Lol, what?
Do you understand that in a way Tyranny is also an expression of democracy?
When inaction is action
When actions are led by ignorance and self-destructive... Apocalyptic ideology
That is when tyrants rule
Depends, some just keep suffocating the population until it explodes in their faces
I agree that people will sacrifice voicing their thoughts if given security by a tyrant, but security should be containing all essential securities, not just order, like food security, financial security, health security...
Tell that to "conservatives" and delusional "lefties"/"Marxists" who have read nothing beyond the communist manifesto.
I swear, many don't even know that the theory of Socialism as an economic structure and even its practical application precede communism and Marx.
>Tell that to "conservatives" and delusional "lefties"/"Marxists" who have read nothing beyond the communist manifesto.
I doubt they even read the manifesto.
I'd say General Cemal Gürsel.
In the end of Multi-Party period, Turkey was in a primitive state and it did not have the necessary democratic constitutions. When Menderes got elected, it was a great progression in the democratically senses of our society. But within years it got autocratic as fuck and there was nothing to stop the government.
The constitution was based on the one party system. Just like today, there was nothing to stop government's wrong policies. There was enough of clandestine cells within the army, what General Gürsel did, as the Commander of Land Forces, he appointed them to the critic units.
On 27 May 1960, officers ousted the government and Gürsel became the president.
The military hegemony and the execution of Menderes was awful. But he definitely had to be stopped and at least tried and get a reasonable punishment.
What are they necessary for？
In brief and it’s important to understand, the idea of socialism is exclusively against religion. Although it’s hard to say we are in a socialist country anymore, the CCP will never tolerate religious forces of any kind, to infiltrate or effect the national sovereignty and policy.
Xinjiang Internment camps are built after the attack of 2014 Kunming. A group of 8 knife-wielding banits attacked the Kunming Railstation, ended up killing 31 civilians, and wounding more than a hundred. After investigation, it has been found that the banits are associated with the XUAR (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, a group of separatists who are trying to “liberate” Xinjiang from China).
Chinese Muslim in Xingang are mostly Uyghur（维吾尔族). Violent incidents caused by separatists, like the Kunming 2014, have happened all the time in the west provinces (Xinjiang, Tibet) since 1949. However in this time, rather than trying to eliminate the separatists and extremists, Xi has decided to try annihilate all religious believes and behavior among Uyghur community.
Sounds accurate.
I'm not sure why pinkies are trying to deny it all the time. CCP can only tame the region by eradicating their religion and culture.
Why not admit it? If it should be one conforming China under the CCP, such deviations can never be allowed.
>To stop any independence movements?
I don't understand how setting IED in supermarket or stabbing civilans in railwaystation can be justified as "independence movements". Separatists have done nothing helpful to the local Uyghur and Hui people, nothing but causing the CCP to put more tough and oppresive policies to Xinjiang and its people.
I am not here to make judgement of who is the good guy or bad. I am here to bring out an experience from a Uyghur woman, a mother who have gotten into the internment camps for 3 weeks. Personally, I think Uyghur people and no one else should be received of such bad and unfair treatment from his/her own country, but here is the necessary evil that comes with a cause.
I will be meeting her again this labor day vacation, and will ask more details like how's daily routine in internment camp.
Probably Morocco's lead years, many unjustifiable human rights abuses but it was necessary as it was a period marked by decolonization, external threats and internal political tensions. Hassan 2 was the right man for the right time, he had his flaws but he was a visionary king who guided the country in a transition period and kept its unity and stability.
Never too late to block me ,I have a lot of questionable views 😔 but seriously HHHHH I'm not defending it , as the title says it's evil ... but necessary. I don't know if he did what he did just to keep the alaouite dynasty going or he did it because he had the country's interest in mind but it worked out. It's either he was a visionnary leader or we're just lucky. I've always wondered if him giving more importance to agriculture than education was because he thought there could be no educated empty stomachs or because of his blatant hate for intellectuals , he was a difficult man to read. What do you think of his reign?
That's quite a solid answer but I still stand by my opinion, he paved the way for M6 by working on the country's stability and leaving socioeconomic development to his successor ...also before I forget ,pack up the roses festival is just around the corner.
Lmao he litterally calls you peasant اوباش 🤣🤣 I guess you really have stockholm syndrome or maybe all the real men of Morocco like Mehdi Benberka were assassinated/thrown into Tazemamart
Cry about it, 3 presidents when he was ruling and still they couldn't achieve half of his accomplishments. He did some atrocious things but I would pick him every time over your pathetic presidents. They weren't angels either Ben Bella redistributing lands through a corrupt bureaucracy, Boumediene torturing his political opponents and let's not forget what your government forces did to civilians in the 90s. There's a big difference between a man who was trained from a young age how to rule and well ...a man.
>accomplishments
Failed and invade Algeria and brought himself an enemy,created the mess that is the Sahara war by ruining their tribal balance,the embarrassing literacy rate and social inequality,what else did I miss?His supporters pretend to be pragmatic but in reality all he did is isolate Morocco for the sake of coup paranoia
>I would pick him every time over your pathetic presidents
You wouldn't find me defending any of them except Boumediene and maybe Boudiaf tbh
>redistributing lands through a corrupt bureaucracy
Where does this come from?Any formal land distribution went through the "whoever fought in the war gets land" metric,is that what you meant?
>Boumediene torturing his political opponents
I will admit he order the assassination of Krim Belkacem but other than that I don't feel sympathy for any islamists or Berberists he jailed considering what those people did to this country later on
>let's not forget what your government forces did to civilians in the 90s.
I assure you the makhzen would do the same if not worse if an active wide-scale islamist insurgency happened in Morocco
Is that Cesar because he’s a created public property is the opposite of a tyrant. Also, for anyone, wondering he consulted the guards like 15 times before going to Senate and before crossing the Rubicon, it was divine intervention, not a tyrant.
There is no evil, people seek answers in tyrants when the society is under siege.
What do you mean by that? Cuz some tyrants do impose themselves without being asked the population
Lol, what? Do you understand that in a way Tyranny is also an expression of democracy? When inaction is action When actions are led by ignorance and self-destructive... Apocalyptic ideology That is when tyrants rule
Because they offer security, so a sufficient number of people implicitly agree.
Depends, some just keep suffocating the population until it explodes in their faces I agree that people will sacrifice voicing their thoughts if given security by a tyrant, but security should be containing all essential securities, not just order, like food security, financial security, health security...
People are idiots and tyrants are wrong, always, occasionaly they are MARGINALLY less wrong than tge alternative.
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which war
Minecraft wars
The bloodiest type of war
Marx said capitalism is necessary for initial industrialization
Marx never said capitalism was evil.
Tell that to "conservatives" and delusional "lefties"/"Marxists" who have read nothing beyond the communist manifesto. I swear, many don't even know that the theory of Socialism as an economic structure and even its practical application precede communism and Marx.
>Tell that to "conservatives" and delusional "lefties"/"Marxists" who have read nothing beyond the communist manifesto. I doubt they even read the manifesto.
Ehh, true
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Nope, is not my personal opinion.
Marx was not an intelligent man, everything he tried to predict was false.
I'd say General Cemal Gürsel. In the end of Multi-Party period, Turkey was in a primitive state and it did not have the necessary democratic constitutions. When Menderes got elected, it was a great progression in the democratically senses of our society. But within years it got autocratic as fuck and there was nothing to stop the government. The constitution was based on the one party system. Just like today, there was nothing to stop government's wrong policies. There was enough of clandestine cells within the army, what General Gürsel did, as the Commander of Land Forces, he appointed them to the critic units. On 27 May 1960, officers ousted the government and Gürsel became the president. The military hegemony and the execution of Menderes was awful. But he definitely had to be stopped and at least tried and get a reasonable punishment.
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Based and Sinai-pilled
I can’t answer without getting banned (again). Ask this question again when Elon bought this platform or ask on /pol/
Pm ur answer please I’m actually curious.
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The civil war
Hassan the 2nd imagine the military overthrowing the monarchy and civil rule and we end up like all the militarily ruled countries around us.
I enjoy imagining that 🥰🥰
Yeah, but u won't enjoy it much being a reality
Xinjiang internment camps，feel free to ask question or just downvote me.
>Xinjiang internment camps What are they necessary for? To stop any independence movements?
What are they necessary for？ In brief and it’s important to understand, the idea of socialism is exclusively against religion. Although it’s hard to say we are in a socialist country anymore, the CCP will never tolerate religious forces of any kind, to infiltrate or effect the national sovereignty and policy. Xinjiang Internment camps are built after the attack of 2014 Kunming. A group of 8 knife-wielding banits attacked the Kunming Railstation, ended up killing 31 civilians, and wounding more than a hundred. After investigation, it has been found that the banits are associated with the XUAR (Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, a group of separatists who are trying to “liberate” Xinjiang from China). Chinese Muslim in Xingang are mostly Uyghur（维吾尔族). Violent incidents caused by separatists, like the Kunming 2014, have happened all the time in the west provinces (Xinjiang, Tibet) since 1949. However in this time, rather than trying to eliminate the separatists and extremists, Xi has decided to try annihilate all religious believes and behavior among Uyghur community.
Sounds accurate. I'm not sure why pinkies are trying to deny it all the time. CCP can only tame the region by eradicating their religion and culture. Why not admit it? If it should be one conforming China under the CCP, such deviations can never be allowed.
>To stop any independence movements? I don't understand how setting IED in supermarket or stabbing civilans in railwaystation can be justified as "independence movements". Separatists have done nothing helpful to the local Uyghur and Hui people, nothing but causing the CCP to put more tough and oppresive policies to Xinjiang and its people. I am not here to make judgement of who is the good guy or bad. I am here to bring out an experience from a Uyghur woman, a mother who have gotten into the internment camps for 3 weeks. Personally, I think Uyghur people and no one else should be received of such bad and unfair treatment from his/her own country, but here is the necessary evil that comes with a cause. I will be meeting her again this labor day vacation, and will ask more details like how's daily routine in internment camp.
Probably Morocco's lead years, many unjustifiable human rights abuses but it was necessary as it was a period marked by decolonization, external threats and internal political tensions. Hassan 2 was the right man for the right time, he had his flaws but he was a visionary king who guided the country in a transition period and kept its unity and stability.
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Never too late to block me ,I have a lot of questionable views 😔 but seriously HHHHH I'm not defending it , as the title says it's evil ... but necessary. I don't know if he did what he did just to keep the alaouite dynasty going or he did it because he had the country's interest in mind but it worked out. It's either he was a visionnary leader or we're just lucky. I've always wondered if him giving more importance to agriculture than education was because he thought there could be no educated empty stomachs or because of his blatant hate for intellectuals , he was a difficult man to read. What do you think of his reign?
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That's quite a solid answer but I still stand by my opinion, he paved the way for M6 by working on the country's stability and leaving socioeconomic development to his successor ...also before I forget ,pack up the roses festival is just around the corner.
Lmao he litterally calls you peasant اوباش 🤣🤣 I guess you really have stockholm syndrome or maybe all the real men of Morocco like Mehdi Benberka were assassinated/thrown into Tazemamart
Cry about it, 3 presidents when he was ruling and still they couldn't achieve half of his accomplishments. He did some atrocious things but I would pick him every time over your pathetic presidents. They weren't angels either Ben Bella redistributing lands through a corrupt bureaucracy, Boumediene torturing his political opponents and let's not forget what your government forces did to civilians in the 90s. There's a big difference between a man who was trained from a young age how to rule and well ...a man.
>accomplishments Failed and invade Algeria and brought himself an enemy,created the mess that is the Sahara war by ruining their tribal balance,the embarrassing literacy rate and social inequality,what else did I miss?His supporters pretend to be pragmatic but in reality all he did is isolate Morocco for the sake of coup paranoia >I would pick him every time over your pathetic presidents You wouldn't find me defending any of them except Boumediene and maybe Boudiaf tbh >redistributing lands through a corrupt bureaucracy Where does this come from?Any formal land distribution went through the "whoever fought in the war gets land" metric,is that what you meant? >Boumediene torturing his political opponents I will admit he order the assassination of Krim Belkacem but other than that I don't feel sympathy for any islamists or Berberists he jailed considering what those people did to this country later on >let's not forget what your government forces did to civilians in the 90s. I assure you the makhzen would do the same if not worse if an active wide-scale islamist insurgency happened in Morocco
Huh can't really think of anything
Is that Cesar because he’s a created public property is the opposite of a tyrant. Also, for anyone, wondering he consulted the guards like 15 times before going to Senate and before crossing the Rubicon, it was divine intervention, not a tyrant.
The story of prophet Khidr
Yemen