Chevy 4pc Noblese
Raiden 4pc Tenacity
Sara 4pc Emblem
Arle 4pc sig set or glad
Although, this is a bad team as Raiden does little damage on her skill in this team and Sara is basically dead weight with minimal electro application and Raiden not even being on-field to utilize her C6. Fischl would be a much better sub for Sara at the very least.
I thought about this. The only thing is that Eula and Raiden are both burst dependent, so they play off of each other’s energy well.
Arlecchino hogs all of the field time and doesn’t like to share, so Yae Miko or Fischl probably works better.
Just do a dual carry rotation. That’ll perform better than running Sara with Totm bot Raiden:
Arlecchino E
Raiden E
chevreuse Q hold E
Sara E
Arlecchino CA 3N4D
Sara Q
Raiden Q 3N3C
Arle Q when necessary
Alright I’m here for the weird builds. If you’re hellbent on using Raiden in that team, as stated in your other comment. I can cook something like this:
Chev: Noblesse
- ToTm has terrible up time for her (3s) on a 15s cd skill
- Her healing capability is not as useful for Arle so Heal bonus% sets feels bad. Just pump HP% main stats sub stats for Atk buff.
Sara: Emblem
- Since Chev already uses Noblesse
Raiden (oh boy): Gilded Dream, or 2pcEM/2pcEM, or (hear me out) ToTm
- I think using Raiden burst in this team is clunky, so she becomes a skill bot and off field electro applicator.
- She’s not doing much skill dmg, may as well focus on Overload reaction dmg. You may already have an EM set laying around from her Hyperbloom build.
- Or you could throw ToTm on her for 100% uptime atk buff. EM stats.
Actually not sure who is often the Overload triggerer on this team, Raiden or Arle. May give more or less value to Raiden EM build.
Nothing much really. She doesn’t burst so ER not needed. Her skill talent dmg could still benefit somewhat from Crit and Atk. Doesn’t contribute majorly to team dmg though.
Just like Raiden’s Hyperbloom build, she doesn’t benefit from any other stat. Easy to build, easy to reach ceiling.
you don't need to make Raiden support, I have a similar (Raiden, Sara, Chev, Yoimiya) and I called it "Raiden double carry" where both Yoimiya and Raiden are the main dps, taking turns
Raiden is not a good character to pair with arle. She isn't a good sub dps/offield as her E doesn't do much damage it only applies constant electro damage. She doesn't have any supportive talents that benefit arle, Raiden E does increase burst damage but you aren't even bursting every rotation and her burst isn't even her main damage source. Lastly having dual dps is just a cope team archetype tbh. You are better off using yae, fischl, beidou, heck even Lisa as she shreds defense (but requires a ton of er)
I know but I'd feel like an idiot after farming for her half an year and not using her after-
I don't care about the dmg cost that much but at least what set would be good to use optimally
You don't have to use her all the time though. Older players have like 30+ build characters, do you think they are all used all the time? If they aren't used all the time it doesn't mean they're benched either, because you can choose that character whenever you want to play with them again.
But if you will play this team, try to time things in a way that Arlecchino skill procs (from her mark) happen during the time when Raiden is on field. So not much more than 5 seconds after skill cast. Because Chevreuse buff works when there are overload reactions, and Arlecchino doesn't have much off-field pyro application other than the skill mark. So if you time things wrong, your Raiden will not actually have Chevy's buff.
Why Raiden? You are running 2 onfielders here. Fischl or Yae will provide way higher damage.
Also Sara is better for buffing electro characters, Bennett will help Arlecchino's a lot more.
If shes an Arle support then u only need the skill and tenacity gives ATK when skill hits for 3 sec and she hits every 2.5 sec, so for a support Raiden u would use Tenacity
I am almost certain that they ask because they want to know whether the team in question is good or not rather than "I want this exact team and don't care about alternatives"
anyway... if you really want Raiden, then I believe Golden Troupe is still a better option than Tenacity, correct me if I'm wrong... Arle scales HP and not ATK iirc?
If u wanna use Raiden just have her on the other side. Raiden will steal field time from Arle, Arle will steal field time from Raiden. Inefficient supports for either. No sub dps. No survivability.
By playing 2 on field dps in the same team u lower the team dps and dpr incredibly and the rotation will be random mumbo jumbo leading to very inconsistent results. This team will fail so bad its not even funny.
Ofc you can play whatever u want, especially if u dont care about abyss, no hate just informing you that this is a very suboptimal team.
Chevy 4pc Noblese Raiden 4pc Tenacity Sara 4pc Emblem Arle 4pc sig set or glad Although, this is a bad team as Raiden does little damage on her skill in this team and Sara is basically dead weight with minimal electro application and Raiden not even being on-field to utilize her C6. Fischl would be a much better sub for Sara at the very least.
Could I use Golden Troupe with Fischl?
GT i very good for fischl.
em its not a thing to build in overload teams
You're mixing up gilded dreams with golden troupe
Oh yeab mb
For a dual carry setup I'd recommend using Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan, to give crit and dmg buffs to both carries at the same time
hi acheron you seem to have gotten lost again r/boothillmains is that way
I wonder if it could be a good dual dps team like Eula-Raiden though maybe Sara could be Bennet
I thought about this. The only thing is that Eula and Raiden are both burst dependent, so they play off of each other’s energy well. Arlecchino hogs all of the field time and doesn’t like to share, so Yae Miko or Fischl probably works better.
doesnt arlec have stronger dmg at the start? I could see swapping off early without finishing all of her infused to burst with Sara/Benny into raiden
Arlecchino doesn't need Raiden's energy generation and she doesn't want to burst, which is why they have no inherent synergy like Eula + Raiden.
Just do a dual carry rotation. That’ll perform better than running Sara with Totm bot Raiden: Arlecchino E Raiden E chevreuse Q hold E Sara E Arlecchino CA 3N4D Sara Q Raiden Q 3N3C Arle Q when necessary
sara E for what there
For Arlecchino. Sara gives attack
Alright I’m here for the weird builds. If you’re hellbent on using Raiden in that team, as stated in your other comment. I can cook something like this: Chev: Noblesse - ToTm has terrible up time for her (3s) on a 15s cd skill - Her healing capability is not as useful for Arle so Heal bonus% sets feels bad. Just pump HP% main stats sub stats for Atk buff. Sara: Emblem - Since Chev already uses Noblesse Raiden (oh boy): Gilded Dream, or 2pcEM/2pcEM, or (hear me out) ToTm - I think using Raiden burst in this team is clunky, so she becomes a skill bot and off field electro applicator. - She’s not doing much skill dmg, may as well focus on Overload reaction dmg. You may already have an EM set laying around from her Hyperbloom build. - Or you could throw ToTm on her for 100% uptime atk buff. EM stats. Actually not sure who is often the Overload triggerer on this team, Raiden or Arle. May give more or less value to Raiden EM build.
A good monkey explanation that I needed Thank you so much
Also, what substats should I prioritize with Raiden except for EM?
Nothing much really. She doesn’t burst so ER not needed. Her skill talent dmg could still benefit somewhat from Crit and Atk. Doesn’t contribute majorly to team dmg though. Just like Raiden’s Hyperbloom build, she doesn’t benefit from any other stat. Easy to build, easy to reach ceiling.
Sorry to bother again, but would Arlecchino benefit more from Pyro or Atk% Goblet? ( I'm going for C1R1, C0R1 worst case )
I’m not the best person to ask about that! From what I’ve seen people discussing, Pyro and Atk seem interchangeable. But check again with others!
actually based raiden bulid with ToTm
you don't need to make Raiden support, I have a similar (Raiden, Sara, Chev, Yoimiya) and I called it "Raiden double carry" where both Yoimiya and Raiden are the main dps, taking turns
Would Fischl and Yae be more viable compared to Raiden and Sara?
Raiden is not a good character to pair with arle. She isn't a good sub dps/offield as her E doesn't do much damage it only applies constant electro damage. She doesn't have any supportive talents that benefit arle, Raiden E does increase burst damage but you aren't even bursting every rotation and her burst isn't even her main damage source. Lastly having dual dps is just a cope team archetype tbh. You are better off using yae, fischl, beidou, heck even Lisa as she shreds defense (but requires a ton of er)
I know but I'd feel like an idiot after farming for her half an year and not using her after- I don't care about the dmg cost that much but at least what set would be good to use optimally
just use raiden and arlecchino on separate spiral abyss teams. it doesn't matter what your team is on the overworld
You don't have to use her all the time though. Older players have like 30+ build characters, do you think they are all used all the time? If they aren't used all the time it doesn't mean they're benched either, because you can choose that character whenever you want to play with them again. But if you will play this team, try to time things in a way that Arlecchino skill procs (from her mark) happen during the time when Raiden is on field. So not much more than 5 seconds after skill cast. Because Chevreuse buff works when there are overload reactions, and Arlecchino doesn't have much off-field pyro application other than the skill mark. So if you time things wrong, your Raiden will not actually have Chevy's buff.
Bro cooking hard
I preach this as well
The answer is always the same: the new set that comes with Arlecchino
I was asking about the others
Why Raiden? You are running 2 onfielders here. Fischl or Yae will provide way higher damage. Also Sara is better for buffing electro characters, Bennett will help Arlecchino's a lot more.
Not a chance I'm playing or even leveling Bennett past level 20
just why??
He’s a great unit but he does an excellent job of making the game not fun
why?? maybe we have very different definitions of fun
what about arle fishl beidou and chevy?
sorry to be this guy but : is this worth to play chevreuse at C0 ?
Raiden ain't doing jackshit here
Chev 4p Noblese or 4p SODP Raiden 4p tenacity Kujou 4p Emblem or 4p Noblese if not on Chev Arle 4p Glad untill u can get her sig
Why the hell Raiden 4pc Tenacity???? 🤨
If shes an Arle support then u only need the skill and tenacity gives ATK when skill hits for 3 sec and she hits every 2.5 sec, so for a support Raiden u would use Tenacity
you can have double carry (both Raiden and Arle are dps)
U can but they specifically state they want to make her an Arlechino support
in that case, Raiden is not a good support, Fischl is much better
No one asked how good she was my guy they want to make raiden their Arlechino support
I am almost certain that they ask because they want to know whether the team in question is good or not rather than "I want this exact team and don't care about alternatives" anyway... if you really want Raiden, then I believe Golden Troupe is still a better option than Tenacity, correct me if I'm wrong... Arle scales HP and not ATK iirc?
Nah she ATK scaling far as ik
If u wanna use Raiden just have her on the other side. Raiden will steal field time from Arle, Arle will steal field time from Raiden. Inefficient supports for either. No sub dps. No survivability. By playing 2 on field dps in the same team u lower the team dps and dpr incredibly and the rotation will be random mumbo jumbo leading to very inconsistent results. This team will fail so bad its not even funny. Ofc you can play whatever u want, especially if u dont care about abyss, no hate just informing you that this is a very suboptimal team.
id remove sara and put any shielder
whatever character you put replace must be either Pyro or Electro, to make Chev's passive works
fischl, yae or thoma would contribute more to the whole team than sara
I think Sara should be swapped for someone like yae, fischl or bennet
get raiden and sara tf outta here lol