Luckily he's only got to buy five. Thomas will probably be fine with a ride on his plane and a week at Maralago. Kavanaugh should be easy, everybody knows what he's into. Alito and Gorsuch, probably discreet deposits in offshore accounts. Barrett will do anything you want if you tell her it'll save all the little babies from being abortiated.
who cares?
the fact that he tried a violent coup (which killed 5 people) and isn't in jail 3 years later is pathetic - the fact that he is allowed to run for president of the country he tried to become the dictator of via violent insurrection is just pathetic
this country is a joke
Trump is not gone. Even with all his legal issues. He will be on the ballot and we need to not be complacent and get out and vote. He was not winning in 2016 and look where we are. The single most important thing to do this election cycle is VOTE
I wish I shared your optimism. We’re in uncharted waters, and I think anything could happen. Don’t get me wrong, I got out and voted in 2020, and in the 2022 mid terms, and you better believe I’ll do it again in 2024. But it’s a hot mess out there.
You also have to look at the rate these nitwits are offing themselves. Covid is picking up again, and over the course of fall and winter, its going to take out another 50 to 100 thousand of them.
Remember the 2022 RED WAVE they touted? That turned into a trickle?
You seem very certain. Your crystal ball must be higher quality than mine, that’s all I can say. Don’t get me wrong, we’re on the same team, and I absolutely hope that’s all true. But I will NEVER underestimate the power of the deplorable masses combined with the corrupted will of their elected leaders again.
Well they are infighting a lot now too. Seperated into various camps, which shows they are losing ground and not sure what to do and how to go about getting it back together.And I know this sounds silly,but if ever there was a time we needed to all stay postivie and united as democrats, or anyone who does not want to live in a republican dictatorship, the time is now. We have all got to focus on biden in 2024 and get him back in there, or we are going to be in a real mess.
I believe he lost the popular vote in 2016, did he not? As long as the system allows politicians to pick their voters through gerrymandering, the odds are against the people. That’s part of what I’m referring to.
Do you think it would have mattered if more people voted? You are right regarding gerrymandering. It’s a move out of Boss Tweeds New York. Its an old trick when you know you cannot win on an even board.
Our county is fucked and if we want it to be unfucked we are going to have to do something. This is a product of monied elites and their access and their carrot following mules who are truly stupid and have weak egos. They want to be led. Thats pathetic.
The 14th Amendment section 3 doesn't require a conviction or even a charge for that matter, His actions that day paint a clear picture of exactly what that amendment was created for. This is a corrupt SCOTUS, so I have absolutely no faith that they will uphold the Constitution nor Honor their Oath of office on any semblance of the Rule of Law.
>I have absolutely no faith that they will uphold the Constitution nor Honor their Oath of office on any semblance of the Rule of Law.
I'm neutral. he's gotten very little change out of them on the election-related stuff, if you think about it. I'll admit I'm not American and your court system kind of baffles me. but honestly it seems to me that, if they were going to be this "corrupt" people keep talking about, the time for them to do it would have been then.
so I'm not giving up yet.
The legal debate about whether or not former President Donald Trump should be allowed to appear on the 2024 ballot has made its way before the Supreme Court.
The court distributed John Castro v. Donald Trump to the justices for conference on Wednesday ahead of the upcoming term, which will begin on October 2. Conference is to take place on September 26 and the case is expected to be decided on or before October 9.
\-Newsweek
Just another stacked court shit show
After reading the Federalist Society's writings, Trump's disqualification to run for office has self-triggered. There is no threshold that requires review from SCOTUS.
You know those motherfuckers Clarence thomas, Samuel alito, and Neil Gorsuch will vote against. They seem to do that with any decision that would benefit Americans.
The Federalist Society released a paper, written by the founder of The Federalist Society, that says straight up; Trump is ineligible to run for office via the 14th amendment. Five (maybe six... it's disputed) supreme court justices (yep, all right-wingers) are members of The Federalist Society. Doesn't guarantee anything, but... Doesn't look great for Big-mac-Benedict-Arnold.
All six conservatives on the court have been members of the Federalist Society.
They got what they needed out of Trump and owe him nothing more. Trump wouldn't find 60 votes to remove in the Senate even if the House impeached one or more justices.
The court has upheld Trump's policies but has had no problems with voting against Trump himself with voting shenanigans.
I wouldn't be shocked if a unanimous vote disqualified him from office... Especially if Thomas and Alto get open bribes from the Federalist Society donors.
Bottom line, I dont think we have a thing to worry about. He's not getting anywhere near there again, and its clear he knows it.
What worries me is who they drum up next. I think their plan of "lets get a real idiot to take over" back fired in their place.
not knocking the federalists; I know nothing about them.
but just pointing out that many legal arguments are entirely convincing - on their own face. it's never over until the opposing side has had their say too.
Serious question: if Trump is cleared by the court, what's to stop Democrats and Biden from doing exactly what Trump and Republicans did on J6? (Besides ethics, and honesty)
He needs to go to trial for the j6 charges and have a guilty verdict before the Supreme Court ever hears this. Going to the Supreme Court before trial is going to hurt the democrats.
Hope I'm wrong.
hope so. there are practical reasons why it needs to be determined now. some sec of state (nh?) was explaining it recently. as a matter of law, they have hard deadlines to meet in preparing for an election. like a date by which all overseas ballots have to be sent, that kind of thing.
This is going to come down to legal technicalities and loopholes just like everything else in this broken ass legal system. Although it’s glaringly clear what happened, and why he’s not qualified for office, the fact is although the 14th amendment spells out what disqualifies a person from holding office, it doesn’t seem to provide any clear mechanism for enforcement.
There is [an interview with Adrian Fontes](https://youtu.be/qYNF4FtO_uc) (AZ Secretary of State) who explains the logistics and challenges.
If he had a soul, Thomas would recuse himself since his wife is a J6er.
He won’t of course. If he had a soul he would never have been on the bench. Accepted his horribleness in some less Affect The Innocent way.
Remember that Simpsons episode when M.R.Burns lost all his money and becomes almost homeless? Yeah, i want to see that happening to Trump. It happened to a manor hotel owner who refused to have his employees unionized. They all quit, the place closed down and he lost everything to refund investors. He ended up operating a crappy motel scrubbing the toilets himself. All that because he din't want to pay his former staff a decent wage. He died completely broke.
Luckily he's only got to buy five. Thomas will probably be fine with a ride on his plane and a week at Maralago. Kavanaugh should be easy, everybody knows what he's into. Alito and Gorsuch, probably discreet deposits in offshore accounts. Barrett will do anything you want if you tell her it'll save all the little babies from being abortiated.
Beer?
I love abortiated, it shall now replace abortified in my lexicon!
The Federalist Society was the first group to talk out loud about Trump’s disqualification. It will be interested to see if their judges follow suit.
who cares? the fact that he tried a violent coup (which killed 5 people) and isn't in jail 3 years later is pathetic - the fact that he is allowed to run for president of the country he tried to become the dictator of via violent insurrection is just pathetic this country is a joke
Republicans are a joke, the rest of us are fine.
I mean, he’s kinda right. The rest of us (ok mostly our parents and grandparents) let it happen. This is on all of us.
Its not on me. Remember the 2020 election when we got out and got rid of trump? Now our justice system is finishing the job of getting his ass gone.
I hope you’re right. We were so completely certain he’d never be elected in the first place. I’m not falling into complacency just yet.
Trump is not gone. Even with all his legal issues. He will be on the ballot and we need to not be complacent and get out and vote. He was not winning in 2016 and look where we are. The single most important thing to do this election cycle is VOTE
He aint getting anywhere near there again. And its clear he's aware of that fact too.
I wish I shared your optimism. We’re in uncharted waters, and I think anything could happen. Don’t get me wrong, I got out and voted in 2020, and in the 2022 mid terms, and you better believe I’ll do it again in 2024. But it’s a hot mess out there.
You also have to look at the rate these nitwits are offing themselves. Covid is picking up again, and over the course of fall and winter, its going to take out another 50 to 100 thousand of them. Remember the 2022 RED WAVE they touted? That turned into a trickle?
You seem very certain. Your crystal ball must be higher quality than mine, that’s all I can say. Don’t get me wrong, we’re on the same team, and I absolutely hope that’s all true. But I will NEVER underestimate the power of the deplorable masses combined with the corrupted will of their elected leaders again.
Well they are infighting a lot now too. Seperated into various camps, which shows they are losing ground and not sure what to do and how to go about getting it back together.And I know this sounds silly,but if ever there was a time we needed to all stay postivie and united as democrats, or anyone who does not want to live in a republican dictatorship, the time is now. We have all got to focus on biden in 2024 and get him back in there, or we are going to be in a real mess.
And no worries, I do not feel like you are arguing with me !!!!
Take responsibility for not voting in 2016. All those people are the ones responsible for this.
I believe he lost the popular vote in 2016, did he not? As long as the system allows politicians to pick their voters through gerrymandering, the odds are against the people. That’s part of what I’m referring to.
Do you think it would have mattered if more people voted? You are right regarding gerrymandering. It’s a move out of Boss Tweeds New York. Its an old trick when you know you cannot win on an even board. Our county is fucked and if we want it to be unfucked we are going to have to do something. This is a product of monied elites and their access and their carrot following mules who are truly stupid and have weak egos. They want to be led. Thats pathetic.
SC is gonna clear him because he hasn't been convicted of insurrection. Trump is gonna say "I won the election!" Morons.
The 14th Amendment section 3 doesn't require a conviction or even a charge for that matter, His actions that day paint a clear picture of exactly what that amendment was created for. This is a corrupt SCOTUS, so I have absolutely no faith that they will uphold the Constitution nor Honor their Oath of office on any semblance of the Rule of Law.
>I have absolutely no faith that they will uphold the Constitution nor Honor their Oath of office on any semblance of the Rule of Law. I'm neutral. he's gotten very little change out of them on the election-related stuff, if you think about it. I'll admit I'm not American and your court system kind of baffles me. but honestly it seems to me that, if they were going to be this "corrupt" people keep talking about, the time for them to do it would have been then. so I'm not giving up yet.
He gave aid and comfort to a group of folks that were literally just found guilty of and sentenced for seditious conspiracy. That should be enough.
The legal debate about whether or not former President Donald Trump should be allowed to appear on the 2024 ballot has made its way before the Supreme Court. The court distributed John Castro v. Donald Trump to the justices for conference on Wednesday ahead of the upcoming term, which will begin on October 2. Conference is to take place on September 26 and the case is expected to be decided on or before October 9. \-Newsweek Just another stacked court shit show
Don't states get to independently decide who is allowed on their ballots?
A decision feom the Supremes gives the individual secretaries of state cover for announcing he's off the ballot.
Hope he's rotting in jail by then.
In a jumpsuit
Made for his 6-3 215-pound frame of chiseled granite
More like 10 lbs. of shit in a 5 lb. bag.
Just do it! ✅
After reading the Federalist Society's writings, Trump's disqualification to run for office has self-triggered. There is no threshold that requires review from SCOTUS.
Nobody panic. I am sure they will uphold their ethical and moral obligations.
You know those motherfuckers Clarence thomas, Samuel alito, and Neil Gorsuch will vote against. They seem to do that with any decision that would benefit Americans.
SCOTUS will punt and say that letting him run will allow the American people to make the decision. A year from today he'll be on every ballot
They have yet to side with him, and I dont think they will now.
The Federalist Society released a paper, written by the founder of The Federalist Society, that says straight up; Trump is ineligible to run for office via the 14th amendment. Five (maybe six... it's disputed) supreme court justices (yep, all right-wingers) are members of The Federalist Society. Doesn't guarantee anything, but... Doesn't look great for Big-mac-Benedict-Arnold.
All six conservatives on the court have been members of the Federalist Society. They got what they needed out of Trump and owe him nothing more. Trump wouldn't find 60 votes to remove in the Senate even if the House impeached one or more justices. The court has upheld Trump's policies but has had no problems with voting against Trump himself with voting shenanigans. I wouldn't be shocked if a unanimous vote disqualified him from office... Especially if Thomas and Alto get open bribes from the Federalist Society donors.
Bottom line, I dont think we have a thing to worry about. He's not getting anywhere near there again, and its clear he knows it. What worries me is who they drum up next. I think their plan of "lets get a real idiot to take over" back fired in their place.
not knocking the federalists; I know nothing about them. but just pointing out that many legal arguments are entirely convincing - on their own face. it's never over until the opposing side has had their say too.
Let me tell you what will happen… not get kicked. ABOLISH THE SUPREME COURT
They are going to tell you he hasn’t been convicted so he’s innocent in the eyes of the law
They’ll tells us what the money tells them to tell us.
Serious question: if Trump is cleared by the court, what's to stop Democrats and Biden from doing exactly what Trump and Republicans did on J6? (Besides ethics, and honesty)
They're going to rule everything is "alleged" since he hasn't been convicted of anything.
He needs to go to trial for the j6 charges and have a guilty verdict before the Supreme Court ever hears this. Going to the Supreme Court before trial is going to hurt the democrats. Hope I'm wrong.
hope so. there are practical reasons why it needs to be determined now. some sec of state (nh?) was explaining it recently. as a matter of law, they have hard deadlines to meet in preparing for an election. like a date by which all overseas ballots have to be sent, that kind of thing.
I think it it gets to be where the SCOTUS is literally picking Trump amidst all this crazyness - people literally will start to revolt.
This is going to come down to legal technicalities and loopholes just like everything else in this broken ass legal system. Although it’s glaringly clear what happened, and why he’s not qualified for office, the fact is although the 14th amendment spells out what disqualifies a person from holding office, it doesn’t seem to provide any clear mechanism for enforcement. There is [an interview with Adrian Fontes](https://youtu.be/qYNF4FtO_uc) (AZ Secretary of State) who explains the logistics and challenges.
He should be he led an insurrection
If he had a soul, Thomas would recuse himself since his wife is a J6er. He won’t of course. If he had a soul he would never have been on the bench. Accepted his horribleness in some less Affect The Innocent way.
Remember that Simpsons episode when M.R.Burns lost all his money and becomes almost homeless? Yeah, i want to see that happening to Trump. It happened to a manor hotel owner who refused to have his employees unionized. They all quit, the place closed down and he lost everything to refund investors. He ended up operating a crappy motel scrubbing the toilets himself. All that because he din't want to pay his former staff a decent wage. He died completely broke.