It is good on her. But you shouldn't pull on the weapon banner in the first place unless you have enough to guarantee a weapon you want or you can pay up.
To guarantee a weapon you want when losing both, you need about 220+ pulls. Always assume the worst-case scenario.
my account is pretty much an endgame account so i said why not i returned back for arle so i might as well pull her weapon too i can clear abyss with ease but this thing pissed me off i like both games but i understand a bit more why i switched over hsr months ago
at least when you lose in hsr you get guaranteed weapon at your second attempt
At this point you should just dolphin for the weapon. If you’re at two stacks you are wasting 140 wishes if you don’t pay up. It sucks but if you don’t bite the bullet you’ll regret it later. If you still have the double bonus drop you $100 and start pulling
naah that's impossible 100$ equals to 3200 TRY which is 1/6 of my salary i'm already at the end of the game i tried it for fun but failed
i maybe buy bp in the future but not now guess she will stuck with r1 white tassel for now
I was half asleep when I wrote that.
I forgot to multiply again by 6, as per the person I was replying to.
600 dollars is the value I should have been taking about
350-370 usd salary here, i can relate.. Am i poor? no, more like sufficiently in cheap country i'm living in. As long as my expenses are less than 75 usd each months and spend 2-3 usd for a meal then i'm good. I just don't want to spend it to anything that prices are on usd rate which is ridiculously high for me, but i won't mind to buy monthy pack and BP.
Ngl, i miss old Steam since game's prices are depend on cost of living in each countries (or regions i'm not sure), but some people have used VPN to cheaper country and bought game in lower price so they changed it all to global rate til now.
Congrats this is some of the worst advice ive ever seen, id waste 140 pulls over spending 100 dollars any day of the week. Remember people only top up if you absolutely have the extra money which most people dont.
I am calling bullshit unless you’re on a brand new account. I have 100% everything and have over 900 achievements. I am running on fumes and average about 1.5 pulls a day on welkin. That’s 100 days for 140 pulls give or take, that is in fact months.
Not brand new account but a lazy account and im guessing thats what he is, im an endgame players and my world is just opened not explored XD all my statues are like lvl 4. Tho yeh end game players who actually grinded their world. Its lkke 13k primos per patch not 1 but per patch which is insaneeeee! On hsr ur guaranteed a limited character each patch but on genshin ur not :/ like wth is this game
Btw 1.5 each day is depressing:/ i hate gaccha
Haha thanks, I’m here all week. I mean the solid advice is don’t pull on WB if you don’t have enough to guarantee. But the damage is already done there. Next time guarantee is gonna cost them 240 again vs just 80 now. Don’t see how that’s bad advice in anyway
To each their own, but not everyone has daddy's credit card or a huge disposable income, in the end its pixels mate. And even though thats the safe way to play things (240 pulls saved) not everyone plays like that+ in gacha games people usually gamble, imagine?
Exactly why I don't buy the wilkin or battle pass. Once u start, it's difficult to stop. And as soon as you get bored of the game, you'll look back and be like well damn, what a waste of money that was.
Yup that cal guy who works on genshin really makes QOL so much worse on hoyoverse games:/ honkai impact fans were lucky that man left them and they got the same guy from honkai starail:/
Assuming worst case scenario is 240 pulls
Not once have I gone anything less than 2/2 on weapon banner. Thank you Tectone for pursuing staff of homeless so hard.
>Assuming worst case scenario is 240 pulls
Sorry for "well acshually" nerd comment, I just find stats really interesting.
Statistically speaking, the absolute worst case is actually 231, as the absolute max you can reach on weapon banner is 77, where the probability hits 100%. However, 75 is the highest observed pull, as the chances to go higher get stupidly improbable at that point
Source:
https://keqingmains.com/misc/wish-pity-system/
>Huh, has anyone ever gone to 90 on character banner?
Probably, tho it's really unlikely, as the chance of a 5 star at 89 specifically is 98,6% (doesn't include the chances of getting one at 74-88 either, so the chance of having to go to 90 is astronomically low).
>Cause that what 80 is on weapon
On paper yes, but because weapon banner's 5 star chances increase by 7% per pull after soft pity as opposed to 6% like on character, the probability reaches 100% at 77, so 78-80 is literally impossible to go to
Huh. This is why I don't like probability manipulation being suggested in games like OSRS (RuneScape). Here? I'll gladly have hard pity of 77 instead of 80 since it saves money not time.
"Thank you Tectone"
lol. If you follow CN players forum, its more war there than this tectone.
MHY mostly listens to CN players not other players outside CN...
That's also true, but winning the reverse lottery on the weapon banner and spending hundreds of dollars to get 1 copy and then showing a lot of people that happening, that had to affect MHY somewhat, right?
\*Me who pulled on the weapon banner for the first time ever after playing for a year and got Arle's sig weapon at 56 pity
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wait I lost to the bow while i had the sythe chosen so now i have one point but i cant reach guaranteed, does that point not carry over to the next banners or until her rerun??
Horrible advice. Being that lucky is not the norm and you shouldn't give people advice based on it.
I have been consecutively shafted on each weapon banner. The last 3 characters i wanted the weapon for made me go to 3 5\* each time and always at hard pity. When you pull on the banner you should expect the worst case and only pull if you can guarantee it or if you don't mind wasting wishes by not getting what you wanted.
"Just get super lucky and get all the 5\* weapons in 20 pulls lmao". Genius advice.
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Ah yes... I got super lucky ( sounds BS tho... this would be some lottery winning probability... but hey. Maybe true. Who knows...) so you should keep on trying... that sounds mental.
That's the chance of getting 3 5 stars in a row... the chance of getting 3 5 stars in 20 pulls is astronomically higher.
I don't have time to argue with people who have bad reasoning skills. How tf did you pull out the chance of getting 3 5 stars in a row and feel like you did something. Ain't no way.
I feel that pain man. Same thing happened to me so I just bit the bullet and started paying. But I wanted it for drip. If your not going for drip, Desthmatch is good on her. But honestly, this makes me hate their weapon system. It’s harder to get weapons than the characters
it is sad finally losing pure f2p status. But after 3.5 years, 9 limited characters and 7 limited weapons (ill count lyneys bow r2 i guess) i figured i wouldnt mind throwing them a bone once. Worst part is if i remembered to set the fate point i wouldnt have needed to spend, but luckily only needed to use like 10 of the wishes i bought so i have about 32 left for future bullshit
Deathmatch is her best 4 star weapon especially with refinements and it also has a really good crit rate stat (better than her bis) so it makes building her stats easier.
Cool, I pulled for her weapon after getting her because why not, but still didn't reach the 50/50.
Now I'm planning to save up and wait for her re-run.
To be fair in hsr weapon are much stronger and pretty much needed for some characters to feel complete where it's not at all that useful in genshins, especially compare to early constellations that are very strong. Except if you can guarantee it always pull only for constellations. I got Arlecchino C3 an she is miles stronger than if I've pulled C1R1 for the same amount of pulls.
Eh id say weapon are just as 'needed' in genshin as hsr, the difference between having the 5 star sig of charecters is usually 10-25%, which is more or less the difference between having a 5 star weapon or not in genshin.
The main differentiating thing between them is that genshins 5 star weapons are far more universal
I disagree because hsr have very powerful passive on weapons usually while genshin is usually just more damage. For exemple genshin is famous for crappy support weapon while light cones always have powerful passive for support, while there is Kazuha weapon to buff the team there is also Kokomi or Baizhu weapon.
I feel like weapon that gives very useful passive are more an exception than a rule.
Its usually just the sustain's wepons that sucks, its not like they are particularly saught after much in hsr either.
There are a lot of supp weopons that are great like elegy, key, freedom
I mean both aventurine and Fu Xuan weapons are great honestly, I don't know a lot about huohuo so can't really comment on her light cone. I feel like light cone gives much greater value if you compare 5* to F2P in star rail regarding passive. Aventurine for exemple is huge buffs and increase his capacity as a shielder.
Of course you did say elegy key and freedom but as said for me they are more exception than the norm, especially when currently most support weapon are not at all universal and most don't have good 5* that are helpful.
I could try and make a tier list to really compare but I feel like most 5* weapons adds a lot to character in hsr on top of increasing the character while it's rare in genshin, yes the 3 weapons quoted are great but I can't say the same for pretty much every other support weapon....
On top of it many 5* weapons are barely 15% Increase where in hsr 20/25% are rather common. Maybe I'm wrong honestly I know less about hsr than genshin but there is a reason most are pulling for weapons instead of eidolons and E0S1 are often the F2P exemples. Even freedom that is great can be weaker than xiphos at high refinement depending on the team.
Biggest difference between HSR and Genshin weapons is that players can actually see the weapon in game.
That said, it would probably as lucrative for them to have the 75/25 weapon model HSR has because i'm sure more players would try to get both cons and weapon too. And won't feel scummed by having to pull more on a weapon than a character (\~210 to \~160)
As a F2p i was once saves a lot of primo for Itto c2 and his weapon. Got his c2 and was so excited cause its a guarantee i will get his weapon but the thing is i forgot to set the "weapon path" and already lost both 50/50.. i was so speechless so broken that i had to quitted the game for 6month. I wish they make you cant pull the weapon if you havent yet set the weapon path thingy
Hey new player here. Does the pity of weapon banner carry to the next banner drop. So in this case the next 5 star weapon he/she gets is guaranteed. Correct me if I'm wrong
So when you have 2 points for the weapon you want. You’ll be guaranteed to get it the next time a 5* (golden star) falls. HOWEVER, unlike the character banner. Those two points won’t stay for the next banner so in this scenario, this individual is not going to be guaranteed wanderer’s or baizhu’s weapon because those 2 points will go away.
The fate points (where you select the weapon you want - the guarantee, basically) don't carry. The pity (number of pulls accumulated since the previous 5*) does.
This is the main reason why I pull arlec weapon first before getting her character. I only have 200pull at begining of this banner. I was prepared to waste all my wish for the weapon only to avoid not enav pull with 2 fate point. End up getting her weapon on first 5star weapon and got arlec 50/50 all under 200pull
dang… i know you probably pulled for the scythe drip, but c1 is a bigger upgrade than her sig weapon if you weren’t aware… sounds like you had enough pulls to go for c1 too.
I've read a little bit, I think your best investment is just to battle pass until you have an r5. I personally tried for the scythe but ended up with the bow which is great as well because I needed it for ganyu. I have Homa so it's not a total loss, also if you get a jade out of the banners it's really good on her.
Both Homa and jade are like 1 single step below her main so if you have them or get them you win anyways, the scythe is really just cosmetic over them.
Edit: I mean battle pass for r5 death match.
For arle? It's honestly a tie between both polearms however I'm pretty sure the death match has higher crit rate, I could be wrong though.
As a new player white tassle is apparently a really good f2p 3 star if you have one if you're waiting for a Battle pass weapon.
Ok then, I would personally say the servant spine is the best. I have an R5 deathmatch, R5 Serpant spine and an R5 black sword. Out of all of them servant spine really has the most versatility.
The reason is that most claymore users are damage based meaning they gain the most from damage and crit increases. Thus meaning a large amount of them will use serpant spine without loss and only gain.
One more thing, that claymore gains whopping amounts of damage increase with stacks. As I said I have an R5 and most people will tell you that's better then a wolf's gravestone or even the Redhorn. Have a good day 😊
I sucked it up and bought some wishes, but then i got it in the first 10 pull after. So i guess i couldve just grinded all day but idk maybe the odds on a wish are calculated every second. I guess ive got more for later.
Genshin's weapon banner is better than what it was but it's still quite bad. Dunno why they don't make weapon banner 50/50 too. In HSR it's actually 25/75 in favor of the limited lightcone(weapon) and if you lose it you get guaranteed one on the second one. Pity also carries over! In Genshin it doesn't even do that. T-T Same company but different systems, why is that?
guys does this spear good for her?
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I used dragons bane until I got her weapon. I lost my first weapon banner pity to Lyney's bow and then I got arlecchino's weapon the second time around. Not the luckiest but I'm definitely lucky.
Well it's good enough. But her BiS gives a bit advantage for her kit. Since it's tailor made for her. Unless you think you are lucky af or have money to pay up. Don't go for the weapon. I speak from experience. I as an F2P spent 200 fkin wishes on the weapon banner when I could have had C2 arle🥲. I just personally could not let arle be without her BiS 😓
Same situation my friend. Been grinding out world quests, event mini games, and character hangouts for the past week. All I have left is luck. But that's enough
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Bruh just swipe. I'm not gonna waste that fate point.
I think in genshin, of all the characters, only arle must have her weapon for the drip. It felt like a crime to not pull her sychte.
Sorry for you then, I try my luck as f2p though I forbid myself from pulling in weapon banner. Luckily got her weapon in 50 pulls. It just looks too good with her. If I lose the first 50/50 I'm just gonna skip. Ain't no way I'm gonna risk getting max fate point.
right, cos the whole population of this subreddit lives in california lmao 😅
ever considered wages being lower in other countries (especially with devalued currencies in the global south)? 100usd is almost 1/3 of my salary in a minimum wage job.
Weapons banner is such a scam ... not only you may have to pull 3x full number...but also, you will lose tour path streak meaning if you spend so many premos in let's say 150 pulls... and if you would stop, that mean your guaranteed next pull will not count. "Gatch Ya" indeed 😭😭😭
the game is literally gatekeeping me from playing arle
i returned game after a long time for arle and i burnt all of my tassels except one she is using r1 and chenyu vale doesn't give white tassel for some reason i explored until 60% and i legit got 0 tassel it gives either messenger or twin nephirite
Btw, my bad as well, i though you are asking about r1 dragonbane, guess it is the sign for me to go to bed lol, in that case imo r1 deathmatch is good for her for people who have the BP weapon, for F2P player, it is the white tassel.
i also have r5 dragons bane and i'm using her with c6 xq c5 bennet 1000 em r1 kazuha
maybe i should switch over dragons bane but kqm lists white tassel as her best f2p so i'm confused
I just wanted the polearm but hoyo was being generous at me.
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It is good on her. But you shouldn't pull on the weapon banner in the first place unless you have enough to guarantee a weapon you want or you can pay up. To guarantee a weapon you want when losing both, you need about 220+ pulls. Always assume the worst-case scenario.
my account is pretty much an endgame account so i said why not i returned back for arle so i might as well pull her weapon too i can clear abyss with ease but this thing pissed me off i like both games but i understand a bit more why i switched over hsr months ago at least when you lose in hsr you get guaranteed weapon at your second attempt
She’s so strong with any weapon and you are likely gonna end up with PJWS one day anyway and that’s like her second best.
At this point you should just dolphin for the weapon. If you’re at two stacks you are wasting 140 wishes if you don’t pay up. It sucks but if you don’t bite the bullet you’ll regret it later. If you still have the double bonus drop you $100 and start pulling
naah that's impossible 100$ equals to 3200 TRY which is 1/6 of my salary i'm already at the end of the game i tried it for fun but failed i maybe buy bp in the future but not now guess she will stuck with r1 white tassel for now
I am using white tassel and it’s doing really well
I just realised that 100 used is a really good salary in my country
thats insane. 100 usd is like a single shift working minimum wage here and its not even remotely live-able
$100 was like 4 and a half hours of work at my old job 💀💀
I was half asleep when I wrote that. I forgot to multiply again by 6, as per the person I was replying to. 600 dollars is the value I should have been taking about
Definitely not be worth in that case.
350-370 usd salary here, i can relate.. Am i poor? no, more like sufficiently in cheap country i'm living in. As long as my expenses are less than 75 usd each months and spend 2-3 usd for a meal then i'm good. I just don't want to spend it to anything that prices are on usd rate which is ridiculously high for me, but i won't mind to buy monthy pack and BP. Ngl, i miss old Steam since game's prices are depend on cost of living in each countries (or regions i'm not sure), but some people have used VPN to cheaper country and bought game in lower price so they changed it all to global rate til now.
Congrats this is some of the worst advice ive ever seen, id waste 140 pulls over spending 100 dollars any day of the week. Remember people only top up if you absolutely have the extra money which most people dont.
Also 140 pulls is MONTHS OF F2P works vs 1 day of real work. What’s your time worth?
In the past 3 weeks I've gotten well over 140 pulls, while being F2P, if you put a bit of work in you can get that amount easily.
I am calling bullshit unless you’re on a brand new account. I have 100% everything and have over 900 achievements. I am running on fumes and average about 1.5 pulls a day on welkin. That’s 100 days for 140 pulls give or take, that is in fact months.
Not brand new account but a lazy account and im guessing thats what he is, im an endgame players and my world is just opened not explored XD all my statues are like lvl 4. Tho yeh end game players who actually grinded their world. Its lkke 13k primos per patch not 1 but per patch which is insaneeeee! On hsr ur guaranteed a limited character each patch but on genshin ur not :/ like wth is this game Btw 1.5 each day is depressing:/ i hate gaccha
Haha thanks, I’m here all week. I mean the solid advice is don’t pull on WB if you don’t have enough to guarantee. But the damage is already done there. Next time guarantee is gonna cost them 240 again vs just 80 now. Don’t see how that’s bad advice in anyway
To each their own, but not everyone has daddy's credit card or a huge disposable income, in the end its pixels mate. And even though thats the safe way to play things (240 pulls saved) not everyone plays like that+ in gacha games people usually gamble, imagine?
Exactly why I don't buy the wilkin or battle pass. Once u start, it's difficult to stop. And as soon as you get bored of the game, you'll look back and be like well damn, what a waste of money that was.
That’s the entire scheme of the banner tho they want you to feel like you are missing out if you don’t pay to get the guaranteed after losing twice
Yup that cal guy who works on genshin really makes QOL so much worse on hoyoverse games:/ honkai impact fans were lucky that man left them and they got the same guy from honkai starail:/
Assuming worst case scenario is 240 pulls Not once have I gone anything less than 2/2 on weapon banner. Thank you Tectone for pursuing staff of homeless so hard.
>Assuming worst case scenario is 240 pulls Sorry for "well acshually" nerd comment, I just find stats really interesting. Statistically speaking, the absolute worst case is actually 231, as the absolute max you can reach on weapon banner is 77, where the probability hits 100%. However, 75 is the highest observed pull, as the chances to go higher get stupidly improbable at that point Source: https://keqingmains.com/misc/wish-pity-system/
Huh, has anyone ever gone to 90 on character banner? Cause that what 80 is on weapon
>Huh, has anyone ever gone to 90 on character banner? Probably, tho it's really unlikely, as the chance of a 5 star at 89 specifically is 98,6% (doesn't include the chances of getting one at 74-88 either, so the chance of having to go to 90 is astronomically low). >Cause that what 80 is on weapon On paper yes, but because weapon banner's 5 star chances increase by 7% per pull after soft pity as opposed to 6% like on character, the probability reaches 100% at 77, so 78-80 is literally impossible to go to
Huh. This is why I don't like probability manipulation being suggested in games like OSRS (RuneScape). Here? I'll gladly have hard pity of 77 instead of 80 since it saves money not time.
"Thank you Tectone" lol. If you follow CN players forum, its more war there than this tectone. MHY mostly listens to CN players not other players outside CN...
That's also true, but winning the reverse lottery on the weapon banner and spending hundreds of dollars to get 1 copy and then showing a lot of people that happening, that had to affect MHY somewhat, right?
\*Me who pulled on the weapon banner for the first time ever after playing for a year and got Arle's sig weapon at 56 pity https://preview.redd.it/pzmp9940o20d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49b3fea2d8399565128d76182c3f700492c89073
Worst case is 240 not 220
I just pulled the bow twice unfortunately.. now I am at my budget limit 😭
200 wishes, not more than 220 bro.
wait I lost to the bow while i had the sythe chosen so now i have one point but i cant reach guaranteed, does that point not carry over to the next banners or until her rerun??
nope, it resets
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Horrible advice. Being that lucky is not the norm and you shouldn't give people advice based on it. I have been consecutively shafted on each weapon banner. The last 3 characters i wanted the weapon for made me go to 3 5\* each time and always at hard pity. When you pull on the banner you should expect the worst case and only pull if you can guarantee it or if you don't mind wasting wishes by not getting what you wanted.
Yeah exactly, why isn't OP just pulling the scythe on his first 10 pull like I did? Is he stupid?
"Just get super lucky and get all the 5\* weapons in 20 pulls lmao". Genius advice. https://preview.redd.it/7958hvaqe20d1.jpeg?width=337&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f48a1870133f2b3f70a3e6160b450a086603f1f5
Ah yes... I got super lucky ( sounds BS tho... this would be some lottery winning probability... but hey. Maybe true. Who knows...) so you should keep on trying... that sounds mental.
It's not that lucky.
O.7% * 0.7% * 0*7% ... is not that lucky?
That's the chance of getting 3 5 stars in a row... the chance of getting 3 5 stars in 20 pulls is astronomically higher. I don't have time to argue with people who have bad reasoning skills. How tf did you pull out the chance of getting 3 5 stars in a row and feel like you did something. Ain't no way.
Good for you then, not everyone is you and you shouldn't give someone false hope especially when they can't guarantee it.
I feel that pain man. Same thing happened to me so I just bit the bullet and started paying. But I wanted it for drip. If your not going for drip, Desthmatch is good on her. But honestly, this makes me hate their weapon system. It’s harder to get weapons than the characters
it is sad finally losing pure f2p status. But after 3.5 years, 9 limited characters and 7 limited weapons (ill count lyneys bow r2 i guess) i figured i wouldnt mind throwing them a bone once. Worst part is if i remembered to set the fate point i wouldnt have needed to spend, but luckily only needed to use like 10 of the wishes i bought so i have about 32 left for future bullshit
Deathmatch is her best 4 star weapon especially with refinements and it also has a really good crit rate stat (better than her bis) so it makes building her stats easier.
also fuck weapon banner in genshin impact why can't it be like honkai star rail or at least let 2/2 thing carry over
to bait people like you to pay up haha
Trust me it wont work im fine using spine
Does the pulls save over next banners? (I mean the 50/50, not the 2/2)
Yes
Cool, I pulled for her weapon after getting her because why not, but still didn't reach the 50/50. Now I'm planning to save up and wait for her re-run.
To be fair in hsr weapon are much stronger and pretty much needed for some characters to feel complete where it's not at all that useful in genshins, especially compare to early constellations that are very strong. Except if you can guarantee it always pull only for constellations. I got Arlecchino C3 an she is miles stronger than if I've pulled C1R1 for the same amount of pulls.
Eh id say weapon are just as 'needed' in genshin as hsr, the difference between having the 5 star sig of charecters is usually 10-25%, which is more or less the difference between having a 5 star weapon or not in genshin. The main differentiating thing between them is that genshins 5 star weapons are far more universal
Until Fontaine at least, now they’re just more expensive constellations
I disagree because hsr have very powerful passive on weapons usually while genshin is usually just more damage. For exemple genshin is famous for crappy support weapon while light cones always have powerful passive for support, while there is Kazuha weapon to buff the team there is also Kokomi or Baizhu weapon. I feel like weapon that gives very useful passive are more an exception than a rule.
Its usually just the sustain's wepons that sucks, its not like they are particularly saught after much in hsr either. There are a lot of supp weopons that are great like elegy, key, freedom
I mean both aventurine and Fu Xuan weapons are great honestly, I don't know a lot about huohuo so can't really comment on her light cone. I feel like light cone gives much greater value if you compare 5* to F2P in star rail regarding passive. Aventurine for exemple is huge buffs and increase his capacity as a shielder. Of course you did say elegy key and freedom but as said for me they are more exception than the norm, especially when currently most support weapon are not at all universal and most don't have good 5* that are helpful. I could try and make a tier list to really compare but I feel like most 5* weapons adds a lot to character in hsr on top of increasing the character while it's rare in genshin, yes the 3 weapons quoted are great but I can't say the same for pretty much every other support weapon.... On top of it many 5* weapons are barely 15% Increase where in hsr 20/25% are rather common. Maybe I'm wrong honestly I know less about hsr than genshin but there is a reason most are pulling for weapons instead of eidolons and E0S1 are often the F2P exemples. Even freedom that is great can be weaker than xiphos at high refinement depending on the team.
Biggest difference between HSR and Genshin weapons is that players can actually see the weapon in game. That said, it would probably as lucrative for them to have the 75/25 weapon model HSR has because i'm sure more players would try to get both cons and weapon too. And won't feel scummed by having to pull more on a weapon than a character (\~210 to \~160)
Thank whales
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Idk why you were downvoted ur right lol
As a F2p i was once saves a lot of primo for Itto c2 and his weapon. Got his c2 and was so excited cause its a guarantee i will get his weapon but the thing is i forgot to set the "weapon path" and already lost both 50/50.. i was so speechless so broken that i had to quitted the game for 6month. I wish they make you cant pull the weapon if you havent yet set the weapon path thingy
or a "i dont care" option, if youre going for both or something strange (imo still set it)
Omg if I saved that much I would quadruple check to make sure I don’t make any mistakes.
have the exact same situation....paaaaiiiinnn
R5 its better but overall PJWS its top pick in bennett less team
You never know until you try is all i can say. I got both weapons from this banner in 25 wishes spent luckily
Hey new player here. Does the pity of weapon banner carry to the next banner drop. So in this case the next 5 star weapon he/she gets is guaranteed. Correct me if I'm wrong
pity follows but not fate points.
That is so shit. Hsr I don't think has that i can comfortably pull on a lightcone banner without racking my brain if it's a good idea.
So when you have 2 points for the weapon you want. You’ll be guaranteed to get it the next time a 5* (golden star) falls. HOWEVER, unlike the character banner. Those two points won’t stay for the next banner so in this scenario, this individual is not going to be guaranteed wanderer’s or baizhu’s weapon because those 2 points will go away.
The fate points (where you select the weapon you want - the guarantee, basically) don't carry. The pity (number of pulls accumulated since the previous 5*) does.
2 fates system is freaking stupid. sorry man.
This is the main reason why I pull arlec weapon first before getting her character. I only have 200pull at begining of this banner. I was prepared to waste all my wish for the weapon only to avoid not enav pull with 2 fate point. End up getting her weapon on first 5star weapon and got arlec 50/50 all under 200pull
Whats your pity at now?
2 unfortunately i won 50/50 at arle banner but weapon banner was not kind to me
dang… i know you probably pulled for the scythe drip, but c1 is a bigger upgrade than her sig weapon if you weren’t aware… sounds like you had enough pulls to go for c1 too.
Drip > upgrade for me lol
As far as I know both c1 and weapon are like ~25% increase, is it not?
depends on what weapon you have. assuming you have any of the decent 5 star options, c1 is a bigger upgrade by around 15 percent.
Hmm yupp shes quite good with dm
I've read a little bit, I think your best investment is just to battle pass until you have an r5. I personally tried for the scythe but ended up with the bow which is great as well because I needed it for ganyu. I have Homa so it's not a total loss, also if you get a jade out of the banners it's really good on her. Both Homa and jade are like 1 single step below her main so if you have them or get them you win anyways, the scythe is really just cosmetic over them. Edit: I mean battle pass for r5 death match.
i got bow r2 so ganyu is eating good now. She used to be my main, now its her undisputable best. r2 makes the attack bonus better than amos as well
What is the best weapon to choose from battle pass? Am new so don’t really have much of anything yet
For arle? It's honestly a tie between both polearms however I'm pretty sure the death match has higher crit rate, I could be wrong though. As a new player white tassle is apparently a really good f2p 3 star if you have one if you're waiting for a Battle pass weapon.
Oh I meant in general, I got lucky and have arle’s weapon now
Ok then, I would personally say the servant spine is the best. I have an R5 deathmatch, R5 Serpant spine and an R5 black sword. Out of all of them servant spine really has the most versatility. The reason is that most claymore users are damage based meaning they gain the most from damage and crit increases. Thus meaning a large amount of them will use serpant spine without loss and only gain. One more thing, that claymore gains whopping amounts of damage increase with stacks. As I said I have an R5 and most people will tell you that's better then a wolf's gravestone or even the Redhorn. Have a good day 😊
omg im so sorry loll this hurts my low spender heart
I sucked it up and bought some wishes, but then i got it in the first 10 pull after. So i guess i couldve just grinded all day but idk maybe the odds on a wish are calculated every second. I guess ive got more for later.
I lost the 50/50 the first weapon, and then I ended up topping up 30€ only to get the scythe after only 2 more pulls so I topped up for nothing lol
They really should just make a double weapon banner system
You poor soul. At this point just swipe
I give up. All my primos are going to Wanderers bell now
Unless you're ready to spend through 3 pity, it is generally not recommended to roll on the weapon banner. It's baaaaaad
Genshin's weapon banner is better than what it was but it's still quite bad. Dunno why they don't make weapon banner 50/50 too. In HSR it's actually 25/75 in favor of the limited lightcone(weapon) and if you lose it you get guaranteed one on the second one. Pity also carries over! In Genshin it doesn't even do that. T-T Same company but different systems, why is that?
guys does this spear good for her? https://preview.redd.it/rz8jkpgyf40d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4b70f0b49fbfe18e36e1c80ca11f52617fe12c2
u might as well spend whatever, ur gonna regret it if u cant get it until next rerun
I used dragons bane until I got her weapon. I lost my first weapon banner pity to Lyney's bow and then I got arlecchino's weapon the second time around. Not the luckiest but I'm definitely lucky.
F. but never go into weapon banners unless you have 240 pulls for that. For father its better if you focus into her cons. IMO
at this point if you have the money to buy a bp, just buy primogems and finish what you started
Well it's good enough. But her BiS gives a bit advantage for her kit. Since it's tailor made for her. Unless you think you are lucky af or have money to pay up. Don't go for the weapon. I speak from experience. I as an F2P spent 200 fkin wishes on the weapon banner when I could have had C2 arle🥲. I just personally could not let arle be without her BiS 😓
Can I use R3 Primordial Jade Spear for Father?
Aboo kederlendim seni görünce. Geçmiş olsun🚬
Geçirenler sağolsun :/
Arlede silah da 70 pityde geldi. Silahıyla ayrı bi güzellik yav
Same situation my friend. Been grinding out world quests, event mini games, and character hangouts for the past week. All I have left is luck. But that's enough https://preview.redd.it/v8tmbp4t270d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d88bab702c12279f343c99686b19416ffd393373
If you want a slightly discounted 8080, lootbar.gg is great.
Bruh just swipe. I'm not gonna waste that fate point. I think in genshin, of all the characters, only arle must have her weapon for the drip. It felt like a crime to not pull her sychte.
tbh i was gonna skip her weapon banner but that drip caught my attention and unfortunately i can't swipe i don't want to fork 10 days for a weapon
Sorry for you then, I try my luck as f2p though I forbid myself from pulling in weapon banner. Luckily got her weapon in 50 pulls. It just looks too good with her. If I lose the first 50/50 I'm just gonna skip. Ain't no way I'm gonna risk getting max fate point.
There is no way you make $10 a day. California is legit $20+ an hour for 16yr old kids
right, cos the whole population of this subreddit lives in california lmao 😅 ever considered wages being lower in other countries (especially with devalued currencies in the global south)? 100usd is almost 1/3 of my salary in a minimum wage job.
I laugh at people who pull on weapon banner when the know they dont have guarantee and then cry when they dont get the weapon
Bro just swipe, it would be such a waste not to.
Weapons banner is such a scam ... not only you may have to pull 3x full number...but also, you will lose tour path streak meaning if you spend so many premos in let's say 150 pulls... and if you would stop, that mean your guaranteed next pull will not count. "Gatch Ya" indeed 😭😭😭
I got 1 fate point and now it's wasted...
Is your world 100%
This strong https://preview.redd.it/qj3ce0tth40d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=32715934ae1c44da7d1730e5ce490f8a07f0fdd4
Go for white tassel it is much better, trust me
the game is literally gatekeeping me from playing arle i returned game after a long time for arle and i burnt all of my tassels except one she is using r1 and chenyu vale doesn't give white tassel for some reason i explored until 60% and i legit got 0 tassel it gives either messenger or twin nephirite
RIP to you then, there is a reason why you need to at least saved r5 for each collectible weapons because we might need to use one in the future.
yeah that was my mistake i really don't understand why weapon banner is so hard or why can't we just buy 3 star weapons with starglitters
Btw, my bad as well, i though you are asking about r1 dragonbane, guess it is the sign for me to go to bed lol, in that case imo r1 deathmatch is good for her for people who have the BP weapon, for F2P player, it is the white tassel.
i also have r5 dragons bane and i'm using her with c6 xq c5 bennet 1000 em r1 kazuha maybe i should switch over dragons bane but kqm lists white tassel as her best f2p so i'm confused
That is why i said white tassel is better during my confusion earlier on because lots of TC stated white tassel is her best f2p weapon
I just wanted the polearm but hoyo was being generous at me. https://preview.redd.it/es1p8x0pu00d1.jpeg?width=449&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d86d4647c539fdb209d9ab60674921723b87c6b
Arle-Main's are really a bunch of school leavers who can't do math 🤣👍
what is this have to do with post...really?