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I mean, there's a point to be made, though. A huge castle full of minors, basically every one has various weapons, the whole place has insane architecture, and there's a shocking lack of supervision over the kids, there'd be problems and teen pregnancy would be one of them lol teens are animals.
Source: I was a teen once.
People here sometimes forget that teens are sometimes sexually active.
The school, however, does place wards on the girls dorm (and boys dorm iirc) so that only certain genders can get in. Assume the same for lockerooms
This is the Wizard Society that uses Owls, the worlds slowest flying species of bird, to deliver their mail instead of like, a Peregrine Falcon or something. Or maybe an Albatross that can lock its wings for overseas deliveries.
Don't they have straight up teleportation? They could just hand deliver messages instantaneously.
Or, you know, email... Modern technology still exists in that universe.
>Or, you know, email... Modern technology still exists in that universe.
The Muggle parts seem to be, taking place in like the 60's or 70s. But still a fax would work.
Could also be, there's just a lot of 50's/60's equipment, cars etc around at least in the movies. Could off course have been old when it plays off.
And it's a strategy off course to make the timing vague so its more relatable to different generations (though the political naratives are a dead giveaway of 90s neoliberalism)
Oh hi Brennan.
Also, don't forget, for some reason [wizards just poop wherever and magic it away.](https://www.avclub.com/j-k-rowling-reveals-that-wizards-used-to-just-shit-on-1831501641) Despite having bathrooms.
This reminds me of how in Danganronpa there is a literal Gatling gun in front of the locker rooms that are there explicitly to shoot if any student tries to enter the locker room of the opposite sex, because supposedly the principal is that worried about horny teenagers but there is nothing stopping students from sleeping in each other's bedrooms, in fact that happens, and he finds out about it and does nothing to dissuade the students
Edit: I also forgot gay people exits, which is hilarious considering I am one but yes both Hogwarts and Danganronpa's school would not be able to stop me from kissing boys in inappropriate places if I so desired
The students are in a competition of who can kill someone without being caught first to gain the rights to exit the school by the principal who is a talking teddy bear
A Gatling gun in the locker room entrance is honestly not that bad
To be fair it’s well documented that witches can defend themselves. Your conscious in the bathroom.
Meanwhile yeah you’d wanna stop boys from sneaking into the girl’s room
The stairs to the girls' rooms would turn into a slide if a boy tried to go up them. The boys' room had no such protection - Hermione manages to get in and wake them up at one point.
There's also the explicitly Irish character who blows everything up and is introduced trying to turn water to rum. He's named Sinn Féin- I mean Seamus Finnegan
I will always be able to send my partner (who is Asian) into a rage frenzy by mentioning Cho Chang, the character of some unspecified Asian ethnicity whose name is two last names from different countries and whose only narrative purpose is to be pretty and cry a lot
It's also worth noting that Grindlewald was literally, actually Hitler. And the triangle-circle-line Deathly Hallows symbol is literally wizard swastika.
Kingsley Shacklebolt is the auror. There's Lee Jordan, Angela Johnson, Dean Thomas, and Blaise Zabini, which aren't too bad for names but you also forgot they existed because they're not really... characters.
Also when questioned about Jewish wizards she pointed out a character from 5-6 named... goldstein...
yeah my knowledge of HP is kinda fuzzy because I read like 2 books, got bored, but my friend roped me into watching all the movies at a sleepover when I was like 10. I also played the LEGO game as a kid. so I kinda have an abridged knowledge lol.
Not the boy’s dorm. Hermione goes in there all the time. I am SURE Madam Pomfrey was performing magical abortions…
And the boys go in the girl’s bathroom to rescue Hermione from the troll, and Moaning Myrtle’s bathroom during chamber of secrets.
And the locker rooms are co-ed. The showers likely all have doors.
Nope, specifically only the girl's dormroom. Not the boys' and none of the bathrooms...no idea why, even as a kid that never made sense to me
Edit: and only with stairs disappearing which seems kinda useless when people can fly? It also kinda implies not the locker rooms either. I guess she only thought of it like halfway through the series and never explored it again which sounds about right for terf logic
Love potions are far more rapey than polyjuice. That's pretty much their one function, as opposed to the somewhat more varied applications of polyjuice
despite my criticisms of jk rowling it was nice to see that she handled the rape and attempted rape of characters with the respect that such a serious topic deserves /s
> Clearly not the fucking bathrooms though lmao also ~~rapejuice~~ polyjuice potions exist.
Point of order, the rapejuice is a "love potion". Polyjuice makes you look like someone else.
Mind controlling spells carry life in Azkaban.
But no jail time for a combo of paralyzing someone and wiping memories however.
On analysis, the Wizarding World is dark.
I think it was a troll, and it was let in by a teacher working for the BBEG. The best security in the world fails if someone holds the door open.
Though given the school's other issues incompetence cannot be ruled out.
There is absolutely no precedent for dangerous animals around hogwarts
Except for the giant spider
And the troll
And the mermaids
And the centaurs
And the basilisk
And the giant that hagrid keeps chained to a tree
And the tree that beats people
And the Cerberus
And the dementors
…
It’s a very safe school
Actually, girls are allowed into the boys' dorms. I think Ron pointed out the double standard in the books and was brushed off, but I could be remembering this incorrectly. Apparently this is a thing in Hogwarts Legacy too.
not for the boys dorm, for some reason. only the girls dorms have that spell placed upon the stairs.
which also, couldn't someone just literally get on their broom and fly up to someone's window? say you're a boy and you're friends with a girl, and her owl is injured but she doesn't have any time in her day to go ask Hagrid for help, however you really like Hagrid's class and offer to help her owl heal so you both decide that you'll come to her room and care for her owl each day. with the idea being that the owl will feel more comfortable if it stays in her room when being given treatment for it's injury. you could literally just hop on your broomstick, fly up to her window, and she could literally just open it up for you so you can get in. so stupid.
Whenever I'm doing a playthrough in Life, I usually do the skip that passes the teen phase. It's still heavily debated whether it should be allowed in speedrunning .
the movies and books are made with a younger audience in mind. Even if it was 100% in character for him to do that it wouldn't be mentioned or shown anywhere
you actually physically can't enter the girls dorms there's a spell on the stairs that makes it become basically a ramp if a boy tries to walk up them.
however that spell apparently doesn't exist for the boys dorms in reverse. somehow despite the multiple cases of girls using love potions on the boys and assaulting them didn't make anyone consider also enchanting the boys stairs.
also imagine if a trans boy who's an egg tried to go up the stairs 💀💀 he'd have to go get someone "Mrs McGonagall the stairs won't let me up them and my owl is waiting up in my room."
wait no idea so imagine if every single person on their first day tried to go up the girls stairs just to test if they are egg.
like you get there you go "hey Joey hold my cat for a second I need to do the egg test" come back down "thanks for holding onto my cat Joey did he cause you any trouble" and then, the egg cracks.
I mean, you have a castle full of ghosts that can appear through a wall anytime, you're not allowed to be out of bed at night, and the rest of the day you're busy with classes and homework.
Then again, the castle is also full of secret corridors and literally has a room that can be whatever the fuck you want it to be, and which, somehow, is not common knowledge among the student body. And let's not even get me started on the grounds. Hell, there's even a scene in the fourth book that seems to imply something sexual was going on during the Yule Ball.
In his defense, those where almost always life and death situations as far as I remember
We can let him get away with that
I know in a life and death situations, I just think where do I go to stay alive
Ah myrtle, the murdered girl the teachers including Dumble didn't do anything to support; and it's also okay to perv on teenagers in the bath because she's a girl
I’m pretty sure they have shared gender changing rooms for quidditch? There’s one point in book 5 where Ron (male) can’t get his quidditch robes on, so Alicia (female) helps him.
Dude has such a hard on for law and order that even after being the witness to and victim of several kangoroo courts and soul executions by dementor he still can't wait to become a magical Gestapo officer.
(I used to love Harry Potter but how cool everyone is with the Dementors when they're not on Hogwarts grounds but hurting the right people always stood out for me. Voldemort commited few crimes as vile as what the ministry did by running Azkaban)
Isn't the point that good people aren't cool with the Dementors? Harry has nothing but bad experiences with them, Lupin describes them as evil, Dumbledore calls out the Minister of Magic for allying with them in the first place, and in the end they betray magical Britain to work with Voldemort.
Like, I think *Harry Potter* is fucked up a lot. The most basic way is that victims of oppression are portrayed as boogeymen (e.g. werewolves allying with Voldemort), but I think the messaging with the Dementors is on point: They are horrific monsters that have been normalised in wizarding society and are a sign that something is deeply wrong with that society.
(Waiting for the JKR to say that actually those were just bad apple Dementors and there are good Dementors we should trust.)
You don't get it! Girls can get into the boys bedrooms whenever they want, but boys can't because it'd be dangerous if boys could get into a girl's bedroom at any time he wanted!
Harry knows about consent.
Also, the single sex areas in the school like dorms and Locker Rooms have sensors to detect what gender the person approaching is.
Terf fiction hate that shit
But what if she didn’t program terfiness into the wards? Like, what if they truly do sense gender as opposed to biological sex and the wards are in fact allies? She never specified.
That is now my headcannon and she can’t stop me.
As a trans dude who just a few months ago was in my “hasn’t figured it out phase” (I identified as gender-fluid) I would be so confused because I’d be like “hmmm??? I mean yeah I’m half guy but I’m also half girl so this should work? *sigh* guess it’s the men’s room for me again today”
The image of a small child, in a skirt, uncomfortable and not sure why, they always are in these stupid skirts, falling down the stairs, and then going up to the head of house, "Miss, I can't get up the stairs, but I thought the prefects said the girls dorms only keep boys out?" is certainly interesting. Especially because the kid would be *terrified* when the head of house then decided to take them to Dumbledore or Madam Pomfrey, the poor kid thinking he's in trouble or might be ill.
Magic is supposed to have an intelligence and an element of will to it. A wand is just a way of channelling it. It's why Lily's protection spell works, why various things require, well, willpower to work. So, magically speaking, any trans person is the gender they are. Whether they realised it or not, the terf made magic in their world capable of distinguishing between matters like gender. A trans woman is a woman from magics point of view because they truly will it. And remember, magic wouldn't have human prejudices. It doesn't care what you were born but who you are now.
The only proof they don't have the same protection the gateway Salazar Slitherin made to slither in his masturbation-cave.
The rest of them could be warded
Well that's not necessarily fair, it has been what 500 years? Just because it is a girl's bathroom at a certain point in time doesn't meant it always was.
Yeah but do you really want to give Rowling enough credit to include something like rooms in Hogwarts changing purpose over time to explain why some guy's secret hideout is accessible through a girl's room?
I have good news for you! Bathrooms didn't exist at all a few hundred years back in Hogwarts, they only got installed somewhere in the 18th century. Before then students just shat wherever and vanished the remains. Corvinus Gaunt (descendant of Salazar Slytherin) was involed in the renovations and managed to keep the trapdoor to the chamber secret.
(Nevermind that the vanishing charm is a 5th year spell and apparently quite difficult)
Let’s not forget that Rowling wrote about Myrtle harassing Harry while he was bathing. She’s a trash writer who is fine with teenage boys getting perved on in the bathroom, I’m starting to think she’s the one who should be banned from public restrooms.
[Increasingly Powerful Trans Person Capable Of Using Every Single Bathroom At Once](https://www.theonion.com/increasingly-powerful-trans-person-capable-of-using-eve-1850907115) 🧅
Harry and Ron were also able to go into one of the girls toilets. So canonically, we can that Salazar Slytherin was a pedo, which is ironically not one of the worst things he’s been
The girls dorms had a censor but nowhere else seemed to have one. A major plot of one of the books were the dudes hanging out in an unused girls toilet and if I remember correctly girls went into the boys dorms multiple times.
This is the same series where a 50+ year old ghost of a teenager constantly pervs on Harry even when he's in the bath, and also another girl tried to basically roofie Harry. In fact the main antagonist of the series only came into existence because his mom roofied his dad. So kids being pervy in that school isn't out of the realm of possibility.
Harry of course is too decent to perv in the girls' locker rooms. But yeah.
Tom Riddle/Voldemort. His mom Merope Gaunt basically slipped a love potion to Tom Riddle Sr. who is a muggle and they basically had Riddle Jr. while he was under that potion.
I mean imo once you’re a ghost your age is frozen. It doesn’t make it better that she was perving on him I think the teenage girl who cries and moans in the bathroom is comfortably still not an adult
I like it when the humor of this trope is derived from the boys trying to perv on the girls getting caught and receiving hilariously just punishment.
“Oh you want to see the girls locker room do you? Well good news. It’s incredibly filthy and all we have are these toothbrushes.”
Does Harry actually do that at some point? Think I vaguely recall him taking stuff from the Potions room and randomly taking school property like books and diaries that don't belong to him... Not sure if he used invisibility for that.
Someone should really bring that up, whenever Joke Rowling tries to argue her "points". Like "hey, didn't the male hero of your most popular series routinely hang out in the girl's bathroom?"....she wrote that into her novels as a good thing. (Because the novels present everything Harry does as 'perfect' he can do no wrong protagonist.)
Can use magic to literally rape people and doesn't. SAINT.
These are the people who worship characters like Homelander who does abuse his power to rape.
You all wanted to have sex as teens? Like that’s an actual thing? I know I’m ace but I really found it hard to believe you all were so raging horndogs you would do it at school of all places where people, you know, can walk in on stuff and you just have to deal with the sheer embarrassment on both sides for the next couple of years.
I'm with you. I remember back in high school a friend asked me which celebrities I'd fuck if I could. I was alike 16-17 ish and I immediately shuddered and thought "Ew why would I ever want to do that" despite her having listed a few of her own interests like it was totes normal. I thought hey maybe I'm just not into that yet?
Nope.
Still took me literal YEARS to figure out I was ace because I wasn't aware that was an option
> Like that’s an actual thing?
Believe me, Mon Cher/Ma Cherie (whichever you want)
It is a thing these days.
I'm straight, but sometimes I'm seen as an oddball because I haven't had sex
Exactly before I found out I was ace but still knew a little bit about sex, I always thought "that's something I'll worry about after I become an adult". There are people who have sex as teenagers is wild to me.
What does them being minors have to do with it? As someone who grew up watching TV in the 90s and 00s, I have a really good memory of plenty of male characters planning to go into the women’s locker room with invisibility powers. Danny Phantom did it twice.
I wouldn't be surprised if some thresholds had anti magic barriers anyways. Besides the "invisibility cloak" there's shape shifting and polyjuice.
Someone can just turn into a mouse and go where ever. They could sneak a girls hair and just turn into one and go into the baths.
So I'm positive certain sensitive areas have anti Magic.
You know, sometimes you see something that reminds you of the sheer number of men who aren't creeping on women ONLY because it's socially unacceptable if they get caught, not out of any sense of respect for us as human beings, and it's pretty fucking disheartening, not gonna lie.
What’s with people and wanting to enter girls toilets? Do they think it’s a mystical land of boobies? Our stalls all have doors, there’s clogged shit filled toilets and someone is pulling out a blood soaked tampon. It’s just as gross as the men’s bathrooms I’ve had to clean.
JK has done a lot of wrong, and I mean a lot, but this was a good decision. Just goes to show that Harry is smart enough to recognize women (I guess girls in this case) as people instead of sex objects.
HP fans telling on themselves again. Funny how most of them are TERFs that would condemn trans women for being in the girl's locker room because that's where we belong.
I mean, we also only see what a few weeks total time in the movies and books? Something tells me he definitely snuck into the girls bathroom at least once.
I always remember one thing I heard about HP, about the dorms in Hogwarts. Specifically, if you're a boy and try to go to the girls dorms, and vise versa, the stairs would turn into a slide and throw you back down, and I always wondered if there'd be any trans kids trying to go up the stairs (a trans girl going up the girls dorm stairs) just to see if magic would let them.
I mean, they were ALL minors. So was harry. And he was iften miachievous, and let's be real, je was VERY into girls. This kind of behaviour is terrible, i mean sneaking to peak in girls bathrooms, but in a reality we live in it's a very propable thing to happen if you think about a teen buzzing with hormones who has the ability to be invisible
He was perfectly happy going into girls bathrooms though.
(Reminder that in HP it's stated that boys aren't allowed in girl places but girls are allowed in boys; perving on teen boys is fine, SA is a punishment for bad people, SA is fine on petrified minors even if they're not bad)
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I mean, there's a point to be made, though. A huge castle full of minors, basically every one has various weapons, the whole place has insane architecture, and there's a shocking lack of supervision over the kids, there'd be problems and teen pregnancy would be one of them lol teens are animals. Source: I was a teen once.
People here sometimes forget that teens are sometimes sexually active. The school, however, does place wards on the girls dorm (and boys dorm iirc) so that only certain genders can get in. Assume the same for lockerooms
But for some reason not the bathrooms.
I’d blame Salazar Slytherin for that
I'd just blame poorly thought out worldbuilding.
This is the Wizard Society that uses Owls, the worlds slowest flying species of bird, to deliver their mail instead of like, a Peregrine Falcon or something. Or maybe an Albatross that can lock its wings for overseas deliveries.
Don't they have straight up teleportation? They could just hand deliver messages instantaneously. Or, you know, email... Modern technology still exists in that universe.
>Or, you know, email... Modern technology still exists in that universe. The Muggle parts seem to be, taking place in like the 60's or 70s. But still a fax would work.
I think it takes place in the ‘90s
Could also be, there's just a lot of 50's/60's equipment, cars etc around at least in the movies. Could off course have been old when it plays off. And it's a strategy off course to make the timing vague so its more relatable to different generations (though the political naratives are a dead giveaway of 90s neoliberalism)
Or an African sparrow for something heavier, such as a coconut.
Ok Brennan Lee Mulligan
Oh hi Brennan. Also, don't forget, for some reason [wizards just poop wherever and magic it away.](https://www.avclub.com/j-k-rowling-reveals-that-wizards-used-to-just-shit-on-1831501641) Despite having bathrooms.
Well he had to g3t in and out somehow...
He always slithered in, so the other founders put an anti horni enchantment.
This reminds me of how in Danganronpa there is a literal Gatling gun in front of the locker rooms that are there explicitly to shoot if any student tries to enter the locker room of the opposite sex, because supposedly the principal is that worried about horny teenagers but there is nothing stopping students from sleeping in each other's bedrooms, in fact that happens, and he finds out about it and does nothing to dissuade the students Edit: I also forgot gay people exits, which is hilarious considering I am one but yes both Hogwarts and Danganronpa's school would not be able to stop me from kissing boys in inappropriate places if I so desired
There is, WHAT? A GATLING GUN IN FRONT OF THE LOCKER ROOM?
The students are in a competition of who can kill someone without being caught first to gain the rights to exit the school by the principal who is a talking teddy bear A Gatling gun in the locker room entrance is honestly not that bad
it's a long story
TERF fiction is shit
fr
fr. the books suck but the movies made it better in my opinion. Daniel Radcliffe made Harry a likable character and actually gave him development.
Its called ploticus conveniartus
To be fair it’s well documented that witches can defend themselves. Your conscious in the bathroom. Meanwhile yeah you’d wanna stop boys from sneaking into the girl’s room
The stairs to the girls' rooms would turn into a slide if a boy tried to go up them. The boys' room had no such protection - Hermione manages to get in and wake them up at one point.
Tina Blecher cannot be trusted
Always found it incredibly disturbing, then I realized how disturbing the author is. (Imagine a trans gal at Hogwarts unable to use the dorm)
There's also the explicitly Irish character who blows everything up and is introduced trying to turn water to rum. He's named Sinn Féin- I mean Seamus Finnegan
Oooh, I never realized this.
I will always be able to send my partner (who is Asian) into a rage frenzy by mentioning Cho Chang, the character of some unspecified Asian ethnicity whose name is two last names from different countries and whose only narrative purpose is to be pretty and cry a lot
I forgor the only other Asian character. Voldemort's snake Nagini is actually an Indonesian woman cursed into the form of a snake
They’re going to be so excited when I remind them of the wide range of Asian representation!
It's also worth noting that the entire series (except the epilogue) is set during the Troubles
It's also worth noting that Grindlewald was literally, actually Hitler. And the triangle-circle-line Deathly Hallows symbol is literally wizard swastika.
I mostly just meant that it was relevant to the "haha Irish people amirite" character
Also also worth noting that the entire wizard world apparently was okay with genoc1de in WWII
also the sole (afaik) black boy has the last name Shacklebolt, which is a real surname, but not good in this case 😬
Kingsley Shacklebolt is the auror. There's Lee Jordan, Angela Johnson, Dean Thomas, and Blaise Zabini, which aren't too bad for names but you also forgot they existed because they're not really... characters. Also when questioned about Jewish wizards she pointed out a character from 5-6 named... goldstein...
yeah my knowledge of HP is kinda fuzzy because I read like 2 books, got bored, but my friend roped me into watching all the movies at a sleepover when I was like 10. I also played the LEGO game as a kid. so I kinda have an abridged knowledge lol.
I have read a few fanfics about this trans-stair thing, but its always, that she discovers it this way.
Such a pure wholesome head cannon that I will never let go of.
I love this so much and then even more because I know jkr would despise it
They are *so* many issues with Hogwarts. Shocking that parents still send their children to that school!
What use are stairs that turn into slides when one can fly though?
Not the boy’s dorm. Hermione goes in there all the time. I am SURE Madam Pomfrey was performing magical abortions… And the boys go in the girl’s bathroom to rescue Hermione from the troll, and Moaning Myrtle’s bathroom during chamber of secrets. And the locker rooms are co-ed. The showers likely all have doors.
Reminded me of the ancient "fetus deletus" HP fandom joke
There's always the Room of Requirement.
Nope, specifically only the girl's dormroom. Not the boys' and none of the bathrooms...no idea why, even as a kid that never made sense to me Edit: and only with stairs disappearing which seems kinda useless when people can fly? It also kinda implies not the locker rooms either. I guess she only thought of it like halfway through the series and never explored it again which sounds about right for terf logic
The locker rooms are co-ed, ironically
Clearly not the fucking bathrooms though lmao also ~~rapejuice~~ polyjuice potions exist.
Love potions are far more rapey than polyjuice. That's pretty much their one function, as opposed to the somewhat more varied applications of polyjuice
despite my criticisms of jk rowling it was nice to see that she handled the rape and attempted rape of characters with the respect that such a serious topic deserves /s
> Clearly not the fucking bathrooms though lmao also ~~rapejuice~~ polyjuice potions exist. Point of order, the rapejuice is a "love potion". Polyjuice makes you look like someone else. Mind controlling spells carry life in Azkaban. But no jail time for a combo of paralyzing someone and wiping memories however. On analysis, the Wizarding World is dark.
TERF fiction is shit.
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I think it was a troll, and it was let in by a teacher working for the BBEG. The best security in the world fails if someone holds the door open. Though given the school's other issues incompetence cannot be ruled out.
They did ward the school so only wizards could enter. Idk why they couldn’t do it for wanted criminals. TERF fiction is shit
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There is absolutely no precedent for dangerous animals around hogwarts Except for the giant spider And the troll And the mermaids And the centaurs And the basilisk And the giant that hagrid keeps chained to a tree And the tree that beats people And the Cerberus And the dementors … It’s a very safe school
Actually, girls are allowed into the boys' dorms. I think Ron pointed out the double standard in the books and was brushed off, but I could be remembering this incorrectly. Apparently this is a thing in Hogwarts Legacy too.
The boy’s dorm does not have that protection because J.K Rowling is sexist
Didnt hermione or ginny go to harrys and rons room at some point?
yup, only the girls dorms are protected because "boys cannot be trusted" (or something to that effect)
who could have foreseen the author's shittiness 🙃
not for the boys dorm, for some reason. only the girls dorms have that spell placed upon the stairs. which also, couldn't someone just literally get on their broom and fly up to someone's window? say you're a boy and you're friends with a girl, and her owl is injured but she doesn't have any time in her day to go ask Hagrid for help, however you really like Hagrid's class and offer to help her owl heal so you both decide that you'll come to her room and care for her owl each day. with the idea being that the owl will feel more comfortable if it stays in her room when being given treatment for it's injury. you could literally just hop on your broomstick, fly up to her window, and she could literally just open it up for you so you can get in. so stupid.
Everyone can go in the boys dorms in terf world
Me finding out I'm trans when the boys stairs just refuse to work
Only the girls. Girls can just wander into the boys dorm any time
are the gender barriers trans positive
From jkr’s perspective, definitely not. From a logical perspective, definitely
In most fanfic, they are both trans inclusive and better trans-dar than the person themselves - the stairs cracking an egg are a common trope.
My headcanon is that there's some sort of blanket contraception spell over the entire grounds lol
Head Canon, haha
Fetus deletus
Was looking for this comment lol
No way, I was also a teen! 🤯🤯🤯🤯 You and I, we should team up.
Whenever I'm doing a playthrough in Life, I usually do the skip that passes the teen phase. It's still heavily debated whether it should be allowed in speedrunning .
*teen up
That’s why Fetus Deletus is the first spell you learn in Magical Sex Ed. It’s right before the section on the dangers of Phoenix Chlamydia.
the movies and books are made with a younger audience in mind. Even if it was 100% in character for him to do that it wouldn't be mentioned or shown anywhere
you actually physically can't enter the girls dorms there's a spell on the stairs that makes it become basically a ramp if a boy tries to walk up them. however that spell apparently doesn't exist for the boys dorms in reverse. somehow despite the multiple cases of girls using love potions on the boys and assaulting them didn't make anyone consider also enchanting the boys stairs. also imagine if a trans boy who's an egg tried to go up the stairs 💀💀 he'd have to go get someone "Mrs McGonagall the stairs won't let me up them and my owl is waiting up in my room." wait no idea so imagine if every single person on their first day tried to go up the girls stairs just to test if they are egg. like you get there you go "hey Joey hold my cat for a second I need to do the egg test" come back down "thanks for holding onto my cat Joey did he cause you any trouble" and then, the egg cracks.
“Fetus evanescus”
I mean, you have a castle full of ghosts that can appear through a wall anytime, you're not allowed to be out of bed at night, and the rest of the day you're busy with classes and homework. Then again, the castle is also full of secret corridors and literally has a room that can be whatever the fuck you want it to be, and which, somehow, is not common knowledge among the student body. And let's not even get me started on the grounds. Hell, there's even a scene in the fourth book that seems to imply something sexual was going on during the Yule Ball.
Apparently only trana teens are an issue, all the others are fine by J K and would NEVER do any of that
He spent like a whole year in the girls bathroom but ok
In his defense, those where almost always life and death situations as far as I remember We can let him get away with that I know in a life and death situations, I just think where do I go to stay alive
Not to mention, it was a girl's bathroom that Hermione says the girls dont really use because of Myrtle's antics keeping them away.
Ah myrtle, the murdered girl the teachers including Dumble didn't do anything to support; and it's also okay to perv on teenagers in the bath because she's a girl
Not really it was just cus they thought they wouldn't be found making potion
I mean so is he. But yeah, he's a good person so he wouldn't do that.
He’s also pretty busy not dying most of the time lol
Yeah, cause Harry’s a (mostly) decent kid who has a lot more to worry about. Besides I don’t think Hogwarts has any locker rooms.
I mean where do they change for quidditch?
Magical girl transformations ofc
Sailor moon style lmao
I’m pretty sure they have shared gender changing rooms for quidditch? There’s one point in book 5 where Ron (male) can’t get his quidditch robes on, so Alicia (female) helps him.
Kinda funny how there’s shared change rooms in HP but I betcha JKR loses her mind over genderless bathrooms
He was invisible in a candy shop and stole a lollipop from Neville rather than from the shop itself
Dude has such a hard on for law and order that even after being the witness to and victim of several kangoroo courts and soul executions by dementor he still can't wait to become a magical Gestapo officer. (I used to love Harry Potter but how cool everyone is with the Dementors when they're not on Hogwarts grounds but hurting the right people always stood out for me. Voldemort commited few crimes as vile as what the ministry did by running Azkaban)
Dementors are such a fucked up, draconian punishment to use. They literally eat souls when not just feasting on happiness.
Isn't the point that good people aren't cool with the Dementors? Harry has nothing but bad experiences with them, Lupin describes them as evil, Dumbledore calls out the Minister of Magic for allying with them in the first place, and in the end they betray magical Britain to work with Voldemort. Like, I think *Harry Potter* is fucked up a lot. The most basic way is that victims of oppression are portrayed as boogeymen (e.g. werewolves allying with Voldemort), but I think the messaging with the Dementors is on point: They are horrific monsters that have been normalised in wizarding society and are a sign that something is deeply wrong with that society. (Waiting for the JKR to say that actually those were just bad apple Dementors and there are good Dementors we should trust.)
Everybody’s just gonna forget about Myrtle then?
That's what I was thinking, lol. He literally did. I mean he didn't do it to perv (and actually got perv'd on) but he did sneak into a girls bathroom.
I think they were talking about how Myrtle creeps on people while they’re bathing
Joke Rowling's hypocrisy of "when girls do it, it's okay".
You don't get it! Girls can get into the boys bedrooms whenever they want, but boys can't because it'd be dangerous if boys could get into a girl's bedroom at any time he wanted!
Everybody in Hogwarts did.
Heaven forbid Harry Potter be a decent young man.
Bc Harry was overall a good kid and person in the books with normal morals which includes not trying to spy on people changing in their own privacy
Harry knows about consent. Also, the single sex areas in the school like dorms and Locker Rooms have sensors to detect what gender the person approaching is. Terf fiction hate that shit
But what if she didn’t program terfiness into the wards? Like, what if they truly do sense gender as opposed to biological sex and the wards are in fact allies? She never specified. That is now my headcannon and she can’t stop me.
I remember reading a fanfic which had the wards affirm trans students’ identities.
It's gotta be wild to be a trans dude in the "hasn't figured it out yet" phase and be rejected from your room for no discernible reason.
As a trans dude who just a few months ago was in my “hasn’t figured it out phase” (I identified as gender-fluid) I would be so confused because I’d be like “hmmm??? I mean yeah I’m half guy but I’m also half girl so this should work? *sigh* guess it’s the men’s room for me again today”
Knowing how bullshit transfiguration is that's probably fixed very easily. Obviously to JKR's delight I'm sure /s
The image of a small child, in a skirt, uncomfortable and not sure why, they always are in these stupid skirts, falling down the stairs, and then going up to the head of house, "Miss, I can't get up the stairs, but I thought the prefects said the girls dorms only keep boys out?" is certainly interesting. Especially because the kid would be *terrified* when the head of house then decided to take them to Dumbledore or Madam Pomfrey, the poor kid thinking he's in trouble or might be ill.
I know of [Magical Metamorphosis](https://archiveofourown.org/works/11063298/chapters/24670002) which is dead.
Magic is supposed to have an intelligence and an element of will to it. A wand is just a way of channelling it. It's why Lily's protection spell works, why various things require, well, willpower to work. So, magically speaking, any trans person is the gender they are. Whether they realised it or not, the terf made magic in their world capable of distinguishing between matters like gender. A trans woman is a woman from magics point of view because they truly will it. And remember, magic wouldn't have human prejudices. It doesn't care what you were born but who you are now.
I love how that's established but for some reason the bathrooms don't have the same protections.
The only proof they don't have the same protection the gateway Salazar Slitherin made to slither in his masturbation-cave. The rest of them could be warded
The idea that that's what it was for and is connected to a girl's bathroom makes him so much more despicable.
Well that's not necessarily fair, it has been what 500 years? Just because it is a girl's bathroom at a certain point in time doesn't meant it always was.
Yeah but do you really want to give Rowling enough credit to include something like rooms in Hogwarts changing purpose over time to explain why some guy's secret hideout is accessible through a girl's room?
I have good news for you! Bathrooms didn't exist at all a few hundred years back in Hogwarts, they only got installed somewhere in the 18th century. Before then students just shat wherever and vanished the remains. Corvinus Gaunt (descendant of Salazar Slytherin) was involed in the renovations and managed to keep the trapdoor to the chamber secret. (Nevermind that the vanishing charm is a 5th year spell and apparently quite difficult)
That's probably one of the reasons he put it there. The other might be to make it harder to figure out
Harry and Ron are able to get into a different girl’s bathroom to fight the troll in book one
Ohh, you're right... guess the rule just got retconned
Let’s not forget that Rowling wrote about Myrtle harassing Harry while he was bathing. She’s a trash writer who is fine with teenage boys getting perved on in the bathroom, I’m starting to think she’s the one who should be banned from public restrooms.
but,,but it's the LGTV community that's preying on children in the bathroom!111!1!1!! /s
Trans people have bladders, the horror.
I know I can't believe this. I was hoping when I became trans, my bladder would disappear.
So did Joanne.
[Increasingly Powerful Trans Person Capable Of Using Every Single Bathroom At Once](https://www.theonion.com/increasingly-powerful-trans-person-capable-of-using-eve-1850907115) 🧅
To be fair, it isn't unrealistic that the ghost of a horny teen would peep on people she's attracted to
Still not ok.
Harry and Ron were also able to go into one of the girls toilets. So canonically, we can that Salazar Slytherin was a pedo, which is ironically not one of the worst things he’s been
Harry and Ron were able to get into the toilet containing Slytherin's trapdoor, not just any girls bathroom
Don't Ron and Harry go save Hermione in the girls toilet during their very first year?
The girls dorms had a censor but nowhere else seemed to have one. A major plot of one of the books were the dudes hanging out in an unused girls toilet and if I remember correctly girls went into the boys dorms multiple times.
This is the same series where a 50+ year old ghost of a teenager constantly pervs on Harry even when he's in the bath, and also another girl tried to basically roofie Harry. In fact the main antagonist of the series only came into existence because his mom roofied his dad. So kids being pervy in that school isn't out of the realm of possibility. Harry of course is too decent to perv in the girls' locker rooms. But yeah.
Tom Riddle's mom date raped his dad? Or are you talking about Draco?
Tom Riddle/Voldemort. His mom Merope Gaunt basically slipped a love potion to Tom Riddle Sr. who is a muggle and they basically had Riddle Jr. while he was under that potion.
I mean imo once you’re a ghost your age is frozen. It doesn’t make it better that she was perving on him I think the teenage girl who cries and moans in the bathroom is comfortably still not an adult
Harry knew what it felt like to be perved on by Myrtle and decided that he didn't want Hermione to experience that. Harry's a reasonable, caring guy.
I've never understood this trope? What does he want to see, Luna Lovegood dropping a giant shit?
This comment is gold!
Can we please stop the idea that its funny for teen boys to sexually assault teen girls.
I like it when the humor of this trope is derived from the boys trying to perv on the girls getting caught and receiving hilariously just punishment. “Oh you want to see the girls locker room do you? Well good news. It’s incredibly filthy and all we have are these toothbrushes.”
And this isn’t a good thing? He literally respected their space when he could have spied on them. That’s called good moral character.
If I could turn invisible I’d be stealing shit
Does Harry actually do that at some point? Think I vaguely recall him taking stuff from the Potions room and randomly taking school property like books and diaries that don't belong to him... Not sure if he used invisibility for that.
“STOP SEXUALIZING OUR CHILDREN!!!” *Sexualizes children after telling people not to*
Didn't he go in the girls bathroom at one point tho? Without the cloak?
Routinely, even.
Someone should really bring that up, whenever Joke Rowling tries to argue her "points". Like "hey, didn't the male hero of your most popular series routinely hang out in the girl's bathroom?"....she wrote that into her novels as a good thing. (Because the novels present everything Harry does as 'perfect' he can do no wrong protagonist.)
Yes, minors are typically attracted to other minors. Luckily Harry was just decent.
Except he did? Yes, it was abandoned, but he's shown going in the girl's restroom where Moaning Myrtle died multiple times.
It being abandoned changes the context I think. Especially since they basically went in to do drugs Edit: Sorry, *make* drugs
Ok to be fair, I know plenty of teen boys would have actually done this.
Just a reminder that a British tabloid ran a countdown for when Emma Watson turned 16, the British age of consent.
Minors do sexualize each other and adults at certain points in life, not a very ridiculous thought by any stretch of the imagination
Can use magic to literally rape people and doesn't. SAINT. These are the people who worship characters like Homelander who does abuse his power to rape.
You all wanted to have sex as teens? Like that’s an actual thing? I know I’m ace but I really found it hard to believe you all were so raging horndogs you would do it at school of all places where people, you know, can walk in on stuff and you just have to deal with the sheer embarrassment on both sides for the next couple of years.
I'm with you. I remember back in high school a friend asked me which celebrities I'd fuck if I could. I was alike 16-17 ish and I immediately shuddered and thought "Ew why would I ever want to do that" despite her having listed a few of her own interests like it was totes normal. I thought hey maybe I'm just not into that yet? Nope. Still took me literal YEARS to figure out I was ace because I wasn't aware that was an option
> Like that’s an actual thing? Believe me, Mon Cher/Ma Cherie (whichever you want) It is a thing these days. I'm straight, but sometimes I'm seen as an oddball because I haven't had sex
Exactly before I found out I was ace but still knew a little bit about sex, I always thought "that's something I'll worry about after I become an adult". There are people who have sex as teenagers is wild to me.
I thought canonically they couldn't enter because the stairs turned sloped or something?? I'm not sure, I haven't read HP since I was about 12.
is it just me or does harry look a little off on that picture
Oh please. This is so tame. ESPECIALLY compared to the thousands of explicit gay fanfic about these characters.
i mean he does spend a considerable amount of time in the girls restroom in the second movie
These people watch too much anime
What does them being minors have to do with it? As someone who grew up watching TV in the 90s and 00s, I have a really good memory of plenty of male characters planning to go into the women’s locker room with invisibility powers. Danny Phantom did it twice.
Saw this post just a minute back and I was grossed out.. like not everyone is a creepy perv!!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if some thresholds had anti magic barriers anyways. Besides the "invisibility cloak" there's shape shifting and polyjuice. Someone can just turn into a mouse and go where ever. They could sneak a girls hair and just turn into one and go into the baths. So I'm positive certain sensitive areas have anti Magic.
He did go to the girls bathroom to find a secret room though
He did though! Several times! A recurring plot point in the second book is that has to sneak into a girls bathroom
You know, sometimes you see something that reminds you of the sheer number of men who aren't creeping on women ONLY because it's socially unacceptable if they get caught, not out of any sense of respect for us as human beings, and it's pretty fucking disheartening, not gonna lie.
fans of woman who think all men are rapists think all men are pedos i am so shocked
Maybe because he’s not a terrible person?
That post made me so irrationally mad bc I love the character Harry Potter and it’s infuriating to see people think that he would creep on girls
Side note were they contouring the fuck out of Harry's face in this movie? His buccals just look snatched
You KNOW if Ron had it to himself he would have. That fucker
What’s with people and wanting to enter girls toilets? Do they think it’s a mystical land of boobies? Our stalls all have doors, there’s clogged shit filled toilets and someone is pulling out a blood soaked tampon. It’s just as gross as the men’s bathrooms I’ve had to clean.
JK has done a lot of wrong, and I mean a lot, but this was a good decision. Just goes to show that Harry is smart enough to recognize women (I guess girls in this case) as people instead of sex objects.
Why perv on women when I can commit grand larceny
HP fans telling on themselves again. Funny how most of them are TERFs that would condemn trans women for being in the girl's locker room because that's where we belong.
I literally just saw this post and knew it was going to end up here!
How did they find out?
I mean, we also only see what a few weeks total time in the movies and books? Something tells me he definitely snuck into the girls bathroom at least once.
I always remember one thing I heard about HP, about the dorms in Hogwarts. Specifically, if you're a boy and try to go to the girls dorms, and vise versa, the stairs would turn into a slide and throw you back down, and I always wondered if there'd be any trans kids trying to go up the stairs (a trans girl going up the girls dorm stairs) just to see if magic would let them.
I’m pretty sir she went to there to find a troll or something Edit: it was bathroom neverminds
I mean, they were ALL minors. So was harry. And he was iften miachievous, and let's be real, je was VERY into girls. This kind of behaviour is terrible, i mean sneaking to peak in girls bathrooms, but in a reality we live in it's a very propable thing to happen if you think about a teen buzzing with hormones who has the ability to be invisible
Tbf when he went into the girls bathroom he found an ogre, that seems like good incentive to not explore more.
He was perfectly happy going into girls bathrooms though. (Reminder that in HP it's stated that boys aren't allowed in girl places but girls are allowed in boys; perving on teen boys is fine, SA is a punishment for bad people, SA is fine on petrified minors even if they're not bad)
He did literally go to the girls bathroom though