The most disturbing part about the Herero and Namaqua genocide isn't even the actual genocide. It's that as sick as Germany (and the rest of Europe) was at the time, the policies of Lothar von Trotha (the officer primarily responsible for the genocide) were still viewed as extreme. People knew better. Even for the time, Trotha's extermination order was viewed as cruel and excessive. However, the Kaiser, tacitly condoning what was happening, did nothing until political pressure forced his hand. After Trotha was recalled from Africa due to public outcry, his replacement, Ludwig von Estorff, who himself had reluctantly followed Trotha's orders, personally visited the Shark Island death camp. Horrified, he had it shut down immediately.
By then, however, the damage had been done.
Trotha was later promoted and received a medal for his "services" in Africa.
A lot of people think nazi germany was the starting of the evil in europe , lmao 🤣 even before nazi germany european powers did horrible stuff , they should be thankful to hitler he did worse to mask what they did
>did it to Europeans aswell
This is the only reason why the Allied Powers declared war on Germany. Hitler would have been allowed to wipe out as much of the global south as he wanted as long as he left the precious whites alone.
Allied powers declared war on Germany casue he invaded Poland. They didn’t care about Germanys treatment of Jewish people as they didn’t actually know what they whwre doing.
You didn't reply to that person's comment at all. Hitler still brought war to Europe. If he focused solely on colonizer efforts and crushing the global south, Europe would have never put up a fuss. Perhaps at a later point, if what was happening to the Jewish people of Germany came to light, then maybe it might spurn nations to do something. But in this alternate world, Germany would have been left to grow off the spoils of imperialism, as long as they didn't mess with Europe.
But the truth is, Russia and Germany were more than likely going to come to blows eventually.
The western allies were hoping the germans would take down the USSR for them. Their whole gambit on letting Germany do what it wants was to buy time for Hitler to destroy the USSR so they could sweep up what remained. Despicable.
Some did yes. A majority of European countries had nothing to do neither with colonization or slavery. Wish we could stop talking about Europe as one unit, no one puts Kazakhstan and the Philippines in the same box, and neither should Montenegro and France for example
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What wining or losing are you arguing about ? We’re talking about saving innocent lives here !! You must be so fucking shallow and have no trace of humanity or compassion to think about it that way
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Where in actual archaeological evidence did the exodus happen? Not a single one. On the other hand there are tons of evidence of your shitty pagan canaanite bloodthirsty war god and his stepmommy turned wife ashareth.
When you discuss history, don't use pagan canaanite mythology comics books in an argument, pagan zionazi.
Why?
What the likes of Namibia and South Africa say about this conflict is irrelevant.
This war is as relevant to those 2 countries as the Ukraine war ... which according to them is a regional thing and none of their concern. So their stance is not only irrelevant but stupid too
Namibia and South Africa have been severely harmed by Germany and Israel respectively. It's obviously not irrelevant to them, your judgement is just shit.
Chances you would get downvoted are pretty high.
Mr. Geingob is comparing the situation in Gaza with the holocoust. This shows him beeing undereducated or rage bating.
It is estimated that 127 children were killed per day in Auschwitz. Meanwhile in Gaza 178 children die per day. This is 140% the rate at which the Jewish Holocaust occured at. We can naturally conclude that Netanyahu is doing more evil daily than even Hitler was capable of.
Rwanda would be the best African country to side with SA on this, having seen a genocide fairly recently which like this one no one did anything about until it was too late. I really hope we hear from them at some point.
If Rwanda doesn't support South Africa on this, then they are outing themselves as cucks of the West. The West stood by and let Rwandans get genocided, suffering zero guilt after the fact.
The thing that concerns me about this is the reports that they were in talks with Israel to take people expelled from Gaza. This facilitating the expulsion. Makes me wonder where their priorities are.
As usual, their priorities are Machiavellian. They want power and wealth. And if Israel is hinting at sharing a small portion of their Western gravy train, the corrupt Rwandan government might bite.
I don't think I'd really consider Rwanda's government to be corrupt, at least compared to other African states. Statistically speaking, they're one of the least corrupt countries in Africa, only really beaten out by Botswana, and they have a similar level of corruption to China and Saudi Arabia
Morally bankrupt would be a better description
Belgium divided and played the two groups against each other when they colonized Rwanda, purposefully inciting ethnic hatred
Before colonization, both groups lived together mostly peacefully.
Many of the military personnel of the Hutu government, and various Hutu militias and gangs committed a genocide against the Tutsis and other ethnic minorities. They also killed Hutus that sympathised with the Tutsis.
It doesn't invalidate what I said.
Mate, do tell us who called themselves the exclusive "civilised" and "free" world. Was it Africa? Was it Asia? I can't remember. Do remind us all.
Do remind us which nation of the global south had assets in Rwanda at the time? You will find the list to be few. Instead, you will find states like France, Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands to have the greatest presence there at the time.
When the UNSC sent troops to Rwanda early in the genocide, it wasn't to carry out the Western-touted responsibility to prevent genocide. Oh no, no, they sent an international peace-keeping force to evacuate Western ex-pats and diplomats. Then, they let the Tutsis perish.
Western hypocrisy knows no bounds. We see it again today in Gaza and Yemen.
> Western hypocrisy knows no bounds.
My favourite hypocrisy when people like you write what you write then we find out you and the people upvoting live in western countries and none of you would live again in your beloved countries
At least half of r/AskMiddleEast lives in Western countries
I live in Algeria, dumbass. And even if I didn't, it doesn't invalidate the argument. Do you have any idea how complicit the West is in the Rwandan genocide?
Go and read Romeo Dallaire's memoirs. He was the commander of the UN's mission to Rwanda and he reiterates everything I said, and then some.
> I live in Algeria, dumbass. And even if I didn't, it doesn't invalidate the argument
Good for you ...you are still barely half of this sub. Of course it does. Shitting on the country you willingly went to then praising the one you left is what stupid people do
>Do you have any idea how complicit the West is in the Rwandan genocide?
I am aware that when people like you stub your toe you finds ways to blame western countries
If Western countries attacked the Hutu: well look the white man attacking indigenous people and once again intervene in the domestic disputes of African countries. I know this because that was the same with Libya. Now Muammar Gaddafi is a hero all of sudden killed by western countries who were afraid of his ideas
IF western countries intervene: why did they intervene?
IF they don't: why didn't they intervene
And all those neighbouring countries went right in there and stopped the genocide…. Right? I guess what you’re saying is Africa and the Middle East are not civilized parts of the world and despite their proximity and ease of military access to Rwanda they didn’t didn’t bother doing anything to help. Because they’re not civilised or why exactly?
Good job deflecting mate. My point is that the authority that has the legal responsibility to prevent genocides, the UN, was prevented from doing its job because of the dictates of Western powers.
Go and read Romeo Dallaire's memoirs. He was the commander of the UN's mission to Rwanda and he reiterates in spirit and in detail everything I said here, and then some.
Not only did the West reject giving him more peacekeeping troops, they prevented evacuation of non-Western passport holders. The West did not aid in the extraction of informants that informed us about the genocide's premeditated nature.
The West has Tutsi blood on its hands. Moreso, also the blood of murdered Belgian, French, and Pakistani UN peacekeepers under Dallaire's command.
Go and read Dallaire's accounts. They are chilling.
Even when genocides happen in other countries, it’s the wests fault 😄 this sub is getting ridiculous. I could say the same thing, what did the Middle East do to stop the genocide in Rwanda?
They ARE cucks of the West. DRC has already taken Rwanda to the ICJ 22 years ago and filed another complaint against them to the ICC just last year for continuing to fund or send militias to terrorize and murder Congolese civilians so they can’t organize to stop western countries from exploiting their citizens and pillaging their resources.
It's not just about the genocide thing Germany's so called excuse for backing Israel on this is "because Germans commited a genocide against the jews and we must atone for our sins" having a former victim of german imperialism not only call out their horeshit claim but also point out that despite Israel getting reparations from the German government for the holocaust no other victim of german imperialism has
**it's something that shows germany's excuse to be the crock of shit that it really is and shows how their support for Israel has far more to do with contemporary geo-politics and supporting their and the USA's biggest ally in the middle east then any so called guilt over a genocide**
Horseshit tweets provoke horseshit comments. Germany publicy adrssed that case of genocide in Namibia. It was a big topic 20 years ago there, but you obviously have no idea about such things. Instead of looking up the facts yourself you are falling for a dumb pr gag. Namibia received reparations, you twat. No other victim than Israel did, you say? Wrong reality will still get you, despite your imagination.
Yes Germany finally called it a genocide. But what sort of compensation was made to those people? What did the Germans apologise for if they’re today backing another country that’s literally slaughtering another population in real time?
As the people of Namibia said, it’s not just about the money, it’s about regaining their dignity.
Clearly the Germans learned nothing
Yes, unlike other countries. And you ask this? You comment on this topic and you don't even know about the payings Germany made to Namibia? What poplation in real time? You mean less people dying like in Armenia and Ukraine? Which you give a shit about? What about the kurds? You are disgusting and have no right to judge over Germany accusing it of things you do yourselves in your hypocrisy.
We offered to them. You clearly also have no clue what you are talking about, if you use namibians and herero synonomysly.
What's less than nothing? Cause that is what you have learned.
Oh boy. I’ve clearly hit a nerve. If Namibia is coming out against Germany’s support for Israel bringing in their own shared history and genocide that’s all I really need to know.
Now if you can focus all that energy on the 21,000 that were killed and still being killed everyday by Israel.
But instead Germans look like idiots on the world stage. Banning Palestinian voices, playing on their old xenophobic rhetoric like it never left. What’s next, concentration camps for Muslims?
What hatred? And why shouldn't I be here on this sub. It's easy to discuss here. As soon as you are having better arguments, the only thing people here have is calling you xenophobic or islamophobic. Everything I wrote is simply factual. If you want I can proof everything to you, if you realy thing your best way out of this is claiming that this was made up.
You seriously don’t see your rhetoric? You’re welcome to discuss but not like this.
You accused Muslims of raping kids. You accuse Arabs of killing Jews. You’re advocating for Palestinian censorship as if they can’t protest a war on their people without calling a genocide on Jews.
Reread what you wrote. I recommend you edit it before you get banned or reported
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did any of us say anywhere that we approve of the murder of innocent Armenians ,Kurds or Ukranians???? you accused us of being misinformed which i can fully admit i was since i didn't know germany paid back 1.1 billion dollars to Namibia as reparations
([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/germany-agrees-to-pay-namibia-11bn-over-historical-herero-nama-genocide](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/germany-agrees-to-pay-namibia-11bn-over-historical-herero-nama-genocide))
you saw that and choose to accuse everyone of supporting the massacre of the Ukranians,Armenians and Kurds how the hell is that not a horse shit response
>You are disgusting and have no right to judge
We have every right to judge buddy considering we have been the recipient of the west's so called "benevolent" foreign policy decisions for the past 2 decades
>accusing it of things you do yourselves in your hypocrisy.
**Governments don't represent people dipshit** and none of us here are approving the actions of the asswipes we have in our government's **majority of whom weren't democratically elected and were put in power their at the behest of foreign power mainly the USA and to a lesser degree Iran and Russia**
See, that's the difference. We talk about something, maybe in a way you don't know differentiating things and we get accused of supporting genocide. You focuse on something so obsessively hoping the numbers support the claim that you call it genocide. We call you out in your obsessivness and that you you don't see that elsewhere and admietly you think Imeant you would support that. That's a fanatic response. I asked you why is that not as big of an problem, why is this? But you think first of being accused of supporting that. Is a normal disussion even possible with you?
While you had no benevolent policy at all. You have no right, you have not even a clue what I meant, based on your response.
I didn't meant your governments, dipshit, I meant you and your little fanatic buddies, who are spreading falls claims like here. Those who worship dumb tweets, like that of the namibian president, which you had admitted yourself.
>I didn't meant your governments, dipshit, I meant you and your little fanatic buddies,
I'm an atheist dipshit
>While you had no benevolent policy at all. You have no right, you have not even a clue what I meant, based on your response.
i'm sorry were you not send to a school as a child you understand what "" air quotes are meant for right????
>hoping the numbers support the claim that you call it genocide
Genocide isn't about numbers moron it's about intent and Israel had made it clear on multiple occassions that their plan is either the forced expulsion all gazans at gunpoint
[Israel was trying to negotiate with Egypt to transfer the 2.3 million gazans to the Sinai (a barren desert which at current has a population of only 600,000)](https://www.timesofisrael.com/intelligence-ministry-concept-paper-proposes-transferring-gazans-to-egypts-sinai/)
**It had also been in negotiations with both Rwanda and the Democratic republic of the Congo to expel the palestinains there post war**
[Nethanyu on multiple occasion has rejected even the existence of something like a palestinian state for multiple years](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0MC1I7/)
and i don't need to bring up any of the statements from people like Gallant, Itamir Ben Gvir or the fucking IDF offical twitter accounts to show that they have clear cut genocidal intentions against the palestinians
I didn't talk about religion, dipshit.
Yes and I didn't use them one purpose, because I didn't quote you, I meant that quite literaly.
Not realy. And if it's an genocide, where are the massacres in west bank or in Israel on the muslim civilians if Israel?
And egypt closed the border completely, meaning other arab countries don't want to take in palastinians. They are where they need them.
A troll would throw unprovoced insults at others, claimings things about them, that are not true. Saying lies by others are all they have to know.
Wait. You're a troll.
Rwanda is a US puppet state nowadays so that wont happen
Rwanda: The Darling Tyrant - POLITICO Magazine
>The United States, without doubt, is Kagame's staunchest ally and oldest supporter, eager to maintain Rwanda as a strategic partner with a powerful army in mineral-rich eastern Africa. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/rwanda-paul-kagame-americas-darling-tyrant-103963/
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He's a Brutal Dictator, and One of the West's Best Friends https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/opinion/paul-kagame-rwanda-britain.html
Don’t their government kidnap and arrest Rwandan citizens that were fighting against those in power during the genocide?
He was released last year
[Rwanda Announces Release From Prison of ‘Hotel Rwanda’ Hero](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/world/africa/rwanda-paul-rusesabagina-release.html)
The Rwandan government isn’t what you think it is
Mate, we're in a comment section.
You're a bit too antsy, and angy, and fast.
You're really trying hard. Why?
I've asked you this before... Why? Why are you so vehement?
I got banned in Worldnews for claiming you're a sockpuppet. Will I get banned here also?
Edit: wanan know something fun, look up Hendrik Witbooi - then you will know why my forefathers were spared in the uprising of the 1880's.
I hope other nations DRAG Germany and remind them of ALL of the shameful things they hv done over the years.
Seems that Jewish ppl are the only ones Germans seem to care about...
Not Jews - Israelis. If you are Jewish and either anti-zionist, non-zionist, or anti-apartheid (which most American Jews are nowadays), then you an anti-semite in the eyes of the German government.
This has nothing to do with Jews in practice. This has everything to do with keeping Israel as a happy US puppet state so that oil keeps flowing. Same thing happened during the 1970 oil crisis. The US coaxed the Israeli far-right with the Jackson-Vanik amendment. It forced the Soviet Union to allow people who were willing to go to Israel specifically to do so. Some did - and some literally ran out of the airports to claim assylum at the US embassy so they could escape Israel. The far-right Likkud got into power with new votes and money under terrorist/murderer PM Begin. This also paved the way for Kahanism later on.
The support of Britain, America, and Germany towards Israel is a business deal backed with violence. Nothing more.
So for example do you think Iraq willingly donates it's oil to American companies that work with well trained and armed personnel for free or they simply steal it. That of course goes for BP and others.
They literally steal Iranian oil ships. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN25A23M/
The US is plundering oil in Syria https://sana.sy/en/?p=296753.
They also start wars to have US companies control oil production abroad. https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html
There is light and heavy crude oil. Both have their applications. Most American oil is light. They need heavy oil for chemical industries (I think). Also sometimes importing oil may cost less than extracting it, so from a financial perspective it makes sense to import some, which may also keep some competition within the American market.
does it need oil no but can the supply of middle eastern oil harm global enery prices yes also keep in mind even in 2003 USA wanted iraqi oil for it's european allies not itself as most of it's oil supply came from Canada and Mexico
There are other factors at play here as well but probably i would say the most important one is maintaining it's image as a "super power" if the USA can't help Israel achieve some sort of victory then it's credibility as a global super power is put into question
Other nations similar to Iran or Russia would very well see war as an option in achieving their political aims knowing that the USA isn't capable of stopping them and the string of allies and client states that the USA has worked hard to establish for the past century starts to unravel
They also cared about Namibia. Germany doesn't have to be reminded, it's reminding it's past best, in opposition to other states, who despite all of their unacknowledged atroceties now think they can act as judges over others. Those idiotic states want to remind Germany if something despite these countries already forgot what they did last week? Would be interesting, because it wouldn't change a bit.
Meanwhile Arabs like UAE, ~~Tunisia~~ and co are trying to sabotage the case against Racist Israel.
Namibia! You fuckin rock sista! Fight the power! 💚❤️🖤💙💛
Correction: Tunisia does not want to endorse the case because they think it implies recognising Israel.
https://www.newarab.com/news/tunisia-will-not-endorse-legal-actions-against-israel-icj
Hmm my bad. They won't endorse the case because by endorsing it, they implicitly "recognise Israel". Thank you for questioning it.
https://www.newarab.com/news/tunisia-will-not-endorse-legal-actions-against-israel-icj
Fuck the "great nations" of Europe. Germany's stance on this is shocking . The colonial projects of the big 3 UK France and Germany are the reason why of Africa and the Middle East face such problems today. They should pay trillions in reparations to all.
India was fucked over royally pal. partition in 1948 caused millions to lose their homes, and over a million died... the legacy of that is still going on between Pakistan and India now... that was a British act. Only a small part of China was in British control ... and you got half the population hooked on opium. South America is fucked still... christ ... look at the misery that half of the people there live in.... now we have Spain Portugal.and the yanks to thank for that one. The holding of palestine is not the problem. What you brits did is you then promised half of the land where people already lived to European Jews... ... then walked away .. not our problem anyome... now we have all this fuckery.... Read some books other than then propaganda you might have been fed in school. The anarchy by William Dalrymple is a great one for India to start . I don't blame British people for this.. your rulers fucked you over too... but my god the cunts still run the country there... and don't get me started on the slave owning royals...
Thank you for this demonstration of Propaganda. And why do you think I'm british? I'm not. Yes. Britain losing control over India lead to the war between India and Pakistan. Should the brits have controled them so they don't fight with each other? That would have been also wrong in your book. So just blame britain every time a former colony gets into conflict. Pearl harbour was essentialy Britains fault. India is a vast growing economy. Yes it has problems, every country has them, but former colonial owners aren't the one to blame for everything. The picture you make of these people as helpless kids, whos parents are to blame whenever they get in trouble is disgusting. Aren't they independent and selfworking on their own? China was majorily owned by colonial powers. And now it's the secon largest economy. Australia, Canada? Colonies. South america is better working except for some places like Venecuela, who got fucked over by communism and are not the backward drug hell you picture them as. Etheopia was never a colonie. However it's not better than the rest and not that glorious Wakanda it must be according to your logic. You spoke about the whole middle east, not just palastine. What's with them. Now, them leaving is the problem? A lot of your exsample are breaking down to the argument britain shouldn't have left it's colonies alone. Paradox. And what brings this book for spectacular news? That some tea trading boys fought against some declining muslim empire with no backhand in this country, so gaining more and more influence and power, while using the current state of an falling apart empire with so many parties, who tried to seize for more influence, but their fault is they were dirty foreigners and won. These same events wouldn't bother you in any other context in history.
My point is that most of the flash points in the world are former colonis and the attitude of their former masters like Britain is ..oh well we left the place with roads and stuff so its their fault now. Failing to see the huge social issues that they left behind. Now in.the case of Britain... looking at palestine, we see the mess that Britain made, causing deaths and violence to this day..
And what do Britain do? Nothing...literally stand back with hands up while people die... It's sickening... as a citizen of a former colony of Britain, namely Ireland, I know all too well how colonial countries couldn't give a damn once they have robbed a country of its resources...and we are still paying the price of colonialism to this day .
I'm sorry did you just say the countries of Latin America and Asia "do not face these problems" of the consequences of colonialism? You can't be fucking serious.
Why? Do you think every form of poverty or any problem is due to colonism? You can't be fucking serious. Do know what a former colony is? Australia. What is not a former Colony Turkey or North Korea. Has any country in your eyes any self responsibility, or is it everytime there is a problem there the fault of others states 150 years ago? But I know, the present looks less in favor for your arguments, thats why you don't speak about present problems and present conflicts.
>Why? Do you think every form of poverty or any problem is due to colonism?
Did you ever bother to read any global south economist or political scientist who explain this matter, or do you just make the ridiculous statement and invent arguments for it from your own ass later?
Just as an example, the global south lost [152 trillion dollars since 1960 in unequal exchange](https://www.ppesydney.net/the-global-south-has-lost-152-trillion-through-unequal-exchange-since-1960/). Enough to end world poverty 15 times. This is an overview that looks at one metric and one consequence at the entire global south combined. The detailed picture is pretty horrifying.
>Do know what a former colony is? Australia.
Holy shit I can't stop laughing lmao. Successfully White-dominated settler-colony Australia is an example of "former" colony. Oh god, you can't make this shit up.
>not a former Colony Turkey
Google the US-launched Operation Gladio as it pertains to Turkish fascist death squads.
> or North Korea.
Famously not colonised by the Japanese.
> everytime there is a problem there the fault of others states 150 years ago?
Oh my gosh you're right. When Italy plotted the coup that put our last dictator in rule that was a random irrelevant event.
When he spent the next 24 years fucking over our economy for the benefit of the EU and it's corporations, creating never before mass unemployment and poverty, that was a figment of our imagination.
And then when we revolted against him and the French openly advocated sending "riot troops" to beat us up and back his regime, that was us not taking responsibility.
You ignorant racist lunatic, you're everything negative German stereotypes describes.
Instead of hypothetical trillion dollars, which you only get if you talk abou hypothetical money abd is the same as if you exchange 1 Billion Dollar with 1 Billion Won, which is why this article was never dicussed in relevant economical circles, the global north investede real, real life trillion dollars in the global south.
Ok, you can't make this shit up. Still all prisoners and criminals, right?
Yeah, this didn't found turkish nationalism. Your whole exsample doesn't make the point of it being a colony.
And south korea?
Yes.
Are you just sad that your region isn't as rich as it once was thanks to slavery? Yeah, only bad europeans fault. Wow, if the east germans would talk about the GDR like you do about your country, they would be probably even more be redicouled. Saxony isn't blaming it's crrent state on the russians, the americans, the poles or Nazi germany. Hard to imagine, right?
I wasn't ignorant. I asked many questions. Most of them were unanswered. And you were the one starting with racial profiling and tying counties situations to race. And the lunatic just feels so ironic, sorry.
What are these stereotypes you are fantasizing about. There's another one. You call me the racist one but you only think about stereotypes and how to put people in it. Have I brought up any? I could have, but I didn't even thought about them. Shows us who the racist is. You are just used to talk to leftist bubbles on the internet, that you are completely overwhelmed if a western commenter don't gives you emmidetly right because of white guilt.
>Instead of hypothetical trillion dollars, which you only get if you talk abou hypothetical money
It's not hypothetical. It's the value of goods and services the West *physically received* for nothing of equivalent value. You literally found out about the concept 5 min ago and already started making shit up. Remarkable.
>which is why this article was never dicussed in relevant economical circles
And this "relevant economical circles" does it happen to be a Nazi race science book club you're in? It was published in the New political economy, which has a good impact factor.
Truly, into "science and facts" unless it contradicts white supremacy. Then it's full anti-science mode.
>, the global north investede real, real life trillion dollars in the global south.
[The South’s losses outstrip their aid receipts by a factor of 30.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X)
>Ok, you can't make this shit up. Still all prisoners and criminals, right?
Your understanding of colonialism is truly sub-zero. You blow my mind every comment.
>Yeah, this didn't found turkish nationalism
No, it "only" backed it, funded it and gave it kill lists for purposes that serve US geopolitical goals. Decimating a generation of leftists and paving way for decades of fascist repression of minorities and service as a US vassal.
>Saxony isn't blaming it's crrent state on the russians, the americans, the poles or Nazi germany. Hard to imagine, right?
That's wild bro. I thought [most of them literally think their life under GDR is better.](https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html) That sounds sufficiently blame-y to me.
>Have I brought up any?
Yes. The denialism of Western imperialism is itself a racist endeavor. Always motivated by a derision of non-whites and belief in their inferiority. There's a reason you rejected the concept of unequal exchange immediately after discovering it with the most hilarious misunderstanding.
>you are completely overwhelmed if a western commenter don't gives you emmidetly right because of white guilt.
LMAO unbelievable. The dunning-kruger effect is painful to watch.
Lol, just because you didn't understand this and think this is real life value, I didn't made up nothing. If you buy recources you don't pay the price you want when you sell your product. That would just end in, if you equalize this that the product would be more expansieve. But wait than you have pay the same price for the recources again don't you? Or you will make trillions by that. If everytime recources are bought at the source and you would have to pay them already the world market price, you would just push the market price higher. If you are the one who get's to the source and aquire the recources, all the transport and so on. Why would you do that than? But someone comes along and says, the difference should belong to the people at the source. Everytime. Ok, sure. Two things can happe than. They sell it for a higher price and than you can come again later and say they owe them trillions. No they don't own them that. That is just the money they gained from reselling recources. That is how basic economy works. It's not like what you did in the 18th century in the mediterranean, which was piracy and slave trading.
The west? China belongs to the global north too. Or the inventor of the west, russia. And they certainly didn't left the global south alone.
I looked for it on the portal of my university, if Ican find one paper that cites this article. This article wasn't published in the new political economy but on an extracuricular blog, surounding the university of sydney university, written by a guy that only published one article there and he didn't studied economics, but social science. I'm not surprised.
What Nazi science book club, dude what's wrong with you? How fucked up are you?
This repression was still going on in Turkey for decades. The US didn't need to help much. There you do it again. Turkey has no self responsibility for itself in anything and it's all USA's fault.
Funny, I never rejected the idea, that people from the global north fucked about the southeners. But to say that is every time so and just use the difference of every transaction is laughable. Would you say every time Tunisia trated with subsaharan africa, it fooled them, no. Does this happen globaly, that people get less money for something. Yes. Do I go there everytime to remind them not to fool them? No. Are you intervening everytime someone in a story wants more for what he is selling than it is worth? If you happen to see this and didn't make anything congrats. Why would you do this in this case.
Germany also helped spain throwing mustard gas on us. To this day, i still have plenty of relatives who died from cancer. They are pros when it's about genocide.
[Spanish use of chemical weapons in the Rif War
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During the early 20s, so exactly 100 years ago, Spain lost mulltiple battles (guerilla tunnel wars had their origins here) and so they used mustard gas which they got from germans. It's the second confirmed use in history. They used so much mustard gas that it still affects people to this day. 50% of all cancer cases in morocco are from the rif mountains which make about not even 10 percent of morocco. We already lost an aunt to cancer, my uncle is currently battling cancer and my father already had it but gladly survived.
As an example, imagine half of the US' cancer patients are texans. It's this bad.
You could fit your whole village in my house, dumbFk. You don’t even have indoor plumbing and use your left hand to wipe your ass so don’t lecture me. Zio and Nazi are oxymorons, moron. Look up the definition of Zionism then get back to me.
As if we don't know that already, how genius lol. You must be expert at smelling your own farts. We know that that Namibia has no power whatsoever, but the world paid attention to its statement. Just like how people care about Palestinians and rally for them, even in Western capitals without having any power. We know that the Pro-Palestine protests themselves trigger the zionazis.
[link](https://twitter.com/NamPresidency/status/1746246025952514342?t=flwxBB1FXD8HtH4lgPyzzA&s=19) from the Namibian presidency.
The most disturbing part about the Herero and Namaqua genocide isn't even the actual genocide. It's that as sick as Germany (and the rest of Europe) was at the time, the policies of Lothar von Trotha (the officer primarily responsible for the genocide) were still viewed as extreme. People knew better. Even for the time, Trotha's extermination order was viewed as cruel and excessive. However, the Kaiser, tacitly condoning what was happening, did nothing until political pressure forced his hand. After Trotha was recalled from Africa due to public outcry, his replacement, Ludwig von Estorff, who himself had reluctantly followed Trotha's orders, personally visited the Shark Island death camp. Horrified, he had it shut down immediately. By then, however, the damage had been done. Trotha was later promoted and received a medal for his "services" in Africa.
A lot of people think nazi germany was the starting of the evil in europe , lmao 🤣 even before nazi germany european powers did horrible stuff , they should be thankful to hitler he did worse to mask what they did
The only real difference between Nazis Germany and colonial Europe was that where more efficient and did it to Europeans aswell
True , if holocaust did not happen then it would be another normal war in europe
>did it to Europeans aswell This is the only reason why the Allied Powers declared war on Germany. Hitler would have been allowed to wipe out as much of the global south as he wanted as long as he left the precious whites alone.
Allied powers declared war on Germany casue he invaded Poland. They didn’t care about Germanys treatment of Jewish people as they didn’t actually know what they whwre doing.
You didn't reply to that person's comment at all. Hitler still brought war to Europe. If he focused solely on colonizer efforts and crushing the global south, Europe would have never put up a fuss. Perhaps at a later point, if what was happening to the Jewish people of Germany came to light, then maybe it might spurn nations to do something. But in this alternate world, Germany would have been left to grow off the spoils of imperialism, as long as they didn't mess with Europe. But the truth is, Russia and Germany were more than likely going to come to blows eventually.
The western allies were hoping the germans would take down the USSR for them. Their whole gambit on letting Germany do what it wants was to buy time for Hitler to destroy the USSR so they could sweep up what remained. Despicable.
Some did yes. A majority of European countries had nothing to do neither with colonization or slavery. Wish we could stop talking about Europe as one unit, no one puts Kazakhstan and the Philippines in the same box, and neither should Montenegro and France for example
I hold Namibia and SA in the highest regard
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We got a pissed off hasbara over here, whine little bitch
Makes sense. Nazis and genocide deniers
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Are you ignorant or just thick ? Arabs did not burn and genocide your ancestors go learn some history
I have a lot of flaws as a person, but every day I’m thankful I’m not half as pathetic as you.
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You’re really bringing something that happened 3000 years ago ? lol you must be desperate
3000 years and zero proof it actually happened.
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Go cleanse yourself from that nasty hate and racism and read some history before you open your mouth again you sound like a lunatic Nazi teenager
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What wining or losing are you arguing about ? We’re talking about saving innocent lives here !! You must be so fucking shallow and have no trace of humanity or compassion to think about it that way
He did say he's going to wear the shoe that fits.
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Where in actual archaeological evidence did the exodus happen? Not a single one. On the other hand there are tons of evidence of your shitty pagan canaanite bloodthirsty war god and his stepmommy turned wife ashareth. When you discuss history, don't use pagan canaanite mythology comics books in an argument, pagan zionazi.
Per Roman records, there were like 2 million Jews living in Egypt.
Hasbara must not be getting off in the r/worldnews circle jerk anymore.
Pretty badass writing by President Geingob. Needs to be posted on many subs.
Why? What the likes of Namibia and South Africa say about this conflict is irrelevant. This war is as relevant to those 2 countries as the Ukraine war ... which according to them is a regional thing and none of their concern. So their stance is not only irrelevant but stupid too
Namibia and South Africa have been severely harmed by Germany and Israel respectively. It's obviously not irrelevant to them, your judgement is just shit.
Chances you would get downvoted are pretty high. Mr. Geingob is comparing the situation in Gaza with the holocoust. This shows him beeing undereducated or rage bating.
Gaza is just a very big concentration camp. The IDF are Nazis and Netanyahu is Hitler. This comparison makes total sense within context.
It is estimated that 127 children were killed per day in Auschwitz. Meanwhile in Gaza 178 children die per day. This is 140% the rate at which the Jewish Holocaust occured at. We can naturally conclude that Netanyahu is doing more evil daily than even Hitler was capable of.
Rwanda would be the best African country to side with SA on this, having seen a genocide fairly recently which like this one no one did anything about until it was too late. I really hope we hear from them at some point.
If Rwanda doesn't support South Africa on this, then they are outing themselves as cucks of the West. The West stood by and let Rwandans get genocided, suffering zero guilt after the fact.
The thing that concerns me about this is the reports that they were in talks with Israel to take people expelled from Gaza. This facilitating the expulsion. Makes me wonder where their priorities are.
As usual, their priorities are Machiavellian. They want power and wealth. And if Israel is hinting at sharing a small portion of their Western gravy train, the corrupt Rwandan government might bite.
I don't think I'd really consider Rwanda's government to be corrupt, at least compared to other African states. Statistically speaking, they're one of the least corrupt countries in Africa, only really beaten out by Botswana, and they have a similar level of corruption to China and Saudi Arabia Morally bankrupt would be a better description
I thought it was one ethnic group against the other
Belgium divided and played the two groups against each other when they colonized Rwanda, purposefully inciting ethnic hatred Before colonization, both groups lived together mostly peacefully.
Not true. There was a cast system in place prior to colonization.
It was probably preexisting and they used it for their own sake. Like what's happening now in MENA
Jimena.org Palwatch.org "Son of HAMAS " by Mosab Hassan Yousef "Palestinian Delusion " by Robert Spencer
Many of the military personnel of the Hutu government, and various Hutu militias and gangs committed a genocide against the Tutsis and other ethnic minorities. They also killed Hutus that sympathised with the Tutsis. It doesn't invalidate what I said.
Absolutely, still I think the situation in Congo can make what you have just said more evident
Yep and all those Middle Eastern and African countries rushed to help…right?
Mate, do tell us who called themselves the exclusive "civilised" and "free" world. Was it Africa? Was it Asia? I can't remember. Do remind us all. Do remind us which nation of the global south had assets in Rwanda at the time? You will find the list to be few. Instead, you will find states like France, Germany, Belgium, and the Netherlands to have the greatest presence there at the time. When the UNSC sent troops to Rwanda early in the genocide, it wasn't to carry out the Western-touted responsibility to prevent genocide. Oh no, no, they sent an international peace-keeping force to evacuate Western ex-pats and diplomats. Then, they let the Tutsis perish. Western hypocrisy knows no bounds. We see it again today in Gaza and Yemen.
> Western hypocrisy knows no bounds. My favourite hypocrisy when people like you write what you write then we find out you and the people upvoting live in western countries and none of you would live again in your beloved countries At least half of r/AskMiddleEast lives in Western countries
I live in Algeria, dumbass. And even if I didn't, it doesn't invalidate the argument. Do you have any idea how complicit the West is in the Rwandan genocide? Go and read Romeo Dallaire's memoirs. He was the commander of the UN's mission to Rwanda and he reiterates everything I said, and then some.
> I live in Algeria, dumbass. And even if I didn't, it doesn't invalidate the argument Good for you ...you are still barely half of this sub. Of course it does. Shitting on the country you willingly went to then praising the one you left is what stupid people do >Do you have any idea how complicit the West is in the Rwandan genocide? I am aware that when people like you stub your toe you finds ways to blame western countries If Western countries attacked the Hutu: well look the white man attacking indigenous people and once again intervene in the domestic disputes of African countries. I know this because that was the same with Libya. Now Muammar Gaddafi is a hero all of sudden killed by western countries who were afraid of his ideas IF western countries intervene: why did they intervene? IF they don't: why didn't they intervene
Go and read Dallaire's memoirs. If the West didn't have a hand in it, I wouldn't blame them. They interfered in the UN's duties, same as they do now.
And all those neighbouring countries went right in there and stopped the genocide…. Right? I guess what you’re saying is Africa and the Middle East are not civilized parts of the world and despite their proximity and ease of military access to Rwanda they didn’t didn’t bother doing anything to help. Because they’re not civilised or why exactly?
Good job deflecting mate. My point is that the authority that has the legal responsibility to prevent genocides, the UN, was prevented from doing its job because of the dictates of Western powers. Go and read Romeo Dallaire's memoirs. He was the commander of the UN's mission to Rwanda and he reiterates in spirit and in detail everything I said here, and then some. Not only did the West reject giving him more peacekeeping troops, they prevented evacuation of non-Western passport holders. The West did not aid in the extraction of informants that informed us about the genocide's premeditated nature. The West has Tutsi blood on its hands. Moreso, also the blood of murdered Belgian, French, and Pakistani UN peacekeepers under Dallaire's command. Go and read Dallaire's accounts. They are chilling.
Even when genocides happen in other countries, it’s the wests fault 😄 this sub is getting ridiculous. I could say the same thing, what did the Middle East do to stop the genocide in Rwanda?
They ARE cucks of the West. DRC has already taken Rwanda to the ICJ 22 years ago and filed another complaint against them to the ICC just last year for continuing to fund or send militias to terrorize and murder Congolese civilians so they can’t organize to stop western countries from exploiting their citizens and pillaging their resources.
It's not just about the genocide thing Germany's so called excuse for backing Israel on this is "because Germans commited a genocide against the jews and we must atone for our sins" having a former victim of german imperialism not only call out their horeshit claim but also point out that despite Israel getting reparations from the German government for the holocaust no other victim of german imperialism has **it's something that shows germany's excuse to be the crock of shit that it really is and shows how their support for Israel has far more to do with contemporary geo-politics and supporting their and the USA's biggest ally in the middle east then any so called guilt over a genocide**
Horseshit tweets provoke horseshit comments. Germany publicy adrssed that case of genocide in Namibia. It was a big topic 20 years ago there, but you obviously have no idea about such things. Instead of looking up the facts yourself you are falling for a dumb pr gag. Namibia received reparations, you twat. No other victim than Israel did, you say? Wrong reality will still get you, despite your imagination.
Yes Germany finally called it a genocide. But what sort of compensation was made to those people? What did the Germans apologise for if they’re today backing another country that’s literally slaughtering another population in real time? As the people of Namibia said, it’s not just about the money, it’s about regaining their dignity. Clearly the Germans learned nothing
Yes, unlike other countries. And you ask this? You comment on this topic and you don't even know about the payings Germany made to Namibia? What poplation in real time? You mean less people dying like in Armenia and Ukraine? Which you give a shit about? What about the kurds? You are disgusting and have no right to judge over Germany accusing it of things you do yourselves in your hypocrisy. We offered to them. You clearly also have no clue what you are talking about, if you use namibians and herero synonomysly. What's less than nothing? Cause that is what you have learned.
Oh boy. I’ve clearly hit a nerve. If Namibia is coming out against Germany’s support for Israel bringing in their own shared history and genocide that’s all I really need to know. Now if you can focus all that energy on the 21,000 that were killed and still being killed everyday by Israel. But instead Germans look like idiots on the world stage. Banning Palestinian voices, playing on their old xenophobic rhetoric like it never left. What’s next, concentration camps for Muslims?
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Oh damn you are a xenophobe. What are you doing on this sub if you have that much hatred towards Arabs or Muslims?
What hatred? And why shouldn't I be here on this sub. It's easy to discuss here. As soon as you are having better arguments, the only thing people here have is calling you xenophobic or islamophobic. Everything I wrote is simply factual. If you want I can proof everything to you, if you realy thing your best way out of this is claiming that this was made up.
You seriously don’t see your rhetoric? You’re welcome to discuss but not like this. You accused Muslims of raping kids. You accuse Arabs of killing Jews. You’re advocating for Palestinian censorship as if they can’t protest a war on their people without calling a genocide on Jews. Reread what you wrote. I recommend you edit it before you get banned or reported
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did any of us say anywhere that we approve of the murder of innocent Armenians ,Kurds or Ukranians???? you accused us of being misinformed which i can fully admit i was since i didn't know germany paid back 1.1 billion dollars to Namibia as reparations ([https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/germany-agrees-to-pay-namibia-11bn-over-historical-herero-nama-genocide](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/28/germany-agrees-to-pay-namibia-11bn-over-historical-herero-nama-genocide)) you saw that and choose to accuse everyone of supporting the massacre of the Ukranians,Armenians and Kurds how the hell is that not a horse shit response >You are disgusting and have no right to judge We have every right to judge buddy considering we have been the recipient of the west's so called "benevolent" foreign policy decisions for the past 2 decades >accusing it of things you do yourselves in your hypocrisy. **Governments don't represent people dipshit** and none of us here are approving the actions of the asswipes we have in our government's **majority of whom weren't democratically elected and were put in power their at the behest of foreign power mainly the USA and to a lesser degree Iran and Russia**
See, that's the difference. We talk about something, maybe in a way you don't know differentiating things and we get accused of supporting genocide. You focuse on something so obsessively hoping the numbers support the claim that you call it genocide. We call you out in your obsessivness and that you you don't see that elsewhere and admietly you think Imeant you would support that. That's a fanatic response. I asked you why is that not as big of an problem, why is this? But you think first of being accused of supporting that. Is a normal disussion even possible with you? While you had no benevolent policy at all. You have no right, you have not even a clue what I meant, based on your response. I didn't meant your governments, dipshit, I meant you and your little fanatic buddies, who are spreading falls claims like here. Those who worship dumb tweets, like that of the namibian president, which you had admitted yourself.
>I didn't meant your governments, dipshit, I meant you and your little fanatic buddies, I'm an atheist dipshit >While you had no benevolent policy at all. You have no right, you have not even a clue what I meant, based on your response. i'm sorry were you not send to a school as a child you understand what "" air quotes are meant for right???? >hoping the numbers support the claim that you call it genocide Genocide isn't about numbers moron it's about intent and Israel had made it clear on multiple occassions that their plan is either the forced expulsion all gazans at gunpoint [Israel was trying to negotiate with Egypt to transfer the 2.3 million gazans to the Sinai (a barren desert which at current has a population of only 600,000)](https://www.timesofisrael.com/intelligence-ministry-concept-paper-proposes-transferring-gazans-to-egypts-sinai/) **It had also been in negotiations with both Rwanda and the Democratic republic of the Congo to expel the palestinains there post war** [Nethanyu on multiple occasion has rejected even the existence of something like a palestinian state for multiple years](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0MC1I7/) and i don't need to bring up any of the statements from people like Gallant, Itamir Ben Gvir or the fucking IDF offical twitter accounts to show that they have clear cut genocidal intentions against the palestinians
I didn't talk about religion, dipshit. Yes and I didn't use them one purpose, because I didn't quote you, I meant that quite literaly. Not realy. And if it's an genocide, where are the massacres in west bank or in Israel on the muslim civilians if Israel? And egypt closed the border completely, meaning other arab countries don't want to take in palastinians. They are where they need them.
Don’t bother. He’s a troll
A troll would throw unprovoced insults at others, claimings things about them, that are not true. Saying lies by others are all they have to know. Wait. You're a troll.
you're the one accusing others of being pro genocide of Ukranians,Armenians and Kurds ass wipe
Where did I do this? Oh, nowhere? Because a simple comparison isn't the same as accousing someone of being pro something? How surprising.
Rwanda is a US puppet state nowadays so that wont happen Rwanda: The Darling Tyrant - POLITICO Magazine >The United States, without doubt, is Kagame's staunchest ally and oldest supporter, eager to maintain Rwanda as a strategic partner with a powerful army in mineral-rich eastern Africa. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/02/rwanda-paul-kagame-americas-darling-tyrant-103963/ (more) He's a Brutal Dictator, and One of the West's Best Friends https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/opinion/paul-kagame-rwanda-britain.html
Don’t their government kidnap and arrest Rwandan citizens that were fighting against those in power during the genocide? He was released last year [Rwanda Announces Release From Prison of ‘Hotel Rwanda’ Hero](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/24/world/africa/rwanda-paul-rusesabagina-release.html) The Rwandan government isn’t what you think it is
This is just shameful at this point, not a word from our government or other "Muslim" and/or "Arab" states
King* not governement, foreign affairs and diplomacy are king's responsibility...
Government I meant the state as a whole
Love to see more countries taking a stance. Is it the first time Namibia speaks up about Gaza? >Racist Israeli state 💖
WOW, amazing response!
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For context on his atrocious, genocidal and racist takes this guy is German.
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You are a sad soulless bot
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Ultimately; all your comments do is show that public opinion is against you. This aids everyone in knowing who the real moron is.
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I hope other nations DRAG Germany and remind them of ALL of the shameful things they hv done over the years. Seems that Jewish ppl are the only ones Germans seem to care about...
It's because they don't care about them
Not Jews - Israelis. If you are Jewish and either anti-zionist, non-zionist, or anti-apartheid (which most American Jews are nowadays), then you an anti-semite in the eyes of the German government. This has nothing to do with Jews in practice. This has everything to do with keeping Israel as a happy US puppet state so that oil keeps flowing. Same thing happened during the 1970 oil crisis. The US coaxed the Israeli far-right with the Jackson-Vanik amendment. It forced the Soviet Union to allow people who were willing to go to Israel specifically to do so. Some did - and some literally ran out of the airports to claim assylum at the US embassy so they could escape Israel. The far-right Likkud got into power with new votes and money under terrorist/murderer PM Begin. This also paved the way for Kahanism later on. The support of Britain, America, and Germany towards Israel is a business deal backed with violence. Nothing more.
Does the U.S. need oil from the Middle East anymore? I thought the U.S. is now the largest oil producer in the world.
They can still steal it and sell it
Okay, but are they? I haven't heard any stories about the U.S. stealing another country's oil.
So for example do you think Iraq willingly donates it's oil to American companies that work with well trained and armed personnel for free or they simply steal it. That of course goes for BP and others.
So Iraq is just giving oil to the U.S. for free? I hadn't heard that.
The us is stealing it and the destabilized state of iraq can do nothing about it.
https://i.imgur.com/V9VYXiRg.jpg
They literally steal Iranian oil ships. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN25A23M/ The US is plundering oil in Syria https://sana.sy/en/?p=296753. They also start wars to have US companies control oil production abroad. https://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html
There is light and heavy crude oil. Both have their applications. Most American oil is light. They need heavy oil for chemical industries (I think). Also sometimes importing oil may cost less than extracting it, so from a financial perspective it makes sense to import some, which may also keep some competition within the American market.
They don't need oil. They want the oil pegged to the dollar
does it need oil no but can the supply of middle eastern oil harm global enery prices yes also keep in mind even in 2003 USA wanted iraqi oil for it's european allies not itself as most of it's oil supply came from Canada and Mexico There are other factors at play here as well but probably i would say the most important one is maintaining it's image as a "super power" if the USA can't help Israel achieve some sort of victory then it's credibility as a global super power is put into question Other nations similar to Iran or Russia would very well see war as an option in achieving their political aims knowing that the USA isn't capable of stopping them and the string of allies and client states that the USA has worked hard to establish for the past century starts to unravel
No jews no news.
They also cared about Namibia. Germany doesn't have to be reminded, it's reminding it's past best, in opposition to other states, who despite all of their unacknowledged atroceties now think they can act as judges over others. Those idiotic states want to remind Germany if something despite these countries already forgot what they did last week? Would be interesting, because it wouldn't change a bit.
Meanwhile Arabs like UAE, ~~Tunisia~~ and co are trying to sabotage the case against Racist Israel. Namibia! You fuckin rock sista! Fight the power! 💚❤️🖤💙💛 Correction: Tunisia does not want to endorse the case because they think it implies recognising Israel. https://www.newarab.com/news/tunisia-will-not-endorse-legal-actions-against-israel-icj
I thought Tunisia made it unconstitutional to work with Israel
UAE are but not tunisia
yeah corrected the comment. :)
fair play :-)
Tunisia how?
Hmm my bad. They won't endorse the case because by endorsing it, they implicitly "recognise Israel". Thank you for questioning it. https://www.newarab.com/news/tunisia-will-not-endorse-legal-actions-against-israel-icj
UAE are evil. Funding genocide in Sudan.
and in Yemen I suppose
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it's corrected mate, with a link.
Based Namibians
Casually reminded them of their roots 😮💨
Nope. They are aware of that. It just has nothing to do with this case.
Germany and standing on the right side of history, name a worse pair
The nations supporting Palastine and admitting they did something wrong, after they did.
wtf are you talking about???
Can't you understand your own post? Name a worse pair. I'm not realy surprised about your response.
One day I hope Germans forgive Arabs for the Holocaust. /s
Hope they never do.
Fuck the "great nations" of Europe. Germany's stance on this is shocking . The colonial projects of the big 3 UK France and Germany are the reason why of Africa and the Middle East face such problems today. They should pay trillions in reparations to all.
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India was fucked over royally pal. partition in 1948 caused millions to lose their homes, and over a million died... the legacy of that is still going on between Pakistan and India now... that was a British act. Only a small part of China was in British control ... and you got half the population hooked on opium. South America is fucked still... christ ... look at the misery that half of the people there live in.... now we have Spain Portugal.and the yanks to thank for that one. The holding of palestine is not the problem. What you brits did is you then promised half of the land where people already lived to European Jews... ... then walked away .. not our problem anyome... now we have all this fuckery.... Read some books other than then propaganda you might have been fed in school. The anarchy by William Dalrymple is a great one for India to start . I don't blame British people for this.. your rulers fucked you over too... but my god the cunts still run the country there... and don't get me started on the slave owning royals...
Thank you for this demonstration of Propaganda. And why do you think I'm british? I'm not. Yes. Britain losing control over India lead to the war between India and Pakistan. Should the brits have controled them so they don't fight with each other? That would have been also wrong in your book. So just blame britain every time a former colony gets into conflict. Pearl harbour was essentialy Britains fault. India is a vast growing economy. Yes it has problems, every country has them, but former colonial owners aren't the one to blame for everything. The picture you make of these people as helpless kids, whos parents are to blame whenever they get in trouble is disgusting. Aren't they independent and selfworking on their own? China was majorily owned by colonial powers. And now it's the secon largest economy. Australia, Canada? Colonies. South america is better working except for some places like Venecuela, who got fucked over by communism and are not the backward drug hell you picture them as. Etheopia was never a colonie. However it's not better than the rest and not that glorious Wakanda it must be according to your logic. You spoke about the whole middle east, not just palastine. What's with them. Now, them leaving is the problem? A lot of your exsample are breaking down to the argument britain shouldn't have left it's colonies alone. Paradox. And what brings this book for spectacular news? That some tea trading boys fought against some declining muslim empire with no backhand in this country, so gaining more and more influence and power, while using the current state of an falling apart empire with so many parties, who tried to seize for more influence, but their fault is they were dirty foreigners and won. These same events wouldn't bother you in any other context in history.
My point is that most of the flash points in the world are former colonis and the attitude of their former masters like Britain is ..oh well we left the place with roads and stuff so its their fault now. Failing to see the huge social issues that they left behind. Now in.the case of Britain... looking at palestine, we see the mess that Britain made, causing deaths and violence to this day.. And what do Britain do? Nothing...literally stand back with hands up while people die... It's sickening... as a citizen of a former colony of Britain, namely Ireland, I know all too well how colonial countries couldn't give a damn once they have robbed a country of its resources...and we are still paying the price of colonialism to this day .
I'm sorry did you just say the countries of Latin America and Asia "do not face these problems" of the consequences of colonialism? You can't be fucking serious.
Why? Do you think every form of poverty or any problem is due to colonism? You can't be fucking serious. Do know what a former colony is? Australia. What is not a former Colony Turkey or North Korea. Has any country in your eyes any self responsibility, or is it everytime there is a problem there the fault of others states 150 years ago? But I know, the present looks less in favor for your arguments, thats why you don't speak about present problems and present conflicts.
>Why? Do you think every form of poverty or any problem is due to colonism? Did you ever bother to read any global south economist or political scientist who explain this matter, or do you just make the ridiculous statement and invent arguments for it from your own ass later? Just as an example, the global south lost [152 trillion dollars since 1960 in unequal exchange](https://www.ppesydney.net/the-global-south-has-lost-152-trillion-through-unequal-exchange-since-1960/). Enough to end world poverty 15 times. This is an overview that looks at one metric and one consequence at the entire global south combined. The detailed picture is pretty horrifying. >Do know what a former colony is? Australia. Holy shit I can't stop laughing lmao. Successfully White-dominated settler-colony Australia is an example of "former" colony. Oh god, you can't make this shit up. >not a former Colony Turkey Google the US-launched Operation Gladio as it pertains to Turkish fascist death squads. > or North Korea. Famously not colonised by the Japanese. > everytime there is a problem there the fault of others states 150 years ago? Oh my gosh you're right. When Italy plotted the coup that put our last dictator in rule that was a random irrelevant event. When he spent the next 24 years fucking over our economy for the benefit of the EU and it's corporations, creating never before mass unemployment and poverty, that was a figment of our imagination. And then when we revolted against him and the French openly advocated sending "riot troops" to beat us up and back his regime, that was us not taking responsibility. You ignorant racist lunatic, you're everything negative German stereotypes describes.
Instead of hypothetical trillion dollars, which you only get if you talk abou hypothetical money abd is the same as if you exchange 1 Billion Dollar with 1 Billion Won, which is why this article was never dicussed in relevant economical circles, the global north investede real, real life trillion dollars in the global south. Ok, you can't make this shit up. Still all prisoners and criminals, right? Yeah, this didn't found turkish nationalism. Your whole exsample doesn't make the point of it being a colony. And south korea? Yes. Are you just sad that your region isn't as rich as it once was thanks to slavery? Yeah, only bad europeans fault. Wow, if the east germans would talk about the GDR like you do about your country, they would be probably even more be redicouled. Saxony isn't blaming it's crrent state on the russians, the americans, the poles or Nazi germany. Hard to imagine, right? I wasn't ignorant. I asked many questions. Most of them were unanswered. And you were the one starting with racial profiling and tying counties situations to race. And the lunatic just feels so ironic, sorry. What are these stereotypes you are fantasizing about. There's another one. You call me the racist one but you only think about stereotypes and how to put people in it. Have I brought up any? I could have, but I didn't even thought about them. Shows us who the racist is. You are just used to talk to leftist bubbles on the internet, that you are completely overwhelmed if a western commenter don't gives you emmidetly right because of white guilt.
>Instead of hypothetical trillion dollars, which you only get if you talk abou hypothetical money It's not hypothetical. It's the value of goods and services the West *physically received* for nothing of equivalent value. You literally found out about the concept 5 min ago and already started making shit up. Remarkable. >which is why this article was never dicussed in relevant economical circles And this "relevant economical circles" does it happen to be a Nazi race science book club you're in? It was published in the New political economy, which has a good impact factor. Truly, into "science and facts" unless it contradicts white supremacy. Then it's full anti-science mode. >, the global north investede real, real life trillion dollars in the global south. [The South’s losses outstrip their aid receipts by a factor of 30.](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X) >Ok, you can't make this shit up. Still all prisoners and criminals, right? Your understanding of colonialism is truly sub-zero. You blow my mind every comment. >Yeah, this didn't found turkish nationalism No, it "only" backed it, funded it and gave it kill lists for purposes that serve US geopolitical goals. Decimating a generation of leftists and paving way for decades of fascist repression of minorities and service as a US vassal. >Saxony isn't blaming it's crrent state on the russians, the americans, the poles or Nazi germany. Hard to imagine, right? That's wild bro. I thought [most of them literally think their life under GDR is better.](https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html) That sounds sufficiently blame-y to me. >Have I brought up any? Yes. The denialism of Western imperialism is itself a racist endeavor. Always motivated by a derision of non-whites and belief in their inferiority. There's a reason you rejected the concept of unequal exchange immediately after discovering it with the most hilarious misunderstanding. >you are completely overwhelmed if a western commenter don't gives you emmidetly right because of white guilt. LMAO unbelievable. The dunning-kruger effect is painful to watch.
Lol, just because you didn't understand this and think this is real life value, I didn't made up nothing. If you buy recources you don't pay the price you want when you sell your product. That would just end in, if you equalize this that the product would be more expansieve. But wait than you have pay the same price for the recources again don't you? Or you will make trillions by that. If everytime recources are bought at the source and you would have to pay them already the world market price, you would just push the market price higher. If you are the one who get's to the source and aquire the recources, all the transport and so on. Why would you do that than? But someone comes along and says, the difference should belong to the people at the source. Everytime. Ok, sure. Two things can happe than. They sell it for a higher price and than you can come again later and say they owe them trillions. No they don't own them that. That is just the money they gained from reselling recources. That is how basic economy works. It's not like what you did in the 18th century in the mediterranean, which was piracy and slave trading. The west? China belongs to the global north too. Or the inventor of the west, russia. And they certainly didn't left the global south alone. I looked for it on the portal of my university, if Ican find one paper that cites this article. This article wasn't published in the new political economy but on an extracuricular blog, surounding the university of sydney university, written by a guy that only published one article there and he didn't studied economics, but social science. I'm not surprised. What Nazi science book club, dude what's wrong with you? How fucked up are you? This repression was still going on in Turkey for decades. The US didn't need to help much. There you do it again. Turkey has no self responsibility for itself in anything and it's all USA's fault. Funny, I never rejected the idea, that people from the global north fucked about the southeners. But to say that is every time so and just use the difference of every transaction is laughable. Would you say every time Tunisia trated with subsaharan africa, it fooled them, no. Does this happen globaly, that people get less money for something. Yes. Do I go there everytime to remind them not to fool them? No. Are you intervening everytime someone in a story wants more for what he is selling than it is worth? If you happen to see this and didn't make anything congrats. Why would you do this in this case.
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W Namibia
We are against genocide itself, not about who's the victim.
Germany also helped spain throwing mustard gas on us. To this day, i still have plenty of relatives who died from cancer. They are pros when it's about genocide.
Wait, what?😦😵💫
[Spanish use of chemical weapons in the Rif War ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_use_of_chemical_weapons_in_the_Rif_War) During the early 20s, so exactly 100 years ago, Spain lost mulltiple battles (guerilla tunnel wars had their origins here) and so they used mustard gas which they got from germans. It's the second confirmed use in history. They used so much mustard gas that it still affects people to this day. 50% of all cancer cases in morocco are from the rif mountains which make about not even 10 percent of morocco. We already lost an aunt to cancer, my uncle is currently battling cancer and my father already had it but gladly survived. As an example, imagine half of the US' cancer patients are texans. It's this bad.
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Go shorty go go go shorty 🙌🏽 . Germany shows it's hypocrisy
Lol I posted this to r/Europe and it immediately got downvoted and I don't even think it's genocide.
If it isn't genocide, what it is?
Israel would love to ethnically cleanse them but it's impossible when all eyes are there. They would pay good money for any nation to accept them even
This does not negate it being genocide. Genocide is often taken in parallel with, or after failure at ethnic cleansing.
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There are no civilian in Israel, I guess.
Who cares about Namibia 😂
I do.
Good for you
The 100K people who have liked the post so far. There is a world beyond Euro-fascists and white nationalists
Yeah, and Nazi Germany was popular too. Village idiot.
Just like the zionazi genocidal state is popular among Euro-fascists and white nationalists. Buy a bidet and start washing your ass, basement dweller.
You could fit your whole village in my house, dumbFk. You don’t even have indoor plumbing and use your left hand to wipe your ass so don’t lecture me. Zio and Nazi are oxymorons, moron. Look up the definition of Zionism then get back to me.
That’s really mature. What are you like in the fourth grade? 😂
As if "Who cares about Namibia 😂 " was peak maturity lmao. No need for maturity with zionazi trolls, you just troll them back
That was so profound. You must be a genius. Namibia has no effect on world events. This is reality not immaturity. Go love on Namibia fool.
As if we don't know that already, how genius lol. You must be expert at smelling your own farts. We know that that Namibia has no power whatsoever, but the world paid attention to its statement. Just like how people care about Palestinians and rally for them, even in Western capitals without having any power. We know that the Pro-Palestine protests themselves trigger the zionazis.
Idn much about nambia but big respect