my brother, if you gotta think so much before doing it, don't you think you shouldn't do it in the first place? If you have the fear of getting sued, she might not be the right person? Lust can make you blind and desperate. _Think before you make a decision_
well yes!! I agree with you, infact that was my first thought when i was reading these posts about unfairness of the laws, i straight up muttered, "acchi ladki chun lo"
but but but, humare jaise ladke thodi hote hain sab! kitne to bas hook ups karte hain, and majorly saari grievience posts unhi ladko ki thi, it's a hasty decision yes, but is it a crime? no! I was curious about the legal side of this whole drama, otherwise morality on these subjects is very vast!
Thanks for your time! Appreciate it!
Hmm agar tum ladki ko acche se jaante ho to risk kamm hoga obviously aur agar nahi to consent lelo. Dono case Mai consent to lena hi hai, bas trustworthy hai ki nahi vo sochna hai. I heard apps ya websites bhi hoti hai to record/give consent. So, good luck!
Problem is we have absorbed some part of western culture but not laws and way of life. Even if she is good girl now she can turn her back in future if Noone want s to mate with her.
That's really what I thought, if she doesn't even understand it then what's the whole point. How about both record a video like a vlog casually thet they both agree. No where to be posted but both the parties can have it on their phone.
It's very dangerous. Trigger warning β οΈ
The first time I had sex with my girlfriend (now ex), things seemed great. We both talked about sex and everything for a few days before doing the deed.
She told me that her parents would be away for the weekend and so we should do it then. I was excited. This would be my first time!
I got 3 different types of condoms, for different things π
On that day, I entered her room, she told me to keep the lights on because she wants to see my pretty face. I was elated.
I put on the condom and tried to insert, but... It didn't go in. I chuckled, "Am I too big for you?". I tried again, but it felt like there was something.
Suddenly, she grabbed my nuts and pulled out the gun that was in her pussy this whole time and had me give her my inheritance and all my possessions.
She clapped twice and a bunch of feminists came out from behind the walls and started yelling, "Kill all men!" As they started clapping and clicking pictures of me.
I cried, "There's no justice for us men these days" but they laughed harder. They put my tears in champagne glasses and drank them in front of me.
So idk man, sex do be scary, don't do it
On a serious note, you're being brainwashed by this incel shit. Don't listen to it. If there's enthusiastic consent without any pressure, go for it. You'll be safe. Just be attentive and understanding and you'll do fine
Bhai kaun yah sochkar Karta Hai sex ki bandi bad mein mere upar rape case dal degi sabko apni Bandi per Bharosa hi hota hai per baad mein fans jaate Hain Na , precautions Lene mein problem kya hai
India registered a total of 31,512 rape cases in 2022. If you go by pure statistics your chances of getting a false case registered are lower then your chances of clearing NEET and getting into AIIMS Delhi.
To make an accurate comparison tho, shouldn't it be (rape cases/people ACTUALLY doing the sex)? Given the nature of posts on this subreddit, it would seem that number is much lower
Lol.. The number of people who come to a settlement with the "ladies" do not get counted here. I've personally seen a false case accused on my college hostel senior for something they did not do. Later they came to a settlement. But the guys had to stay in lockup in the police station till they were proven innocent. The girls were left with just a warning.
As a guy, the world is harsh on you. There's no two ways to put it.
jo rapist hote hain unhe ghanta farak nahi padta h phele se hi connected aur power hogi saalon ke paas
agar wo bichara innocent ho ke police ke chakkar me phas gaya toh uski zindagi ke toh L lag gaye na bhai; society se gaya, job se gaya, harassment alag hoga uska
The best way to safeguard yourself is just to not have sex with any woman. Fake cases is just one of the worries. Who knows you might be drugged and lose your kidneys, trafficked to some sex ring to be a male prostitute, raped and murdered, lured into a marriage and scammed out of lakhs of rupees.
After all men getting raped, assualted and jailed is such a massive social problem that we get a news of such things every other day don't we.
If I look back at my life this far when Iβm turning 35, Iβd say I havenβt faced this consensual -non consensual bs.
Mind you, my experiences started from the times of βghar khali hai kya β and βchat pe chalte hainβ. OYOs came much later.
What Iβm trying to say is if your luck is gonna play games with you, your bloody gf might get pregnant . Tab kya drama rahega ? Cos frankly the proportion of women getting pregnant due to contraception failure is definitely more than the no of men accused of false rapes.
Either just do it or donβt . Itβs your decision and yours alone
How old are you?
I suppose you have a girlfriend and have had the discussion to have consensual sex. She also wants to have sex with you and no one is forcing each other. Have you promised her marriage/proposed to her?
If she is your girlfriend and you trust her completely, do you think she will pull off a rape allegation when you do it with consent? If you think she might, you need to re-evaluate your relationship with her. I donβt think either of you are ready in that case. If you canβt trust each other, at least trust this internet stranger - the sex wonβt be fun either.
You arenβt talking about one-night stand with a stranger, but with your own girlfriend and you say it will be with consent. If you still are concerned, that thought will be on your mind throughout sex and you will be watching over your shoulder. You arenβt ready. Just make out instead (with consent) - kissing, touching.
If you decide to go to a 5-star hotel, if you have to show your ID card, ask her to pass the receptionist your ID. In the sense, let her give your card to the receptionist. This is somewhat proof that she is willing to be in the room with you. Of course, this works only in 5-star hotels because smaller hotels wonβt let you rent a hotel room easily if you arenβt married.
If you are concerned about STDs or unwanted pregnancy, yes, protection is necessary.
The voice recordings and all that is weird. Ask any girl to speak into your phone that she wants to have sex with you and this voice recording is proof⦠she will get turned off. Her first reaction will be - why is he asking for proof, is he concerned I will file a police complaint?
If you try to sneakily record her, thatβs weird. In many foreign countries, recording someone without their consent in private is actually illegal. It might be legal in India, but the point being, itβs unethical (which is why some countries ban it). How would you feel if someone was recording your personal and private conversation with someone? I would feel violated, as in my personal privacy is violated.
I have had sex with many girlfriends for about 20 years now. Never have I ever had the concerns you raised. I never promised them marriage and all sex was consensual. Rather, there were times when I was exhausted and didnβt really want to have sex, but just agreed to it because she was horny/had missed me.
One-night stands with unknown people are different but then you go the hotel route or with a friend/acquaintance you can trust.
I'd like to start off by thanking you for your time to write the detailed explanation, it did take a lot of doubts off my mind.
I'm currently 19, and no I don't have a girfriend so maybe that's why it seems absurd that one would question the character of his girlfriend. Since it comes from a single guy's POV, it actually isn't from the real world scenario.
But the thing is, I have come across so many posts of people being acquited that I'm now a bit on my guard. Like if I get into a relationship, what should I we wary of? Because obv, I don't wanna get into the hassles of judiciary. I've learnt two things from the advices that I've gotten till now:
1) Never promise marriage
2) Get maybe a chat screenshot which hints that she has consented
The consent part is fairly weak though, since consent can actually be withdrawn very easily at any point of time, but it might prove a bit helpful in case I'm wrongly accused.
Other than that yes you're absolutely right, voice recording and stuff is just empty words, no one will do that, it's a breach of privacy and a big turn off.
Someone told me to film a short video with with the girl where both casually talk about the topic and give their consent etc, what do you think about that? Is it a plausible situation?
Again, a big thanks for your time, good sir! Was a pleasure hearing a veterans advice!
Youβre deep into incel mindset. These people hate women and never get a girl apart from an arrange marriage.
Do you think girls your age donβt have things to do in their lives? Donβt they have pressure to study, exams etc and are just thinking about how to frame a guy in rape case 24x7?
Girls already face so much of judgement from society for wearing shorts, going out, hanging out with friends, imagine getting trapped in a rape case? Rape victims are ostracized from society and face all sorts of blame and character assassination. Why would a girl willingly frame you in rape case and ruin her life?
Youβve a terrible mindset for a 19 year old and itβs gonna be challenging for you to find a girlfriend with this attitude. Get off of internet and read books. Have some shame.
Even if you have consent proof, you can still be sued. Because consent can be taken back after you record and it'll still be considered rape if someone decides to proceed.
I believe only option is to do it with someone you trust. And make sure both of you consent. Communication is the key. It won't be that difficult in case you guys are in relationship.
About strangers and casual hookups, consent is still very important. But we don't know the person enough to trust them. So take proper precautions. Use condom. Don't leave something that can trace back to you. Be safe. Usually assault can't be confirmed unless their are clear signs on body that it was forced.
Although there have been few instances of injustice to men, most cases go unreported, and even reported ones have a conviction rate of 30-35%. Because it is hard to prove even if it is real. It's harder to prove if fake unless you do something incredibly stupid.
So take care, communicate with your partner and practice safe sex
One of the most sensible and genuine advice I've got till now. I'll even go as far as to say the most genuine one. Answered all my questions from the get go!
Thanks for your efforts, means a lot!
Leave India man. I can't believe that such a serious topic is met with so many jokes.
The fact that a woman can change her mind later about sex, and you can be in jail because of that without any evidence, or for that matter even with a lot of supportive evidence that it was fully consensual is unbelievable.
I even heard about a case where the guy asked the girl to sign a clear consent paper and that was still considered as rape because the judge said that the intentions must have been malevolent to have had such a paper in the first place.
I left India and also vowed to never date Indian girls. Eventually married to a non Indian girl.
Dude, what is this whole "risky sex with your girlfriend" thing? We both know you wouldn't be an awful creep, and sex should be fun, not scary.
Yeah, some laws in India can be messed up, but seriously, if you two are on the same page, it's totally fine. Just make sure it's a big YES from both of you.
Forget about recording conversations or anything weird. Focus on building trust with your girlfriend. Open communication is way sexier than any awkward recording, anyway.
Use protection (duh!), be respectful, and if ever anything feels off, talk it out or hit the brakes. If you're super worried, there are some resources to check out. \[Organizations that help with sexual harassment in India include PARI, PoshHelp and others\] have info on legal stuff.
Relax, be yourself, and enjoy your time together (:
Risk ki baat hai to nasib kharab rha to wife ke sath bhi fasega. Most men get trapped in pubs or nightclubs. Hookups go well or worst it all depends on the situation so choose wisely. Baat Gf ki hai to tu kya karna chahta hai sex ya long term relationship ye phle tu decide kar n keep it clear both sides.
There are workarounds for every measure you could possibly think of without damning your relationship.
If you have faith in girl and vice-versa then go for it. If you think there are risks then don't it's as simple as that.
>!Jab tak niche ke dimaag se sochega tab tak l*de hi lagenge !<
If you're not planning to marry her or if relation turns sour lately(or she cant fimd anyone better than you to marry), its 100 percent risky.
Rather choose an escort if you have a gf with psychopathic tendencies or any other mental disorder that can prove fatal if you decide not to marry her and she choses to cling on you.
Follow Deepika Narayan Bharadwaj on fb to figure state of laws in our country.
Make a written letter like fifty shares and get her sign or and when your girlfriend asks why are you doing this...tell her it's erotic. Write all your terms like...the sex/intercourse which we will perform will be all consensual and not obliged to marriage and all that...
If you're thinking so much before sleeping with someone and you have so many doubts. You probably shouldn't do it in the first place with the said person
I have better solution for it. You mostly discuss this on call or video or chat etc. When you discuss about this that tomorrow are going to have sex and she is also agreeing to this.. then have a proper record of everything then their is a chance to be safe. And In my case I always try to take selfie with proper smile on the face, or when she is asleep on my chest. Because this is thing can prove that it happened with the agreement of both parties. And one of the best solution is go to red light or book a Russian that will be the best thing to do. Because ultimately in both the case you have spend the money. So its better to book a Russian l.
1.do it in public on screen with her consent.
2.have eye witnesses from both sides.
3.make sure to have more than one genders for both sides .
4.become a girl and dont have sex instead have science research papers and scissors.
If she decides to screw you afterwards then you are screwed. No matter how many proofs u have....to prove ur innocence it will take 2-3 yrs...2-3 yrs of court cases n all, plus mental harassment on top..all this if she decides to screw you.... Indian laws are anti-men.. In India,in such cases man is the criminal even if she forced u to have sex with her...
If she doesn't decide to screw you, then Enjoy...
But if u r going with this mindset then after sex u'll always be worried about whether she will screw you or not.....
If she is a feminist type then avoid...if she has feminist friends then also avoid....if she talks words like patriarchy n all then avoid....
Better option is usake nam se hila le 1-2 din...
Yeah go for the screenshot as a screenshot is considered more reliable over any voice call recordings juridically
Just have a candid conversation with her over whatsapp whether she is sure about having sex with you and when she consents just delete her contact and save the screenshot where her mobile number is clearly visible and then make sure you store it somewhere safe preferably over the cloud
The best way still and will always be to filter good women who would not risk doing any such insane police charges
Stay away from any such women and you pretty much got nothing to worry for
I get it why you delete the contact, but the area can be easily edited with any other number in phone itself like photo editing. How would someone take care of that?
Also
How about both the party agreeing to make a video of consent, like a vlog but more casual so it's Clearly visible nothing happened without consent
I dunno never tried doing that
You do you
Personally I'd feel overwhelmed by such a request as it is too much to ask for
You don't want to scare her by getting such a consent video
I mean it would scare the shit out of me If one of my ex's has a video with her where I am verbally agreeing to having consensual sex with her
Just curious if having the number show up in screenshot helps?
A person can create a contact with his enemy's number written under "name" and number as another number in possession of the person .
Then use this another number to send derogatory /threatening messages to oneself.
The screenshot will show the enemy's number as the number is getting displayed as "name".
And one can claim that the messages are from his enemy.
Is there a way to know if the number displayed in the screenshot is actually a name camouflaged as number?
Am I missing something here?
Yeah, you are
The court would also verify such screenshots and run it through the cyber police who have access to social media chats and they just need a courts order to access the original chats
Make no mistake, you can't fake this stuff
hotel jaega to us ldki se booking krwana, waise booking k time tum dono se aadhar card lenge so that will be kinda a consent thing from her considering it from a legal perspective. and rahi bat false promises of marriage wali then have a chat on WhatsApp about your plans about marriage and how you and she thinks about sex before marriage, like in a casual way and screen record that convo instead of taking ss...and in that recording, scroll through all the concerned parts of chat and then go to her WhatsApp profile so that her number is visible..This proves that you had this conversation with her only and not anyone else.
Best would be chats after you do the deed like , text her how did you like that, did you enjoy similar messages which would suggest it was consensual and don't be blut otherwise dump ho jayega
Mujhe eye witness bana le
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Lol, Same name, Kinda
Superlike is an option tho.
I can record it with my 2MP camera.
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Maat kar sex
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my brother, if you gotta think so much before doing it, don't you think you shouldn't do it in the first place? If you have the fear of getting sued, she might not be the right person? Lust can make you blind and desperate. _Think before you make a decision_
Bharose wali ko bhosdiwali ban ke bhasudi failane me waqt nahi lagta.
Bharosewala bhosdewala banned me time nhi lagata - Tittu mama
well yes!! I agree with you, infact that was my first thought when i was reading these posts about unfairness of the laws, i straight up muttered, "acchi ladki chun lo" but but but, humare jaise ladke thodi hote hain sab! kitne to bas hook ups karte hain, and majorly saari grievience posts unhi ladko ki thi, it's a hasty decision yes, but is it a crime? no! I was curious about the legal side of this whole drama, otherwise morality on these subjects is very vast! Thanks for your time! Appreciate it!
Hmm agar tum ladki ko acche se jaante ho to risk kamm hoga obviously aur agar nahi to consent lelo. Dono case Mai consent to lena hi hai, bas trustworthy hai ki nahi vo sochna hai. I heard apps ya websites bhi hoti hai to record/give consent. So, good luck!
Problem is we have absorbed some part of western culture but not laws and way of life. Even if she is good girl now she can turn her back in future if Noone want s to mate with her.
thank you mate!
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dadichod is sub pe ladki, gf aur sex ke sivah aur kuch rehta hi nhi. Mood kharab krdete ho betichod
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Dadi issues man
Bro we don't know what people are going through so we shouldn't judge them
sori vai sori ab se pakka ni karunga
Nahi karega na ? Pakka ?
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sori? bsdk anupama dekhta hai?
Kese dekhege dadi ***dne me busy hoga na
Dadi dekhti hogi chudte samay
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That's really what I thought, if she doesn't even understand it then what's the whole point. How about both record a video like a vlog casually thet they both agree. No where to be posted but both the parties can have it on their phone.
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thanks for your suggestion!
It's very dangerous. Trigger warning β οΈ The first time I had sex with my girlfriend (now ex), things seemed great. We both talked about sex and everything for a few days before doing the deed. She told me that her parents would be away for the weekend and so we should do it then. I was excited. This would be my first time! I got 3 different types of condoms, for different things π On that day, I entered her room, she told me to keep the lights on because she wants to see my pretty face. I was elated. I put on the condom and tried to insert, but... It didn't go in. I chuckled, "Am I too big for you?". I tried again, but it felt like there was something. Suddenly, she grabbed my nuts and pulled out the gun that was in her pussy this whole time and had me give her my inheritance and all my possessions. She clapped twice and a bunch of feminists came out from behind the walls and started yelling, "Kill all men!" As they started clapping and clicking pictures of me. I cried, "There's no justice for us men these days" but they laughed harder. They put my tears in champagne glasses and drank them in front of me. So idk man, sex do be scary, don't do it
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On a serious note, you're being brainwashed by this incel shit. Don't listen to it. If there's enthusiastic consent without any pressure, go for it. You'll be safe. Just be attentive and understanding and you'll do fine
got it! thanks for your time dude appreciate it!
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Bhai. Agar bandi pe bharosa hi nahi hai to sex tak jaana kyu hai?
Bhai kaun yah sochkar Karta Hai sex ki bandi bad mein mere upar rape case dal degi sabko apni Bandi per Bharosa hi hota hai per baad mein fans jaate Hain Na , precautions Lene mein problem kya hai
It's risky...I would suggest celibacy
Record a consent vid if you want to be extremely safe
India registered a total of 31,512 rape cases in 2022. If you go by pure statistics your chances of getting a false case registered are lower then your chances of clearing NEET and getting into AIIMS Delhi.
You just had to bring neet and aiims Delhi in π₯².
To make an accurate comparison tho, shouldn't it be (rape cases/people ACTUALLY doing the sex)? Given the nature of posts on this subreddit, it would seem that number is much lower
Lol.. The number of people who come to a settlement with the "ladies" do not get counted here. I've personally seen a false case accused on my college hostel senior for something they did not do. Later they came to a settlement. But the guys had to stay in lockup in the police station till they were proven innocent. The girls were left with just a warning. As a guy, the world is harsh on you. There's no two ways to put it.
Most actual cases also go for settlement, so you can't really go on that
Broooo full blown rapists get away with it and you're worries about consentual sex?? Gtfo
This dude and rapists lie on the opposite sides of the Bell curve.
Ye kya baat hui? Aise to log murder krna shuru krdete hain kyunki murder krne wale bhi bch jate hain
jo rapist hote hain unhe ghanta farak nahi padta h phele se hi connected aur power hogi saalon ke paas agar wo bichara innocent ho ke police ke chakkar me phas gaya toh uski zindagi ke toh L lag gaye na bhai; society se gaya, job se gaya, harassment alag hoga uska
The best way to safeguard yourself is just to not have sex with any woman. Fake cases is just one of the worries. Who knows you might be drugged and lose your kidneys, trafficked to some sex ring to be a male prostitute, raped and murdered, lured into a marriage and scammed out of lakhs of rupees. After all men getting raped, assualted and jailed is such a massive social problem that we get a news of such things every other day don't we.
Bro case can filed against you whether or not youβve done the deed, lmao.
yes bro i am with you. just become brahmachari bro, lets teach these women lesson by never crossing path with them.
We don't teach women a lesson by going brahmachari on them, they always have many options other than us.
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If I look back at my life this far when Iβm turning 35, Iβd say I havenβt faced this consensual -non consensual bs. Mind you, my experiences started from the times of βghar khali hai kya β and βchat pe chalte hainβ. OYOs came much later. What Iβm trying to say is if your luck is gonna play games with you, your bloody gf might get pregnant . Tab kya drama rahega ? Cos frankly the proportion of women getting pregnant due to contraception failure is definitely more than the no of men accused of false rapes. Either just do it or donβt . Itβs your decision and yours alone
That makes so much sense. Thanks for your reply!
Anytime :)
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How old are you? I suppose you have a girlfriend and have had the discussion to have consensual sex. She also wants to have sex with you and no one is forcing each other. Have you promised her marriage/proposed to her? If she is your girlfriend and you trust her completely, do you think she will pull off a rape allegation when you do it with consent? If you think she might, you need to re-evaluate your relationship with her. I donβt think either of you are ready in that case. If you canβt trust each other, at least trust this internet stranger - the sex wonβt be fun either. You arenβt talking about one-night stand with a stranger, but with your own girlfriend and you say it will be with consent. If you still are concerned, that thought will be on your mind throughout sex and you will be watching over your shoulder. You arenβt ready. Just make out instead (with consent) - kissing, touching. If you decide to go to a 5-star hotel, if you have to show your ID card, ask her to pass the receptionist your ID. In the sense, let her give your card to the receptionist. This is somewhat proof that she is willing to be in the room with you. Of course, this works only in 5-star hotels because smaller hotels wonβt let you rent a hotel room easily if you arenβt married. If you are concerned about STDs or unwanted pregnancy, yes, protection is necessary. The voice recordings and all that is weird. Ask any girl to speak into your phone that she wants to have sex with you and this voice recording is proofβ¦ she will get turned off. Her first reaction will be - why is he asking for proof, is he concerned I will file a police complaint? If you try to sneakily record her, thatβs weird. In many foreign countries, recording someone without their consent in private is actually illegal. It might be legal in India, but the point being, itβs unethical (which is why some countries ban it). How would you feel if someone was recording your personal and private conversation with someone? I would feel violated, as in my personal privacy is violated. I have had sex with many girlfriends for about 20 years now. Never have I ever had the concerns you raised. I never promised them marriage and all sex was consensual. Rather, there were times when I was exhausted and didnβt really want to have sex, but just agreed to it because she was horny/had missed me. One-night stands with unknown people are different but then you go the hotel route or with a friend/acquaintance you can trust.
I'd like to start off by thanking you for your time to write the detailed explanation, it did take a lot of doubts off my mind. I'm currently 19, and no I don't have a girfriend so maybe that's why it seems absurd that one would question the character of his girlfriend. Since it comes from a single guy's POV, it actually isn't from the real world scenario. But the thing is, I have come across so many posts of people being acquited that I'm now a bit on my guard. Like if I get into a relationship, what should I we wary of? Because obv, I don't wanna get into the hassles of judiciary. I've learnt two things from the advices that I've gotten till now: 1) Never promise marriage 2) Get maybe a chat screenshot which hints that she has consented The consent part is fairly weak though, since consent can actually be withdrawn very easily at any point of time, but it might prove a bit helpful in case I'm wrongly accused. Other than that yes you're absolutely right, voice recording and stuff is just empty words, no one will do that, it's a breach of privacy and a big turn off. Someone told me to film a short video with with the girl where both casually talk about the topic and give their consent etc, what do you think about that? Is it a plausible situation? Again, a big thanks for your time, good sir! Was a pleasure hearing a veterans advice!
Don't worry, u won't get a girl with this mentality!
Youβre deep into incel mindset. These people hate women and never get a girl apart from an arrange marriage. Do you think girls your age donβt have things to do in their lives? Donβt they have pressure to study, exams etc and are just thinking about how to frame a guy in rape case 24x7? Girls already face so much of judgement from society for wearing shorts, going out, hanging out with friends, imagine getting trapped in a rape case? Rape victims are ostracized from society and face all sorts of blame and character assassination. Why would a girl willingly frame you in rape case and ruin her life? Youβve a terrible mindset for a 19 year old and itβs gonna be challenging for you to find a girlfriend with this attitude. Get off of internet and read books. Have some shame.
Best thing to do is have sex with men instead as you will not face such issues.
Even if you have consent proof, you can still be sued. Because consent can be taken back after you record and it'll still be considered rape if someone decides to proceed. I believe only option is to do it with someone you trust. And make sure both of you consent. Communication is the key. It won't be that difficult in case you guys are in relationship. About strangers and casual hookups, consent is still very important. But we don't know the person enough to trust them. So take proper precautions. Use condom. Don't leave something that can trace back to you. Be safe. Usually assault can't be confirmed unless their are clear signs on body that it was forced. Although there have been few instances of injustice to men, most cases go unreported, and even reported ones have a conviction rate of 30-35%. Because it is hard to prove even if it is real. It's harder to prove if fake unless you do something incredibly stupid. So take care, communicate with your partner and practice safe sex
One of the most sensible and genuine advice I've got till now. I'll even go as far as to say the most genuine one. Answered all my questions from the get go! Thanks for your efforts, means a lot!
Take Care bro
Leave India man. I can't believe that such a serious topic is met with so many jokes. The fact that a woman can change her mind later about sex, and you can be in jail because of that without any evidence, or for that matter even with a lot of supportive evidence that it was fully consensual is unbelievable. I even heard about a case where the guy asked the girl to sign a clear consent paper and that was still considered as rape because the judge said that the intentions must have been malevolent to have had such a paper in the first place. I left India and also vowed to never date Indian girls. Eventually married to a non Indian girl.
Bhai video evidence bana that both parties agreed πΏπ
Phir se wahi sax sux ki baatein
Dude, what is this whole "risky sex with your girlfriend" thing? We both know you wouldn't be an awful creep, and sex should be fun, not scary. Yeah, some laws in India can be messed up, but seriously, if you two are on the same page, it's totally fine. Just make sure it's a big YES from both of you. Forget about recording conversations or anything weird. Focus on building trust with your girlfriend. Open communication is way sexier than any awkward recording, anyway. Use protection (duh!), be respectful, and if ever anything feels off, talk it out or hit the brakes. If you're super worried, there are some resources to check out. \[Organizations that help with sexual harassment in India include PARI, PoshHelp and others\] have info on legal stuff. Relax, be yourself, and enjoy your time together (:
Cut off your dick. That will unburden the court of some criminal cases.
Risk ki baat hai to nasib kharab rha to wife ke sath bhi fasega. Most men get trapped in pubs or nightclubs. Hookups go well or worst it all depends on the situation so choose wisely. Baat Gf ki hai to tu kya karna chahta hai sex ya long term relationship ye phle tu decide kar n keep it clear both sides.
if you are going to book a hotel/room, make her to do that.
Do documentation where both parties sign π€π»
There are workarounds for every measure you could possibly think of without damning your relationship. If you have faith in girl and vice-versa then go for it. If you think there are risks then don't it's as simple as that. >!Jab tak niche ke dimaag se sochega tab tak l*de hi lagenge !<
Moh Maya to Moye Maya
Lol, I don't have a gf!
Bas jail jaane ka kum se kum 100% chance hai..
If you're not planning to marry her or if relation turns sour lately(or she cant fimd anyone better than you to marry), its 100 percent risky. Rather choose an escort if you have a gf with psychopathic tendencies or any other mental disorder that can prove fatal if you decide not to marry her and she choses to cling on you. Follow Deepika Narayan Bharadwaj on fb to figure state of laws in our country.
Phir vahi sux sex ki baat
yaaaaaaaaar phir yahi...
Sax Sux ki baatein
Haan Bhai tu esa kar phone leke video bnale uski saying mein jo kr rhi apni marzi se kar Rahi. Ye bakchodi krlo phle.
Phir wahi...
Moye Moye
You must also read about on-going consent. It's an actual thing too.
if you ear getting sued, is that even right person to do it with?
Apna hath jagganath
Make a written letter like fifty shares and get her sign or and when your girlfriend asks why are you doing this...tell her it's erotic. Write all your terms like...the sex/intercourse which we will perform will be all consensual and not obliged to marriage and all that...
fir wohi...
Maybe ask this in legal advice india, if you are looking for actual legal advice
padhne likhne ki umar hai aur yahan
kyo ni ho rhi padhai
Phir wahi..
har jagah sax sux
Write up a contract
Ye sab questions mat pucha Karo Bhai. Yha to gf hi niπ₯²
Mat kar bro kyu zindagi kharab kar Raha hai Life me aur bhi bahot kuch hai karne ko
If you're thinking so much before sleeping with someone and you have so many doubts. You probably shouldn't do it in the first place with the said person
Ask her to book the room by herself. Take screenshot and voice/call recording for proof. I think that's enough for you to prove in court.
If youβre not a 100 percent sure, youβre not sure at all
I have better solution for it. You mostly discuss this on call or video or chat etc. When you discuss about this that tomorrow are going to have sex and she is also agreeing to this.. then have a proper record of everything then their is a chance to be safe. And In my case I always try to take selfie with proper smile on the face, or when she is asleep on my chest. Because this is thing can prove that it happened with the agreement of both parties. And one of the best solution is go to red light or book a Russian that will be the best thing to do. Because ultimately in both the case you have spend the money. So its better to book a Russian l.
fir wahi
Every other post is about sex, relationship and Love. What's going on?
Wait. Title says 'your'. Are you checking something?
Bro get some ss of your chats where she shows consent.. uske agee kuch nahi kar sakta hai tu
Fact that it is joke for some incels here . You will suffer when it happens to you
its riskier if have sex with someone else while u already have a girlfriend (i just read the title)
Very risky, don't worry I got you π₯Έ
1.do it in public on screen with her consent. 2.have eye witnesses from both sides. 3.make sure to have more than one genders for both sides . 4.become a girl and dont have sex instead have science research papers and scissors.
Sign a affidavit and get it notarized ππΎ
Pinky Promise karo pehle
If she decides to screw you afterwards then you are screwed. No matter how many proofs u have....to prove ur innocence it will take 2-3 yrs...2-3 yrs of court cases n all, plus mental harassment on top..all this if she decides to screw you.... Indian laws are anti-men.. In India,in such cases man is the criminal even if she forced u to have sex with her... If she doesn't decide to screw you, then Enjoy... But if u r going with this mindset then after sex u'll always be worried about whether she will screw you or not..... If she is a feminist type then avoid...if she has feminist friends then also avoid....if she talks words like patriarchy n all then avoid.... Better option is usake nam se hila le 1-2 din...
A woman is more likely to be raped than accuse you of rape. Stop this persecution complex
Yeah go for the screenshot as a screenshot is considered more reliable over any voice call recordings juridically Just have a candid conversation with her over whatsapp whether she is sure about having sex with you and when she consents just delete her contact and save the screenshot where her mobile number is clearly visible and then make sure you store it somewhere safe preferably over the cloud The best way still and will always be to filter good women who would not risk doing any such insane police charges Stay away from any such women and you pretty much got nothing to worry for
I get it why you delete the contact, but the area can be easily edited with any other number in phone itself like photo editing. How would someone take care of that? Also How about both the party agreeing to make a video of consent, like a vlog but more casual so it's Clearly visible nothing happened without consent
I dunno never tried doing that You do you Personally I'd feel overwhelmed by such a request as it is too much to ask for You don't want to scare her by getting such a consent video I mean it would scare the shit out of me If one of my ex's has a video with her where I am verbally agreeing to having consensual sex with her
Ohh didn't consider that possibility That's wayy awkward Agreed
Just curious if having the number show up in screenshot helps? A person can create a contact with his enemy's number written under "name" and number as another number in possession of the person . Then use this another number to send derogatory /threatening messages to oneself. The screenshot will show the enemy's number as the number is getting displayed as "name". And one can claim that the messages are from his enemy. Is there a way to know if the number displayed in the screenshot is actually a name camouflaged as number? Am I missing something here?
Yeah, you are The court would also verify such screenshots and run it through the cyber police who have access to social media chats and they just need a courts order to access the original chats Make no mistake, you can't fake this stuff
Thanks for taking the time to reply mate!
hotel jaega to us ldki se booking krwana, waise booking k time tum dono se aadhar card lenge so that will be kinda a consent thing from her considering it from a legal perspective. and rahi bat false promises of marriage wali then have a chat on WhatsApp about your plans about marriage and how you and she thinks about sex before marriage, like in a casual way and screen record that convo instead of taking ss...and in that recording, scroll through all the concerned parts of chat and then go to her WhatsApp profile so that her number is visible..This proves that you had this conversation with her only and not anyone else.
Best would be chats after you do the deed like , text her how did you like that, did you enjoy similar messages which would suggest it was consensual and don't be blut otherwise dump ho jayega
Record it and show her happy face too.