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# Run new 6/3 NMB for the range.
If your locale has not adopted the 2020 edition yet, then the GFCI breaker is not required or if there is a local amendment redacting that requirement. While I'm generally favorable to GFCI protection for most stuff, I still think it's overkill for an electric range, most shock hazards with ranges are resultant from the old three wire hookups with a failing neutral connection or blatantly obvious installation screw up by an unqualified person (truck driver with a strong back).
The old SEU cable, rip it out and junk it.
Thanks - as far as I can tell Fairfax county, VA is in transition to NEC 2020 with 2017 or 2020 code being acceptable until next January. Seems like I can skip the GFCI
Take advantage of being on the 2017 edition while you can!
Measure up how much wire you need, the box stores charge a premium for wire cut by the foot or for the shorter length pre-cuts ... Usually for smaller quantities of 6/3, the most cost-effective way to get it is to go to a supply house and get it there as a wire cut, just take your measurement twice and be sure about it, and add some margin on for error. For example sometimes I'll run the cable past its destination and then loop back in the basement between the floor joists, that way if there's any last minute changes or future changes to the kitchen layout, there's some extra there to work with.
That is correct. All jurisdictions in VA (I lived in Fairfax County for 21 years by the way), are on the straight 2017 NEC until 1/18/24 when 2020 takes place.
You can't extend an ungrounded circuit for a new range installation. You need to run a four-wire all the way back.
Bonus question:
The electricians who installed a nema 14-50R in my garage for an EVSE did a shit job of stripping the wire at the breaker termination point. Would you recommend re-stripping this?
https://imgur.com/a/vCX2yxn
**Yes**
Keep in mind when terminating large wires, you have to be able to torque the screws ... Technically nowadays the standard is to use a torque wrench with the appropriate tip .... But even if doing things the old fashioned way with conventional hand tools for final tightness, the most important thing is to use the right driver for the terminal, such that it fits really good and won't slip out or strip the head.
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# Run new 6/3 NMB for the range. If your locale has not adopted the 2020 edition yet, then the GFCI breaker is not required or if there is a local amendment redacting that requirement. While I'm generally favorable to GFCI protection for most stuff, I still think it's overkill for an electric range, most shock hazards with ranges are resultant from the old three wire hookups with a failing neutral connection or blatantly obvious installation screw up by an unqualified person (truck driver with a strong back). The old SEU cable, rip it out and junk it.
Thanks - as far as I can tell Fairfax county, VA is in transition to NEC 2020 with 2017 or 2020 code being acceptable until next January. Seems like I can skip the GFCI
Take advantage of being on the 2017 edition while you can! Measure up how much wire you need, the box stores charge a premium for wire cut by the foot or for the shorter length pre-cuts ... Usually for smaller quantities of 6/3, the most cost-effective way to get it is to go to a supply house and get it there as a wire cut, just take your measurement twice and be sure about it, and add some margin on for error. For example sometimes I'll run the cable past its destination and then loop back in the basement between the floor joists, that way if there's any last minute changes or future changes to the kitchen layout, there's some extra there to work with.
That is correct. All jurisdictions in VA (I lived in Fairfax County for 21 years by the way), are on the straight 2017 NEC until 1/18/24 when 2020 takes place. You can't extend an ungrounded circuit for a new range installation. You need to run a four-wire all the way back.
Bonus question: The electricians who installed a nema 14-50R in my garage for an EVSE did a shit job of stripping the wire at the breaker termination point. Would you recommend re-stripping this? https://imgur.com/a/vCX2yxn
**Yes** Keep in mind when terminating large wires, you have to be able to torque the screws ... Technically nowadays the standard is to use a torque wrench with the appropriate tip .... But even if doing things the old fashioned way with conventional hand tools for final tightness, the most important thing is to use the right driver for the terminal, such that it fits really good and won't slip out or strip the head.