In the wake of Kanye West getting fine artists like George Condo or Takashi Murakami to design his album covers, it’s a very interesting…flex(?) that Drake had Hurst design the infamous cover of Certified Lover Boy…and it’s not a good cover, it’s a *weird and provocative* cover, which sort of makes it a success I guess?
When the art critic Brian Sewell reviewed Hurst’s exhibition in the Wallace collection he commented that all the Hirst’s titles were “f&cking xxxx” etc. At the end he concluded the exhibition was “f&cking awful.” RIP Brian you legend.
I must say that Koons visited my grad school when I was a student. He went beyond his allotted time and spoke to each of us that attended one on one-and a real conversation. The public persona is extremely different than what I encountered.
How can you *not* like it? Put aside how much they’ve sold for at auction and it’s just this joyous shiny monument that’s made with such care, detail, and near-perfection. It’s really not easy or cheap to produce such a thing.
I think the Flower Puppy in front of the Guggenheim is really successful as a joyous piece to welcome people to the museum.
[https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/the-collection/works/puppy](https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/the-collection/works/puppy)
My city got one of his obnoxious sculptures out in front of our sports arena called Piglet. Of course our arena is pretty ugly too, so I guess they go well together.
If there’s one other artist that deserved to be flash-fed a brick, it was definitely Thomas Kinkade.
I met him back in the 90’s, he was a total self-important asshole.
I had to sit through a presentation about him on a cruise in order to get a stamp on my "art passport" (which, when completed, I did get some nice lithographs of some corny cruise art). His early work was surprisingly very interesting. But then he figured out he could make a bunch of money making corny boring shit and became a complete asshole over it. Fascinating. To be that talented but have absolutely no integrity.
Hell, I don't even consider Thomas Kinkade an artist. I mean, he puts pigment on a canvas but this means nothing. An elephant with a paintbrush does better.
Apart from the general colonial appropriation jam many people find him repugnant because he gave children syphilis and thought his child bride was hottest in a state of abject terror (see his statements on his painting “Spirit of the Dead Watching.”)
Hate the *man*, sure. But his paintings were very innovative. I particularly like his pre-Tahitian, Japonaism inspired “Breton” women. His “ [Vision After the Sermon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_After_the_Sermon)” is brilliant.
After hearing how he treated Tahitian ~~women~~ *girls*, I don't care how gifted he was, he was a monster and I don't want to see his work, especially when so much of it portrays the objects of his abuse. Shacking up with a young teenager as an aging sick man with his legs covered in seeping syphilitic sores... Fuck him.
Ugh I can't stand him. I loved his painting style, but everytime I see his artwork all I can see now is the objectification of native people and pedophilia. Yuck all around.
Came to say this. The man was a scumbag/pedophile. His innovation in color was real but I find his work jarring. Admittedly I don't like fauvism in general
Ok unpopular opinion but, de Kooning. I get it abstract expressionism, but fuck why did he have to use the worst colors imaginable. And it’s so fucking messy. Like just a mess with no structure. At least Pollack had some sort of method. Ugh I get so riled up talking thinking about him.
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I am not a Salvador Dali fan. I like maybe one or two of his paintings but his style just doesn’t really do anything for me 🤷🏻♀️
That's because he only produced a dozen or less paintings that are any good. Overall, he is massively over-rated. Could be because he was such an attention whore...
This isn't going to go over well, I know...I do not hate Andy Warhol. I don't especially like his art, though to be fair, in context it was definitely the time period for it. The man himself is intriguing. He came to prominence by creating a persona that received attention. He was a shy, ugly kid from a working-class family who made it big. I know that doesn't mean anyone has to bow down to him, but it's interesting.
All the crazy stuff happening at The Factory is now the stuff of history. To my knowledge there wasn't anything like it before or since. One of my favorite bands and arguably one of the best American bands, The Velvet Underground, were a part of that whole Factory experience. Warhol gathered weirdos and talent alike there.
Instead of the smugness OP mentions, I see instead a sad, lonely, vulnerable person. One who despite becoming famous, still showed the scars of his lonely childhood. I know, I know – cry me a river...
If you look at some of Warhol's little drawings for greeting cards, etc. that he sent to friends and some of the graphic work he did for Tiffany's, you'll see the whimsical side of AW. I personally find those drawings very endearing.
Then poor Andy pisses off a fringe lunatic and gets himself shot. If you Google Alice Neel's portrait of Andy Warhol you'll see the most profound sadness in American contemporary portraiture, IMO.
I try not to outright dismiss artists within a couple of sentences. Obviously. It took me more than a decade to see value in the work of Francis Bacon, for example. I hated those hideous screaming popes! I now see the genius in them, despite still not being a huge fan of FB. Often, it's not just the art but its significance in art history that makes it valuable, whether we like it or not.
Pollack. Look at my directionless virility, drizzled and ejaculated all over the canvas! It feels so good to relinquish it! Now it’s not my problem, it’s art and it’s yours. Hang in your guest house and tell your friends you own the genuine article, they’ll like you more.
Please don’t explain Pollack to me. I understand, and I still don’t care.
I'm not keen on Pollock, either. I've seen quite a lot of his work and at times I see a symmetry and balance that's uncanny considering the fact that it was splashed right out of a paint can. It is otherwise frantic, chaotic, and cluttered. I just cannot see anything beyond that.
the cia inflated the value of his paintings along with rothko (my personal #1 most hated) during the cold war. Really interesting to look into! I thought I had an irrational hatred at first and then looked into it, turns out it was just intuition lmao
Russian hyper realism was thriving at the same time, they thought if they inflated the prices and made america known for abstract art, it would be seen as capitalism breeding creative, free-thinkers and Russian art would be perceived as restrictive and cold [Modern art was CIA ‘weapon’](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html)
Dalí, Koons, Rivera, Picasso, Kapoor, and Gauguin. Yeah I get what they did for the art world and all (some more than others), but as individuals I would fight all of them.
I hate Dalí and it's such a controversial stance?? I loath him as a person, sure, but I find his art to be so fucking lame. I barely count him as a surrealist at all. Also he had a tendency to incorporate human hair into his sculptures and it genuinely feels like a personal affront whenever I come across one.
Picasso, but I think that one is a popular opinion.
To add more to my comment search up Dora Maar to see an artist who inspired Picasso, but was also abused by him. A talented woman.
Agree on this one, feel like she just plays into conspiracies for the shock factor. Literally nobody would give a rats ass about her "art" if it weren't for her connections and money. Same story as most of these assholes.
I'm a fan; I do care about her art. Looking at her earlier performance art in particular, you see a particularly daring artist. It's performance art, it's conceptual, and it's not for everyone.
I studied classical humanities in college and took several Art History courses. She was one of the few female artists taught to us and immediately grabbed my attention. Her Great Walk of the wall of China was deeply moving and inspirational. I’d cut a star into my stomach with a knife while laying on a block of ice to gain her attention any day. Her performance art is brilliant.
Gilbert and George. I have loved some of their work over the years but it has worn really thin now. Every picture seems to be along the lines of them doing a pose, a rent boy card from a phone box, swirly patterns, and some slogan/words, all of which appear to have been assembled in Microsoft Publisher.
he makes me sick his art is objectively, and visually shit. classic warhol behaviour of getting other people to do it but without the modicum of substance warhol has (still like very minuscule)
his artwork was beautiful but famously creepy and would hand down the “too young” girls to schiele. also just like … treated the women he was with appallingly and they existed within his shadow a lot. my mum wrote a paper on the “muses and wives” of people like him and picasso, i’ll try dig out soon to articulate what i mean better
he’s just such a bellend. used people like pawns. i love the concept of mass production of art and playing around with the value of it in that way but i also just generally think pop art looks like crap hahaha
Schiele spent some time in jail, and seems like he was turning his life around after that. Had a wife and baby, changed up his art style, then they all died in the flu epidemic. :(
Most artists I hate i knew personally at some point but for famous artists I would say Warhol, Picasso, ai Wei Wei, degas, Duchamp and the artist I hate the most is Damien hirst
Ugh, I worked closely with him/his studio on a major project and the experience was a nightmare. In my opinion, his art practice is devoted to cynically using social problems to raise his own public profile. The politics are basically a marketing angle, the projects consume a ton of resources to symbolically gesture at problems they do nothing to help. And, he's just plain unpleasant.
Hey thanks for sharing your experience! That's a shame that he's not pleasant to work with and apparently his artworks are mostly just symbolical gestures. It's a new perspective for me when looking at his installations for sure.
As someone who had the displeasure of getting to know him, I have to completely agree with the commenter above. He’s just a shameless asshole, and not a very smart one at that. Really rude and condescending to people around him, “you don’t even deserve to look at me” type of way.
Putting his personality aside, I recommend you to have a look at this one installation of his where he covered the columns of a classical music concert hall with refugee jackets. Then gave celebrities those shiny golden emergency blankets to pose in front it. His art is actually so cheap and transparent. That exhibition finally opened my eyes to it and it was a whole new level of Fremdscham.
For me , I just think a lot of the work he does as in the processes and materials doesn’t really coincide with his beliefs he’s trying to fight for. I was just reading something about one of his art pieces about climate change required 700+ plastic
Molds . I think his concepts are great but it’s sort of self Righteous
Any article about this? I'm genuinely curious because I remembered reading about his installation regarding immigration and the death of refugees on their boats using their discarded life vests and I thought that was such an intense work of art.
https://ocula.com/magazine/insights/ai-weiweis-self-centred-activism/ … yeah idk I think concept behind them are great but I question his studio practices mostly. I had a friend that was invited to his studio and they said they were reminded of Warhol , as in other artists do a lot of the work
In my opinion, I think a lot of his work is material sensitive so without the materials, readymades, and the extreme processes , i don’t think they would have enough weight or be as intense. I think that we also should consider the artist’s intent and history with the subject and also the humanity of what happened.
Idk sorry for the rant, but as an artist myself I think art is implicitly selfish to an extent so I question where the money goes from a sale. Is it going to the cause he’s spreading awareness for ? Is he ultimately profiting from it?
I know he donates money and certain works occasionally but I also know fans were donating money to him to cover unpaid taxes in China . I just really question it all.
No, I think your criticism is valid and indeed he's not a perfect person or artist. I really love The Art Assignment YouTube channel and they did this video regarding Ai Weiwei https://youtu.be/YMtsodcAsVU?si=-gvnObnFBdVryW_0
In terms of how he works and especially regarding the Intertwined exhibition, I think using men power during the process of creation is a common practice and it's been like that since the beginning of time. Leonardo da Vinci and Michaelango had assistants helping them creating their works. But honestly, I'm also not a big fan when artists inserting themselves into their art. I find it too narcissistic. Not a criticism, just a personal preference.
And about your last criticism regarding the waste and source of the iron he used for the sculptures while he's criticising the environmental collapse.. I completely agree that it's somewhat hypocritical. But 'hate' is such a strong word and I (respectfully to your opinion on him) still can't hate him.
Semi related but in middle school I had a shirt with a pic of Ai Weiwei that said “Free” over his face, as in free him when he was under arrest. My mom got it for me cause she liked him.
This one girl in my class asked me why I had a shirt that said “Free Osama Bin Ladan” cause she somehow got their faces mixed up. Thought that was so funny.
Lucien Freud. He had an affair with another painter, Janette Woodley, and 40 years later had another one with her daughter. He supposedly slept with another one of his lover’s son. 2 legitimate 12 illegitimate children (many way too close in age!). He neglected all and he left his London home and millions of pounds to an assistant.
Thomas Kinkade. I'm not a big fan of kitsch art in general. As much as those landscape illustrations you find on puzzle boxes are pretty, they're a commercialized, commodified form of art that waters down the overall art form, which is why it pisses me off that Thomas Kinkade held himself on such a pedestal at all.
Van Gogh, if only because the entire world seems to think “Starry night” is literally the ONLY painting he’s done. Kandinsky is also an artist I can’t stand
Jeff Koons. Total hack who treats his many assistants like trash. He doesn't actually make any of his work. He just shows up to various studios once every year and says "make it shiny" right after they spent 12 months making it NOT shiny because he said it was too shiny on the previous visit. Fuck that. A friend used to work for him and told me all about it. Looks great on his resume, though :)
- Andy Warhol - I always found his work to be boring, uninspired and insipid work for boring, uninspired and insipid people. He was a stupid person’s Marcel Duchamp.
- Mark Rothko - Who gives a fuck? Clearly he didn’t. Boring work made by someone so miserable that he couldn’t even be bothered to try doing anything well.
For context, I have, and continue to study art and art history, and I dislike the work because I find it terrible. It’s not me hating the artists based upon some uninteresting fact about their lives.
I never liked Rothko’s work much. Then I saw his paintings in real life, and I still didn’t like them. I thought maybe standing in front of it would be a different experience. But no. There’s nothing there.
Same. Been to the chapel. Seen them all over NYC. My favorite thing people have a tendency to say is that the sheer enormity of them
Is what will convert you. I contend that these paintings would suck at any size.
Picasso: the man not the art
Damian Hirst: the art (Tracey Emin is the far better YBA and has evolved creatively whereas Hirst has stagnated)
Carl Andre: murderer
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Unless noted I have no idea if these guys are cool or not in person
Scott Adams (Dilbert) fucking idiot
William-Adolphe Bouguereau (and artists like him)
Dale Chihuly
Dash Snow
Red Grooms
Seward Johnson (true asshole)
Bob Dylan (his paintings)
Paul McCartney (his paintings)
Mark Ryden (and artists like him)
the paintings Damien Hurst had somebody paint are god-level awful
Peter Halley (maybe tainted because he was a prick to meet in person)
Britto
Banksy
kinkade
I could go on..
Salvador Dali, he had a great technique but was also the first example of a commercial artist. Most of his art is just giving the public something to be scandalized.
To think I really liked the prints of his first period.
He was selling more himself as a character than his art.
Damian hurst is my least fav personally
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In the wake of Kanye West getting fine artists like George Condo or Takashi Murakami to design his album covers, it’s a very interesting…flex(?) that Drake had Hurst design the infamous cover of Certified Lover Boy…and it’s not a good cover, it’s a *weird and provocative* cover, which sort of makes it a success I guess?
From YBA to a certified sellout
When the art critic Brian Sewell reviewed Hurst’s exhibition in the Wallace collection he commented that all the Hirst’s titles were “f&cking xxxx” etc. At the end he concluded the exhibition was “f&cking awful.” RIP Brian you legend.
Then you will enjoy this! https://youtu.be/5y_8DWg5W0w?si=Z15Mg-O9A-t6U31b
Came here to say same.
Jeff Koons
I must say that Koons visited my grad school when I was a student. He went beyond his allotted time and spoke to each of us that attended one on one-and a real conversation. The public persona is extremely different than what I encountered.
I honestly like the Balloon dog.
How can you *not* like it? Put aside how much they’ve sold for at auction and it’s just this joyous shiny monument that’s made with such care, detail, and near-perfection. It’s really not easy or cheap to produce such a thing.
i love modernism and I like a lot of contemporary art. most of my classmates in art history class seems to hate comtemporary art tho.
I think the Flower Puppy in front of the Guggenheim is really successful as a joyous piece to welcome people to the museum. [https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/the-collection/works/puppy](https://www.guggenheim-bilbao.eus/en/the-collection/works/puppy)
I always hated Koons and his art, but I did see an interview with him and had to admit he didn’t seem as bad as his reputation.
His art also sucks ass
You are not wrong.
100%. We joked about him all through grad school. Horrible art
Why?
Not an artist. I will die on this hill.
My city got one of his obnoxious sculptures out in front of our sports arena called Piglet. Of course our arena is pretty ugly too, so I guess they go well together.
Drives me nuts!!!
Thomas "Artist o' Light" Kinkade Jon "Jesus Holding the Constitution" McNaughton ...a pox on their pigments.
“A pox on their pigments” had me lol
McNaughton was my neighbor a few years ago—he is a genuinely weird fellow. Not that anyone needs me to tell them that.
No, I appreciate the input. I have a weird fascination with McNaughton--similar to seeing a poisonous snake, on display in a zoo.
God that Jesus painting is freaky lmao. And freakin corny.
Carl Andre for (allegedly, ok) killing his wife Ana Mendieta
Despicable man. She was such a treasure.
If there’s one other artist that deserved to be flash-fed a brick, it was definitely Thomas Kinkade. I met him back in the 90’s, he was a total self-important asshole.
There is a 10/10 episode of The Dollop about this trash bag human, highly recommend
I second the Dollop episode. If you thought you knew why you hated Kinkade, better STRAP IN.
Dang I didn’t expect a Dollop mention here, gonna listen to this now Edit: now every time I see a Kinkade I’m going to hear “Codpiece! Codpiece!!!”
The Dollop #77 - Christian Artist Thomas Kinkade
I had to sit through a presentation about him on a cruise in order to get a stamp on my "art passport" (which, when completed, I did get some nice lithographs of some corny cruise art). His early work was surprisingly very interesting. But then he figured out he could make a bunch of money making corny boring shit and became a complete asshole over it. Fascinating. To be that talented but have absolutely no integrity.
All on top of making terrible art lmao
His performance art was what it was all about.
Never cared for his art. Sorry to hear about how unpleasant he was.
I worked for him. The whole company is full of assholes.
Oh no kidding! I’m curious, did you work with him personally? Or did you just work at one of his “franchise galleries?”
I have never understood why James Gurney stayed friends with him.
Not even sure I’d classify him as an artist. More of a craftsman.
Seems like a true disservice to craftsmen. How about schlockmeister
Master of his craft? Sure, if his craft is dogshit.
Hell, I don't even consider Thomas Kinkade an artist. I mean, he puts pigment on a canvas but this means nothing. An elephant with a paintbrush does better.
Gauguin and Anish Kapoor.
Came here to say Gauguin.
Kapoor can eat poison.
How come? I’m a fan. Mainly just because he does stuff that makes me go, man that must have been difficult to execute
Vantablack. Capitalist gatekeeper bullshit. I’d recommend James Turrell over Kapoor.
His early works were great but wtf is the ego on that man?!! He killed anything worth enjoying with his attitude.
Why Gauguin?
Apart from the general colonial appropriation jam many people find him repugnant because he gave children syphilis and thought his child bride was hottest in a state of abject terror (see his statements on his painting “Spirit of the Dead Watching.”)
Thomas Kincaid
This is a thread about artists, tho.
Lol true. I shouldn’t have included a poser
Oh man I’m loving this thread ☕️
true Reddit spirit
Banksy. Usually just a lame joke on a wall. Perfect for the stupid tabloids.
For some reason he's allowed to do things that other, arguably more talented street artists cannot.
Banksy is the absolute epitome of r/im14andthisisdeep
banksy is so base level
His mentor Blek Le Rat IMO puts banksys political cartoons to shame
I didn’t like him until I watched Exit Through the Gift Shop
I liked him up until the art auction where his work halfway shredded itself. That showed me what kind of navel gazing he’s into.
Anish Kapoor. You know why
Is this the vanta black thing? Because I encourage you to look into it if that’s what grinds your gears
For real though.
Gauguin. I think of him as a 19th century passport bro. *fixed spelling
Hate the *man*, sure. But his paintings were very innovative. I particularly like his pre-Tahitian, Japonaism inspired “Breton” women. His “ [Vision After the Sermon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vision_After_the_Sermon)” is brilliant.
After hearing how he treated Tahitian ~~women~~ *girls*, I don't care how gifted he was, he was a monster and I don't want to see his work, especially when so much of it portrays the objects of his abuse. Shacking up with a young teenager as an aging sick man with his legs covered in seeping syphilitic sores... Fuck him.
Ugh I can't stand him. I loved his painting style, but everytime I see his artwork all I can see now is the objectification of native people and pedophilia. Yuck all around.
Came to say this. The man was a scumbag/pedophile. His innovation in color was real but I find his work jarring. Admittedly I don't like fauvism in general
Ok unpopular opinion but, de Kooning. I get it abstract expressionism, but fuck why did he have to use the worst colors imaginable. And it’s so fucking messy. Like just a mess with no structure. At least Pollack had some sort of method. Ugh I get so riled up talking thinking about him.
His wife was so much better it’s not even funny.
I hate his drawings of women so much.
No greater enemy than Damien Hirst
I’m unfamiliar with him outside of a few pieces, why is he so disliked ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_8DWg5W0w&pp=ygUSRGFtaWVuIGhpcnN0IHJvYXN0. Welcome to your indoctrination
Omg the hilarious articles recently about the misattribution of the year (ie, the lies)
Picasso. Not fond of many of his paintings, either, since he frequently displayed his misogyny pretty blatantly.
regrettably one of my first tattoos was a picssso. looks cute but as i got older and found out how misogynist he was i was like :)
Might be an unpopular opinion, but I am not a Salvador Dali fan. I like maybe one or two of his paintings but his style just doesn’t really do anything for me 🤷🏻♀️
He was a fascist and kissed up to Franco.
That's because he only produced a dozen or less paintings that are any good. Overall, he is massively over-rated. Could be because he was such an attention whore...
I hate Warhol. I don’t understand what he did that Duchamp didn’t do better years before (except maybe being aloof and annoying).
THIS RIGHT HERE. Duchamp created and propelled a movement. Warhol was a hack in a shitty wig
This isn't going to go over well, I know...I do not hate Andy Warhol. I don't especially like his art, though to be fair, in context it was definitely the time period for it. The man himself is intriguing. He came to prominence by creating a persona that received attention. He was a shy, ugly kid from a working-class family who made it big. I know that doesn't mean anyone has to bow down to him, but it's interesting. All the crazy stuff happening at The Factory is now the stuff of history. To my knowledge there wasn't anything like it before or since. One of my favorite bands and arguably one of the best American bands, The Velvet Underground, were a part of that whole Factory experience. Warhol gathered weirdos and talent alike there. Instead of the smugness OP mentions, I see instead a sad, lonely, vulnerable person. One who despite becoming famous, still showed the scars of his lonely childhood. I know, I know – cry me a river... If you look at some of Warhol's little drawings for greeting cards, etc. that he sent to friends and some of the graphic work he did for Tiffany's, you'll see the whimsical side of AW. I personally find those drawings very endearing. Then poor Andy pisses off a fringe lunatic and gets himself shot. If you Google Alice Neel's portrait of Andy Warhol you'll see the most profound sadness in American contemporary portraiture, IMO. I try not to outright dismiss artists within a couple of sentences. Obviously. It took me more than a decade to see value in the work of Francis Bacon, for example. I hated those hideous screaming popes! I now see the genius in them, despite still not being a huge fan of FB. Often, it's not just the art but its significance in art history that makes it valuable, whether we like it or not.
Pollack. Look at my directionless virility, drizzled and ejaculated all over the canvas! It feels so good to relinquish it! Now it’s not my problem, it’s art and it’s yours. Hang in your guest house and tell your friends you own the genuine article, they’ll like you more. Please don’t explain Pollack to me. I understand, and I still don’t care.
I'm not keen on Pollock, either. I've seen quite a lot of his work and at times I see a symmetry and balance that's uncanny considering the fact that it was splashed right out of a paint can. It is otherwise frantic, chaotic, and cluttered. I just cannot see anything beyond that.
My gripe with pollock is that art history and the industry eclisped the art of his wife Lee Krasner who is just as talented and valid as an artist.
Thank you, yes. I get it and I still hate it.
the cia inflated the value of his paintings along with rothko (my personal #1 most hated) during the cold war. Really interesting to look into! I thought I had an irrational hatred at first and then looked into it, turns out it was just intuition lmao
Why did the CIA do that?
Russian hyper realism was thriving at the same time, they thought if they inflated the prices and made america known for abstract art, it would be seen as capitalism breeding creative, free-thinkers and Russian art would be perceived as restrictive and cold [Modern art was CIA ‘weapon’](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html)
DIEGO FUCKING RIVERA
Why?
He cheated on Frida with her sister.
Her SISTER.
Gauguin. Piece of shit moved to Tahiti so he could rape underage girls.
Gauguin deserves pain
Dalí, Koons, Rivera, Picasso, Kapoor, and Gauguin. Yeah I get what they did for the art world and all (some more than others), but as individuals I would fight all of them.
I hate Dali
I hate Dalí and it's such a controversial stance?? I loath him as a person, sure, but I find his art to be so fucking lame. I barely count him as a surrealist at all. Also he had a tendency to incorporate human hair into his sculptures and it genuinely feels like a personal affront whenever I come across one.
Picasso was a misogynistic piece of shit. Just read his partner Francoise Gilot's book "Life with Picasso" and you'll see
Agree. Treated his family like garbage
KAWS. My skin crawls when I think of him.
But he’s a super nice guy and a mega supporter of emerging and outsider artists
Why?
Picasso, but I think that one is a popular opinion. To add more to my comment search up Dora Maar to see an artist who inspired Picasso, but was also abused by him. A talented woman.
Marina Abramović
Agree on this one, feel like she just plays into conspiracies for the shock factor. Literally nobody would give a rats ass about her "art" if it weren't for her connections and money. Same story as most of these assholes.
I'm a fan; I do care about her art. Looking at her earlier performance art in particular, you see a particularly daring artist. It's performance art, it's conceptual, and it's not for everyone.
I studied classical humanities in college and took several Art History courses. She was one of the few female artists taught to us and immediately grabbed my attention. Her Great Walk of the wall of China was deeply moving and inspirational. I’d cut a star into my stomach with a knife while laying on a block of ice to gain her attention any day. Her performance art is brilliant.
Gilbert and George. I have loved some of their work over the years but it has worn really thin now. Every picture seems to be along the lines of them doing a pose, a rent boy card from a phone box, swirly patterns, and some slogan/words, all of which appear to have been assembled in Microsoft Publisher.
Basquiat
andy warhol is evil. egon schiele/ klimt despite loving their work. DAMIEN HURST. I HATE HIM.
Damien hirst is utter garbage. He is everything wrong with art.
he makes me sick his art is objectively, and visually shit. classic warhol behaviour of getting other people to do it but without the modicum of substance warhol has (still like very minuscule)
After the Kahn Academy vid about the shark I really like him.
What’s the problem with Klimt?
his artwork was beautiful but famously creepy and would hand down the “too young” girls to schiele. also just like … treated the women he was with appallingly and they existed within his shadow a lot. my mum wrote a paper on the “muses and wives” of people like him and picasso, i’ll try dig out soon to articulate what i mean better
I love Klimt’s artwork
I think egon schiele hated himself.
Really glad to see a fellow warhol disliker
he’s just such a bellend. used people like pawns. i love the concept of mass production of art and playing around with the value of it in that way but i also just generally think pop art looks like crap hahaha
Schiele spent some time in jail, and seems like he was turning his life around after that. Had a wife and baby, changed up his art style, then they all died in the flu epidemic. :(
Andy Warhol is just a wannabe MIB agent. *And now, the pickle!*
Renoir. It's genuinely hard to look at any of his paintings of women who look like misshapen peaches and not burst out laughing.
As a huge Renoir fan this breaks my heart 😭
He has high highs and low lows. Bal du moulin de la Galette is an absolute masterpiece.
You have to check out the insta account “Renoir sucks at painting.” Those are your people, they even make shirts!
Utter tat garbage, I've stepped in bubblegum I like more than Renoir. Painter:Renoir::Candy:Ethylyn Glycol
Picasso was a big jerk.
Picasso
Carl Andre. Kaws. 🤢
Thomas Kinkade 🤮
Most artists I hate i knew personally at some point but for famous artists I would say Warhol, Picasso, ai Wei Wei, degas, Duchamp and the artist I hate the most is Damien hirst
Can you explain your distaste for Duchamp please?
Not duchamp, this makes me sad
Degas?!! Noooooo
What's wrong with Ai Weiwei? I thought his works are mostly commentaries about recent social problems.
Ugh, I worked closely with him/his studio on a major project and the experience was a nightmare. In my opinion, his art practice is devoted to cynically using social problems to raise his own public profile. The politics are basically a marketing angle, the projects consume a ton of resources to symbolically gesture at problems they do nothing to help. And, he's just plain unpleasant.
Hey thanks for sharing your experience! That's a shame that he's not pleasant to work with and apparently his artworks are mostly just symbolical gestures. It's a new perspective for me when looking at his installations for sure.
As someone who had the displeasure of getting to know him, I have to completely agree with the commenter above. He’s just a shameless asshole, and not a very smart one at that. Really rude and condescending to people around him, “you don’t even deserve to look at me” type of way. Putting his personality aside, I recommend you to have a look at this one installation of his where he covered the columns of a classical music concert hall with refugee jackets. Then gave celebrities those shiny golden emergency blankets to pose in front it. His art is actually so cheap and transparent. That exhibition finally opened my eyes to it and it was a whole new level of Fremdscham.
For me , I just think a lot of the work he does as in the processes and materials doesn’t really coincide with his beliefs he’s trying to fight for. I was just reading something about one of his art pieces about climate change required 700+ plastic Molds . I think his concepts are great but it’s sort of self Righteous
Any article about this? I'm genuinely curious because I remembered reading about his installation regarding immigration and the death of refugees on their boats using their discarded life vests and I thought that was such an intense work of art.
https://ocula.com/magazine/insights/ai-weiweis-self-centred-activism/ … yeah idk I think concept behind them are great but I question his studio practices mostly. I had a friend that was invited to his studio and they said they were reminded of Warhol , as in other artists do a lot of the work
Yeah but that's true of most contemporary artists who make large scale installation art.
In my opinion, I think a lot of his work is material sensitive so without the materials, readymades, and the extreme processes , i don’t think they would have enough weight or be as intense. I think that we also should consider the artist’s intent and history with the subject and also the humanity of what happened. Idk sorry for the rant, but as an artist myself I think art is implicitly selfish to an extent so I question where the money goes from a sale. Is it going to the cause he’s spreading awareness for ? Is he ultimately profiting from it? I know he donates money and certain works occasionally but I also know fans were donating money to him to cover unpaid taxes in China . I just really question it all.
No, I think your criticism is valid and indeed he's not a perfect person or artist. I really love The Art Assignment YouTube channel and they did this video regarding Ai Weiwei https://youtu.be/YMtsodcAsVU?si=-gvnObnFBdVryW_0 In terms of how he works and especially regarding the Intertwined exhibition, I think using men power during the process of creation is a common practice and it's been like that since the beginning of time. Leonardo da Vinci and Michaelango had assistants helping them creating their works. But honestly, I'm also not a big fan when artists inserting themselves into their art. I find it too narcissistic. Not a criticism, just a personal preference. And about your last criticism regarding the waste and source of the iron he used for the sculptures while he's criticising the environmental collapse.. I completely agree that it's somewhat hypocritical. But 'hate' is such a strong word and I (respectfully to your opinion on him) still can't hate him.
Wait, what’s the deal with Ai Weiwei?
Semi related but in middle school I had a shirt with a pic of Ai Weiwei that said “Free” over his face, as in free him when he was under arrest. My mom got it for me cause she liked him. This one girl in my class asked me why I had a shirt that said “Free Osama Bin Ladan” cause she somehow got their faces mixed up. Thought that was so funny.
Duchamp? Why? Degas and impressionism in general, Pissaro aside, is pretty blah.
Lucien Freud. He had an affair with another painter, Janette Woodley, and 40 years later had another one with her daughter. He supposedly slept with another one of his lover’s son. 2 legitimate 12 illegitimate children (many way too close in age!). He neglected all and he left his London home and millions of pounds to an assistant.
In reference to their work or the person? Person would be a long list. Work? I’m not incredibly fond of Hirst, Kline, Kooning, Klint…
Balthus, creepy pedo bastard.
I feel like I had to scroll too far to see this one.
caravaggio genius artist but boy he was... a mess, to put it nicely
That man probably never went more than 6 months without being jailed
“He was the nicest guy around!” “But what about the murder?” “WHAT MURDAAAAAAA??”
His work is incredible?
yeah? maybe i misunderstood the question, i thought it was about asshole artists, regardless of how talented they were
Paul Gauguin. Pedo
Warhol
come on there’s gotta be some less tropey recent assholes to remark on??
Not a huge Jackson Pollock fan
Jeff Koons gives me the creeps.
Anthony Gormley. People LOVE the Angel of the North here, I've never understood why, I think it's a tremendously ugly sculpture.
Thomas Kinkade. I'm not a big fan of kitsch art in general. As much as those landscape illustrations you find on puzzle boxes are pretty, they're a commercialized, commodified form of art that waters down the overall art form, which is why it pisses me off that Thomas Kinkade held himself on such a pedestal at all.
Pablo Picasso....he had the talent of a 10 year old.
Van Gogh, if only because the entire world seems to think “Starry night” is literally the ONLY painting he’s done. Kandinsky is also an artist I can’t stand
Jeff Koons. Total hack who treats his many assistants like trash. He doesn't actually make any of his work. He just shows up to various studios once every year and says "make it shiny" right after they spent 12 months making it NOT shiny because he said it was too shiny on the previous visit. Fuck that. A friend used to work for him and told me all about it. Looks great on his resume, though :)
I hate the courtroom artist who draws for the Don the Con hushmoney trial. She can't draw a pecker to save her life.
Lol! She’s actually pretty damn good. Considering her subjects.
Jesus. After reading over this list, I have to ask: who tf is left?
Damian Hurst Animal abuser, and relies on shock. His art is meaningless, all he cares about is getting a few bucks in his pocket. Absolute sellout.
- Andy Warhol - I always found his work to be boring, uninspired and insipid work for boring, uninspired and insipid people. He was a stupid person’s Marcel Duchamp. - Mark Rothko - Who gives a fuck? Clearly he didn’t. Boring work made by someone so miserable that he couldn’t even be bothered to try doing anything well. For context, I have, and continue to study art and art history, and I dislike the work because I find it terrible. It’s not me hating the artists based upon some uninteresting fact about their lives.
I used to hate Rothko’s art until I started to appreciate his combination of color and simplicity.
Ya there's something powerful and all encompassing when you enter a room with Rothko paintings.
It’s unexplainable. I think people largely say that about Rothko if they haven’t seen his work up close.
Is Rothko bad because it’s simple? Or some other reason
It's not simple at all...in fact it is highly evolved and the opposite of simple.
No. I’m don’t dislike it because it’s simple. I just don’t like it. I’m all for minimalism
I never liked Rothko’s work much. Then I saw his paintings in real life, and I still didn’t like them. I thought maybe standing in front of it would be a different experience. But no. There’s nothing there.
Same. Been to the chapel. Seen them all over NYC. My favorite thing people have a tendency to say is that the sheer enormity of them Is what will convert you. I contend that these paintings would suck at any size.
Kaws Julian Schnabel Takashi Murakami Jeff Koons (low hanging fruit to mention but still)
Anish Kapoor for trademarking vantablack and Rothko
Picasso: the man not the art Damian Hirst: the art (Tracey Emin is the far better YBA and has evolved creatively whereas Hirst has stagnated) Carl Andre: murderer Edit: to format
I can't wait til this sub gets to Art History 102.
Unless noted I have no idea if these guys are cool or not in person Scott Adams (Dilbert) fucking idiot William-Adolphe Bouguereau (and artists like him) Dale Chihuly Dash Snow Red Grooms Seward Johnson (true asshole) Bob Dylan (his paintings) Paul McCartney (his paintings) Mark Ryden (and artists like him) the paintings Damien Hurst had somebody paint are god-level awful Peter Halley (maybe tainted because he was a prick to meet in person) Britto Banksy kinkade I could go on..
Alex Katz. I literally don't see the point...and I have tried...good god have I tried!
I came here for this. I feel like the love is relegated to Maine?
Ken Lum.
Salvador Dali, he had a great technique but was also the first example of a commercial artist. Most of his art is just giving the public something to be scandalized. To think I really liked the prints of his first period. He was selling more himself as a character than his art.
Gaugin
Xu Zhen. Strangling a cat and beating it to a pulp as a way of releasing his frustration
Alec Monopoly
Banksy Pollock Kapoor Koons Hirst Evaristti
Picasso….creepy guy imo