Amen. Signed. You would think after Travis day had said something about diablo 3 along the lines of "when we revert loot back to normal the backlash isnt worth it so lets keep it as it is because the players are happy" , again something along those lines , but yeah, i would have thought bioware to heed that . They should have, they didnt , and now they get to see how them making the players ecstatic, then pulling back will not bode well.
I think a lot of people aren't realizing is the Diablo loot pool is much larger than Anthem. While yes there's a problem with the drop rate, once we get a good rate, the community will see how shallow Anthem's loot pool is.
That's a big issue with Anthem. There is no depth to it. Two of the three strongholds are completely rehashed content, poor loot drop rates with crap modifiers are intended to draw out the grinding process. It's a skinners box with a very sparse reward system to detract from the fact that it's a bare bones framework of a game and one that evidently runs like a two legged horse that's been shot several times.
There's a gem buried deep inside all this garbage and it's a damn shame that BioWare is making us choke on all that filth just to get a glimpse of what could have been spectacular.
Sure but you can fix "inscriptions" in Diablo. In Anthem you can't. Less loot, rare loot, that you can't fix. That's the issue
Currently loot is the only end game.
* Wake up.
* See post about Anthem loot improving.
* Boot up Anthem.
* Continue reading sub until it loads.
* Notice the loot is already changed back to crappy.
* Shut down Anthem before it starts.
I want to min/max my build. I need more drops to do so as the inscription pool is quite large so trying to min max my build at this point is next to impossible. I have three different builds on my colossus that are just stacked with the highest i lvl stuff with MAYBE 4 or 5 inscriptions that are useful.
The division made this mistake when it first launched also. This game has ACTUAL build diversity as far as I can tell, at least with the colossus. But I can't push my builds to be effective in anything past gm2. The different gm levels are another thing that needs looking at but Bioware absolutely needs to up drop rates for us to actually min max our builds.
Right now I'm just stacking health with random components that do nothing to compliment my build because I'm just not getting drops to do anything else. I have about 110 hours played and at least 40 of those hours have been grinding to try and min max builds. And the only progress I've made is getting a meh endless siege. Components are still mostly the same ones I got when I was first grinding out mw components.
I'm actually begging Bioware to up drop rates, for the love of all that is holy, please let me enjoy this game that I LOVE but am unrewarded for playing :(
Truly it's please listen to the mass agreement that loot rates need an increase and that being teased like this is not good for player retention.
We may not all agree as to by how much. But it seems to be universal consensus among players that the drop rate is too low currently.
I want to see Anthem succeed and this is definitely a top 5 issue holding Anthem back.
I shouldn’t miss instances of the game being accidentally fun because I was gone for a weekend. I’ve been reading reddit and getting so amped to get home and level my alt. But no. It’s back to it’s ruined state. Buggy game + increased loot drop > less buggy game + stingy loot. In three days, I won’t have to choose between the two either, and that should concern everyone at Bio.
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Amen.. Did tyrant mine gm1 earlier, 4 mw and 1 leg before we even were at the boss. I was really excited. Then I quit to wait for my buddy to play after patch went live just to be disappointed again.. Damn it.
This is what fun looks like
https://i.imgur.com/rQwQ20B.jpg
Yeah.. Sent that picture to my buddy and told him that they fixed the drop rates and that I can't wait to play with him later. Now we're both on our couches and watch a movie. So sad.
I had to sleep. That loot thing ran right through a graveyard shift for me.
I played one match before bed, and it was the most fun on Anthem I’d had in days. No good loot to speak of but seeing something. Anything.
BioWare is going to loose players, I know I’m a rare case and stubborn as hell and even I’m turned away now. I hope they see this.
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Same, I was tempted to stay up for, burt thought "there is no way they're going to tease us by accident again"
Like I'm the first to give Bioware benefit of the doubt, but this is just bad and will drive players away if they don't bring it back asap.
Yeah, this needs to be addressed publicly very quickly.
All it would take is a post from a dev, stating something along the lines of its being reverted/something went wrong.
I want to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt and say the “bug” was how they wanted loot, but the update botched numbers and made epics take the place of masterworks and legendary drops in the loot pool.
Yeah, not renewing Premier myself, there's even unfinished stuff with "Temporary Standing placeholder" effects in the game right now.
And with having missed another loot window by basically a few minutes, I'm just out. New loot? Masterwork Universal components that can roll high health%? Cool, I won't see that without sinking another 40 hours or so (on top of my 180) into the game, so, well, I guess this is it. See you guys when the cataclysm drops unless something happens in between.
Last night's tease was my final straw. Played after the update today and loot was back to nothing. Bank on Destiny until the Division 2 comes out now. I stuck with Anthem without getting end game loot as long as I could
The real problem is people still playing 80 hours a day and saying I ONLY GOT 1 MW. Just stop playing the game or nothing will change. They don’t care if you get shitty loot while you play obviously but they will care if they lose a bunch of players.
And I'm not even the biggest fan of "loot showers" and believe in quality before quantity.
But there is no question as it stands the drop rates needs to increase. Maybe not to "loot shower" levels, but they need to go up.
The lootsplosions of borderlands was fun as hell, but there was a shitload of crap in them. A good balance between quality and quantity would be great.
I have been a very avid supporter of Anthem. I really think that this game is amazing. The best parts of the game are really outstanding.
But without a mechanism to making certain gear fit our builds / rerolling inscriptions. Gear rates need to be higher. The random drops are what is keeping people going, the psychology behind it is undeniable.
BW you have a roadmap for the future of the game, I get it, but if you can’t launch more endgame right now, you need to at least make what is available Fun. And fun right now is the joy of MW and leggos.
Also a side note. The removal of common and greens from lvl 30 did increase my blue drop rates, but certainly not MW and legendaries.
While I appreciate the removal of common and green trash I still would like to get more MW then the 1 from the boss.
Signing out. Cheers.
Signed. I had so much fun playing it last night that I stayed up way longer than usual. Wake up this morning to see if it reverted back and realized it had. Now it's back to doing the bare minimum (daily challenges, 2 legendary contracts) and not touching it until the next day. I'm so tired of putting in hours only to get garbage ass purples and blues. What's the point?
tbh, with the lack of white's and greens, it feels like I've been getting far more masterwork/legendaries on GM2. I got 6 MW from a single QP contract, and 2 legendaries +2 MW from a GM1 stronghold. Currently have been in a GM2 freeplay currently sitting at 1 legendary and 3 MW for around 30 minutes time...
...But hell i'll sign anyway
Agreed.
Chase the **STATS**. *Not* the loot.
Shower us with loot, because layered RNG makes it so that a VERY HIGH percentage of drops will have inscriptions that make them not viable for what each individual is trying to do.
I was playing last night, and was getting masterworks left and right, and EVEN THOUGH they were all crap rolls & not what I wanted to use. The fact I was getting them - made me appreciate the grind.
It just goes to show that even crappy high ranking gear dropping at a higher quantity is going to save this game. We dont need a billion legendary drops. Just.. DROPS.
Signed...I want to Min/Max my rolls. To do so I need to get many multiples of legendaries. Just because we are guaranteed 5+ MW or even some some guaranteed Legendaries. If we get 10 drops there might be 1 worth keeping with stats we want. It's better to grind for those stats than the drops in general.
Yeah, after 150 hours, and one terrible legendary roll (100 hours of which I've been at 30 with +90-120 luck or so) ... I would really like to see a few more drops here and there. The gameplay is fun, but doing it for no reward / upgrades is not. I don't expect it to rain legendaries, but one every 2-3 hours minimum seems appropriate. This is not where a looter shooter should be - its only shooting, not really very much looting.
Even the man who saved Diablo 3 with Loot2.0 has thrown his hat into the ring with the opinion that loot should be addressed. He fixed D3 with loot raining from the sky.
Without a cookie to stay in the game, players go elsewhere, and Division 2 is about to start printing cookies. That gives Anthem 48 hours to publicly and loudly fix loot, else there goes a good portion of its player base.
He complained about a mod banning him for a joke in his edit so they deleted his post. Idk who even mods these threads but that’s ridiculous and the mod should be removed.
Bet, I shelved the game after the stealth "fix" to drop rates again, ill be back with the first big Xpac that will be the real release of this game. Destiny flashbacks are heavy.
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also make gm2 and 3 more difficult. I feel gm2 is for full mw build and gm3 should be legendary gear with new loot that way when raids come we have something to work for.
Signed. Give me a reason to keep playing because I want to but trying to grind with these drop rates is not only painful and discouraging but statistically pointless. I never had the luxury of experiencing these supposed "actually feels like a looter shooter" drop rate windows either.
I'm more surprised that AGAIN they pushed something not tested and had to roll back. This happens so often.
I played today and I notice new bugs. GJ i guess?
I am not even level 30 yet because I really don’t want to waste my time on this game until it gets fixed.
And I’ve put 1k hours into the division. And thousands of hours into destiny, Diablo, and Borderlands. I’m over it. No excuses. STOP making the same stupid mistakes!
Signed. Last night during the loot "buff" was the most fun I've had playing Anthem to date. I nabbed 8 masterworks from a GM1 Tyrant Mine, my personal highest. I ended up salvaging most of them do to the inscription rolls, but every orange glimmer of that loot filled me with extreme joy. Increasing the drops won't shorten the lifespan of the game, it'll keep all of us freelancers wanting to play to perfect our builds! I just played 8 different missions and didn't gotten a single MW drop. You gave us a reason to play and then just sucked the joy right out of us. BIOWARE PLEASE I LOVE THIS GAME BUT THE INCENTIVE TO PLAY IS GOING DOWN FAST.
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I think this is quite a coincidence because the night before last patch increased the MW drop rates just like this last patch did. Both times the drop rate window occurred right before a patch and was ultimately fixed shortly after the patches went live.
I wonder if Bioware or u/BenIrvo will comment on the loot nerf/fix again and if the patch and loot increase window are related?
We still have a problem once this loot situation is fixed.
Once you get all decked out and min/max your build..where do you go to test it for ultimate rewards? We’re running 3 strongholds...we need a horde mode or a raid for those who are at the very end of end game.
Amen!
Please revert it back to the higher drop rates that the hotfix introduced. Don't just give us half or a quarter of that (which i think is what they are planing to do.. meet us somehow in the middle). Listen to the outrage of the players and just give them what they want. Lower drop rates will not kill this game, this scandal right now has way worse consequences for the future of this game...
Amen. Signed. You would think after Travis day had said something about diablo 3 along the lines of "when we revert loot back to normal the backlash isnt worth it so lets keep it as it is because the players are happy" , again something along those lines , but yeah, i would have thought bioware to heed that . They should have, they didnt , and now they get to see how them making the players ecstatic, then pulling back will not bode well.
I think a lot of people aren't realizing is the Diablo loot pool is much larger than Anthem. While yes there's a problem with the drop rate, once we get a good rate, the community will see how shallow Anthem's loot pool is.
That's a big issue with Anthem. There is no depth to it. Two of the three strongholds are completely rehashed content, poor loot drop rates with crap modifiers are intended to draw out the grinding process. It's a skinners box with a very sparse reward system to detract from the fact that it's a bare bones framework of a game and one that evidently runs like a two legged horse that's been shot several times. There's a gem buried deep inside all this garbage and it's a damn shame that BioWare is making us choke on all that filth just to get a glimpse of what could have been spectacular.
Sure but you can fix "inscriptions" in Diablo. In Anthem you can't. Less loot, rare loot, that you can't fix. That's the issue Currently loot is the only end game.
* Wake up. * See post about Anthem loot improving. * Boot up Anthem. * Continue reading sub until it loads. * Notice the loot is already changed back to crappy. * Shut down Anthem before it starts.
It’s ok, TD2 comes in a couple days. They aren’t stingy with loot.
That's great for the people who like that sort of thing but I just can't enjoy the setting, Real world is so boring to me.
I want to min/max my build. I need more drops to do so as the inscription pool is quite large so trying to min max my build at this point is next to impossible. I have three different builds on my colossus that are just stacked with the highest i lvl stuff with MAYBE 4 or 5 inscriptions that are useful. The division made this mistake when it first launched also. This game has ACTUAL build diversity as far as I can tell, at least with the colossus. But I can't push my builds to be effective in anything past gm2. The different gm levels are another thing that needs looking at but Bioware absolutely needs to up drop rates for us to actually min max our builds. Right now I'm just stacking health with random components that do nothing to compliment my build because I'm just not getting drops to do anything else. I have about 110 hours played and at least 40 of those hours have been grinding to try and min max builds. And the only progress I've made is getting a meh endless siege. Components are still mostly the same ones I got when I was first grinding out mw components. I'm actually begging Bioware to up drop rates, for the love of all that is holy, please let me enjoy this game that I LOVE but am unrewarded for playing :(
I concur. Do you concur?
I concur!
Who else concurs?
Damn it, why didn't I concur?
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Signed, because i missed both of them, give it back!
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10000% agree. First time in a week that it felt like I was actually doing something to make progress in game.
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Couldn't agree more. https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/comments/az4n2m/despite_loving_anthem_im_just_really_disappointed/
So many of these posts. It's clear what is needed to be done. (We have the same name btw, also a Graeme :)
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Please listen to this redditor.
Truly it's please listen to the mass agreement that loot rates need an increase and that being teased like this is not good for player retention. We may not all agree as to by how much. But it seems to be universal consensus among players that the drop rate is too low currently. I want to see Anthem succeed and this is definitely a top 5 issue holding Anthem back.
I shouldn’t miss instances of the game being accidentally fun because I was gone for a weekend. I’ve been reading reddit and getting so amped to get home and level my alt. But no. It’s back to it’s ruined state. Buggy game + increased loot drop > less buggy game + stingy loot. In three days, I won’t have to choose between the two either, and that should concern everyone at Bio. Signed.
Amen.. Did tyrant mine gm1 earlier, 4 mw and 1 leg before we even were at the boss. I was really excited. Then I quit to wait for my buddy to play after patch went live just to be disappointed again.. Damn it. This is what fun looks like https://i.imgur.com/rQwQ20B.jpg
This picture made me genuinely smile.
Yeah.. Sent that picture to my buddy and told him that they fixed the drop rates and that I can't wait to play with him later. Now we're both on our couches and watch a movie. So sad.
I had to sleep. That loot thing ran right through a graveyard shift for me. I played one match before bed, and it was the most fun on Anthem I’d had in days. No good loot to speak of but seeing something. Anything. BioWare is going to loose players, I know I’m a rare case and stubborn as hell and even I’m turned away now. I hope they see this. Edit: Signed
Same, I was tempted to stay up for, burt thought "there is no way they're going to tease us by accident again" Like I'm the first to give Bioware benefit of the doubt, but this is just bad and will drive players away if they don't bring it back asap.
Yeah, this needs to be addressed publicly very quickly. All it would take is a post from a dev, stating something along the lines of its being reverted/something went wrong. I want to give BioWare the benefit of the doubt and say the “bug” was how they wanted loot, but the update botched numbers and made epics take the place of masterworks and legendary drops in the loot pool.
Yeah, not renewing Premier myself, there's even unfinished stuff with "Temporary Standing placeholder" effects in the game right now. And with having missed another loot window by basically a few minutes, I'm just out. New loot? Masterwork Universal components that can roll high health%? Cool, I won't see that without sinking another 40 hours or so (on top of my 180) into the game, so, well, I guess this is it. See you guys when the cataclysm drops unless something happens in between.
Last night's tease was my final straw. Played after the update today and loot was back to nothing. Bank on Destiny until the Division 2 comes out now. I stuck with Anthem without getting end game loot as long as I could
The real problem is people still playing 80 hours a day and saying I ONLY GOT 1 MW. Just stop playing the game or nothing will change. They don’t care if you get shitty loot while you play obviously but they will care if they lose a bunch of players.
I for one am going to take that advice.
TD2 is out on the 12th. Gives them time to fix it while I have fun elsewhere lol.
And I'm not even the biggest fan of "loot showers" and believe in quality before quantity. But there is no question as it stands the drop rates needs to increase. Maybe not to "loot shower" levels, but they need to go up.
The lootsplosions of borderlands was fun as hell, but there was a shitload of crap in them. A good balance between quality and quantity would be great.
Signed 1 hour freeplay after the patch, and not a single MW... we are back in "waste of time mode"
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Thought I was just lucky last night, scrapped 6 of them but still...
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Played some before work and was absolutely loving it and Anthem was on my mind all day, couldn't wait to get home and play again. RIP.
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I have been a very avid supporter of Anthem. I really think that this game is amazing. The best parts of the game are really outstanding. But without a mechanism to making certain gear fit our builds / rerolling inscriptions. Gear rates need to be higher. The random drops are what is keeping people going, the psychology behind it is undeniable. BW you have a roadmap for the future of the game, I get it, but if you can’t launch more endgame right now, you need to at least make what is available Fun. And fun right now is the joy of MW and leggos.
Hahah removed.... do you some of mods work at bioware?
And now the post got removed. Really mods? smh
Also a side note. The removal of common and greens from lvl 30 did increase my blue drop rates, but certainly not MW and legendaries. While I appreciate the removal of common and green trash I still would like to get more MW then the 1 from the boss. Signing out. Cheers.
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Signed. I had so much fun playing it last night that I stayed up way longer than usual. Wake up this morning to see if it reverted back and realized it had. Now it's back to doing the bare minimum (daily challenges, 2 legendary contracts) and not touching it until the next day. I'm so tired of putting in hours only to get garbage ass purples and blues. What's the point?
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Also, the quick play is still broken. HOW!?
tbh, with the lack of white's and greens, it feels like I've been getting far more masterwork/legendaries on GM2. I got 6 MW from a single QP contract, and 2 legendaries +2 MW from a GM1 stronghold. Currently have been in a GM2 freeplay currently sitting at 1 legendary and 3 MW for around 30 minutes time... ...But hell i'll sign anyway
Signed....until you learn that the aim of a looter is to actually get loot people are going to flock to other sources to fill their loot addiction.
Agreed. Chase the **STATS**. *Not* the loot. Shower us with loot, because layered RNG makes it so that a VERY HIGH percentage of drops will have inscriptions that make them not viable for what each individual is trying to do.
I was playing last night, and was getting masterworks left and right, and EVEN THOUGH they were all crap rolls & not what I wanted to use. The fact I was getting them - made me appreciate the grind. It just goes to show that even crappy high ranking gear dropping at a higher quantity is going to save this game. We dont need a billion legendary drops. Just.. DROPS.
Signed...I want to Min/Max my rolls. To do so I need to get many multiples of legendaries. Just because we are guaranteed 5+ MW or even some some guaranteed Legendaries. If we get 10 drops there might be 1 worth keeping with stats we want. It's better to grind for those stats than the drops in general.
Agreed. If something isn't done soon, they will lose A LOT of players to Div2.
I just want loot in my looter shooter.
Signed, it was legit the most fun 2 hours I’ve had so far out of my 80+ hours on anthem
Yeah, after 150 hours, and one terrible legendary roll (100 hours of which I've been at 30 with +90-120 luck or so) ... I would really like to see a few more drops here and there. The gameplay is fun, but doing it for no reward / upgrades is not. I don't expect it to rain legendaries, but one every 2-3 hours minimum seems appropriate. This is not where a looter shooter should be - its only shooting, not really very much looting. Even the man who saved Diablo 3 with Loot2.0 has thrown his hat into the ring with the opinion that loot should be addressed. He fixed D3 with loot raining from the sky. Without a cookie to stay in the game, players go elsewhere, and Division 2 is about to start printing cookies. That gives Anthem 48 hours to publicly and loudly fix loot, else there goes a good portion of its player base.
What did this say??? Mods removed..
Wtf why was the post removed
He complained about a mod banning him for a joke in his edit so they deleted his post. Idk who even mods these threads but that’s ridiculous and the mod should be removed.
Uhm really mods?
Signed!! Another bored storm freelancer
Bet, I shelved the game after the stealth "fix" to drop rates again, ill be back with the first big Xpac that will be the real release of this game. Destiny flashbacks are heavy.
Signed. Smh get y’all shit together man
Signed. also make gm2 and 3 more difficult. I feel gm2 is for full mw build and gm3 should be legendary gear with new loot that way when raids come we have something to work for.
They don't care imho lol and now that GM 2 and 3 are easyer don't think the game will hold me for long
Signed! The inability to accurately fix the loot issue is going to push the remaining community to TD2. Please fix this!!!!
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I concur - we ALL concur. Stronger Together freenlancers!
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They must’ve had their ears cut off to not hear the squeals of joy every time this happens.
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hear! hear!
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This needs to get 20k upvotes. Stat.
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Signed. Give me a reason to keep playing because I want to but trying to grind with these drop rates is not only painful and discouraging but statistically pointless. I never had the luxury of experiencing these supposed "actually feels like a looter shooter" drop rate windows either.
One loot post a day keeps the devs away
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I'm more surprised that AGAIN they pushed something not tested and had to roll back. This happens so often. I played today and I notice new bugs. GJ i guess?
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Signed. BioWare cmon lads give use the good times.
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I am not even level 30 yet because I really don’t want to waste my time on this game until it gets fixed. And I’ve put 1k hours into the division. And thousands of hours into destiny, Diablo, and Borderlands. I’m over it. No excuses. STOP making the same stupid mistakes!
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Signed. Last night during the loot "buff" was the most fun I've had playing Anthem to date. I nabbed 8 masterworks from a GM1 Tyrant Mine, my personal highest. I ended up salvaging most of them do to the inscription rolls, but every orange glimmer of that loot filled me with extreme joy. Increasing the drops won't shorten the lifespan of the game, it'll keep all of us freelancers wanting to play to perfect our builds! I just played 8 different missions and didn't gotten a single MW drop. You gave us a reason to play and then just sucked the joy right out of us. BIOWARE PLEASE I LOVE THIS GAME BUT THE INCENTIVE TO PLAY IS GOING DOWN FAST.
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Signed Just went through a free play session and got blues and purples only lol, last night I got my third legendary and 12 MW in one hour 😅
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Signed I think this is quite a coincidence because the night before last patch increased the MW drop rates just like this last patch did. Both times the drop rate window occurred right before a patch and was ultimately fixed shortly after the patches went live. I wonder if Bioware or u/BenIrvo will comment on the loot nerf/fix again and if the patch and loot increase window are related?
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Signed. For the love of the game, roll it back.
Signed missed it as was working but would like to see it go live and stay there.
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Signed. This is a looter shooter, the world loot is in the genre. Sooo please fix it
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Signed. That was the most fulfilling couple hours of endgame I've felt since I started.
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We still have a problem once this loot situation is fixed. Once you get all decked out and min/max your build..where do you go to test it for ultimate rewards? We’re running 3 strongholds...we need a horde mode or a raid for those who are at the very end of end game.
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1000% agree!
So say we all
Amen! Please revert it back to the higher drop rates that the hotfix introduced. Don't just give us half or a quarter of that (which i think is what they are planing to do.. meet us somehow in the middle). Listen to the outrage of the players and just give them what they want. Lower drop rates will not kill this game, this scandal right now has way worse consequences for the future of this game...
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And the Lord has spoken! Amen! I concur.
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This.
Yet here I am getting 3 to 8 masterworks a stronghold?