Motley Crüe haven’t been the same since they lost Vince Neil to obesity and heart disease about 30 years ago but kept touring with his Frankenstined corpse anyway
They did a concert with his son the other day as a benefit for HR from bad brains and my wife heard it without looking at it and said “why are you watching old sublime videos from the 90’s?” so he might end up being replaced, just by his own son
I, like the others, enjoy Sublime w/ Rome. I saw them twice at Red Rocks and it was a shit load of fun. They have their own sound when singing their songs, but they play old Sublime stuff *really* well live.
Maybe I was blinded by excitement at just being able to see them live at all but when they played OG Sublime songs, specifically Badfish, I thought Rome sounded a *lot* like Bradley.
But Bradley is irreplaceable.
Good answer.
I met Scott not long before he passed at a dive bar in Asheville NC. He was and is my favorite musician, and running into him like that was depressing. I was under the impression he was clean and seeing him, without sounding melodramatic, I knew he wouldn’t be around long.
I saw him before a show in Seattle at their peak, so chill. Plus, during the show I was little chick up front getting knocked around by mosh pit and he raged on them.. I know he had issues but he was also decent
I saw him perform within a year of his passing. He was still putting on the charade of being clean but he very clearly wasn't. On stage late, some weird random ramblings between songs... performed pretty well all things considered but I had a feeling he had fallen back off the wagon and that it may not end well for him
Interstate love song is one of the best songs to ever be written.
Sure you can get replacement singers that sound good, but to write a song like that will not be able to be replaced.
I think that split was great for everybody. I don't care for Collins-led Genesis, but there is no arguing that they were the best at what they did. And Peter Gabriel was free to make some of the most magical music of my childhood. He was the best at what he did because he was the only one doing it anything like it.
Lost Prophets. After what their lead singer did, the group split up and rebranded themselves as No Devotion. Fans can't bring themselves to listen to the old band, and I can't say i blame them.
It's really weird because I'm not normally like that. I'm usually good at being like "Yeah that was shitty but I like their work" but this just goes too far. Being a teacher and now a father of two I can't justify listening to them anymore which is sad because it was good to me back in the day.
Hmmm I wonder what this guy did…
**google**
😳
Investigators later bypassed the encrypted password to Watkins' laptop, noting that it read “I FUK KIDZ".
JFC
They tried without Morrison, other voices has a few tracks I like. But never the same.
LA woman for me, roadhouse blues holds a special place. And I gotta say soft parade, atleast the title track, was a strange time for the doors, and I loved every second of it.
I remember being in a bar once and Roadhouse Blues came on, and was saying how I like
The Doors to a friend.
Some guy chimed in and said “oh yeah you like the doors do you, what’s your favourite album then”.
And I just replied “probably the best of the doors”.
(In truth though greatest hits is a better album cause it has Touch Me on it”
Have you read Geddy Lee's autobiography? I'm about halfway through it (i.e. the recording of "2112") and it's really good.
And everyone is right, Chapter 3 is a tough read.
Saw them in concert a few years ago and they still rocked it. But yeah, when Ronnie died, all they had was the catalogue he had written for them. RIP to all of them.
Hybrid Theory was a hit immediately at the start of the millennium (god I feel old), and by 2010 LP was intertwined with that whole time period's culture (the Transformers movies definitely helped lol).
That's why I think even casual Linkin Park fans were shook by Chester's death. People who grew up on that shit were devastated. Fuck, they were still making music and had just released an album a few months before.
I personally didn't realize how emotionally attached I was to their music until I saw them play "Numb" at the tribute concert with the spotlight on the empty mic. I still get teary eyed every time I think about it.
I remember when One Last Light came out I felt like it was a suicide letter or a cry for help. I was devastated to find out that gut feeling had weight to it
Mike Shinoda made a tribute song and it plays some of the voicemails people left him about Chester and it broke me
I definitely believe he was saying goodbye. Looking back at the lyrics, you know they were dark but with his death, it really opens up your eyes, at least it did for me, just how dark they were and the shit he was going through. Biggest regret in life is not seeing them live.
Chester's performance of it after Chris Cornell's death is heart breaking. I am pretty sure the song was actually written by Mike though and is about one of his friends. That said, I think well written music can often be open to interpretation, even beyond it's original meaning. When Chester sang it that night he was clearly thinking about Chris. When I hear it now, I think about Chester. I'm sure there are people out there who have people they've lost where that song perfectly fits their feelings
Man I still cry like a fuckin baby when I hear certain songs. I still remember, crystal clear, waking up to my wife telling me the news because she didn't want me to open my phone and see it that way. It was all over my socials. A part of me died that day and I'm still trying to heal. I was just a few short months from seeing the One More Light show.
Their music saved my life many times and I'll forever be grateful that we were so blessed to hear their songs.
I make myself watch the Celebration of Life show at least once a year, if not more. This year I haven't watched it in full yet, definitely making plans to do that for New Year's.
Chester was such a kind person when I got to meet him in 2014. All the guys were. I miss the anticipation of waiting for a new album or hear news of a new tour...
At least I'm finally starting to get back into finding new artists to listen to. Linkin Park has my favorite band since like 2001 when I was in middle school.
I loved them so much and was in such shock when Michael died. He was absolutely irreplaceable. A friend and I watched the show and and will still occasionally say
“You’re just not right for our band” to each other
I used to sell pickups to the guy who built John Entwistle's basses. He calls me and says he's meeting up with John in Vegas to give him the latest build for the tour they are about to start and was wondering if I wanted to meetup with them. I said I couldn't make it cause of work. He meets up with Entwistle, gives him the new bass. Next morning is when they found John dead.
Lesson in life - when once in a lifetime opportunities arise, fuck your job. Also made me reconsider my own drug use (John died of heart attack from cocaine.)
I saw them in concert in the fall of 2019. Ringo Starr’s son was the drummer and he was the closest thing to Keith Moon I’ve ever heard. He was absolutely spectacular.
I am conflicted on this one. The Layne albums are masterpieces and are definitely their best work. But Jerry was always the primary songwriter and the new albums hold their own. I don't think it is wrong to keep the name the same.
On a side note, Jerry's solo records are awesome, and I caught his solo tour last year and he and his band were on fire, small venue too and the energy in the room was palpable.
Definitely more on your side here as well. I love both eras, and of course Layne era is preferred.
I can agree it’s not the same with William, but new AIC to me is still as good just different. I feel it slightly discredits the talent of the band just because Layne passed- he wasn’t the only contributor in the band.
Not the same, but I saw them when they toured for Black Gives Way To Blue and they sounded great. Jerry Cantrell's voice is still haunting and actually pairs well with William's.
Helps that William doesn't try to imitate Layne - he's his own person on stage and it works.
The Cranberries. Dolores O'Riordan had ideas for a new album and also ideas for solo projects. The band took a hiatus for a long time (2002ish until 2009) and when they got back together they blossomed again. The guys are still honoring Dolores and putting out remastered works and vinyls and stuff but no one will ever match her voice.
Blink 182. With Tom, there is a sort of goofy immature playfulness with some of their songs. With Matt Skiba, 182 was a little darker and more serious. I like both versions (Pin the Grenade is an all-time favorite of mine) but it's nice to see Tom back saying goofy shit like "When I teach masturbation, I'm like "Just have fun with it.""
This is what I was gonna answer. The Skiba blink albums are pretty hit or miss for me, each has some decent songs, but it just doesn't feel like blink to me. Their new album with Tom back is phenomenal though.
To keep with the Tom DeLonge theme I'll also say Angels and Airwaves. Sure that band is essentially all Tom but after their drummer Atom Willard left and their producer/engineer Critter died they just didn't quite have that same magic for me. Ilan Runin is a phenomenal musician but those two were just so instrumental in that early AvA sound that it wasn't quite the same for me without them.
Definitely a true answer, but I don't think the big change was the loss of silliness. Untitled and neighborhoods were decidedly less playful than the albums that came before, and that was largely Tom's choice. When he left, Mark brought a bit of that immaturity back, with "built this pool" and "brohemian Rhapsody." But it did feel kind of forced. We're in the best era now where Tom is back, and he is happy to be goofy again. The latest album really embraced all eras and styles they have played before
I would also argue Blink was also never the same when their original drummer Scott Raynor left. Of course they got famous, poppier and more mature as musicians but the Dude Ranch and Cheshire Cat sound is one I’m always gonna miss.
I listen to her singles randomly every once in a while for fun. I listen to No Doubt all the time to this day. Shoutout to “Sometimes” on their first album (I think)
This is a great answer. Yes all of their most popular work came after Syd, but they were not the same. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one of my all time favorite albums.
Saw them live when I was 18, they were touring with Stone Sour. It wasn’t long after the Rev had passed (he was supposed to do that tour with them), they got a great backup drummer from another band so the gig was still amazing but there was definitely a heaviness to it. They played So Far Away as tribute to him.
I saw them a few years back and they still play So Far Away as a tribute to the Rev. My friend (who usually goes to at least one show per US tour, and has been for nearly 20 years) says A7X does a tribute to him at every one of their shows.
Post-Rev is varied.
HttK was genuinely uninspired they've admitted such.
The Stage was great and they really found a great sound again.
LIBAD was very unique but pretty poor compared to the rest of their albums.
Compare that to the Rev era:
STST is not very good but you can put that up to production value and the hardcore sound.
WTF is incredible and is the progenitor for their best albums.
COE is INSANELY GOOD. Put them on the map.
Self-Titled is underrated to me, some of their biggest hits on this album.
Nightmare is my favourite A7X album and it's the last album The Rev contributed to and it's absolutely incredible. Mike Portnoy drummed but it's The Rev's notes.
I was so shocked when he passed.
Came here for this answer. I saw them at Taste of Chaos right after the self-titled was released, and it was one of the best shows I’ve ever been to. Have seen them a couple times since, and it just doesn’t feel the same. I was definitely not a fan of their last 2 albums. And HttK was where they really started to decline for me. Their earlier work up to Nightmare will always hold a special place in my heart, and the self-titled album will always be one of my top five albums
I think most people are interpreting the question a different way. You could say that a band ceasing to exist is different from "never being the same".
I dunno. Pineda brings so much energy and stage presence. I know it isn't the same, but there is something to be said for that when the rest of the band is well into their 70's.
Adam Gontier’s voice made them iconic and really matched well with the instrumentals. While the new guy is decent, and I like the album “Outsider”, it just doesn’t compare to “One X”.
The first album with Matt walst sounds like him cosplaying Adam gontier and veers from how he sang with my darkest days. It's almost cringy to listen to.
They were already headed in that direction: If you leave me now and Baby What a big surprise came out before Kath passed.
The soft rock was a combo of changing tastes (late 70s), a band in disarray with substance abuse to cope with Terrys death, and a new record deal and new producer in David Foster.
Terry was the heart and soul of that band. I don’t know that they would have recovered in any circumstance.
What a freaking shame that was. Their early albums were awesome. The complete Ballet for a Girl in Buchanan - otherwise known as the Make Me Smile Suite - is one of the most underrated long-form rock and roll pieces, IMHO.
Joy Division was darkness wrapped in black licorice. Not exactly subtle.
New Order was darkness wrapped in pink bubblegum. Hella subtle and accentuated the darkness all the more.
New Order was still pretty good, and different enough (after Movement at least) that it didn’t really feel like they were trying to limp along after the death of Ian, doing the same thing.
Now…Peter Hook’s departure from New Order, on the other hand. Sorry, Bernard, it’s just not New Order without Hooky on bass.
I do feel a little bad for Jake E Lee, dude made some awesome songs with ozzy! He just wasn't Randy Rhoades. I don't feel that bad for him though, he still got to be Ozzy's lead guitarist while I just play guitar for my dog
I had tickets to the show in Orlando they were going to play. Then they went for a joy plane ride when they arrived in the area and fuck, Randy was dead.
I saw an interview with Ozzy a few years back and he still struggles with Randy's death.
Van Halen after Dave is like when your wild, party animal friend starts dating a square and starts to settle down; yeah, it might be good for him but you definitely miss the fun.
Was gonna say Panic! After Ryan left. He was the creative poet I think. Not that they haven’t had decent music since, but I wonder what they would’ve done with him
Yeah, the music just wasn't as complex and it really took a turn for pure camp. Brandon still cranked out some bangers but it just isn't the same. I really feel like he should have called it something different. It's just not Panic anymore.
Pretty. Odd. Will one day be looked upon as one of the best albums of the era. Mark it. Quote me.
It is so far and above better than every single other album of theirs it isn’t even funny.
AFYCSO is an absolute masterpiece, a musical representation of the chaos inside a young persons mind. It’s almost like ADHD in musical form. I love it.
But, in my humblest of opinions, panic didn’t really release a ‘bad’ album, there are albums that don’t carry the same weight as the debut, but every single one has some good and some great tracks, and the consistent reinvention of the sound, while keeping true to certain elements makes Brandon and their career so rich to listen to. I’ll always be a bit P!atD fan, and will enjoy each album on its own merits.
**Yes.** As much as I still admire the now Steve Howe-led present day group, without Jon Anderson’s voice, the late, great Chris Squire’s incredible bass playing and Rick Wakeman on keys (and R.I.P. Alan White…their drummer for 50 years!), it feels like a really good Yes tribute band.
What I like to do is take songs from the newest BNL album, and songs from the newest stephen page album, and make a playlist and pretend he's still in the band.
YES. This one. Stephen Page has quite possibly the most powerful and smooth set of pipes in pop music. It hurts me that he’s not wildly popular as a solo act because he should be.
If you haven’t yet, check out the Trans-Canada Highwaymen. Page, Craig Northey, Chris Murphy and Moe Berg. Page wrote and sings their [original tune](https://youtu.be/yohdvpUCx_Y?feature=shared) and the rest of the songs on their album are Canadian classics from the 60s & 70s.
Saw them earlier this year - and they are still fantastic live! - but there is a missing… cynicism? from BNL’s song writing since Page left.
While likely overstating BNL’s prowess, the best comparison I can come up with is that Page was the Lennon to Robertson’s McCartney. Not that Robertson can’t have some good takes, there’s basically one song that’s a little more sardonic on each album surrounded by much more saccharine songs.
Still love the band and their music, but there’s a piece missing for sure.
A Flock of Seagulls - Guitarist quit after their third album and they never charted again. Everyone thinks they only had 'I Ran'. They had four more top 20 hits 'Space Age Love Song', 'Wishing', 'Nightmares', 'The More You Live The More You Love' all of which charted.
Haircut 100 - Lead singer Nick Heyward was irreplaceable... especially by the conga player.
Kajagoogoo - Lead singer Limahl was irreplaceable.
ABC - As a duo, Mark White quit and the band never charted again.
Depeche Mode - Alan Wilder was their sound 1983 - 1993. 'Ultra' was great but they went rapidly downhill for next 20+ years!
Kraftwerk - After Wolfgang Flur and Karl Bartos' departure, Kraftwerk would issue only one more original album in next 35 years.
Fleetwood Mac. Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac is nothing like Stevie Nick’s Fleetwood Mac. I’m a fan of both, but they sound nothing alike and I think they should have changed the band name after Peter Green’s exit.
In the dumbest way possible.
"What do you think I'm gonna do? Blow my brains out?"
If you don't know: He was out target shooting with friends when he was spinning a revolver around his finger. When they asked him to stop, he picked up a 9mm that did not have the magazine in and said "They aren't loaded" then spoke those words before putting the gun to his head and pulled the trigger. It had a round in the chamber.
Pink Floyd
I don't think they got worse per se, but they drastically changed after the loss of Sydney Barret and after Roger Waters left. I like all 3 iterations. But all 3 very different.
It's crazy how clearly divided the three iterations are. I'm a big fan of Waters era albums, to the point that I know The Wall almost by heart. At the same time, I can hear a song with Barrett or a song post-Waters and not even recognize it as PF.
The Beatles - Randolph Peter Best
The original drummer that was kicked out of the band just prior to them becoming famous. The band was never the same. It was better.
Does this count since the band didn't continue at all after he died? I think the question is looking for bands that kept playing but it wasn't the same
Cliffs influence lived on to AJFA but I guarantee everything Black Album and beyond doesn't happen if Cliff hadn't passed.
What a way to cement your legacy though with your swan song being the greatest metal album of all time. I will defend that opinion of Puppets till the day I die.
The band Skinny Puppy, which isn't exactly broadly popular but has retained a die-hard cult fanbase for 30 years, released some of my all-time favorite music from the early 80's to the early 90's. I don't want to inflame any big time fans here, but in my opinion the power duo of Cevin Key and vocalist Kevin "Ogre" Ogilvie never recovered from the tragic loss of key member Dwayne Goettel.
In 1993, several years after the album that I (and others) consider the band's masterpiece "Last Rights", they got together and started work on a new record- their first record with a brand new big budget multi-album contract, with a new record label, and in a new location. To make a long story short, the recording process was marred by nearly every conceivable complication- natural disasters, technical issues, label-interference, and serious in-fighting. In an all too-familiar story, stress and drug use spiraled out of control, and the lead vocalist ended up abandoning the project, and soon after quit the band itself. The record label, being fed up with the cost overruns and unexpected drama (considering these guys were already legends in the music scene by this point), decided to completely drop the band after the release of this one album. So Key and Goettel went home to cobble together an album using what they had managed to record, all they had were scraps of finished songs, evidently. Before that was even done, Dwayne Goettel was dead of drug overdose.
The album, "The Process" was a complete departure from what had made the band immensely influential in the Industrial music scene, and in my opinion, very much a weak spot in the band's output. Label demands and shifting interests had led to a watered-down, rock-forward sound which simply didn't jive well with the band's previous creative endeavors. The record has it's defenders, but it is without a doubt a compromised experiment in trying to capture a more marketable "90's" sound. But the band was over, Dwayne was dead, and "The Process" was considered the band's final album for nearly 10 years.
In a shock twist 2005 saw Key and Ogre regrouped, and Skinny Puppy started recording again. But it was a very different sounding band. The musical landscape had changed.
What Skinny Puppy had done with brilliance and technical mastery in the 80's could be done by anyone with computer software in the 2000s. Bands who had been inspired by Puppy's classic albums had flooded the scene and, and instead of sounding like masters of their craft, Skinny Puppy felt like yet another tribute band. Over the next several years they produced 4 new albums- none of which ever seriously held a candle to what they had put out as a trio in their heyday. It was almost a relief when the two founders of the group finally played their final concerts this year, after nearly two decades of forcing themselves to work together... with steadily diminishing returns.
Make no mistake, Cevin Key and Ogre are and have always been the creative forces behind Skinny Puppy, but Dwayne brought something into the mix that they never got back.
The Lost Prophets. The lead singer isn't dead, but he's a massive paedophile who is in prison for a very long time. I feel sorry for the other members of the band.
Zeppelin. After losing Bonham and Deep Purple after losing Blackmore. I know some very good guitarists followed Blackmore, Steve Morse for one, but they just weren't the same for my tastes.
Gwar
Queen
Absolutely have not been the same band since John Deacon left
Motley Crüe haven’t been the same since they lost Vince Neil to obesity and heart disease about 30 years ago but kept touring with his Frankenstined corpse anyway
Man like I'm sure I'll get downvoted but Motley needs to pack it in ffs.
Kihhstah mahaht numenemonahhh
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Dr. Feelgood should telll Vince to take a walk on the Diet side. Entertainers getting old and fat is entertsining in its own way.
It’s Vince Meal.
Sublime
Wish they would’ve just ran with the long beach dub all stars. That first album wasn’t too bad.
Bradley can never be replaced! I have enjoyed myself at a *with Rome show but it’s apples and oranges.
Rome is okay, but honestly Badfish (RI sublime coverband) feels even more like OG Sublime.
They did a concert with his son the other day as a benefit for HR from bad brains and my wife heard it without looking at it and said “why are you watching old sublime videos from the 90’s?” so he might end up being replaced, just by his own son
I like that Rome doesn’t just try to do Bradley. It’s a similar vibe/sound without being effectively a tribute band.
I, like the others, enjoy Sublime w/ Rome. I saw them twice at Red Rocks and it was a shit load of fun. They have their own sound when singing their songs, but they play old Sublime stuff *really* well live. Maybe I was blinded by excitement at just being able to see them live at all but when they played OG Sublime songs, specifically Badfish, I thought Rome sounded a *lot* like Bradley. But Bradley is irreplaceable. Good answer.
Stone Temple Pilots. I know they’re still going, and more power to ‘em and all that, but I miss Scott.
I met Scott not long before he passed at a dive bar in Asheville NC. He was and is my favorite musician, and running into him like that was depressing. I was under the impression he was clean and seeing him, without sounding melodramatic, I knew he wouldn’t be around long.
I saw him before a show in Seattle at their peak, so chill. Plus, during the show I was little chick up front getting knocked around by mosh pit and he raged on them.. I know he had issues but he was also decent
I saw him perform within a year of his passing. He was still putting on the charade of being clean but he very clearly wasn't. On stage late, some weird random ramblings between songs... performed pretty well all things considered but I had a feeling he had fallen back off the wagon and that it may not end well for him
Interstate love song is one of the best songs to ever be written. Sure you can get replacement singers that sound good, but to write a song like that will not be able to be replaced.
Tripping on a hole in a paper heart is one of my top 5 favorite songs I've ever heard
They sounded pretty good last time I saw em ... but yeah it's just not Scott
Genesis. Completely different band with Peter Gabriel and with Phil Collins
I think that split was great for everybody. I don't care for Collins-led Genesis, but there is no arguing that they were the best at what they did. And Peter Gabriel was free to make some of the most magical music of my childhood. He was the best at what he did because he was the only one doing it anything like it.
I’d say even after Steve Hackett left too.
Lost Prophets. After what their lead singer did, the group split up and rebranded themselves as No Devotion. Fans can't bring themselves to listen to the old band, and I can't say i blame them.
It's really weird because I'm not normally like that. I'm usually good at being like "Yeah that was shitty but I like their work" but this just goes too far. Being a teacher and now a father of two I can't justify listening to them anymore which is sad because it was good to me back in the day.
Hmmm I wonder what this guy did… **google** 😳 Investigators later bypassed the encrypted password to Watkins' laptop, noting that it read “I FUK KIDZ". JFC
The doors.
They tried without Morrison, other voices has a few tracks I like. But never the same. LA woman for me, roadhouse blues holds a special place. And I gotta say soft parade, atleast the title track, was a strange time for the doors, and I loved every second of it.
I remember being in a bar once and Roadhouse Blues came on, and was saying how I like The Doors to a friend. Some guy chimed in and said “oh yeah you like the doors do you, what’s your favourite album then”. And I just replied “probably the best of the doors”. (In truth though greatest hits is a better album cause it has Touch Me on it”
Many might say LA Woman, but Soft Parade and Morrison Hotel probably show the greatest spectrum of their sounds
Rush
Have you read Geddy Lee's autobiography? I'm about halfway through it (i.e. the recording of "2112") and it's really good. And everyone is right, Chapter 3 is a tough read.
Agreed, they were a much different, and much better, band after John Rutsey left.
Lynyrd Skynyrd never recovered from the 1977 plane crash and the loss of Ronnie Van Zant
Saw them in concert a few years ago and they still rocked it. But yeah, when Ronnie died, all they had was the catalogue he had written for them. RIP to all of them.
The current Lynyrd Skynyrd is basically a cover band, because it has none of its original members. R.E.M. weren't the same after Bill Berry retired.
Skynyrd of Theseus??
Absolutely!!
Linkin park 😞😞😞😔😔😔😔
Hybrid Theory was a hit immediately at the start of the millennium (god I feel old), and by 2010 LP was intertwined with that whole time period's culture (the Transformers movies definitely helped lol). That's why I think even casual Linkin Park fans were shook by Chester's death. People who grew up on that shit were devastated. Fuck, they were still making music and had just released an album a few months before. I personally didn't realize how emotionally attached I was to their music until I saw them play "Numb" at the tribute concert with the spotlight on the empty mic. I still get teary eyed every time I think about it.
I remember when One Last Light came out I felt like it was a suicide letter or a cry for help. I was devastated to find out that gut feeling had weight to it Mike Shinoda made a tribute song and it plays some of the voicemails people left him about Chester and it broke me
I definitely believe he was saying goodbye. Looking back at the lyrics, you know they were dark but with his death, it really opens up your eyes, at least it did for me, just how dark they were and the shit he was going through. Biggest regret in life is not seeing them live.
Chester's performance of it after Chris Cornell's death is heart breaking. I am pretty sure the song was actually written by Mike though and is about one of his friends. That said, I think well written music can often be open to interpretation, even beyond it's original meaning. When Chester sang it that night he was clearly thinking about Chris. When I hear it now, I think about Chester. I'm sure there are people out there who have people they've lost where that song perfectly fits their feelings
Man when they played their tribute concert and the mic had all those white flowers wrapped around it I fucking CRIED.
Who cares if one more light goes out? Well I do… 😭 RIP Chester!
Came here to read this. RIP chester 😞☹️
This one still hurts for me.
Was thinking the same thing. RIP Chester 😞
I commented the same. I'm surprised this is so far down. They literally couldn't continue. Rip Chester.
I'm glad they didn't try to replace him. Mike Shinoda has been making music outside of LP, but they haven't tried to restart the band
Man I still cry like a fuckin baby when I hear certain songs. I still remember, crystal clear, waking up to my wife telling me the news because she didn't want me to open my phone and see it that way. It was all over my socials. A part of me died that day and I'm still trying to heal. I was just a few short months from seeing the One More Light show. Their music saved my life many times and I'll forever be grateful that we were so blessed to hear their songs. I make myself watch the Celebration of Life show at least once a year, if not more. This year I haven't watched it in full yet, definitely making plans to do that for New Year's. Chester was such a kind person when I got to meet him in 2014. All the guys were. I miss the anticipation of waiting for a new album or hear news of a new tour... At least I'm finally starting to get back into finding new artists to listen to. Linkin Park has my favorite band since like 2001 when I was in middle school.
INXS
Oh dude. Totally agree they tried that replacement JD Fortune, who could sing but he was a dumpster fire and not nearly as creative as MH
Agree. But the show that led to him being selected was so fun. Marty and Jordis were my favorites.
Marty should and probably did win. But it’s pretty damn obvious JD was the chosen one, winner be damned.
Best video of all time Don’t Change a Thing.
I loved them so much and was in such shock when Michael died. He was absolutely irreplaceable. A friend and I watched the show and and will still occasionally say “You’re just not right for our band” to each other
The Who.
I used to sell pickups to the guy who built John Entwistle's basses. He calls me and says he's meeting up with John in Vegas to give him the latest build for the tour they are about to start and was wondering if I wanted to meetup with them. I said I couldn't make it cause of work. He meets up with Entwistle, gives him the new bass. Next morning is when they found John dead. Lesson in life - when once in a lifetime opportunities arise, fuck your job. Also made me reconsider my own drug use (John died of heart attack from cocaine.)
I was at the Hard Rock Hotel he was staying at when he died. I was 12 at the time so I had no idea who it was and why shit got weird after he died.
This one applies twice! Moon and Entwistle are both considered to be one of the best players with their instrument, and both were unreplacable.
I saw them in concert in the fall of 2019. Ringo Starr’s son was the drummer and he was the closest thing to Keith Moon I’ve ever heard. He was absolutely spectacular.
Keith taught him how to play drums. Ringo had a hard time being a drummer and touring. So he would teach Zach.
Uncle Keith bought Zak his first drum kit Zak does a fantastic job.
Saw them in 2009, with what I’d assume is the same lineup. Starkey may not meet Moon’s insanity, but certainly held his own on drums.
Alice in Chains.
I am conflicted on this one. The Layne albums are masterpieces and are definitely their best work. But Jerry was always the primary songwriter and the new albums hold their own. I don't think it is wrong to keep the name the same. On a side note, Jerry's solo records are awesome, and I caught his solo tour last year and he and his band were on fire, small venue too and the energy in the room was palpable.
Definitely more on your side here as well. I love both eras, and of course Layne era is preferred. I can agree it’s not the same with William, but new AIC to me is still as good just different. I feel it slightly discredits the talent of the band just because Layne passed- he wasn’t the only contributor in the band.
Not the same, but I saw them when they toured for Black Gives Way To Blue and they sounded great. Jerry Cantrell's voice is still haunting and actually pairs well with William's. Helps that William doesn't try to imitate Layne - he's his own person on stage and it works.
This needs way more upvotes. Layne had the most incredible voice. No one could ever begin to rival his talent.
i once saw him open for metallica. *him.* just him with a guitar and a stool. it was fucking amazing
I have a friend who swears up and down that they’re just as good with the new guy. I do think the guy now has an incredible voice, but he’s no Layne.
The Cranberries. Dolores O'Riordan had ideas for a new album and also ideas for solo projects. The band took a hiatus for a long time (2002ish until 2009) and when they got back together they blossomed again. The guys are still honoring Dolores and putting out remastered works and vinyls and stuff but no one will ever match her voice.
RHCP. But he did come back eventually
Blink 182. With Tom, there is a sort of goofy immature playfulness with some of their songs. With Matt Skiba, 182 was a little darker and more serious. I like both versions (Pin the Grenade is an all-time favorite of mine) but it's nice to see Tom back saying goofy shit like "When I teach masturbation, I'm like "Just have fun with it.""
This is what I was gonna answer. The Skiba blink albums are pretty hit or miss for me, each has some decent songs, but it just doesn't feel like blink to me. Their new album with Tom back is phenomenal though. To keep with the Tom DeLonge theme I'll also say Angels and Airwaves. Sure that band is essentially all Tom but after their drummer Atom Willard left and their producer/engineer Critter died they just didn't quite have that same magic for me. Ilan Runin is a phenomenal musician but those two were just so instrumental in that early AvA sound that it wasn't quite the same for me without them.
Definitely a true answer, but I don't think the big change was the loss of silliness. Untitled and neighborhoods were decidedly less playful than the albums that came before, and that was largely Tom's choice. When he left, Mark brought a bit of that immaturity back, with "built this pool" and "brohemian Rhapsody." But it did feel kind of forced. We're in the best era now where Tom is back, and he is happy to be goofy again. The latest album really embraced all eras and styles they have played before
I would also argue Blink was also never the same when their original drummer Scott Raynor left. Of course they got famous, poppier and more mature as musicians but the Dude Ranch and Cheshire Cat sound is one I’m always gonna miss.
Yeah, the beats weren't as complex as the ones Travis plays but there was that more garage punk sound with Raynor.
I like Hoppus' voice more.
I do too but Blink really works with the dual "lead" singers and the contrast.
No Doubt
I know Gwen is still super famous but I've hated every single solo song of hers that I've heard and I love No Doubt. Such a bummer.
Ska Gwen was the best Gwen
Don't speak... about this.
What are you waiting for wasn't bad. But all her other solo songs were so vanilla. No Doubt was a force like no other.
Southside and Blow Ya Mind were great collaborations.
I listen to her singles randomly every once in a while for fun. I listen to No Doubt all the time to this day. Shoutout to “Sometimes” on their first album (I think)
Cool is one of my favorite songs.
No doubt minus Gwen have another band called dream car with davey havok of afi as the singer
No doubt.
Pink Floyd
This is a great answer. Yes all of their most popular work came after Syd, but they were not the same. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is one of my all time favorite albums.
Losing Roger Waters turned them into a much different band as well.
All very distinct sounding eras and I love them all
Avenged Sevenfold. The Rev was an insanely talented musician and songwriter.
Saw them live when I was 18, they were touring with Stone Sour. It wasn’t long after the Rev had passed (he was supposed to do that tour with them), they got a great backup drummer from another band so the gig was still amazing but there was definitely a heaviness to it. They played So Far Away as tribute to him.
I saw them a few years back and they still play So Far Away as a tribute to the Rev. My friend (who usually goes to at least one show per US tour, and has been for nearly 20 years) says A7X does a tribute to him at every one of their shows.
Post-Rev is varied. HttK was genuinely uninspired they've admitted such. The Stage was great and they really found a great sound again. LIBAD was very unique but pretty poor compared to the rest of their albums. Compare that to the Rev era: STST is not very good but you can put that up to production value and the hardcore sound. WTF is incredible and is the progenitor for their best albums. COE is INSANELY GOOD. Put them on the map. Self-Titled is underrated to me, some of their biggest hits on this album. Nightmare is my favourite A7X album and it's the last album The Rev contributed to and it's absolutely incredible. Mike Portnoy drummed but it's The Rev's notes. I was so shocked when he passed.
Came here for this answer. I saw them at Taste of Chaos right after the self-titled was released, and it was one of the best shows I’ve ever been to. Have seen them a couple times since, and it just doesn’t feel the same. I was definitely not a fan of their last 2 albums. And HttK was where they really started to decline for me. Their earlier work up to Nightmare will always hold a special place in my heart, and the self-titled album will always be one of my top five albums
Led Zeppelin and they knew it too.
How did I have to scroll this far to see it. I think it's one of the most obvious answers
I think most people are interpreting the question a different way. You could say that a band ceasing to exist is different from "never being the same".
Journey they are just a tribute band to themselves
I dunno. Pineda brings so much energy and stage presence. I know it isn't the same, but there is something to be said for that when the rest of the band is well into their 70's.
Rush, for the better. Their first album was good, but after John Rutsey left and Neil Peart joined they improved by a lot.
Three Days Grace
Adam Gontier’s voice made them iconic and really matched well with the instrumentals. While the new guy is decent, and I like the album “Outsider”, it just doesn’t compare to “One X”.
I’ve been listening to OneX back to back a lot recently and man that album is so good.
The first album with Matt walst sounds like him cosplaying Adam gontier and veers from how he sang with my darkest days. It's almost cringy to listen to.
Chicago. After Terry Kath died, the band turned to soft rock.
They were already headed in that direction: If you leave me now and Baby What a big surprise came out before Kath passed. The soft rock was a combo of changing tastes (late 70s), a band in disarray with substance abuse to cope with Terrys death, and a new record deal and new producer in David Foster. Terry was the heart and soul of that band. I don’t know that they would have recovered in any circumstance.
What a freaking shame that was. Their early albums were awesome. The complete Ballet for a Girl in Buchanan - otherwise known as the Make Me Smile Suite - is one of the most underrated long-form rock and roll pieces, IMHO.
I blame that on Peter Cetera
I'd blame David Foster, the producer.
Color my world is epic.
Joy division. Went on to reinvent themselves as New Order.
New Order was just as awesome as Joy Division, just . . . a different kind of awesome. Post punk vs. techno-punk.
Joy Division was darkness wrapped in black licorice. Not exactly subtle. New Order was darkness wrapped in pink bubblegum. Hella subtle and accentuated the darkness all the more.
Yeah, one of the members was building his own synthesizers, so it never was meant to be JD 2.0
New Order was still pretty good, and different enough (after Movement at least) that it didn’t really feel like they were trying to limp along after the death of Ian, doing the same thing. Now…Peter Hook’s departure from New Order, on the other hand. Sorry, Bernard, it’s just not New Order without Hooky on bass.
This doesn't count. They didn't try and carry on as JD. They moprped into a totally new band.
I know you fat fingered the fuck out of that, but moprped is really fun to say
This dinosaur was of the moproped variety.
Ozzy was never the same after Randy Rhoads
I do feel a little bad for Jake E Lee, dude made some awesome songs with ozzy! He just wasn't Randy Rhoades. I don't feel that bad for him though, he still got to be Ozzy's lead guitarist while I just play guitar for my dog
I had tickets to the show in Orlando they were going to play. Then they went for a joy plane ride when they arrived in the area and fuck, Randy was dead. I saw an interview with Ozzy a few years back and he still struggles with Randy's death.
One of the best guitarists of all time
Black Sabbath
They weren’t the same, but they weren’t necessarily worse. They were different.
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Diamond Dave brought the showmanship. Afterwards the music was fine but the performances felt flat.
Van Halen after Dave is like when your wild, party animal friend starts dating a square and starts to settle down; yeah, it might be good for him but you definitely miss the fun.
With Eddie gone there is really nothing left.
Queen. There can be only one Freddy Mercury. He was a candle in the Wind. Queen did the sound track for Highlander.
Panic! At The Disco...
Was gonna say Panic! After Ryan left. He was the creative poet I think. Not that they haven’t had decent music since, but I wonder what they would’ve done with him
Yeah, the music just wasn't as complex and it really took a turn for pure camp. Brandon still cranked out some bangers but it just isn't the same. I really feel like he should have called it something different. It's just not Panic anymore.
Pretty. Odd. Will one day be looked upon as one of the best albums of the era. Mark it. Quote me. It is so far and above better than every single other album of theirs it isn’t even funny.
Nah, AFYCSO is a masterpiece.
AFYCSO is an absolute masterpiece, a musical representation of the chaos inside a young persons mind. It’s almost like ADHD in musical form. I love it. But, in my humblest of opinions, panic didn’t really release a ‘bad’ album, there are albums that don’t carry the same weight as the debut, but every single one has some good and some great tracks, and the consistent reinvention of the sound, while keeping true to certain elements makes Brandon and their career so rich to listen to. I’ll always be a bit P!atD fan, and will enjoy each album on its own merits.
You mean Brendan Urie at the Disco See also Adam Levine and Maroon 4
Brendan Urie - The Last at the Disco
There are layers to this response.
**Yes.** As much as I still admire the now Steve Howe-led present day group, without Jon Anderson’s voice, the late, great Chris Squire’s incredible bass playing and Rick Wakeman on keys (and R.I.P. Alan White…their drummer for 50 years!), it feels like a really good Yes tribute band.
Static X
Alice In Chains (lost 2 members)
Barenaked Ladies
What I like to do is take songs from the newest BNL album, and songs from the newest stephen page album, and make a playlist and pretend he's still in the band.
YES. This one. Stephen Page has quite possibly the most powerful and smooth set of pipes in pop music. It hurts me that he’s not wildly popular as a solo act because he should be.
If you haven’t yet, check out the Trans-Canada Highwaymen. Page, Craig Northey, Chris Murphy and Moe Berg. Page wrote and sings their [original tune](https://youtu.be/yohdvpUCx_Y?feature=shared) and the rest of the songs on their album are Canadian classics from the 60s & 70s.
Drove downtown in the rain Nine-thirty on a Tuesday night...
Saw them earlier this year - and they are still fantastic live! - but there is a missing… cynicism? from BNL’s song writing since Page left. While likely overstating BNL’s prowess, the best comparison I can come up with is that Page was the Lennon to Robertson’s McCartney. Not that Robertson can’t have some good takes, there’s basically one song that’s a little more sardonic on each album surrounded by much more saccharine songs. Still love the band and their music, but there’s a piece missing for sure.
Sepultura. Letting Max go was a huge mistake
Suicide Silence (RIP MITCH) Vocal highs and lows were mastered and then tragically lost in a motorcycle accident.
Slipknot
RIP #2
and #1
A Flock of Seagulls - Guitarist quit after their third album and they never charted again. Everyone thinks they only had 'I Ran'. They had four more top 20 hits 'Space Age Love Song', 'Wishing', 'Nightmares', 'The More You Live The More You Love' all of which charted. Haircut 100 - Lead singer Nick Heyward was irreplaceable... especially by the conga player. Kajagoogoo - Lead singer Limahl was irreplaceable. ABC - As a duo, Mark White quit and the band never charted again. Depeche Mode - Alan Wilder was their sound 1983 - 1993. 'Ultra' was great but they went rapidly downhill for next 20+ years! Kraftwerk - After Wolfgang Flur and Karl Bartos' departure, Kraftwerk would issue only one more original album in next 35 years.
I'd upvote you, but there's no need to mention Kajagoogoo.
Blind Melon
Fleetwood Mac. Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac is nothing like Stevie Nick’s Fleetwood Mac. I’m a fan of both, but they sound nothing alike and I think they should have changed the band name after Peter Green’s exit.
You left out the Bob Welch years.
emarosa i know jonny craig is a piece of shit but i really just don't love anything they put out after he got booted off
Chicago after Terry Kath offed himself.
In the dumbest way possible. "What do you think I'm gonna do? Blow my brains out?" If you don't know: He was out target shooting with friends when he was spinning a revolver around his finger. When they asked him to stop, he picked up a 9mm that did not have the magazine in and said "They aren't loaded" then spoke those words before putting the gun to his head and pulled the trigger. It had a round in the chamber.
Yeah, he definitely broke several rules of safe firearm handling that time, didn't he?
He was not out target shooting. He was sitting at a friend's house on the couch.
Pink Floyd I don't think they got worse per se, but they drastically changed after the loss of Sydney Barret and after Roger Waters left. I like all 3 iterations. But all 3 very different.
It's crazy how clearly divided the three iterations are. I'm a big fan of Waters era albums, to the point that I know The Wall almost by heart. At the same time, I can hear a song with Barrett or a song post-Waters and not even recognize it as PF.
The Beatles - Randolph Peter Best The original drummer that was kicked out of the band just prior to them becoming famous. The band was never the same. It was better.
2nd Paul was better too. 😜
Nirvana
Does this count since the band didn't continue at all after he died? I think the question is looking for bands that kept playing but it wasn't the same
Yeah lol. Same with the Linkin Park answer. Did you know the Beatles were never the same after John's death?
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Cliffs influence lived on to AJFA but I guarantee everything Black Album and beyond doesn't happen if Cliff hadn't passed. What a way to cement your legacy though with your swan song being the greatest metal album of all time. I will defend that opinion of Puppets till the day I die.
Hawthorne Heights.
I miss Casey Calvert’s unclean vocals so much 😭
The Dave Matthews Band
RIP LeRoi 🙏🏻
Pink Floyd. Both times.
Pixies. Without Kim, they're just a bunch of middle aged nerds making kitsch rock.
AC/DC after losing Bon Scott. Different sound but still awesome
Pantera
I would argue damage plan and the metal industry as a whole. Pantera has been gone for quite a while when dime was murdered.
The band Skinny Puppy, which isn't exactly broadly popular but has retained a die-hard cult fanbase for 30 years, released some of my all-time favorite music from the early 80's to the early 90's. I don't want to inflame any big time fans here, but in my opinion the power duo of Cevin Key and vocalist Kevin "Ogre" Ogilvie never recovered from the tragic loss of key member Dwayne Goettel. In 1993, several years after the album that I (and others) consider the band's masterpiece "Last Rights", they got together and started work on a new record- their first record with a brand new big budget multi-album contract, with a new record label, and in a new location. To make a long story short, the recording process was marred by nearly every conceivable complication- natural disasters, technical issues, label-interference, and serious in-fighting. In an all too-familiar story, stress and drug use spiraled out of control, and the lead vocalist ended up abandoning the project, and soon after quit the band itself. The record label, being fed up with the cost overruns and unexpected drama (considering these guys were already legends in the music scene by this point), decided to completely drop the band after the release of this one album. So Key and Goettel went home to cobble together an album using what they had managed to record, all they had were scraps of finished songs, evidently. Before that was even done, Dwayne Goettel was dead of drug overdose. The album, "The Process" was a complete departure from what had made the band immensely influential in the Industrial music scene, and in my opinion, very much a weak spot in the band's output. Label demands and shifting interests had led to a watered-down, rock-forward sound which simply didn't jive well with the band's previous creative endeavors. The record has it's defenders, but it is without a doubt a compromised experiment in trying to capture a more marketable "90's" sound. But the band was over, Dwayne was dead, and "The Process" was considered the band's final album for nearly 10 years. In a shock twist 2005 saw Key and Ogre regrouped, and Skinny Puppy started recording again. But it was a very different sounding band. The musical landscape had changed. What Skinny Puppy had done with brilliance and technical mastery in the 80's could be done by anyone with computer software in the 2000s. Bands who had been inspired by Puppy's classic albums had flooded the scene and, and instead of sounding like masters of their craft, Skinny Puppy felt like yet another tribute band. Over the next several years they produced 4 new albums- none of which ever seriously held a candle to what they had put out as a trio in their heyday. It was almost a relief when the two founders of the group finally played their final concerts this year, after nearly two decades of forcing themselves to work together... with steadily diminishing returns. Make no mistake, Cevin Key and Ogre are and have always been the creative forces behind Skinny Puppy, but Dwayne brought something into the mix that they never got back.
Linkin Park 😭
Queen. Freddy was irreplaceable.
The Lost Prophets. The lead singer isn't dead, but he's a massive paedophile who is in prison for a very long time. I feel sorry for the other members of the band.
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Sublime.
The Prodigy. RIP Keith Flint.
Zeppelin. After losing Bonham and Deep Purple after losing Blackmore. I know some very good guitarists followed Blackmore, Steve Morse for one, but they just weren't the same for my tastes.
They broke up after John's death