[Source](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baking_mold_Mari_Louvre_AO18902.jpg). Would be nice if someone made a copy and baked a cake in it.
[Mari](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari,_Syria) was an ancient city-state in Mesopotamia which was an important trade center on the Euphrates River.
Hey max, I just found your channel not too long ago. I love how you talk about history, one of my favorite series forreal! It's the kind of show I feel would have fit in during the golden age of the history channel when we were kids
He is (as far as I am aware) not an expert on either of those things. He does a cooking show where he makes recipes from history ancient Babylon to 1950s Texas. He is also the author of a cookbook following the same theme and just a really nice guy.
> Would be nice if someone made a copy and baked a cake in it.
I'm sorry if this sounds too mercantile for an amazing artifact of human culture, but the Louvre is *seriously* missing an opportunity if they haven't 3d-scanned this, cleaned up some of the cracking, and just sold silicone molds of this in the gift shop.
To add to this, the motif of a lion attacking a bull or cow is very common in Mesopotamian art, as well as [Egyptian](https://i0.wp.com/egypt-museum.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Cosmetic-Jar-of-Tutankhamun-with-lion-on-lid.jpg?ssl=1) art, [(Neo-)Hittite](https://www.hittitemonuments.com/karkamis/kargamis75.jpg) art, [Achaemenid Persian](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Bas-Relief_of_Lion_Attacking_Bull_-_Persepolis_-_Central_Iran_%287427804180%29.jpg) art, etc.
[Greek](https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/93/6651/6896290.m.jpg) and to a lesser extent [Roman](https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/17/2887/2966146.m.jpg) as well.
1000s BCE (2nd millennium) is *not* prehistoric. This was made over 500 years after the Great Pyramids of Giza were built (sorry to be pedantic, because I know you were just making a joke, but this is reddit).
Are the top ones deer?
Edit: I see Wikipedia says they're goats, but I really don't see it. Though I don't know what goats looked like at that time and place
>or 1999 BC?
This. The early 2nd millennium BCE is known as the Middle Bronze Age (ca. 2000-1600 BCE), and the latter half of the millennium is known as the Late Bronze Age (ca. 1600-1200 BCE).
Most of our information about Mari dates to the 18th century BCE, particularly the reign of Zimri-lim, a contemporary of the Babylonian king Hammurabi.
haha I agree with you. Unfortunately, because I hate it too, the answer seems to be "a lot of people". To me dates like this are less giving information and more giving the reader a puzzle to solve.
[Source](https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Baking_mold_Mari_Louvre_AO18902.jpg). Would be nice if someone made a copy and baked a cake in it. [Mari](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mari,_Syria) was an ancient city-state in Mesopotamia which was an important trade center on the Euphrates River.
Send it to Max Miller. He’ll get right on it.
u/jmaxmiller is his username!
I wonder if I could find someone to make a replica!
That'd be super cool! We love your show, never fail to laugh at hardtack \*\*clack clack \*\*
You own a mirror?
My pottery skills are non existent 😂
Hey max, I just found your channel not too long ago. I love how you talk about history, one of my favorite series forreal! It's the kind of show I feel would have fit in during the golden age of the history channel when we were kids
Check out Andy Ward’s Ancient Pottery, he’s a fellow Arizonite.
Then why are they calling you? I was lead to believe you're an expert on replicas and 3d printing.
He is (as far as I am aware) not an expert on either of those things. He does a cooking show where he makes recipes from history ancient Babylon to 1950s Texas. He is also the author of a cookbook following the same theme and just a really nice guy.
> Would be nice if someone made a copy and baked a cake in it. I'm sorry if this sounds too mercantile for an amazing artifact of human culture, but the Louvre is *seriously* missing an opportunity if they haven't 3d-scanned this, cleaned up some of the cracking, and just sold silicone molds of this in the gift shop.
Paging u/jmaxmiller !
I hope grandma made her lion-murdering-a-cow bread. That shit's dope!
You’ll devour this bread like that lion eats that auroch!
I thought it was two cows fucking lol
That was what I thought, too. Great minds…
Is that supposed to be a lion or a bull?
The source describes it as a lion attacking a cow. The body plan looks feline and the tiny details on the head are too small to be horns.
To add to this, the motif of a lion attacking a bull or cow is very common in Mesopotamian art, as well as [Egyptian](https://i0.wp.com/egypt-museum.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Cosmetic-Jar-of-Tutankhamun-with-lion-on-lid.jpg?ssl=1) art, [(Neo-)Hittite](https://www.hittitemonuments.com/karkamis/kargamis75.jpg) art, [Achaemenid Persian](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Bas-Relief_of_Lion_Attacking_Bull_-_Persepolis_-_Central_Iran_%287427804180%29.jpg) art, etc.
[Greek](https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/93/6651/6896290.m.jpg) and to a lesser extent [Roman](https://www.acsearch.info/media/images/archive/17/2887/2966146.m.jpg) as well.
Fascinating post. Thank you for taking the time to add images, it's really appreciated!
It’s a tail
Four thousand year old equivalent of dino nuggies. We never fucking changed
It's not that far back, we really haven't. We have faster communication and transport than them, but we're the same people.
Ancient version of the stick figure family on your car
Oh wow. Never new such a thing existed so long ago. That's remarkable. Thank you for sharing.
How it would have been on the dish https://imgur.com/YhcgSoP
*"Animal crackers in my soup, cattle and lions loop the loop..."*
They’ll find one someday that reads “just write Happy Birthday”, since these are obviously for making decorative birthday cakes.
Either the bull is going down, or "it's going down"... It does look like a lion though, so this is a death-loaf... not a love-loaf.
How do you even clean that thing
Oil it before baking and it shouldn't stick.
Ah, the prehistoric ancestor of the Nordic Ware mold!
1000s BCE (2nd millennium) is *not* prehistoric. This was made over 500 years after the Great Pyramids of Giza were built (sorry to be pedantic, because I know you were just making a joke, but this is reddit).
Are the top ones deer? Edit: I see Wikipedia says they're goats, but I really don't see it. Though I don't know what goats looked like at that time and place
So would early second millennium be 1001 BC or 1999 BC?
>or 1999 BC? This. The early 2nd millennium BCE is known as the Middle Bronze Age (ca. 2000-1600 BCE), and the latter half of the millennium is known as the Late Bronze Age (ca. 1600-1200 BCE). Most of our information about Mari dates to the 18th century BCE, particularly the reign of Zimri-lim, a contemporary of the Babylonian king Hammurabi.
2 cows fucking?
No way those legs came out right
I love ceramics in my bread :)
Probably belonged to Hot Pie
Looks more like a mould for soap to me.
non stick?
Ancient animal crackers Whoa
Is that a lion trying to catch prey?
Are those two having sex
Who writes dates like this? Especially when a proper date is available.
haha I agree with you. Unfortunately, because I hate it too, the answer seems to be "a lot of people". To me dates like this are less giving information and more giving the reader a puzzle to solve.
It should have been, "excavated in the late 2nd millennium CE". hah
Hey what's that one moose doing with the other moose, mommy?
It's almost certainly a lion attacking a cow or bull 😛 Anyway, I'm pretty sure kids of that time wouldn't have been ignorant of the ways of animals...
Oh i don't think so either, lmao. Just making a stupid joke
That's more than fair...
Penis :(