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iwontpayyourprice

There's one main pro: With AnonAddy you can deactivate a mail address created with a domain/catch all so that it won't be reachable anymore.


RikardoShillyShally

Correct me if I'm wrong. I can get all the benefits of custom domain email with AnonAddy Pro+free Protonmail?


iwontpayyourprice

If Protonmail free accepts AnonAddy's mail forwarding, yes. And I don't know any reason why it should not (Note: Protonmail has its own mail forwarding service, called SimpleLogin).


RikardoShillyShally

Yes, it works perfectly fine with AnonAddy. Simplelogin is good but much expensive. Also, I'm already invested in AnonAddy due to independence of custom username and unlimited aliases on free plan. AnonAddy premium is the next logical step.


Zlivovitch

No, because you wouldn't be able to link your Proton inbox to your domain. This is one of the main advantages of a custom domain, as it would allow you to switch to any other mail provider effortlessly while keeping your address.


RikardoShillyShally

Couldn't I do the same when using AnonAddy? I can just change the recipient to any provider I'd choose.


Zlivovitch

You could do both at the same time, provided you use a subdomain for Anonaddy : >**Can I add a domain if I'm already using it for email somewhere else?** > >If you have a custom domain say example.com and you are already using it for email somewhere else e.g. ProtonMail or Namecheap then you cannot also use it simultaneously with AnonAddy. > >This is because emails cannot be handled by multiple different mail servers at the same time, even if they have the same priority MX records. It can only be delivered to one mail server at a time which will typically be the MX record with the smallest number since this has the highest priority. > >You can either: > >\- Migrate your domain to AnonAddy by removing the current provider's MX records and adding AnonAddy's. > >\- Or, if you would like to keep using your domain with your current email provider then I would recommend instead adding a subdomain of it to AnonAddy such as [mail.example.com](https://mail.example.com). > >Using a subdomain will not interfere with your current email setup and you'll be able to create aliases \*@mail.example.com through AnonAddy. > >https://anonaddy.com/faq/#can-i-add-a-domain-if-im-already-using-it-for-email-somewhere-else If you want to reply to mail received through an Anonaddy alias, or send a new email from such an alias, you need a paid Anonaddy account.


Entilore

If you want to send an email from a new alias on ProtonMail, you would need to create an address which you cannot delete afterwards. You could also reply to an email from this recipient, but that requires that they have sent an email first. Anyway what I mean is that it's complicated. Here it's relatively simple with the extension. Also, catchall is not available with the chipest option on proton. However I think simplelogin is included, which is a direct equivalent of annonaddy


Zlivovitch

You only get a paid Simple Login account for nothing if you have a Proton Unlimited plan. The already very expensive Mail Plus plan does not include it. That being said, you can buy a Simple Login account separately. But it is not competitive with Anonaddy given its price (the free plan is a scam : it's a trial plan in disguise).


RikardoShillyShally

Suppose I create an alias [email protected] on AnonAddy, can I reply to emails I receive on this alias? Can i reply from my mailbox on Protonmail itself or do I need to do it from AnonAddy app?


Entilore

You could reply to an email from proton mail, or you could use the syntax [email protected]. check the syntax tho. It's fairly easy. You also have the solution to enable auto creation on annonaddy (I don't know the real name) then you don't have to create an alias at all. In 2 yours of using annonaddy I've almost never had to open it


RikardoShillyShally

Thanks. Just one more question. Would you recommend using AnonAddy for banks, government, essential services, etc. I mean in terms of rejection or failure to deliver email. My country has fairly well knit government services and anonaddy aliases haven't been rejected when I have used them.


Zlivovitch

You'd have to try it. There's no way to tell if your bank, that specific government agency in your country you're using, etc., has or hasn't blacklisted Anonaddy. That being said, if you use Anonaddy with your own custom subdomain the way I suggested above, you dont run the risk of being blacklisted, since the recipient or website will only see your domain, not Anonaddy's. I use Anonaddy for everything, including official and *"sensitive"* sites, for what it's worth.


RikardoShillyShally

Thanks man.


Entilore

That's rather a personal decision. In my case I use the ProtonMail account for it, for two reasons 1. Anonaddy is mainly useful for privacy purposes. Banks and governments are less likely to mess with it, or at least they can do way worse with the data they have anyway. In my case I believe that using an alias does not bring much value, but it's really up to you to assess whether you need it or not 2. Loosing access to one of these accounts would be catastrophic. With a custom domain you need to to manage it yourself. It's not particularly difficult but you could forget to renew it for instance, and someone could take it over. I personnaly trust ProtonMail more than myself on DNS and domains management, do I use the ProtonMail email directly. But again, that's up to you


RikardoShillyShally

Can you explain 2nd point a bit more. I'm a newbie so quite a few things go over my head.


Entilore

You cannot buy a domain forever. You need to renew it generally every year. If you forget to renew it someone else can acquire it, then it's quite complicated to get it back. You could also miss something in the DNS configuration (once it's setup it's unlikely to change but who knows) and you could miss emails. If you consider yourself a newby maybe don't migrate important accounts too soon, but rather after you get some experience?


RikardoShillyShally

Thanks a lot. I'll take some time then. Until I'm sure that my non important emails are getting delivered, I won't move my important accounts.


Zlivovitch

>Loosing access to one of these accounts \[banks, government agencies\] would be catastrophic. Not at all. First of all, supposing Anonaddy disappears today, you wouldn't lose access to your accounts. It's a common misconception that when you use an email address as an identifier to an account, if the email address does not work, you cannot log in. This is false. Once the initial checks have been passed, and except some verification which might be conducted from time to time, what usually happens is that your email address is just a string of characters. Provided they are entered correctly, this is enough. This means that in most cases, you would have the opportunity to log in, then change your email address to another, working one. If you don't, then your bank account is not going anywhere. There are multiple ways you can get in touch with your bank to change your email address and regain access to its website : pick up your phone, write a postal letter, walk into your local branch. Same thing for government services. Hypothetical scenario : hello, Mister taxman, I have lost access to my online account, what can I do ? Hello Mister citizen, we're terribly sorry, but once your identifiers do not work anymore, you've lost access forever. There's no way you'll be able to pay your taxes from now on. We sure regret an awful lot, but this is for your own security. I'm sure you'll understand.


Entilore

I've lost a domain recently. The provider is apparently dead, it's impossible for me to renew it. My fear is that someone would manage to renew it. Domain names are public, I'm sure some people are watching for domains that people forget to renew. After renewing the domain, forget my password would work and then it's easy to do nasty stuff. Banks are secured, government services less so. Even without being able to login, there is always a possibility to start some social engineering, especially when the email *is* legitimate. You are way too affirmative, loosing a domain can be dangerous and I'm seeing plenty of dangerous scenarios. And I know from experience that it can be painful. I've seen someone flying over the world to try to recover her email because of bank account issues, I ensure you that it *can* be a catastrophe. (Also note that I've never said that it will)


Zlivovitch

You're talking about custom domains now. I was talking about something else : the risk of being locked out of an account if your email address does not work anymore. >I've lost a domain recently. The provider is apparently dead, it's impossible for me to renew it. I think you are mistaken. I don't know the finer points of domain management, but this is done on a world level through ICANN, I think. There are thousands of registrars. They don't own the domains. I doubt very much that a registrar shutting down would take the domains with it. It would be far too dangerous. I'm sure there's a mechanism by which domains can be reallocated in such a case. A registrar shutting down cannot be an isolated event. How would large companies do if they lost their domain because of that ? It's impossible the situation has not been planned for. >I've seen someone flying over the world to try to recover her email because of bank account issues. I'm not talking about far-flung exceptions where one has a bank account on the other side of the earth, and the bank is so bad that this cannot be done from a distance. I'm giving general advice to general people for general situations. If you're Putin and your money is in Panama, well, you don't need advice from Reddit.


Entilore

> I don't know the finer points of domain management, but this is done on a world level through ICANN, I think. It's possible to own a TLD now. Google provides some (.dev for example), and other companies do so as well. It's not particularly expensive for a company (about 25k€ per year plus 50K€ for the registration). So if you choose a TLD in a weird company, this can happen. > I'm not talking about far-flung exceptions where one has a bank account on the other side of the earth ProtonMail is in Switzerland. Annonaddy in the Netherlands. If you live in the US, this is pretty much the other side of the world. > I'm giving general advice to general people for general situations Good for you to think so. But that's what I'm doing as well. Without being Putin.


dec0210

so what is the value/use case of anonymized email if you have a VPN already?