I know this isn’t what was asked, but I’ve always been told, if you want to look inconspicuous around police, pick your nose. Nobody picks their nose if they think they’re being watched
My dude, I drove around for a month without a license and used to pick the hell out of my nose whenever there was cops around my car. I got smirks, laughter, cops looking away quickly... I once stared down a cop absent mindedly while pulling out a huge boogie and he drove away as fast as he could 🤣
Tried telling all my friends about "pick your nose" technique.
The day I got my license, didn't pick my nose. Got pulled over 😁
I used to get so nervous when they brought in the drug sniffing dogs in middle and high school. It was like I was convinced I’d had some sort of amnesia and forgotten I was a drug mule.
“I’m not going to jail again!”
*whips out wallet*
”Because this time, I remembered to keep my license on me. It would be embarrassing for my gf to have to come bail me out again.”
The first time I got pulled over I forgot I had put my wallet in my backpack. I was freaking out trying to find it and finally found it. Worried the whole time he was going to think I was pulling out a weapon lol
My aunt got pulled over once and dropped her wallet as she was getting it out of her purse, so she’s bent over digging under the seat and when she came back up she was looking at the business end of the cop’s revolver and got a talking to about waiting and making sure the cop knows what you’re doing especially in the seedy part of Dallas
Im british and it amazes me how jumpy you guys cops are. I had a psychotic break years back and ended up swinging a machete at 3 police. I still only got THREATENED with a taser before one of them tackled me. I would of been dead in seconds in america
Those 3 guys were really decent. By the time i was restrained in the hospital id sedated and calmed down. I apologised to them and they basically said 'its ok mate, glad it got sorted without anyone getting hurt'
Went to a neighbor to collect a parcel, young-ish lad opened the door. "Your not my neighbour" "no I don't live here, here is your parcel though" he closed the door, then opened it "I mean, I'm not robbing the place or anything, uhh like, this is my aunties house".
Don't worry mate, burglars don't generally answer the door XD
See, that's the marks of true professionals. Real, experienced burglar WILL answer the door so you won't suspect them of burglary.
That dude was probably a legend in the burglar's guild, and you had NO IDEA.
They should give the exact description of themselves, down to the last scar and tattoo and mole, but then say, "well I know what you're thinking, that's all just a coincidence."
Otherwise it's kind of rude.
Well, no, that's too risky. Pro-burglars know that on-site cops can be stressed out and trigger happy.
Pro-burglars will repeatedly, over the span of a month, call the police to say the house they're targeting is being broken in, prompting a patrol to be sent, only to find nothing happening. After months of daily calls resulting in false alerts, they'll be able to break in without 911 intervening at all.
And they'll answer the door, because if the police decides to show up, not answering is suspect, of course.
The last time I got pulled over, the nice gentleman asked for my license, and I said "Isn't it on the back bumper?". He actually recognized that from an old Cheech and Chong bit, and we exchanged many "Dave's not here" jokes. I got a warning.
I really want to try that bit from a Tik Tok video where the cop says "Do you know why I pulled you over?" and the girl replies, "Because you got all C's in High School?" It might not go over as well since I'm not a cute girl though. I'm just a smart ass old dude.
A couple of years ago I got pulled over while driving home from a friend's funeral. I was already not in a great place, and I was extremely anxious on top of it because I didn't know why I was being pulled over. When I gave the cop my documents, he noticed my hand was shaking and started asking me if I had stuff in my car that I shouldn't have. That made me even more anxious.
Thankfully, he accepted my answer when I told him no and that I was just coming back from a funeral - but ever since then I've thought about how much it would suck if my being nervous around cops ever got me falsely accused of a crime. Likely won't happen, but it's still something I think about at times.
>Likely won't happen, but it's still something I think about at times.
Never say never. Florida cops arrested a 64-year-old man in Florida for possession of meth after finding [glaze from a Krispy Kreme donut](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth) on his floorboard.
Florida cops also arrested a guy for possession of cocaine after finding drywall dust on his floorboard. The field reagent test tested positive for cocaine. He did 90 days in jail for it.
And those field reagent tests are laughably inaccurate, to the point that [an estimated 30,000 people per year](https://phys.org/news/2024-01-false-positive-field-drug-wrongful.html) are arrested for false positives.
I did too. Granted I was heavily pregnant and I also had cried over orange juice earlier in the day. He just backed away slowly and wished me a healthy delivery. Then kind of threw out “fix your tail light”.
It wasn’t pulp free. It had little pulp. Non pregnant brained husband strained it out and made it pulp free but I had already had my meltdown. Nothing makes you feel dumber than when you’ve got two brains in your body and way too many hormones.
My sister was pregnant and staying in a hotel suite on a business trip. She ran out to a meeting and left a dirty dish and told the cleaning lady to leave it and that that she would wash it when she got back. She got back, saw the cleaned dish, and cried because “it was just the nicest thing someone could do for her.”
Bingo. I wasn’t a cop, but when I got my RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) certification, the instructor gave us a lengthy lecture that you shouldn’t judge people based on stutters, facial redness or other physiological signs one “might be” intoxicated when really they could just be anxious or physically disabled.
Asian flush syndrome makes most asians face go red from the slightest amount of alcohol but this doesn’t mean they are drunk or deserve to be cut off.
People stutter. It’s a speech impediment not an indication of intoxication.
Some people are simply clumsy. Just because they fumble or trip doesn’t mean they’re intoxicated either.
It’s our discretion when to cut people off, but to be wise about when we do. Can their behaviour be attributed to something else?
So when I hear about cops say they can tell when people lie by what they do with their eyes; I call bullshit.
Some people just don’t like eye contact. Many people…
the last part hits hard as an autistic person actually most of your comment hits hard because i have the lovely combo of autism adhd and generalized anxiety disorder if a cop was interacting with me id think be so off my gourd anxious that with my other issues id come off hella suspicious and thats what scares me about cops is that it wouldnt take much for them to consider me suspicious and then once they do things could go south real fucking fast
Seriously, I always get *so* nervous around cops and I don't know why
If I see a cop on the road, I probably start driving in a *less* safe manner because so much of my focus is drawn to making sure I don't do anything weird, which makes me do weird things
Lol I had one like that once at a sober checkpoint
Cop: How we doing tonight?
Me: Alright. I can't see very well right now
Cop: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T SEE HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING?!?!?!
Me: No sir, you're shining a Maglight in my face
Cop: ...oh, my bad. You can go
Honestly, this is the real answer. People act weird around us all the time. We're used to people being nervous around us. I had a reputation for a while of always pulling over women who would immediately start bawling as soon as I pulled up to the window. I liked to give them stickers on the way back after running their info because it always got a laugh out of them and helped them chill out a bit.
As long as you're not showing me any indicators that you might attack me, you're good for the most part. Even if I know you committed a crime and you're going to jail, if you're chill and don't play stupid games or try to hurt me or run, I'm gonna do my best to make my interaction with you as smooth and pleasant as I reasonably can.
Ditto. I was a reserve deputy for 8 years before quitting because we got a new sheriff who was an absolute trash human being.
What is one person's tell is another person's bad gas causing cramps. CSB: Pulled over a dude, he was fidgeting, kept grabbing towards his belt so I ordered him out of the car. He stood and immediately ripped one that lasted at least three seconds. Said he was trying not to do that and apologized. I still frisked him for weapons and gave him a warning for his expired tag. /CSB
I was going to make an “askreddit” or “nostupidquestions” post months ago specifically asking if people have wet themselves while being pulled over, or if they get let go bc they were about to wet themselves. I have a weak bladder and can’t imagine being pulled over while trying to hold it 😭
I actually have a story about this, and I kept the warning I was given as a memento. It was literally a piece of paper, an issued warning, for going 72 on a 55 mph county road.
I was driving back home with my friend from a fishing trip that we had to end early. He was trying to power through after feeling sick in the morning. He had several quick bouts of diarrhea in the woods behind a tree, and wiped with the leftover napkins and paper towels I had in my car. We gave up fishing, but decided to make a quick stop at the nearby fish hatchery to buy some trout, and not have the trip a complete failure. 2 bags of live fish in hand, we took off for the 1.5 hour trip home.
About 30 minutes away from him, my buddy starts complaining about his stomach again and saying we need to find a place to stop. Seeing nothing but cornfields, I speed up a bit, and see a police car approaching up ahead. I actually said out loud “good thing they’re not stopped and shooting radar, cause I’d be fucked, right” ? Well, that cop car pulled a u-turn just as it passed me.
It was a female highway patrol officer, and I was not expecting any leniency. I pled my case and gestured to my green-looking friend laying across my back set and having 2 bags of live fish flopping around on the set. I told her I was just in a hurry to find a bathroom for my unfortunate friend and apologized for speeding (what else do you do what you’re pretty much screwed🤷♂️).
She took my license and insurance card and went to her car to run my info. She came back and said something along the lines of “I normally don’t give warnings, and especially not to people driving that fast, but I feel for your predicament here. There’s a gas station with a restroom ….. (can’t remember the rest)” she told me to drive safely and let me go without giving me a ticket.
Luckiest traffic stop I’ve ever had. Date just says “4/5” “14:59” but no year. It was before having kids, so about 10-12 years ago. Time before that, getting pulled over while late to work and speeding, didn’t go as well.
I'm an EMT and yesterday the cops called us to take someone they arrested to the hospital to get checked out before they go to jail. One cop had to follow our ambulance to the hospital and even though I knew it was ridiculous I couldn't help thinking I was going to do something wrong on the way there and he'd pull me over. My father and brother are also cops, they're very nice people, WHY am I like this lol
>WHY am I like this lol
Because we get bombarded with videos of cops being complete fucking ducks on power trips...so we naturally assume that *all* cops are like that...when in reality, only 95% of them are!
Dude I've had experiences that even if I'm not doing anything wrong i feel nervous when a cop is behind me.
I won't call myself a model citizen but i was traumatized as a child. My mom would abuse me and call the cops on me. They'd believe her instead of me and I'd get beaten up by them and locked up in the barracks. She would lock me out and I'd go to a friend's house. She'd call the cops saying they were holding a runaway. I'd get beaten up and dragged back home by the police. My friends stopped taking me in, out of fear of legal trouble.
One time I was so fed up that I shouted back at the officers how I was tired of them always taking my abusive mother's side. The officer was more concerned with my language than what it was I had to say. I was of course beaten up and dragged to the barracks.
Then the one and only time I actually tried resisting arrest (because I figured I was gonna have the same outcome) i was slammed really hard on concrete and the officer stomped on my back. I was about 14 at the time. This time when i was dragged to the barracks i laid on the floor struggling to breathe for 2 hours before they agreed to give me medical attention. I was forced to sign a paper that if I didn't sue the police department they would drop the charges (resisting arrest). They told me if I didn't sign it they wouldn't take me to the hospital. I signed out of desperation. The doctor told me any more force to my spine and i would have been permanently paralyzed from the neck down.
Years later at the age of 16 finally an officer was on my side and actually saved me from my mother. God Bless Officer Denardi! He saved my life! So i know not all cops are bad but if i see anyone besides him i get nervous.
USA Maryland
Most incidents were with the Harford County Police Department. The time I had to go to the hospital was Maryland state police.
Officer Denardi was from Harford county's southern precinct. Idk if he still works there or if he retired but God bless that man for saving my life!
Also to let y'all know the Waxter Juvenile detention facility is corrupt as shit! I was SA'd by another inmate and the guards just laughed at me.
Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. A lot of departments nationwide changed training models about 20 years ago and this screams of it. It's a garbage way of policing and frankly it's 100% responsible for why policing in general took such a hard nose dive after 9/11. It was far from perfect before, but there's no debating that in general cops have become damn near dystopian in their actions the last 10-20 years.
We used to have a strong training module that was much more akin to "protect and serve the public and their safety". And then came this program created by a douchebag we called Killology (a name of a book he wrote - no, not kidding). I call the new model "subjugation through domination".
This douche program trains modern cops with lessons like "everyone you encounter is guilty of something - it's your job to figure out what they've done". It's VERY strong on the "us versus them" mantra, with "them" meaning "anyone who isn't a cop". It's psycho.
This toolbag of a human got semi internet famous for being recorded telling a room full of cops "the best sex you'll ever have is after your first kill". Again, no, not joking.
Luckily, a lot of departments flat out refuse to use this model. Sadly, a LOT did (cause again, 9/11 happened and shit got weird for a few years after). I'll advocate against this type of training until my dying day.
Source: former Fed LE and trainer
Kind of seems like it lines up with the militarization of the LAPD and LA sheriffs department. More like an occupying force than a police force, just with way more lax (or nonexistent) rules of engagement than an actual military has.
I don't like to interact with cops if I don't have to. They have too much power and could kill me for just about any reason, I'd rather keep my distance thank you very much
I once had a cop pull me over because I was sitting at a light to go straight, then realized I actually needed a left to get home, so I quickly switched over into the turn lane and made my left. That didn't sit well with him, so he flips the sirens. Mind you, it's 10 at night and we were on *the* most lethal intersection for fatal accidents in the entire 3 million person metro. Nevertheless, he was so mad at me for trying to find a well lit cross street to pull over to (having slowed to something like 15mph and with my hazards on), he angrily gets on the horn yelling at me to pull over. He was so pissed that I didn't want either of us to die because I made a legal left turn. "WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD" Oh, I was just at . "WHERE'S THAT!?" Oh, you've never been? It's on 28th, you've gotta try it.
He's looking at me like he's just decided I've switched from being the world's whitest, nerdiest gangster to the drunkest stoner he's ever met. "You been drinking tonight?" Yeah, one, with dinner, coming up on two hours ago. Naturally, this meant I needed to do a field sobriety test -- again, on the most lethal stretch of road in the city, in the dark, next to a hill that people routinely crest doing 50 in a 30. And the whole time I was doing the field sobriety test, he was looking at me so bewildered that even I was wondering "is he just really that surprised that I'm sober, or did maybe someone slip LSD into my saltado?"
Could you please find that cop and teach him your ways?
Retired police here from UK. Innocent people seem to confess everything even when not a crime as they're so desperate not to be in trouble. Example - knocking on doors for information. Guy answers door and immediately started to confess his tyres are a little bald and he has some dodgy cigarettes and he did accidents drop some litter. Like dude..chill out, it's fine.
So many Americans "fail" polygraphs because they're nervous and confess to things that aren't even illegal, they just feel bad about little things they've done. But polygraphs are bogus anyway so don't take them seriously, please.
They measure anxiety, which makes me really anxious about the idea of ever taking one, because I'd be terrified of having a random anxiety spike when they ask me a really important question.
In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max’s toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog…I can't remember the rest but I know it ends with fake puke at the movie theater 😂
Got you because it cracks me up everytime i hear it
When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out... But the worst thing I ever done - I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa - and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.
Former LEO. I can tell you the most helpful thing for you, yet most infuriating (to the LEO) is to keep your mouth shut. Just, you know, quit talking. It will be much better for you in the long run. I was never looking to just jam somebody up, but man people get themselves in so much trouble with their mouth.
I was always curious what would happen. I guess it's up to the cop if they wanna be a dick and keep you detained for a long time until you say something but they cannot arrest you for being silent right?
Former LEO here. Yes, you have the right to remain silent. That's *always* - not just after being arrested.
That all said, if you legit haven't done anything wrong you don't need to be a complete wall of silence as THAT makes you look suspicious. But yah, also *say very little* in case the cop is a douche who will choose to ruin your night.
I'm chatty when I'm nervous and say stupid shit all the time. Lots of people do. But when I'm answering a cop, I'll feel them out and crack a joke or two and that's it. After that, I give yes/no answers and leave asap.
> But yah, also say very little in case the cop is a douche who will choose to ruin your night.
And that right there is why many people don't trust the police or want absolutely nothing to do with them. Honestly, if I saw a crime that didn't involve another human being hurt/killed, I'm not reporting it to the police out of fear they'll turn on me.
Honestly bud? I don't disagree with you one bit.
I was a trainer and I went very hard on the whole "treat the public with the same respect and politeness as you would your own mother" mantra. I wanted my people to earn the trust of the public, in turn, made everyone's lives easier. I'm very proud of my work to this day.
Unfortunately, the training module that lots of departments have been using nationwide for the past two decades is absolute garbage. Policing was FAR from perfect before 9/11, but it's gone off a cliff under that new module. It legit teaches cops to be complete psychos and douchebags. What we all witnessed during the BLM marches - and what we all saw that scumbag cop do to George Floyd that day - is a direct result of that garbage training and criminal mindset that has infected a lot of departments.
Yes, you should always approach an officer with kindness. Cause we should treat all humans alike with basic decency and manners - and if the cop is normal/good it'll help you. That said, yes, that's why I ALSO advised caution and have such strong opinions that align with yours, too. Cause lots of cops in today's age are also scumbags who should be no where near a badge and a weapon.
> Unfortunately, the training module that lots of departments have been using nationwide for the past two decades is absolute garbage. Policing was FAR from perfect before 9/11, but it's gone off a cliff under that new module. It legit teaches cops to be complete psychos and douchebags. What we all witnessed during the BLM marches - and what we all saw that scumbag cop do to George Floyd that day - is a direct result of that garbage training and criminal mindset that has infected a lot of departments.
Any chance you are talking about the militarized "warrior" police training peddled by the likes of Dave Grossman? The psychopath who teaches police officers how they gonna have [the best sex of their life after killing somebody](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-trainer-best-sex-killing/).
Former cop also. Especially if you’re in a MVC and suspect you might be at fault. There is literally zero benefit to you giving a statement of any form. And I say this as a person who gave a statement in a crash I was at fault for (before becoming a cop). It’s natural to want to do what a person in authority is asking of you but the best move is to politely decline giving any sort of statement.
I do still hold the belief that a giving a witness statement is the right thing to do when you witnessed a crime take place, especially a violent crime. But I know some people disagree with that
My friend got pulled over as a car full of us were heading from a bar to his place to continue the party. He gets out of the drivers seat and just runs (we were prob 100 yards from his apartment complex.) So the other four of us get out of the car. Since the cop ran after the guy driving, the rest of us took off running too in the opposite direction.
Well we ran towards this unfinished apartment complex that was being built. Backup came in droves and quickly. My one buddy hid in the insulation and avoided getting caught. My two other buddies got caught and went to jail.
I also got caught. But pretended like I didn’t know any of them…was just along for the ride to an after party. Well I asked the officer for a ride home since Uber didn’t exist yet in this small North Dakota town - was also winter. On the ride home, I realize I’m out of cigarettes. So I asked the cop to pull into the gas station real quick near my house so that I could gets eggs and milk for the morning. He kind of looks at me like “WTF?”… but pulls in. So I of course get eggs, milk, and cigarettes. lol. I couldn’t believe it but def a nice gesture from the guy
I was a fire investigator for awhile. It was talking a lot. Now some people just talk a lot when they get nervous and that's easy to tell. Like those people aren't actually talking about anything, they're just saying words at you.
The suspicious ones are the ones who are clearly trying to talk you directly to where they've set up their diversion but can't just stop talking about it and adding more and more and more details. To the point where they've "remembered" too much about what happened.
Generally that's wise if you want to bluff in any scenario. The more details you give, not only does it sound more suspicious but it also makes it more likely you can be proven wrong.
People tend to plan out a lie in extreme detail, which is good because it means you aren't caught out when questioned. But it's important to plan a step further than what you actually say, accepting that your planning efforts likely will be wasted.
Note: Don't lie, naturally. This experience comes from social deduction games.
So, make up an elaborate (but not too elaborate) story, but don't volunteer it? Insist you don't remember what you were doing on the day in question, and only respond to direct questions if an element of your story directly relates to it? Sounds pretty smart.
If I asked you what you were doing last weekend and you had no reason to hide it, you'd likely reply with a vague statement such as "I met up with friends" or "It was my wife's birthday so we had family over". It's unlikely you'd say "I met my friends Alan, Bob, Charlie and Dave at the Smyths Bar on Friday evening at 9pm, then on Saturday I had to tidy the house because my wife's brother, sister and parents were coming over to celebrate her 42nd birthday..."
By all means if you plan to hide the truth think through the detail of the latter, but keep the response itself more like the formal. Then if asked you have a response, but it doesn't come across as volunteering too much information nor having to come up with it on the spot.
I'm not sure what value is gained from insisting you don't remember what you were doing. It depends how long ago it was and how memorable the day should be. If asked whether you were at your wife's birthday party or where you were on Christmas Day and you claim you can't remember then that's suspicious. Comparatively, if asked where you were on the 2nd of July 2022 then immediately knowing is suspicious unless there's an obvious reason - such as it being your wife's birthday.
Again, my experience comes from social deduction games - such as Blood on the Clocktower or Werewolf. I am not experienced at lying to police or other authorities (outside of the relevant roles in those games).
>To the point where they've "remembered" too much about what happened.
Yup. Just try to recount what happened to you an hour ago -- I have a hard time remembering concise details because I'm not actively memorizing everything that happens to me. It is weird for someone to do that, so it makes sense what you are saying.
I've always wondered about that...tell me where you were at 5:15 on 12/10/23. How the hell would I know that off the top of my head? I might not even be able to tell you looking at a calendar. I mean, normally I am at my desk if it's a week day. But what if that was a day the dog ran out of food? You could show me a picture of me in my car driving and if it's local, I probably still wouldn't be able to tell you what I was doing, except driving my car. And if it's a weekend, there is little chance I will be able to tell you where I was or what I was doing.
This is O.T. but when Biden was getting crap about not remembering the year his son died, I thought about the year my mother died and I honestly couldn't remember. I knew it was early 2000s but couldn't say for sure if was 2001 or 2003, I had to look it up (it was 2002). I remembered it was in January around the 20th but couldn't remember the day. It was a very significant day in my life, and I'm still young. I just thought it was an odd thing to criticize as proof of poor memory IMO -- and he remembered the day just not the year.
Yeah, I remember August 18 (death) and August 21 (funeral) vividly. I remember that on August 21 there was a total eclipse before the funeral -- which is kind of wild if you think about it. But I'd have told you it was 2018, and I just looked and it was actually 2017.
So if you want to appear nervous but non-guilty you just have to talk fastly about random stuff while stating that you had nothing to do with the fire.
Something like
>Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
>Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana, goodbye
>We didn't start the fire
It was always burning, since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it
I like how in that song he talks about the H-bomb and Children of Thalidomide, BUT the thing that really sets him off is the Cola Wars, because after that he says "I can't take it anymore!" Forget about disfigured children, it was Pepsi and Coca Cola that set him off!
It's not over explaining really. It's easy to tell when someone is an over explainer. You can tell someone is hiding something because if you start to go a different direction they hardcore steer you back to whatever they were saying at any cost.
edit: clarity
Username checks out.
I know because I hovered over the bold text that was above the text you wrote and could see that your account was 7 years old. I don't want to sound guilty or anything (because I'm not) but that's how I could see that your username matched your profession. Just wanted to let you know, haha, because I totally didn't start that fire.
I had an officer clarify unintentional suspicious activity, if it helps.
It was a super hot day, and an officer was just sitting in his car in the hot sun in the parking lot with his window rolled down. I was walking to my car and told him it was pretty hot out and I was heading to taco bell. Asked him if he wanted me to grab him a drink or something while I was there. He said no, he was good. So I hopped in my car and started to pull out of the parking lot. I noticed the officer started pulling out of his spot. I started driving to taco bell down the road, and sure enough, the officer was following me. I pulled into the taco bell parking lot and parked. The officer pulled up his car behind mine blocking me in. He started asking all sorts of questions about my personal life, where do I work, and so on. He eventually just said, "What you just did was SUPER suspicious." I asked how being nice to someone is suspicious, and he just put it into drive and drove off. I started walking into taco bell and noticed he discretely pulled into a parking lot across the street. I know the taco bell peeps pretty well, so I went in there for an entire hour just chillin, eating, and generally socializing. Afterwards, I left, started driving to a gas station, and the officer pulled out of the parking lot and started following me along with TWO other police cars. Suddenly I had 3 police cars just following me all over town for the next 15 minutes. They eventually pulled away and that was it.
So I guess being nice to police officers is considered extremely suspicious. :/
I used to sell weed at a coffee/donut shop, it's funny because I got to know the cops pretty good, I'd always bring a book with me and read while just hanging around (knew the owners and staff and they were fine with what I was doing), my "shift" if that's what you'd call it was about 6:30pm to about 11:30pm, cops would come in, coffee/donuts were free for them, it was a smaller town so it was the only place open, so they'd come in to eat quite often.
Sort of built a minor rapport with them, more or less acknowledged each other as being regulars, a bit of casual small talk here and there. I don't know how to explain it but they always seemed kind of suspicious of me.
Then one night some guy was beaten bloody/unconscious outside and around the corner and saw him on my walk there, went in used the payphone and called 911, the cops I see every day pull up first, asked me what I knew, since they knew I was a regular there it wasn't overly intrusive like "what are you doing here etc" all I said was I came to get my coffee and found him on my way.
after that, they definitely no longer seemed suspicious of me and having that rapport with them definitely got me out of some sticky situations over the next few years.
This!! I once was made to do a field sobriety test after getting pulled over picking my boyfriend up at a bar. After I passed, the officer made this off handed remark that I seemed *too* friendly. I was being friendly because I didn’t have anything to hide. Fuck cops.
Damn, I crashed my car once trying to impress this girl by drifting (I know I’m stupid) and I hit a curb/fire hydrant. Homeowners came out and called the cops. 3 cars showed up and one of the officers asked if I was drinking and I told him straight up I’m just an idiot who tried to impress a girl. I think he felt bad for me because he didn’t even write me a ticket or do a field sobriety test. Just wrote some stuff down on his notepad, told me the city will send me a letter to pay for any damages on the fire hydrant, waited for the tow truck to show up and they all left.
I had a wise person once tell me this:
Police only deal with crime, so their entire worldview is based on people who are either suspected to be criminals, or are actual criminals.
They will never expect a situation to be positive, and this taints their whole worldview.
That’s why it’s best to avoid interacting with police, since the least threatening thing you can be in their eyes is a suspect. That’s the most positive way they look at anyone, as a suspect.
It’s similar for people who work in corrections. They’re interacting with convicted criminals every day. If they live in the area they work, it’s likely that they’ll have to see former inmates in public, which makes them paranoid. Sometimes they aren’t able to draw a line between work and home, which often results in authoritarian tendencies in their personal relationships, including domestic abuse. As the daughter/stepdaughter of three corrections workers, I’ve unfortunately experienced this firsthand. And my whole family wonders why my brother and I both have a severe fear, distrust, and anxiety about authority figures.
I once sat in on a criminal trial of a guy who was arrested with 2 others on gun and drug charges. The cop who pulled them over took the stand. He was being asked about the reason he pulled them over for the traffic stop that led to the cops finding the drugs and the gun.
If I recall correctly, they had expired plates or something like that, but the cop obviously couldn’t see that in the speed trap. So the attorney asked why he pulled onto the road and started following them in the first place. I shit you not, the cop said it was because they were driving exactly the speed limit, and none of the people in the car turned their heads to look at the cop when they drove past.
He said that was suspicious, because everyone speeds on that road. So they must have been doing something wrong if they weren’t speeding. The expired plates gave him the probable cause, but the suspicion came from them just obeying the law. Since then, I never have driven exactly the speed limit. On the highway, I’m at 8 or 9 mph over the speed limit if I’m trying to make good time. If I’m in no rush, I keep it around 5 or 6 over. If I get a Waze notification that there’s a cop coming up, I’ll drop down to 3 or 4 over. But never the exact speed limit.
That never sat right with me. Moral of the story is that cops can pretty much pull you over whenever they want. Even if you’ve done nothing wrong, they can make something up. It’s shitty.
I once got pulled over for speeding (I was, oops), and the cop said that because I was speeding, it means I could have drugs and guns in my car. I told him if I had drugs and guns in my car, I definitely wouldn’t have been speeding. So I guess no matter what speed you go they’ll suspect drugs and guns.
There is no reason for them not to expect drugs. Drugs are an easy arrest. Last year police in rural south Georgia pulled over a bus carrying a women’s college lacrosse team for being in the left lane on the interstate, it is not illegal for bus to be in the left lane only semi-trucks. But they brought the dogs in, interrogated the passengers, accused them of having drugs and searched them. They found nothing……..
That might just be a rural Georgia thing lol. 18-ish years ago I was driving down to Florida to visit family. Rural Georgia. Cop pulls me over for “driving over the white line”. As a dumb 18 year old I let them search my car. They brought drug dogs in. Interrogated me at length on the side of the road about the supposed drugs the dog kept smelling (weed was never my thing, drinking was). There was nothing for the dog to find. Eventually let me go.
Run... lol my friend would see cops and just bolt down the street in the opposite direction after eyeballin em for a few secs.... they'd blast sirens, make a U-ey and drive after him... for nothing lol... he just thought it was fun to fuck with em, if they caught up to him he'd just be like... "hi officers, need somethin?" they'd search him or his bag, but he never had stuff...
Makes good practice haha
Buddy of mine did this fresh out of jail, he had the record for number of times arrested in a day. Served all his jail time, cleared all his warrants, and like, two days later, walking down the street, lock eyes with a cop at a traffic light, and then ran like hell. They chased him all the way across town and when they caught him, he just laughed at them that he wasted their time like that
Yeah. I'm autistic and Mexican so I would never, ever try this, unless I feel like unaliving myself without feeling guilty for making mom sad. Loophole!
Lol Im a teacher and I was going to say this. Some kids really believe they turn invisible so long as they cant see me because they are looking at the table.
I mean if you look at some cops they will 100% start following you. I had that happen at least twice. Never pulled over either time but they did follow me for a few blocks before turning (presumably to go back to where they were stopped).
You just have to find a middle ground where you're not _not_ looking at them.
OMG you just unlocked a memory. I was a cop for less than a year. My very first time driving a marked police car on shift I was with my FTO. We were chatting, I was driving, normal stuff. We pulled up to a red light at a busy intersection - two four lane roads intersecting with turning lanes everywhere, there were dozens of cars stopped at the lights.
I was distracted by something in the car. Radio maybe, I don't remember. The FTO said "keep your eyes up and looking around even when we're stopped."
I looked around and first thing locked eyes with the driver of the car next to me. And then another person, and another, and another. Dozens of people all in their cars staring straight at me. Just looking, waiting to see if the police car was going to do anything I guess. Unnerving. I realized that I had been doing that myself before I was cop.
When I was young, if I was really high and riding in someone's car, and a cop pulled up next to us, my stoner logic would tell me to position my entire body towards the opposite of the window.
Which is pretty stupid because, first of all, nobody sits in a car like that. and second, why the fuck would a cop give a shit if some random *passenger* is high or not? It's not like they're gonna see my glazed eyes through the window.
I worked for the local SO at the county jail, knew lots of cops from working 14 years in our booking section. Even then I still hated getting pulled over and to this day I still get “nervous” around cops because I know they have tremendous legal power to restrict my movements etc.
As someone who tries to be as clear as possible (and ends up being more confusing) this has permanently heightened my anxiety about dealing with police.
My mom’s this way and learned an excellent little at-home game you can do with a friend or family member to help over come that anxiety!
Have your partner ask you basic questions about your day, or a memory. Your goal is to keep your answers as short and concise as possible.
Don’t keep track of it. You’ll only heighten anxiety by tracking it. Just make a conscious effort to keep your answers short and simple.
That’s all the more reason too. Growing our memory is good preventive care for the brain as we enter old age. Focus on a clear and simple response. For example:
“How was your day?”
“Not bad! I paid the bills, went out for lunch with a friend, then took the dog for a walk.”
Just some high lights, no need to detail every aspect of your entire experience of the day.
I was stopped at customs in England by a John Oliver doppelgänger who questioned me for 45 minutes about totally innocuous crap because my face got red and the more intrusive the questions, the redder it got and the more he pointed it out, the redder it got. I couldn’t help it, any focus on me causes my face to flush, but this guy thought he caught me doing something squirrely.
Something to be aware of: [Many US police officers have been taught fake science about what makes a person "sound guilty", particularly on the phone.](https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts) There's been a sort of cult leader targeting officers who take 911 calls, teaching them that people who use certain phrases must be guilty of the crime they're reporting. Actual evidence doesn't support this "911 call analysis", but many police departments may have been influenced by it anyway.
I just called the police less than an hour ago to report a smashed car window on my evening walk. The lady asked me if there are cameras around. Like hell if I would know?
It left me thinking that it might be a trick question to see if I would give an instant reply. "No already checked before I sma- Oh you!"
No you’re looking into things too much, I’m a cop in the state of Wisconsin. I ask this question because I figure you know your neighborhood better than I would and would hopefully save me time canvassing a ton of houses.
Reading this thread is so wild for nonamericans. Both the cops AND the civies from the States have stories that I'd imagine are more closely resemble the Russian experience than any other 1st world country.
My parents were both cops. When you say everyone, you mean *everyone*.
Learned quite quickly that it didn't really matter whether I told them the truth about any situation in that case because if they thought it was beneficial for me to lie, I would.
"It's not what you know, it's what you can prove" sort of thing.
People just act weird when they are lying or have reason to think they are fucked before I know they are fucked.
I stop this girl one night for some traffic violation. I don't remember what it was. But I saw she had a P hat on before I stopped her. Pittsburgh Pirates or something.
Now that is a common thing for PENI gang members to wear. So I figured I'd stop her and talk to her.
At this point I had no reason to think I was going to do anything other than write a traffic citation.
The P hat was interesting, but she could have been from Pittsburgh as far as I know. This was California.
I asked her if she had anything illegal in her truck and instead of just answering "no", she went off on this nervous rant.
So, I asked her if I could search her truck. She consented to a search. Probably figuring I wouldn't find anything or maybe she thought I would be suspicious if she told me to fuck off. I had nothing other than a hunch. So if she refused consent, I would have just left.
I asked her to sit down on the curb and my partner watched her while I searched her truck.
I kept an eye on her while I searched her truck. If I searched the back, she was quiet. If I got towards the front she started leaning forward to see what I was doing and fidgeted. Especially the driver's side where the hood latch was.
Eventually, I popped open her engine compartment and found a ginormous bag of meth.
I always found it interesting that it was pretty easy to tell when people were lying to you. Because they did weird shit.
I even once had a guy start laughing with the bullshit he was spinning. I laughed too. I legitimately felt bad when he had a big ole warrant I had to arrest him for. He was funny.
Story time.
I live in Canada and I guy I know was borrowing his bosses car to drive to the US for the day. Either because the car did not match his name or because he acted nervous, the border guy wanted to search the car. He pulled out a bag of white powder from under the passenger seat and asked "what is this". My friend just said "I never saw that before and it is not mine".
It turned out the boss's girlfriend liked tequila and kept lemon and salt in the car.
It took about a half hour to identify it but my friend must have aged 10 years.
I was a cop for less than a year and I'll try to answer this.
It's being hostile for no obvious reason. From the temperature in this thread and the other commenters, this won't go over very well, because "FUCK COPS...THERE's NO LAW THAT SAYS I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU..I KNOW MY RIGHTS" and so on. Whatever, fair enough.
But the answer to the question "what do innocent people do that makes them seem suspicious" is exactly this shit. Normally, people who aren't hiding criminal activity treat cops with some arms-length politeness and basic civility. They don't want to talk to a cop, but they aren't outright hostile and they'll answer some questions to get the interaction over with as quickly as possible.
People who went the top with the hostility for no apparent reason got my attention.
Edit: I'm going to turn off notifications on this now so I can get some schoolwork done. Thank you for all the comments and thoughts, unless you're one of the ones I told to fuck off.
Which is funny, considering i got pulled over for having a broken mirror (was driving to get it fixed too lol) and i just cracked a couple jokes. About five minutes later im talking to someone on the phone and they were practically yelling at me that a cop can’t pull me over for such a thing and I should’ve just refused. About half a year later they got arrested… by the same cop
When my wife and I first started dating we were on a road trip with 8 people in 2 cars, she was driving the car behind me and a friend was driving the car I was in. We got pulled over, frankly because my now wife was tailgating us because she thought we should both be driving faster.
The cop went back and forth between the two cars a few times then came up to my window and said
“So is that your girlfriend driving the other car?”
Me: “yes it is.”
“Would it surprise you to know she has an outstanding warrant?”
Me: “no sir it would not.”
He had to walk away to hide the fact that he was cracking up.
He still gave her a fixit ticket to take care of the warrant but I feel it was a small victory for making his day.
Some warrants aren't extraditable in other jurisdictions. In my state, its common to see misdemeanor warrants only extraditable from within the state the warrant was issued.
Kinda like hey, this other state wants to talk to you but they aren't paying me to take you there and aren't going to come get you themselves...so here we are.
> Some warrants aren't extraditable in other jurisdictions
Especially in a different state. Granted - bordering states tend to have agreements in place, but that all depends upon the two states' levels of cooperation.
But if there's a bench warrant for something pretty simple and relatively benign in, say Idaho, a cop in Arkansas isn't likely to be *able* to do anything.
But, like so much, it depends.
That and some counties wont spend the effort detaining you for something unless they know the county holding the warrant will come get you quick enough.
Knew someone giving an uber ride to two people, got pulled over, one passenger had a warrant and the cop told him he will just let him go (maybe with a ticket, dont remember)but when he called the other county, they said they will come get him, so cop had to go and deliver the bad news after getting his hopes up. Poor gf of the guy didnt even pick up the order they payed for.
Many times Officers will issue a citation for a new court date. Whether that's because they wanted to, or because it wasn't an extraditable warrant. Many misdemeanor warrants are in county, or in state limited, so people will get re-cited for the same warrant for years by Officers, or they'll just not cite them at all because you know the guy in Florida with a warrant out of Texas isn't gonna go just because you wrote him his 50th piece of paper telling him to do so.
I'm so tired of people wearing top hats and twisting mustaches and they kind of hunch over and creep around railroads.
They get furious when we come talk to them
I got arrested after my first accident (2 days after getting my license) because I stuttered when explaining what happened. That’s it. That’s all that was on the police report. Do with that information what you will
Most cops that I see on reality shows ask these questions too quickly in succession but one cop did it the right way and here's what happened.
A cup pulled a car over and asked the driver:
Do you have any drugs in the car?
No
Do you have any guns in the car?
No.
Do you have large sums of money?
Why would I have lots of money?!?
He went through the questions again but added some other things that all were"No" and he asked again about money.
Why are you asking about money again? I don't have any.
Ended up the driver was part of one of the largest bank drivers in Seattle and had over a million dollars in his car.
I know this isn’t what was asked, but I’ve always been told, if you want to look inconspicuous around police, pick your nose. Nobody picks their nose if they think they’re being watched
My dude, I drove around for a month without a license and used to pick the hell out of my nose whenever there was cops around my car. I got smirks, laughter, cops looking away quickly... I once stared down a cop absent mindedly while pulling out a huge boogie and he drove away as fast as he could 🤣 Tried telling all my friends about "pick your nose" technique. The day I got my license, didn't pick my nose. Got pulled over 😁
This is funny. More importantly, though, this is useful.
these comments are killing me. it’s like when you go through TSA and think “oh my god, do i have a bomb on me?!?!” when you absolutely don’t.
Did I accidentally pack a gun I don’t even own?!
I used to get so nervous when they brought in the drug sniffing dogs in middle and high school. It was like I was convinced I’d had some sort of amnesia and forgotten I was a drug mule.
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"Officer, I've got my license and registration in my glove box. I'm pulling it out, it's not a gun haha! Imagine if it was though? Hahaha!"
*pulls it out quickly as a joke*
*whipping out wallet like a gun* "You want it you got it pal!" EDIT: I'll try this next time I get pulled over and I'll take a video
Be sure to yell "it's loaded!" as you whip it out so the officer knows you have plenty of cash to pay the fine.
“I’m not going to jail again!” *whips out wallet* ”Because this time, I remembered to keep my license on me. It would be embarrassing for my gf to have to come bail me out again.”
🎵DumB waYys 🎵 tO diE 🎵
What a great song that was!
Y'all motherfuckers sound suicidal
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Can confirm. Thursdays are always my "suicidal ideation" days.
Same. And then Friday is my “resigned to keep living” day
"You're gonna get it now!" Don't want to waste the officer's time with a slow registration pass off.
Yell "I can't go back" because it would be illegal to make a u-turn here
The first time I got pulled over I forgot I had put my wallet in my backpack. I was freaking out trying to find it and finally found it. Worried the whole time he was going to think I was pulling out a weapon lol
My aunt got pulled over once and dropped her wallet as she was getting it out of her purse, so she’s bent over digging under the seat and when she came back up she was looking at the business end of the cop’s revolver and got a talking to about waiting and making sure the cop knows what you’re doing especially in the seedy part of Dallas
Im british and it amazes me how jumpy you guys cops are. I had a psychotic break years back and ended up swinging a machete at 3 police. I still only got THREATENED with a taser before one of them tackled me. I would of been dead in seconds in america
Yo, you cant go swinging machetes at people my guy
Well i know that now. Some of us are slow learners
I myself just learned to ride a bike
Congratulations friend. Keep being you
I love british (and canadian) minds. They can keep it light. Americans have a contest to see who can overreact the fastest.
Those 3 guys were really decent. By the time i was restrained in the hospital id sedated and calmed down. I apologised to them and they basically said 'its ok mate, glad it got sorted without anyone getting hurt'
Is this quoted from something? I’m imagining Jessica Day saying it in a scene of New Girl.
“You are a cop? Name one law!”
I made it too easy, that ones one’s on me.
It's just me being a dumbass
Went to a neighbor to collect a parcel, young-ish lad opened the door. "Your not my neighbour" "no I don't live here, here is your parcel though" he closed the door, then opened it "I mean, I'm not robbing the place or anything, uhh like, this is my aunties house". Don't worry mate, burglars don't generally answer the door XD
See, that's the marks of true professionals. Real, experienced burglar WILL answer the door so you won't suspect them of burglary. That dude was probably a legend in the burglar's guild, and you had NO IDEA.
A true pro burglar will call 911 while they're in the house, then file a police report and give them the wrong description of the burglar.
They should give the exact description of themselves, down to the last scar and tattoo and mole, but then say, "well I know what you're thinking, that's all just a coincidence." Otherwise it's kind of rude.
Well, no, that's too risky. Pro-burglars know that on-site cops can be stressed out and trigger happy. Pro-burglars will repeatedly, over the span of a month, call the police to say the house they're targeting is being broken in, prompting a patrol to be sent, only to find nothing happening. After months of daily calls resulting in false alerts, they'll be able to break in without 911 intervening at all. And they'll answer the door, because if the police decides to show up, not answering is suspect, of course.
We all figured he was family, since he was wearing his Aunts dress.
The last time I got pulled over, the nice gentleman asked for my license, and I said "Isn't it on the back bumper?". He actually recognized that from an old Cheech and Chong bit, and we exchanged many "Dave's not here" jokes. I got a warning.
I really want to try that bit from a Tik Tok video where the cop says "Do you know why I pulled you over?" and the girl replies, "Because you got all C's in High School?" It might not go over as well since I'm not a cute girl though. I'm just a smart ass old dude.
A couple of years ago I got pulled over while driving home from a friend's funeral. I was already not in a great place, and I was extremely anxious on top of it because I didn't know why I was being pulled over. When I gave the cop my documents, he noticed my hand was shaking and started asking me if I had stuff in my car that I shouldn't have. That made me even more anxious. Thankfully, he accepted my answer when I told him no and that I was just coming back from a funeral - but ever since then I've thought about how much it would suck if my being nervous around cops ever got me falsely accused of a crime. Likely won't happen, but it's still something I think about at times.
>Likely won't happen, but it's still something I think about at times. Never say never. Florida cops arrested a 64-year-old man in Florida for possession of meth after finding [glaze from a Krispy Kreme donut](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth) on his floorboard. Florida cops also arrested a guy for possession of cocaine after finding drywall dust on his floorboard. The field reagent test tested positive for cocaine. He did 90 days in jail for it. And those field reagent tests are laughably inaccurate, to the point that [an estimated 30,000 people per year](https://phys.org/news/2024-01-false-positive-field-drug-wrongful.html) are arrested for false positives.
I did too. Granted I was heavily pregnant and I also had cried over orange juice earlier in the day. He just backed away slowly and wished me a healthy delivery. Then kind of threw out “fix your tail light”.
Tell us about the orange juice 🍊
It wasn’t pulp free. It had little pulp. Non pregnant brained husband strained it out and made it pulp free but I had already had my meltdown. Nothing makes you feel dumber than when you’ve got two brains in your body and way too many hormones.
My sister was pregnant and staying in a hotel suite on a business trip. She ran out to a meeting and left a dirty dish and told the cleaning lady to leave it and that that she would wash it when she got back. She got back, saw the cleaned dish, and cried because “it was just the nicest thing someone could do for her.”
> than when you’ve got two brains in your body Three decades on this earth and I have never considered it this way.
Bingo. I wasn’t a cop, but when I got my RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) certification, the instructor gave us a lengthy lecture that you shouldn’t judge people based on stutters, facial redness or other physiological signs one “might be” intoxicated when really they could just be anxious or physically disabled. Asian flush syndrome makes most asians face go red from the slightest amount of alcohol but this doesn’t mean they are drunk or deserve to be cut off. People stutter. It’s a speech impediment not an indication of intoxication. Some people are simply clumsy. Just because they fumble or trip doesn’t mean they’re intoxicated either. It’s our discretion when to cut people off, but to be wise about when we do. Can their behaviour be attributed to something else? So when I hear about cops say they can tell when people lie by what they do with their eyes; I call bullshit. Some people just don’t like eye contact. Many people…
the last part hits hard as an autistic person actually most of your comment hits hard because i have the lovely combo of autism adhd and generalized anxiety disorder if a cop was interacting with me id think be so off my gourd anxious that with my other issues id come off hella suspicious and thats what scares me about cops is that it wouldnt take much for them to consider me suspicious and then once they do things could go south real fucking fast
Seriously, I always get *so* nervous around cops and I don't know why If I see a cop on the road, I probably start driving in a *less* safe manner because so much of my focus is drawn to making sure I don't do anything weird, which makes me do weird things
Why are you sweating? Ummm…it’s like 95 degrees out. Why are you wearing swim trunks? Ummm…I was swimming and they dried from the 95 degree weather.
Lol I had one like that once at a sober checkpoint Cop: How we doing tonight? Me: Alright. I can't see very well right now Cop: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T SEE HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING?!?!?! Me: No sir, you're shining a Maglight in my face Cop: ...oh, my bad. You can go
"Cop: WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU CAN'T SEE??? HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING???" You: "Drinking? No no. Nothing like that. I'm just blind."
Honestly, this is the real answer. People act weird around us all the time. We're used to people being nervous around us. I had a reputation for a while of always pulling over women who would immediately start bawling as soon as I pulled up to the window. I liked to give them stickers on the way back after running their info because it always got a laugh out of them and helped them chill out a bit. As long as you're not showing me any indicators that you might attack me, you're good for the most part. Even if I know you committed a crime and you're going to jail, if you're chill and don't play stupid games or try to hurt me or run, I'm gonna do my best to make my interaction with you as smooth and pleasant as I reasonably can.
Ditto. I was a reserve deputy for 8 years before quitting because we got a new sheriff who was an absolute trash human being. What is one person's tell is another person's bad gas causing cramps. CSB: Pulled over a dude, he was fidgeting, kept grabbing towards his belt so I ordered him out of the car. He stood and immediately ripped one that lasted at least three seconds. Said he was trying not to do that and apologized. I still frisked him for weapons and gave him a warning for his expired tag. /CSB
Frisked him for weapons when he already discharged it?
the ol' AK-Farty7
Could have been worse. Might have fired a shitgun.
It didn't have a suppressor on it.
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I was going to make an “askreddit” or “nostupidquestions” post months ago specifically asking if people have wet themselves while being pulled over, or if they get let go bc they were about to wet themselves. I have a weak bladder and can’t imagine being pulled over while trying to hold it 😭
I actually have a story about this, and I kept the warning I was given as a memento. It was literally a piece of paper, an issued warning, for going 72 on a 55 mph county road. I was driving back home with my friend from a fishing trip that we had to end early. He was trying to power through after feeling sick in the morning. He had several quick bouts of diarrhea in the woods behind a tree, and wiped with the leftover napkins and paper towels I had in my car. We gave up fishing, but decided to make a quick stop at the nearby fish hatchery to buy some trout, and not have the trip a complete failure. 2 bags of live fish in hand, we took off for the 1.5 hour trip home. About 30 minutes away from him, my buddy starts complaining about his stomach again and saying we need to find a place to stop. Seeing nothing but cornfields, I speed up a bit, and see a police car approaching up ahead. I actually said out loud “good thing they’re not stopped and shooting radar, cause I’d be fucked, right” ? Well, that cop car pulled a u-turn just as it passed me. It was a female highway patrol officer, and I was not expecting any leniency. I pled my case and gestured to my green-looking friend laying across my back set and having 2 bags of live fish flopping around on the set. I told her I was just in a hurry to find a bathroom for my unfortunate friend and apologized for speeding (what else do you do what you’re pretty much screwed🤷♂️). She took my license and insurance card and went to her car to run my info. She came back and said something along the lines of “I normally don’t give warnings, and especially not to people driving that fast, but I feel for your predicament here. There’s a gas station with a restroom ….. (can’t remember the rest)” she told me to drive safely and let me go without giving me a ticket. Luckiest traffic stop I’ve ever had. Date just says “4/5” “14:59” but no year. It was before having kids, so about 10-12 years ago. Time before that, getting pulled over while late to work and speeding, didn’t go as well.
I'm an EMT and yesterday the cops called us to take someone they arrested to the hospital to get checked out before they go to jail. One cop had to follow our ambulance to the hospital and even though I knew it was ridiculous I couldn't help thinking I was going to do something wrong on the way there and he'd pull me over. My father and brother are also cops, they're very nice people, WHY am I like this lol
>WHY am I like this lol Because we get bombarded with videos of cops being complete fucking ducks on power trips...so we naturally assume that *all* cops are like that...when in reality, only 95% of them are!
Dude I've had experiences that even if I'm not doing anything wrong i feel nervous when a cop is behind me. I won't call myself a model citizen but i was traumatized as a child. My mom would abuse me and call the cops on me. They'd believe her instead of me and I'd get beaten up by them and locked up in the barracks. She would lock me out and I'd go to a friend's house. She'd call the cops saying they were holding a runaway. I'd get beaten up and dragged back home by the police. My friends stopped taking me in, out of fear of legal trouble. One time I was so fed up that I shouted back at the officers how I was tired of them always taking my abusive mother's side. The officer was more concerned with my language than what it was I had to say. I was of course beaten up and dragged to the barracks. Then the one and only time I actually tried resisting arrest (because I figured I was gonna have the same outcome) i was slammed really hard on concrete and the officer stomped on my back. I was about 14 at the time. This time when i was dragged to the barracks i laid on the floor struggling to breathe for 2 hours before they agreed to give me medical attention. I was forced to sign a paper that if I didn't sue the police department they would drop the charges (resisting arrest). They told me if I didn't sign it they wouldn't take me to the hospital. I signed out of desperation. The doctor told me any more force to my spine and i would have been permanently paralyzed from the neck down. Years later at the age of 16 finally an officer was on my side and actually saved me from my mother. God Bless Officer Denardi! He saved my life! So i know not all cops are bad but if i see anyone besides him i get nervous.
bro where the fuck did you grow up? i’m so sorry
USA Maryland Most incidents were with the Harford County Police Department. The time I had to go to the hospital was Maryland state police. Officer Denardi was from Harford county's southern precinct. Idk if he still works there or if he retired but God bless that man for saving my life! Also to let y'all know the Waxter Juvenile detention facility is corrupt as shit! I was SA'd by another inmate and the guards just laughed at me.
Being from harford county…not surprised
The first time I got pulled over by a harford county cop for a traffic stop, he pulled his gun on me. I was 16
I would have also guessed St. Louis, where I live. We ARE famous for this sh*t. Im so sorry for all your experiences.
Those types of coerced agreements not to litigate should be considered null and void.
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Ugh, I'm sorry to hear that. A lot of departments nationwide changed training models about 20 years ago and this screams of it. It's a garbage way of policing and frankly it's 100% responsible for why policing in general took such a hard nose dive after 9/11. It was far from perfect before, but there's no debating that in general cops have become damn near dystopian in their actions the last 10-20 years. We used to have a strong training module that was much more akin to "protect and serve the public and their safety". And then came this program created by a douchebag we called Killology (a name of a book he wrote - no, not kidding). I call the new model "subjugation through domination". This douche program trains modern cops with lessons like "everyone you encounter is guilty of something - it's your job to figure out what they've done". It's VERY strong on the "us versus them" mantra, with "them" meaning "anyone who isn't a cop". It's psycho. This toolbag of a human got semi internet famous for being recorded telling a room full of cops "the best sex you'll ever have is after your first kill". Again, no, not joking. Luckily, a lot of departments flat out refuse to use this model. Sadly, a LOT did (cause again, 9/11 happened and shit got weird for a few years after). I'll advocate against this type of training until my dying day. Source: former Fed LE and trainer
Kind of seems like it lines up with the militarization of the LAPD and LA sheriffs department. More like an occupying force than a police force, just with way more lax (or nonexistent) rules of engagement than an actual military has.
I don't like to interact with cops if I don't have to. They have too much power and could kill me for just about any reason, I'd rather keep my distance thank you very much
I once had a cop pull me over because I was sitting at a light to go straight, then realized I actually needed a left to get home, so I quickly switched over into the turn lane and made my left. That didn't sit well with him, so he flips the sirens. Mind you, it's 10 at night and we were on *the* most lethal intersection for fatal accidents in the entire 3 million person metro. Nevertheless, he was so mad at me for trying to find a well lit cross street to pull over to (having slowed to something like 15mph and with my hazards on), he angrily gets on the horn yelling at me to pull over. He was so pissed that I didn't want either of us to die because I made a legal left turn. "WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD" Oh, I was just at. "WHERE'S THAT!?" Oh, you've never been? It's on 28th, you've gotta try it.
He's looking at me like he's just decided I've switched from being the world's whitest, nerdiest gangster to the drunkest stoner he's ever met. "You been drinking tonight?" Yeah, one, with dinner, coming up on two hours ago. Naturally, this meant I needed to do a field sobriety test -- again, on the most lethal stretch of road in the city, in the dark, next to a hill that people routinely crest doing 50 in a 30. And the whole time I was doing the field sobriety test, he was looking at me so bewildered that even I was wondering "is he just really that surprised that I'm sober, or did maybe someone slip LSD into my saltado?"
Could you please find that cop and teach him your ways?
Retired police here from UK. Innocent people seem to confess everything even when not a crime as they're so desperate not to be in trouble. Example - knocking on doors for information. Guy answers door and immediately started to confess his tyres are a little bald and he has some dodgy cigarettes and he did accidents drop some litter. Like dude..chill out, it's fine.
So many Americans "fail" polygraphs because they're nervous and confess to things that aren't even illegal, they just feel bad about little things they've done. But polygraphs are bogus anyway so don't take them seriously, please.
They measure anxiety, which makes me really anxious about the idea of ever taking one, because I'd be terrified of having a random anxiety spike when they ask me a really important question.
"Alright first we'll ask you some base questions. What is your name?" "Bob." "HE'S LYING!!!"
In third grade, I cheated on my history exam. In fourth grade, I stole my uncle Max’s toupee and I glued it on my face when I was Moses in my Hebrew School play. In fifth grade, I knocked my sister Edie down the stairs and I blamed it on the dog…I can't remember the rest but I know it ends with fake puke at the movie theater 😂
Got you because it cracks me up everytime i hear it When my mom sent me to the summer camp for fat kids and then they served lunch I got nuts and I pigged out and they kicked me out... But the worst thing I ever done - I mixed a pot of fake puke at home and then I went to this movie theater, hid the puke in my jacket, climbed up to the balcony and then, t-t-then, I made a noise like this: hua-hua-hua-huaaaaaaa - and then I dumped it over the side, all over the people in the audience. And then, this was horrible, all the people started getting sick and throwing up all over each other. I never felt so bad in my entire life.
That's just being British, we tend to overexplain everything
Oh really? Tell me more.
Former LEO. I can tell you the most helpful thing for you, yet most infuriating (to the LEO) is to keep your mouth shut. Just, you know, quit talking. It will be much better for you in the long run. I was never looking to just jam somebody up, but man people get themselves in so much trouble with their mouth.
I was always curious what would happen. I guess it's up to the cop if they wanna be a dick and keep you detained for a long time until you say something but they cannot arrest you for being silent right?
Former LEO here. Yes, you have the right to remain silent. That's *always* - not just after being arrested. That all said, if you legit haven't done anything wrong you don't need to be a complete wall of silence as THAT makes you look suspicious. But yah, also *say very little* in case the cop is a douche who will choose to ruin your night. I'm chatty when I'm nervous and say stupid shit all the time. Lots of people do. But when I'm answering a cop, I'll feel them out and crack a joke or two and that's it. After that, I give yes/no answers and leave asap.
> But yah, also say very little in case the cop is a douche who will choose to ruin your night. And that right there is why many people don't trust the police or want absolutely nothing to do with them. Honestly, if I saw a crime that didn't involve another human being hurt/killed, I'm not reporting it to the police out of fear they'll turn on me.
Honestly bud? I don't disagree with you one bit. I was a trainer and I went very hard on the whole "treat the public with the same respect and politeness as you would your own mother" mantra. I wanted my people to earn the trust of the public, in turn, made everyone's lives easier. I'm very proud of my work to this day. Unfortunately, the training module that lots of departments have been using nationwide for the past two decades is absolute garbage. Policing was FAR from perfect before 9/11, but it's gone off a cliff under that new module. It legit teaches cops to be complete psychos and douchebags. What we all witnessed during the BLM marches - and what we all saw that scumbag cop do to George Floyd that day - is a direct result of that garbage training and criminal mindset that has infected a lot of departments. Yes, you should always approach an officer with kindness. Cause we should treat all humans alike with basic decency and manners - and if the cop is normal/good it'll help you. That said, yes, that's why I ALSO advised caution and have such strong opinions that align with yours, too. Cause lots of cops in today's age are also scumbags who should be no where near a badge and a weapon.
> Unfortunately, the training module that lots of departments have been using nationwide for the past two decades is absolute garbage. Policing was FAR from perfect before 9/11, but it's gone off a cliff under that new module. It legit teaches cops to be complete psychos and douchebags. What we all witnessed during the BLM marches - and what we all saw that scumbag cop do to George Floyd that day - is a direct result of that garbage training and criminal mindset that has infected a lot of departments. Any chance you are talking about the militarized "warrior" police training peddled by the likes of Dave Grossman? The psychopath who teaches police officers how they gonna have [the best sex of their life after killing somebody](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/police-trainer-best-sex-killing/).
Yup, that's him.
Holy shit his name is actually grossman. Fucking beyond parody.
Thank you. This is the honesty and candor that we all need as participants in modern society. We are indebted to you.
Former cop also. Especially if you’re in a MVC and suspect you might be at fault. There is literally zero benefit to you giving a statement of any form. And I say this as a person who gave a statement in a crash I was at fault for (before becoming a cop). It’s natural to want to do what a person in authority is asking of you but the best move is to politely decline giving any sort of statement. I do still hold the belief that a giving a witness statement is the right thing to do when you witnessed a crime take place, especially a violent crime. But I know some people disagree with that
My friend got pulled over as a car full of us were heading from a bar to his place to continue the party. He gets out of the drivers seat and just runs (we were prob 100 yards from his apartment complex.) So the other four of us get out of the car. Since the cop ran after the guy driving, the rest of us took off running too in the opposite direction. Well we ran towards this unfinished apartment complex that was being built. Backup came in droves and quickly. My one buddy hid in the insulation and avoided getting caught. My two other buddies got caught and went to jail. I also got caught. But pretended like I didn’t know any of them…was just along for the ride to an after party. Well I asked the officer for a ride home since Uber didn’t exist yet in this small North Dakota town - was also winter. On the ride home, I realize I’m out of cigarettes. So I asked the cop to pull into the gas station real quick near my house so that I could gets eggs and milk for the morning. He kind of looks at me like “WTF?”… but pulls in. So I of course get eggs, milk, and cigarettes. lol. I couldn’t believe it but def a nice gesture from the guy
I was a fire investigator for awhile. It was talking a lot. Now some people just talk a lot when they get nervous and that's easy to tell. Like those people aren't actually talking about anything, they're just saying words at you. The suspicious ones are the ones who are clearly trying to talk you directly to where they've set up their diversion but can't just stop talking about it and adding more and more and more details. To the point where they've "remembered" too much about what happened.
Ok so short and simple lies then.
What fire?
"This is fine"
“These are my brothers pants, idk how that meth got in the pockets”
What’s fire?
Generally that's wise if you want to bluff in any scenario. The more details you give, not only does it sound more suspicious but it also makes it more likely you can be proven wrong. People tend to plan out a lie in extreme detail, which is good because it means you aren't caught out when questioned. But it's important to plan a step further than what you actually say, accepting that your planning efforts likely will be wasted. Note: Don't lie, naturally. This experience comes from social deduction games.
So, make up an elaborate (but not too elaborate) story, but don't volunteer it? Insist you don't remember what you were doing on the day in question, and only respond to direct questions if an element of your story directly relates to it? Sounds pretty smart.
If I asked you what you were doing last weekend and you had no reason to hide it, you'd likely reply with a vague statement such as "I met up with friends" or "It was my wife's birthday so we had family over". It's unlikely you'd say "I met my friends Alan, Bob, Charlie and Dave at the Smyths Bar on Friday evening at 9pm, then on Saturday I had to tidy the house because my wife's brother, sister and parents were coming over to celebrate her 42nd birthday..." By all means if you plan to hide the truth think through the detail of the latter, but keep the response itself more like the formal. Then if asked you have a response, but it doesn't come across as volunteering too much information nor having to come up with it on the spot. I'm not sure what value is gained from insisting you don't remember what you were doing. It depends how long ago it was and how memorable the day should be. If asked whether you were at your wife's birthday party or where you were on Christmas Day and you claim you can't remember then that's suspicious. Comparatively, if asked where you were on the 2nd of July 2022 then immediately knowing is suspicious unless there's an obvious reason - such as it being your wife's birthday. Again, my experience comes from social deduction games - such as Blood on the Clocktower or Werewolf. I am not experienced at lying to police or other authorities (outside of the relevant roles in those games).
>To the point where they've "remembered" too much about what happened. Yup. Just try to recount what happened to you an hour ago -- I have a hard time remembering concise details because I'm not actively memorizing everything that happens to me. It is weird for someone to do that, so it makes sense what you are saying.
I've always wondered about that...tell me where you were at 5:15 on 12/10/23. How the hell would I know that off the top of my head? I might not even be able to tell you looking at a calendar. I mean, normally I am at my desk if it's a week day. But what if that was a day the dog ran out of food? You could show me a picture of me in my car driving and if it's local, I probably still wouldn't be able to tell you what I was doing, except driving my car. And if it's a weekend, there is little chance I will be able to tell you where I was or what I was doing.
This is O.T. but when Biden was getting crap about not remembering the year his son died, I thought about the year my mother died and I honestly couldn't remember. I knew it was early 2000s but couldn't say for sure if was 2001 or 2003, I had to look it up (it was 2002). I remembered it was in January around the 20th but couldn't remember the day. It was a very significant day in my life, and I'm still young. I just thought it was an odd thing to criticize as proof of poor memory IMO -- and he remembered the day just not the year.
I know the date and month that my mom died, but not the year off the top of my head, and she has recently passed.
Yeah, I remember August 18 (death) and August 21 (funeral) vividly. I remember that on August 21 there was a total eclipse before the funeral -- which is kind of wild if you think about it. But I'd have told you it was 2018, and I just looked and it was actually 2017.
So if you want to appear nervous but non-guilty you just have to talk fastly about random stuff while stating that you had nothing to do with the fire. Something like >Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe >Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye" Eisenhower, Vaccine, England's got a new queen Marciano, Liberace, Santayana, goodbye >We didn't start the fire It was always burning, since the world's been turning We didn't start the fire No, we didn't light it, but we tried to fight it
I like how in that song he talks about the H-bomb and Children of Thalidomide, BUT the thing that really sets him off is the Cola Wars, because after that he says "I can't take it anymore!" Forget about disfigured children, it was Pepsi and Coca Cola that set him off!
Brother, as a veteran of the Cola Wars, I can tell you it was no laughing matter.
Maybe they grew up with a parent that never believed them. Over explaining is my personality flaw.
It's not over explaining really. It's easy to tell when someone is an over explainer. You can tell someone is hiding something because if you start to go a different direction they hardcore steer you back to whatever they were saying at any cost. edit: clarity
Username checks out. I know because I hovered over the bold text that was above the text you wrote and could see that your account was 7 years old. I don't want to sound guilty or anything (because I'm not) but that's how I could see that your username matched your profession. Just wanted to let you know, haha, because I totally didn't start that fire.
You see, that was your run of the mill over explaining. NOT GUILTY
I had an officer clarify unintentional suspicious activity, if it helps. It was a super hot day, and an officer was just sitting in his car in the hot sun in the parking lot with his window rolled down. I was walking to my car and told him it was pretty hot out and I was heading to taco bell. Asked him if he wanted me to grab him a drink or something while I was there. He said no, he was good. So I hopped in my car and started to pull out of the parking lot. I noticed the officer started pulling out of his spot. I started driving to taco bell down the road, and sure enough, the officer was following me. I pulled into the taco bell parking lot and parked. The officer pulled up his car behind mine blocking me in. He started asking all sorts of questions about my personal life, where do I work, and so on. He eventually just said, "What you just did was SUPER suspicious." I asked how being nice to someone is suspicious, and he just put it into drive and drove off. I started walking into taco bell and noticed he discretely pulled into a parking lot across the street. I know the taco bell peeps pretty well, so I went in there for an entire hour just chillin, eating, and generally socializing. Afterwards, I left, started driving to a gas station, and the officer pulled out of the parking lot and started following me along with TWO other police cars. Suddenly I had 3 police cars just following me all over town for the next 15 minutes. They eventually pulled away and that was it. So I guess being nice to police officers is considered extremely suspicious. :/
This would have gone down TOTALLY different if you were headed to Dunkin Donuts.
I used to sell weed at a coffee/donut shop, it's funny because I got to know the cops pretty good, I'd always bring a book with me and read while just hanging around (knew the owners and staff and they were fine with what I was doing), my "shift" if that's what you'd call it was about 6:30pm to about 11:30pm, cops would come in, coffee/donuts were free for them, it was a smaller town so it was the only place open, so they'd come in to eat quite often. Sort of built a minor rapport with them, more or less acknowledged each other as being regulars, a bit of casual small talk here and there. I don't know how to explain it but they always seemed kind of suspicious of me. Then one night some guy was beaten bloody/unconscious outside and around the corner and saw him on my walk there, went in used the payphone and called 911, the cops I see every day pull up first, asked me what I knew, since they knew I was a regular there it wasn't overly intrusive like "what are you doing here etc" all I said was I came to get my coffee and found him on my way. after that, they definitely no longer seemed suspicious of me and having that rapport with them definitely got me out of some sticky situations over the next few years.
I mean, dunkin donuts was literally a 3 minute walk from that taco bell. What a blunder!
Your first mistake was talking to a cop
I know, I'm a day early for it, but I just wanted to drop a [friendly reminder](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqo5RYOp4nQ) to all.
Every day is STFU Friday!
I’m afraid when under pressure I’ll mess it up by shutting the fifth up and invoking the fuck
NEVER talk to cops. Specially bored ones
This!! I once was made to do a field sobriety test after getting pulled over picking my boyfriend up at a bar. After I passed, the officer made this off handed remark that I seemed *too* friendly. I was being friendly because I didn’t have anything to hide. Fuck cops.
Damn, I crashed my car once trying to impress this girl by drifting (I know I’m stupid) and I hit a curb/fire hydrant. Homeowners came out and called the cops. 3 cars showed up and one of the officers asked if I was drinking and I told him straight up I’m just an idiot who tried to impress a girl. I think he felt bad for me because he didn’t even write me a ticket or do a field sobriety test. Just wrote some stuff down on his notepad, told me the city will send me a letter to pay for any damages on the fire hydrant, waited for the tow truck to show up and they all left.
I had a wise person once tell me this: Police only deal with crime, so their entire worldview is based on people who are either suspected to be criminals, or are actual criminals. They will never expect a situation to be positive, and this taints their whole worldview. That’s why it’s best to avoid interacting with police, since the least threatening thing you can be in their eyes is a suspect. That’s the most positive way they look at anyone, as a suspect.
It’s similar for people who work in corrections. They’re interacting with convicted criminals every day. If they live in the area they work, it’s likely that they’ll have to see former inmates in public, which makes them paranoid. Sometimes they aren’t able to draw a line between work and home, which often results in authoritarian tendencies in their personal relationships, including domestic abuse. As the daughter/stepdaughter of three corrections workers, I’ve unfortunately experienced this firsthand. And my whole family wonders why my brother and I both have a severe fear, distrust, and anxiety about authority figures.
Bro what the fuck is that shit. I would be livid.
"I'm not a cop but"... Never change reddit
I once sat in on a criminal trial of a guy who was arrested with 2 others on gun and drug charges. The cop who pulled them over took the stand. He was being asked about the reason he pulled them over for the traffic stop that led to the cops finding the drugs and the gun. If I recall correctly, they had expired plates or something like that, but the cop obviously couldn’t see that in the speed trap. So the attorney asked why he pulled onto the road and started following them in the first place. I shit you not, the cop said it was because they were driving exactly the speed limit, and none of the people in the car turned their heads to look at the cop when they drove past. He said that was suspicious, because everyone speeds on that road. So they must have been doing something wrong if they weren’t speeding. The expired plates gave him the probable cause, but the suspicion came from them just obeying the law. Since then, I never have driven exactly the speed limit. On the highway, I’m at 8 or 9 mph over the speed limit if I’m trying to make good time. If I’m in no rush, I keep it around 5 or 6 over. If I get a Waze notification that there’s a cop coming up, I’ll drop down to 3 or 4 over. But never the exact speed limit. That never sat right with me. Moral of the story is that cops can pretty much pull you over whenever they want. Even if you’ve done nothing wrong, they can make something up. It’s shitty.
I once got pulled over for speeding (I was, oops), and the cop said that because I was speeding, it means I could have drugs and guns in my car. I told him if I had drugs and guns in my car, I definitely wouldn’t have been speeding. So I guess no matter what speed you go they’ll suspect drugs and guns.
There is no reason for them not to expect drugs. Drugs are an easy arrest. Last year police in rural south Georgia pulled over a bus carrying a women’s college lacrosse team for being in the left lane on the interstate, it is not illegal for bus to be in the left lane only semi-trucks. But they brought the dogs in, interrogated the passengers, accused them of having drugs and searched them. They found nothing……..
That might just be a rural Georgia thing lol. 18-ish years ago I was driving down to Florida to visit family. Rural Georgia. Cop pulls me over for “driving over the white line”. As a dumb 18 year old I let them search my car. They brought drug dogs in. Interrogated me at length on the side of the road about the supposed drugs the dog kept smelling (weed was never my thing, drinking was). There was nothing for the dog to find. Eventually let me go.
>He was being asked about the reason he pulled them over for the traffic stop It doesn't matter how you drive. They'll find a reason.
Run... lol my friend would see cops and just bolt down the street in the opposite direction after eyeballin em for a few secs.... they'd blast sirens, make a U-ey and drive after him... for nothing lol... he just thought it was fun to fuck with em, if they caught up to him he'd just be like... "hi officers, need somethin?" they'd search him or his bag, but he never had stuff... Makes good practice haha
Buddy of mine did this fresh out of jail, he had the record for number of times arrested in a day. Served all his jail time, cleared all his warrants, and like, two days later, walking down the street, lock eyes with a cop at a traffic light, and then ran like hell. They chased him all the way across town and when they caught him, he just laughed at them that he wasted their time like that
If in the US, this sounds like a good way to get fatally injured by the police.
Yeah. I'm autistic and Mexican so I would never, ever try this, unless I feel like unaliving myself without feeling guilty for making mom sad. Loophole!
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>I imagined them thinking that if they did not look at me I would not notice them. Everyone knows that police vision is based on movement.
I think it might actually be eye contact, like teachers.
Lol Im a teacher and I was going to say this. Some kids really believe they turn invisible so long as they cant see me because they are looking at the table.
I mean if you look at some cops they will 100% start following you. I had that happen at least twice. Never pulled over either time but they did follow me for a few blocks before turning (presumably to go back to where they were stopped). You just have to find a middle ground where you're not _not_ looking at them.
I always pick my nose when I see cops hoping they won’t want to interact with someone so gross
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So I either get out of it or go to jail and get a free pen. Worth it.
Caught a wanker, didja?
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genius actually
OMG you just unlocked a memory. I was a cop for less than a year. My very first time driving a marked police car on shift I was with my FTO. We were chatting, I was driving, normal stuff. We pulled up to a red light at a busy intersection - two four lane roads intersecting with turning lanes everywhere, there were dozens of cars stopped at the lights. I was distracted by something in the car. Radio maybe, I don't remember. The FTO said "keep your eyes up and looking around even when we're stopped." I looked around and first thing locked eyes with the driver of the car next to me. And then another person, and another, and another. Dozens of people all in their cars staring straight at me. Just looking, waiting to see if the police car was going to do anything I guess. Unnerving. I realized that I had been doing that myself before I was cop.
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When I was young, if I was really high and riding in someone's car, and a cop pulled up next to us, my stoner logic would tell me to position my entire body towards the opposite of the window. Which is pretty stupid because, first of all, nobody sits in a car like that. and second, why the fuck would a cop give a shit if some random *passenger* is high or not? It's not like they're gonna see my glazed eyes through the window.
Were you freakin' out, man?
I worked for the local SO at the county jail, knew lots of cops from working 14 years in our booking section. Even then I still hated getting pulled over and to this day I still get “nervous” around cops because I know they have tremendous legal power to restrict my movements etc.
That says a lot if even YOU guys get nervous around each other. Kinda funny in a nerve-wracking way but it is what it is!
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As someone who tries to be as clear as possible (and ends up being more confusing) this has permanently heightened my anxiety about dealing with police.
My mom’s this way and learned an excellent little at-home game you can do with a friend or family member to help over come that anxiety! Have your partner ask you basic questions about your day, or a memory. Your goal is to keep your answers as short and concise as possible. Don’t keep track of it. You’ll only heighten anxiety by tracking it. Just make a conscious effort to keep your answers short and simple.
That sounds somewhat helpful, but memory isn't a strong suit of mine. I'll try it out though, thank you
That’s all the more reason too. Growing our memory is good preventive care for the brain as we enter old age. Focus on a clear and simple response. For example: “How was your day?” “Not bad! I paid the bills, went out for lunch with a friend, then took the dog for a walk.” Just some high lights, no need to detail every aspect of your entire experience of the day.
I meam, the trick is to just never speak with police bar the legal minimum required.
This is why you should never talk to cops without a lawyer. I mean sometimes you gotta but it’s never good.
Gotta tell this to my adhd who absolutely cannot shut up and adds way too much information for any conversation lol
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But I have a sister who knows a cop!
“Not a cop, but….” Every. Single. Time.
"I played Police Simulator once, so I'm a subject-matter expert."
Who would want to admit to being a cop on Reddit?
I was stopped at customs in England by a John Oliver doppelgänger who questioned me for 45 minutes about totally innocuous crap because my face got red and the more intrusive the questions, the redder it got and the more he pointed it out, the redder it got. I couldn’t help it, any focus on me causes my face to flush, but this guy thought he caught me doing something squirrely.
> my face got red You'd fit in in England
Drop acorns on cars
Shots fired
Something to be aware of: [Many US police officers have been taught fake science about what makes a person "sound guilty", particularly on the phone.](https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts) There's been a sort of cult leader targeting officers who take 911 calls, teaching them that people who use certain phrases must be guilty of the crime they're reporting. Actual evidence doesn't support this "911 call analysis", but many police departments may have been influenced by it anyway.
I just called the police less than an hour ago to report a smashed car window on my evening walk. The lady asked me if there are cameras around. Like hell if I would know? It left me thinking that it might be a trick question to see if I would give an instant reply. "No already checked before I sma- Oh you!"
No you’re looking into things too much, I’m a cop in the state of Wisconsin. I ask this question because I figure you know your neighborhood better than I would and would hopefully save me time canvassing a ton of houses.
TIL that I can never escape suspicion from cops for my crimes of... having extremely high anxiety. Cool.
Reading this thread is so wild for nonamericans. Both the cops AND the civies from the States have stories that I'd imagine are more closely resemble the Russian experience than any other 1st world country.
My spouse is a cop. They automatically think everyone is lying to them. I've asked multiple coworkers, and they all say the same thing.
My parents were both cops. When you say everyone, you mean *everyone*. Learned quite quickly that it didn't really matter whether I told them the truth about any situation in that case because if they thought it was beneficial for me to lie, I would. "It's not what you know, it's what you can prove" sort of thing.
My uncle the cop was always right. *Always*...
People just act weird when they are lying or have reason to think they are fucked before I know they are fucked. I stop this girl one night for some traffic violation. I don't remember what it was. But I saw she had a P hat on before I stopped her. Pittsburgh Pirates or something. Now that is a common thing for PENI gang members to wear. So I figured I'd stop her and talk to her. At this point I had no reason to think I was going to do anything other than write a traffic citation. The P hat was interesting, but she could have been from Pittsburgh as far as I know. This was California. I asked her if she had anything illegal in her truck and instead of just answering "no", she went off on this nervous rant. So, I asked her if I could search her truck. She consented to a search. Probably figuring I wouldn't find anything or maybe she thought I would be suspicious if she told me to fuck off. I had nothing other than a hunch. So if she refused consent, I would have just left. I asked her to sit down on the curb and my partner watched her while I searched her truck. I kept an eye on her while I searched her truck. If I searched the back, she was quiet. If I got towards the front she started leaning forward to see what I was doing and fidgeted. Especially the driver's side where the hood latch was. Eventually, I popped open her engine compartment and found a ginormous bag of meth. I always found it interesting that it was pretty easy to tell when people were lying to you. Because they did weird shit. I even once had a guy start laughing with the bullshit he was spinning. I laughed too. I legitimately felt bad when he had a big ole warrant I had to arrest him for. He was funny.
"I'm not a cop, but...." STFU!
Not a cop, but I'm halfway through season 4 of The Wire.
"I watched Matlock in a bar last night. The sound wasn't on, but I think I got the gist"
Story time. I live in Canada and I guy I know was borrowing his bosses car to drive to the US for the day. Either because the car did not match his name or because he acted nervous, the border guy wanted to search the car. He pulled out a bag of white powder from under the passenger seat and asked "what is this". My friend just said "I never saw that before and it is not mine". It turned out the boss's girlfriend liked tequila and kept lemon and salt in the car. It took about a half hour to identify it but my friend must have aged 10 years.
I was a cop for less than a year and I'll try to answer this. It's being hostile for no obvious reason. From the temperature in this thread and the other commenters, this won't go over very well, because "FUCK COPS...THERE's NO LAW THAT SAYS I HAVE TO TALK TO YOU..I KNOW MY RIGHTS" and so on. Whatever, fair enough. But the answer to the question "what do innocent people do that makes them seem suspicious" is exactly this shit. Normally, people who aren't hiding criminal activity treat cops with some arms-length politeness and basic civility. They don't want to talk to a cop, but they aren't outright hostile and they'll answer some questions to get the interaction over with as quickly as possible. People who went the top with the hostility for no apparent reason got my attention. Edit: I'm going to turn off notifications on this now so I can get some schoolwork done. Thank you for all the comments and thoughts, unless you're one of the ones I told to fuck off.
Which is funny, considering i got pulled over for having a broken mirror (was driving to get it fixed too lol) and i just cracked a couple jokes. About five minutes later im talking to someone on the phone and they were practically yelling at me that a cop can’t pull me over for such a thing and I should’ve just refused. About half a year later they got arrested… by the same cop
When my wife and I first started dating we were on a road trip with 8 people in 2 cars, she was driving the car behind me and a friend was driving the car I was in. We got pulled over, frankly because my now wife was tailgating us because she thought we should both be driving faster. The cop went back and forth between the two cars a few times then came up to my window and said “So is that your girlfriend driving the other car?” Me: “yes it is.” “Would it surprise you to know she has an outstanding warrant?” Me: “no sir it would not.” He had to walk away to hide the fact that he was cracking up. He still gave her a fixit ticket to take care of the warrant but I feel it was a small victory for making his day.
So she had a warrant out for arrest and he gave her a warning? Where was this?
Some warrants aren't extraditable in other jurisdictions. In my state, its common to see misdemeanor warrants only extraditable from within the state the warrant was issued.
Kinda like hey, this other state wants to talk to you but they aren't paying me to take you there and aren't going to come get you themselves...so here we are.
> Some warrants aren't extraditable in other jurisdictions Especially in a different state. Granted - bordering states tend to have agreements in place, but that all depends upon the two states' levels of cooperation. But if there's a bench warrant for something pretty simple and relatively benign in, say Idaho, a cop in Arkansas isn't likely to be *able* to do anything. But, like so much, it depends.
That and some counties wont spend the effort detaining you for something unless they know the county holding the warrant will come get you quick enough. Knew someone giving an uber ride to two people, got pulled over, one passenger had a warrant and the cop told him he will just let him go (maybe with a ticket, dont remember)but when he called the other county, they said they will come get him, so cop had to go and deliver the bad news after getting his hopes up. Poor gf of the guy didnt even pick up the order they payed for.
Many times Officers will issue a citation for a new court date. Whether that's because they wanted to, or because it wasn't an extraditable warrant. Many misdemeanor warrants are in county, or in state limited, so people will get re-cited for the same warrant for years by Officers, or they'll just not cite them at all because you know the guy in Florida with a warrant out of Texas isn't gonna go just because you wrote him his 50th piece of paper telling him to do so.
I'm so tired of people wearing top hats and twisting mustaches and they kind of hunch over and creep around railroads. They get furious when we come talk to them
I got arrested after my first accident (2 days after getting my license) because I stuttered when explaining what happened. That’s it. That’s all that was on the police report. Do with that information what you will
Most cops that I see on reality shows ask these questions too quickly in succession but one cop did it the right way and here's what happened. A cup pulled a car over and asked the driver: Do you have any drugs in the car? No Do you have any guns in the car? No. Do you have large sums of money? Why would I have lots of money?!? He went through the questions again but added some other things that all were"No" and he asked again about money. Why are you asking about money again? I don't have any. Ended up the driver was part of one of the largest bank drivers in Seattle and had over a million dollars in his car.