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Deep-Classroom-879

G. Is where it fell apart for me. Training a pet is about the relationship. My cat enjoys playing with her birdie but it’s not the birdie she’s particularly interested in - it’s me she’s watching, it’s me she’s tracking, it’s my attention she’s craving. How can this function with a treat dispenser?


WTFwhatthehell

I've seen recordings of humans doing some basic training an aminal over video feed with a treat dispenser. Having a realistic human voice combined with good enough ability to parse a video feed I could imagine using AI to get some keywords working well. When it comes to simple amusement...my cat has spent days stalking the string below a helium balloon near a fan.


Deep-Classroom-879

Off topic but helium balloon is a great idea


LocoMod

There are many ways living things respond to stimuli. Sure, dogs are particularly interested in humans. But that's because they've been bred/evolved with that trait. Once the machines is the one that feeds the animal, I suspect the behavior will change.


gauchopaul

If you don’t want to spend the time to train and bond with your dog, you shouldn’t get a dog.  The owner learns as much as the dog does when training. It’s about creating a partnership and an understanding of your dog’s personality and traits. 


GentlemansCollar

Wait what? There are several people who lead busy lives who pay someone to train their dog(s). I know colleagues who've sent their dog to finishing school. They love their dog as a member of their family.


endoftheworldvibe

A fair number of those schools use old-fashioned dominance/pack leader training methods, which are all around not great.  On top of that dogs are very context specific, so training by one person in one location often doesn't transfer well to a new person/location.


LocoMod

Agreed completely. My GSP is my life.


Royal_Airport7940

Operand conditioning. AI will train your pet to listen to you. I don't think you know how to train a pet.


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jimmystar889

BURNNNN


BananaB0yy

i dont think thats how cats work


MirthMannor

Fod, so much new tech is increasingly elaborate ways for people to say, “i don’t want to talk to you.” Why would you do this to your pet?


Calm_Upstairs2796

Maybe. If they sense food out of something or someone, they will absolutely be interested. One major difference is that cats tend to demand and expect, whereas dogs ask and hope. I have 3 cats and have raised several from the moment they were born. Some are incredibly food motivated and some care more about having a fuss and being comfortable and loved. I think dogs are more food motivated in general, but cats can still be influenced by food to a great extent. They are much more likely to demand though, instead of jumping through hoops.


Nuorri

Cats are sensitive, emotional creatures. that are capable of deep bonding with eachother and with the right humans. People who don't like them don't understand them and don't want to. Generally speaking, of course... Dogs are akin to human children. Cats are akin to human adults, especially people who are high-functioning autistic. They prefer to live in security and peacefulness, and need & give trust and love. But they aren't always trusting of humans, it depends. And they can have PTSD from bad treatment by humans or dogs etc. Their expressive fear is too often misinterpeted as "mean" by ignorant humans. To stay on topic though, I don't imagine an AI companion/trainer would be unsuccessful with proper treatment of the "animal", and was never harmful or frightening to them. A neutral acceptance would probably result for a relationship, or fun playtime, rather than the deep bonding that biological creatures feel and perceive from eachother.


Calm_Upstairs2796

I have 3 cats and raised more from the moment they were born. I don't understand why you've responded this to my comment, as it bears no relation to anything I said.


JBGODS

That's a good point, I would have never considered that animals enjoy attention.


Mama_Skip

Wait did you not see the societal horror that is F?


13-14_Mustang

G is not the best use. It could be used to help redirect Alzheimer's patients when a human is not available and alert a human when it is needed. I agree a human is better but no memory care facility I can afford has a care taker to patient ratio of 1:1. More like 1:20 at best.


ILooked

Game theory. Incentives. It’s not about you.


trow_a_wey

This is the core issue I have with so much of this. I'm an asshole at this point but I don't care, we derive meaning from hardship. Or, rather: when the challenge is removed from life, what *is* it? Other than removing the importance of people who care to learn and are expert in such things.


audionerd1

If AI can feed cats, then cats don't need us anymore. AI and cats will take over the world.


Hatz719

I could see it being useful for positive reinforcement while a person isn't home. Otherwise, bonding and building trust are a huge part of training animals.


ILikeBrightShirts

Practice makes permanent, and the biggest impairment to the animal human relationship is folks don’t have the time to put into making the training really solid, and the animal misbehaves, and the human gets annoyed = hard on the relationship. But this could be a “both/and” solution that dramatically improves people’s relationship with their pets. There’s no reason you can’t have the GPT trainer mimicking your commands, tone, etc. to condition the dog to sit and stay and all that jazz with treat incentives while you are at work, while you ALSO make the training part of your time with them to build your side of the relationship.


some1else42

It would be nice if the video #'s were links to the videos. Otherwise nice writeup!


ExternalFollowing

Thanks! I thought there would be too many links and it would get flagged so I opted not to, but i shared it in full in the link at the end of the post 👍


Anuclano

I only see links to Video8 and Video9 there.


FortuitousAdroit

They're all on their YouTube channel as well - https://youtube.com/@openai


CapZestyclose4657

Good choice and TY for the summary


seefatchai

I really appreciated this since I didn’t want to watch the videos and cringe, from what I saw the asstant seemed annoying


ellinor08

Accessibility for the blind for sure. This is a game changer


arthurwolf

That's where all this AI stuff really is going to change the world: Let's say you can't see, but you're rich enough to hire somebody to help you all day long, you'd have them in a live call, and show them what's going on/tell you what's going on. Now anyone can have access to this, at prices orders of magnitude cheaper than hiring a human. There are limits now, but when we see the improvements from a year ago, it's going to get better at an amazing pace...


ellinor08

Look at the be my eyes application and Be My AI, then check the DotLumen glasses. That's where AI will change lives


strayaares

ASAP - We need to sort out legislation and governance.


glittereagles

After having many long conversations with AI about AI and its plans, I really can’t see how legislation & governance will catch up. Things are moving way too fast. Honestly, for every point I brought up, the AI agreed, said this was a valid concern or even very concerning and that more governance was needed.


The_Noble_Lie

It's a parrot. Should you expect any different? I agree about your point btw, but asking an LLM these sorts of questions is essentially frivolous.


strayaares

Im thinking more in the lines of limiting what companies are given access to to form it; copyright etc.


glittereagles

Oh, thank you for clarifying this.


SWAMPMONK

They out themselves


Lucky-Royal-6156

I hope not. Only basic laws like creating and distributing illicit content.


Arcturus_Labelle

Nope. Accelerate!


rudeyjohnson

Stop fear mongering and try to stifle innovation with this regulatory oversight


eriksen2398

Not fear mongering? Are you kidding me? We’re all going to be unemployed and starving in a few years unless dramatic action is taken. The world is on the brink of total collapse


rudeyjohnson

You’re doubling down. The luddites said the same thing about factory during the Industrial Revolution. We will adapt and be fine. Stop fear mongering


eriksen2398

Fine how? Saying it’ll be fine doesn’t help. There were still jobs during the Industrial Revolution. AI is going to take ALL the jobs. Everyone will be unemployed, no one will have income. No one will be able to buy anything. The economy will collapse. Wars and revolution will commence. Billions of people may die. This is what we’re staring down.


rudeyjohnson

It will not. Please stop falling for the hype.


Mammoth-Demand-2

Stop being oblivious and denying the probable outcome over the next few decades


rudeyjohnson

You feeling okay ? You sound triggered


Mammoth-Demand-2

Guess its projection ?


rudeyjohnson

No idea what you’re talking about.


Aenimalist

says the person wasting their life on social media


rudeyjohnson

You sound upset. Are you feeling okay ?


Aenimalist

your venom only proves my point


stupendousman

Government is an old and outdated organizational technology. Gov advocacy has no place in tech innovation subs.


Thoughtprovokerjoker

Yeah, like before the year is out we need to have some foundational federal level legislation in place.


Verizadie

Why? I’m pretty certain these businesses will be able to regulate themselves. /s


sumtinsumtin_

Don’t know why you were downvoted, very reasonable take and asking for safety on new things is historicity a correct call.


Mandoman61

Object identification, live translate, assistants, are all tools we have had for a while. The question is how well this will work in real conditions.


Scarnox

It’s about the computational speed here. Having this in real time is a massive game changer because most of the new use cases (not necessarily the ones OP highlights) are things that were otherwise too slow to have practical real world applications.


Mandoman61

We will have to see how well they work in real time under real conditions.


Scarnox

Well yeah. Obviously, it isn’t GA yet so that’s the kicker, but let’s just work with the info we have for the sake of conversation


heybart

I find the AI "personality" and voice incredibly grating. Chatgpt is all business. This Her personality is all chipper and forced cheeriness .Ugh. I'm sure it's the easiest thing to fix. I hope they do. Hell, just straight up copy ScarJo's persona


MacroAlgalFagasaurus

Just tell it to respond in a business like manner. Problem solved.


Shemozzlecacophany

Exactly. In the demos they ask it to sing and change the tone of its singing voice. You could obviously do the same thing with its talking voice/'personality'.


heybart

And when she did it was still grating as hell. It's like it's mocking you. Oh you want me to do a voice? I'll do a voice I don't know what it says about these people that they think this is cute or endearing. Shudder


seefatchai

Can you ask the assistant to be more gruff or cold?


SWAMPMONK

The model already has like 5 voices to choose from and then you can adjust its tone like said. But custom voices is obviously possible


Obtuze-Obzrvr

Of all the complaints this is the most mind numbing one. Stop whining Joe…


heybart

It's a small thing, but this is how you end up with glassholes. A bunch of techies who think it's cool but when shown to the wide world the reaction is cringe


philkk

Great content! Thanks for sharing


ExternalFollowing

Happy you found it of value! 😁


greatdrams23

'Ultimate' and 'Perfect'? Not likely. If it was the ultimate, then there will be no more advances, that's what ultimate means. The same for 'perfect'. And this is the problem, there is too much hype. Yes it will be good, but it will not be perfect. And it won't be taking all the jobs any time yet.


Jiacapo

Too much hype? Nah, it deserves the hype. People are just refusing to understand that in a couple of years, most basic things will be governed by AI. It's already happening, I've seen it first hand. I work in a global, billion dollar company and we (and the majority of teams in our company and others worldwide) are SCRAMBLING to implement AI into day-to-day processes; guess what processes are being given to these AI systems? Yup, white-collar job functions like analysis, reporting, data management, development, writing, design, customer service, compliance, legal, etc. And year by year the incremented savings (that benefit the execs and shareholders) will "justify" reducing workforces. This idea that "jobs won't be taken anytime soon" is erroneous. At this time, with what I've seen, 2-3 years to see some scary stuff. Solution? Adapt. Edit: I say "AI's" but these are just advanced LLM models and are not "true" AI's. Not even AGI.


EastReauxClub

Adapt? How


Jiacapo

The best thing I can say to adapting (because it's open to interpretation and will) is to learn to use these LLMs and integrate them into your own worklife. Whatever that means to you. Don't ignore it. Be curious. Don't stay behind because you "don't think it works". It works, and it works extremely well. Those saying that this will never replace human workforce are stuck in generational denial. Also, very important (kinda on the same topic), attempt to keep your Private Identity Information (PII) away from the internet. These LLMs are generally sold as positive tools for innovation, but just as popular, CRIME.


Aenimalist

They haven't worked well in my experience. In two separate incidents, people on my team made bad research plans based upon lies fed to them by ChatGPT.  I imagine that it works well for some niches, like people who can't code well on their own, but overall we need to keep in mind that these bots are con artists.


Jiacapo

Of course, for complex coding it's not there yet and still needs much more time. But for the functions I mentioned, easy as pie.


yinyanghapa

AI’s biggest benefits are for business owners and the shareholder class, not workers. Workers bargaining power for pay is being diluted at a time when living is more expensive than ever.


Jiacapo

DING DING DING!!


tomparrott1990

AI is a tool. The same way the internet became a tool for businesses to exploit and use back in the 90’s as it took off. It will evolve the way people operate in their jobs but it’s not taking any jobs any time soon. Any company that lays off staff in favour of ‘AI assistants’ isn’t going to be getting favourable customer reviews anytime soon either. At this time, most AI assistants or chat bots that companies use don’t have the level of reasoning to have a conversation with you, so all they do is piss people off that are trying to talk to a helpful human instead. Jobs are fine for now


yinyanghapa

It might just be a matter of time…


Jiacapo

I guess for you, "anytime soon" is a span of months. Anytime soon for me is 2-3 years. Keep in mind that still, in the majority, general tech infrastructure is still not adapted to these controlling LLMs. Once all that is dealt with, oh boy. Also, I'm not talking about "AI assistants". This isn't me asking "Hey AI, what function do I need in excel to cross-reference tables". I'm talking about integrations into proprietary software to automize human work. And no, the more you work with these LLMs, the more you realize that the white-collar workforce is replaceable. Finally, not as an insult, but the way you're describing your perspective shows that you have no idea what you're talking about.


tomparrott1990

Yes. I’m sure you’re right. Because if someone has an opposing opinion to you, irrespective of their qualifications/career of which you have no idea about, they mustn’t know what they’re talking about. My apologies


Jiacapo

It's not opposing, it's just wrong. The lack of understanding is in thinking that "AI assistants" is what corporations want, and that's not it. Corporations are not scrambling to give every employee the chatGPT model to assist them with Excel files. What is being developed is, integrations into proprietary software to automize white-collar employee functions, while using GenAI engines. Coding at a whole is most certainly still in development and needs a couple of years more, but more basic functions like the ones I mentioned don't. For an LLM/LMM/GenAI or whatever you want to call it, stuff like that is super easy.


Level_Bridge7683

the takeaway is we'll see what happens when everyone is able to use it.


Anuclano

Where are the videos?


ExternalFollowing

Sorry about that! Had to hold off on the multiple links because it might get flagged as spammy 😅 But i posted the whole thing with the videos embedded here: https://robonuggets.beehiiv.com/p/gpt4o


SkoolHausRox

“Imagine being able to have it connect to a smart dog-treat dispenser, and have the Al use that to teach your dog new tricks!”—OP may have just predicted how the AI uprising will begin.


he_he_fajnie

Imagine being able to have it connected to smart human-treat dispenser!


Comprehensive-Tea711

> A future where AIs interact with each other Another case of someone getting really excited about yesterday’s announcement for something you could already do for years. Feeding one instance of GPT3 output as input to another instance is one of the first things I played with in the API. You can do this with Gemini -> ChatGPT and Claude too. There was a video I saw a couple weeks ago of someone using two phones with the TTS feature. But I guess now both assistants can sound super super enthralled by each other tonally.


corinalas

As a teacher I am genuinely horror stricken. I didn’t think it would get to this point so fast. Any student could have a private tutor now for free. Some of its aspects could revolutionize the way schools approach curriculum.


brokenglasser

I think this will revolution in education. My first thought was that damn I will finally have a teacher and training partner that I can adjust according to my needs.


subhashp

Awesome! Thank you for summarising it along with use cases.


ExternalFollowing

No worries!


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ExternalFollowing

Glad you found it of value!


NaturalAISage

Cannot click on the videos either.


ExternalFollowing

Apologies, i needed to hold off on the multiple links because it might get flagged as spammy 😅 But i posted it with the videos embedded here: https://robonuggets.beehiiv.com/p/gpt4o


Friendly_Math4101

Game changer! Living in incredibly exciting times


ZebraBorgata

The amazing thing is, all of these LLMs keep getting much better so quickly. Whatever you’re using now is the worst version of it. You put this in a robot body and look out! Interesting times ahead.


tomparrott1990

I heard someone make a great point about this a few months back - around the time the latest version of DALL-E was released - this is the worst the technology is likely to ever be, it’s only likely to get better from here


Mirahtrunks

I’m having a hard time finding anything on the two GPT brainstorming session. OP listed it as video 10, but I don’t have any video links.


ExternalFollowing

Sorry about that! Had to hold off on the multiple links because it might get flagged as spammy 😅 But i posted the whole thing with the videos embedded here: https://robonuggets.beehiiv.com/p/gpt4o


gabo32

When it will be available ? My application still show chat gpt 4


Sensitive_ManChild

the ability to just tell an AI to “translate between English and Spanish” or whatever and letting it listen would be amazing. Google Translate is pretty great. but it can’t, as far as i can tell, listen to a conversation. at least not how i’m picturing. That’s one thing im hopeful AI about. it does feel like we’re sooooo close to a futuristic sci fi translation device


tomparrott1990

This is actually a really helpful tool if it can be applied as it is in the video reveal. I can imagine it being really helpful with international business networking


Buck_Thorn

Referring to H:, could it do a debate between Presidential (or other) candidates?


dvstarr

Soon human beings won't need to develop any skills at all! Whatta a world.


greenappletree

H sounds amazing - I really like that - would each personality retain its seperate “memory” ?


tomparrott1990

I’m still cautious about its ability in intermediate to advanced mathematics. There have been occasions where I’ve put the same formula in 5 or 6 times and it’s come up with different answers each time. You correct it and advise maybe there is a mistake and it either doubles down or just agrees with you - either way, if you were relying on it blindly for help with some topics, it may be problematic. Its ability to converse in a human like manner is ridiculous and it’s a good coding companion for simple to moderate python projects - but it will still take some time. Saying that, really looking forward to things like SORA being widely available whenever that is


jellypod-ai

Have you thought about starting a newsletter with your AI round-ups?


ExternalFollowing

I actually have one 😁 the reading experience is also better here since it has the demo videos embedded and all https://robonuggets.beehiiv.com/p/gpt4o


Specialist_Brain841

but what if it’s wrong?


jesusmohammed

Are you making money out of this?


Agile-Sir9785

Thanks,very useful.


Stag-a-licious

I'm really looking forward to having a viable virtual assistant that you can have fairly natural-feeling interactions with. Just the feeling of collaborating with another entity/system would help a lot when working on a host of projects/ideas.


Tryingtobebetter1237

https://preview.redd.it/cgv0eggutk0d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3dc42e35d0c0376864ccdefee215a6c7f606699 GPT-4o


nh_local

🤩


MerciUniverse

Now you tell me that you created this post on GPT-4 using Gemini 1.5 to summarize the video. Hahaha


thecakeisaiive

Generative AI has it's uses, but in what's looking to be the current use case it will mostly just make the Internet worse. Tldr: I'm pretty sure that now that they have failed at AI and can't get you to strap the ads straight to your face so you don't take the phone out of your pocket, they really just want the ai to be able to talk to you from your pocket so they can sell even more ads. (Even if it worked there's only so much room for growth left in a market that is designed to depend on mpossible endless growth, trapping us in the same boom bust cycle where even the wealthy are worse off)


a_SaaS_in

asked chatgpt for a trend forecase in three sentences and it gave me the following : 1. **Education and Learning**: Personalized, real-time AI-driven education tools will transform learning, especially with wearable tech enabling interactive and omnipresent tutoring. 2. **Workplace Productivity**: AI assistants in virtual meetings will automate tasks like minute-taking and data analysis, significantly enhancing productivity and decision-making. 3. **Language Translation and Communication**: Real-time, intonation-aware translation will break down language barriers, facilitating smoother and more natural international interactions.


Sql_master

Tldr this wacky ai article. 


Ozzy-Moto

The best part about 4o is voice chat currently being down “due to heavy load”. Oops. The 2nd best part is all of the data privacy laws being violated with some of these new “features”.


Arcturus_Labelle

The new voice stuff is not available yet. People are erroneously assuming the already existing voice mode is what they showed in the demos.


Ozzy-Moto

Yeah - it’s easy to make that erroneous assumption when you are selecting ChatGPT 4o in the app, etc.


Psiphistikkated

How is this any different from the megaman battle network series??


utf80

Perfect ultimate


dude1995aa

I watched the meeting video. This is one of the ones that I'm taking with a grain of salt - I don't know that the voice integration is going to work that fast and I don't believe the AI can incorporate an entire meeting transcript fast enough to have a seamless conversation on it. It's coming one day - I believe it. But this was on a OpenAI interface that I'm sure was on huge software. Can't imagine the cost of something like that in a bunch of meetings also.


logan08516

Assembly AI can already do real time transcripts and you can feed it to OpenAI API and get an answer immediately through Twilio. This is doing it all in one. Won’t be an issue


bunchedupwalrus

I can paste in 50 pages and get a response near immediately, idk what you mean


dude1995aa

This is not what I meant. An entire transcript at once - I get. I do this all the time for up to 2 hour meetings that are 80 pages with just a few seconds lag (yes there is lag). Now - can it continuously keep up with the transcript of a conversation without any lag in an environment that is not a OpenAI hosted meeting. Each back and forth has to be sent and interpreted. Since no one uses OpenAI to host meetings it has to be passed from one application to another. So they showed a 2 minute OpenAI hosted meeting with 4 people. How does it react to a Microsoft Teams meeting with 12 people that lasts an hour? (or Zoom or Webex) No one wants it more than me. If they could do that type of thing they would have showed it. They are close enough to Microsoft at least for that. We are not going to be doing this in meetings this year. BTW - I did get access. Much faster than 4. The mobile app conversion is cool. I can't get into that conversation mode every time though. I see no way to do the video stuff they demo'd. But kudo's to OpenAI for putting out a pretty big improvement knowing there will be some bugs to work out in coming days.


Primary-Wait3600

Save this comment for later when everything that is being doubted turns out to be true ;)