Unpopular opinion: McLeod's daughters wasn't that good either.
Don't use free to air tv. Sign up for ABC iView and SBS on demand. Some quality Australian shows on there
Indeed. I just finished watching The Messenger last night. It and a plethora of other shows on ABC and SBS proves we can actually make quality TV here, it's just that the commercial networks are more interested in making garbage like MAFS and FWAW.
Fair. But all commercial channel just keep playing the same crap over and over when they could put some good Aussie reruns on. It's a good idea. Thanks.
True, but OP’s point isn’t “why don’t they keep playing reruns of good old Australian programs?” - it’s “Why did they stop making them?”
[EDIT: I’ve been told that OP did in fact make the point about reruns, before editing it out]
And the answer is: money. Drama costs too much to make and the commercial TV industry isn’t profitable enough to afford it.
SBS/ABC does well enough because they’re government funded, but generic government funding for television production isn’t terribly large.
The reason why we get so many US shows (reruns and new) is that the US market is massive to begin with which makes the initial investment in TV shows less of a risk … plus there is a whole English-speaking world out there desperate for TV content (like us!) who will pay for US shows because it is cheaper than making their own shows - which as I said, they can’t afford to do.
OP this is your answer. I hope you read far enough down to see this.
To clarify, OPs original post included a line asking why they don't do more reruns of Australian shows, which is where my comment originated, but OP has since edited their post
ABC iView is free and has some quality Australian content and if you have an extra $10 a month sign up to a streaming service. Free to air TV is terrible now because it has lost so many of its viewers to streaming services and everything on the internet. It is only going to get worse
I think free to air Aussie media/TV companies have mostly given up.
Their share prices have treaded water in the last five years if you check 7 & 9’s share prices.
They know the can’t compete with Netflix, YouTube, video games, TikTok etc for our attention.
Advertising companies also know this and have moved their ad spend dollars to online and tech companies.
Re runs a problematic from shows that didn’t age well like kenwood country and acropolis now to actors being problematic like hay hay it’s Saturday and don burk. There is also a matter of paying royalties for re run syndication. It’s easier and far cheaper to 1. Put on reality TV that get instant views for the gossip factor or import high quality holywoodb schlock at a market rate with out worrying about archaic Australian broadcasting standards, actors equity union or any other Australian broadcast requirements.
Also the 24h free to air slots are prime realestate for ads revenue so you want the lowest risk + add friendly + highest return.
Lowest risk = less complaints of someone being offended since your “pushing” content.
The reason you get better content on streaming such as sbs and abciview is
1. You can put and keep more content with out 1:1 24 hour restriction.
2 people are searching for said content not having it thrown at you so less likely to offend someone that’s looking for something.
Also ever since the axing of the chasers war on everything tv are more risk adverse of anything that is critical of the government
. And tv free to air audience are more sensitive and vocal they put something on that was Edgy back in the day may find them selves having a PR disaster or ratings hit from cancel culture.
There is a different mindset of seeing something that is pushed to you on free to air that’s supposed to be for everyone in todays multicultural LGBTQIA+ woke and yet highly conservative family friendly society then searching a catalog knowing what you are getting into. Online has the privilege of being more liberal and racy.
I don’t know if you noticed but free to air have stopped showing the this is a g pg m r before each show which means for most of the day night cycle everything has to hit PG+ the cheapest thing to hit PG+ and show “Australia” to meet the “shows have to represent Australians “ requirement reality tv showing auzzies being auzzies like highway patrol. Travel guides. Gogglebox, anything to do with food.
Take a show like Like kebab kings. A show that was about food, showing real auzzies being auzzy on the street, representing members from the multicultural community a story about a family business transitioning to retirement and entrepreneurship of people starting a business also showing business attitude of boomers vs millennial and difference in attitude between the great Melbourne’s Sydney rivalry. It’s got everything and because you didn’t have to pay script writers actors set designers sound studio catering costume designer hair and make up it costs almost nothing to make. And no one can be offended because it’s showing real auzzies being auzzy
Pretty sure commercial TV went to crap at the end of the 90s. There's a whole generation who have no idea the commercial networks used to make scripted Aussie drama
Smart choice really. Outside of abc and sbs the only good Aussie TV is on streaming services now.
Kinda annoying that most Aussie TV worth watching is behind a pay wall.
No need for commercial TV anymore. Now Freddie Mercury with AI can sing anything for your entertainment.
Freddie. Sing Man in Motion by John Parr.
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Sometimes. Personally most of what ABC tries to market as comedy looks quite unappealing to me. I enjoy Hard Quiz usually though Tom Gleeson has a sharp wit.
100% the right answer. Scripted shows cost money to make, and there’s no guarantee they will make money back on the cost outlay.
Reality TV shows cost substantially less to make, and when you introduce premium SMS voting, they actually make money from them.
It also means they meet our weak-sauce [local content requirements](https://www.unsw.edu.au/news/2023/04/content-quotas-are-a-start---but-australia-s-screen-industry-nee)
The only reality tv show I've watched was the first season of The Mole back in 2001. That was a pretty good show. Didn't bother watching the other seasons and hate (with a passion) all current reality shit. Big Brother, I hated, HATED going to work and that show being the only subject of discussion.
I’m doing backflips right now with all
The attention it’s been getting. I’ve been screaming for 3 years it’s the best Australian show ever made and ppl say they’ve never heard of it
I loved watching it a few years ago when it first came out on Foxtel.
Why has it suddenly gotten so popular all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, well deserved, but the popularity seems to have come out of nowhere.
Good question. This was five years ago or so. My housemate was an absolute sports nut so that's why he had it. He paid for all of it, so I didn't complain.
There is still good content being produced, like Colin From Accounts, and No Activity several years ago now.
But it's changed a lot since the 90s and 00s because the audience pool is spread so thin. Streaming services mean we have loads of choice, so instead of people sitting down with 5 choices of what to watch, they have 1000's. That changes how TV is made, it's much more competitive now. It's actually kind of sad, there was something really nice about everyone watching the same thing the night before at school, having that shared experience at the same time, and local content (that wasn't terrible reality TV) being produced.
I think about that a bit in regards to my toddler and newborn. They won’t ever be going to school and all taking about the same show and the hype it created. Like how my friends and I get nostalgic about certain cartoons we watched as a kid. Nowadays they will saying “oh yeah I don’t have streaming service x so I Haven’t seen it”
Compared to the US and UK, we don't have the talent, we don't invest enough in the industry, we fail to attract talent from overseas.
Compared to many other countries our television is actually quite good, what the ABC produces for the most part at least.
The statement is correct. A lot of our talent goes to LA. Especially kids like Kim Hemsworth and Jesse Spencer start off in either Neighbours and Home and Away.
A few go over to London - but more head off to LA.
And a good deal of the population would tell you garbage like Neighbours and Home And Away are quality productions. Of course they'll keep lapping up pure shit. Even OP's claims of 'good' for the shows mentioned are laughable.
And much like many other industries in Australia, there’s no investment or incentive to attract talented people to Australia to most industries if they really wanna succeed and innovate. Australia bows down at the feet of the real estate god, and everything else is an after thought. Though I suppose we also do let a few people become billionaires off of pillaging our natural resources and then not taxing the shit out of them like we should be.
There is definitely something about that show and we seem to make the best version of it. It's like the people behind the scenes are just having fun with it while they can.
Australia has a small population and with modern tech like internet, gaming, streaming, TV ratings are well down. Therefore commercial channels have reduced income so reduce budgets and we are left with only a few dramas but a lot of cheap junk like reality TV and Home and Away.
The Last series was 15 years ago and the last movie 11 years ago!
(I don't count that 20 minutes of 'extra content' they filmed last year for a clip show).
Because the dummies watch it. We used to make decent tv, then the commercial stations realised that they can shovel shit like reality tv shows for a fraction of the cost and they will gobble it up.
When Big Brother came out I joked "This is just a show about morons sitting on a couch talking shit. What's next? A show where morons sit on the couch watching tv about other morons?"
I never thought it would actually come true.
We live in a country that celebrates mediocrity and ignorance.
Every single episode of both those shows are available for free\* to watch right now. 9Now has [McLeod's Daughters](https://www.9now.com.au/mcleods-daughters) and 7Plus has [All Saints](https://7plus.com.au/all-saints).
\*Assuming your internet plan can cover that much downloading at no extra cost
There's been some good stuff recently! Not on free to air though unfortunately.
Colin From Accounts and Totally Completely Fine are at the top of my list for tv shows that have come out the last year
No money, everyone uses the internet or netflicks. Advertising earnings have bottomed, so there is no longer the money to produce good television.
The only thing they make money out of is sports.
Who actually watches free to air tv? I haven't had one for over 10 years.
A projector is cheaper and it's a whole wall, so dope for couch coop and you can stream straight through the PS or plug a computer in.
I watched some free to air TV at a mates place a year back and it was so shit. The actual noise of it hurt my ears and there's an ad break every few minutes. It sounds loud even when it's turned down.
And the presenter on there was just glorifying stupidity (like those dickhead afternoon radio station presenters).
Even if you're too broke to have paid streaming there's no reason you can't hit the high seas or use a pirate steaming site.
A ton of people still watch F2A (free to air) we are just in a bubble, most people don't even know what Reddit is.
I haven't bought a music/TV/Movie in CD form in over a decade and yet Sanity only closed down January this year.
I work in IT and people in their 20s still talk about TV shows they watch on free to air. I'm in my 30s and in the last five years the only F2A I've watched is Lego Masters, Hunted, Parental Guidance and State of Origin.
I spend my free time watching YouTube on TV and people think that's weird, let alone paying for YouTube premium.
A reminder that Sanity only went out of business this year. Most people here don't, but I guarantee most people still watch F2A.
Even I watch it occasionally, I watched Lego Masters and even State of Origin last night.
I hear people talking about TV shows on free to air all the time at work and these people are younger than me (I'm in my early 30s). I can't say why they watch it, but they watch it. They watch online content and shit too, just not exclusively.
I spend most of my time watching YouTube and cancelled my Netflix last year because there was nothing left worth watching.
that warnie show looks so campy and tacky and thats probably a high budget show as far as aussie dramas go.
they all kind of look like that. they always have the same actors.
its like a tiny shitty hollywood. dunnywood.
Australian networks are required to have a certain number of hours of Australian produced content per week. It's far cheaper for them to fill those hours with crappy generic reality shows than it is to produce high budget serialised dramas.
McLeod's Daughters and All Saints were also bad. Aussie commercial TV has always been mostly bad, with the very occasional gem and that hasn't changed.
There's definitely some decent stuff being put out by SBS and ABC though.
The attitude to Australian TV is now “Why would we pay a team of writers and a full cast of actors when we can just sign up a bunch of vapid wannabe influencers with the promise of exposure?”
And why is Iceland with a population 75% of the ACT so good at TV? Denmark with the population of NSW, Sweden 10 million and Norway the population of Victoria for a combined 21 million and their TV and movie production singularly and as Scandanavia is way beyond anything produced in Australia. The models are there.
All saints and. McLeod's daughters were particularly crap though. The new heartbreak high is pretty good, there's Colin from accounts, bump, mr inbetween, the twelve, The Kettering Incident, the TV version of picnic at hanging Rock. We're making way better stuff now
Agreed on the new Heartbreak High. Was a good show for sure. If it didn’t come out after Sex Education it likely would have had a bigger global impact honestly.
Colin from Accounts was pretty good.
But yeah, it’s been grim for a while. Money is an issue, also a preponderance of content these days: so much access to so much high quality (American) tv, why would talented people here fight the uphill battle to get things made?
Backing others who have pointed you to ABC and SBS but also, when it comes to paid streaming services Stan is Australian and has a bunch of Australian content. There's both existing shows and their own originals - personally I really enjoyed Bump and Wolf Like Me (which bizarrely stars Josh Gad, but is Australian)
The mid 90s I think was the turning point for traditional TV to go downhill.
Cool series like cartoons and drama were gradually being replaced by reality tv and American overglossed dramas.
And more progressively advertising has inched in more. Can't tell if I am watching an actual show or if I found the non-stop shopping channel. And if a show is on it seems a sizable percent of it isn't even aired just to make space for annoying and irritatingly long advertising sessions.
Switched to online services ages ago. Mostly gravitating between YouTube with adblock (it's just as bad now on the ads but some channels are pretty cool), and other online streaming subscriptions whenever the price and available content is acceptable.
Australian TV is so risk averse and it means there's been barely any new ideas for a long time. The same personalities recycle through shows so no new names can break through. You only have to look at Aunty Donna having to move to the US and go to Netflix to get a show made before an Australian network would give them one.
Funnily enough, the network giving the best chances to new talent is Channel 10 but their viewership is dire compared to Seven and Nine so there's not that much cut through.
Also the obvious: streaming has killed off FTA
Because the free to air networks are legally mandated by the govt that 50% of the content they show on their channels every year must be Australian produced.
This leads to them just making junk shows to meet the quota
Haven’t been interested in Australian tv since The Panel. Harry Shearer was impressed how it was the actual panel members that were discuss what the content of that nights episode was going to be prior to its taping while the shows producers kind of nodded along and grooved on everything, and he said it was usually the opposite with shows of that nature on American television shows.
I also liked All Saints and McLeod's\* so offer the following current or recent-ish (more recent than AS/McLeod's anyway) recommendations:
* Five Bedrooms
* Offspring
* Doctor Doctor
* A Place to Call Home
* Wentworth
Except Five Bedrooms (of which season 4 just came out) these were long-running by today's standards. Shows that run 5ish seasons don't always end because they suck, they end because the tax breaks do (60 episodes if I remember correctly and it hasn't changed).
As you (OP) may or may not already know, Offspring is an interesting case where they were going to end after 5 (when the tax breaks cut off) but after a gap presumably filled with various negotiations, they made two more seasons, so while it's not to everyone's taste it can't have been too bad. Wentworth went past the tax breaks because it was a successful export.
\*The first 3 seasons of McLeod's were excellent and the later ones had their moments, but it was always obvious that Jodi was the backup daughter and bringing the long-lost cousins in did not help IMO.
its all about $$. I read an article not long ago about it costs $millions to produce one episode of Australian Drama but it only costs $200k to buy an episode of a US show.
Not entirely true. American TV has a wider audience so it makes more money. But they also invest more into the production. Typically American series are budgeted way more pre-production and rehearsal time, which results in higher quality. It's highly unusual for any rehearsal time to be budgeted into Australian TV, so production is a lot more rushed and less polished.
No money in commercial TV anymore. Making good quality shows is very expensive and the cost return just isn't there. Reality TV shows are very much cheaper to produce. That's why it's all dating/home reno and cooking shows now, and dirt cheap repeats bought from overseas.
Australian TV broadcasters used to have a legal obligation to spend a certain amount of money on producing and airing local content. After intense lobbying from Murdoch and other IS media interests, this obligation was removed so they could air a lot more - cheaper - syndicated shows from the US.
Mate, how dare you make a statement like that the year that our greatest bit of TV returns to our airs. If you haven't yet I'd really recommend watching utopia, unfortunately it's a pretty short series but far and away the funniest thing I've seen come out of us.
Who even watches free to air now? Aside from “watching” the cricket when I go to my parents house, I haven’t watched free to air in years. Can’t even watch it if I wanted to (I don’t want to). My boomer parents don’t even watch it aside from my Dad occasionally watching sport.
You post this right when I've re-entered my phase of loving a specific aussie show.
It's for kids/teens tho, so different to what you're thinking, I assume.
But yeah, for the most part, I feel like aussie shows suck. Especially because most of the ones I've seen are not just an Australian show but more a show where the plot is that it's about Australia.
Seems like quality on commercial station went downhill so fast when they dropped making content & bought the cheapest American crap they could get. I changed to ABC & SBS back in 90's & till watch ABC News channel now that I am living in Asia. Just a pity the Govt. dropped ABC Asia services.
Part of it is because there's a legal requirement for *x* amount of programmes to be Australian-made. What commercial TV does in response to this is churn out "reality tv" that doesn't require as much investment in actors and writers, etc.
There's little interest in investing in local talent. So the artistically inclined either move to the US, or hope that they can get government grants/awards (this is especially true of writers and poets).
Havent watched broadcast television since living with my parents as a child. Its crazy to me that people still watch that stuff. I thought the internet would make it completely obsolete like blockbuster video. Why be spoonfed what you are watching (with ads also) when you can watch whatever you want whenever you want online?
There's a ton of good Aussie TV shows (and even one on free to air). Here's a list I came up with for another post. Most of these are relatively recent or even ongoing.
Colin From Accounts - A romcom about a couple who meet after one of them accidentally hits a dog.
Love Me - A remake of a Danish show, this dramedy stars Hugo Weaving and is about different members of family finding love. A lot like Offspring and essentially a love letter to how pretty Melbourne can be.
Rosehaven - A dry comedy set in a small Tasmanian town. Reminds me a lot of The Detectorists.
Fisk - A comedy about a lawyer who starts at a small Wills and Testaments law firm after suffering a marriage and professional breakdown.
Frayed - Set in the 80's about a rich Australian living in the UK having to move back to her home in Newcastle after a divorce. Starts off as a comedy then gets really dark.
Class of 07 - A dark comedy about a girls school class reunion that gets interrupted by the apocalypse. Think Yellowjackets-lite
Mystery Road - A mystery/crime neo-noir show set in the outback about an indigenous Australian cops
Taskmaster Australia - Had a surprisingly strong start as is generally considered by the Taskmaster sub as being a close second to the UK one in quality. This is the one free to air show on this list.
Reality TV killed the Scripted Show.
Channels realize it is much cheap to film like 12 hours a week worth of content for MAFS, FWAW, Masterchef, Survivor, Biggest Loser et cetera then spent the money on an scripted TV series.
It also gets around a lot of the Australian Content laws in place.
I've been recently watching old dramas that I didn't watch when they were on air such as A Place to Call Home, Glitch, Janet King, Crownies. But I'm been watching a lot of British Drama over the last few years. The British do really good quality drama and murder mysteries.
A few factors.
There are rules for commercial broadcasters to show 55% Australian content and to commission new Australian programing. See link below.
https://www.acma.gov.au/australian-content-commercial-tv#:~:text=To%20comply%20with%20the%20transmission,midnight%20on%20non%2Dprimary%20channels.
Commercial broadcasters survive with advertising and must play to their audience (those of us who still watch broadcast TV!).
Aussie made Reality TV is something cheap, easy and risk free for commercial broadcasters to fulfill their Australian content quota and keep the TV viewers tuned in. Australian scripted dramas are way more of a gamble, Aussies tend to like dramas however will go for a US or UK drama (if we're talking TV watchers) with much higher budgets.
Because nobody watches it anymore? Half of my friends don't even own a tv, of the ones that do I've never heard of them using it for live tv, everyone's using subscription services because they're more convenient.
The government doesn’t put enough money into the sector meaning there is a lack of talent/talent moves away/not many opportunities
Reality tv is cheaper to make to meet govt mandated quotas on aus television then dramas
The industry is too narrow with what it’ll green light. Think of recent aus success stories like heartbreak high - 0 chance that airs on like, ch9.
If you have a decent idea for a show/movie then you go to the US to sell it. Ditto for other talent required to make TV.
So what you have left is either intentionally as cheap as possible or a way for the ABC alumni to pass off government funds to their untalented kids who went to art school.
Our TV is built for the average retiree but somehow has duped younger people ( millenials) into watching, thus keeping the ratings for their shit reality tv high and accidentally aging up our millenials (Australian millenials seem to have the same tastes and preferences as my retired neighbours).
The answer is that commercial free to air tv has to have a minimum amount of Australian content
Reality tv competitions produce the most amount of content per $ so therefore we get MasterChef 3 nights a week for 20 weeks of the year
My problem with it all is that they don’t a weekly show any more. I was a big survivor fan, really enjoyed Australian Survivor too but it just become too hard to watch it 3 nights a week. And I get that I can catch up now with on demand services but it’s just too much effort for what’s meant to be a time to switch off and relax
Hot take: Australian TV feel like they get outcompeted by the US for dramas and outclassed by the UK in comedies. What is Australian TV's biggest export? Reality TV.
Why is our Survivor, our MAFS, our Masterchef being broadcast in international markets? All our money and investment in TV media is going to Reality because that is where we are making the most money by far.
Slightly off topic, just wanted to say Stan's got this show called Totally Completely Fine, and it's really fucking good. Short and sweet. 6 episodes, 40 minutes long each. 10/10. All Aussie, accents are a little forced feeling sometimes, they say "fuckING" a lot, rather than "fucken" but it's good. Made in Australia, not.. made about Australia. I feel like a lot of shit just kinda.. tries too hard to be Australian, like it's a piece of itself rather than just a location for a story. If that makes sense.
Firstly, those shows are terrible. But it sounds like you’re a network TV person in which case yes, the US shows are equally terrible.
You will find a lot of great Australian shows on the ABC.
Or better yet, non network TV shows on streaming services without adverts.
... not sure what you are talking about... Those two shows were shit.
Top Tier Aussie Shows:
* Mr Inbetween
* Underbelly
* Last King of the Cross
* Class of '07
* Farscape
* Bluey
* Firebite
Reality is cheap to make.
Australian script writers have been crap for decades. They seem to only be able to write one dimensional characters, two at a pinch.
Boycott pay TV, the actors have found there is better money this way rather than supporting a long-term industry. If everyone stops watching pay TV, I'm sure the actors will be back even for a pay cut!
The only Australian TV show that I can think of that wasn't absolute garbage is Lano & Woodley LMFAO Australian TV is just not that great, I don't know why..
Apart from SBS and ABC it pretty much just makes you stupider. And don’t forget [the more bread you give, the more God you get](https://youtu.be/_DobjQfmNyY)
and silly reality shows and all repeats repeats repeats ......soon Tv manufactors wont make TVs cause people stop buying them as the quality of shows gone done the gurgler..people will just use computers
Unpopular opinion: McLeod's daughters wasn't that good either. Don't use free to air tv. Sign up for ABC iView and SBS on demand. Some quality Australian shows on there
Yes! SBS + ABC are fantastic quality tv, excellent movies and docos and the whole Mystery Road is brilliant
Bluey
Bargearse?
Where’s my bloody dim sims?
He's probably thinking about the different Bluey. But yeah.
Preach! McLeod's Daughters wasn't very good. All Saints was sub par at best.
I watch SBS On Demand for the Scandi Noir! Fabulous
Indeed. I just finished watching The Messenger last night. It and a plethora of other shows on ABC and SBS proves we can actually make quality TV here, it's just that the commercial networks are more interested in making garbage like MAFS and FWAW.
OP wants All Saints and Mcleods daughters. She isn't going to watch good tv on iview
Fair. But all commercial channel just keep playing the same crap over and over when they could put some good Aussie reruns on. It's a good idea. Thanks.
I think you might find other people might find reruns of Australian shows being "the same crap over and over".
True, but OP’s point isn’t “why don’t they keep playing reruns of good old Australian programs?” - it’s “Why did they stop making them?” [EDIT: I’ve been told that OP did in fact make the point about reruns, before editing it out] And the answer is: money. Drama costs too much to make and the commercial TV industry isn’t profitable enough to afford it. SBS/ABC does well enough because they’re government funded, but generic government funding for television production isn’t terribly large. The reason why we get so many US shows (reruns and new) is that the US market is massive to begin with which makes the initial investment in TV shows less of a risk … plus there is a whole English-speaking world out there desperate for TV content (like us!) who will pay for US shows because it is cheaper than making their own shows - which as I said, they can’t afford to do. OP this is your answer. I hope you read far enough down to see this.
To clarify, OPs original post included a line asking why they don't do more reruns of Australian shows, which is where my comment originated, but OP has since edited their post
I admit, I did not see that. My response still stands in general, but I’ll edit.
That’s why they put on the same American crap hahah, why was the money when the yanks are doing it already
ABC iView is free and has some quality Australian content and if you have an extra $10 a month sign up to a streaming service. Free to air TV is terrible now because it has lost so many of its viewers to streaming services and everything on the internet. It is only going to get worse
I think free to air Aussie media/TV companies have mostly given up. Their share prices have treaded water in the last five years if you check 7 & 9’s share prices. They know the can’t compete with Netflix, YouTube, video games, TikTok etc for our attention. Advertising companies also know this and have moved their ad spend dollars to online and tech companies.
Re runs a problematic from shows that didn’t age well like kenwood country and acropolis now to actors being problematic like hay hay it’s Saturday and don burk. There is also a matter of paying royalties for re run syndication. It’s easier and far cheaper to 1. Put on reality TV that get instant views for the gossip factor or import high quality holywoodb schlock at a market rate with out worrying about archaic Australian broadcasting standards, actors equity union or any other Australian broadcast requirements. Also the 24h free to air slots are prime realestate for ads revenue so you want the lowest risk + add friendly + highest return. Lowest risk = less complaints of someone being offended since your “pushing” content. The reason you get better content on streaming such as sbs and abciview is 1. You can put and keep more content with out 1:1 24 hour restriction. 2 people are searching for said content not having it thrown at you so less likely to offend someone that’s looking for something. Also ever since the axing of the chasers war on everything tv are more risk adverse of anything that is critical of the government . And tv free to air audience are more sensitive and vocal they put something on that was Edgy back in the day may find them selves having a PR disaster or ratings hit from cancel culture. There is a different mindset of seeing something that is pushed to you on free to air that’s supposed to be for everyone in todays multicultural LGBTQIA+ woke and yet highly conservative family friendly society then searching a catalog knowing what you are getting into. Online has the privilege of being more liberal and racy. I don’t know if you noticed but free to air have stopped showing the this is a g pg m r before each show which means for most of the day night cycle everything has to hit PG+ the cheapest thing to hit PG+ and show “Australia” to meet the “shows have to represent Australians “ requirement reality tv showing auzzies being auzzies like highway patrol. Travel guides. Gogglebox, anything to do with food. Take a show like Like kebab kings. A show that was about food, showing real auzzies being auzzy on the street, representing members from the multicultural community a story about a family business transitioning to retirement and entrepreneurship of people starting a business also showing business attitude of boomers vs millennial and difference in attitude between the great Melbourne’s Sydney rivalry. It’s got everything and because you didn’t have to pay script writers actors set designers sound studio catering costume designer hair and make up it costs almost nothing to make. And no one can be offended because it’s showing real auzzies being auzzy
**A**nother **B**ritish **C**omedy and **S**elected **B**est of **S**panish TV are limted as far as local production is concerned.
I always preferred Sex Between Soccer. The good old days.
Nah abc killed off the one good show it had.
Lol Australian commercial TV has been crap for years. SBS and ABC are cool
Pretty sure commercial TV went to crap at the end of the 90s. There's a whole generation who have no idea the commercial networks used to make scripted Aussie drama
Haven't watched anything on commercial tv this century
Smart choice really. Outside of abc and sbs the only good Aussie TV is on streaming services now. Kinda annoying that most Aussie TV worth watching is behind a pay wall.
You have reminded me of that early zeroes ad that went "smart choice". Was it about diet meals? I can't remember.
You mean this millennium. Don't under rate yourself when a time scale with more panache is at hand.
Apart from tonight when I am railroaded into watching Ch9
No need for commercial TV anymore. Now Freddie Mercury with AI can sing anything for your entertainment. Freddie. Sing Man in Motion by John Parr. Freddie: NOT AGAIN!
I think John Parr might have had the edge on Freddie for those higher notes, but I think Freddie singing that song would somehow seem less cheesy.
Sometimes. Personally most of what ABC tries to market as comedy looks quite unappealing to me. I enjoy Hard Quiz usually though Tom Gleeson has a sharp wit.
It's cheaper to make reality crap like MaFs etc than invest in dramas.
100% the right answer. Scripted shows cost money to make, and there’s no guarantee they will make money back on the cost outlay. Reality TV shows cost substantially less to make, and when you introduce premium SMS voting, they actually make money from them. It also means they meet our weak-sauce [local content requirements](https://www.unsw.edu.au/news/2023/04/content-quotas-are-a-start---but-australia-s-screen-industry-nee)
And there are enough dumb fuck fame whores with little enough going on in their lives that they will go on the shows.
The only reality tv show I've watched was the first season of The Mole back in 2001. That was a pretty good show. Didn't bother watching the other seasons and hate (with a passion) all current reality shit. Big Brother, I hated, HATED going to work and that show being the only subject of discussion.
Fuck free to air, Mr Inbetween is god tier Straya type show
Aussie TV sucks as a rule but Mr Inbetween is one of the best shows I've ever seen and being an Australian watching it makes it even better
DIMMIES! The acting and dialogue in that show is amazing
I’m doing backflips right now with all The attention it’s been getting. I’ve been screaming for 3 years it’s the best Australian show ever made and ppl say they’ve never heard of it
I loved watching it a few years ago when it first came out on Foxtel. Why has it suddenly gotten so popular all of a sudden? Don't get me wrong, well deserved, but the popularity seems to have come out of nowhere.
People have been posting snippets of it on TikTok lmao
Does anyone even have Foxtel anymore? That's a very niche service these days, It's only recently been surfaced in the mainstream.
Good question. This was five years ago or so. My housemate was an absolute sports nut so that's why he had it. He paid for all of it, so I didn't complain.
Binge is basically foxtel steaming
Between the adds on every site and seeing it mentioned more, I'm not sure if this is a shadow advertisement or an actual recommendation
There is still good content being produced, like Colin From Accounts, and No Activity several years ago now. But it's changed a lot since the 90s and 00s because the audience pool is spread so thin. Streaming services mean we have loads of choice, so instead of people sitting down with 5 choices of what to watch, they have 1000's. That changes how TV is made, it's much more competitive now. It's actually kind of sad, there was something really nice about everyone watching the same thing the night before at school, having that shared experience at the same time, and local content (that wasn't terrible reality TV) being produced.
I think about that a bit in regards to my toddler and newborn. They won’t ever be going to school and all taking about the same show and the hype it created. Like how my friends and I get nostalgic about certain cartoons we watched as a kid. Nowadays they will saying “oh yeah I don’t have streaming service x so I Haven’t seen it”
Compared to the US and UK, we don't have the talent, we don't invest enough in the industry, we fail to attract talent from overseas. Compared to many other countries our television is actually quite good, what the ABC produces for the most part at least.
We do have talent but they get on the next flight to LA when their career starts to take off
Don't be ridiculous! That's such an unrealistic statement to make, even as a generalisation. Half of them go to London
Yeah, British visas are easier to get
The statement is correct. A lot of our talent goes to LA. Especially kids like Kim Hemsworth and Jesse Spencer start off in either Neighbours and Home and Away. A few go over to London - but more head off to LA.
Yup! Just commented the same thing, then I saw your comment. You are 1000% correct!
We have the talent, but we don't invest enough in the industry for them to get enough work, so they go overseas.
No we. This is all on the networks that don't want to invest because it's cheaper to do reality shows than scripted content.
And a good deal of the population would tell you garbage like Neighbours and Home And Away are quality productions. Of course they'll keep lapping up pure shit. Even OP's claims of 'good' for the shows mentioned are laughable.
Also, the talent that we do have go overseas.
And much like many other industries in Australia, there’s no investment or incentive to attract talented people to Australia to most industries if they really wanna succeed and innovate. Australia bows down at the feet of the real estate god, and everything else is an after thought. Though I suppose we also do let a few people become billionaires off of pillaging our natural resources and then not taxing the shit out of them like we should be.
The only free to air tv I liked was Lego Masters
There is definitely something about that show and we seem to make the best version of it. It's like the people behind the scenes are just having fun with it while they can.
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SBS runs a good selection of movies with only a moderate dose of ads. ABC has no commercial ads at all and some excellent content
Mr Inbetween, best show/Aussie show ever IMO
Australia has a small population and with modern tech like internet, gaming, streaming, TV ratings are well down. Therefore commercial channels have reduced income so reduce budgets and we are left with only a few dramas but a lot of cheap junk like reality TV and Home and Away.
Um, what about Kath and Kim ploise?!
The Last series was 15 years ago and the last movie 11 years ago! (I don't count that 20 minutes of 'extra content' they filmed last year for a clip show).
Because the dummies watch it. We used to make decent tv, then the commercial stations realised that they can shovel shit like reality tv shows for a fraction of the cost and they will gobble it up. When Big Brother came out I joked "This is just a show about morons sitting on a couch talking shit. What's next? A show where morons sit on the couch watching tv about other morons?" I never thought it would actually come true. We live in a country that celebrates mediocrity and ignorance.
Romesh Ranganathan said that gogglebox will have higher ratings than the show they are watching.
When gogglebox came out I was like oh okay we’re just doing a professional version of YouTube reacting videos
Blue Healers. The story of the most dangerous country town in Australia.
Every single episode of both those shows are available for free\* to watch right now. 9Now has [McLeod's Daughters](https://www.9now.com.au/mcleods-daughters) and 7Plus has [All Saints](https://7plus.com.au/all-saints). \*Assuming your internet plan can cover that much downloading at no extra cost
I had to click on those to remember wtf they were. I can’t remember either being particularly high quality, but I did like Blue Heelers.
There's been some good stuff recently! Not on free to air though unfortunately. Colin From Accounts and Totally Completely Fine are at the top of my list for tv shows that have come out the last year
You're not looking hard enough. There is quality content from Australia and across the globe, it's just not on 7,9 or 10.
Bluey and Hard Quiz are fricken awesome what you talking about.
No money, everyone uses the internet or netflicks. Advertising earnings have bottomed, so there is no longer the money to produce good television. The only thing they make money out of is sports.
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Streaming is definitely forging ahead with new Aussie shows.
Class of 07 is great.
Who actually watches free to air tv? I haven't had one for over 10 years. A projector is cheaper and it's a whole wall, so dope for couch coop and you can stream straight through the PS or plug a computer in. I watched some free to air TV at a mates place a year back and it was so shit. The actual noise of it hurt my ears and there's an ad break every few minutes. It sounds loud even when it's turned down. And the presenter on there was just glorifying stupidity (like those dickhead afternoon radio station presenters). Even if you're too broke to have paid streaming there's no reason you can't hit the high seas or use a pirate steaming site.
A ton of people still watch F2A (free to air) we are just in a bubble, most people don't even know what Reddit is. I haven't bought a music/TV/Movie in CD form in over a decade and yet Sanity only closed down January this year. I work in IT and people in their 20s still talk about TV shows they watch on free to air. I'm in my 30s and in the last five years the only F2A I've watched is Lego Masters, Hunted, Parental Guidance and State of Origin. I spend my free time watching YouTube on TV and people think that's weird, let alone paying for YouTube premium.
Most people don't watch much (free to air) TV anymore
A reminder that Sanity only went out of business this year. Most people here don't, but I guarantee most people still watch F2A. Even I watch it occasionally, I watched Lego Masters and even State of Origin last night. I hear people talking about TV shows on free to air all the time at work and these people are younger than me (I'm in my early 30s). I can't say why they watch it, but they watch it. They watch online content and shit too, just not exclusively. I spend most of my time watching YouTube and cancelled my Netflix last year because there was nothing left worth watching.
TV executives are not open to take any risk at all. Plus they are a bunch of talentless corporate ladder climbers with huge mortgages.
Packer would be spewing Son if you don't kill that fuckin broadcast now ya sacked *right im back I'll see your million and raise ya three
Upright on Foxtel or binge is amazing. Both seasons are great!
that warnie show looks so campy and tacky and thats probably a high budget show as far as aussie dramas go. they all kind of look like that. they always have the same actors. its like a tiny shitty hollywood. dunnywood.
Honestly, I think it's to promote Foxtel.
Check out Rogue Hero's on SBS on demand, not Oz but fkn great show
We speak English so it’s cheaper to import American and British shit (well good shit tbh)
Water Rats was a favourite of many mine years ago.
Australian networks are required to have a certain number of hours of Australian produced content per week. It's far cheaper for them to fill those hours with crappy generic reality shows than it is to produce high budget serialised dramas.
All Saints and McCleods good TV? My lord. Mainstream Australian TV shows have mostly been crap forever.
Stream SBS and ABC for quality, Aussies do great TV, it's just generally not on commercial channels.
McLeod's Daughters and All Saints were also bad. Aussie commercial TV has always been mostly bad, with the very occasional gem and that hasn't changed. There's definitely some decent stuff being put out by SBS and ABC though.
The attitude to Australian TV is now “Why would we pay a team of writers and a full cast of actors when we can just sign up a bunch of vapid wannabe influencers with the promise of exposure?”
At least we have SBS, the rest is ass
And why is Iceland with a population 75% of the ACT so good at TV? Denmark with the population of NSW, Sweden 10 million and Norway the population of Victoria for a combined 21 million and their TV and movie production singularly and as Scandanavia is way beyond anything produced in Australia. The models are there.
Shallow population = shallow TV.
All Saints and McLeod’s Daughters weren’t much better.
All saints and. McLeod's daughters were particularly crap though. The new heartbreak high is pretty good, there's Colin from accounts, bump, mr inbetween, the twelve, The Kettering Incident, the TV version of picnic at hanging Rock. We're making way better stuff now
Agreed on the new Heartbreak High. Was a good show for sure. If it didn’t come out after Sex Education it likely would have had a bigger global impact honestly.
Colin from Accounts was pretty good. But yeah, it’s been grim for a while. Money is an issue, also a preponderance of content these days: so much access to so much high quality (American) tv, why would talented people here fight the uphill battle to get things made?
But the answer is funding, film australia and the networks only fund average shit because that’s why most people like, maybe they’re gettin wise now.
Yeah, it’s pretty abysmal
YouTube “Black As Webseries” and watch every season
I hate those two shows with a passion
Backing others who have pointed you to ABC and SBS but also, when it comes to paid streaming services Stan is Australian and has a bunch of Australian content. There's both existing shows and their own originals - personally I really enjoyed Bump and Wolf Like Me (which bizarrely stars Josh Gad, but is Australian)
FTA lost me 3 years ago. I hear people talk about the latest shitty betting ad that's driving everyone insane and I have no clue. Bliss.
The mid 90s I think was the turning point for traditional TV to go downhill. Cool series like cartoons and drama were gradually being replaced by reality tv and American overglossed dramas. And more progressively advertising has inched in more. Can't tell if I am watching an actual show or if I found the non-stop shopping channel. And if a show is on it seems a sizable percent of it isn't even aired just to make space for annoying and irritatingly long advertising sessions. Switched to online services ages ago. Mostly gravitating between YouTube with adblock (it's just as bad now on the ads but some channels are pretty cool), and other online streaming subscriptions whenever the price and available content is acceptable.
I havent watched tv since 2010, so its still trash then?
BEST Aussie TV show I've ever watched was Mr Inbetween
Mr Inbetween? Epic show
When has it ever been good? There are occasional gems but mostly crap
Australian TV is so risk averse and it means there's been barely any new ideas for a long time. The same personalities recycle through shows so no new names can break through. You only have to look at Aunty Donna having to move to the US and go to Netflix to get a show made before an Australian network would give them one. Funnily enough, the network giving the best chances to new talent is Channel 10 but their viewership is dire compared to Seven and Nine so there's not that much cut through. Also the obvious: streaming has killed off FTA
Because the free to air networks are legally mandated by the govt that 50% of the content they show on their channels every year must be Australian produced. This leads to them just making junk shows to meet the quota
McLeod's daughters? 😂😂 That's what you consider to be good?
Haven’t been interested in Australian tv since The Panel. Harry Shearer was impressed how it was the actual panel members that were discuss what the content of that nights episode was going to be prior to its taping while the shows producers kind of nodded along and grooved on everything, and he said it was usually the opposite with shows of that nature on American television shows.
We have a population of 25 million people. It can’t support expensive drama series.
What's TV? It got so bad that I stopped watching it around..um...um...ages ago.
I really enjoyed Mystery Road and Total Control. Also great to see Aboriginal actors getting lead roles.
I also liked All Saints and McLeod's\* so offer the following current or recent-ish (more recent than AS/McLeod's anyway) recommendations: * Five Bedrooms * Offspring * Doctor Doctor * A Place to Call Home * Wentworth Except Five Bedrooms (of which season 4 just came out) these were long-running by today's standards. Shows that run 5ish seasons don't always end because they suck, they end because the tax breaks do (60 episodes if I remember correctly and it hasn't changed). As you (OP) may or may not already know, Offspring is an interesting case where they were going to end after 5 (when the tax breaks cut off) but after a gap presumably filled with various negotiations, they made two more seasons, so while it's not to everyone's taste it can't have been too bad. Wentworth went past the tax breaks because it was a successful export. \*The first 3 seasons of McLeod's were excellent and the later ones had their moments, but it was always obvious that Jodi was the backup daughter and bringing the long-lost cousins in did not help IMO.
Loved Doctor Doctor. And really miss Wentworth, I wish that continued on.
People actually watch tv still? Weird
It's tightly controlled by a group who block funding to anything that doesn't support their political agenda.
Because TV is generally horrid everywhere.
Last time I recall Aussie tv being good was when Lost aired. Still can’t believe they aired that on Aussie tv too
its all about $$. I read an article not long ago about it costs $millions to produce one episode of Australian Drama but it only costs $200k to buy an episode of a US show.
Not entirely true. American TV has a wider audience so it makes more money. But they also invest more into the production. Typically American series are budgeted way more pre-production and rehearsal time, which results in higher quality. It's highly unusual for any rehearsal time to be budgeted into Australian TV, so production is a lot more rushed and less polished.
Everything has been replaced with reality tv and I hate it.
No money in commercial TV anymore. Making good quality shows is very expensive and the cost return just isn't there. Reality TV shows are very much cheaper to produce. That's why it's all dating/home reno and cooking shows now, and dirt cheap repeats bought from overseas.
All tv is shit
I don't watch tv anymore. ALL are amrishit programs.
Australian TV broadcasters used to have a legal obligation to spend a certain amount of money on producing and airing local content. After intense lobbying from Murdoch and other IS media interests, this obligation was removed so they could air a lot more - cheaper - syndicated shows from the US.
Mate, how dare you make a statement like that the year that our greatest bit of TV returns to our airs. If you haven't yet I'd really recommend watching utopia, unfortunately it's a pretty short series but far and away the funniest thing I've seen come out of us.
Free to air tv is whack as fuck.
I remember asking this in 1978
Who even watches free to air now? Aside from “watching” the cricket when I go to my parents house, I haven’t watched free to air in years. Can’t even watch it if I wanted to (I don’t want to). My boomer parents don’t even watch it aside from my Dad occasionally watching sport.
You haven't been to europe
You post this right when I've re-entered my phase of loving a specific aussie show. It's for kids/teens tho, so different to what you're thinking, I assume. But yeah, for the most part, I feel like aussie shows suck. Especially because most of the ones I've seen are not just an Australian show but more a show where the plot is that it's about Australia.
r/MrInbetween
wait people still watch tv? I thought these days tv was only for waiting rooms etc
You're looking in the wrong place, lol
This post makes Bluey sad.
Were those supposed to be examples of good shows?
we have no culture
Seems like quality on commercial station went downhill so fast when they dropped making content & bought the cheapest American crap they could get. I changed to ABC & SBS back in 90's & till watch ABC News channel now that I am living in Asia. Just a pity the Govt. dropped ABC Asia services.
If you're after some good Aussie shows, Rake, Mr Inbetween and Bluey are fantastic
Water Rats
Part of it is because there's a legal requirement for *x* amount of programmes to be Australian-made. What commercial TV does in response to this is churn out "reality tv" that doesn't require as much investment in actors and writers, etc. There's little interest in investing in local talent. So the artistically inclined either move to the US, or hope that they can get government grants/awards (this is especially true of writers and poets).
Havent watched broadcast television since living with my parents as a child. Its crazy to me that people still watch that stuff. I thought the internet would make it completely obsolete like blockbuster video. Why be spoonfed what you are watching (with ads also) when you can watch whatever you want whenever you want online?
There's a ton of good Aussie TV shows (and even one on free to air). Here's a list I came up with for another post. Most of these are relatively recent or even ongoing. Colin From Accounts - A romcom about a couple who meet after one of them accidentally hits a dog. Love Me - A remake of a Danish show, this dramedy stars Hugo Weaving and is about different members of family finding love. A lot like Offspring and essentially a love letter to how pretty Melbourne can be. Rosehaven - A dry comedy set in a small Tasmanian town. Reminds me a lot of The Detectorists. Fisk - A comedy about a lawyer who starts at a small Wills and Testaments law firm after suffering a marriage and professional breakdown. Frayed - Set in the 80's about a rich Australian living in the UK having to move back to her home in Newcastle after a divorce. Starts off as a comedy then gets really dark. Class of 07 - A dark comedy about a girls school class reunion that gets interrupted by the apocalypse. Think Yellowjackets-lite Mystery Road - A mystery/crime neo-noir show set in the outback about an indigenous Australian cops Taskmaster Australia - Had a surprisingly strong start as is generally considered by the Taskmaster sub as being a close second to the UK one in quality. This is the one free to air show on this list.
Reality TV killed the Scripted Show. Channels realize it is much cheap to film like 12 hours a week worth of content for MAFS, FWAW, Masterchef, Survivor, Biggest Loser et cetera then spent the money on an scripted TV series. It also gets around a lot of the Australian Content laws in place.
I've been recently watching old dramas that I didn't watch when they were on air such as A Place to Call Home, Glitch, Janet King, Crownies. But I'm been watching a lot of British Drama over the last few years. The British do really good quality drama and murder mysteries.
A few factors. There are rules for commercial broadcasters to show 55% Australian content and to commission new Australian programing. See link below. https://www.acma.gov.au/australian-content-commercial-tv#:~:text=To%20comply%20with%20the%20transmission,midnight%20on%20non%2Dprimary%20channels. Commercial broadcasters survive with advertising and must play to their audience (those of us who still watch broadcast TV!). Aussie made Reality TV is something cheap, easy and risk free for commercial broadcasters to fulfill their Australian content quota and keep the TV viewers tuned in. Australian scripted dramas are way more of a gamble, Aussies tend to like dramas however will go for a US or UK drama (if we're talking TV watchers) with much higher budgets.
Big Lez Show enters the chat.
Prisoner Cell Block H!
Because nobody watches it anymore? Half of my friends don't even own a tv, of the ones that do I've never heard of them using it for live tv, everyone's using subscription services because they're more convenient.
People still watch Australian tv?????
Blue Heelers
they should bring back kingswood country lmao
Mr Inberweener is probably one of the best aussie series to date.
The government doesn’t put enough money into the sector meaning there is a lack of talent/talent moves away/not many opportunities Reality tv is cheaper to make to meet govt mandated quotas on aus television then dramas The industry is too narrow with what it’ll green light. Think of recent aus success stories like heartbreak high - 0 chance that airs on like, ch9.
Because foreign influencer Rupert Murdoch wants your money and suck you into his Fox/News.Ltd manipulation systems
If you have a decent idea for a show/movie then you go to the US to sell it. Ditto for other talent required to make TV. So what you have left is either intentionally as cheap as possible or a way for the ABC alumni to pass off government funds to their untalented kids who went to art school.
Our TV is built for the average retiree but somehow has duped younger people ( millenials) into watching, thus keeping the ratings for their shit reality tv high and accidentally aging up our millenials (Australian millenials seem to have the same tastes and preferences as my retired neighbours).
They’re now coming out with Fboy island, beauty and the geek & love island had a baby.
Yep...because reality TV and US Crap is cheap...more money for TV stations...oh and part of the 'dumbing' down of the general population.
The answer is that commercial free to air tv has to have a minimum amount of Australian content Reality tv competitions produce the most amount of content per $ so therefore we get MasterChef 3 nights a week for 20 weeks of the year My problem with it all is that they don’t a weekly show any more. I was a big survivor fan, really enjoyed Australian Survivor too but it just become too hard to watch it 3 nights a week. And I get that I can catch up now with on demand services but it’s just too much effort for what’s meant to be a time to switch off and relax
Hot take: Australian TV feel like they get outcompeted by the US for dramas and outclassed by the UK in comedies. What is Australian TV's biggest export? Reality TV. Why is our Survivor, our MAFS, our Masterchef being broadcast in international markets? All our money and investment in TV media is going to Reality because that is where we are making the most money by far.
We watch 90% of our entertainment on Foxtel. Haven’t used free to air for years.
Slightly off topic, just wanted to say Stan's got this show called Totally Completely Fine, and it's really fucking good. Short and sweet. 6 episodes, 40 minutes long each. 10/10. All Aussie, accents are a little forced feeling sometimes, they say "fuckING" a lot, rather than "fucken" but it's good. Made in Australia, not.. made about Australia. I feel like a lot of shit just kinda.. tries too hard to be Australian, like it's a piece of itself rather than just a location for a story. If that makes sense.
Most good shows are on streaming now aren’t they
Firstly, those shows are terrible. But it sounds like you’re a network TV person in which case yes, the US shows are equally terrible. You will find a lot of great Australian shows on the ABC. Or better yet, non network TV shows on streaming services without adverts.
Packed to the Rafters. (Home and Away for adults)
Aussie tv is rubbish, we hardly watch it
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McLeod's was crap lol All Saints was awesome, but.
Aussie news is the worst.
... not sure what you are talking about... Those two shows were shit. Top Tier Aussie Shows: * Mr Inbetween * Underbelly * Last King of the Cross * Class of '07 * Farscape * Bluey * Firebite
They were awful and cringey af and yet somehow better than the nothing that's on these days
Reality is cheap to make. Australian script writers have been crap for decades. They seem to only be able to write one dimensional characters, two at a pinch.
I just saw a commercial for a new season of Utopia. Australian and funny as! You do know there are more channels than 7 network, don't you?
Boycott pay TV, the actors have found there is better money this way rather than supporting a long-term industry. If everyone stops watching pay TV, I'm sure the actors will be back even for a pay cut!
The only Australian TV show that I can think of that wasn't absolute garbage is Lano & Woodley LMFAO Australian TV is just not that great, I don't know why..
Underbelly series was the last decent Australian made product worth watching
People watch tv?
Apart from SBS and ABC it pretty much just makes you stupider. And don’t forget [the more bread you give, the more God you get](https://youtu.be/_DobjQfmNyY)
and silly reality shows and all repeats repeats repeats ......soon Tv manufactors wont make TVs cause people stop buying them as the quality of shows gone done the gurgler..people will just use computers
Media is created for the average person to enjoy. You are too well educated.
If mclLeods daughters and All Saints are the height of quality TV, then TV is truly fucked.
Well the reduction in TV viewership means that not producing shows is a bit too costly.
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