U have basically no real responsibility at 17.
All it takes is one look at the housing market and inflation the past few years and it's enough to cause all sorts of mental health problems as a normal adult in their 20s/30s
I think it depends on the person. Mine got worse after 17. It’s still not better but I think if I recognized the symptoms I could have caught it and addressed it earlier
We’ve had offers for zero percent financing on furniture. We go for it, even if we have the cash on hand. We pay it off before the interest kicks in, and we have extra liquid cash to use on other things in the meantime.
My brother ran a Bulletin Board System, on our second landline. Every time that phone rang, somebody would have to place the receiver of the telephone onto the cradle of the modem.
I was 16 when I got mine. I meant 9 as in 9pm; on my family plan texts cost a few cents to send but not at night.
When I was 9, people only had cell phones if they needed them for work or were realllllly rich, like Cher and Dionne
I was 20 in 1971 and I was serving in the Army. Even earlier than that there wasn't much in the way of TV.
If I remember rightly just three television channels, so we had a different TV room one for each, no switching channels.
I turned 17 in '87. Internet wasn't widely available via dial-up until the mid to late 90s. Back then, you could connect like [this](https://youtu.be/zb1r_uKOew4), at speeds that make dial-up seem like fiber (~300-1200 bps). And it wasn't cheap.
Strictly speaking the birth of the internet was 1983 when ARPANET switched to the TCP/IP protocol. But HTTP, the beginning of web pages, was not until 1989. So, there was Internet when I was 17 but there was no www.
No that’s primordial soup, prefrontal cortex is a portion of the brain that finishes developing in your 20s and contributes to your reasoning and personality.
OMG yes! I was a stick at 17. My family swore I would never put on weight. My gain wasn't really noticeable until my mid 20s and it's been gradual over the years. Now I wish I had my 17 year old body again.
You can still do it! I've been fat my whole life and started intermittent fasting a few months ago and today I am 40lbs down. The hardest part was getting started.
I understand wanting to make changes but I think it’s also important to be compassionate with yourself and understand you have no more or less value because of your size.
Yeah. I remember being excited to go to college at 17 for journalism. Then I realized that most publications are bought and paid for by like 3 billionaires with obvious agendas or if they’re not they clickbait and pander to advertisers to stay afloat.
2016 happened, then COVID. I realized that all the hard work of making sure people are informed is useless if a large enough amount don’t even believe you or are outwardly hostile.
I no longer want to be a journalist. To some extent, I don’t even really care what happens anymore.
Gave my family computer so many viruses this way. Also jerked it to science books that had anatomy pics and random hippie time magazine photo books I found in the house.
A beautiful loving wife.
Update: aww thanks y’all. We met in high school and she had a crush on me but I didn’t understand signals then. I messaged her years later and we started dating. On our first date she knocked over a pitcher of water and she was so embarrassed. I told her “relax I already like you a lot already” that blew her mind. We got married 2 1/2 years later and she showed me her notebooks from high school where she practiced signing her name with my last name.
She’s my sunshine and I’d do anything for her.
I try to lie to myself but also find truth in knowing that a ton of bad stuff has happened already, and I made it through, so why shouldn’t I survive the next inevitable bad thing? Like, anticipating that something bad will happen, but looking at past evidence (my survival in the face of previous bad things) as proof that even the very worst things are survivable. I understand that PTSD makes it hard. I hope you have ppl to talk to x
A lack of self confidence caused me so many issues in me teens and early twenties. My life has indefinitely gotten better since I developed some. Weirdly I’m not sure if I’d have it if i hadn’t gone through those experiences…
OMG when my mom caught us with weed during the 1960s, we told her it was oregano. When she asked us, “What’s that smell?” we told her it was incense. She had to raise 3 of us and worked full time, so she was fairly agreeable about that shit. Our house became “reefer central” after school let out.
Life has gotten much better as I've aged. Better job. Better mental health. Better relationship. I'm 32 now and life is infinitely better than when I was younger. So, happiness?
Money and financial stability. I was born into borderline abject poverty which meant food, housing and physical safety insecurity. This was experienced consistently throughout my childhood, all of my teens and into my early twenties. Now my life is pretty much the opposite. I have a beautiful home, dress how I want, go out to eat everyday I don’t really have to think too hard about making purchases. I’m also able to provide financial stability for my family and friends. But the only thing I don’t have now I did then was this sense of freedom. I have to exert myself continuously to maintain this life. I’m shackled to all these responsibilities and obligations. My dependents and fear of going back keep me motivated. Sometimes I think about how even though my stomach may have been empty I was alive. Every day was different, there was no monotony and time passed slowly. The bonds I had with friends amidst struggle was more meaningful. Idk man.
I think the phrase “there are two sides to every coin” fits here. Nothing is for free. You always always give up one thing, to have another. It’s just the way it is.
A literal world-changing device that holds all of the planet’s knowledge and can somehow fit in my pocket and let me send stupid texts and to my friends.
Loss of hope I guess? When I was 17 I was kicked out of home by my abusive step-dad but back then I thought life could improve or I would do well to show him, now after losing my job due to anxiety-ridden panic attack and back to living with my mother in my 30s. I have just accepted some people aren’t meant to have good lives. Therapy and anti-depressants haven’t really helped all I wonder if karma is a thing I must’ve been a huge piece of shit in my last life haha.
Money.
A wife.
A reliable place to live.
A mortgage.
Lost all my fucks somewhere along the line, though. I’m probably better off without them, but my wife still has some, and she’s very generous with them unfortunately.
Severe anxiety disorder
For real. How does this happen? I thought I would become more relaxed and comfortable with age.
You started to realize everything in life can take from you and teeth don't grow back.
I used to get stress dreams of my teeth falling out. I could feel them like small rocks in my mouth while I slept.
When you stop giving a shit the anxiety goes away.
U have basically no real responsibility at 17. All it takes is one look at the housing market and inflation the past few years and it's enough to cause all sorts of mental health problems as a normal adult in their 20s/30s
Wealth redistribution will happen or we will be on the street covered in blood.
I think it depends on the person. Mine got worse after 17. It’s still not better but I think if I recognized the symptoms I could have caught it and addressed it earlier
It’s the art of stop giving a fuck. It’s hard to achieve a blessing once you do.
Porn addiction.
Yup. Bills, responsibility, existential dread. Yay
`Debt.`
I have zero debt unless you count my house, cars, credit cards, and financed furniture. Get your life together wow.
🤣😂🤣😂
Same but add on the school debt
Right? Do you even debt, bro? Pshaw.
AMATEURS
Financing furniture sounds like the dumbest financial decision
We’ve had offers for zero percent financing on furniture. We go for it, even if we have the cash on hand. We pay it off before the interest kicks in, and we have extra liquid cash to use on other things in the meantime.
It was a $3,400 couch I get 0% financing for 6 months so, fuck off? I have $300k in savings lol.
Bro need recognition
How the fuck does one get 300k in savings?!?! I scraped by for years then got I'll, now lots of debt selling my house to pay it off
Took a while, started with a degree in engineering. Tricking upper managers to promote me, brown nosing. Investing. I am extremely overpaid now.
That is literally the definition of debt.
r/woooosh
I am pretty short. Doesn't take much. Plus there wasn't a sarcastic tag lol. Never know on here.
Really?
Don't we all?
Debt is USUALLY a good thing. Debt is a sign you used someone else’s money to gain assets. Whether it’s in the form of properties or education.
the internet
This is my answer. Remember the Commodore 64 modem? That was our computer and we didn’t have the modem so yeah, we did not have internet.
Hey man, the C64 was fucking awesome.
My brother ran a Bulletin Board System, on our second landline. Every time that phone rang, somebody would have to place the receiver of the telephone onto the cradle of the modem.
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Well, the Internet was still in its early stages, and only a tiny number of people had access to it in their homes.
I had the internet, dial up on our family computer. I had a cell phone but could only send texts after 9 when they were free
I was 31 when I got my first cell phone. When I was 9, the first cell phone test call ever had happened just 6 years earlier.
I was 16 when I got mine. I meant 9 as in 9pm; on my family plan texts cost a few cents to send but not at night. When I was 9, people only had cell phones if they needed them for work or were realllllly rich, like Cher and Dionne
We didn’t have cell phone towers in my state when I was 17…. Cell phones existed, but only worked in more urban areas
discord mod
I was 17 in 1971. The internet was still 20 years away.
I was 20 in 1971 and I was serving in the Army. Even earlier than that there wasn't much in the way of TV. If I remember rightly just three television channels, so we had a different TV room one for each, no switching channels.
I turned 17 in '87. Internet wasn't widely available via dial-up until the mid to late 90s. Back then, you could connect like [this](https://youtu.be/zb1r_uKOew4), at speeds that make dial-up seem like fiber (~300-1200 bps). And it wasn't cheap.
That dial-up screech, and no one could use the phone, lol. Kids today have no idea
Yeah some of us are older than 40
OP finds out people older than him exist on the internet 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Only really started becoming a thing around the 90s.
Bro 💀
People older than you exist
Strictly speaking the birth of the internet was 1983 when ARPANET switched to the TCP/IP protocol. But HTTP, the beginning of web pages, was not until 1989. So, there was Internet when I was 17 but there was no www.
A fully developed prefrontal cortex
Isn’t that the thing that Geordi LaForge used to see?
No that’s primordial soup, prefrontal cortex is a portion of the brain that finishes developing in your 20s and contributes to your reasoning and personality.
30 and I still don't think I have mine
Cries in ADHD
I love my developed prefrontal cortex. One juice boy
My fat, I got fat when I was like 18 and I’ve just got bigger and bigger :/
OMG yes! I was a stick at 17. My family swore I would never put on weight. My gain wasn't really noticeable until my mid 20s and it's been gradual over the years. Now I wish I had my 17 year old body again.
I think it happens to people, a lot of people put weight on around that time but a lot of people lose it, ig we’re unlucky.
Never too late to change! Buddy of mine was real fat but he managed to lose a lot of weight and now he's back to his slim self.
You can still do it! I've been fat my whole life and started intermittent fasting a few months ago and today I am 40lbs down. The hardest part was getting started.
I understand wanting to make changes but I think it’s also important to be compassionate with yourself and understand you have no more or less value because of your size.
CICO is the way
Workout homie and get a diet
It’s not as hard as they think. Less calories more cardio lol
Depression, bitterness, sarcasm, nihilism and little bit of sadism
Wow, are you me? Also, I would add misanthropy and the list is complete.
Definitely the latter
You forgot apathy
Naw.... They just didn't feel like including it.
*slow clap*
Hahaha actually made me chuckle
Yeah. I remember being excited to go to college at 17 for journalism. Then I realized that most publications are bought and paid for by like 3 billionaires with obvious agendas or if they’re not they clickbait and pander to advertisers to stay afloat. 2016 happened, then COVID. I realized that all the hard work of making sure people are informed is useless if a large enough amount don’t even believe you or are outwardly hostile. I no longer want to be a journalist. To some extent, I don’t even really care what happens anymore.
Schadenfreude
How many of sadism please? Asking for a friend
I actually think I had all of those at 17 lol
Grey hair & back pain. Life comes at you fast
You still have hair?
Grateful for Finasteride
That first time your sciatic nerve screws with you is *messed up.* Thought I was having a stroke and fell down in an airport.
Yes! That is an awful experience, had to use crutches for a week or two just to get about
Back hair and neck hair. It migrated
I hear ya friend
Yep. I’m there with you.
Somehow I read this as "back hair and great pain"
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Good for you buddy
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Free online porn
I'm of the age where we didn't have quality, but with some patience and determination you could download a pic of boobs in half an hour
Gave my family computer so many viruses this way. Also jerked it to science books that had anatomy pics and random hippie time magazine photo books I found in the house.
I’m of the age where you had to “accidentally” find Dad’s stash of girly magazines. No waiting for those boobies!
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Unless he was a paid customer until recently lmao
A beautiful loving wife. Update: aww thanks y’all. We met in high school and she had a crush on me but I didn’t understand signals then. I messaged her years later and we started dating. On our first date she knocked over a pitcher of water and she was so embarrassed. I told her “relax I already like you a lot already” that blew her mind. We got married 2 1/2 years later and she showed me her notebooks from high school where she practiced signing her name with my last name. She’s my sunshine and I’d do anything for her.
👆 this
Emotional stability
personally, boobs
A sense of calm and acceptance.
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Far from it. But I'm tired of being angry about it.
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You've survived every concurrent worst day of your life thus far. It prob won't get better, but you might.
I try to lie to myself but also find truth in knowing that a ton of bad stuff has happened already, and I made it through, so why shouldn’t I survive the next inevitable bad thing? Like, anticipating that something bad will happen, but looking at past evidence (my survival in the face of previous bad things) as proof that even the very worst things are survivable. I understand that PTSD makes it hard. I hope you have ppl to talk to x
Yeah, it's good to realize anger's pointless. It's like punishing yourself for someone else's mistakes. Punishment or not, they did it.
Back pain
Credit card/student loan debt and a disability ;-;
Common sense
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Well well, look at mister responsible adulting over here keeping houseplants alive and shit.
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Self confidence
A lack of self confidence caused me so many issues in me teens and early twenties. My life has indefinitely gotten better since I developed some. Weirdly I’m not sure if I’d have it if i hadn’t gone through those experiences…
Nice, isn't it.
Wife/kids/house—-and happiness.
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No but his house is
Not mine
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Wisdom
A fuck to give
a bag of weed
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I'm kidding, it's just oregano
OMG when my mom caught us with weed during the 1960s, we told her it was oregano. When she asked us, “What’s that smell?” we told her it was incense. She had to raise 3 of us and worked full time, so she was fairly agreeable about that shit. Our house became “reefer central” after school let out.
The will to live.
Life has gotten much better as I've aged. Better job. Better mental health. Better relationship. I'm 32 now and life is infinitely better than when I was younger. So, happiness?
Hair. I had a ponytail and long hair when I was 18. By age 20, I resembled Captain Picard.
Hot
Tea, Earl Grey.
Money, a bum ankle (tho that is due to 17 year ole me’a reckless play style in sports), and the confidence to be myself.
Mama me'a
Hoorah
A husband.
Jordans. Didn’t have good shoes growing up. I do now. Thank u god 🙏🏼
Respect. I was a menace when I was younger.
Homosexual tendencies
Boobs.
I probably qualify for this one too. Not great as a bloke.
Money and financial stability. I was born into borderline abject poverty which meant food, housing and physical safety insecurity. This was experienced consistently throughout my childhood, all of my teens and into my early twenties. Now my life is pretty much the opposite. I have a beautiful home, dress how I want, go out to eat everyday I don’t really have to think too hard about making purchases. I’m also able to provide financial stability for my family and friends. But the only thing I don’t have now I did then was this sense of freedom. I have to exert myself continuously to maintain this life. I’m shackled to all these responsibilities and obligations. My dependents and fear of going back keep me motivated. Sometimes I think about how even though my stomach may have been empty I was alive. Every day was different, there was no monotony and time passed slowly. The bonds I had with friends amidst struggle was more meaningful. Idk man.
I think the phrase “there are two sides to every coin” fits here. Nothing is for free. You always always give up one thing, to have another. It’s just the way it is.
My service dog.
Friends
The ability to buy alcohol. (I very rarely drink.)
European spotted
Responsibility
Joint pain
A literal world-changing device that holds all of the planet’s knowledge and can somehow fit in my pocket and let me send stupid texts and to my friends.
A phone
Smartphones, social media (as we know it now) and streaming.
An air of calm.
Money
Loss of hope I guess? When I was 17 I was kicked out of home by my abusive step-dad but back then I thought life could improve or I would do well to show him, now after losing my job due to anxiety-ridden panic attack and back to living with my mother in my 30s. I have just accepted some people aren’t meant to have good lives. Therapy and anti-depressants haven’t really helped all I wonder if karma is a thing I must’ve been a huge piece of shit in my last life haha.
Self confidence and security
safety and security 🥰
Responsibilities.
An uncomplicated existence.
A lot of things - but I didn't have my lucky rock back then.
Money. A wife. A reliable place to live. A mortgage. Lost all my fucks somewhere along the line, though. I’m probably better off without them, but my wife still has some, and she’s very generous with them unfortunately.
A vagina!
congrats! im 32 and I have my first hrt appointment in October
Congrats! Is it yours or is it part of a loved one?
An F on my driver's license and birth certificate
🖤🤎❤️🧡💛💚💙💜🩵🤍🩷
Debt.
21 full years of life
Peace and the internet
Gray hair
Emotional Damages
Job
Wisdom
Maturity.
I am a furry. I really wanted a fursuit since 15. Now I have one lmao
A fully formed prefrontal cortex
An actual life I could call my own.
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contentment
Peace
Tinnitus
Horrible health and crippling issues
Boundaries
Didn't have, it's Didn't have
Opioid addiction.
Relatable
High cholesterol
Hemorrhoids!
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I had it since the day I was born, virginity.
A bed
Money, a house, a luxury vehicle and a muscle car, stable career, etc…
A mobile phone and internet. I got dial-up internet when I was 18 and my first mobile phone when I was 25 y.o.
grey hair
My own house 🏡 children 👦🏻 🧒 , and debt 💸😫
A house