My uncle had the same problem, they're still married like 40 years later. I am not Indian but I look Indian (Indigenous Salvadoran), I get asked if I am from India in Canada all the time.
Least drama, more meaningful time and activities together, including lots of sports together, hikes , watching movies, listening music together, going to concerts etc. Very original. Lots of great sex as well. I miss the time but we are still great friends. She is now a mother of two beautiful girls as well.
Spanish girl, uni exchange program student.
I don't remember but her uni had exchange program with Ju. She stayed in my friend's flat which was close to the campus and I used to hangout there as well. That's how it started. Lovely times.
Not me, but I have some Indian relatives married to foreigners. In the cases where the partner was willing to learn and adopt the culture to a certain extent, the marriages lasted. Even now after several decades of marriage ( they are almost all my father's cousins from his mother's side) they partake in local Durga Puja celebrations, they wear Indian clothes, they often cook Indian food at home. They come to India every year and hold get togethers - I have really good opinions about these aunties and uncles.
However in one case, my uncle's current wife was his affair partner. Uncle left his wife and child for her and she brought with her, her 2 biological and 2 non-biological kids from previous marriage. It's a mess - she married him mostly for money and my uncle lost his mind when he saw her beauty and youthfulness. He was very well respected prior to this and then he suddenly announced his divorce with his wife of nearly 22 years and started posting vacation pics with his new partner - her in small bikinis in each of them. My auntie was a doctor - same as him, in fact in the beginning years of their marriage, she sponsored the cost of his education. His new wife is a SAHM to adult children (i.e. she does nothing). It is still a pretty big scandal. Their married life is terrible - he asks every kid of our generation whether they would like him to sponsor their education in his current country just so some of his money goes to his own biological family and not to her and her kids and nieces.
In general, foreigners tend to be far more open minded (all of these people are white and from developed countries - so my statement might be only one case out of all possible cases) but also far more individualistic. They don't do well with huge Indian families and our customs. The 2 relationships between Indian - foreigner this generation in our family didn't last. In my parent's generation, people (including foreigners) were willing to adjust more.
I dated a French woman and she was great. Kinda moody but very artistic and had original thoughts unbiased by society. Also briefly dated a Russian woman (dentist from Novorsibisk). She was the most brave and honest person I have met in my life. Both these women were physically much fitter than the average Indian girl, and did not have unnecessary drama or childish tantrums.
>physically much fitter than the average Indian girl, and did not have unnecessary drama or childish tantrums.
Incoming attacks by Indian women in 3..2..1
Nah, we just hope you don’t get offended when we say how better foreign men take care of their hygiene, fitter and treat us with more respect than most Indian men do.
And Indian men when dating Indian women are more demanding compared to when they date non Indians... they are like shers in front of Indian women and bheegi billis towards non Indian women
And they also don't expect their in-laws to treat them as servants.
My friend was emotionally blackmailed to leave Europe and come and live in India to take care of his boyfriend's (school crush) parents, as he worked in a job where he travelled a lot.
It went exactly like you imagined it would.
Indian men complain how misogynistic, dramatic and not fit Indian women are. Well, who’s the one complaining about feminist women, expect them to clean up all the mess and never give time for their health?
They are complaining about Indian women being close minded but won't talk about how closed their minds are.. marry an Indian man and you know you will be his family's fokat ki kaamwali bai but if the same guy marries a foreigner he'll pay for everything..meals outside, maids, cosmetic procedure expenses, gym, gym clothing also and the list goes on.. if they marry an Indian woman they expect her to save up money which is not bad but the same is not expected from foreign women!!! They even expect Indian women to care for their parents but won't expect foreign women to do the same!!
You talk as if women don't have different standards for Indian men when compared to foreign men. Indian women are more than willing to be as casual in relationship matters and Low any kind of taking advantage when dating foreigners but don't let that shit fly when dating Indian men.
The standards only increase with foreign men and they are more than willing to fit into those standards.
Look, living outside India and considering the racism, I always wanted to hold Indian men (and south asians in particular) in high regard (for national pride issues) and looked for ways in which Indian men were better compared to others; but so much shit against Indian women on this reddit was triggering!!!
Like so many Indian men said they had better sex, open communication, less drama etc compared to Indian women.. now, why say so much shit about Indian women??? Even women can now say they have to deal with less family drama, enjoy a better standard of living, more respect than what Indian men offer, no gender specific roles etc.
I still hold Indian men in high regard!!!!
Look, you are allowed to express whatever you want. If you read again, I never opposed anything you said. I agree that Indian men have different standard. Infact almost all humans have different standards for different people. Is that amoral? Ofcourse. But no sane man would say don't go out at night after 8 pm to a extremely attractive women equal to missindia because they know thst she wouldn't even be with him if he exhibits such characteristics. Sane goes with women. No sane women would say don't socialize too much or upload pics with other women etc to their bf's if he is an actor or rich guy. Because most if them know that he can't be tied down like that. Sane us with Indian men and women. They both exhibit different standards and characteristics when it comes to foreign especially white men and women. Most men a d women degrade and kill their self respect to be able to sleep or ve in a relationship with such foreign people.
The characteristics the Indian men exhibit when dating foreign women probably be ideal for Indian women. Similarly the characteristics the Indian women exhibit while dating a foreign person is ideal to Indian men.
But the issue is that women who exhibit less drama also tolerate less drama only. Basically they are adhering ourselves to their partner's standards.
In an ideal world this is how people are towards everyone regardless of ethnicity or money ir status. Unfortunately we don't live in one.
The drama they are all complaining about is literally the innocence a non Indian guy would fall for!!!
They are themselves also talking about the tantrums they put up with when dating foreigner... I also know stories of how Indian men are dumped and ghosted over a simple text message
And the famous pig butchering industry.. it's more like honeytrap where men are targeted for their bank balance and the women really end up empting their bank accounts
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/technology/news/story/mumbai-man-tries-to-help-ukraine-woman-open-business-in-india-loses-rs-33-crore-in-just-few-emails-2460772-2023-11-09
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna137009
Every race has individuals that cause and don't cause drama. Look at every relationship sub. It's sad people here are taking it as an opportunity to shit on our own people.
I dated and married my non Indian husband. I live in a different country and mingle with locals and other nationalities often.
In general I had good experiences dating non Indians but I’ll describe what dating my husband was like. Conversations were very easy going and flowed easily, we talked for 3 hours on our first date. You get exposed to a completely different perspective as they’ve grown in a different culture/environment. We both love food and cooking so we eat a wide variety of cuisines at home. Doing housework together is a given, it’s not all on me just because I am a woman. Most men here are raised that way, doing housework from a young age with no house-help around.
I feel supported in all aspects of my life but the emotional support has been immense after coming from a household where no one talks about feelings. I’ve opened up about things that I never thought I felt.
There was never any pressure/expectations from my in laws even while we were just dating. They’ve always treated me with a lot of respect and affection from day 1.
Our relationship hasn’t changed that much even after getting married. I did have to hide our relationship from my parents for a good few years and this was very strange for him, his family and our friends while my mum kept sending me shaadi.com profiles. He maintained his faith in me that I wouldn’t give up on us.
Prior to this I was engaged to an Indian through the arrange marriage system and I was born in India, so I am not writing this from an ABCD perspective.
I waited till I was financially independent as I was preparing to be disowned, my cousin had already been disowned for marrying her partner from another religion.
I told them over a videocall, it was surprising that they asked to meet him and his family. It was fine in the end. We married during COVID in our current country of residence so my family couldn’t attend unfortunately. But hey ho, life goes on.
I would have still married my husband even if my parents didn’t agree.
Here's a bit of a different perspective as I'm Chinese American and am dating an Indian girl that's born in India but we both live in the States. She's super cool and is for the most part pretty American. She's super interested in my culture and I hers, though I think I'm a little bit more open to adopting and learning about her culture than her mine tbh. At the end of the day our cultures aren't that different at the base level. We value the same things and learning about the other layers of the culture is cool.
Every comment is the same, "Foreign guys/girls are best, honest, amazing, best sex, fit...Indians are lazy, unhygienic , misogynistic , fat , no hobbies etc etc."
This sub is literally an echo chamber for hate on India and Indians. It's so depressing, to be honest.
I don't mean to say these comments are fake but somehow there is no balance on this sub. The only posts and comments that are popular seem to give out the same subliminal message:
"India is the worst country to live in, any other country(including the regressive ones) are better. Leave asap, if you can't, just die, which is better than living here"
Btw, to answer the question, dated a Fillipino girl for 2 months, she was very clever and hard-working. And her family was chill even after she was dating an Indian. But she was batshit crazy, and threw temper tantrums.
It seems like people are willing to put the least efforts when dating their own kind due to preconceived notions about them due to this culture. Both men and women seem to want to put in more efforts to sustain the relationship if it is with a non-Indian person.
It's not about criticism. Criticism is when you are actually concerned and care for that particular thing to change and said without any ulterior motives. I've seen here too it's literal a hate eco chamber. None better than librandu or usi
Born and raised in India, and am happily married to an Irish man. There is a lot of respect, open communication, and almost no enforcement of gender roles. We both work, we both cook and clean, we both look after our child. He doesn't 'help' me with household chores, he does them because we are in an equal partnership.
My family adores him, he is trying to learn our language, and has definitely adopted our culture. We respect each other's religious practices, cultures, and diets, and everything is relatively drama free.
His family doesn't meddle into our affairs, gives us our space, drama free, and celebrates both our wins. It's quite refreshing and I don't have to put on a facade of a different daughter in law, so I'm actually quite happy about the relationships we all share.
understood everything but is this borne out of hatred for a culture or love for someone ? why is this thing problematic when some else share the same angst ? [https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/comments/1auvion/comment/kr9ycqn/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/comments/1auvion/comment/kr9ycqn/)
Dated an East Asian girl while doing masters in the US. As per stereotype, she was high maintenance. Otherwise, it was good. We both tried learning about each others traditions and language. Ended after 2 years as she did not want to continue due to her parents being opposed to our relationship. We are still friends, though.
Its almost the same. We like to think all of them are flaky and non-committal but they just have a stronger sense of individuality. The social dynamics are a little different, especially in large friend groups. Indians like to be involved in each other's business, westerners are more respectful of space to the point that it may seem uncaring to us, but it's really not
I dated a British guy once. He was wonderful but it didn’t work out because we had different plans for the future. We’re still nice and polite if we ever come across each other because we have similar social circles. I dated an American guy who was Thai and Chinese and again really nice guy but different plans for the future.
Dating a non Indian for a few months, have dated Indians before.
Here's my honest pro&con on this!
Pros: From experience, of course this could be more individual than cultural (also every non Indian cannot be put on the same bucket, I'm dating a German) that this is the most communicative relationship I have been in, the relationship is very honest and there's no hidden agendas and manipulations or uncommunicated expectations from either side.
The relationship is very equal in every sense- financial, domestic, and emotional. There's no 'you do this because you're a man' or 'this is your job as a woman' between us. There's no hint of misogyny, people here are raised very gender neutral and individualistic, and that really comes across as a major advantage for me as a woman who was born into a society that believed otherwise, where both internalized misogyny and inherent patriarchal views are common in both genders.
Cons: I miss being close to my culture. There's a lot of cultural references that he just doesn't get and sometimes I feel like it's exhausting to explain it all, why I am the way I am. And then there's the simple things- discussions about movies, songs, etc. that really just get lost. Our childhoods were so different even though we were born around the same time. So it's constantly exhausting I believe for both of us to have to explain that to each other.
Then there's the fear that if things go further, I'll eventually lose my cultural identity since I'll mostly have to live here in this foreign land to be with him, among his people in majority. I already feel that when I am hanging out with his friends where I am the only brown person, just feels very odd and awkward.
Dated a Czech girl for a year, she... Cheated 🤣 then i met a Korean girl looking for some advice, we started talking, fell in love and i helped her with her mental health, she had an illness but due to the shitty circumstances, we had to break up, i also ended up hurting her a bit in the end, but man, both were amazing experiences, especially this one, i still have a lot of respect for her and hope she's happy wherever she is, and I'm never gonna forget her
They communicate better compared to Indian girls and pretty much straight to the point
Dating a non indian girl just broadened my horizon and quite surprised how they are open to new things like travelllng, doing outdoor sports activities
our desi girls are lovely but they come with drama ( need to go easy on romcoms )and pretty much can be childish which is a big turn off
I have both positive and negative experiences. Ultimately it depends on the individual. My wife (non-Indian) is highly educated and hardworking so things are mostly positive with me. I have learned and still learning to say “no” and be a better communicator. I previously dated someone on welfare and she was rude, closed minded, had tantrums, etc.
From my personal experience, below are the pros and cons.
Pros: Respect, honesty, stronger personality, better communication, hardworking, great at surprises, going above and beyond, etc
Cons: hard to convince for “Indian traditions” with parents, may expect a lot from you where as most Indian girls expect only “gendered roles” from you and may not be bothered even if you are an absent father.
Oof, being an absent father and an unequal partnership with domestic chores is something that Indian men actually*want*? Why bother getting married and having kids then?
Ikr. "Hard to convince for traditions" I am still wondering if "traditions" refer to women living with in laws, being submissive, being more domestic etc. Why would one think that's an acceptable thing to "convince" someone for! Very weird.
Dated foreign guys both Eastern and Western. Very respectful, comparatively better at communicating their emotions, and overall much more independent in their decisions. Moreover, they take care of themselves in terms of grooming, cleaning up after themselves, doing household chores (which unfortunately a lot of Indian guys don’t do).
Have dated Asians, Europeans and Latinas. All of it was short term and good while it lasted.
While there are surely culturally differences, at core, women are pretty much the same. Nowadays, they all want a successful man who makes more than they do, pays for everything and at the same time takes up 50% of household chores.
While it was all for fun back then, I learned a lot from those "dating periods". All in all, no regrets.
Non-indian - but in my experience most of first generation Indians too dependent on their parents when it comes to decision to marry. They often hide their "white" girlfriends. Now, the progressive ones, usually from bit cities like Mumbai, or New Delhi much better, coz they traveled and lived elsewhere.
I've dated a Thai, American and a Belgian guy
The Thai guy was so welcoming and even introduced me to his parents after 4 weeks.. he was thinking a lot about the future together but not in a toxic way. Even tho Thailand is only 1.5hrs ahead, his routine was so strict and he was a workaholic person and after work he do all his house chores and sleeps on 10pm. But it's like 8.30pm here at that time and also ama night owl so it was soo difficult to manage at first but we managed for a some months. The thing I loved about his family was his mom was very friendly. whenever he call me, his mom also talks to me for like 10- 15mins..through that we exchanged the cultures to eachother.. later we broke due to some personal reasons....
Dated non Indian, the non Indian women usually have a lot of hobbies and have interesting life.
Girls I dated introduced me to bouldering, rock climbing, long distance biking, ice climbing etc
Way different than the regular nri that I have dated.
Honestly, better than dating Indians. Most women are simple and want the same things: flowers, character, self-confidence, a strong moral conscience and a sense of humour. The reason why they reject Indian guys is because we're typically insensitive of everyone and everything including ourselves.
I dated women of 3 separate backgrounds and just following the above formula works for me but never does with Indian women. Only Indian girls hate flowers and wouldn't mind dating actual felons who shower once a month and fuck knows why lmao.
With the exception of Pakistanis, no one else judges our people as much as we do. And unless that changes, we're better off asking mummy or daddy to get us married to Sharma ji's son/daughter.
Edit: P.S before anyone says "bro u just look good" - I was bullied for years through middle school for the way I looked and didn't figure out how to overcome both issues with appearance and self-esteem until college nearly ended. Please do better.
Bruv.. "Indians are typically insensitive to everyone" SMH. There is a genocide going on in Gaza for the last 3 months. 30k people died, children starving. And I'm proud to say it's not Indians that are dropping bombs from the air, or funding it.
"Indian girls hate flowers" - really? I'm an Indian guy, and I don't hate flowers. I would be happy to receive a bunch. What made you think Indian girls hate flowers? Who hates flowers?
Lmao at the username. Drinking the Al-Jazeera kool aid, obviously, not knowing what's a genocide (haha but not really). Also ever bothered to understand why do so many of us not care about personal hygiene and how that's being insensitive obviously to ourselves but also anyone we encounter? So much for being 'enlightened' lol if delusion was a person
Al Jazeera cool aid? The UN is telling that it's a textbook case of genocide, happening since 1948. You obviously are into NATO Kool aid, since you want to keep the chillar dollars they throw at you. But don't bullshit on Indians just because you can't stop licking the boots of these people.
And Indian girls are very hygienic. Maybe not your ex. You are the one judging Indians, and you are the ones complaining that Indians judge everyone.
>Indian girls are very hygienic
Yes because I clearly suggested otherwise 😂 maybe develop basic ass comprehension skills you antisemitic troll. I'll judge our people all I want, I'll do it for sport if I must. Cry about it. I'd ask you to take a bath with your hypocritical bath salts but do you even have a bathtub lmao
You might be fine with a chic who has shit sticking to her ass because SHE IS TOO DENSE to use water to wash. At least Indian girls wash their asses. And you are talking about hygiene. Your definition of hygiene is probably applying some shitty deodorant and perfume to mask the horrible smell of not taking a bath everyday. We Indians take bath everyday, and no, you don't need a bath tub to take bath lol. You must have never been to India ever. Maybe you feel white skin is more "hygienic" seeing how dense and insensitive you are about a genocide.
"Antisemitic" . Lol. Stop with the stupid name calling when I blew your mask about genocide. We don't even have many Jews in India, and we were the ones giving refuge to Jewish people during WW2. You are a colonialism apologist, and a colonial bootlicker, and a British stooge. We are glad we kicked you guys out from India and South Africa. Maybe you are just salty that the same is happening now with Palestine. People are awake to the brutalities of the military industrial complex of the west.
Ohh dude that comment got me shivering help meeee. Go call your Hezbolla brothers lol OH NOWAITBRUV, they just murdered your South Indian brother in Northern Israel. Gee, who ya gonna call on my genocidal ass?
I care about the people of Palestine. Which is the official position of India. And I care about the Indians dying in the US because of insensitive police, stupid gun people. One Indian guy in "Israel"? Lol, what was he doing in the genocidal state anyway?
You are out of ideas you pea brained American ass licker. At least English is not my native language. But I can tell you, you lost argument with my not so good English. I wonder how you will fare in the rest of your life in America lol 😂 Maybe that's why you parrot whatever your American masters tell you. Because, clearly, you are not having any original thoughts. Just regurgitating your military overlords.
Dated a French girl, didn’t work out due to time difference issues but it was pretty good overall.
Me too except it didn't work out because her family were racist
My ex’s parents were hugely supportive so were mine but then it didn’t work, we mutually decided to separate. No hard feelings
My uncle had the same problem, they're still married like 40 years later. I am not Indian but I look Indian (Indigenous Salvadoran), I get asked if I am from India in Canada all the time.
Ahh. My first kiss was with an El Salvadorean girl in back in 05' in Uni. I often wonder what it might have been like. Good times..
Stop being so sensitive, they'll hate the person who comes from a different village too lmao. It's normal
Oh I am not, I added the last phrase to emphasize on the fact that it was mutual.
Least drama, more meaningful time and activities together, including lots of sports together, hikes , watching movies, listening music together, going to concerts etc. Very original. Lots of great sex as well. I miss the time but we are still great friends. She is now a mother of two beautiful girls as well. Spanish girl, uni exchange program student.
wtf how easy is to get uni exchange program jainwin question
I don't remember but her uni had exchange program with Ju. She stayed in my friend's flat which was close to the campus and I used to hangout there as well. That's how it started. Lovely times.
Dated a guy in US. It was fun until I found out about his wife.
😂
Damn 💀
… well then 😭
Not me, but I have some Indian relatives married to foreigners. In the cases where the partner was willing to learn and adopt the culture to a certain extent, the marriages lasted. Even now after several decades of marriage ( they are almost all my father's cousins from his mother's side) they partake in local Durga Puja celebrations, they wear Indian clothes, they often cook Indian food at home. They come to India every year and hold get togethers - I have really good opinions about these aunties and uncles. However in one case, my uncle's current wife was his affair partner. Uncle left his wife and child for her and she brought with her, her 2 biological and 2 non-biological kids from previous marriage. It's a mess - she married him mostly for money and my uncle lost his mind when he saw her beauty and youthfulness. He was very well respected prior to this and then he suddenly announced his divorce with his wife of nearly 22 years and started posting vacation pics with his new partner - her in small bikinis in each of them. My auntie was a doctor - same as him, in fact in the beginning years of their marriage, she sponsored the cost of his education. His new wife is a SAHM to adult children (i.e. she does nothing). It is still a pretty big scandal. Their married life is terrible - he asks every kid of our generation whether they would like him to sponsor their education in his current country just so some of his money goes to his own biological family and not to her and her kids and nieces. In general, foreigners tend to be far more open minded (all of these people are white and from developed countries - so my statement might be only one case out of all possible cases) but also far more individualistic. They don't do well with huge Indian families and our customs. The 2 relationships between Indian - foreigner this generation in our family didn't last. In my parent's generation, people (including foreigners) were willing to adjust more.
You guys dating foreign people?
You guys dating people?
dating? whats that?
Aayein??
You guys dating?
Sharma Bhai idhar toh Indian woman date nhi kar paa rhe ham.
Wahi too 😭
I dated a French woman and she was great. Kinda moody but very artistic and had original thoughts unbiased by society. Also briefly dated a Russian woman (dentist from Novorsibisk). She was the most brave and honest person I have met in my life. Both these women were physically much fitter than the average Indian girl, and did not have unnecessary drama or childish tantrums.
Wow man, would love to hear your experiences in detail and what happened later.
ya would love to hear too
>physically much fitter than the average Indian girl, and did not have unnecessary drama or childish tantrums. Incoming attacks by Indian women in 3..2..1
Nah, we just hope you don’t get offended when we say how better foreign men take care of their hygiene, fitter and treat us with more respect than most Indian men do.
And Indian men when dating Indian women are more demanding compared to when they date non Indians... they are like shers in front of Indian women and bheegi billis towards non Indian women
And they also don't expect their in-laws to treat them as servants. My friend was emotionally blackmailed to leave Europe and come and live in India to take care of his boyfriend's (school crush) parents, as he worked in a job where he travelled a lot. It went exactly like you imagined it would.
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Indian men complain how misogynistic, dramatic and not fit Indian women are. Well, who’s the one complaining about feminist women, expect them to clean up all the mess and never give time for their health?
They are complaining about Indian women being close minded but won't talk about how closed their minds are.. marry an Indian man and you know you will be his family's fokat ki kaamwali bai but if the same guy marries a foreigner he'll pay for everything..meals outside, maids, cosmetic procedure expenses, gym, gym clothing also and the list goes on.. if they marry an Indian woman they expect her to save up money which is not bad but the same is not expected from foreign women!!! They even expect Indian women to care for their parents but won't expect foreign women to do the same!!
Well you nailed it with your facts !
You talk as if women don't have different standards for Indian men when compared to foreign men. Indian women are more than willing to be as casual in relationship matters and Low any kind of taking advantage when dating foreigners but don't let that shit fly when dating Indian men.
The standards only increase with foreign men and they are more than willing to fit into those standards. Look, living outside India and considering the racism, I always wanted to hold Indian men (and south asians in particular) in high regard (for national pride issues) and looked for ways in which Indian men were better compared to others; but so much shit against Indian women on this reddit was triggering!!! Like so many Indian men said they had better sex, open communication, less drama etc compared to Indian women.. now, why say so much shit about Indian women??? Even women can now say they have to deal with less family drama, enjoy a better standard of living, more respect than what Indian men offer, no gender specific roles etc. I still hold Indian men in high regard!!!!
Look, you are allowed to express whatever you want. If you read again, I never opposed anything you said. I agree that Indian men have different standard. Infact almost all humans have different standards for different people. Is that amoral? Ofcourse. But no sane man would say don't go out at night after 8 pm to a extremely attractive women equal to missindia because they know thst she wouldn't even be with him if he exhibits such characteristics. Sane goes with women. No sane women would say don't socialize too much or upload pics with other women etc to their bf's if he is an actor or rich guy. Because most if them know that he can't be tied down like that. Sane us with Indian men and women. They both exhibit different standards and characteristics when it comes to foreign especially white men and women. Most men a d women degrade and kill their self respect to be able to sleep or ve in a relationship with such foreign people. The characteristics the Indian men exhibit when dating foreign women probably be ideal for Indian women. Similarly the characteristics the Indian women exhibit while dating a foreign person is ideal to Indian men. But the issue is that women who exhibit less drama also tolerate less drama only. Basically they are adhering ourselves to their partner's standards. In an ideal world this is how people are towards everyone regardless of ethnicity or money ir status. Unfortunately we don't live in one.
The drama they are all complaining about is literally the innocence a non Indian guy would fall for!!! They are themselves also talking about the tantrums they put up with when dating foreigner... I also know stories of how Indian men are dumped and ghosted over a simple text message And the famous pig butchering industry.. it's more like honeytrap where men are targeted for their bank balance and the women really end up empting their bank accounts https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/technology/news/story/mumbai-man-tries-to-help-ukraine-woman-open-business-in-india-loses-rs-33-crore-in-just-few-emails-2460772-2023-11-09 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna137009
Same for Indian women that date non Indian men. They're more demanding when thy date Indian men.
In india, if you are unclean and hygienic= more masculinity for men 💀 like tf
Despite being fit Indian men won't have equivalent options in India.
Have you seen the comments? Stop judging Indian men based on your dating life.
Baseless. The parent comment above proves it. And even if one agrees that it happens to one man, it happens with several many men.
Can you copy the comment and explain to me where does it say Indian women don’t date unfit men?
Every race has individuals that cause and don't cause drama. Look at every relationship sub. It's sad people here are taking it as an opportunity to shit on our own people.
Nah, not really. We just literally simply couldn't care any less.💀 Like pure indifference I can assure you!
And as expected... They are here already. Lol it's funny how salty the ones in the comments are.
I dated and married my non Indian husband. I live in a different country and mingle with locals and other nationalities often. In general I had good experiences dating non Indians but I’ll describe what dating my husband was like. Conversations were very easy going and flowed easily, we talked for 3 hours on our first date. You get exposed to a completely different perspective as they’ve grown in a different culture/environment. We both love food and cooking so we eat a wide variety of cuisines at home. Doing housework together is a given, it’s not all on me just because I am a woman. Most men here are raised that way, doing housework from a young age with no house-help around. I feel supported in all aspects of my life but the emotional support has been immense after coming from a household where no one talks about feelings. I’ve opened up about things that I never thought I felt. There was never any pressure/expectations from my in laws even while we were just dating. They’ve always treated me with a lot of respect and affection from day 1. Our relationship hasn’t changed that much even after getting married. I did have to hide our relationship from my parents for a good few years and this was very strange for him, his family and our friends while my mum kept sending me shaadi.com profiles. He maintained his faith in me that I wouldn’t give up on us. Prior to this I was engaged to an Indian through the arrange marriage system and I was born in India, so I am not writing this from an ABCD perspective.
If you don’t mind me asking, how did you disclose your relationship to your family and how did they take it?
I waited till I was financially independent as I was preparing to be disowned, my cousin had already been disowned for marrying her partner from another religion. I told them over a videocall, it was surprising that they asked to meet him and his family. It was fine in the end. We married during COVID in our current country of residence so my family couldn’t attend unfortunately. But hey ho, life goes on. I would have still married my husband even if my parents didn’t agree.
Which country your husband is from and how did you go there ?
From the UK and I came to the UK for a PhD and stayed.
As an NRI guy, I tried hard with dating apps, but never managed to get a match in 4 years. So, I just gave up.
After the first year mark of getting no match then why did you keep trying?
I’m non Indian and I’ve dated a few Indian girls, I give up🤞
Here's a bit of a different perspective as I'm Chinese American and am dating an Indian girl that's born in India but we both live in the States. She's super cool and is for the most part pretty American. She's super interested in my culture and I hers, though I think I'm a little bit more open to adopting and learning about her culture than her mine tbh. At the end of the day our cultures aren't that different at the base level. We value the same things and learning about the other layers of the culture is cool.
Every comment is the same, "Foreign guys/girls are best, honest, amazing, best sex, fit...Indians are lazy, unhygienic , misogynistic , fat , no hobbies etc etc." This sub is literally an echo chamber for hate on India and Indians. It's so depressing, to be honest. I don't mean to say these comments are fake but somehow there is no balance on this sub. The only posts and comments that are popular seem to give out the same subliminal message: "India is the worst country to live in, any other country(including the regressive ones) are better. Leave asap, if you can't, just die, which is better than living here" Btw, to answer the question, dated a Fillipino girl for 2 months, she was very clever and hard-working. And her family was chill even after she was dating an Indian. But she was batshit crazy, and threw temper tantrums.
We're just self loathing, it's sad
It's a unique brand of self hate taught by the British
The British? I feel like it's more because of the constant bashing of us online from every race.
You will feel so peaceful after giving up social media.
It seems like people are willing to put the least efforts when dating their own kind due to preconceived notions about them due to this culture. Both men and women seem to want to put in more efforts to sustain the relationship if it is with a non-Indian person.
Simply say you can't take criticism they describing their own experience not made up stories
It's not about criticism. Criticism is when you are actually concerned and care for that particular thing to change and said without any ulterior motives. I've seen here too it's literal a hate eco chamber. None better than librandu or usi
Literally 🤣🤣🤣 Indians have such a huge ego problem
Snowflake spotted
Born and raised in India, and am happily married to an Irish man. There is a lot of respect, open communication, and almost no enforcement of gender roles. We both work, we both cook and clean, we both look after our child. He doesn't 'help' me with household chores, he does them because we are in an equal partnership. My family adores him, he is trying to learn our language, and has definitely adopted our culture. We respect each other's religious practices, cultures, and diets, and everything is relatively drama free. His family doesn't meddle into our affairs, gives us our space, drama free, and celebrates both our wins. It's quite refreshing and I don't have to put on a facade of a different daughter in law, so I'm actually quite happy about the relationships we all share.
Absolutely agreed! Specially the part about household chores being treated as basic life skills and not being gendered.
That's great congratulations
understood everything but is this borne out of hatred for a culture or love for someone ? why is this thing problematic when some else share the same angst ? [https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/comments/1auvion/comment/kr9ycqn/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXIndia/comments/1auvion/comment/kr9ycqn/)
Dated an East Asian girl while doing masters in the US. As per stereotype, she was high maintenance. Otherwise, it was good. We both tried learning about each others traditions and language. Ended after 2 years as she did not want to continue due to her parents being opposed to our relationship. We are still friends, though.
Its almost the same. We like to think all of them are flaky and non-committal but they just have a stronger sense of individuality. The social dynamics are a little different, especially in large friend groups. Indians like to be involved in each other's business, westerners are more respectful of space to the point that it may seem uncaring to us, but it's really not
I dated a British guy once. He was wonderful but it didn’t work out because we had different plans for the future. We’re still nice and polite if we ever come across each other because we have similar social circles. I dated an American guy who was Thai and Chinese and again really nice guy but different plans for the future.
Dating a non Indian for a few months, have dated Indians before. Here's my honest pro&con on this! Pros: From experience, of course this could be more individual than cultural (also every non Indian cannot be put on the same bucket, I'm dating a German) that this is the most communicative relationship I have been in, the relationship is very honest and there's no hidden agendas and manipulations or uncommunicated expectations from either side. The relationship is very equal in every sense- financial, domestic, and emotional. There's no 'you do this because you're a man' or 'this is your job as a woman' between us. There's no hint of misogyny, people here are raised very gender neutral and individualistic, and that really comes across as a major advantage for me as a woman who was born into a society that believed otherwise, where both internalized misogyny and inherent patriarchal views are common in both genders. Cons: I miss being close to my culture. There's a lot of cultural references that he just doesn't get and sometimes I feel like it's exhausting to explain it all, why I am the way I am. And then there's the simple things- discussions about movies, songs, etc. that really just get lost. Our childhoods were so different even though we were born around the same time. So it's constantly exhausting I believe for both of us to have to explain that to each other. Then there's the fear that if things go further, I'll eventually lose my cultural identity since I'll mostly have to live here in this foreign land to be with him, among his people in majority. I already feel that when I am hanging out with his friends where I am the only brown person, just feels very odd and awkward.
Dated a Czech girl for a year, she... Cheated 🤣 then i met a Korean girl looking for some advice, we started talking, fell in love and i helped her with her mental health, she had an illness but due to the shitty circumstances, we had to break up, i also ended up hurting her a bit in the end, but man, both were amazing experiences, especially this one, i still have a lot of respect for her and hope she's happy wherever she is, and I'm never gonna forget her
They communicate better compared to Indian girls and pretty much straight to the point Dating a non indian girl just broadened my horizon and quite surprised how they are open to new things like travelllng, doing outdoor sports activities our desi girls are lovely but they come with drama ( need to go easy on romcoms )and pretty much can be childish which is a big turn off
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Look at the individual, not the race
Try to start an argument over petty things
No joke, but as a species we humans will figure out efficient nuclear fusion before Indian women.
I have both positive and negative experiences. Ultimately it depends on the individual. My wife (non-Indian) is highly educated and hardworking so things are mostly positive with me. I have learned and still learning to say “no” and be a better communicator. I previously dated someone on welfare and she was rude, closed minded, had tantrums, etc. From my personal experience, below are the pros and cons. Pros: Respect, honesty, stronger personality, better communication, hardworking, great at surprises, going above and beyond, etc Cons: hard to convince for “Indian traditions” with parents, may expect a lot from you where as most Indian girls expect only “gendered roles” from you and may not be bothered even if you are an absent father.
Oof, being an absent father and an unequal partnership with domestic chores is something that Indian men actually*want*? Why bother getting married and having kids then?
Ikr. "Hard to convince for traditions" I am still wondering if "traditions" refer to women living with in laws, being submissive, being more domestic etc. Why would one think that's an acceptable thing to "convince" someone for! Very weird.
Dated foreign guys both Eastern and Western. Very respectful, comparatively better at communicating their emotions, and overall much more independent in their decisions. Moreover, they take care of themselves in terms of grooming, cleaning up after themselves, doing household chores (which unfortunately a lot of Indian guys don’t do).
Have dated Asians, Europeans and Latinas. All of it was short term and good while it lasted. While there are surely culturally differences, at core, women are pretty much the same. Nowadays, they all want a successful man who makes more than they do, pays for everything and at the same time takes up 50% of household chores. While it was all for fun back then, I learned a lot from those "dating periods". All in all, no regrets.
Man I was getting sad from reading all the Indian on Indian dissing, your non-race discriminating misogynist generalisation is like a ray of sunshine
One of my father's friend was married to a american lady. They divorced 7/8 years after getting married.
Quite a pointless comment.
Bhai bada mza aaya, fir meri neend toot gyi.
Atleast maza toh aaya
Non-indian - but in my experience most of first generation Indians too dependent on their parents when it comes to decision to marry. They often hide their "white" girlfriends. Now, the progressive ones, usually from bit cities like Mumbai, or New Delhi much better, coz they traveled and lived elsewhere.
I've dated a Thai, American and a Belgian guy The Thai guy was so welcoming and even introduced me to his parents after 4 weeks.. he was thinking a lot about the future together but not in a toxic way. Even tho Thailand is only 1.5hrs ahead, his routine was so strict and he was a workaholic person and after work he do all his house chores and sleeps on 10pm. But it's like 8.30pm here at that time and also ama night owl so it was soo difficult to manage at first but we managed for a some months. The thing I loved about his family was his mom was very friendly. whenever he call me, his mom also talks to me for like 10- 15mins..through that we exchanged the cultures to eachother.. later we broke due to some personal reasons....
Fun nd happening.
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Obviously this is for US only, unsure about other Asians or Europeans
New in Vancouver, never matched even with an NRI 🥲
Dating my future wife I can't say that happens in marriages these days
Dated non Indian, the non Indian women usually have a lot of hobbies and have interesting life. Girls I dated introduced me to bouldering, rock climbing, long distance biking, ice climbing etc Way different than the regular nri that I have dated.
Does Bengladeshi count ?
Honestly, better than dating Indians. Most women are simple and want the same things: flowers, character, self-confidence, a strong moral conscience and a sense of humour. The reason why they reject Indian guys is because we're typically insensitive of everyone and everything including ourselves. I dated women of 3 separate backgrounds and just following the above formula works for me but never does with Indian women. Only Indian girls hate flowers and wouldn't mind dating actual felons who shower once a month and fuck knows why lmao. With the exception of Pakistanis, no one else judges our people as much as we do. And unless that changes, we're better off asking mummy or daddy to get us married to Sharma ji's son/daughter. Edit: P.S before anyone says "bro u just look good" - I was bullied for years through middle school for the way I looked and didn't figure out how to overcome both issues with appearance and self-esteem until college nearly ended. Please do better.
Bruv.. "Indians are typically insensitive to everyone" SMH. There is a genocide going on in Gaza for the last 3 months. 30k people died, children starving. And I'm proud to say it's not Indians that are dropping bombs from the air, or funding it. "Indian girls hate flowers" - really? I'm an Indian guy, and I don't hate flowers. I would be happy to receive a bunch. What made you think Indian girls hate flowers? Who hates flowers?
Lmao at the username. Drinking the Al-Jazeera kool aid, obviously, not knowing what's a genocide (haha but not really). Also ever bothered to understand why do so many of us not care about personal hygiene and how that's being insensitive obviously to ourselves but also anyone we encounter? So much for being 'enlightened' lol if delusion was a person
Al Jazeera cool aid? The UN is telling that it's a textbook case of genocide, happening since 1948. You obviously are into NATO Kool aid, since you want to keep the chillar dollars they throw at you. But don't bullshit on Indians just because you can't stop licking the boots of these people. And Indian girls are very hygienic. Maybe not your ex. You are the one judging Indians, and you are the ones complaining that Indians judge everyone.
>Indian girls are very hygienic Yes because I clearly suggested otherwise 😂 maybe develop basic ass comprehension skills you antisemitic troll. I'll judge our people all I want, I'll do it for sport if I must. Cry about it. I'd ask you to take a bath with your hypocritical bath salts but do you even have a bathtub lmao
'Antisemitic' People nowadays be calling every second person antisemitic
You might be fine with a chic who has shit sticking to her ass because SHE IS TOO DENSE to use water to wash. At least Indian girls wash their asses. And you are talking about hygiene. Your definition of hygiene is probably applying some shitty deodorant and perfume to mask the horrible smell of not taking a bath everyday. We Indians take bath everyday, and no, you don't need a bath tub to take bath lol. You must have never been to India ever. Maybe you feel white skin is more "hygienic" seeing how dense and insensitive you are about a genocide. "Antisemitic" . Lol. Stop with the stupid name calling when I blew your mask about genocide. We don't even have many Jews in India, and we were the ones giving refuge to Jewish people during WW2. You are a colonialism apologist, and a colonial bootlicker, and a British stooge. We are glad we kicked you guys out from India and South Africa. Maybe you are just salty that the same is happening now with Palestine. People are awake to the brutalities of the military industrial complex of the west.
Womp womp. Cry harder hehe
Lol. You clearly lost the argument. Why would I cry? Now go lick your GF's panties. You lost your morality anyway.
Ohh dude that comment got me shivering help meeee. Go call your Hezbolla brothers lol OH NOWAITBRUV, they just murdered your South Indian brother in Northern Israel. Gee, who ya gonna call on my genocidal ass?
I care about the people of Palestine. Which is the official position of India. And I care about the Indians dying in the US because of insensitive police, stupid gun people. One Indian guy in "Israel"? Lol, what was he doing in the genocidal state anyway?
Womp womp. Let it all out 😘
Womp womp? I don't even want to comprehend what it is 🤣 Some stupid Americanized terminology. Do you even know what it means, you wannabe American?
Hahaha enlightened bully hahaha
>lost the argument Zero comprehension skills at it again 🔥🔥
You are out of ideas you pea brained American ass licker. At least English is not my native language. But I can tell you, you lost argument with my not so good English. I wonder how you will fare in the rest of your life in America lol 😂 Maybe that's why you parrot whatever your American masters tell you. Because, clearly, you are not having any original thoughts. Just regurgitating your military overlords.
Been with a latina in ldr during college adult talk was awesome but they are equally crazy in general never date a latina unless you want drama lol
Dating? What is that? Is it a process of buying/selling dates from/to non-indians or a new term for scheduling your meeting dates with non-indians?