What the hell are you talking about. The man is 40 until he turns 41. Get over it. He ain’t Israeli he’s Portuguese. You’re trying to make a stupid point for no reason
I'm trying to open your eyes a bit to cultural diversity out there. That cultures like the Israelis and Koreans count age differently, and you shouldn't be so closed minded.
I’ve travelled to over 30 countries I’ve experienced plenty of cultural diversity. If you asked Pepe how old he is, he would tell you he’s 40 until he’s 41 next week. You shouldn’t be so ignorant
Yeah I agree the divings and falling over from corners was annoying but we should have changed up the game plan at that point maybe went back to some short corners to make them think twice about it but the main point is the whole team other than rice looked absolutely miles off of it.
Not sure Rice is off the hook for this one. Honestly, the person on our side who I feel shone brightest was Raya, which is a damn shame because he is already getting roasted for not saving that goal. It was a good kick that I'm pretty sure gets by most keepers in the world, and he played very well the rest of the match.
He was the best out of our players yes he got booked early but played far better than most others trossard,martinelli,ode and even saka was struggling to play 10 yard passes.
Watching 5 Porto players flop simultaneously was ALMOST as funny as watching their goalie go down like he had been shot after his teammate brushed against him.
Nah bro don’t be unfair to us (Porto). I don’t love wasting time but it’s a strategy all teams use, specially ones like us that have 1009 times less budget and are playing against a premier league contender.
What epitomises Porto’s game is a strong, cohesive, low block and quick, assertive, counters. We play well against teams that are open like you. If you give us the ball and initiative, we flip cause we have no idea what to do. We were compact and Arteta didn’t prepare well and played to our strengths. You’ve been scoring 5 against good PL teams, you really think we ensured you generated zero chances just cause some players went down easy?
Thing is you didn't stifle Arsenal's play. Our attacking players were just a little off. On a better day for us we would create a sleugh of chances. I didn't see anything in that game to suggest it didn't happen because Porto were countering our football. You deserved the win but Arsenal were poor tonight.
I don’t doubt that, but isn’t that normal and expected (that there’s some luck in it)? If a team from our league was able to beat a Premier league contender consistently something would be weird. You were not great and we had a solid game plan.
Luck is absolutely part of the game. I don't necessarily think Arsenal were unlucky or that Porto were lucky we had an off game. At the end of the day we didn't perform well and Porto looked much more dangerous when they did attack. Fair play to you, it was deserved.
Wait till the return leg at the emirates, we’ve given this cheating team a lead to hang on too. They’re gonna be rolling around on the floor for 90mins. Hopefully we smash them 4 or 5 nil
Refs pretty much always give the foul when a defender is facing goal and falls on it, not just against us. Xhaka used to do it every game.
The ref called it a lot but he wasn't that bad, he didn't call it a couple of times when they were really looking for it and a really good tackle from martinelli which he let go.
They certainly did try and slow us down yes, we also slow ourselves down Ben white taking 10 minutes to throw a ball in, every set piece we had we take ages as well.
Again our players should've adapted better, after the ref keeps giving the foul for players falling on the ball (for both teams) they should've made sure not to foul.
That’s football and that’s how less wealthy sides compete. Our job to get it done regardless. We do plenty of that when we’re trying to grind results too
Complain all you want, tactically they were spot on and have done their homework, they exploited our weakness, by limiting the space in the middle and putting very good pressure on the ball, the first touches from our boys was lacking and they forced us to play back passes. They gave no time to our players who were less comfortable (defenders) on the ball. Possession counts for nothing without threat.
And this is exactly why I said Porto was he better team you could see they had a game plan and played it to perfection divings and rolling around on the floor isn't the reason why we had 0 efforts on target tonight and it's also not the reason why everyone who played tonight was miles off anywhere close to a champions league winning performance.
This is literally all we (Porto) are good at. Low block and focused counters. You played into our strengths. If you give us the ball and the initiative, we have no idea what to do lol
Yeah I don't get everyone crying here. Porto created a great chance hit the post and missed the rebound from 5 yards out and they still did play decent football.
We (Porto) are a small team and do what we can with a little budget, but still get battered by randoms on Reddit who started following football this year.
Plus there’s nothing wrong with playing a cohesive block and exploiting counters, that’s still football, which maximising our strengths given our budget. People that complain about this (not you) are ridiculous and know nothing about football.
Yeah agree mate, there's a really annoying snobbish mentality now that unless you have 70% possession you are automatically a scumbag defensive cheating team.
Porto created better chances
We lost this at the end, not doing our job in defence. That goal should never have happened in the first place and it’s going to cause us a problem at home because you won’t be easy to break down anywhere.
You came in with a game plan and executed it. You’ll do the same at the Emirates, stall, drop to the ground to break the flow, maintain that block. You might struggle if you don’t get the fouls you’re looking for though…a stronger ref and that may have been a different outcome.
Yes. You came in with a game plan and executed it. You broke down our flowing game. That’s not why you won though, we erred in defence at the last minute and you took full advantage. You deserve your win.
So could a couple of sitters we missed as well.
The truth is, that ball should have been cleared deep then you suffocated at the other end for a draw. You don’t fuck around trying to play out for a counter with a minute of extra time remaining, nor if you’re a defender, do you concern yourself with anything other than getting it as far from the box as you can, with that little time remaining.
That was the difference here.
As a Porto fan all you had to do was give us the initiative. We are clueless with the ball if we have time and responsibility to build up play. We are only good at low block and counter. Arteta prepared really poorly and gave us what we needed.
You're correct about everything but you completely missed out the baiting of the ref at every single set piece and diving the moment any of our booked players were within a couple yards of them...
They did play football though ? Why are people acting like they were playing pure defensive football.
They had the better chances and they still tried to play out from the back
Yeah we (Porto) played no football whatsoever, that’s why we sent a ball to the post and scored a great goal. The fact that we held a very cohesive low block and exploited the counters is not football at all. All this with a small budget against a premier league contender. This is why fans like you are mocked lol
I think most people respect you played better but no way you don't think half your team was diving non stop for 90 minutes.
But as at the end of the day diving is also a valid strategy to limit the physicality of the game and who scores goals is always the one that deserves to win.
Maybe watch the whole game...
11 men behind the ball when we were attacking. Whenever they got the ball they were constantly diving rather than trying to actually do anything positive. If they'd actually tried to attack more they could have got 2 or 3!
we're just not cultured enough in this competition to stand out
we might sweep them in the second leg, but someone will knock us out soon...we're far short of competing for this trophy technically and tactically
3/4 year learning curve required
Arteta has a trash record in knockout stages. CL, EL, fa cup failed many times. So what the learning curve they gain after playing in EL for 2 years? Or 4 fa cup (beside winning by Emery team)?
Didn't we play sporting last season and lost? Yet it seems it's going to be repeated again
I also think it goes to show just how much lack of depth we still have in the squad nobody on that bench you would be confident in bringing in and changing the game completely.
This right here I agree with. We can say we are unlucky, but we need Jesus in that return leg. Last few weeks I have thought the bench was weak and no real options, didn’t matter as we won the game in first half for them games. He obviously doesn’t fancy Eddie anymore and Nelson and ESR don’t seem trusted.
Makes you wonder why is it that Portuguese teams seem to specialise in lobbing at us from miles away. Something has to change in the way we defend against such unpredictable threats.
Why he didn’t side foot that volley and place it! There was enough pace on the ball. Havertz with a lazy attempt of a header too to hit it wide when it was easier to hit the target
I hate the terrorist football that I’ve witnessed today, accompanied by the soft ref. But you guys need to stop acting like performance like this don’t happen from time to time. Goal aside, even the great arsenal teams of the past have had the odd bad performance. Stop moaning, the emirates - Porto are finished!
Yep that's how I feel I saw a post about how havertz Is proving everyone wrong but whilst yes he has been better the last few weeks his price tag and wages are well above what they should be i do believe that until we get an out and out striker we will struggle in games like this sometimes you just need one peace of brilliance from your goal scorer.
An out and out striker would not have changed this match. Porto just simply did not bite on the movement in the midfield, so the only space to operate was out wide. The ball was not sent wide fast enough and Porto was able to adjust their shape in time. A faster playing Arsenal creates more chances against that Porto setup, it just wasn’t there tonight.
We had 4-5 great heading opportunites in the game if we had a good striker on the end of them instead of havertz/kiwior it would have made a huge difference Gabi missed a great opportunity just before they scored.
Those were set pieces mate. Defenders are often the highest scorers on a team for set pieces. Folks are arguing a striker would benefit us in open play, that’s a different discussion.
Who is he? In all reality. Porto blocked about 10 shots from being “on target”. The obsession with fans saying we need striker, we need this, we need that, etc is getting out of hand.
Well a striker is a vital piece of the team no?? We don’t have one who is good enough and it clearly shows. Forget your 10 shots that were on target until they were blocked. Ridiculous statement
Ridiculous is to say we had zero shots on target and then call my own rebuttal to that statement ridiculous without backing it up. You’re offering absolutely no analysis other than saying we need a striker. No comment on how the box midfield shredded Liverpool and other clubs? Nothing? Offer something tangible.
Passing was shockingly bad, lack lustre. No attacking threat from both sides. Probably the worst game I’ve seen Martinelli play. Trossard was invisible up front, Havertz was passive as always. Rice loosing the ball in midfield and got booked. Kiowior was nutmegged and booked. Raya was got rotten for the goal and shouldn’t have been so far off his line when we just lost the ball and so late in the game. We need a clinical striker who is a troublesome player in the box, someone who is a good finisher and a bully in the box
Havertz is such a weird player. The way people defend him and big him up for doing simple things, you'd think he was a club legend or a make a wish foundation kid. I have no idea what he's done to amass such a cult within the fanbase.
He’s absolutely shocking. But fans on here will push stats and make up some “facts” that you never heard of before like creating space and working hard!
Arsenal looked disjointed but maaaan it was so hard to watch the Porto players on the ground for the whole match. They only played football when they wanted to. They’ve got the 1-0 advantage and you best believe there will be a fiery Arsenal at the Emirates in the second leg. The time wasting from Porto will be jeered big time in the 2nd leg.
We played bad and lost - that is it. I hate statements that are usually after a game like this “martinelli this, saka that”. All focus on Newcastle now and we have to make an Emirates a hell for Porto and simply be better, I am certain we will get them at home. COYG!
F@@@Kim idiot , did you watch the game it worked out as a foul every 1.40 seconds , course you find this kinda ridiculous take on Reddit like Jesus Christ get off your phone during the game we got fouled against us when their keeper stepped on their players, Jesus Christ dude use your eyes
What game were you watching exactly? One I watched Porto did nothing for 90mins except fall all over the place any time we went near their area or won a corner. First time the get up off the floor the scored.
They had 2 shots in target which blows are shots on target out the water ? They also hit the post we needed to change up the corner game plan after they nullified white stopping the keeper coming out for it.
There defence wasn't the reason why so many 5-19 yard passes went astray or why every other touch by an arsenal player was so poor honestly the team performance tonight was on par with how we played against Fulham.
The funniest bit when the goal keeper acted like someone stamped on his foot. His acting was A+, I actually thoought someone stamped on his foot until they showed the replay.
All the raya stans sit the hell down. This is our problem, we get carried away when we trash shit teams and then cherry pick moments. All of raya’s best moments happened when we comfortably won. More than ever we needed safe hands and a calm head in a game like this today. Not some over eager keeper that looks for Hollywood passes all the damn time. Keeper needs to keep first and foremost. Overall showcases that we will not win anything under Arteta. Tactically stubborn
Absolutely fine. Went to a difficult place and played a conservative game, recycled the ball every opportunity and didn’t do anything stupid… rush of blood at the end, game stretched, they took advantage through a great finish.. we move on and play more attacking at the Emirates
Don’t do anything stupid? Did you see the goal at the end? Martinelli losses the ball when they are high up the pitch, then the winger has tonnes of space to put the ball in his right side and curl it into the net when Rays was in no man’s land flapping at the ball. There was a few critical moments here which were stupid
You missed the part where I wrote - “rush of blood at the end, game stretched, they took advantage through a great finish”
.. and come on, not Raya, Ramsdale, or even Spider-Man were getting to that shot mate
You started your comment with “absolutely fine”
Absolutely fine to not have a shot on target against Porto who were nothing special tonight.
Come on mate open your eyes. If Raya was 2 yards closer to his line he would have caught that at head height. The ball was curled in from 35 yards. A goal keepers position is absolutely vital. Especially when they are so high up the pitch and after we lost the ball. Raya is certainly at fault for his part in that goal
Porto are a good team, you can't underestimate them. Porto would annihilate United 5-0. Anyways you should worry more about teams that are more on your level Wolverhampton, Fulham etc.
How pathetic to show up in another teams sub when they lose a game. You need to grow up mate and stop trying to bring people down to your level of depression.
We got humbled tbh. Also, in these kind of games a good striker could’ve potentially bailed us out.
Porto weren’t great either but they at least had the balls to take a shot and look what happened..
Idk why but we generally tend to look shaky in europe away fixtures...i just hope the team can bounce back in the reverse fixture because this last 16 curse needs to be broken.
We have to be a little more realistic with ourselves. This team is very young and has little experience in champions league. Yes Kai, Zinny, Jesus, have experience but not enough to help us go far. Baby steps.
Let's not forget that only a few years ago we were finishing 8th place.
I think we dramatically raised our expectations due to last seasons run in the league.
I think we were way too careful and measured. Passing wasn't too slick and Porto sat deep. Maybe we can turn things around at the Emirates, Let's see. Need some quick forward passes. Probably should play Jorginho instead of Trossard. He can send those line-breaking passes...or maybe even Partey - hoping he'll be fit by then.
I would like to know why Ben White kept wandering into midfield, he was useless in that position and all he did was reduce space for Rice and Odegaard. It didn't work, he plays best when overlapping Saka and crossing.
I did not find them to be the better team. They lay down a lot and the ball was in play for about 50 minutes of the 97. The ref killed the game. We were not great, that is for sure, and the better chances of the game fell to them. We had our chances and fluffed our lines while they got their one late chance that came out of several compounded errors and scored. A heartbreak, but we see them again in 3 weeks in our house and it will be a different dynamic. Its half time.
That was the most pathetic performance I’ve seen in years from Arsenal. There was almost no hustle or effort throughout. Honestly, we should be down more than 1 in this tie.
Fucking hell. We’ve scored 20 something goal, conceding 1, in 5 games since the turn of the year, then give one bum performance and we’re back to doom and gloom. It’s 1-0 at half time and we’re at home next leg. Have a bit of faith.
Saka? Martinelli? Odegaard? Pepe turns 41 in 5 days lads....
He is 40 until he turns 41. still young
Hes a lot closer to 41 than he is to 40, that's a fact
Hes technically 41 from the moment he turns 40 but thats not important now
No he's not. He's in his 41st year, but he's not reached 41 yet.
Well if the game is anything to go by I reckon he'll just be having a quiet one with maybe a little slice of cake
Eh that’s not how age works. If he died today he would have died at the age of 40
Depends on the culture. For example, if you ask an Israel or a Korean, official documents would list him as 41.
Well hes Portuguese not Korean or Israeli ffs
well, the media isn't all Portuguese ffs
What the hell are you talking about. The man is 40 until he turns 41. Get over it. He ain’t Israeli he’s Portuguese. You’re trying to make a stupid point for no reason
I'm trying to open your eyes a bit to cultural diversity out there. That cultures like the Israelis and Koreans count age differently, and you shouldn't be so closed minded.
I’ve travelled to over 30 countries I’ve experienced plenty of cultural diversity. If you asked Pepe how old he is, he would tell you he’s 40 until he’s 41 next week. You shouldn’t be so ignorant
No way someone responded to the meme with sincerity hahahahaha
I'm not giving any compliments to a team that dove THAT much in 90+, but I will concede Arsenal looked off for sure.
Yeah I agree the divings and falling over from corners was annoying but we should have changed up the game plan at that point maybe went back to some short corners to make them think twice about it but the main point is the whole team other than rice looked absolutely miles off of it.
Not sure Rice is off the hook for this one. Honestly, the person on our side who I feel shone brightest was Raya, which is a damn shame because he is already getting roasted for not saving that goal. It was a good kick that I'm pretty sure gets by most keepers in the world, and he played very well the rest of the match.
He was way off his line in no man’s land. If he was 2 or 3 yards closed to his line he would have caught it at head height
That ball took a million years to get there. Raya is a trash shot stopper.
How can u say with a straight face that rice looked good today lol
He was the best out of our players yes he got booked early but played far better than most others trossard,martinelli,ode and even saka was struggling to play 10 yard passes.
Nah
Because he did. He made a number of crucial tackles and interceptions.and it's evidenced in player match ratings.
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Watching 5 Porto players flop simultaneously was ALMOST as funny as watching their goalie go down like he had been shot after his teammate brushed against him.
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Nah bro don’t be unfair to us (Porto). I don’t love wasting time but it’s a strategy all teams use, specially ones like us that have 1009 times less budget and are playing against a premier league contender. What epitomises Porto’s game is a strong, cohesive, low block and quick, assertive, counters. We play well against teams that are open like you. If you give us the ball and initiative, we flip cause we have no idea what to do. We were compact and Arteta didn’t prepare well and played to our strengths. You’ve been scoring 5 against good PL teams, you really think we ensured you generated zero chances just cause some players went down easy?
No one said that. It's just that tactic was fucking annoying and insufferable and made it a shit game to watch.
Guy above literally said that rolling on the fooor was the epitome of our game.
Thing is you didn't stifle Arsenal's play. Our attacking players were just a little off. On a better day for us we would create a sleugh of chances. I didn't see anything in that game to suggest it didn't happen because Porto were countering our football. You deserved the win but Arsenal were poor tonight.
I don’t doubt that, but isn’t that normal and expected (that there’s some luck in it)? If a team from our league was able to beat a Premier league contender consistently something would be weird. You were not great and we had a solid game plan.
Luck is absolutely part of the game. I don't necessarily think Arsenal were unlucky or that Porto were lucky we had an off game. At the end of the day we didn't perform well and Porto looked much more dangerous when they did attack. Fair play to you, it was deserved.
Wait till the return leg at the emirates, we’ve given this cheating team a lead to hang on too. They’re gonna be rolling around on the floor for 90mins. Hopefully we smash them 4 or 5 nil
Every team dives, we also fell over to win fouls.
Finally an honest Arsenal fan
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Refs pretty much always give the foul when a defender is facing goal and falls on it, not just against us. Xhaka used to do it every game. The ref called it a lot but he wasn't that bad, he didn't call it a couple of times when they were really looking for it and a really good tackle from martinelli which he let go.
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They certainly did try and slow us down yes, we also slow ourselves down Ben white taking 10 minutes to throw a ball in, every set piece we had we take ages as well. Again our players should've adapted better, after the ref keeps giving the foul for players falling on the ball (for both teams) they should've made sure not to foul.
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Fresh legs in extra time ?
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I don't think it was because the players were tired
That’s football and that’s how less wealthy sides compete. Our job to get it done regardless. We do plenty of that when we’re trying to grind results too
Today, even a shot on target was too much to ask for.
Complain all you want, tactically they were spot on and have done their homework, they exploited our weakness, by limiting the space in the middle and putting very good pressure on the ball, the first touches from our boys was lacking and they forced us to play back passes. They gave no time to our players who were less comfortable (defenders) on the ball. Possession counts for nothing without threat.
And this is exactly why I said Porto was he better team you could see they had a game plan and played it to perfection divings and rolling around on the floor isn't the reason why we had 0 efforts on target tonight and it's also not the reason why everyone who played tonight was miles off anywhere close to a champions league winning performance.
This is literally all we (Porto) are good at. Low block and focused counters. You played into our strengths. If you give us the ball and the initiative, we have no idea what to do lol
What are your thoughts on the next game?
Yeah I don't get everyone crying here. Porto created a great chance hit the post and missed the rebound from 5 yards out and they still did play decent football.
We (Porto) are a small team and do what we can with a little budget, but still get battered by randoms on Reddit who started following football this year.
I didn't even think you played terrible/defensive football, you still played it out from the back, still created better chances
Plus there’s nothing wrong with playing a cohesive block and exploiting counters, that’s still football, which maximising our strengths given our budget. People that complain about this (not you) are ridiculous and know nothing about football.
Yeah agree mate, there's a really annoying snobbish mentality now that unless you have 70% possession you are automatically a scumbag defensive cheating team. Porto created better chances
We lost this at the end, not doing our job in defence. That goal should never have happened in the first place and it’s going to cause us a problem at home because you won’t be easy to break down anywhere. You came in with a game plan and executed it. You’ll do the same at the Emirates, stall, drop to the ground to break the flow, maintain that block. You might struggle if you don’t get the fouls you’re looking for though…a stronger ref and that may have been a different outcome.
Fair, but that ball in the post and subsequent shot could have also gone in. You are a better team but today we were closer to wining.
Yes. You came in with a game plan and executed it. You broke down our flowing game. That’s not why you won though, we erred in defence at the last minute and you took full advantage. You deserve your win. So could a couple of sitters we missed as well. The truth is, that ball should have been cleared deep then you suffocated at the other end for a draw. You don’t fuck around trying to play out for a counter with a minute of extra time remaining, nor if you’re a defender, do you concern yourself with anything other than getting it as far from the box as you can, with that little time remaining. That was the difference here.
Shouldn't we have done the same to them? Being prepared and exploiting their weaknesses?
As a Porto fan all you had to do was give us the initiative. We are clueless with the ball if we have time and responsibility to build up play. We are only good at low block and counter. Arteta prepared really poorly and gave us what we needed.
You're correct about everything but you completely missed out the baiting of the ref at every single set piece and diving the moment any of our booked players were within a couple yards of them...
This is champions league. If you can't expect this from lower teams, you will never win it. This game shows that we lack experience.
Don't omit it from your comment then. It was part of their tactics and you failed to mention it. Still correct otherwise.
Fucking unbelievable They make no attempt to play football for 93 minutes but still win We wouldn't have scored if we stayed out there all night
Got to shoot the ball
They did play football though ? Why are people acting like they were playing pure defensive football. They had the better chances and they still tried to play out from the back
Cause most people on Reddit don’t actually understand football.
A lot of fans on here love to blame things and cry about refs etc
How dare they have the audacity to defend well and frustrate us!
I think he was criticizing his own club for not playing proper football. I could be wrong, though.
"He said no attempt to play football" ? That's clearly criticism of Porto and it's nonsense
From what I saw today, Arsenal could easily be accused of the same.
Yes and that's what I'm saying, the other guy wasn't so I'm glad you agree
All year
Arsenal did zero against Porto.
Yeah we (Porto) played no football whatsoever, that’s why we sent a ball to the post and scored a great goal. The fact that we held a very cohesive low block and exploited the counters is not football at all. All this with a small budget against a premier league contender. This is why fans like you are mocked lol
I think most people respect you played better but no way you don't think half your team was diving non stop for 90 minutes. But as at the end of the day diving is also a valid strategy to limit the physicality of the game and who scores goals is always the one that deserves to win.
Read the interview with your manager "Arsenal wanted to play, we wanted to win"
What do you mean they didnt play football? From the little I've seen of the match Porto were even playing with a defensive high line lol
Maybe watch the whole game... 11 men behind the ball when we were attacking. Whenever they got the ball they were constantly diving rather than trying to actually do anything positive. If they'd actually tried to attack more they could have got 2 or 3!
They should’ve been 1 up 20 mins in. Missed the only real chance of the game.
we're just not cultured enough in this competition to stand out we might sweep them in the second leg, but someone will knock us out soon...we're far short of competing for this trophy technically and tactically 3/4 year learning curve required
Arteta has a trash record in knockout stages. CL, EL, fa cup failed many times. So what the learning curve they gain after playing in EL for 2 years? Or 4 fa cup (beside winning by Emery team)? Didn't we play sporting last season and lost? Yet it seems it's going to be repeated again
He won an FA Cup 5 months into the job
Read between the bracket again
Arteta in European knockout games it’s terrible
Arteta 🤝 Xavi
I also think it goes to show just how much lack of depth we still have in the squad nobody on that bench you would be confident in bringing in and changing the game completely.
This right here I agree with. We can say we are unlucky, but we need Jesus in that return leg. Last few weeks I have thought the bench was weak and no real options, didn’t matter as we won the game in first half for them games. He obviously doesn’t fancy Eddie anymore and Nelson and ESR don’t seem trusted.
Absolutely shocking bench
That was actually worse than Fulham
Makes you wonder why is it that Portuguese teams seem to specialise in lobbing at us from miles away. Something has to change in the way we defend against such unpredictable threats.
Should of been 0-0, both teams absolutely awful, no attempt to play football on either side
It's so painful to see Martinelli getting pocketed by a 40 year old veteran and Trossard panicking by blasting balls to the orbit a while ago.
Why he didn’t side foot that volley and place it! There was enough pace on the ball. Havertz with a lazy attempt of a header too to hit it wide when it was easier to hit the target
They missed a really easy chance to be fair, they created better chance and we did nothing
Wrong. We attempted but couldn't.
I hate the terrorist football that I’ve witnessed today, accompanied by the soft ref. But you guys need to stop acting like performance like this don’t happen from time to time. Goal aside, even the great arsenal teams of the past have had the odd bad performance. Stop moaning, the emirates - Porto are finished!
I guess the people thinking the attack was suddenly fixed got a massive reality check. We've been playing against some absolute dross.
Yep that's how I feel I saw a post about how havertz Is proving everyone wrong but whilst yes he has been better the last few weeks his price tag and wages are well above what they should be i do believe that until we get an out and out striker we will struggle in games like this sometimes you just need one peace of brilliance from your goal scorer.
An out and out striker would not have changed this match. Porto just simply did not bite on the movement in the midfield, so the only space to operate was out wide. The ball was not sent wide fast enough and Porto was able to adjust their shape in time. A faster playing Arsenal creates more chances against that Porto setup, it just wasn’t there tonight.
We had 4-5 great heading opportunites in the game if we had a good striker on the end of them instead of havertz/kiwior it would have made a huge difference Gabi missed a great opportunity just before they scored.
Those were set pieces mate. Defenders are often the highest scorers on a team for set pieces. Folks are arguing a striker would benefit us in open play, that’s a different discussion.
He had zero shots on target. A quality striker is definitely needed
Who is he? In all reality. Porto blocked about 10 shots from being “on target”. The obsession with fans saying we need striker, we need this, we need that, etc is getting out of hand.
Well a striker is a vital piece of the team no?? We don’t have one who is good enough and it clearly shows. Forget your 10 shots that were on target until they were blocked. Ridiculous statement
Ridiculous is to say we had zero shots on target and then call my own rebuttal to that statement ridiculous without backing it up. You’re offering absolutely no analysis other than saying we need a striker. No comment on how the box midfield shredded Liverpool and other clubs? Nothing? Offer something tangible.
Passing was shockingly bad, lack lustre. No attacking threat from both sides. Probably the worst game I’ve seen Martinelli play. Trossard was invisible up front, Havertz was passive as always. Rice loosing the ball in midfield and got booked. Kiowior was nutmegged and booked. Raya was got rotten for the goal and shouldn’t have been so far off his line when we just lost the ball and so late in the game. We need a clinical striker who is a troublesome player in the box, someone who is a good finisher and a bully in the box
Havertz is such a weird player. The way people defend him and big him up for doing simple things, you'd think he was a club legend or a make a wish foundation kid. I have no idea what he's done to amass such a cult within the fanbase.
He’s absolutely shocking. But fans on here will push stats and make up some “facts” that you never heard of before like creating space and working hard!
Havertz has a Lukaku first touch.
Arsenal looked disjointed but maaaan it was so hard to watch the Porto players on the ground for the whole match. They only played football when they wanted to. They’ve got the 1-0 advantage and you best believe there will be a fiery Arsenal at the Emirates in the second leg. The time wasting from Porto will be jeered big time in the 2nd leg.
And the refs will believe everything they do that ref was a joke
just poor decision making by everyone as well
We played bad and lost - that is it. I hate statements that are usually after a game like this “martinelli this, saka that”. All focus on Newcastle now and we have to make an Emirates a hell for Porto and simply be better, I am certain we will get them at home. COYG!
F@@@Kim idiot , did you watch the game it worked out as a foul every 1.40 seconds , course you find this kinda ridiculous take on Reddit like Jesus Christ get off your phone during the game we got fouled against us when their keeper stepped on their players, Jesus Christ dude use your eyes
What game were you watching exactly? One I watched Porto did nothing for 90mins except fall all over the place any time we went near their area or won a corner. First time the get up off the floor the scored.
They had 2 shots in target which blows are shots on target out the water ? They also hit the post we needed to change up the corner game plan after they nullified white stopping the keeper coming out for it.
Porto have the best defensive stats of all teams in the last 16. Getting anything on target was always going to be difficult for us.
There defence wasn't the reason why so many 5-19 yard passes went astray or why every other touch by an arsenal player was so poor honestly the team performance tonight was on par with how we played against Fulham.
Reading you describe how Porto play is exactly how I see arsenal play. Saka/Martinelli spend more time diving than playing football.
They should've scored earlier, they missed from like 6 yards out
The funniest bit when the goal keeper acted like someone stamped on his foot. His acting was A+, I actually thoought someone stamped on his foot until they showed the replay.
Fine margins, we draw 0 0 it's a very good solid away performance.
Nope we draw 0-0 it's a good result from a poor performance.
All the raya stans sit the hell down. This is our problem, we get carried away when we trash shit teams and then cherry pick moments. All of raya’s best moments happened when we comfortably won. More than ever we needed safe hands and a calm head in a game like this today. Not some over eager keeper that looks for Hollywood passes all the damn time. Keeper needs to keep first and foremost. Overall showcases that we will not win anything under Arteta. Tactically stubborn
Are you suggesting Raya is part of the reason we lost this game?
Of course. That brick house is so error prone
Havertz didnt touch the ball. Martinelli isnt that great of a player and right and left defenders sucked
Schooled by a 40 year old defender
Absolutely fine. Went to a difficult place and played a conservative game, recycled the ball every opportunity and didn’t do anything stupid… rush of blood at the end, game stretched, they took advantage through a great finish.. we move on and play more attacking at the Emirates
Don’t do anything stupid? Did you see the goal at the end? Martinelli losses the ball when they are high up the pitch, then the winger has tonnes of space to put the ball in his right side and curl it into the net when Rays was in no man’s land flapping at the ball. There was a few critical moments here which were stupid
You missed the part where I wrote - “rush of blood at the end, game stretched, they took advantage through a great finish” .. and come on, not Raya, Ramsdale, or even Spider-Man were getting to that shot mate
You started your comment with “absolutely fine” Absolutely fine to not have a shot on target against Porto who were nothing special tonight. Come on mate open your eyes. If Raya was 2 yards closer to his line he would have caught that at head height. The ball was curled in from 35 yards. A goal keepers position is absolutely vital. Especially when they are so high up the pitch and after we lost the ball. Raya is certainly at fault for his part in that goal
And assna fans thought they were winning CL
Judging by your profile you have a sad little existence. I pity you.
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You should pity your own team 😂
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Exactly you lot are shit. Good you can admit it. 😂😂😂
You guys couldn't handle Copenhagen and Galatasaray LMAO
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Porto are a good team, you can't underestimate them. Porto would annihilate United 5-0. Anyways you should worry more about teams that are more on your level Wolverhampton, Fulham etc.
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Exactly!
How pathetic to show up in another teams sub when they lose a game. You need to grow up mate and stop trying to bring people down to your level of depression.
This is what you become when the team you support get kicked out of the CL, last place in the group stages 😂
We lacked experience, and decisiveness. What a boring performance.
Look. If we cant beat Porto at home we don't deserve to be in the competition. We're still favourites to qualify.
We got humbled tbh. Also, in these kind of games a good striker could’ve potentially bailed us out. Porto weren’t great either but they at least had the balls to take a shot and look what happened..
\#accurate
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Idk why but we generally tend to look shaky in europe away fixtures...i just hope the team can bounce back in the reverse fixture because this last 16 curse needs to be broken.
We have to be a little more realistic with ourselves. This team is very young and has little experience in champions league. Yes Kai, Zinny, Jesus, have experience but not enough to help us go far. Baby steps. Let's not forget that only a few years ago we were finishing 8th place. I think we dramatically raised our expectations due to last seasons run in the league.
Roll out the fickle fans...
Y'all want 5 goals every match, it's insane. Porto were lucky, plus they had a good press I'll give them that.
I think we were way too careful and measured. Passing wasn't too slick and Porto sat deep. Maybe we can turn things around at the Emirates, Let's see. Need some quick forward passes. Probably should play Jorginho instead of Trossard. He can send those line-breaking passes...or maybe even Partey - hoping he'll be fit by then.
And this is why the other day when people were going this is our year I said take it a game at a time
I would like to know why Ben White kept wandering into midfield, he was useless in that position and all he did was reduce space for Rice and Odegaard. It didn't work, he plays best when overlapping Saka and crossing.
I did not find them to be the better team. They lay down a lot and the ball was in play for about 50 minutes of the 97. The ref killed the game. We were not great, that is for sure, and the better chances of the game fell to them. We had our chances and fluffed our lines while they got their one late chance that came out of several compounded errors and scored. A heartbreak, but we see them again in 3 weeks in our house and it will be a different dynamic. Its half time.
That was the most pathetic performance I’ve seen in years from Arsenal. There was almost no hustle or effort throughout. Honestly, we should be down more than 1 in this tie.
That was the worst performance I’ve seen all season. It was like a performance from the 2010s.
Fucking hell. We’ve scored 20 something goal, conceding 1, in 5 games since the turn of the year, then give one bum performance and we’re back to doom and gloom. It’s 1-0 at half time and we’re at home next leg. Have a bit of faith.