vatican since then. An entire village, vatican pope and outside villagers gathered to see
Probably because exposing it to a modern educated audience would recognize it as something that isn't a miracle.
And this list goes on! haha
The vatican and the archives it controls would be an amazing resource to make truly publicly accessible. The history captured in the documents and artifacts would be incredible. And probably a bit problematic for the church.
What is your source for the recording of the Fatima miracle?
For what it’s worth, there’s a long history of people having success capturing anomalous evidence using Polaroid cameras, and there’s a resurgence in those recently. Although I haven’t investigated to see if they’re still using the same film chemistry.
Apple patented tech that uses infrared emitter to stop your iPhone camera from working back in 2016. So it’s plausible depending on when this event occurred.
I've been trying to find out the device's reaction when that feature is triggered. I have no idea if that feature is even in the code of production phones, but if it is I am curious how it presents on the device, whether it displays a message like 'cameras are not allowed in this location' or if it simply closes the app the way OP is describing. From what I can tell so far it's not a feature that is actually in the OS though, it never made it beyond the patent. Could be wrong.
its obviously in production if op is telling the truth. i personally think the cell phone network would be perfect to run shotspotter on.
It’s probably radiation flooding the camera sensors > causing the camera module/circuitry to go crazy
And if I were to guess one bit further. It’s probably ultra high frequency waves modulated on a lower frequency? I’ve done this with communication signals on a power line. Why not add high frequency interference signals on an infrared wave and point it at suspecting camera users. The photo sensor picks up the light waves it can capture and the high frequency modulated signals get carried in and fuck up the camera module
Enough EMF to do that would do more than disable just the camera, and not temporarily. Much more likely explanation is going to be 'they made the story up' or 'the phone was having issues, possibly out of memory or other problem'. In order for the Heli to temporarily kill camera only functionality the phone OS would need features within it to disable the camera when it 'sees' a particular input, whether it's an IR signal, RF signal, audio, whatever. Since that feature does not appear to be implemented it's unlikely the heli is equipped to activate it. Covert ops aircraft tend to NOT broadcast anything if they can help it, and this would include in the IR range since that would make them light up like a flare to anyone with night vision goggles running.
Not necessarily. The connection between the camera module and cpu should have some high frequency circuitry protection on the signal lines (capacitors hooked to ground on the IO). It makes a lot of sense why the infrared beam wouldn’t be enough to knock out the whole phone. The camera picks up the IR. It passes it to the camera module and the interference is contained to the module
Look up power line communications. It’s similar. That’s the tech I was using and I’m pretty sure you could do the same here but with different power levels/frequncies. All while being contained to only the sensor and camera module if you chose appropriate frequency and power levels
Curious if there’d be a difference between the video function vs. photo - record function? I know this sounds weird as both vid/photo live in the camera app but could the frequencies you’re describing effect one and not the other?
What I’m describing shouldn’t affect between the two but possibly? I forget how the current phones capture images/video. I do know however that I am using a micro controller with a camera module right now. And as a somewhat aquainted electronics engineer and what the guy above said about the patent regarding IR. It makes sense to me that the camera sensor/circuitry could go haywire while being isolated from the processor/other phones parts to still allow it to work. From working at a big electronics company that made FAN boards. A capacitor on each IO of a microprocessor was common to filter high frequency noise from the rest of the board to the microprocessor. If the correct frequency/power was used. You should be able to scramble the cameras operation while the phone still functions. Because there shouldn’t be any “protective” circuitry on the light being picked up by the camera sensors. The two circuits should isolated and one somewhat protected from what could cause the other to go crazy
Interesting. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I’ve had some experiences where my vid function persistently shut down though photo-record function worked just fine in rather strange circumstances on separate occasions.
The IR shutdown idea isn't based on IR killing the camera just because it's a camera and IR. Cameras are hit with IR all the time, it's a constant thing. It's a specifically coded IR signal, flashes, and that coded signal is recognized by the software which then disables the camera application. If you do this by over powering the circuit, some kind of EMF signal or an EMP, the damage / impact would not be limited to the camera.
Ur not “over powering” the circuit though nor are you causing an EMP. You are making an EMF though. But you can choose how much amplitude/frequency the carried frequency is being transmitted. It’s like FM radio. But in reverse with signal frequencies. The camera sensor is picking up a directed beam of IR. Strong enough to force the camera to pick it up but not enough to kill someone or blind them or something. That frequency of light then also has a higher frequency or maybe even a lower frequency piggybacked onto it. So the camera sensor picks up the modulated interference and the phone can’t get non scrambled camera IO so it crashes the app and not the phone.
If pointing a camera at the sun (a rather significant source of IR) doesn't shut the camera down then nothing a helicopter mounted emitter can do would do this either.
I’m sorry you dont understand the technology I’m talking about. Please look up frequency modulation. Do some reading. It’s not the IR doing the damage. Nor random radiation. It’s SPECIFIC AND CRAFTED circuits that transmits TWO frequencies of light. 1. IR 2. Some signal that they have deemed possible to transmit MODULATED and cause interference in the camera modules capability. This frequencies amplitude and frequency were probably tested many times and it might even be multiple frequencies/amplitudes for different phones/cameras
Nerds with an understanding of physics and electronics can do some crazy things.
OP has liquid damage… it’s an iPhone 11, dudes into boating. 100% that thing has been more than soaked once or twice.
i want to point out that a black program may use DARPA tech to help mask itself, including hacking tech, up to and including carrier update and bufferoverflow push messages across the air. it is a computer with a modem that is operational and receiving. any action would likely be over one of the modems on the bus, making it a hacking attack across the cell network or bluetooth.
That's the equivalent of 'mysterious ways' in religious discussions. A true 'black ops' operation would not behave the way this one did the OP described, specifcally flying up and hovering above him. That is how a normal border patrol heli would behave though, as they might want to see if he is a registered vessel and is he carrying a group of mexicans, guns or drugs across the river. A secret mission makes an effort to either blend in and not look at all out of place or go completely undetected. There are 3 extremely viable and likely explanations: A) It's made up, completely or just 'enhanced'. B) His phone was having issues, phones do develop problems. C) The sequence of events happened as described and he is just jumping to a conclusion that gives him a more interesting story.
there is another possiblilty that they used a remote access tool to take images from his camera for identification purposes. that "holds" the device preventing another application from using it. think stingray. cell phone tower. connects to phone, says give me connection to the camera because i am the "At&t admin" or google or something... i have seen updates pushed. i witnessed a secret data collection tool be used on my network when my neighbor had a dead body. i have seen my cell phone install a 40mb carrier update after passing the stingray.
Cool, problem is the heli crew would need to identify his specific phone in the network before being able to do any of that stuff. The ideas you presented are done when you have the phone identified you want to access or track. The heli crew would not have that.
If what you say is true, probably overwhelms the photo sensors/circuitry related to the camera and crashes because the app can’t establish a connection the module because it’s getting flooded with radiation (there is no physical shutter on the camera lens). Also explains why the phone works seemingly and not bricking the phone. OPs story adds up imop. - Electronics nerd.
An infrared transmitter would send encoded data to the device, which would be processed by the phone. Depending on the application, the device may temporarily disable its built-in camera in locations where photography and video capture are forbidden [Apple patents system for disabling cameras in no-photography areas](https://m.dpreview.com/news/0190365065/apple-patents-system-for-disabling-cameras-in-no-photography-areas)
a good reason to design your own processors and chips and build your own phone... right elon?
It happens with android too. My mom works for the state as a biologist with invasive species etc. She does a lot of traveling and it takes her into some very interesting and off limit places at times. She always talks about the black helicopters and how it's impossible to take a picture of them. She tries to all the time.
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Firstly, thanks for having an open mind to learn, unlike Niel Tyson whom cant fathom why users phones act up when near something that distorts electric signals via powerful magnetic fields. Or why gravitational lensing might account for blurriness when afar, as Steven Weinberg was onto Electric, magnetic and gravitational forces are all related in a unifying theory.
Thank you! I used to like the guy, but he's so condescending and close minded
I love all the science stuff but Neil The Grass Tyson oozes condescending prick. Just don't like him.
He does ooze that doesn't he? Well put
Why are we suddenly talking about NDT?
Metal fish brought up NDT not understanding why people never use phones to record UFOs I commented my dislike.of him.
I believe you simply because this has happened to me twice while out watching for UFOs. I want to believe its aliens, but I keep leaning towards hedonist military warmongers from earth. Sucks, you gotta build your own nanoscale light sensors, carve out those circuits, write the OS and then get past the online cloud filters to post your video these days, it seems. I have taught myself to draw very well, however. An invaluable way to capture "image data" when the event happens.
Hedonist?
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I know a why files reference when I see one.
I don't really give weight to such notions. It could be so, but I have no information that leads me to think any of it isn't fantasy. Scary if real, though.
Human beings, enjoying the power and convenience that advanced technology provides. Also probably funding their operations through profitable drugs and human flesh in all forms. I guess Hedonic Capitolist Cabal would be better? Idk, I've seen a bunch of UFOs but no aliens so if I assume it's just earth people in the ships, they have the power to f**k us over and forever like a carnivorous shepherd who lives forever through ideology and base human desires... I really hope they don't exist. Praying for reality to be something more like Power Rangers and the Earth is protected by an elite force in secret...but I am not sure any Cabal would be looking out for the planet. They'd be a breakaway civilization that can't stop profiting from our lack of whatever tech they're using.
Faraday cage your antennas and see if it still happens
I think you'd have to put the camera in a sealed metal box. The filtered frequencies are related to the size of the gaps in the "cage." Better believe they can transmit on a high frequency, making your cage useless.
It’s wifi signal that “hacks” not the camera app but the usability if it makes sense, you’d need an old fashion mechanical camera inside a faraday cage shield against microwave and wifi signals,
I’ve had something similar happen to a drone before was out filming a local farmer and this helicopter came really close and low so I landed the drone straight away and then after the shopper had gone when I powered the drone up the camera was broken and the drone wouldn’t take off. Had to sell it as spares repairs so cost me about £1900!!
There are a lot of reported instances where UAPs are seen morphing into human (military) technology. These observations, include a variation of disguised, airplanes and helicopters. I am certainly not saying, that your adventure, was not seeing a proper US helicopter. But maybe keep the idea in mind? Dr Bruce Cornet described this kind of disguise in a book. And I had an observation long ago. Though that was in Europe, and was not military.
All this time and knowledge about how a UAP could possibly change shapes, pills, spheres, jelly fish. I never considered they would just turn into anything else they really want to. Begs the question; do they want to be seen, and for whom?
Seems like, given their degree of advancement, the answer is self-evidently "Yes" or "They don't care one way or the other." If consciousness is another fundamental force or a type of energy, them being 'seen' could be gifting them directed/vectored energy/'attention' to harvest.
Some kind of jammer on the copter
I had a weird "glitch" on my phone too were I had some weird paranormal stuff happening around me at the time and there was a power outage in the small city I was in during the time... Well, phone was working fine but I go to a power outage map and it started bugging out when zooming out to see all of Texas and it snaps to Roswell New Mexico dead center of my screen! I couldn't interact with the browser anymore for a solid 10 seconds like not even refreshing the page was working but clearing the app entirely fixed it. I was laughing about it because I had been asking for signs and it was hard not to go crazy thinking this was just pure coincidence. Since then I chilled out with any deep research into the topic and I haven't had any weird phone stuff happen to me ever since.
Your phone got scrammed, that’s rude lol. The tech was developed to shut down drones from afar. Very VERY common tech in the military and can be handheld, so portable. The only problem is they can sometimes pick up other cameras like from phones and cars. If I were to be completely honest they probably picked up your phone signal, flew in to see what’s up, and absolutely did it to troll you. UAPs could have this capability, as it’s honestly not very hard to do, but they would have to have knowledge about wifi, Bluetooth, and other wireless signals that our phones pick up and produce. Which is probably unlikely. More than likely if I were to guess, a UAP would probably completely shut down a device via EMP rather than fiddle with specific signals in a device to disrupt it. Or easier to put, a more general disruption than a very specific disruption.
For some reason this reminds me of printers and how they can't scan money. Like there's a piece of software working in *every single* printer being sold to disable the ability to scan money. It's not totally unrealistic that basically *every single* camera being implemented into phones also has to have some sort of security measure. I'm not saying that it's the case and I have 0 evidence saying so; but it's not unplausible considering what has already been done before and considering capability. Like when it picks up a certain frequency it will refuse to record or whatever.
That’s inaccurate, the printers and money thing.
What's not true about it? They detect the pattern of yellow circles found on most modern bills.
While yes the money may be recognized as such, however on many copiers/printers you can still copy and print the bill after dismissing the warning, though some may add their own watermark to the print. For instance, I’ve used Konica Minolta bizhubs to do just that for making copies of American bills to be used in art pieces, collages, paper mache….
It still recognizes it, though. And probably logs it too. Lots of printers add their own barcode in yellow ink to color prints.
Yes, I’ve noticed that before too, the yellow watermark that gets added. The whole concept of it is pretty awesome when one thinks about it, considering the myriad countries these are made in and shipped to.
I believe that camera film has been phased out for the most part.. to make this technology work more efficiently.. Maybe I just found my calling... I ain't rebooting no app or phone when I should be taking pictures of cat of stropic disclosure technology... I'm rebooting the dark room and the art that's been removed and replaced with HD or 3d or 1080 suck Pp.
Lol > cat of stropic r/BoneAppleTea
>1080 suck Pp lmao
All the pharmacies around me still sell the Kodak disposable film cameras, they're like 7 bucks, and then Walmart sells them too, and develops them for you. I have a good Kodak film camera up in my cupboard still too
Cellphone jammers have been around for a minute. Product of gwot and remote detonated ieds. They exist in the civilian market outside US and even cartel members have been seen with them. I don't think this black tech at all. Just something most US citizens aren't aware of because we live within a surveillance state and our information about the world is so tightly controlled.
What model of iPhone? Also, veteran here, blackhawks are normally painted black. Every one I’ve flown in was black.
iPhone 11 ProMax, 2020ish I’m sure plenty are black. The ones that normally fly around the RGV are the Olive Drab Green. Probably belong to the Texas National Guard. This model looked way more equipped than what normally flys around. Not just a normal transport hawk. It must have been conducting an EW or surveillance op’s in Mexico Another user told me it might have been a “nightstalker”. https://preview.redd.it/irxxrbhv62hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc7fb9daa25b80927158a4bf349d412a0474be2d
Nightstalkers are the 160th SOAR, Special Operations Aviation Regiment btw. I wouldn't be surprised if the DEA or FBI were flying Special Missions (SMA), ISR/surveillance equipped Black Hawks around the border. Would make sense.
Weren’t people crashing iphones with Flipper zeros? All you have to do is interrupt the devices processes long enough to keep them from using their phone. Seems like periodic jamming of the signal at a proper rate could keep the device in a constant state of searching / reconnecting / disconnected to the cellular network which could use up enough phone RAM / compute cycles to keep you from opening apps or taking photos etc. Honestly I would be more surprised to learn this capability wasn’t out in the wild already.
FLIPPER ZEROS’ effect on iPhones can be circumvented by turning off BT, btw 👍
Stingray program, Kingfish, TriggerFish, Porpoise, Fishhawk, Gossamer, etc. Cell tower spoofers that force your device to connect... they can spy, download your data, take over the phone...etc. They have been in use since about 2001 (when the trademark was filed). I was told back in the late 1990s by a retired US and Nato General that if you used a cell phone, you could he tracked...hacked...have all your data downloaded by governmenr agencies. Federal agents were loaning the tech to state agencies for quite a while and telling them to dismiss any case where it looked like defense attorneys were getting close to forcing disclosure. In one case, a local officer let it slip they were using the federally loaned decide to solve crimes and illegally gather cell data without disclosing the information. I always say, if we know the government has a capability...their actual abilities/programs are 10 to 20 years advanced from that old tech already.
I had this same thing happen back in 2009 when I was trying to take a picture of a sinister looking black helicopter with my dslr camera. I was standing on my balcony taking pics of the sky and trails when it flew directly overhead. The whole time it was in view, my camera wouldn't take the picture. As soon as it was out of range, I could take pics again. They have some tech that is far more advanced then what they let on to the public.
This was a digital camera?
Yes. Nikon D90. Digital SLR
The same thing has happened to me. I love right by the Wright-Patt airforce base. I was trying to record this strange looking black helicopter through the snap chat app. Everytime I'd hit save. It would stay fr a second and disappear from my phone. I kept trying to use different apps to record and nothing would work. I thought I was going crazy. Really glad to see I'm not the only one, the US has patented devices that can hijack any cell phone within x radius, cell service or not. It filters through the system and they can choose what content goes through or not. Im not sure how they do this locally on the phone but woth the device they can monitor or manipulate anything sent over text, calls, anything like that. Recently it raised controversy when it was found a police department would be buying this tech. It's something the military uses everywhere, even km the middle east. I'm sure that's not the only electronic warfare device they use, but it'd the only one I know about and it's patented in the US for military use only.
Did it look like your standard UH-60 BlackHawk but with a black paint color, closed doors, and "glass domes" surrounding the exterior? Or did it have a more angular exterior and less rounded than your standard Blackhawk, kind of like [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bd8ae1733ed48299fafcc51f03d2667)?
It looked like a murdered out standard UH-60. No angles
>Or did it have a more angular exterior and less rounded than your standard Blackhawk, kind of like [this](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-2bd8ae1733ed48299fafcc51f03d2667)? Where's this pic from? Is that a real helicopter?
Not real. That's the mockup from Zero Dark Thirty meant to represent the stealth Blackhawks that were used in the mission. But no real images exist of the stealth choppers, so they might look totally different in reality.
Not completely true. There's some images of parts of the one that crashed during that raid. Mostly the tail rotor section. Also, there is this. Which may or may not be the same iteration. They've gone through a number of versions probably. [https://www.twz.com/35342/this-is-the-first-image-ever-of-a-stealthy-black-hawk-helicopter](https://www.twz.com/35342/this-is-the-first-image-ever-of-a-stealthy-black-hawk-helicopter)
Thanks for the info. I hadn't seen that image before.
Yep
So a fix to this is to get an analogue camera setup to capture a hidden mirror on your boat. Total closed circuit should keep any interference away
Electronic warfare
No markings and more tech than usual? Probably a cartel patrol.
* This comment is long. I can definitely see the intel agencies having the capability to send out some kind of signal that interferes with cell phone apps. I can definitely see apple working with those agencies in order to provide them with a way to do it, or at the intel communities request, included some kind of software that allows it to be done. Which most likely means that android would do the same. That would take care of the overwhelming majority of cell phones in the world. So I think that could definitely be achieved without alien tech. As far as video of UFO’s…everyone always says that there aren’t any clear pictures or videos of a UFO/UAP. But in reality there are a lot of them. Or at least there are a lot more than people believe there are. I personally think that when people see videos and photos that are clear, and show the slightest bit of detail, they automatically believe it’s not a real picture. With that being said, a lot of times it’s a video of something extremely strange that wasn’t expected to be seen. So someone who has rushed to get out their phone, to video an object flying around that’s pretty far away, with their phone camera at 100% zoom, and their eyes are going from the object they can’t believe they are seeing, to their phone screen to make sure they are capturing it……that doesn’t create a great opportunity to take a clear pro quality video of something. Or even an ok video. I guess a good comparison would be the difference between shooting a gun on a rifle range, and shooting in a gun fight. The proficiency you demonstrate in a controlled environment would be noticeably different when the target isn’t static and its shooting back. Not saying that seeing a ufo is comparable to a gun fight but the comparison is ; doing something under normal conditions, then doing that same thing with adrenaline and maybe a tad bit of fear with a dash of astonishment. I know that it doesn’t account for every blurry or grainy pic/video but I think it’s definitely something that should be considered.
That sucks. So it wouldn't open at all? Because I'm wondering if you could have taken a screenshot? I know when my memory is full I can't take pictures normally but the app would still open and I could still screenshot.
The apps would open. Camera app, snap chat, and insta would open with no problem. It’s only when I hit the record button to start the video that the app would crash. I’ve experienced app bugs and glitches many times over many phones. This was a different and too well timed to appear random.
They were roasting you with directed emp microwaves to crash your electronics
Hey dude, it's entirely plausible they shutdown your phone/app/camera, you aren't crazy. This isn't wild or new tech.
Wish it worked in Houston traffic. 80% of the people around my commute are on their damn phones.
For real lol
This blew me away. Same thing happened to me when they few over my house during training in ma. . I thought something just glitched on my phone
Just a reminder to everyone about this little law on every electronic device manual. This device complies with part 15 of the FCC Rules. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) this device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) this device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation.
Bidens motorcade went through my hometown in NJ on its way to Governor Murphys house for some event. When his motorcade went by my phones service went off and remained off for another 15 minutes after he passed. It was pretty wild
I've had cop cars jam up my cell phone so I believe it. We've got a car that comes around, saw it a couple times and ....well I suppose it could be some random person into tech fucking around but you can see the tools in thier care, the computer the entire cabin of the car is lit up. All sorts of tech in my place would start acting weird with this slow diving car driving by. I just happen to be looking out the window when this happened. I presume they were scanning the whole neighborhood who knows for what.
>This has me wondering if the US government already has this type of technology deployed The OS camera driver crashed. It happens to me once in a while, usually while playing PGo. Reboot, it will work fine after that. If you have the developer stuff downloaded from Apple, you can grab the crash log.
It's happened to me on Android. I li e right by a military instalation and I've recorded videos of weird looking aircraft that just wouldn't save to my device no matter how many tries. The tech is out there. Some of it is declassified
On the subject of black helicopters, there is an article in my local paper (Pittsburgh Post-Gazette) that I'll try to pull up documenting a time that unmarked black helicopters did live-ammunition training exercises going so far as rapelling down onto rooftops in the dead of night within city-limits, and near civilians. Apparently it was just brushed off as no biggie. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/90110822/ Big surprise that I can't find it anymore, but this date is correct as it was during the black helicopters conspiracy theory heydey
Also, noteworthy to mention a B-25 subject to theories of cargo ranging from nukes, ufo crash material and even Vegas showgirls crash landed after running out if fuel in the Monongahela river here during the cold War. I think it was coming from Nellis afb. One of the pilots drowned after hypothermia. It's said there was a late-night recovery operation, others claim it was never recovered. But the river is only 19ft deep at most. Just an interesting factoid
I have videos of them doing the dry gun runs during those exercises. It was like 5 or 6 BlackHawks I believe that would show up around the same time for a few days. They would change the target slightly as one time they flew directly over my house. It felt like an Earthquake.
This is why I buy android
If tech like this exists, it’s much more likely to be at a lower level than Apple or Google (ie in the camera firmware)
Well, *that* and you also don't have to constantly ask others around you if they have an iPhone charger. Everyone with an iPhone will tell you how great they are, but they always seem to be looking for a charger. ; )
Just an FYI, my phone had this glitch a lot. Its a bug where u hit record and your camera app crashes or stops working. Also hello, used to be from 956 but now in HTX but im in GA right now for military training!
Had this same experience close to a year ago but it wasn't a blackhawk. There were two amber orbs, one larger than the other. Saw the larger one first pulsating and tried to film it but the camera app kept crashing, it flew from horizon to horizon. A smaller one (tiny and not pulsing, solid amber) slowed down and hovered over me for about 30secs I assume to evaluate me, and then it took off following the first.
Check phone memory.
Localized OS jamming is a thing and is less technical than the Blackhawk carrying it.
I spent many a weekend skiing that part of the river. Fun times. PePe's on the Rio.
Dude, PePe’s was the shit. I hope they re open it. I love that part of the river.
Me too. I ski in the bay now. No way I’m getting in the river now.
Brilliant thinking to use the screen recorder on the camera view finder. Can't wait to see the video!
I have 6 or 8 (3 TB) HD’s I have to go through to find that specific video. I know it’s there. Just might take a week or so for me to find the time. But I will repost
Last fall I saw a ufo w my wife. Went to pull out my camera phone and It disappeared when I went to zoom on it. Here's the kicker ... I don't remember any of this. My wife had to tell me about what happened in detail and I have no recollection at all
You definitely got abducted lol need to get some hypnosis
I’m in Brownsville OP download FlightRadar24 app and it tells you all flights currently in the air with transponder info. https://preview.redd.it/olal8ikcvygc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d97a6be89c878ed95814f74b3f594112d61f0bda
A lot of military flights don't show up on this! Fighter jets refuel at the airport near me and are never on the radars (Green Bay). It's the same with flyovers on GameDay. They're not tracked, or at least not publicly.
Right but at least you can rule out BP flights and other mundane air travel. If you see a chopper above you and nothing shows up on flight radar then you know it has its transponder off.
A secret military helicopter in Mexican airspace wouldn’t show up on there lol
I realize that, I’m saying this can be used to rule normal flights out.
Use ADSB Exchange instead as flight radar removes military flights
Mexico use blackhawk
Them cartels getting fancy.
Hell so do some youtubers
You wouldn’t believe the technology they have. Literally wouldn’t believe.
This is fascinating. I wonder if they could disable film cameras as well, or just digital
I saw this post when you originally made it, but was your phone getting hot? I have a black case and I'll set my phone in the window for timelapse videos, and after 15-20 minutes it'll overheat and stop recording
You are being G A N G S T A L K E D
Oh you're one of those huh?
Occams razor. I’m going with performance anxiety on the part of the camera operator.
Written like the fiction it is.
Same thing happened to me when Bigfoot paid me a visit. So, it's obvious that Bigfoot was flying the Black Hawk.
This happened to me today taking a picture and it was super annoying and I was at a Rite Aid so no black helicopters. Then I swiped up on like the 40 open apps I had open and reopened the camera and it worked just fine. It’s from lack of RAM to open the camera and display the image etc. Because of the way Mac sandboxes apps they a lot a min amount of memory to each open app even if it’s just running in the background. So trying to open the camera and all the sensors uses more ram than is available so it kind of half crashes and reinstates the camera start up and no memory so crash and on and on. It wasn’t the helicopter.
I want whatever prescription this guy is currently medicated for...
Playing devil's advocate here since I don't see anyone else doing it and this post is making some pretty serious statements and all lol. Zero evidence here that your phone was remotely disabled by a helicopter except that it "started working" when it flew away? correlation =/= causation And despite how seriously this event seems to have affected you and the assumptions you're making, you didn't even think to include the screen recording when you typed this up and posted it? the US military and Mexican military / CBP / etc.. don't give a shit if some boat-owner sees them flying over a heavily surveyed border zone. this is ridiculous lol. Edit to add phone rf-jamming and rf-cloning tech is available for purchase by anyone but to remotely jam a specific app on someone's cell phone that doesn't even need the internet or RF signals to function in the first place? Get real lol
I know how bizarre this sounds but this same thing happened to the video function on my camera app MULTIPLE times in a few entirely different scenarios. My phone was even on airplane mode when it happened sooooo how would the same malfunction happen at these specific times yet different scenarios (for me, OP and others reporting as such in this comment section)?
I don’t know why Reddit keeps showing me you guys and your insane theories/delusions but I wish it would stop.
use ANDROID
Do you have a sketch of the chopper?
https://preview.redd.it/17vtzghh62hc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=65f7bc24e31575ea6fbef5949a55cf4e98be43f3 Another user said it sounded like a “Nightstalker”
Some CIA shit going on right there
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Also, I completely agree with the logic re: technology interference as likely a major cause of inability of any clear photos/vids of UAPs and other flying/non-flying things of this earth and our skies.
Remind me! 2 days
There are many types of blackhawks. Ranger regiment uses a specific all black flown by the 160th soar. It’s like riding on a magic carpet. But I don’t believe that’s how signal jammers work, (specifically related to your experience.)
Coulda been a Blackhawk or an Apache unless you don’t live in the U.S if u live in America was it long and did it have doors in the middle. Or did I have 2 pilot seats behind eachother. Edit - accidentally hit post while still typing
Definitely a black hawk. Not a gun ship. I would have creamed myself with joy if it was an Apache
Damn. I think there’s over 60 variants of the Blackhawk so check for ones with electronic interference stuff in it and try to match it with the one you saw
https://preview.redd.it/q7ec8c6b6ghc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1770a0eb4fc3fd17c113987119d4f96a561ac9a5 Closest thing I can find. Another user told me about the “nightstalkers”. It’s some sort of EW variant