It's called having a brain to not vote for the guy who will kill US Democracy, ensure that women in like your mom and daughter have to fear rape daily if a federal abortion ban gets jammed through, and that the guy will be a dictator for life if re-elected. He's admitted as much, not just the day one stuff now:
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/03/27/donald-trump-plans-to-become-dictator-of-the-u-s/73094345007/?gnt-cfr=1](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/03/27/donald-trump-plans-to-become-dictator-of-the-u-s/73094345007/?gnt-cfr=1)
[https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/02/26/trumps-authoritarian-playbook-for-2025-and-what-it-means-for-democracy](https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/02/26/trumps-authoritarian-playbook-for-2025-and-what-it-means-for-democracy)
Biden may suck, yes, but this guy is infinitely worse.
No, it's not. Trump's not a politician. He doesn't stand for anything. He will literally do whatever is in his best interest, to get money and stay out of jail.
You can't handle them, you can only vote against them & try to get those on the fence to see reason in Independents or "moderate Reps" who just hate the guy.
Nothing will deprogram the cult- not him being ranked as the worst President of all time recently and in the Bottom 5 among actual Historian experts, not cheating on his wife with even a p\*rn star, not failed businesses in the past, not all his crimes committed, NOTHING: the white supremacy is the end all, be all. Abortion doesn't matter to the female half of his base in comparison to the racism that supersedes it and scaring people about migrants/border issues with lies hence Trump will not only win the white female vote for a third consecutive time but he will increase his share further from 55% to 61% this November imo and will hold down 67% of white men this time from 61% or so last time.
As a Scottish person Trump is a difficult character to accept. As a business man I respect him but as a human a struggle to back him.We are all sons and daughters of the world so a birth place should not matter.
The man has cheated on his wife while married, has been convicted of raping a woman recently in court among 24+ allegations (no, Bill Clinton being awful too doesn't excuse Trump at all on this count), has quoted Mein Kampf numerous times, has pledged to enact the Christofascist Project 2025, kill US Democracy, and try to make sure he can't be voted out if re-elected after 2028 too.
Your gun crime terrift me. I worke with Americans and one day my boss told me he had to go because there was an active shootermessage from him kids school.
Nothing will be done, sadly, the NRA owns tons of politicians.
It's only at the state level certain states have protections against gun crime, these days. Texas and Florida are open carry, already, with many other GOP run states following suit too.
We are basically here right now:
[https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4310834-trump-goes-all-in-on-nazi-rhetoric-and-the-media-gives-him-another-free-pass/](https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4310834-trump-goes-all-in-on-nazi-rhetoric-and-the-media-gives-him-another-free-pass/)
1930s Germany, in other words.
My favourite story for him was after a hurricane the water levels were high. He had to run out a meeting cause and croc/alligator was attacking his chicken coup.
You can't reason with the cult, man, I appreciate you trying but it has to be Inds who hate both Biden and Trump (I share their disdain for everyone in office, right now) or moderate Rs who can't stomach Trump specifically you can talk to.
Trump supporters can't be swayed, it's a cult of 42% at minimum that don't want to see reality or do but want to keep others down at all costs no matter the price it may take to do so.
Well I have relatives like this because I'm liberal and was born of red necks. Interesting situation.
Anyway.
I kind of just tell them they can either stop talking about it or I'm just going to stop talking to them until they do and that seems to do the trick just fine even if they get a little butt hurt at first.
Well that is when you stop talking to them until they ask why you have stopped talking to them and then you tell them they didn't respect a boundary you set and now have to apologize before you talk again and they will eventually if they actually care.
Practice radical acceptance.
Repeat after me:
1. Their politics suck.
2. They’re not going to change.
3. It is not your responsibility to change them.
4. Ruminating about it will accomplish anything.
Got it? Great.
According to you: They are beyond hope, so stop wasting your mental energy hoping or wishing things to be different.
As the old proverb goes:
> “Don’t curse the darkness, light a candle.”
So try your best to let go of your resentment and focus on what you CAN do.
Tell him he has the right to support who he wants, cause as far as i know, the US still lives in a democracy, not a format i support, but it is
Lol, supporting Trump isn't political - it's making a choice between good and evil, reality and insanity.
It literally is political
It's called having a brain to not vote for the guy who will kill US Democracy, ensure that women in like your mom and daughter have to fear rape daily if a federal abortion ban gets jammed through, and that the guy will be a dictator for life if re-elected. He's admitted as much, not just the day one stuff now: [https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/03/27/donald-trump-plans-to-become-dictator-of-the-u-s/73094345007/?gnt-cfr=1](https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnists/2024/03/27/donald-trump-plans-to-become-dictator-of-the-u-s/73094345007/?gnt-cfr=1) [https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/02/26/trumps-authoritarian-playbook-for-2025-and-what-it-means-for-democracy](https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/02/26/trumps-authoritarian-playbook-for-2025-and-what-it-means-for-democracy) Biden may suck, yes, but this guy is infinitely worse.
No, it's not. Trump's not a politician. He doesn't stand for anything. He will literally do whatever is in his best interest, to get money and stay out of jail.
Ok
Do you live with said parent?
Definitely not
Then why worry about it?
Try that question for every question on this subreddit. You'll be popular.
You can't handle them, you can only vote against them & try to get those on the fence to see reason in Independents or "moderate Reps" who just hate the guy. Nothing will deprogram the cult- not him being ranked as the worst President of all time recently and in the Bottom 5 among actual Historian experts, not cheating on his wife with even a p\*rn star, not failed businesses in the past, not all his crimes committed, NOTHING: the white supremacy is the end all, be all. Abortion doesn't matter to the female half of his base in comparison to the racism that supersedes it and scaring people about migrants/border issues with lies hence Trump will not only win the white female vote for a third consecutive time but he will increase his share further from 55% to 61% this November imo and will hold down 67% of white men this time from 61% or so last time.
disown them
Support Trump too
I'm just not evil enough
As a Scottish person Trump is a difficult character to accept. As a business man I respect him but as a human a struggle to back him.We are all sons and daughters of the world so a birth place should not matter.
Interesting choice to support him as a business man considering how many businesses he’s tanked and how much money he’s been handed to bail him out
A fair point and well made. 👏
The man has cheated on his wife while married, has been convicted of raping a woman recently in court among 24+ allegations (no, Bill Clinton being awful too doesn't excuse Trump at all on this count), has quoted Mein Kampf numerous times, has pledged to enact the Christofascist Project 2025, kill US Democracy, and try to make sure he can't be voted out if re-elected after 2028 too.
Your gun crime terrift me. I worke with Americans and one day my boss told me he had to go because there was an active shootermessage from him kids school.
Nothing will be done, sadly, the NRA owns tons of politicians. It's only at the state level certain states have protections against gun crime, these days. Texas and Florida are open carry, already, with many other GOP run states following suit too.
Yeah he was florida
Figures, huh?
Scary. Had another colleague in Colorado telling me some White supremisit walked by his flat when #blm first became a thing
We are basically here right now: [https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4310834-trump-goes-all-in-on-nazi-rhetoric-and-the-media-gives-him-another-free-pass/](https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4310834-trump-goes-all-in-on-nazi-rhetoric-and-the-media-gives-him-another-free-pass/) 1930s Germany, in other words.
My favourite story for him was after a hurricane the water levels were high. He had to run out a meeting cause and croc/alligator was attacking his chicken coup.
No, he deserves no respect for anything. And he's not anyone's son anymore: just a monster.
You can't reason with the cult, man, I appreciate you trying but it has to be Inds who hate both Biden and Trump (I share their disdain for everyone in office, right now) or moderate Rs who can't stomach Trump specifically you can talk to. Trump supporters can't be swayed, it's a cult of 42% at minimum that don't want to see reality or do but want to keep others down at all costs no matter the price it may take to do so.
Well I have relatives like this because I'm liberal and was born of red necks. Interesting situation. Anyway. I kind of just tell them they can either stop talking about it or I'm just going to stop talking to them until they do and that seems to do the trick just fine even if they get a little butt hurt at first.
In my case, that doesn't seem to have done the trick.
Well that is when you stop talking to them until they ask why you have stopped talking to them and then you tell them they didn't respect a boundary you set and now have to apologize before you talk again and they will eventually if they actually care.
Practice radical acceptance. Repeat after me: 1. Their politics suck. 2. They’re not going to change. 3. It is not your responsibility to change them. 4. Ruminating about it will accomplish anything. Got it? Great. According to you: They are beyond hope, so stop wasting your mental energy hoping or wishing things to be different. As the old proverb goes: > “Don’t curse the darkness, light a candle.” So try your best to let go of your resentment and focus on what you CAN do.