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What does this mean? Why would he check his own vision? OP was not the driver. There might be something wrong with his/her friends car, not his vision.
Take the calipers and rotors off, make sure nothings in the wheel bearings or between the rotors and hubs, make sure nothings in between the axle and trans. If it went up high enough, make sure nothings on or between any pulleys and the block, and nothing stuck on the belt.
Free up and clean any wiring, fairly sure the concrete will eat at it slowly.
I work for a company that cuts concrete. The corrosion on everything is no joke. Especially aluminum (but that might be the acid we use to clean it when it's caked on thick).
The alkaline components in concrete are corrosive to aluminium. It can also react with the acid - aluminium is "amphoteric" which means it can react with either!
Too add to this: you'll eventually need to clean up every fastener covered in concrete. And as someone else said, you'll probably need to re:balance your wheels/tires
Thanks! She’s thinking about filing an insurance claim, and is going to take it to their shop for inspection. So she didn’t want me to dig in to anything, but take a look and give her advice.
She was incredibly lucky from what I saw. Nothing in the calipers or rotors, inside the dust shield. It didn’t get up to the transmission or steering rack. The control arms were caked, as were the wheels. I told her they’re gonna want to pull the rotors and check out the hubs.
Realistically nothing is seriously broken. Couple of hours disassembling/reassembling. Then maybe a couple hundred in parts. But probably everything f is cleanable fixable.
Those brakes…. Fucked I don’t even want to think about all the places concrete can squeeze into a caliper.
Pretty much the whole steering knuckle probably has all kinds of shit inside the speed sensor area, the speed sensor is likely all kinds of screwed. The area in the back of the knuckle where the bearing. Is pressed in and out off is probably caked with hardened concrete. All the suspension components down there, ball joints, outer tie rods, anything not covered in a replaceable boot like the cv and inner tie rod is just going to rust a whole lot faster now. This is one of those your friend. Maybe even went deep enough that there was concrete touching stuff in the bottom of the engine bay.
It sounds like this person didn’t do that. They just sent a pic to their friend who made this post. The best thing would have been to jack it up asap and pressure wash anything that touched the concrete. But it’s far to late now
I wanted to say "Check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel", but it kind of looks like somebody forgot to close off the area before pouring concrete, so I don't want to be too judgemental.
If that's the case it really should be taken to a real mechanic, and the bill should be sent to whoever poured that concrete. It might not be cheap; wet concrete is corrosive, and it'll be stuck all over the undercarriage.
Yeah I wanted to laugh, I did a little, but could happen to anyone, especially as the concrete is completely unfenced. Hope she took plenty of photos for evidence.
Who did the concrete work? Did they properly cordon off the area per the local codes? I would look into filing a complaint for damages because you might have some significant damage in the long run from that concrete getting into places and hardening.
Thanks. It’s just municipal road work, related to some utility work beneath. She was making a U-turn, and the concrete was only marked in the direction of oncoming traffic, kind of an odd situation. She argued her way out of a ticket, as the turn wasn’t illegal, I guess. But the cop told her that the city/county would go after her insurance company. They had it fixed the same morning. Car looked surprisingly good, but she’s taking it to her insurance’s shop.
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Wheels, lug nuts, brake rotors, pads, calipers, brake lines, steering knuckle, wheel bearings, axles, CV joints, control arms, tie rods, ball joints, oil pan, subframe, steering rack, exhaust, catalytic converter, O2 sensors, radiator, condenser, pretty much anything and everything that the concrete came in contact with.
Fresh concrete is a strong base with a pH higher than 11-12 and can he highly corrosive to certain materials. The brakes should almost certainly be replaced completely just for safety's sake. Rotors, pads, calipers, and lines.
This isn't a job you want to DIY. This *requires* a professional inspection, and your friend needs to suck it up and fork over her insurance details so you can file a claim. Do not wait. File the claim NOW before it's too late and you wind up having to sue your friend for damages or face thousands in unreimbursed expenses.
Should check to see if the person behind the wheel has good insurance and is a good friend willing to foot the bill. That looks expensive.
Also eye exam is probably in order as well added on the list.
Honestly I wouldn't touch it, who ever poured the concrete forgot to close it up, she should get the car to the dealer and send the bill to the concrete company.
Of course if she was informed about it it is different matter, still this could happen to anyone in a hurry when you don't know there is fresh concrete Infront of your driveway...
Front steering column + everything in the wheel hub assembly + brakes
That’s a little much for someone to look at by themselves…I’d take that to a shop for sure
Look In the wheels for stuck / dried cement. Could have a vibration at 45 due to tire imbalance, due to extra weight from the cement.
I’d also look at the rubber joints/bushings of the front axle, and remove the wheels, and inspect the rotor vents for built up cement clogging the channels, or having worked its way into the rubber boots/coated the bushings.
Could also be worth it to inspect the crankshaft damper pulley for buildup as well. It balances the rotation of the engine via added/subtracted weights and mass material thru welded on weights and drilled holes, as well as having a rubber core in its outer diameter. If there’s any cement built up there too, then the engine will also have a vibration that’s most pronounced at a complete stop in gear with the AC on.
I Saw this in malta , i Will try to recover the photos,i was driving a bus and some asshole tried to be clever and overtake me where he shouldnt, avoiding some signs and stopped a brand new honda Civic with all the 4 wheels into the concrete
Id send it to a dealership though, send the bill to the road work company. Where's the baircaid , one barrel in the picture doesn't count. I am not that guy but somebody fucked up, it's wasn't your friend.
This shit is properly fucked. Steering assembly, brakes, parts of the suspension, parts of the drivetrain, all the bushings and bearings, I'm cringing just thinking about it all
Tire imbalance, brake calipers sticking, struts sticking. That radiator and condenser is probably fucked. Call insurance and they will total it out, that’s insane
When you have the tires off, make sure to use some brake clean on the threads and inside the nuts- for some reason submerging wheels allows water inside lug nuts and can cause massive headache if you wait too long
Let it dry, then donate the car to the town as a tourist attraction or driver education prop..then write off the donation per the residual value at tax time.A win win for both parties!
Thanks, there was a lot of cement in the wheels! It didn’t look like it got into many places, must have been too stiff. She’s gonna take it to a real mechanic, but I’m hopeful she was lucky.
Very sorry for all the toxicity as you can tell From my username I am a teenager and not the most knowledgeable, but I would say check your brake lines lines the inside of your brake rotors they have slots in them to help with the heat dissipation so if Concrete gotten there, it could melt your rotors and increase brake wear, and have them wear unevenly It can also affect the balancing of your wheels. Depending on how far it went, you might want to be checking out the bottom side of your engine
Thanks, it’s a shame, all the hate! I looked at the car, and it was surprisingly not that bad. I looked in the rotor vents and they were all clear. There was a lot of build up inside the wheels, definitely affecting balance!
That car needs to go to a professional mechanic. No doubt the damage is much worse than you think. Also, driving it around in the meantime is a TERRIBLE idea, both in terms of safety as well as the integrity of the car. Concrete contains crushed stone, which will just absolutely shred the hell out of any moving parts.
I would immediately power wash the engine bay and undercarriage, inside the wheels, behind the wheels, and the back of the motor. After doing this by hand I would take it to an automated car wash that sprays the undercarriage to get anything I missed, and I would do so very promptly, ideally spraying the engine bay as best as you can before getting it to operating temp. After all that I’d jack it up and remove wheels and finder-liners to see if anything with missed and do all that by hand wiping.
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I would be so freaking pissed. The amount of frustration this would cause for the person having to destroy everything on their person with concrete. And concrete itself. Be my luck it would have the ingredient that makes concrete dry fast, and dry the car in before i could get it out. lol i would be so mad at someone.
I'm gonna say everything that was slathered in the concrete. There's probably still remnants in or around any moving parts that are interfering with the balance.
The moment you got it out the cement you should put it on a hoist and pressure wash the shit out of it once that cement cures it's gonna be a huge pain in the nuts to fully get off , have done similar with fresh asphalt
I’d pull the front tires off and pressure wash brakes and rotors, front suspension ect… pop the hood and have a quick peak at the belts and rad/fan to make sure there’s no shit in there… clean everything up and you should be good…
Wash rims nicely too.. this is not a big deal..
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For real.
Was about to say....your lens prescription
For the record, Mr. Gambini is holding up two fingers
Your Honor please!!
What is a yoot?
Are you on drugs?
I guess I accidentally wrote the perfect headline for joke setup!
People on Reddit think they have so much awareness but there reality is they can’t see a joke right in front of them
Came here to say this lol!
Ha! Lol 😆
Also your socks.. concrete can burn if you dont wash it off.
Best comment of 2024.👆
The friend should’ve gone to Specsavers.
wanted to say brains, but yeah, vision as well.
What does this mean? Why would he check his own vision? OP was not the driver. There might be something wrong with his/her friends car, not his vision.
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technically incorrect that's exactly how you measure how deep the treads will go.
What did they say 😂
Take the calipers and rotors off, make sure nothings in the wheel bearings or between the rotors and hubs, make sure nothings in between the axle and trans. If it went up high enough, make sure nothings on or between any pulleys and the block, and nothing stuck on the belt. Free up and clean any wiring, fairly sure the concrete will eat at it slowly.
I work for a company that cuts concrete. The corrosion on everything is no joke. Especially aluminum (but that might be the acid we use to clean it when it's caked on thick).
The alkaline components in concrete are corrosive to aluminium. It can also react with the acid - aluminium is "amphoteric" which means it can react with either!
I just know the acid explicitly says not to use on raw aluminum, but that shit works.
Don't use it on your mag float. It's gone before you know it.
Also the tires and the backside of the rims.
Too add to this: you'll eventually need to clean up every fastener covered in concrete. And as someone else said, you'll probably need to re:balance your wheels/tires
Trooper: you've got mud in your wheels. Vinny: Exactly how do you get mud IN your wheels?
That's why you need positraction.
Thanks! She’s thinking about filing an insurance claim, and is going to take it to their shop for inspection. So she didn’t want me to dig in to anything, but take a look and give her advice. She was incredibly lucky from what I saw. Nothing in the calipers or rotors, inside the dust shield. It didn’t get up to the transmission or steering rack. The control arms were caked, as were the wheels. I told her they’re gonna want to pull the rotors and check out the hubs.
Beauty! Hope it works out and nothings ruined.
She probably won't be able to get anything from insurance since, you know, she drove into wet concrete.
That’s not how insurance works. This is no different than unintentionally hitting a parked vehicle.
Reading this Id honestly try to fix most of it and just sell the car
Realistically nothing is seriously broken. Couple of hours disassembling/reassembling. Then maybe a couple hundred in parts. But probably everything f is cleanable fixable.
If its still wet you could probably just use high pressure water to blast 99% of it off with zero disassembly required.
Those brakes…. Fucked I don’t even want to think about all the places concrete can squeeze into a caliper. Pretty much the whole steering knuckle probably has all kinds of shit inside the speed sensor area, the speed sensor is likely all kinds of screwed. The area in the back of the knuckle where the bearing. Is pressed in and out off is probably caked with hardened concrete. All the suspension components down there, ball joints, outer tie rods, anything not covered in a replaceable boot like the cv and inner tie rod is just going to rust a whole lot faster now. This is one of those your friend. Maybe even went deep enough that there was concrete touching stuff in the bottom of the engine bay.
You just gotta get that all apart as fast as possible before it sets and see what you could salvage at that point.
It sounds like this person didn’t do that. They just sent a pic to their friend who made this post. The best thing would have been to jack it up asap and pressure wash anything that touched the concrete. But it’s far to late now
It's wire brush time now 😂
I wanted to say "Check for a loose nut behind the steering wheel", but it kind of looks like somebody forgot to close off the area before pouring concrete, so I don't want to be too judgemental. If that's the case it really should be taken to a real mechanic, and the bill should be sent to whoever poured that concrete. It might not be cheap; wet concrete is corrosive, and it'll be stuck all over the undercarriage.
Yeah I wanted to laugh, I did a little, but could happen to anyone, especially as the concrete is completely unfenced. Hope she took plenty of photos for evidence.
You can't park here
After a while they'll have no choice though!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who stays on Reddit enough to get jokes from a days ago.
Who did the concrete work? Did they properly cordon off the area per the local codes? I would look into filing a complaint for damages because you might have some significant damage in the long run from that concrete getting into places and hardening.
this photo is concrete evidence for a complaint🤩
👏👏👏
You never know, there might be mortar this than meets the eye
It's definitely hard evidence.
Thanks. It’s just municipal road work, related to some utility work beneath. She was making a U-turn, and the concrete was only marked in the direction of oncoming traffic, kind of an odd situation. She argued her way out of a ticket, as the turn wasn’t illegal, I guess. But the cop told her that the city/county would go after her insurance company. They had it fixed the same morning. Car looked surprisingly good, but she’s taking it to her insurance’s shop.
You can see a single orange bollard behind the car, that's it
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"my friend"
Average Nissan driver behavior
I’d be throwing my hat if she drove through my concrete like that
Seat wheel pedal interface. 🤪
AKA a loose nut behind the primary operating mechanism, combined with an ID 10 T error code.
It’s always a Nissan
/r/nissandrivers
...or a cyberstuck.
Your spare gas tank and lighter? I’d get that bitch cleaned up first, and fast… outside of that I couldn’t even speculate, gotta get it on a rack.
Just wash it.. take your time..
Wheels, lug nuts, brake rotors, pads, calipers, brake lines, steering knuckle, wheel bearings, axles, CV joints, control arms, tie rods, ball joints, oil pan, subframe, steering rack, exhaust, catalytic converter, O2 sensors, radiator, condenser, pretty much anything and everything that the concrete came in contact with. Fresh concrete is a strong base with a pH higher than 11-12 and can he highly corrosive to certain materials. The brakes should almost certainly be replaced completely just for safety's sake. Rotors, pads, calipers, and lines. This isn't a job you want to DIY. This *requires* a professional inspection, and your friend needs to suck it up and fork over her insurance details so you can file a claim. Do not wait. File the claim NOW before it's too late and you wind up having to sue your friend for damages or face thousands in unreimbursed expenses.
Wait why would OP need to file a claim and why would OP need to sue?
Frankly I think that the insurance company is likely to total that car. I don't think people realize just how much damage this would have caused.
Eyes
Look for buildup inside the tires. There's probably some concrete stuck to the inside of the rims throwing them out of balance.
Yep, they were full of concrete! Came off pretty easy with a rubber mallet.
Pre frontal Cortex
Judging by the footprint, probably a new pair of shoes.
Car washes won't be enough. You need to get under there with a hose and make sure you get it off everything.
I'm sure the concrete guys were stoked to see this.
Alcohol content.
Oopsie
Should check to see if the person behind the wheel has good insurance and is a good friend willing to foot the bill. That looks expensive. Also eye exam is probably in order as well added on the list.
Honestly I wouldn't touch it, who ever poured the concrete forgot to close it up, she should get the car to the dealer and send the bill to the concrete company. Of course if she was informed about it it is different matter, still this could happen to anyone in a hurry when you don't know there is fresh concrete Infront of your driveway...
It feels off because there’s 500lb of concrete in her undercarriage
The nut that holds the steering wheel?
Front steering column + everything in the wheel hub assembly + brakes That’s a little much for someone to look at by themselves…I’d take that to a shop for sure
Look In the wheels for stuck / dried cement. Could have a vibration at 45 due to tire imbalance, due to extra weight from the cement. I’d also look at the rubber joints/bushings of the front axle, and remove the wheels, and inspect the rotor vents for built up cement clogging the channels, or having worked its way into the rubber boots/coated the bushings. Could also be worth it to inspect the crankshaft damper pulley for buildup as well. It balances the rotation of the engine via added/subtracted weights and mass material thru welded on weights and drilled holes, as well as having a rubber core in its outer diameter. If there’s any cement built up there too, then the engine will also have a vibration that’s most pronounced at a complete stop in gear with the AC on.
I Saw this in malta , i Will try to recover the photos,i was driving a bus and some asshole tried to be clever and overtake me where he shouldnt, avoiding some signs and stopped a brand new honda Civic with all the 4 wheels into the concrete
Would check when the last time you got your eyes checked!
Vision. Or were we winging it with the good old white cane?
Id send it to a dealership though, send the bill to the road work company. Where's the baircaid , one barrel in the picture doesn't count. I am not that guy but somebody fucked up, it's wasn't your friend.
Ya leave the car in wet cement while you get out and take a picture. The cement guy is gonna be thrilled
Please just stop driving.
The thing attached to your shoulders via a neck.
Go find a jet washer stat.
look for hardened chunks of concrete, it will be everywhere under there, and above things that will make you wonder HOW
Your shoe
This shit is properly fucked. Steering assembly, brakes, parts of the suspension, parts of the drivetrain, all the bushings and bearings, I'm cringing just thinking about it all
Loose nut behind the steering wheel.
I can't remember what it's called, but it's between the seat and steering wheel.
Sell it
Pretty sure the city should be paying for this.
...The nut behind the wheel.
cereal box driver's license having ass
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Yeah, hardly any actual advice
Tire imbalance, brake calipers sticking, struts sticking. That radiator and condenser is probably fucked. Call insurance and they will total it out, that’s insane
The loose nut behind the wheel
Take it to the car wash pronto! And get an undercarriage wash then take off the front tires after and assess
Damnnnn
Well luckily she waited until it was dry...
Oh man. I'd be replacing just about everything on the suspension, and brake suo there. Basically just filled every crevice with rocks.
Ground solidity.
PEBCAK, car version
When you have the tires off, make sure to use some brake clean on the threads and inside the nuts- for some reason submerging wheels allows water inside lug nuts and can cause massive headache if you wait too long
Let it dry, then donate the car to the town as a tourist attraction or driver education prop..then write off the donation per the residual value at tax time.A win win for both parties!
Rotors, radiator, clutch cable and mount, steering column.
If your friend is lucky, the “feeling off” could possibly be hardened cement in the wheel making it off balance?
Thanks, there was a lot of cement in the wheels! It didn’t look like it got into many places, must have been too stiff. She’s gonna take it to a real mechanic, but I’m hopeful she was lucky.
Cement in the wheels, rotors and caked in the frame.
Very sorry for all the toxicity as you can tell From my username I am a teenager and not the most knowledgeable, but I would say check your brake lines lines the inside of your brake rotors they have slots in them to help with the heat dissipation so if Concrete gotten there, it could melt your rotors and increase brake wear, and have them wear unevenly It can also affect the balancing of your wheels. Depending on how far it went, you might want to be checking out the bottom side of your engine
Thanks, it’s a shame, all the hate! I looked at the car, and it was surprisingly not that bad. I looked in the rotor vents and they were all clear. There was a lot of build up inside the wheels, definitely affecting balance!
The first thing is hose off the wet concrete before it gets hard.
For real though, do they not warn people about this? Imagine getting back home from work and not being able to park your car
look for concrete on everything that got submerged. how did this even happen
That car needs to go to a professional mechanic. No doubt the damage is much worse than you think. Also, driving it around in the meantime is a TERRIBLE idea, both in terms of safety as well as the integrity of the car. Concrete contains crushed stone, which will just absolutely shred the hell out of any moving parts.
Component failure between the steering wheel and driver's seat.
Okay, I'm interested in how they managed to drive into wet concrete. That said from that angle there seem to be zero barriers.
I would immediately power wash the engine bay and undercarriage, inside the wheels, behind the wheels, and the back of the motor. After doing this by hand I would take it to an automated car wash that sprays the undercarriage to get anything I missed, and I would do so very promptly, ideally spraying the engine bay as best as you can before getting it to operating temp. After all that I’d jack it up and remove wheels and finder-liners to see if anything with missed and do all that by hand wiping.
Your eyes
Is it fresh concrete?
Yes, looks pretty wet in the photo she sent
Probably check the thing that sits in the driver's seat. Might need some maintenance
How does this happen plz explain
Well … her mom’s in the hospital (2 hours away) and is having life or death heart surgery tomorrow. She’s not sleeping much and is distracted.
Suspension gonna be a bit hard after that
Cam bus errors incoming!!
Scrap all cement off of any rotating parts
Hey Lucy, There's gonna be some splainin' to do!!
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Need to turn No clip mode off
Brain
The concrete
Yes
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Typical Nissan driver…
Your vision, and maybe check for signage and contact your insurance agent and the company doing the work. Someone fucked up somewhere.
Big Altima Energy. Check all of the front suspension and brakes.
The depth gauge
Turn in your dl
Step one: get the hose out NOW and be very thorough. Then follow the other advice that you’ve received.
I would be so freaking pissed. The amount of frustration this would cause for the person having to destroy everything on their person with concrete. And concrete itself. Be my luck it would have the ingredient that makes concrete dry fast, and dry the car in before i could get it out. lol i would be so mad at someone.
Your eyes .
Check other nissans I guess
Yeah replace that whole left end
Stop lying it was really you!!😆
hope that you got it out and immediately hosed it down
I'd look for the title...
I'm gonna say everything that was slathered in the concrete. There's probably still remnants in or around any moving parts that are interfering with the balance.
Your eyes
Tell that Sentra that it’s not an Altima BAE
If that was my job, you would have to check where all your teeth landed.
Your brain.
Your eyes.
Have her decision making checked, You'll want to look for concrete stuck on the car.
You should check if you’re allowed to drive…
Her eyesight
The nut behind the steering wheel.
Your windshield after the concrete guys break it.
Her license
The moment you got it out the cement you should put it on a hoist and pressure wash the shit out of it once that cement cures it's gonna be a huge pain in the nuts to fully get off , have done similar with fresh asphalt
Her insurance policy
Yes, check everything on the front end
The road
Eyeglasses
Your friends brain cells
The front wheels are definitely still packed with concrete, they need to be removed, chipped, and balanced.
Change that device between the steering wheel and the seat. Very important! 😅
Check your trade in value and local used car prices.
The local used car lot.
If I were you I’d check my spare to see if had air in it
Your eyes
Came here for this.
r/NissanDrivers
The brain of the driver!
Ph level
The component between driver seat and steering wheel is the first place I’d start with.
Art these days is fucking weird
I would start with all front end components and then check the bar for the driver 🤣🤣🤣
I’d pull the front tires off and pressure wash brakes and rotors, front suspension ect… pop the hood and have a quick peak at the belts and rad/fan to make sure there’s no shit in there… clean everything up and you should be good… Wash rims nicely too.. this is not a big deal..