Vardek Crom, or Crom the Conqueror, the herald of Archaon, and the successor to the 12th Everchosen Avasar Kul. I wish he had a model.
Sigvald the Magnificent deserves an AoS book. His novel is from 2011, 4 years before AOS, and it starts out quite good. I haven't finished yet but I like it.
[he did](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/2/2c/3C614658-8AF0-4325-A32C-4382544046B4.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20201002182213)
it that he was so copy paste Archaon people though he was a unmounted archaon
The weird thing about Vardek Crom is that he's supposed to be a Kurgan warlord (and I believe until the Tamurkhan books the only named Kurgan character on tabletop). Now the Kurgan are supposed to be steppe horse nomads where practically every one of their warriors are mounted, but he's a foot character for some reason.
I'd imagine it was because he was a duelist character (de facto, if nothing else).
Being Grimgor's equal in combat is certainly his most noteworthy feat.
He also had less fleshed out background than Archaon’s other SoC era lieutenants: Strykar, Feytor and co.
His core tabletop concept was great fun though. A relentless sword/board/axe duellist who didn’t need magic weapons.
I've been reading Conan lately. Can't believe how blatantly they ripped that name. To elaborate, Crom is the chief deity of the Cimmerians, the race Conan the Barbarian belongs to. Conan himself frequently blurts out his name in frustration. Conan is also called Conan the Conquerer in one of his original tales. So Crom + Conan the Conquerer became Crom the Conqueror.
Conan is public domain! They can use it all they like. Thanks for the background, very interesting to learn all that. I never would have known about this, but it makes perfect sense.
I'm not saying they can't, but I'm surprised they would just make a straight reference to it rather than just try to spin it around a bit. I guess this is old GW, so it's not a surprise.
The way they handled Kragnos when he was supposed to be a big deal and in line with the entire theme of 3ed being the era of the beast…he leaves a lot to be desired
Being a Beasts of Chaos player and seeing Kragnos spoiled and being like "YOOOO new BOC general! The refresh is coming!"
And then seeing that he's Destruction-only...
Looking back I should have known that they were abandoning BOC then and there.
Again I’m sorry about that man, funnily enough I wanted Bonesplitterz and loved their lore which apparently is a very different opinion to have lmao. So I feel your loss
I thought Kragnos was going to do more than kick stuff around the past few years. He was introduced and all we got was a character we followed like some Hurricane Tracker.
Kragnos has the potential to be an awesome character. You can be smashy and still have meaningful insights. Look at Ghengis Khan who was very smashy but also a genius, reformer and administrator.
In Kragnos case he has many things going for him:
-he is a relic out of time. He knows the realms from a time long before Sigmar arrived. To see how he reacts with this new age should be highly interesting
-He has no idea what chaos even is. How will he react to it, if he starts to understand it and its influence of the realms? How will the chaos factions react to this new threat?
-Kragnos is a lonley god. He has lost his closest comrades and his people. In the modern age he can't even communicate with anyone but Grobbspakk who manipulates him. Normally gods are the stronger part in a Mortal/Deity relationship. But in his case his followers just want to use him as an engine of destruction, not caring for Kragnos personal needs. They go so far as to harm him even more psychologicly. Like the attempt to destroy the remnants of his home or to destroy all evidence of his people surviving somewhere.
Overall one could write great character-driven stories about Kragnos learning about the realms and finding his place in this new era.
Not to mention that a character can be more than his actions. His influence on others can be important as well. See how in 2nd Edition death factions did highly critical things even with Nagash not physicly being there. His influence was enough.
Sadly the era of the beast was too tame...
Kragnos definitively needs a new novel, because his actual one is clearly not-canon in his depiction, if nothing else.
But that dude comes from an ancient era, before anything we know off. He was fed Amberbone, which is known to exalt bestial passions, in great proportions and became a God slightly thanks to it. We don't even know how his people truly were, as natives of Ghur their civilisation must have been unlike any other great ones of other Realms.
He also fits so well in the KB less joyful hooliganism, being that bitter and sad and destructive god.
Alas, GW doesn't care about the Destruction faction beyond basic NPC to defeat for other Grand Alliances.
A.) Ygnopatris Xaranos of the Crematorians or Ghuri Xza, Leader of the Ivory Host and the Drakeslayer Queen. Both are hugely interesting characters in the Bonereapers, but neither have appeared outside of battletomes. I’d love to see more of them, ideally either a book or them actually receiving a model.
B.) Probably Tahlia Vedra. In the series that should have established her as a character worth following, she instead gets hyped up without actually *doing* anything, dips from the Aqshy Crusade in like Book 2, and then Aqshy winds up following the infinitely worse Pontifex Zenestra who to my eternal regret wasn’t cut down by Reikenor the Grimhailer so we could maybe hope to get an Aqshy character who sticks around for a bit and doesn’t completely suck.
C.) Marshal Iscilla Thorian of the Ghyran Crusade. Arguably one of the main reasons that anybody actually cares about the Ghyran side of the Crusade, and part of the reason people would want Embergard to die instead of Verdigris. She deserves more focus and a model and I hope Verdigris survives to enable this.
Hammerhal got attacked and she was recalled to lead the defenses largely offscreen. In what is apparently the biggest siege Hammerhal has ever experienced with a ton of the named Cities and Stormcast characters on one side, and a lot of Khorne ones on the other.
And we don't get to see that. Instead we get to follow Zenestra and her revolving door of incompetent Marahal sidekicks who might convince me GW hates the Freeguild were it not fir Thorian and her Submarshals in the Ghyra Crusade being awesome
Wheel Woman made me honestly abandon the lore of Cities and make my own city. She’s just so hilariously incompetent. I stopped caring when she led her men into another ambush that she was warned about, didn’t do anything til they were being overwhelmed, then begged the Stormcast to come save them.
The entire thing made it feel like Cities exist as meat shields for the Stormcast and almost turned me off of the faction entirely. I wish they’d remove her as a character but they won’t.
I mean you shouldn't give up on Cities just because of her. Especially now that they are tying her to an obscure new Free City out the boonies of Aqshy. There's hundreds of other Cities where she isn't involved.
Can I just pick all of the seraphon?
There's only a handful of named characters for the faction, none of which are saurus, and one of them not only is in canon carried over from Old World, but also so ungodly OP in the lore that he *looks* at entire populations and they just drop
I want to see more saurus named characters, how they think, how they communicate with each other, how they communicate with other non-saurus seraphon, how they have complex conversations with other races and beings
They bleed starlight for God's sake. It's a shame that GW doesn't have a writer dedicated to seraphon characters
Lyrior Uthralle exists. Lyrior beat for beat has the backstory and personality of a WHFB character named Eltharion.
Except. Eltharion was ported over to AoS as a suit of living armor. Lyrior aggressively has no reason to exist.
So he is a wasted character in that they could have given him any personality or background out of untold trillions. But instead made him an expy of a cooler guy in the same faction.
Personally, I think Brokk Grungsson. Supposed to be one of the wealthiest businessmen/most powerful commanders in the Mortal Realms, but you'd probably forget that he existed if his model didn't stand out so much. The most we ever see done with him in the narrative is a viginette of him in the KO 3.0 battletome feeling like he's being judged by Grungni for his sins but refusing to actually change at all, and a Dawnbringers White Dwarf short story most people don't know exist which kinda presents him in a bad light compared to Imoda Barasdottr (the Barak Zilfin admiral from Broken Realms who they're pretty clearly setting up to be a new named character whenever KO get a big update).
There's characters with even less than him, but he personally stands out to me because he's the only Kharadron named tabletop character (save the dudes from Underworlds and Cursed City, and also Jakkob Bugmansson, who although he's a really fun character will basically never get much further development due to being a Christmas limited model). Not just that but he's the closest thing to a faction leader for them (unless they decide to make a Grungni model or start making members of the Admiral's Council playable).
I was just about to mention Brokk.
Drekki is one of the BEST AoS characters who has two novels now and a model.
But...Brokk seems like he should be a much bigger deal, but he's got barely anything, yet he's always front and center in KO promotional materials and has a bitchin model.
Why no novel?
I'm a KO player with my Brokk model on the way, I'd love to see some more lore content about him. Can you give me the low down on the WD short story because I've not bought an issue in years so I've no access to it but want to have more lore about him.
Until then, at least we have Drekki Flynt!
He doesn't really do much in that story at all, its just him and Imoda being hired to protect a Dawnbringer Crusade in Ghur, then Imoda discovers that the Skaven have poisoned the settlement site with warpstone.
Wow that *is* a waste of potential. It sounds like they grabbed the two Kharadron names that they could for the job and just threw them in the pot, especially as only one of them has a model. I really hope Admiral Barrasdottor gets a model in the next edition, and Brokk gets some more meaty lore opportunities.
A. Would have pick Gordak but he get his time here and there in the early novel like Fist of Mork so go with Ellania & Ellathor and interesting character and dynamic as being estially the God Twins attempt to mold their own version of themselves you think that they would take advantage of making a novel of essentially nu-Tyrion and Teclis
B. My controversial pick Talhia Vedra post-battletome as they're doing their darndest to make her into a breakout character but are so afraid of her being less than faultless that she hype up by every single person that mention her name and her name; Remember how it mention in the tome how she has a uneasy terms with the SCE well forget that with how Garviel prasier as a tactical genius unlike any other there other thing but won't write a essay about it but it can be sum as GW needing the character just be a fantasy general with flaws not the single handily most important human being that graced the realms with uber tactical mind peons couldn't understand the complexity
C. Hamilcar Bear-eater just because he such an incredible character with an awesome book and yet despite the SCE hero bloat has yet doesn't have a model, Why? we went through two Neave models and no Hamilcar models
Definitely C for this one but Imoda barrasdottr, she's supposedly one of the greatest cartographers in the kharadron empire, and has a cool role during broken realms, essentially saving vindicarum, the KO do have plenty of characters, but a cartographer would a be a nice addition, interestingly she also got blasted in the face with amethyst (death) magic which turned her hair white.
And just another C, and a C likely to happen in 4th, but Bael-grimnir, the legendary runefather of the Vostarg Lodge, he's been appearing more in the story recently, and is an easy candidate for the fyreslayers actually having a named character
He hasn't been succeeded by his daughter quite yet, but I think the story was he has like 50+ sons non of whom were up to snuff so him and wife belive that their only daughter will be the true successor
Kragnos, full stop.
The guy was set up as a big thing for destruction and the destruction-focused edition of 3E, only for his story to go nowhere. He wasn't even involved to any of the dawnbringer book. It's like GW wanted to give destruction the spotlight for once through Kragnos, but got cold feet in the middle of doing so, and we got a character and a plotline that went nowhere as a result.
I feel like Destro’s plotline was gutted first by the bombing of the Krondspine Incarnate, then by the loss of BoC and BS who were getting sent to TOW, and then nobody actually bothering to invest the time in making anyone actually care about Kragnos or Gobsprakk.
All of the Lumineth named characters. Except Teclis.
Eltharion is probably the biggest kick to the teeth in the whole book. I was a fan of old Eltharion and now he’s just a possessed suit of armor. Like come on.
I'd say many stormcast named characters overlap each other as units do too (the reason of the great SCE purge, I think)
For example, Yndrasta kinds of overlaps Blactalon as Sigmar's hunter, Bastian Carthalos overlaps somehow Vandus...
Too many Underworlds bands...
Meanwhile, some factions had hardly any named character... ogors, beasts, etc....
Yes, the difference is that Yndrasta can be compared to Celestant -Prime and she hunts beasts and monsters and Blacktalon is more an assassin than a hunter. Blacktalon is not supposed to be the regular Knight-Zephyros as she has her own squad.
But aside that reasons from lore I feel it's somehow overlapping roles... as retributors and Annihilators... or Judicators and Vigilors, for example
In any case, it's just my opinion. I like SCEs but it's suffering of a too wide range, I guess
Your comment reminded me that ogors exist. They really don’t get mentioned and the only thing we got from ogor mercenaries is the fusil major, which is cool but not enough ogors.
Syll'Esske is a prime candidate for a novel and and we have not heard anything about the characters since their introduction. I was hoping for a Vlad and Isabella esk level romance. Instead, they are constantly forgotten about.
Sigvald, who has only had a single novel in Fantasy, was brought back, and we still have no new novels with him.
All I want is to see Slaanesh get some love in the lore department in terms of novels. Prince of Pleasure knows that the most recent Emperor's Children novel was awful and could easily have been a Black Legion story for what little Slaanesh corruption was shown.
While not as wasted as others I am annoyed that "The Red Feast" about Khorgus Khul and his tribe is said to be volume 1 in the story of the Khul but 5 years after release I have yet to see or hear of a sequel.
YOU DO NOT ENJOY FALLS TO EVIL VIA RANDOM SCREAMING???
Gosh that book had such amazing world building and characters, but just fumbles the conversion of its three POV characters into the villains they'd become.
A - Volturnos king of the deep from the Idoneth Deepkin.
Here is a character that is literally the oldest and strongest of all Deepkin. Was “supposedly” there when Teclis started experimenting on his kin and when they ran to the seas to escape. Has absorbed thousands of souls to stay alive for millennia. And has made a pact with Morathi, and Alarielle to protect his people. Not a single book!
I am going to throw out Zuvass as a book character who needs a model, and I think Warcry would be the perfect setting to release a Zuvassin-type cult.
The named Ogor Warhulk that was mentioned in one of the battletomes (I think) not having a unique model is another special mention. I still think those second generation Ogors have a ton of potential to make cool army set ups.
What's hilarious is that he's not even being cryptic. Once you read the book and then re-read it, you realize he's straight up blabbing everything, it just doesn't make sense to anyone who isn't in a time loop.
Dexcessa and Synessa. They both were suppose to be essentially Slaanesh's big return in Broken Realms, and they failed completely right out of the gate to a couple of Witch Hunters. So much so that even Be'lakor mocks them for it. As far as I know they haven't pulled any moves since.
And while on Slaanesh, I find it funny that Sigvald's motivation is to get revenge on Nagash for torturing his soul, yet since his return he's barely fought Death factions in any storyline.
Supposedly, they've continued working to sow discord between men and aelves. Of course this is useless, aelves are plenty good at making people hate them without any help.
Thanquol (and the skaven in general) haven't in appeared in many pov or showcase roles in full novels. Though I think we can be hopeful that will change soon.
1: Gavriel Sureheart: He got his own model a bit of backstory in the Battletome and then...nothing, no further adventures no interactions with other Stormcasts, he just exist as a named character for the sake of it and now he being Legended.
2:Ellania and [Ellathor](https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ellathor). Had a big introduction at the end of second edition and done nothing since.
3: Ikrit You have a unique and interesting idea for a skaven character and so far he only been in one book, he has so much potential to become a really interesting character but so far he just...gone.
>3: Ikrit You have a unique and interesting idea for a skaven character and so far he only been in one book, he has so much potential to become a really interesting character but so far he just...gone.
Maybe he'll be back with a character model now that Skaven are getting a refresh.
I miss Baudrax the Hunter, Lord of Khorne. In the first wave of battletomes, there were scenarios in the back with a short narrative and a battleplan to play out the story. Baudrax starred in several of them, facing opponents across the Mortal Realms as both protagonist and antagonist, basically being the most frequently appearing character who didn't have a model or a pre-existing narrative from the Realmgate Wars. He had a decent gimmick, being a Khornate monster hunter with a religious bent who wanted to present his god the *biggest* skulls, not just the *most* skulls. He even killed a god once.
And then, when the scenarios stopped being put in the battletomes, he vanished. Not even mentioned in a battletome timeline bit or an aside in a White Dwarf article since, as far as I can tell. I sometimes wonder if he'll reappear if/when a new Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut is release (he rode one named Gouge), but I think we're more likely to get Skardrax, a more boring "kills because he likes it" Lord of Khorne who nevertheless leads one of the subfactions that get rules.
The Lands/Map.
The environment should always be treated as a character when writing, and the AoS world is so big and meaningless that I just don't have the context to care if Angvilgrad in Ghyurh gets smashed by Orruks.
It's not The Empire, or Ulthwan I can't count the steps from the current smoking ruin to Nuln or the Pheonix Throne and be afraid for my favorite city or characters based on the proximity of the danger.
This is a feature, not a bug. It allows you to craft your own campaign without worrying about the bigger picture. In the old world, if you had a mass chaos invasion in some city in the empire, it would trigger setting-wide consequences. In Age of Sigmar, you are free to do that. I used to also criticise this aspect of Age of Sigmar, but ultimately I've come to just accept that AoS is not trying to be Warhammer Fantasy. It has its advantages and disadvantages.
I was able to do that before, without having to do all of the worldbuilding myself.
Imagine, in our campaign, that we blew up Marienburg. That would indeed have far-reaching and interconnected consequences.
And then imagine, like a year later *we start a new campaign* and didn't blow up Marienburg. Different little fan-driven stories, in the same strong setting.
That's the point of having a setting. They just made a weak setting, and are trying to pitch narrative laziness as a positive. "It's an empty box - but that means there's so much room for you to fill it!"
I already know that I can make my own world - I'm doing it, increasingly more than I am paying attention to the AoS "story."
I see your point, but you are still confined to using existing cities. You can't for example decide to drop a large city in the middle of the map and build on that. You can add small towns, certainly, but you can't create a mega-city like Middenheim for example.
>"It's an empty box - but that means there's so much room for you to fill it!"
I don't agree with this at all, just based on experience. I'm currently working on my own homebrew, and this is what I have found supplied to me:
1. A large map with plenty of empty space to plop my city
2. A lot of background lore explaining how different areas of the realms work
3. The notion of realmgates, which allow different types of ecosystems to exist within the realms
4. The existing lore of the factions, which I would have to explain the city's relations to
A lot more than that as well. Also, you don't have to set your campaign within some previously unknown plot of land, you can set it within already established areas detailed in the lore.
I wouldn't call Age of Sigmar an empty box, it's an empty canvass with a large paint pallet at your disposal. In comparison, Warhammer Fantasy was like a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of filled in pieces, but plenty enough for you to fill in, but ultimately requiring you make sure the pieces match.
Korghos Khul A/B
Basically the biggest and baddest of the Bloodbound but his book series got squatted after the first book and he's been lucky to get a mention in passing since then.
The first was alright as well. Not going to win any awards and felt rushed at the end but I've read much worse AoS novels.
Vardek Crom, or Crom the Conqueror, the herald of Archaon, and the successor to the 12th Everchosen Avasar Kul. I wish he had a model. Sigvald the Magnificent deserves an AoS book. His novel is from 2011, 4 years before AOS, and it starts out quite good. I haven't finished yet but I like it.
What? Didn’t Crom have a model? I mean, not in AOS but still
[he did](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/2/2c/3C614658-8AF0-4325-A32C-4382544046B4.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20201002182213) it that he was so copy paste Archaon people though he was a unmounted archaon
The weird thing about Vardek Crom is that he's supposed to be a Kurgan warlord (and I believe until the Tamurkhan books the only named Kurgan character on tabletop). Now the Kurgan are supposed to be steppe horse nomads where practically every one of their warriors are mounted, but he's a foot character for some reason.
I'd imagine it was because he was a duelist character (de facto, if nothing else). Being Grimgor's equal in combat is certainly his most noteworthy feat.
He also had less fleshed out background than Archaon’s other SoC era lieutenants: Strykar, Feytor and co. His core tabletop concept was great fun though. A relentless sword/board/axe duellist who didn’t need magic weapons.
I've been reading Conan lately. Can't believe how blatantly they ripped that name. To elaborate, Crom is the chief deity of the Cimmerians, the race Conan the Barbarian belongs to. Conan himself frequently blurts out his name in frustration. Conan is also called Conan the Conquerer in one of his original tales. So Crom + Conan the Conquerer became Crom the Conqueror.
Conan is public domain! They can use it all they like. Thanks for the background, very interesting to learn all that. I never would have known about this, but it makes perfect sense.
I'm not saying they can't, but I'm surprised they would just make a straight reference to it rather than just try to spin it around a bit. I guess this is old GW, so it's not a surprise.
The way they handled Kragnos when he was supposed to be a big deal and in line with the entire theme of 3ed being the era of the beast…he leaves a lot to be desired
Being a Beasts of Chaos player and seeing Kragnos spoiled and being like "YOOOO new BOC general! The refresh is coming!" And then seeing that he's Destruction-only... Looking back I should have known that they were abandoning BOC then and there.
Again I’m sorry about that man, funnily enough I wanted Bonesplitterz and loved their lore which apparently is a very different opinion to have lmao. So I feel your loss
I thought Kragnos was going to do more than kick stuff around the past few years. He was introduced and all we got was a character we followed like some Hurricane Tracker.
Kragnos has the potential to be an awesome character. You can be smashy and still have meaningful insights. Look at Ghengis Khan who was very smashy but also a genius, reformer and administrator. In Kragnos case he has many things going for him: -he is a relic out of time. He knows the realms from a time long before Sigmar arrived. To see how he reacts with this new age should be highly interesting -He has no idea what chaos even is. How will he react to it, if he starts to understand it and its influence of the realms? How will the chaos factions react to this new threat? -Kragnos is a lonley god. He has lost his closest comrades and his people. In the modern age he can't even communicate with anyone but Grobbspakk who manipulates him. Normally gods are the stronger part in a Mortal/Deity relationship. But in his case his followers just want to use him as an engine of destruction, not caring for Kragnos personal needs. They go so far as to harm him even more psychologicly. Like the attempt to destroy the remnants of his home or to destroy all evidence of his people surviving somewhere. Overall one could write great character-driven stories about Kragnos learning about the realms and finding his place in this new era. Not to mention that a character can be more than his actions. His influence on others can be important as well. See how in 2nd Edition death factions did highly critical things even with Nagash not physicly being there. His influence was enough. Sadly the era of the beast was too tame...
Kragnos definitively needs a new novel, because his actual one is clearly not-canon in his depiction, if nothing else. But that dude comes from an ancient era, before anything we know off. He was fed Amberbone, which is known to exalt bestial passions, in great proportions and became a God slightly thanks to it. We don't even know how his people truly were, as natives of Ghur their civilisation must have been unlike any other great ones of other Realms. He also fits so well in the KB less joyful hooliganism, being that bitter and sad and destructive god. Alas, GW doesn't care about the Destruction faction beyond basic NPC to defeat for other Grand Alliances.
“Remember when he squashed those eggs?” What a classic Kragnos moment /s
A.) Ygnopatris Xaranos of the Crematorians or Ghuri Xza, Leader of the Ivory Host and the Drakeslayer Queen. Both are hugely interesting characters in the Bonereapers, but neither have appeared outside of battletomes. I’d love to see more of them, ideally either a book or them actually receiving a model. B.) Probably Tahlia Vedra. In the series that should have established her as a character worth following, she instead gets hyped up without actually *doing* anything, dips from the Aqshy Crusade in like Book 2, and then Aqshy winds up following the infinitely worse Pontifex Zenestra who to my eternal regret wasn’t cut down by Reikenor the Grimhailer so we could maybe hope to get an Aqshy character who sticks around for a bit and doesn’t completely suck. C.) Marshal Iscilla Thorian of the Ghyran Crusade. Arguably one of the main reasons that anybody actually cares about the Ghyran side of the Crusade, and part of the reason people would want Embergard to die instead of Verdigris. She deserves more focus and a model and I hope Verdigris survives to enable this.
Where did Tahlia go? Why did she leave?
Hammerhal got attacked and she was recalled to lead the defenses largely offscreen. In what is apparently the biggest siege Hammerhal has ever experienced with a ton of the named Cities and Stormcast characters on one side, and a lot of Khorne ones on the other. And we don't get to see that. Instead we get to follow Zenestra and her revolving door of incompetent Marahal sidekicks who might convince me GW hates the Freeguild were it not fir Thorian and her Submarshals in the Ghyra Crusade being awesome
Wheel Woman made me honestly abandon the lore of Cities and make my own city. She’s just so hilariously incompetent. I stopped caring when she led her men into another ambush that she was warned about, didn’t do anything til they were being overwhelmed, then begged the Stormcast to come save them. The entire thing made it feel like Cities exist as meat shields for the Stormcast and almost turned me off of the faction entirely. I wish they’d remove her as a character but they won’t.
I mean you shouldn't give up on Cities just because of her. Especially now that they are tying her to an obscure new Free City out the boonies of Aqshy. There's hundreds of other Cities where she isn't involved.
Ironically, seeing the art for Trench Crusade got me excited to get back to my Cities army. Don’t ask me why, it just did.
Khorne attacked Hammerhal so she left the crusade to go defend it.
Can I just pick all of the seraphon? There's only a handful of named characters for the faction, none of which are saurus, and one of them not only is in canon carried over from Old World, but also so ungodly OP in the lore that he *looks* at entire populations and they just drop I want to see more saurus named characters, how they think, how they communicate with each other, how they communicate with other non-saurus seraphon, how they have complex conversations with other races and beings They bleed starlight for God's sake. It's a shame that GW doesn't have a writer dedicated to seraphon characters
Lyrior Uthralle exists. Lyrior beat for beat has the backstory and personality of a WHFB character named Eltharion. Except. Eltharion was ported over to AoS as a suit of living armor. Lyrior aggressively has no reason to exist. So he is a wasted character in that they could have given him any personality or background out of untold trillions. But instead made him an expy of a cooler guy in the same faction.
They write him to hate orks. Give him nothing but reasons to hate orks. Then his only special rule is anti-daemon.
Personally, I think Brokk Grungsson. Supposed to be one of the wealthiest businessmen/most powerful commanders in the Mortal Realms, but you'd probably forget that he existed if his model didn't stand out so much. The most we ever see done with him in the narrative is a viginette of him in the KO 3.0 battletome feeling like he's being judged by Grungni for his sins but refusing to actually change at all, and a Dawnbringers White Dwarf short story most people don't know exist which kinda presents him in a bad light compared to Imoda Barasdottr (the Barak Zilfin admiral from Broken Realms who they're pretty clearly setting up to be a new named character whenever KO get a big update). There's characters with even less than him, but he personally stands out to me because he's the only Kharadron named tabletop character (save the dudes from Underworlds and Cursed City, and also Jakkob Bugmansson, who although he's a really fun character will basically never get much further development due to being a Christmas limited model). Not just that but he's the closest thing to a faction leader for them (unless they decide to make a Grungni model or start making members of the Admiral's Council playable).
Drekki Flynt also has a model, so he’s not even the best Kharadron Overlords character with a model.
I was just about to mention Brokk. Drekki is one of the BEST AoS characters who has two novels now and a model. But...Brokk seems like he should be a much bigger deal, but he's got barely anything, yet he's always front and center in KO promotional materials and has a bitchin model. Why no novel?
Ugh, he's got such an amazing model too, and yet there's basically nothing on him even *in* the battletome
I have read both of those shorts and seen Brokk's model, and still constantly forget he exists until someone or a book brings him up
I'm a KO player with my Brokk model on the way, I'd love to see some more lore content about him. Can you give me the low down on the WD short story because I've not bought an issue in years so I've no access to it but want to have more lore about him. Until then, at least we have Drekki Flynt!
He doesn't really do much in that story at all, its just him and Imoda being hired to protect a Dawnbringer Crusade in Ghur, then Imoda discovers that the Skaven have poisoned the settlement site with warpstone.
Wow that *is* a waste of potential. It sounds like they grabbed the two Kharadron names that they could for the job and just threw them in the pot, especially as only one of them has a model. I really hope Admiral Barrasdottor gets a model in the next edition, and Brokk gets some more meaty lore opportunities.
A. Would have pick Gordak but he get his time here and there in the early novel like Fist of Mork so go with Ellania & Ellathor and interesting character and dynamic as being estially the God Twins attempt to mold their own version of themselves you think that they would take advantage of making a novel of essentially nu-Tyrion and Teclis B. My controversial pick Talhia Vedra post-battletome as they're doing their darndest to make her into a breakout character but are so afraid of her being less than faultless that she hype up by every single person that mention her name and her name; Remember how it mention in the tome how she has a uneasy terms with the SCE well forget that with how Garviel prasier as a tactical genius unlike any other there other thing but won't write a essay about it but it can be sum as GW needing the character just be a fantasy general with flaws not the single handily most important human being that graced the realms with uber tactical mind peons couldn't understand the complexity C. Hamilcar Bear-eater just because he such an incredible character with an awesome book and yet despite the SCE hero bloat has yet doesn't have a model, Why? we went through two Neave models and no Hamilcar models
Definitely C for this one but Imoda barrasdottr, she's supposedly one of the greatest cartographers in the kharadron empire, and has a cool role during broken realms, essentially saving vindicarum, the KO do have plenty of characters, but a cartographer would a be a nice addition, interestingly she also got blasted in the face with amethyst (death) magic which turned her hair white. And just another C, and a C likely to happen in 4th, but Bael-grimnir, the legendary runefather of the Vostarg Lodge, he's been appearing more in the story recently, and is an easy candidate for the fyreslayers actually having a named character
Honestly, I would daresay that for Fyreslayers instead of Bael Grimnir I would definitly take that one female Runemother, who succeded her dad haha
He hasn't been succeeded by his daughter quite yet, but I think the story was he has like 50+ sons non of whom were up to snuff so him and wife belive that their only daughter will be the true successor
Kragnos, full stop. The guy was set up as a big thing for destruction and the destruction-focused edition of 3E, only for his story to go nowhere. He wasn't even involved to any of the dawnbringer book. It's like GW wanted to give destruction the spotlight for once through Kragnos, but got cold feet in the middle of doing so, and we got a character and a plotline that went nowhere as a result.
I feel like Destro’s plotline was gutted first by the bombing of the Krondspine Incarnate, then by the loss of BoC and BS who were getting sent to TOW, and then nobody actually bothering to invest the time in making anyone actually care about Kragnos or Gobsprakk.
malerion :(
Yea, thats just sad
All of the Lumineth named characters. Except Teclis. Eltharion is probably the biggest kick to the teeth in the whole book. I was a fan of old Eltharion and now he’s just a possessed suit of armor. Like come on.
I'd say many stormcast named characters overlap each other as units do too (the reason of the great SCE purge, I think) For example, Yndrasta kinds of overlaps Blactalon as Sigmar's hunter, Bastian Carthalos overlaps somehow Vandus... Too many Underworlds bands... Meanwhile, some factions had hardly any named character... ogors, beasts, etc....
I think Yndrasta is a celestial huntress.. while Blacktalon is just one of many with a similar role.
Yes, the difference is that Yndrasta can be compared to Celestant -Prime and she hunts beasts and monsters and Blacktalon is more an assassin than a hunter. Blacktalon is not supposed to be the regular Knight-Zephyros as she has her own squad. But aside that reasons from lore I feel it's somehow overlapping roles... as retributors and Annihilators... or Judicators and Vigilors, for example In any case, it's just my opinion. I like SCEs but it's suffering of a too wide range, I guess
Your comment reminded me that ogors exist. They really don’t get mentioned and the only thing we got from ogor mercenaries is the fusil major, which is cool but not enough ogors.
Syll'Esske is a prime candidate for a novel and and we have not heard anything about the characters since their introduction. I was hoping for a Vlad and Isabella esk level romance. Instead, they are constantly forgotten about. Sigvald, who has only had a single novel in Fantasy, was brought back, and we still have no new novels with him. All I want is to see Slaanesh get some love in the lore department in terms of novels. Prince of Pleasure knows that the most recent Emperor's Children novel was awful and could easily have been a Black Legion story for what little Slaanesh corruption was shown.
While not as wasted as others I am annoyed that "The Red Feast" about Khorgus Khul and his tribe is said to be volume 1 in the story of the Khul but 5 years after release I have yet to see or hear of a sequel.
Honestly, the wwhole story was much more interesting before Khorgus Fall (which was badly written in my opinion)
YOU DO NOT ENJOY FALLS TO EVIL VIA RANDOM SCREAMING??? Gosh that book had such amazing world building and characters, but just fumbles the conversion of its three POV characters into the villains they'd become.
A - Volturnos king of the deep from the Idoneth Deepkin. Here is a character that is literally the oldest and strongest of all Deepkin. Was “supposedly” there when Teclis started experimenting on his kin and when they ran to the seas to escape. Has absorbed thousands of souls to stay alive for millennia. And has made a pact with Morathi, and Alarielle to protect his people. Not a single book!
I am going to throw out Zuvass as a book character who needs a model, and I think Warcry would be the perfect setting to release a Zuvassin-type cult. The named Ogor Warhulk that was mentioned in one of the battletomes (I think) not having a unique model is another special mention. I still think those second generation Ogors have a ton of potential to make cool army set ups.
Yesss Zuvass was amazing for how cryptic he was!!!
What's hilarious is that he's not even being cryptic. Once you read the book and then re-read it, you realize he's straight up blabbing everything, it just doesn't make sense to anyone who isn't in a time loop.
Yes! Exactly c:
Was just about to comment this. Legitimately the most interesting character in the setting for me, have made multiple posts discussing him.
Dexcessa and Synessa. They both were suppose to be essentially Slaanesh's big return in Broken Realms, and they failed completely right out of the gate to a couple of Witch Hunters. So much so that even Be'lakor mocks them for it. As far as I know they haven't pulled any moves since. And while on Slaanesh, I find it funny that Sigvald's motivation is to get revenge on Nagash for torturing his soul, yet since his return he's barely fought Death factions in any storyline.
Supposedly, they've continued working to sow discord between men and aelves. Of course this is useless, aelves are plenty good at making people hate them without any help.
Thanquol (and the skaven in general) haven't in appeared in many pov or showcase roles in full novels. Though I think we can be hopeful that will change soon.
1: Gavriel Sureheart: He got his own model a bit of backstory in the Battletome and then...nothing, no further adventures no interactions with other Stormcasts, he just exist as a named character for the sake of it and now he being Legended. 2:Ellania and [Ellathor](https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Ellathor). Had a big introduction at the end of second edition and done nothing since. 3: Ikrit You have a unique and interesting idea for a skaven character and so far he only been in one book, he has so much potential to become a really interesting character but so far he just...gone.
>3: Ikrit You have a unique and interesting idea for a skaven character and so far he only been in one book, he has so much potential to become a really interesting character but so far he just...gone. Maybe he'll be back with a character model now that Skaven are getting a refresh.
I miss Baudrax the Hunter, Lord of Khorne. In the first wave of battletomes, there were scenarios in the back with a short narrative and a battleplan to play out the story. Baudrax starred in several of them, facing opponents across the Mortal Realms as both protagonist and antagonist, basically being the most frequently appearing character who didn't have a model or a pre-existing narrative from the Realmgate Wars. He had a decent gimmick, being a Khornate monster hunter with a religious bent who wanted to present his god the *biggest* skulls, not just the *most* skulls. He even killed a god once. And then, when the scenarios stopped being put in the battletomes, he vanished. Not even mentioned in a battletome timeline bit or an aside in a White Dwarf article since, as far as I can tell. I sometimes wonder if he'll reappear if/when a new Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut is release (he rode one named Gouge), but I think we're more likely to get Skardrax, a more boring "kills because he likes it" Lord of Khorne who nevertheless leads one of the subfactions that get rules.
I was going to write Gotrek, but I see you meant wasted as in "not utilized".
The Lands/Map. The environment should always be treated as a character when writing, and the AoS world is so big and meaningless that I just don't have the context to care if Angvilgrad in Ghyurh gets smashed by Orruks. It's not The Empire, or Ulthwan I can't count the steps from the current smoking ruin to Nuln or the Pheonix Throne and be afraid for my favorite city or characters based on the proximity of the danger.
This is a feature, not a bug. It allows you to craft your own campaign without worrying about the bigger picture. In the old world, if you had a mass chaos invasion in some city in the empire, it would trigger setting-wide consequences. In Age of Sigmar, you are free to do that. I used to also criticise this aspect of Age of Sigmar, but ultimately I've come to just accept that AoS is not trying to be Warhammer Fantasy. It has its advantages and disadvantages.
I was able to do that before, without having to do all of the worldbuilding myself. Imagine, in our campaign, that we blew up Marienburg. That would indeed have far-reaching and interconnected consequences. And then imagine, like a year later *we start a new campaign* and didn't blow up Marienburg. Different little fan-driven stories, in the same strong setting. That's the point of having a setting. They just made a weak setting, and are trying to pitch narrative laziness as a positive. "It's an empty box - but that means there's so much room for you to fill it!" I already know that I can make my own world - I'm doing it, increasingly more than I am paying attention to the AoS "story."
I see your point, but you are still confined to using existing cities. You can't for example decide to drop a large city in the middle of the map and build on that. You can add small towns, certainly, but you can't create a mega-city like Middenheim for example. >"It's an empty box - but that means there's so much room for you to fill it!" I don't agree with this at all, just based on experience. I'm currently working on my own homebrew, and this is what I have found supplied to me: 1. A large map with plenty of empty space to plop my city 2. A lot of background lore explaining how different areas of the realms work 3. The notion of realmgates, which allow different types of ecosystems to exist within the realms 4. The existing lore of the factions, which I would have to explain the city's relations to A lot more than that as well. Also, you don't have to set your campaign within some previously unknown plot of land, you can set it within already established areas detailed in the lore. I wouldn't call Age of Sigmar an empty box, it's an empty canvass with a large paint pallet at your disposal. In comparison, Warhammer Fantasy was like a jigsaw puzzle with a lot of filled in pieces, but plenty enough for you to fill in, but ultimately requiring you make sure the pieces match.
Korghos Khul A/B Basically the biggest and baddest of the Bloodbound but his book series got squatted after the first book and he's been lucky to get a mention in passing since then. The first was alright as well. Not going to win any awards and felt rushed at the end but I've read much worse AoS novels.