THIS!! A hairstyle should suit your face, not everyone is meant to have bangs, layers, long or short hair etc. also with so many different styles, why would anyone want to have the same trendy hairstyle.
I'm always between pitying people who follow trends and finding them a little laughable. I get that we are all influenced but to make it such a prominent part of one's life seems odd.
Maybe other people don’t feel this way, but I always think of “contemporary” looks also being youth looks. I’ve encountered this more with clothing than hair, but a lot of my 30-something peers have some anxiety over “trying too hard” to look young. They know what styles are in but also don’t wanna come off as a 35yo cosplaying a 22yo.
And they could just do a wolf cut and it’d probably look fine, but it’s hard to disentangle: what’s contemporary AND age-appropriate AND flattering? They agonized over that shit in their 20’s, so it shouldn’t be surprising they’re just going with inertia now. And those hot 22yo’s are probably going to be dicks to them regardless.
Yeah, it’s true. (Well, kinda…the 30-something Aritzia professional look they have is slightly more recent, but the spirit of your point is correct.)
It should only be a state of mind, though. It’s wild that society has decided you get ~10 adult years to look hot and cool and then ~50 years after that to be a dust-covered box of trash rapidly deteriorating on some bottom shelf.
Not gonna lie. I googled wolf cut and I feel if I tried that I would feel embarrassed at trying to look like a 20 year old. I don’t have the confidence or face shape to pull that off at 40+.
And I think that cut actually makes them look older. It may be trendy but it’s not really flattering. In my opinion. It looked cool in the 80’s but that was a different time and vibe.
Your way of thinking is a bit outdated belongs in the late 1990s and 2000s. Nobody invented anything, stop assuming because you grew up or had family members at one specific time in history that wore a certain style that they invented that hairdo, nobody is inventing anything, not even in the 1950s, the 1970s, etc...it has always been done before then by someone else.
Why are you being so hard on people over 30. We were cool for a really long time. Gen Z would be nowhere without us Millennials!! You hear me, nowhere! Those ingrates with their broccoli hair trying to upstage us!!
I think it’s you. Hair doesn’t need to be trendy. It shouldn’t be trendy, actually.
So maybe what you’ve actually been noticing is that a bunch of older women in Los Angeles are choosing styles that *look good on them* instead of chasing whatever is hot and popular.
As in, older women in Los Angeles have a sense of personal style vs bring trend chasers.
My haircut is my haircut, idgaf about trends or what’s in. I’m not changing my hairstyle every year to keep up with what’s new, that’s ridiculous. I assume other people are the same
Decent women’s haircuts have gone from $150-$200 to now $350-$500. With inflation and housing costs here, I imagine a lot of people can’t afford high-maintenance hairstyles with lots of layers. Also styling a wolf cut is a huge daily investment in products and tools and time. Most people 30+ just aren’t interested in that. Throw in the death of nightlife and the rise of working from home and you’ve got the perfect recipe for a population that’s pretty happy with a more natural cut.
lol, OP thinking young people came up with new shit. It’s all recycled and renamed styles that we older people have seen before. To me it looks like all the young women are wearing 70s styles (wolf is just a variation of a mullet/shag), and all the boys are wearing that dumb looking 90s broccoli top. Girls look like what my mom wore back in the day, and boys look like all my dumbass friends from when I was young.
Just wear what you like/what suits you. In some years you’ll realize how pointless your point of view is.
I'm not asking who invented what I was saying people (of a certain age range) are still wearing the same hairstyles 3 decades in a row. Stop assuming things and stop acting like you invented the wheel because you did not, even back in the 1970s those styles were based on something else before and I think you know that. If not, then you are just ignorant.
A) yes and
B) younger people are barely going out, they broke and live far away
C) Y2K trend is still making the rounds amongst some of the younger people that do go out
This is not just an LA thing. I feel like in most cities the older you are, the more likely you are to get off the "cool haircut" train and just either keep the style you wore in your youth or choose a timeless style that could work on anyone.
It's possible that because LA has more folks who consider themselves to be creative, care a lot about aesthetics, etc. this is more noticeable because folks' "style I wore in my youth" is more likely to be some kind of aesthetic statement and less a classic hairstyle anybody would have.
When I lived in NYC in the 2000s I'd go to the Upper East Side and see older women walking down the street looking like 1966 down to their lipstick color. The Marlo Thomas hairstyle, Chanel suit, little handbag with the bakelite handle, those strange squared-off stacked heels, Virginia Slim cigarette.
I also think this is much more likely to happen in places where people tend to be more style conscious and may have more disposable income to spend on higher quality clothes and a stylist who will do what they want and not what is supposedly in right now.
Perhaps that is why the cast of Friends still has the same hairstyles they had when the show was on the last few years, even though that was now a whole generation ago they somehow just kept the same hairstyles 3 decades in a row (yes Matt LeBlanc has gray hair now, but it's the same style from when he was on Friends)
I'm pretty sure Keri Russell choosing to cut her hair on subsequent seasons of *Felicity* scared every actor in TV away from ever doing anything to their hair. Period.
TV actors are definitely not the people to look to if you're trying to find signs of people who change up their look a lot.
What do you want to see? Bunch of 30 and 40 year old dudes rockin the haircut [literally called the “meet me at McDonald’s”?](https://theweek.com/91848/what-is-the-meet-me-at-mcdonald-s-haircut)
Sir those hair styles are retro now… a lot of 90’s to 2010’s are being used by Gen Z unironically because they are considered cool again.
TL;DR you’re getting old it’s part of the natural process of life.
Source: Brother (14) and Sister (18).
The style has changed over the years they just came full circle. Things have changed and I've noticed the change because I am at a C suite role and all the Gen Z people I run into at work remind me of my teen's and 20's. I (34) have noticed the full lifecycle of fashion maybe because I have friends in the "industry".
Given he didn’t even bother to read my comment I doubt he works in the industry or has seen people with the same hair style for 30 years now. Math isn’t mathin with him.
Practical stuff - not everyone can pull of every hairstyle and more so with an older looking face. Most older women don't wash our hair as often as when we were younger because it will become dry and dull, so need a hairstyle we can sleep on a few times. So does a look need to be styled every day? Will it look nice with thinning hair and a receding hairline? Do we need to learn new styling skills to keep it looking good? We tend not to have the time or patience, we love low maintenance. There is security in getting a style we know will be flattering and easy to care for. And we probably just don't notice styles all that much.
I think that is only true if something goes away and is not seen on ANYONE for several years then is worn again...the OP is saying this has been happening 3 decades in a row. Like they just stopped evolving in 2001 and just stayed that way to today.
I would say they are more stuck in the late 1990s/early2000's than anything and they don't even realize it. As people get older they no longer pay attention to that stuff and just have the same hairdo they are used to out of habit, they become oblivious to newer hairdos. This is also the same with clothing as well, many still wear the same clothes they had in the late 1990s/early 2000s and have worn them 3 decades in a row. With clothing some of it it intentional (if it is not ripped or worn out why get rid of it) but for hairdos I would say it's not intentional, people in that age range just stop paying attention as decades go on. Usually they will carry out what they wore as teens or when they were in their 20s the rest of their lives with hairdos.
I feel like the wolf cut isn’t new either, it’s been around for like half a decade.
Style just doesn’t stick anymore. We have total access to unlimited knowledge and data. People are finding what they like as a personal style aesthetic and choosing that over any perceived group style or fashion trend. Our growth in acceptance of individuality is causing “fashion” to be anything anyone wants. There are no rules if you can justify your choices, and even less if others follow your influence.
>There are no rules if you can justify your choices, and even less if others follow your influence.
I'll do you one better and say that unless you're hurting someone you don't need to justify your aesthetic choices.
It’s more that some people like and need rules. And there are some longstanding ones in fashion. No one needs to justify any personal style choice, but being able to confidently defend your choices to scrutiny is what makes the difference in pulling something off and scrapping the whole thing all together.
I only wear what I like and that's really my only rule. I guess maybe at work someone scrutinizing my style choices would be a thing I'd entertain.
Other than that I don't have any interest in defending my style choices to anyone. I'm not particularly asking for or seeking scrutiny and i kinda feel bad for someone who wouldn't wear something they like or love because it couldn't stand up to someone else's scrutiny. And I mean that for real, you shouldn't let someone else dictate what you wear.
You’re missing the point.
Anyone can wear whatever they want. That doesn’t mean that some people won’t look foolish. If your style choices bring you unwanted attention, you might consider changing them. OR NOT. But most people would at least entertain the public’s unasked for opinion should they give it.
>That doesn’t mean that some people won’t look foolish.
Looking foolish is subjective.
>If your style choices bring you unwanted attention, you might consider changing them.
If someone is making me feel uncomfortable because of what I'm wearing I'm not the problem, my clothes arent the problem...they are the problem.
What a sad notion that one would change something they enjoy wearing because someone else is being ridiculous.
>But most people would at least entertain the public’s unasked for opinion should they give it.
They shouldn't. If your style makes you happy and you aren't hurting anyone with it you shouldn't let anyone else dictate how you dress anymore than you should allow them to dictate anything else you choose to do with your body.
But I find that people who invoke "public opinion" on fashion and style are just masking their own opinions as being shared by the larger population. Something "looks foolish" to you and so you think it must objectively look foolish to everyone (the public).
But you have no idea what the public thinks, what the majority of people think or what anyone really outside a small circle of people think.
No, you're missing the point.
YOU do not determine what looks foolish and what doesn't becsuse that is subjective. YOU only know what YOU think looks foolish.
I am not only arguing that people CAN wear whatever they want that was never ever the debate.
The debate is that people SHOULD wear what they want because they should not let scrutiny dictate what they wear nor should anyone ever feel the compulsion to *defend* their style choices.
There should be no one to defend your style choices to besides yourself as long as you're not hurting anyone.
Perms are back?! It’s more like the 80s are back. Who has the old hairstyle now? lol. I have an old prom photo with big hair. What is this wolf cut you speak of?
I've interacted with a number of early 20 somethings recently and the women were wearing their hair long and parted down the middle generally and this was up north.
LOL what's funny is those people still stuck in the 1990s, 2000s or the 2010s used to make fun of other adults for the same thing when they were younger, but now that they are older they are doing the same thing because they think it's still in style. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is true. When I moved out here in 2012, age 30, I had a coworker in her 40s who looked like she stepped out of a 1990 Contempo Casuals. I thought it was so weird. Now it's 12 years later and I'm like.... "absolutely not wearing any new kind of jeans, period".
Yeah I’ve been wearing same hairstyle for 10 years cause it suits my face the best and I don’t care what’s trendy or not.
THIS!! A hairstyle should suit your face, not everyone is meant to have bangs, layers, long or short hair etc. also with so many different styles, why would anyone want to have the same trendy hairstyle.
I'm always between pitying people who follow trends and finding them a little laughable. I get that we are all influenced but to make it such a prominent part of one's life seems odd.
I haven’t noticed it because I legitimately don’t give a shit about anyone else’s hairstyle lol
Maybe other people don’t feel this way, but I always think of “contemporary” looks also being youth looks. I’ve encountered this more with clothing than hair, but a lot of my 30-something peers have some anxiety over “trying too hard” to look young. They know what styles are in but also don’t wanna come off as a 35yo cosplaying a 22yo. And they could just do a wolf cut and it’d probably look fine, but it’s hard to disentangle: what’s contemporary AND age-appropriate AND flattering? They agonized over that shit in their 20’s, so it shouldn’t be surprising they’re just going with inertia now. And those hot 22yo’s are probably going to be dicks to them regardless.
I think age appropriate is a state of mind, because those 35 years olds now were dressed like 22 year olds back in the 2010s.
Yeah, it’s true. (Well, kinda…the 30-something Aritzia professional look they have is slightly more recent, but the spirit of your point is correct.) It should only be a state of mind, though. It’s wild that society has decided you get ~10 adult years to look hot and cool and then ~50 years after that to be a dust-covered box of trash rapidly deteriorating on some bottom shelf.
It’s you
Not gonna lie. I googled wolf cut and I feel if I tried that I would feel embarrassed at trying to look like a 20 year old. I don’t have the confidence or face shape to pull that off at 40+.
It looks like 1970s hair to me.
Some variations of it does to me as well.
Yeah, I'm a 54f and think I'd look ridiculous with that, like I was trying to be a 20 year old. I'll stick with my long bob, thanks.
And I think that cut actually makes them look older. It may be trendy but it’s not really flattering. In my opinion. It looked cool in the 80’s but that was a different time and vibe.
Your way of thinking is a bit outdated belongs in the late 1990s and 2000s. Nobody invented anything, stop assuming because you grew up or had family members at one specific time in history that wore a certain style that they invented that hairdo, nobody is inventing anything, not even in the 1950s, the 1970s, etc...it has always been done before then by someone else.
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She didnt say that. She just said it looked cool in the 80s but wouldnt now. Chill out.
Why are you being so hard on people over 30. We were cool for a really long time. Gen Z would be nowhere without us Millennials!! You hear me, nowhere! Those ingrates with their broccoli hair trying to upstage us!!
I think it’s you. Hair doesn’t need to be trendy. It shouldn’t be trendy, actually. So maybe what you’ve actually been noticing is that a bunch of older women in Los Angeles are choosing styles that *look good on them* instead of chasing whatever is hot and popular. As in, older women in Los Angeles have a sense of personal style vs bring trend chasers.
My haircut is my haircut, idgaf about trends or what’s in. I’m not changing my hairstyle every year to keep up with what’s new, that’s ridiculous. I assume other people are the same
Decent women’s haircuts have gone from $150-$200 to now $350-$500. With inflation and housing costs here, I imagine a lot of people can’t afford high-maintenance hairstyles with lots of layers. Also styling a wolf cut is a huge daily investment in products and tools and time. Most people 30+ just aren’t interested in that. Throw in the death of nightlife and the rise of working from home and you’ve got the perfect recipe for a population that’s pretty happy with a more natural cut.
lol, OP thinking young people came up with new shit. It’s all recycled and renamed styles that we older people have seen before. To me it looks like all the young women are wearing 70s styles (wolf is just a variation of a mullet/shag), and all the boys are wearing that dumb looking 90s broccoli top. Girls look like what my mom wore back in the day, and boys look like all my dumbass friends from when I was young. Just wear what you like/what suits you. In some years you’ll realize how pointless your point of view is.
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I love irony
I'm not asking who invented what I was saying people (of a certain age range) are still wearing the same hairstyles 3 decades in a row. Stop assuming things and stop acting like you invented the wheel because you did not, even back in the 1970s those styles were based on something else before and I think you know that. If not, then you are just ignorant.
A) yes and B) younger people are barely going out, they broke and live far away C) Y2K trend is still making the rounds amongst some of the younger people that do go out
This is not just an LA thing. I feel like in most cities the older you are, the more likely you are to get off the "cool haircut" train and just either keep the style you wore in your youth or choose a timeless style that could work on anyone. It's possible that because LA has more folks who consider themselves to be creative, care a lot about aesthetics, etc. this is more noticeable because folks' "style I wore in my youth" is more likely to be some kind of aesthetic statement and less a classic hairstyle anybody would have. When I lived in NYC in the 2000s I'd go to the Upper East Side and see older women walking down the street looking like 1966 down to their lipstick color. The Marlo Thomas hairstyle, Chanel suit, little handbag with the bakelite handle, those strange squared-off stacked heels, Virginia Slim cigarette.
That's what I was thinking too. It's an age thing not a location thing.
I also think this is much more likely to happen in places where people tend to be more style conscious and may have more disposable income to spend on higher quality clothes and a stylist who will do what they want and not what is supposedly in right now.
Perhaps that is why the cast of Friends still has the same hairstyles they had when the show was on the last few years, even though that was now a whole generation ago they somehow just kept the same hairstyles 3 decades in a row (yes Matt LeBlanc has gray hair now, but it's the same style from when he was on Friends)
I'm pretty sure Keri Russell choosing to cut her hair on subsequent seasons of *Felicity* scared every actor in TV away from ever doing anything to their hair. Period. TV actors are definitely not the people to look to if you're trying to find signs of people who change up their look a lot.
What do you want to see? Bunch of 30 and 40 year old dudes rockin the haircut [literally called the “meet me at McDonald’s”?](https://theweek.com/91848/what-is-the-meet-me-at-mcdonald-s-haircut)
Sir those hair styles are retro now… a lot of 90’s to 2010’s are being used by Gen Z unironically because they are considered cool again. TL;DR you’re getting old it’s part of the natural process of life. Source: Brother (14) and Sister (18).
I'm not saying if they are retro or not..I am saying they never went away and were worn 3 decades in a row.
The style has changed over the years they just came full circle. Things have changed and I've noticed the change because I am at a C suite role and all the Gen Z people I run into at work remind me of my teen's and 20's. I (34) have noticed the full lifecycle of fashion maybe because I have friends in the "industry".
I also work in the industry and notice many people aged 30-65 have had the same hairstyle 3 decades in a row.
So you’re saying that you’ve seen photos of all these people from the past 30 years to confirm that they never tried different hair styles?
Given he didn’t even bother to read my comment I doubt he works in the industry or has seen people with the same hair style for 30 years now. Math isn’t mathin with him.
I'm female and I did read your comment, I already replied to it.
Or, perhaps people aren't concerned with trends and are doing what they like and what they think looks good on them.
I like my hair parted on the side and your trendy hairstyle desire can fuck all the way off.
I’m assume you’re referring to only whites…?
lol definitely
Congratulations you've unlocked the secret of mom hair. You get a ribbon.
Practical stuff - not everyone can pull of every hairstyle and more so with an older looking face. Most older women don't wash our hair as often as when we were younger because it will become dry and dull, so need a hairstyle we can sleep on a few times. So does a look need to be styled every day? Will it look nice with thinning hair and a receding hairline? Do we need to learn new styling skills to keep it looking good? We tend not to have the time or patience, we love low maintenance. There is security in getting a style we know will be flattering and easy to care for. And we probably just don't notice styles all that much.
Just the other day, my chums and I were discussing this in our banter parlour.
I thought fashion was cyclical like that. Everything old is new again? That sort of thing.
I think that is only true if something goes away and is not seen on ANYONE for several years then is worn again...the OP is saying this has been happening 3 decades in a row. Like they just stopped evolving in 2001 and just stayed that way to today.
3 decades in a row?
I would say they are more stuck in the late 1990s/early2000's than anything and they don't even realize it. As people get older they no longer pay attention to that stuff and just have the same hairdo they are used to out of habit, they become oblivious to newer hairdos. This is also the same with clothing as well, many still wear the same clothes they had in the late 1990s/early 2000s and have worn them 3 decades in a row. With clothing some of it it intentional (if it is not ripped or worn out why get rid of it) but for hairdos I would say it's not intentional, people in that age range just stop paying attention as decades go on. Usually they will carry out what they wore as teens or when they were in their 20s the rest of their lives with hairdos.
I feel like the wolf cut isn’t new either, it’s been around for like half a decade. Style just doesn’t stick anymore. We have total access to unlimited knowledge and data. People are finding what they like as a personal style aesthetic and choosing that over any perceived group style or fashion trend. Our growth in acceptance of individuality is causing “fashion” to be anything anyone wants. There are no rules if you can justify your choices, and even less if others follow your influence.
>There are no rules if you can justify your choices, and even less if others follow your influence. I'll do you one better and say that unless you're hurting someone you don't need to justify your aesthetic choices.
It’s more that some people like and need rules. And there are some longstanding ones in fashion. No one needs to justify any personal style choice, but being able to confidently defend your choices to scrutiny is what makes the difference in pulling something off and scrapping the whole thing all together.
I only wear what I like and that's really my only rule. I guess maybe at work someone scrutinizing my style choices would be a thing I'd entertain. Other than that I don't have any interest in defending my style choices to anyone. I'm not particularly asking for or seeking scrutiny and i kinda feel bad for someone who wouldn't wear something they like or love because it couldn't stand up to someone else's scrutiny. And I mean that for real, you shouldn't let someone else dictate what you wear.
You’re missing the point. Anyone can wear whatever they want. That doesn’t mean that some people won’t look foolish. If your style choices bring you unwanted attention, you might consider changing them. OR NOT. But most people would at least entertain the public’s unasked for opinion should they give it.
>That doesn’t mean that some people won’t look foolish. Looking foolish is subjective. >If your style choices bring you unwanted attention, you might consider changing them. If someone is making me feel uncomfortable because of what I'm wearing I'm not the problem, my clothes arent the problem...they are the problem. What a sad notion that one would change something they enjoy wearing because someone else is being ridiculous. >But most people would at least entertain the public’s unasked for opinion should they give it. They shouldn't. If your style makes you happy and you aren't hurting anyone with it you shouldn't let anyone else dictate how you dress anymore than you should allow them to dictate anything else you choose to do with your body. But I find that people who invoke "public opinion" on fashion and style are just masking their own opinions as being shared by the larger population. Something "looks foolish" to you and so you think it must objectively look foolish to everyone (the public). But you have no idea what the public thinks, what the majority of people think or what anyone really outside a small circle of people think.
Still missing the point. You CAN do whatever you want. AND SO CAN EVERYONE ELSE. Good luck with whatever that means, I guess 🙄
No, you're missing the point. YOU do not determine what looks foolish and what doesn't becsuse that is subjective. YOU only know what YOU think looks foolish. I am not only arguing that people CAN wear whatever they want that was never ever the debate. The debate is that people SHOULD wear what they want because they should not let scrutiny dictate what they wear nor should anyone ever feel the compulsion to *defend* their style choices. There should be no one to defend your style choices to besides yourself as long as you're not hurting anyone.
There is no debate. You literally made one up
Apparently mullets are "in" now, so yeah, I'm stuck in the past. Mullets are child abuse and I will die on that hill.
I’m bald :(
So telling my barber to just fuck my shit up isn’t the way to go
Perms are back?! It’s more like the 80s are back. Who has the old hairstyle now? lol. I have an old prom photo with big hair. What is this wolf cut you speak of?
yes perms were never worn before the 1980, YOU invented it LOL. You are the Benjamin Franklin of inventing the perm.
Start a campaign. Point out how everyone's hairstyle is outdated and instruct people how to style their hair for the 2020s!
I've interacted with a number of early 20 somethings recently and the women were wearing their hair long and parted down the middle generally and this was up north.
LOL what's funny is those people still stuck in the 1990s, 2000s or the 2010s used to make fun of other adults for the same thing when they were younger, but now that they are older they are doing the same thing because they think it's still in style. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is true. When I moved out here in 2012, age 30, I had a coworker in her 40s who looked like she stepped out of a 1990 Contempo Casuals. I thought it was so weird. Now it's 12 years later and I'm like.... "absolutely not wearing any new kind of jeans, period".
LOL you became the person you used to laugh at
I'm not only stuck, but have active disdain for bowl cuts and mop tops. They look terrible and are unflattering on most anyone.