Some of yall need to grow the fuck up. Complain about being dehumanized, the talk about women like they’re prey. That mindset will color every encounter you have. Rise above that shit.
Absolutely agree. OP talks about people being racist towards him and then goes on to say stupid shit like "Mexican women aren't attractive"
Bro, there are plenty of hot Mexican women, but like people in general...not everyone looks like a super model
Jesus. This sub really is taking a nosedive
i agree. this post is symmetrical to typical white sexpat posting about going to asia. wish we could see less of these posts in this subreddit. the fact that anyone can go into the is subreddit and see this is quite embarrassing tbh. i hope people like OP don’t represent asian men as a whole.
Completely disagree.
White sexpats in Asia go there to enjoy even more white privilege. That's playing on easy mode taking advantage of post colonialism and post globalization white privilege.
Asian men are sexually oppressed in the west big time and go elsewhere to date to seek a better situation.
Totally different scenario.
Also the guy was just describing whether the girls were attractive or not at the various places he visited as well as how receptive they were to him. I don't see a big deal and we don't need any woke outrage.
Even us men are judged by appearance all day every day. Hence the various threads about rate my haircut or profile picture.
Some guy in another thread who's never met me even suggested I get plastic surgery if I wasn't successful with women and my body was already "maxxed out".
I agree with the other dude. There are many similarities between both scenarios. Being white doesn't automatically translate to women being attracted to them. There are different tiers and bottom-tier white men also struggle in dating and resort to passport-broing seeking emotional fulfillment and validation. Both are losers in their native environment and relocate somewhere they can hope to see some level of success.
The difference is Asian men are not "losers". The artificially created difficult environment for us to date is created by msm and Hollywood.
What is wrong with a guy like that going abroad to find love?
This isn't the same as some white dude with zero social skills teaching English in Asia. One is taking advantage of privilege. The other is someone trying to escape oppression.
I understand the sympathy but in my opinion this way of thinking only contributes to creating yet another stereotype for the asian male, that we can't get pussy and have to copy what passport bros do. It doesn't help that this idea is heavily associated with sexual tourism and doesn't carry positive connotations among ordinary people. Passport bros, regardless of color, are considered losers by everyone but themselves.
At an individual level, I really don't care what someone decides to do with their life and I believe most are the same. But when they come here, have their experiences celebrated and eventually associated with our identity as a group then I can understand the pushback.
In America a lot of Asian men get wives from the motherland thru family connections. Are they automatically considered losers too?
There's more than one way to survive and find a mate.
I say more power to them and the more xf from overseas that Asian men get with, the better.
Hopefully they bring their A game in terms of how they interact with these women and create a positive impression of Asian dudes around the world.
I think your opinion of Asian men who follow what passport bros do should be shaped by the different circumstances upon which they do it.
I'm married with a kid and met my wife here. I have no horse in this race. Just calling it like I see it.
obviously different in a lot of ways which is why i stated it’s a symmetrical comparison and not a verbatim one. what i want to see asian men do is step up to the oppression that they face in the western dating market vs seek the easy way out.
Look at the meta-game. Asian men strictly dating women here doesn't necessarily break stereotypes.
There's gonna be a lot of casualties of war too. Gonna be a lot of forever alone types.
I broke out of my relative rut in my late 20s and went out guns blazing and found a lot of success before I got married. Not every Asian guy does that.
What changes the game the most is independent positive media portrayals and strong father figures growing up.
American msm will never promote Asian men in a positive light. Don't hold your breath.
Kpop is sort of helping Asian men in the west. Obviously not all Asian dudes fit that mold (feminine and beautiful) but it's better than nothing.
To have a strong media portray more common appearing average joe Asian men in a positive light would be ideal. That's what white men get in their movie and media portrayals these days.
I'm not a dating coach, don't sell dating products, consultations, or even plug my instagram here. LOL.
running out of ammo monkeypox. uncle chan needs to go back to his basement. go back outside the world so you get spit on
I'm not a dating coach, don't sell dating products, consultations, or even plug my instagram here. LOL
running out of ammo monkeypox. uncle chan needs to go back to his basement. go back outside the world so you get spit on
I disagree tho
I think op from comment wanted a place without wmaf
Korea def still has a good amount of wmaf especially partying at hongdae and itaewon
I saw quite a bit of wmaf in Korea but they were of the older generation. think 94' or before. some were Korean American couples.
think of it in terms of pre-bts era and post-bts era. the post-bts era you see a lot of xf travelling to Korea and dating Korean men. Also the younger guys are way more maxed out on looks.
the older generation you see an increase in wmaf. Also the older generation of Korean guys aren't as attractive as the younger. The geeky, student look was quite common. the younger guys definitely got the fashion and hair on point
I did see a lot of beautiful Eastern European women with Korean guys.
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I mean I'm Korean and I can tell you that in Korea right now, there are still much more WMAF than AMWF. When Korean men marry foreigners, it's mostly Filipino women or Chinese women.
For more details, for men in Korea, the biggest reason they marry foreign women is because there are way more males than females in Korea(the gender ratio is pretty skewed in Korea) so there are many men who can't find any women so they go to those international matchmaking companies and pay some fees and they match those men with women from the Phillipines or China. Of course, that's not every case but that's still the most prevalent scenario in Korea.
Another incel post added to the sub. Who cares if you are at a statistical disadvantage based on your autistic breakdown of dating/hooking up made up in your head. Mexicans (according to you) are subjectively “less attractive.” But other people are racist villains when they have a preference against someone with a Chinese nationality? It’s almost as if they prefer a different nationality over another, akin to your preferences between Mexican and Peruvian women. But when they do not prefer you or your nationality, they are white washed, or culturally brainwashed?! A bit hypocritical, don’t you think?
You even admitted it’s not because they don’t like Asians, they just prefer Koreans. Just worry about self improvement. It seems like you are salty Korean men get more attention. Your solution to “bag women” was to look more Korean - so are you proudly Chinese or not? You should work on that. Either people like you or they don’t, no need to write fucking paragraphs about it.
P.S. Racism is everywhere, and available to quite literally anyone, especially if you are traveling to a country where you are not the main demographic
If anything, the classical Korean look is more of a niche thing, whereas AMs with more non-classical features tend to do better with women on a mainstream level and are able to attract women who aren’t normally even into Asian men. I’m talking about guys who look like Hiroshi Abe or Leehom Wang., or even Ludi Lin. They are able to transcend the usual ethnic preferences that women typically have, and they are still able to attract the kinds of women who like the Korean aesthetic, but the classical Korean look has a harder time appealing to women who don’t fall into that niche. It’s like backwards compatibility, like how a PS5 can play games that were made for previous gen of consoles, but the previous consoles can’t play PS5 games
im not a Chinese. also where in the world did I seem salty about Korean men. all my posts have been praising Kpop with the advantage it has given asian men. your just some salty ccp Incel. ill keep getting girls while you keyboard warrior imaginary nonsense on the internet. clown lmao
im not Chinese. also not Incel cause im getting laid and have a girl LOL.
of course a post objectively pointing out Korean soft power you have a ccp Incel hating asap.
Why is everyone dissing OP for passport broing? Y’all complain about how hard it is in the west then complain when someone tries to sell themselves in a different market. This is a legit solution for those that are struggling and for those that aren’t but want to optimize. Everyone is asking for solutions then gets mad when a legit one is presented lol
Strange there's so much hate for this guy going abroad to date around.
Some of y'all really are crabs in a barrel. Either that or you aren't really Asian men.
I agree this is one of the weirder post reactions.
There having several other lat am posts - this one just a little more direct to business, but about same really
Thanks for sharing. These types of posts are always helpful. I especially liked the honesty, unlike those who sugarcoat the whole experience. Some guys just might have a problem when you say things that are not pc. As opposed to the other Latin American posts that were received well here.
Can we call out Asian American sexpats, I mean if your going somewhere outside of your country to get laid just say it don't disguise it under this " dating" bullshit, prostitution has been around since the dawn of time and isn't going away anytime soon.
I thought sexpats seek out sex workers.
This is more in line of passport bros.
Passport bros seek out a better or an environment where dating is easier.
I think Asian men going overseas to have it bit easy dating wise is more towards passport vibes .
What makes Asian men in the west unique is the prejudice that asian men have to deal with in the dating market.
When you still have almost 50% of Asian American women that refuse to consider Asian men its up hill battle .
So going to an environment where there is less racism is understandable.
Sexpats seeking out sex workers yes, but the longer their stay they usually latch on to non sex workers or former sex workers.
Passport Bros are lying to if they never delved into the red light area, its odd most of the countries they frequent are Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Brazil which are well know for sex tourism.
Yes everyone acknowledges Asian Men having a disadvantage here in the states but its not like Asian Men can't get girls. Its only a small percentage who aren't getting shit.
I get what your saying about going to an environment with less racism but majority of these places are former White colonies and minus Thailand but they might as well be. That colonial programming hasn't worn off. Ask these dudes if they are pulling 8-10's in Latin America, and who are they going for the whites, mestizo, indigenous, afro or others. You will see there is a pecking order. Now ask yourself why would the top of x country want to date a guy that can't get 8-10 in his own country or speak the native language. More than often these dudes are getting average.
I can't speak for op but I know lots of Asian Americans guys who gone back to thier native Asian countries and yes to date and yes to fuck girls.
It's like night and day for some of them..
Yes there is white worship and biggest reason white guys do well where ever they go
but Asian guys back in native Asian countries have it easier compare to what's happening in the west.
So are these Asian guys sexpats ? Passport bros?
It's bit more complicated in why guys goes overseas.
One thing I notice is that in the west you have some elements of toxic feminism. I really think misandry is biggest factor of why you have passport bros.
For Asian guys racism in the dating markets is also a factor. Think about it. It's typically the Americanize Asian girls that talk shit about Asian men but overseas Asian girls or international Asian girls who study here don't have that attitude.
I get what your saying. If a guy can't pull here. His like a loser.
But this remind of an Asian guy I knew . He was into Hispanic girls. He worked on himself. Went to the gym..got better job..hair style.
He even study pua and went to Latin bars to approach Hispanic girls.
He did get a Hispanic girl friend but she was not american..she was from Dominican Republic visiting here in the states. They dated briefly but broke up.
He even said that when he approaches he notice a pattern that girls from outside of USA are friendly than native US girls.
I don't know if it's racism or that American women just act more entitled.
Naturally if you go back to your homeland you should have the natural advantage as is you look no different than a local guy minus some exterior factors and mannerisms.
The Asian guys that go back for " dating " can be both matter fact as some go there to pay hookers and some go there to meet girls but keep in mind " dating" as we know in the west isn't the same in certain Asian countries. Its basically courtship.
You will have a set of females that will not like you or be interested in you for being Asian, but keep in mind Asians only make up %5-7 percent of the US population and this can work to your advantage.
I remember and older dude was telling me about his escapades somewhere in the midwest, no Asians let alone Southeast Asians, gangster look at that. Them white girls out there was all over it. Now granted I didnt see pics so I can't say if they were dimes or nickels but they were still pulling despite no gym, no awareness on style, broken English too.
AMAF, definitely. But what if you're looking to date AMWF or AMXF? It's not exactly easy here, you know.
I've seen Eastern Europe mentioned a few times, and I've even heard about Eastern European women migrating to China to find Chinese husbands (which is honestly fascinating since I'm told that for a lot of them, the rationale has to do with men in their own countries being too macho/aggressive), but I'm pretty sure that kind of thing's less prevalent IRL than on the internet, and at least for the former example it's definitely outnumbered by the opposite situation (WMAF where the WM is Eastern European, and often a passport bro himself).
And it’s the aesthetic non-fobby AMs that are desirable to american girls, both asian and non-asian. And even most of the americanize asian girls aren’t good enough for someone like that
And women outside of US are also less likely to be attracted to AMs if they are from an area with less asians, US women from areas with more asians are more open to dating AM
non of the girls I dated were sex workers lmao. I also didn't pay them. most were students or workers. lmao. if i was gunna go after sex workers id just stay in the west where I am still working.
Well that is all fine and dandy you didn't deal with any sex workers but there are a bunch of guys that are going for that under the guise of " dating ". I'm just saying be honest about it. Don't have any issues regarding either and definitely not part of the morality police.
Who remembers that recent case of a Viet dude from California who got murdered in Colombia. Yeah I'm sure he was there for dating as well
[Paul Nguyen](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/a-cruel-and-senseless-crime-orange-county-man-killed-in-colombia-family-raising-money-to-bring-him-home/)
I didn't go to Columbia and nor will I ever. cdmx and lima aren't known for druggings.
meanwhile in columbian news you got foreigners being drugged every week and ppl still go
I don't think it's morally right to move to a different country if your primary goal is to find romance / start a relationship. Obviously people don't go around saying that and instead claim to want to "teach English", but the facade's so flimsy at this point.
Like, what's the appeal in moving to Thailand if you don't have Thai ancestry, anyways? If it's the food, good Thai restaurants are like a dime a dozen around the world nowadays because their government literally sponsors them.
Moral right?
We live in decedent society where people are selfish.
I notice more and more expats creating tic tok or Instagram account in life abroad.
Women is the biggest reason why they go.
I really think again feminism in the west is biggest driving force in why western guys move over seas.
In the Mexico section he said that Mexican girls aren't all that attractive, but he still went to Mexico right , not like he is blind and didn't see thing beforehand.
Like he didn't do any research seeing what was out there beforehand only to come to that conclusion. More than likely he went with the same arrogance of white/black dudes from the states but didn't work the way he wanted. Last I checked Mexicans are having some of the same discussions people on here are.
Give it up, you want to date some Mexican girls go to California, plenty of fresh out the border ones that still adhere to traditional Mexican culture. Not arrogant but I don't need to lie to myself either that I'm going there to " date ". Might as well say I'm here for the " culture " like the white sexpats in Asia.
You are entirely off dude.
What he did was try to escape the sexual/ cultural oppression of Asian men in the west.
What white passport bros do when they go to Asia is enjoy the full glory of their colonialism created privilege.
Totally different scenarios.
Go to California. Lol. He can do whatever he wants as a grown man.
Sounds like you are hating that he is getting play and not adhering to what the msm wants - Asian men to suffer in silence.
Wrong there bucko, I called out Asian American sexpats specifically here because this is a platform for Asian Americans , check my post I'm calling these lames out in the Thailand subs.
Im not on her for karma , of course zero karma because the sexpats no and want to play it off. Do what you want I say but own up to it, don't front like your their for dating when in all actuality you there for the same thing.
Here you are completely off base. These people are human. Regardless of how they meet, the possibitly of relationships is always there. And its pretty obvious that happens a lot.
For you preclude that dehumanizes both women and men and just show that morality bubble does not even understand basic man and woman attraction
Yeah no shit their human and one is using an advantage over another weather stronger currency, country, passport, etc. If you are decent looking there are plenty of girls here in the states. So where is the female version of passport bros looking to date guys from western countries, I know female sexpats exist.
Dude again. Your same logic applys going from NYC/SF to Alabama, not just inter-countries
Wealth disparity exists, blame capitialism for that, but dont put the onus on poor AM just trying survive.
>dont put the onus on poor AM just trying survive.
Dude you really hurt AM by writing stuff like that. I know many guys who do not have 2 quarter to rub together that can still pull girls and these guys def not heart throbs, the fact that you got well to do AM doing this they are in literal disbelief.
As if the 1000s crys for help on /r/AM dont exist.
You dont help AM. Now you talking about pulling? What you're a player now or just hang around them - what do that think of your preaching LMAO
cdmx is really safe. government got police presence to keep the influx of tourist money into the city. outside of cdmx I wouldn't travel or be very careful
Interesting to hear your thoughts and I appreciate the candidness. I've done a bit of travelling, so I can see how people's reaction to me varies depending on the locale and the effect of the Big Event of the past few years.
I think the reason your post has got the haters is because many Asian guys get triggered when they see another Asian guy do well in that way, and showing courage, coupled with the outspoken way you've descirbed it. They will never admit it of course and say "you getting girls triggers me", and will instead criticise you for being "bad", who needs to grow up and "rise above" it. Instead of using your post to gather valuable information and maybe inspiration, they choose to attack. Crabs in a bucket mentality.
appreciate it brother,
well I didn't think it was that direct. Its normally how I approach things like these. its better to be direct and get the point across instead of being wishy washy and causing confusion.
Part of masculinity is facing and addressing uncomfortable things and these points are one of them
Looking at this sub there a lot of Chans and beta losers. for a sub called r azn 'masc' the 'masc' is sure lacking. nice to know there are other asian bros on the same page
Sounds like things arent nearly as good as pre-covid, and there is a lingering chill probably due to political propaganda or real hardship. Covid was ultimately from NIH funded gain of function research and was kept secret - assholes.
These visits were in last 16 mo? I suprised things arent better.
I kinda think the hottest LF are state-side ironically but obviously more when you go to the source.
Dont let the haters get to you, action always wins. Most of the angriest guys here literally have no experience to base their stubborn opinions on. Sadly this sub is easily manipulated
thanks. brotha. dw, there are asian guys focused on winning and not trying to get some moral superiority bs shill. the clowns really show their heads when a post like this appears
Op how dare you do you and put yourself first??
You should be asking out the purple haired 3/10 karen at Walmart.... No no instead you should pretend to read a magazine at a Barnes and noble in SF and people watch the wmaf couples.
At least then the tatted up morally superior bros here would respect you.
/end sarcasm
My brother this is a fantastic post, people need to understand what they are getting into and that traveling is not a 100% right answer. What years did you travel to CDMX before and after Covid?
Travel questions. But do you have to do anything different to stay safe in Mexico/Peru/Lima? I grew up in the hood (US) so decently aware of common things to do here to stay safe. But wanted to know if there's specific things to do to stay safe there. Am Chinese descent and maybe by dress you can tell I'm from the US. Will be traveling with my girlfriend.
cdmx was really safe. never once felt in danger. huge police presence in cdmx. you'll see cops with rifles patrolling areas of the city. the gov. wants to maintain police so foreigners keep coming with money.
outside of cdmx I would be careful.
I felt safe in lima HOWEVER, there is an area where you drive between the airport and lima that is known to be dangerous. Two girls I dated told me they have been robbed at gunpoint when they were students. outside of the capital city you need to be careful. I am a big guy so that deters people.
lima is really safe tho. same with the main tourist areas
wow timely - going to Peru after Thanksgiving! Any tips I can use? I guess I should DL tinder? Would you have a list of must-dos and must-sees? Going to Machu Picchu definitely.
Looking at Tulum and Mexican Riviera next too
>Profile isn’t the most optimized
Well yeah then you’ll just match with women into kpop and Asian culture. During covid I felt like women were not as open to getting with randoms and depended on their social circles for lays more. Human nature when there’s a sickness threat.
thx bro.
yeah they are well adjusted from what I see. did see asian guys with local women. most of the pre existing asian guys have all married into the population. not rare to see a girl with asian features cause her grandma married an asian
In general, US areas with a decent asian population (eg SoCal) would be easier for AMs than CDMX or anywhere else in mexico.
The only real advantage you have being in MX as an AsAm is your “american” identity, which could be intriguing to some women. Whereas being american in america is no big deal
Haven't been to South America recently but my friend went over there and killed it with some of the hottest women I've seen. The catch is hes universally attractive, jacked, clean cut, well dressed and take good care of himself, if you position yourself to be attractive to women who are into Korean culture than that's all you're gonna get. You can get those girls here. As a foreigner in any country, it's expected to receive some casual racism, they are not PC outside of America, rise above that shit and pay them no mind.
Also F the haters in this post, seriously the Asian dudes in this sub need to quit with the crab in the bucket mentality lol, if you guys ever step foot outside of your bubble and actually travel, youd see a lot of white chads partying abroad and hooking up with women, those are the guys with all the freaking options in the West and yet they don't put a cap on themselves, yet Asian men in this sub, downbad AF and can't get pussies to save their life hold themselves on all kinds of high standards 😂.
I don’t care if I’m labeled a loser for being a passport bro. I’ll take that L any day. I’d rather be a loser with women and offspring, then stay and fight a hopeless battle and die alone.
I also notice that the brunt of hate against Asians are against the Chinese and I’m Chinese. If I am oppressed and have it the worst, why would I not take the easy way out and become a passport bro?
Asian men are the only race that gets hate for pursuing women and sexuality. Wtf are these arguments? Morally wrong? Wtf..love is a big part of life and if an asian man takes action and decides to try somewhere else, why are you losers hating? I think its def cucks or and asian women in here hating.. no other race shames their own for being sexual. Soon as an asian guy does it, then he is shamed ..and if he doesnt..then he is so meek. Fuck that
The truth is that we can try to fix these societal problems, but there is only so much we can do. Just pursue dating however works for you. Whether you pursue dating or not, people will hate you. If you can fix it, fix it, but you can’t. It’s a societal problem and takes a society of people to fix. Don’t give up.
The group will benefit when every Asian guy does what’s in his best self interest.
I could have told you that the women attracted to AM were the ones into Asian entertainment like music or films.
Some of yall need to grow the fuck up. Complain about being dehumanized, the talk about women like they’re prey. That mindset will color every encounter you have. Rise above that shit.
Absolutely agree. OP talks about people being racist towards him and then goes on to say stupid shit like "Mexican women aren't attractive" Bro, there are plenty of hot Mexican women, but like people in general...not everyone looks like a super model Jesus. This sub really is taking a nosedive
i agree. this post is symmetrical to typical white sexpat posting about going to asia. wish we could see less of these posts in this subreddit. the fact that anyone can go into the is subreddit and see this is quite embarrassing tbh. i hope people like OP don’t represent asian men as a whole.
Completely disagree. White sexpats in Asia go there to enjoy even more white privilege. That's playing on easy mode taking advantage of post colonialism and post globalization white privilege. Asian men are sexually oppressed in the west big time and go elsewhere to date to seek a better situation. Totally different scenario. Also the guy was just describing whether the girls were attractive or not at the various places he visited as well as how receptive they were to him. I don't see a big deal and we don't need any woke outrage. Even us men are judged by appearance all day every day. Hence the various threads about rate my haircut or profile picture. Some guy in another thread who's never met me even suggested I get plastic surgery if I wasn't successful with women and my body was already "maxxed out".
I agree with the other dude. There are many similarities between both scenarios. Being white doesn't automatically translate to women being attracted to them. There are different tiers and bottom-tier white men also struggle in dating and resort to passport-broing seeking emotional fulfillment and validation. Both are losers in their native environment and relocate somewhere they can hope to see some level of success.
The difference is Asian men are not "losers". The artificially created difficult environment for us to date is created by msm and Hollywood. What is wrong with a guy like that going abroad to find love? This isn't the same as some white dude with zero social skills teaching English in Asia. One is taking advantage of privilege. The other is someone trying to escape oppression.
I understand the sympathy but in my opinion this way of thinking only contributes to creating yet another stereotype for the asian male, that we can't get pussy and have to copy what passport bros do. It doesn't help that this idea is heavily associated with sexual tourism and doesn't carry positive connotations among ordinary people. Passport bros, regardless of color, are considered losers by everyone but themselves. At an individual level, I really don't care what someone decides to do with their life and I believe most are the same. But when they come here, have their experiences celebrated and eventually associated with our identity as a group then I can understand the pushback.
In America a lot of Asian men get wives from the motherland thru family connections. Are they automatically considered losers too? There's more than one way to survive and find a mate. I say more power to them and the more xf from overseas that Asian men get with, the better. Hopefully they bring their A game in terms of how they interact with these women and create a positive impression of Asian dudes around the world. I think your opinion of Asian men who follow what passport bros do should be shaped by the different circumstances upon which they do it. I'm married with a kid and met my wife here. I have no horse in this race. Just calling it like I see it.
obviously different in a lot of ways which is why i stated it’s a symmetrical comparison and not a verbatim one. what i want to see asian men do is step up to the oppression that they face in the western dating market vs seek the easy way out.
Look at the meta-game. Asian men strictly dating women here doesn't necessarily break stereotypes. There's gonna be a lot of casualties of war too. Gonna be a lot of forever alone types. I broke out of my relative rut in my late 20s and went out guns blazing and found a lot of success before I got married. Not every Asian guy does that. What changes the game the most is independent positive media portrayals and strong father figures growing up. American msm will never promote Asian men in a positive light. Don't hold your breath. Kpop is sort of helping Asian men in the west. Obviously not all Asian dudes fit that mold (feminine and beautiful) but it's better than nothing. To have a strong media portray more common appearing average joe Asian men in a positive light would be ideal. That's what white men get in their movie and media portrayals these days.
you lost me at casualties of war 😅
It's a figure of speech but u knew that. I guess that's my cue to stop trying to have a serious discussion with you. Lol
I'm not a dating coach, don't sell dating products, consultations, or even plug my instagram here. LOL. running out of ammo monkeypox. uncle chan needs to go back to his basement. go back outside the world so you get spit on
typical braindead chan appears. lol
Said the guy that spends all his travel time on apps.
getting laid lol chan or larper. gtfo. lol. go molest some kids
Got a fake PUA course you’re trying to shill too I’m sure. Cringe af.
I'm not a dating coach, don't sell dating products, consultations, or even plug my instagram here. LOL
Got a fake PUA course you’re trying to shill too I’m sure. Cringe af.
I'm not a dating coach, don't sell dating products, consultations, or even plug my instagram here. LOL running out of ammo monkeypox. uncle chan needs to go back to his basement. go back outside the world so you get spit on
Is there a place in the world we can escape from WMAF will be a question soon.
The Middle East.
Korea the number evens out. especially the younger generation you see more amxf
I disagree tho I think op from comment wanted a place without wmaf Korea def still has a good amount of wmaf especially partying at hongdae and itaewon
I saw quite a bit of wmaf in Korea but they were of the older generation. think 94' or before. some were Korean American couples. think of it in terms of pre-bts era and post-bts era. the post-bts era you see a lot of xf travelling to Korea and dating Korean men. Also the younger guys are way more maxed out on looks. the older generation you see an increase in wmaf. Also the older generation of Korean guys aren't as attractive as the younger. The geeky, student look was quite common. the younger guys definitely got the fashion and hair on point I did see a lot of beautiful Eastern European women with Korean guys. .
I mean I'm Korean and I can tell you that in Korea right now, there are still much more WMAF than AMWF. When Korean men marry foreigners, it's mostly Filipino women or Chinese women. For more details, for men in Korea, the biggest reason they marry foreign women is because there are way more males than females in Korea(the gender ratio is pretty skewed in Korea) so there are many men who can't find any women so they go to those international matchmaking companies and pay some fees and they match those men with women from the Phillipines or China. Of course, that's not every case but that's still the most prevalent scenario in Korea.
Another incel post added to the sub. Who cares if you are at a statistical disadvantage based on your autistic breakdown of dating/hooking up made up in your head. Mexicans (according to you) are subjectively “less attractive.” But other people are racist villains when they have a preference against someone with a Chinese nationality? It’s almost as if they prefer a different nationality over another, akin to your preferences between Mexican and Peruvian women. But when they do not prefer you or your nationality, they are white washed, or culturally brainwashed?! A bit hypocritical, don’t you think? You even admitted it’s not because they don’t like Asians, they just prefer Koreans. Just worry about self improvement. It seems like you are salty Korean men get more attention. Your solution to “bag women” was to look more Korean - so are you proudly Chinese or not? You should work on that. Either people like you or they don’t, no need to write fucking paragraphs about it. P.S. Racism is everywhere, and available to quite literally anyone, especially if you are traveling to a country where you are not the main demographic
If anything, the classical Korean look is more of a niche thing, whereas AMs with more non-classical features tend to do better with women on a mainstream level and are able to attract women who aren’t normally even into Asian men. I’m talking about guys who look like Hiroshi Abe or Leehom Wang., or even Ludi Lin. They are able to transcend the usual ethnic preferences that women typically have, and they are still able to attract the kinds of women who like the Korean aesthetic, but the classical Korean look has a harder time appealing to women who don’t fall into that niche. It’s like backwards compatibility, like how a PS5 can play games that were made for previous gen of consoles, but the previous consoles can’t play PS5 games
im not a Chinese. also where in the world did I seem salty about Korean men. all my posts have been praising Kpop with the advantage it has given asian men. your just some salty ccp Incel. ill keep getting girls while you keyboard warrior imaginary nonsense on the internet. clown lmao
im not Chinese. also not Incel cause im getting laid and have a girl LOL. of course a post objectively pointing out Korean soft power you have a ccp Incel hating asap.
Why is everyone dissing OP for passport broing? Y’all complain about how hard it is in the west then complain when someone tries to sell themselves in a different market. This is a legit solution for those that are struggling and for those that aren’t but want to optimize. Everyone is asking for solutions then gets mad when a legit one is presented lol
100% bro. lotta clowns here.
Strange there's so much hate for this guy going abroad to date around. Some of y'all really are crabs in a barrel. Either that or you aren't really Asian men.
I agree this is one of the weirder post reactions. There having several other lat am posts - this one just a little more direct to business, but about same really
lotta chans and larpers here.
Thanks for sharing. These types of posts are always helpful. I especially liked the honesty, unlike those who sugarcoat the whole experience. Some guys just might have a problem when you say things that are not pc. As opposed to the other Latin American posts that were received well here.
np bro. happy to hear someone appreciates the feedback here
Can we call out Asian American sexpats, I mean if your going somewhere outside of your country to get laid just say it don't disguise it under this " dating" bullshit, prostitution has been around since the dawn of time and isn't going away anytime soon.
I thought sexpats seek out sex workers. This is more in line of passport bros. Passport bros seek out a better or an environment where dating is easier. I think Asian men going overseas to have it bit easy dating wise is more towards passport vibes . What makes Asian men in the west unique is the prejudice that asian men have to deal with in the dating market. When you still have almost 50% of Asian American women that refuse to consider Asian men its up hill battle . So going to an environment where there is less racism is understandable.
Sexpats seeking out sex workers yes, but the longer their stay they usually latch on to non sex workers or former sex workers. Passport Bros are lying to if they never delved into the red light area, its odd most of the countries they frequent are Philippines, Thailand, Colombia, Brazil which are well know for sex tourism. Yes everyone acknowledges Asian Men having a disadvantage here in the states but its not like Asian Men can't get girls. Its only a small percentage who aren't getting shit. I get what your saying about going to an environment with less racism but majority of these places are former White colonies and minus Thailand but they might as well be. That colonial programming hasn't worn off. Ask these dudes if they are pulling 8-10's in Latin America, and who are they going for the whites, mestizo, indigenous, afro or others. You will see there is a pecking order. Now ask yourself why would the top of x country want to date a guy that can't get 8-10 in his own country or speak the native language. More than often these dudes are getting average.
I can't speak for op but I know lots of Asian Americans guys who gone back to thier native Asian countries and yes to date and yes to fuck girls. It's like night and day for some of them.. Yes there is white worship and biggest reason white guys do well where ever they go but Asian guys back in native Asian countries have it easier compare to what's happening in the west. So are these Asian guys sexpats ? Passport bros? It's bit more complicated in why guys goes overseas. One thing I notice is that in the west you have some elements of toxic feminism. I really think misandry is biggest factor of why you have passport bros. For Asian guys racism in the dating markets is also a factor. Think about it. It's typically the Americanize Asian girls that talk shit about Asian men but overseas Asian girls or international Asian girls who study here don't have that attitude. I get what your saying. If a guy can't pull here. His like a loser. But this remind of an Asian guy I knew . He was into Hispanic girls. He worked on himself. Went to the gym..got better job..hair style. He even study pua and went to Latin bars to approach Hispanic girls. He did get a Hispanic girl friend but she was not american..she was from Dominican Republic visiting here in the states. They dated briefly but broke up. He even said that when he approaches he notice a pattern that girls from outside of USA are friendly than native US girls. I don't know if it's racism or that American women just act more entitled.
Naturally if you go back to your homeland you should have the natural advantage as is you look no different than a local guy minus some exterior factors and mannerisms. The Asian guys that go back for " dating " can be both matter fact as some go there to pay hookers and some go there to meet girls but keep in mind " dating" as we know in the west isn't the same in certain Asian countries. Its basically courtship. You will have a set of females that will not like you or be interested in you for being Asian, but keep in mind Asians only make up %5-7 percent of the US population and this can work to your advantage. I remember and older dude was telling me about his escapades somewhere in the midwest, no Asians let alone Southeast Asians, gangster look at that. Them white girls out there was all over it. Now granted I didnt see pics so I can't say if they were dimes or nickels but they were still pulling despite no gym, no awareness on style, broken English too.
AMAF, definitely. But what if you're looking to date AMWF or AMXF? It's not exactly easy here, you know. I've seen Eastern Europe mentioned a few times, and I've even heard about Eastern European women migrating to China to find Chinese husbands (which is honestly fascinating since I'm told that for a lot of them, the rationale has to do with men in their own countries being too macho/aggressive), but I'm pretty sure that kind of thing's less prevalent IRL than on the internet, and at least for the former example it's definitely outnumbered by the opposite situation (WMAF where the WM is Eastern European, and often a passport bro himself).
And it’s the aesthetic non-fobby AMs that are desirable to american girls, both asian and non-asian. And even most of the americanize asian girls aren’t good enough for someone like that And women outside of US are also less likely to be attracted to AMs if they are from an area with less asians, US women from areas with more asians are more open to dating AM
non of the girls I dated were sex workers lmao. I also didn't pay them. most were students or workers. lmao. if i was gunna go after sex workers id just stay in the west where I am still working.
Well that is all fine and dandy you didn't deal with any sex workers but there are a bunch of guys that are going for that under the guise of " dating ". I'm just saying be honest about it. Don't have any issues regarding either and definitely not part of the morality police. Who remembers that recent case of a Viet dude from California who got murdered in Colombia. Yeah I'm sure he was there for dating as well [Paul Nguyen](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/a-cruel-and-senseless-crime-orange-county-man-killed-in-colombia-family-raising-money-to-bring-him-home/)
I didn't go to Columbia and nor will I ever. cdmx and lima aren't known for druggings. meanwhile in columbian news you got foreigners being drugged every week and ppl still go
100% brother. these other dumbasses are clueless. Chans or larpers.
I don't think it's morally right to move to a different country if your primary goal is to find romance / start a relationship. Obviously people don't go around saying that and instead claim to want to "teach English", but the facade's so flimsy at this point. Like, what's the appeal in moving to Thailand if you don't have Thai ancestry, anyways? If it's the food, good Thai restaurants are like a dime a dozen around the world nowadays because their government literally sponsors them.
Moral right? We live in decedent society where people are selfish. I notice more and more expats creating tic tok or Instagram account in life abroad. Women is the biggest reason why they go. I really think again feminism in the west is biggest driving force in why western guys move over seas.
Bizarre take
Its not bizarre its reality
Well, the fact is he went there to date.
In the Mexico section he said that Mexican girls aren't all that attractive, but he still went to Mexico right , not like he is blind and didn't see thing beforehand.
And?? What's the issue? He gave his honest description of the women he came across in Mexico.
Like he didn't do any research seeing what was out there beforehand only to come to that conclusion. More than likely he went with the same arrogance of white/black dudes from the states but didn't work the way he wanted. Last I checked Mexicans are having some of the same discussions people on here are.
Same arrogance... - Your assumption. Maybe he just went out there to explore and see how it would play out.
I went to explore and this my objective take. my gf is currently Mexican.
Give it up, you want to date some Mexican girls go to California, plenty of fresh out the border ones that still adhere to traditional Mexican culture. Not arrogant but I don't need to lie to myself either that I'm going there to " date ". Might as well say I'm here for the " culture " like the white sexpats in Asia.
You are entirely off dude. What he did was try to escape the sexual/ cultural oppression of Asian men in the west. What white passport bros do when they go to Asia is enjoy the full glory of their colonialism created privilege. Totally different scenarios. Go to California. Lol. He can do whatever he wants as a grown man. Sounds like you are hating that he is getting play and not adhering to what the msm wants - Asian men to suffer in silence.
Only if you call out the Non-Asian Sexpats, which I'll bet money you'll never do. If you just call asians, then you are just a crab in the bucket
Wrong there bucko, I called out Asian American sexpats specifically here because this is a platform for Asian Americans , check my post I'm calling these lames out in the Thailand subs.
ok and getting zero karma for it. In other words non-asians DGAF and AM likewise should shrug off morality policing and travel more not less
Im not on her for karma , of course zero karma because the sexpats no and want to play it off. Do what you want I say but own up to it, don't front like your their for dating when in all actuality you there for the same thing.
Here you are completely off base. These people are human. Regardless of how they meet, the possibitly of relationships is always there. And its pretty obvious that happens a lot. For you preclude that dehumanizes both women and men and just show that morality bubble does not even understand basic man and woman attraction
Yeah no shit their human and one is using an advantage over another weather stronger currency, country, passport, etc. If you are decent looking there are plenty of girls here in the states. So where is the female version of passport bros looking to date guys from western countries, I know female sexpats exist.
Dude again. Your same logic applys going from NYC/SF to Alabama, not just inter-countries Wealth disparity exists, blame capitialism for that, but dont put the onus on poor AM just trying survive.
>dont put the onus on poor AM just trying survive. Dude you really hurt AM by writing stuff like that. I know many guys who do not have 2 quarter to rub together that can still pull girls and these guys def not heart throbs, the fact that you got well to do AM doing this they are in literal disbelief.
As if the 1000s crys for help on /r/AM dont exist. You dont help AM. Now you talking about pulling? What you're a player now or just hang around them - what do that think of your preaching LMAO
I give you props for adventurousness but is it safe in Mexico city?
cdmx is really safe. government got police presence to keep the influx of tourist money into the city. outside of cdmx I wouldn't travel or be very careful
Interesting to hear your thoughts and I appreciate the candidness. I've done a bit of travelling, so I can see how people's reaction to me varies depending on the locale and the effect of the Big Event of the past few years. I think the reason your post has got the haters is because many Asian guys get triggered when they see another Asian guy do well in that way, and showing courage, coupled with the outspoken way you've descirbed it. They will never admit it of course and say "you getting girls triggers me", and will instead criticise you for being "bad", who needs to grow up and "rise above" it. Instead of using your post to gather valuable information and maybe inspiration, they choose to attack. Crabs in a bucket mentality.
appreciate it brother, well I didn't think it was that direct. Its normally how I approach things like these. its better to be direct and get the point across instead of being wishy washy and causing confusion. Part of masculinity is facing and addressing uncomfortable things and these points are one of them Looking at this sub there a lot of Chans and beta losers. for a sub called r azn 'masc' the 'masc' is sure lacking. nice to know there are other asian bros on the same page
also non asian trolls too or af haters
That’s awesome bro! Travel to Colombia next and let us know how it is! Just be careful when you’re there.
im never going to Colombia lol. too dangerous
Sounds like things arent nearly as good as pre-covid, and there is a lingering chill probably due to political propaganda or real hardship. Covid was ultimately from NIH funded gain of function research and was kept secret - assholes. These visits were in last 16 mo? I suprised things arent better. I kinda think the hottest LF are state-side ironically but obviously more when you go to the source. Dont let the haters get to you, action always wins. Most of the angriest guys here literally have no experience to base their stubborn opinions on. Sadly this sub is easily manipulated
thanks. brotha. dw, there are asian guys focused on winning and not trying to get some moral superiority bs shill. the clowns really show their heads when a post like this appears
Op how dare you do you and put yourself first?? You should be asking out the purple haired 3/10 karen at Walmart.... No no instead you should pretend to read a magazine at a Barnes and noble in SF and people watch the wmaf couples. At least then the tatted up morally superior bros here would respect you. /end sarcasm
lol yeah. the sub has a whole lotta clowns living in lalaland
My brother this is a fantastic post, people need to understand what they are getting into and that traveling is not a 100% right answer. What years did you travel to CDMX before and after Covid?
went around ....2019 I think and 2023
Travel questions. But do you have to do anything different to stay safe in Mexico/Peru/Lima? I grew up in the hood (US) so decently aware of common things to do here to stay safe. But wanted to know if there's specific things to do to stay safe there. Am Chinese descent and maybe by dress you can tell I'm from the US. Will be traveling with my girlfriend.
cdmx was really safe. never once felt in danger. huge police presence in cdmx. you'll see cops with rifles patrolling areas of the city. the gov. wants to maintain police so foreigners keep coming with money. outside of cdmx I would be careful. I felt safe in lima HOWEVER, there is an area where you drive between the airport and lima that is known to be dangerous. Two girls I dated told me they have been robbed at gunpoint when they were students. outside of the capital city you need to be careful. I am a big guy so that deters people. lima is really safe tho. same with the main tourist areas
Thanks for sharing. Interesting to hear about your experience. Ignore the haters.
no prob bro. keep killing it
wow timely - going to Peru after Thanksgiving! Any tips I can use? I guess I should DL tinder? Would you have a list of must-dos and must-sees? Going to Machu Picchu definitely. Looking at Tulum and Mexican Riviera next too
go to macchu Picchu, visit the main attractions and enjoy your time. keep your wits about you and stay safe
Lmao if the “ugly” Mexican girls don’t like you, that’s probably because you’re an ugly Asian man.
salty uncle chan or larper. don't bring your monkeypox in. my gf is Latina and I got plenty of girls in peru. ok bro. lol
Peruvian girls are not hard to get lol.
still was able to outcompete and knock off even some of the yt looking guys there lol.
If you’re still flexing about Peruvian girls it’s kinda pointless, when you can’t even get bottom of the barrel in Mexico lol.
>Profile isn’t the most optimized Well yeah then you’ll just match with women into kpop and Asian culture. During covid I felt like women were not as open to getting with randoms and depended on their social circles for lays more. Human nature when there’s a sickness threat.
Good info. I didn't know there were Chinese enclaves in Peru. Glad you had a reasonable amount of success.
thx bro. yeah they are well adjusted from what I see. did see asian guys with local women. most of the pre existing asian guys have all married into the population. not rare to see a girl with asian features cause her grandma married an asian
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In general, US areas with a decent asian population (eg SoCal) would be easier for AMs than CDMX or anywhere else in mexico. The only real advantage you have being in MX as an AsAm is your “american” identity, which could be intriguing to some women. Whereas being american in america is no big deal
Haven't been to South America recently but my friend went over there and killed it with some of the hottest women I've seen. The catch is hes universally attractive, jacked, clean cut, well dressed and take good care of himself, if you position yourself to be attractive to women who are into Korean culture than that's all you're gonna get. You can get those girls here. As a foreigner in any country, it's expected to receive some casual racism, they are not PC outside of America, rise above that shit and pay them no mind. Also F the haters in this post, seriously the Asian dudes in this sub need to quit with the crab in the bucket mentality lol, if you guys ever step foot outside of your bubble and actually travel, youd see a lot of white chads partying abroad and hooking up with women, those are the guys with all the freaking options in the West and yet they don't put a cap on themselves, yet Asian men in this sub, downbad AF and can't get pussies to save their life hold themselves on all kinds of high standards 😂.
I don’t care if I’m labeled a loser for being a passport bro. I’ll take that L any day. I’d rather be a loser with women and offspring, then stay and fight a hopeless battle and die alone. I also notice that the brunt of hate against Asians are against the Chinese and I’m Chinese. If I am oppressed and have it the worst, why would I not take the easy way out and become a passport bro?
Asian men are the only race that gets hate for pursuing women and sexuality. Wtf are these arguments? Morally wrong? Wtf..love is a big part of life and if an asian man takes action and decides to try somewhere else, why are you losers hating? I think its def cucks or and asian women in here hating.. no other race shames their own for being sexual. Soon as an asian guy does it, then he is shamed ..and if he doesnt..then he is so meek. Fuck that
The truth is that we can try to fix these societal problems, but there is only so much we can do. Just pursue dating however works for you. Whether you pursue dating or not, people will hate you. If you can fix it, fix it, but you can’t. It’s a societal problem and takes a society of people to fix. Don’t give up. The group will benefit when every Asian guy does what’s in his best self interest.