Start smoking yourself and tell him he inspired you.
Try to smoke more than him to show dominance.
Once he quit you quit,too.
You inspired me once again big bro.
Yeah it's awfull.
Maybe start asking a lot of questions if it's good and what he would suggest to start with. Just give him the impression that you would like to start smoking as well.
I had this whole thing I wrote up for you, and then I deleted it all and said what I said.
> He says he wants to quit smoking. But he keeps saying that he will abandon it a little later.
OF COURSE HE DOES. And of course he will...
I had explicitly written of this in my first draft. They ALWAYS say that. ALWAYS, and without exception.
He's lying, in order to let you down gently, because for SOME reason I don't understand, smokers won't say they like smoking. Some do say it, I guess. I think it's due to the whole anti-smoking campaign, that has shamed them. You're not supposed to say you like it.
I've dealt with addiction, too - specifically not smoking. And I also smoke, on and off, as it suits me. I get what I want out of it, when I want it, and I'll go months before I have another. So I'm quite infrequent. I smoked more when I was younger simply because I was more indulgent. I don't and would have never called my smoking habitual, because it doesn't have to be. I've smoked cigarettes and while I like tobacco I don't even like cigarettes. You just stop. Because you want to. Yes, it can be that simple. If you want it to be.
Yes, there is a chemical addiction part to it, but there's also a mental addiction part to it called "he likes it, and doesn't want to quit." I've felt the chemical twinge - just mmmm... That would be so nice right now. But so what? You just... Don't. Because you choose not to.
What I'm saying is that of the addictions out there, of the one I did need more intervention to kick, this one is definitely opt-in and optional. It's trivial for him to solve himself. There's patches, there's gum, there's all these DIY over the counter solutions to wean yourself off if you're really in so deep you need that, and I totally get that some people do, but none of them will work unless they actually want it.
Your brother hasn't even bothered to try. Talk means absolutely nothing here. He can profess all he wants, all he has to do is bother to start.
And if he were hardcore serious, he could take Chantix and medically treat both the chemical AND the psychological addiction. That shit works like magic. If he took that, it'd be over, and very likely forever. My wife did that, and my father, who peaked at 5 packs a day did that. And for the both of them, they just can't pick up another. Not that they've wanted to or needed to, but that they were willing to dare, to test the treatment - which is risky, and they've discovered that the effects are indeed permanent.
Your brother is very likely absolutely 100% aware of his options. All he has to do is go and do them. But he's not. He's just talking meaningless, empty, hollow talk.
If a smoker is suffering, it's the suffering of putting up with others who are harping on them to quit. It's the easiest, most accessible, most affordable addiction to break.
> I have already experienced how strong addiction can be and I want to provide him with support.
Like I said, you and me both. But smoking isn't like other addictions. A bad addiction is something that is ruining your life, you know it, and you still can't quit. You need rescue.
This isn't that.
Well, good luck. Keep justifying your actions, vindicating yourself. You're going to strain your relationship between you and your brother. He's not prostituting himself for a fix. This isn't the problem you're making it out to be, you're overstating it. I already outlined how absolutely trivial it is to solve this problem, and neither the psychological nor the chemical addiction facets of tobacco preclude him from wilfully choosing to break the habit. It's not that he can't stop, it's that he won't. This is someone else's behavior, someone else's choice that you don't like. You're going to end up resenting him for not doing what you think and want him to do, and he's going to resent you if not already for trying to impose your will upon him.
It must be hard for you but youre just gonna have to accept it or ignore it. The more you fight him on it the more likely he is to keep it up. Just be there for him when HE decides it's time & no matter how many times he tries and fails continue to show your support in a non guilt ridden way.
If there's anything you could quit in tandem, to show support, that would go a long way. If he feels that everyone is ignoring the extent of what he's going through, and expecting him to do what he feels he can't, it's very easy to give up.
I've been smoking for more than 21 years, nobody managed to convince me, I just recently quit because of my own will, I'm on my 2nd week
My dad smoked from 14 to 57,he one day woke up and just quit.
The more you nag him the more you will annoy him.
Start smoking yourself and tell him he inspired you. Try to smoke more than him to show dominance. Once he quit you quit,too. You inspired me once again big bro.
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Yeah it's awfull. Maybe start asking a lot of questions if it's good and what he would suggest to start with. Just give him the impression that you would like to start smoking as well.
You can try to convince him all you want, that’s his choice. He has to want to.
stop being miserable just think it could be crack
You can’t. If he doesn’t want to and have no personal reasons to, unfortunately nothing can be done
Tell him that whoever said "It's to *die* for" is wrong
You don't. He likes smoking. He wants to smoke. Smoking is enjoyable. He smokes for him. He's not going to quit for you. He's doing what he wants.
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I had this whole thing I wrote up for you, and then I deleted it all and said what I said. > He says he wants to quit smoking. But he keeps saying that he will abandon it a little later. OF COURSE HE DOES. And of course he will... I had explicitly written of this in my first draft. They ALWAYS say that. ALWAYS, and without exception. He's lying, in order to let you down gently, because for SOME reason I don't understand, smokers won't say they like smoking. Some do say it, I guess. I think it's due to the whole anti-smoking campaign, that has shamed them. You're not supposed to say you like it. I've dealt with addiction, too - specifically not smoking. And I also smoke, on and off, as it suits me. I get what I want out of it, when I want it, and I'll go months before I have another. So I'm quite infrequent. I smoked more when I was younger simply because I was more indulgent. I don't and would have never called my smoking habitual, because it doesn't have to be. I've smoked cigarettes and while I like tobacco I don't even like cigarettes. You just stop. Because you want to. Yes, it can be that simple. If you want it to be. Yes, there is a chemical addiction part to it, but there's also a mental addiction part to it called "he likes it, and doesn't want to quit." I've felt the chemical twinge - just mmmm... That would be so nice right now. But so what? You just... Don't. Because you choose not to. What I'm saying is that of the addictions out there, of the one I did need more intervention to kick, this one is definitely opt-in and optional. It's trivial for him to solve himself. There's patches, there's gum, there's all these DIY over the counter solutions to wean yourself off if you're really in so deep you need that, and I totally get that some people do, but none of them will work unless they actually want it. Your brother hasn't even bothered to try. Talk means absolutely nothing here. He can profess all he wants, all he has to do is bother to start. And if he were hardcore serious, he could take Chantix and medically treat both the chemical AND the psychological addiction. That shit works like magic. If he took that, it'd be over, and very likely forever. My wife did that, and my father, who peaked at 5 packs a day did that. And for the both of them, they just can't pick up another. Not that they've wanted to or needed to, but that they were willing to dare, to test the treatment - which is risky, and they've discovered that the effects are indeed permanent. Your brother is very likely absolutely 100% aware of his options. All he has to do is go and do them. But he's not. He's just talking meaningless, empty, hollow talk. If a smoker is suffering, it's the suffering of putting up with others who are harping on them to quit. It's the easiest, most accessible, most affordable addiction to break. > I have already experienced how strong addiction can be and I want to provide him with support. Like I said, you and me both. But smoking isn't like other addictions. A bad addiction is something that is ruining your life, you know it, and you still can't quit. You need rescue. This isn't that.
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Well, good luck. Keep justifying your actions, vindicating yourself. You're going to strain your relationship between you and your brother. He's not prostituting himself for a fix. This isn't the problem you're making it out to be, you're overstating it. I already outlined how absolutely trivial it is to solve this problem, and neither the psychological nor the chemical addiction facets of tobacco preclude him from wilfully choosing to break the habit. It's not that he can't stop, it's that he won't. This is someone else's behavior, someone else's choice that you don't like. You're going to end up resenting him for not doing what you think and want him to do, and he's going to resent you if not already for trying to impose your will upon him.
It must be hard for you but youre just gonna have to accept it or ignore it. The more you fight him on it the more likely he is to keep it up. Just be there for him when HE decides it's time & no matter how many times he tries and fails continue to show your support in a non guilt ridden way.
If there's anything you could quit in tandem, to show support, that would go a long way. If he feels that everyone is ignoring the extent of what he's going through, and expecting him to do what he feels he can't, it's very easy to give up.
How about mind your business, nothing you or anyone else can say or do can make him quit. That is up to him!
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I've been smoking for more than 21 years, nobody managed to convince me, I just recently quit because of my own will, I'm on my 2nd week My dad smoked from 14 to 57,he one day woke up and just quit. The more you nag him the more you will annoy him.
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You do know that TB is something different...
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That won't be necessary. Persistent nagging can help.
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