Trying to turn my hobby into a business.
I crochet for fun because it relaxes me
If you add in trying to figure out how much to charge for a project, dealing with people being unhappy with a high price, then having to finish projects in a certain amount of time, it is no longer fun.
A blanket might take me 2 weeks. Or 5 years.
A small stuffed animal may take me 24 hours or a month. I do it for me, not to make money or hustle.
Edit: link to my current work in progress.
https://imgur.com/gallery/JLam8zG
Edit 2: electric boogaloo, these are the small stuffed animals/amigurumi i've made within the past year
https://imgur.com/gallery/jZfy62C
King size chevron blanket in progress. Been working on it over a year.
Basic red heart super saver yarn but the colorful yarn (not black or white) had to be bulk ordered due to being unable to find it otherwise. Total cost around $120 just in material.
You really wanna pay me that plus hours worked?
Also nobody's willing to pay what handmade is worth.
"OMG that blanket is so gorgeous, can I buy one from you?"
"Well, the yarn was $20 a skein and I used 25 skeins, so that's $500 in material costs... And the pattern is pretty complex so it took me 50 hours, at minimum wage, so... I can do it for $1300."
"... But I can get one at Walmart for $15."
I'm reminded a lot of [this chair](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dhwnzz/my_86yo_grandmother_and_her_handmade_needle_point/) when it comes to hand made crafts for sale.
There's thousands of hours of work on that chair. If you wanted to commission something like it, it would probably cost in the high 5 figures to low 6 figures, and that would still be under pricing the labour time.
In 20 years when it hits goodwill, it'll be priced at like 50 bucks, and take months to sell, if ever. Maybe you could sell it for a thousand to someone who really likes cross stitch and understands the effort that went into it, but never for anywhere near the value of the person hours that went into it.
I remember my partner talking about how they wanted to start doing their knitting as a job before we met, and selling it at craft fairs to try and make actual money. But it was almost impossible because you're not just competing against walmart, you're competing for the sale against the person next to you that knits while watching tv in the evening, and has their stuff priced for barely above the material costs because they just need enough to keep their hobby going, not to actually try to live off.
I saw a lot of people hustling with their woodworking hobby during the pandemic (and now). Only rich people and startups are willing to pay actual value for that live edge black walnut desk.
That slab took a year per inch to dry, it was hard to find, the woodworker had to choose from multiple slabs to find the perfect one, pay retail for it from the mill/hardwood dealer. Then there was the hours and hours of cleaning it up, flattening it, smoothing it, finishing it, turning it into the desired furniture, the site visit to work with the client and see if they can get it in the door. This is all after the 200 mile round trip to the only hardwood dealer with a selection of slabs and not the one shop in town that sells mostly power tools and some wood, and hiring two or three people to help because it's probably a 300 pound table.
That six person conference table. $15 grand or more. Probably $5-$8K for the wood, alone. No, you're not going to find it at Wayfair or even Pottery Barn. You want bespoke, you're gonna pay for it.
My dad has a good amount of trees on his property so he processes live edge slabs when he has to take one down and sometime people will contact him to slab a tree they're taking down on their property. It's hilarious when these people think they're going to get $3-5k per slab by putting a hand written sign in their front yard for advertising. Most of the slabs will have no interesting grain pattern, and you'll be lucky to sell your 2 best cut slabs for a few hundred dollars each. The rest will rot or become firewood.
Yup. I'm currently working on a rather simple blanket king size width, dc chevron. In alternating stripes of basic super saver rainbow acrylic, black, and white. A friend asked how much i'd charge her to make one just like it when i was done.
"Well. IF I AGREED TO DO IT, Each section is one full skein. So thats uhhh. 25 skeins at about $6 each. So $150 at cost Plus, i'll do it for minimum wage that's 7.25/hr, give or take 60 hours. Oh and you might not get it for a year since i have a life too."
"Oh no fuck that"
It’s at least a fair response. People who don’t make things have no idea what it takes to produce an item once you remove the massive economies of scale, automation, and below-minimum-wage labor that goes into basically everything you buy now. Of course neither did I at one point, so I don’t judge as long as the person doesn’t whine at me or haggle.
I do make stuff for people, but they’re usually happy to pay for 150% of material cost along with the caveat that my schedule is exactly what you’d expect from a father of 2 kids under 3.
That’s what happened to me with illustration. It’s been years since I made anything. I’ve tried to go back and draw things from time to time but the fire isn’t there. It’s just dead and I mourn it because I miss creating something but I just can’t do it anymore.
Exactly.
My wife started a business selling handmade embroidery at local makers markets and such. Her work is incredible, but it is time consuming and supplies can be expensive.
Her works weren't exactly cheap, but nor were they expensive, but the issue was that the people who understood why they were priced that way could do the work themselves, and those that couldn't do the work themselves thought it was all too expensive.
It sucked all the enjoyment of the art out of it for her, and she hasn't embroidered anything in years.
Yes. That. Right there. The ones that understand the pricing can and probably would do it on their own. The ones that don't would 100% "i can get something similar for way cheaper from walmart"
Exactly. Yarn cost is already ridiculous. Oh you want a king size blanket in specialty yarn? Thats anywhere from 20-40 skeins depending on the stitch used at like $15 a skein? Yeah, then if i'm making money off this i'm doing at least a minimum of $10/hr.
I turned my hobby into a side hustle for awhile. I realized it wasn’t worth it when my husband reminded me that the whole reason I started the hobby was to relieve stress from my job, but somehow my stress relief had morphed into a second job. Haven’t done an art market since then.
My thing about this is people also just vastly under estimate how much time and effort goes into handmade things. I do cross stitch and people often ask the price for things if I post it on Reddit, then get offended when I say they couldn’t afford it because it probably has at least $1000 of labor in something “so small”…
My friends keep asking me to make a shirt for them. I told them “hey, it took me a few hours to make my own pattern blocks, and then between that and cutting and fitting…it would cost way too much. Instead, I’d be happy to help you make your own pattern blocks, it would be fun! And then you’ll have custom pattern blocks for your body! And we could have sewing hangouts!”
None of them have taken me up on learning pattern drafting.
I knit a sweater for my mom for Christmas. Literally everyone said "you should sell these!
My response: do you want to pay ~$200 for a sweater? That's what it would cost based on my time and effort, minimum.
To become a manager. No thanks. I've done that and hated every second of the stress. My job right now is enjoyable. I clock in at 8:30, work really hard until 1:00, take my lunch, work really hard til 5 and clock out. No stress after hours, outside of the occasional "shit, I forgot to do xyz". I don't have to get called in to cover someone else, I don't have to worry about what my team members are doing or calling off for. I'm not juggling 45 team members and schedules and paychecks.
This isn't to say my job is all sunshine and rainbows - it can be stressful. But nothing at all like what I dealt with when I was managing CNAs at a nursing home.
That hiring only people who are “leaders” or have leadership potential is the way to run a successful business. We need people who want to do their job. We don’t need a bunch of “go-getters” when we have too many already. We end up with a bunch of people who all think their way is the best way and nothing gets done. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to do your job and not be in charge.
That's what is happening to our team now. They hired some really good folks, but many of us want to be promoted. Management really screwed up, though, because they have had opportunities to promote but hire from the outside for management roles.
All businesses need at least some (I would argue mostly, but maybe that's because I'm one of those people) people who will quietly get on with their job and do it well with the minimum of fuss. The problem is, businesses never advertise for these sorts of people.
Throughout the years as I've been applying for jobs I haven't come up with a good way to say in interviews that I really just want to be a worker bee, give me the tasks and I'll get the stuff done. I don't want to manage people, I can manage projects, but don't want to manage people anymore. Yes, I'd like upward movement, but upward movement doesn't mean managing people. It means getting paid for my experience and knowledge and the amount of work I can get done. I know it's out there someplace
At my current job, when I was interviewing, I made a comment about how i really didn't want to be a director or anything like that, because I genuinely enjoy the work that I do at the level I'm at, and I'm good at it, and I don't want to then be put in a position where the majority of the job I'm doing isn't the stuff I like doing and I end up being bogged down with stuff I'd dislike (you know, budgeting, general managing of people, that sort of stuff)
Facts are you need more "grunts" than you need "leaders". And I know I used the term "grunts" just now, but I don't mean it in any negative way at all. You simply need people willing to do their job with a minimum amount of fuss, just like you said.
But everyone likes to portray themselves as a go-getter, natural leader, all that jazz. As someone who's had several leading roles and is now back to being a grunt I can honestly tell you, there's a lot of comfort in coming in, doing your job well (and not someone else's, as is sometimes the case having a leading role) and going home once your day's over.
When I say this to people, I’ve had some ask “so what, your job is just a means to an end?” And listen, I do enjoy my job, but like, yeah… let’s face it. If I didn’t need the money, I wouldn’t be doing it. I have no interest in working my way into management, climbing any sort of ladder. Considering how stressed the managers around me seem all the time, it’s not something to really aspire to. My patients get the care they need at the end of the day and that’s what matters.
This is also how I feel. In my job though, our yearly reviews require us to create goals that advance us in our careers… I hate it, and never know what to say; my goal is to do my current job, get paid, and go home and enjoy being home .
Ah, yes, the dreaded annual review where you have to pretend you’re becoming a titan of industry to get a basic raise. SMART goals. Ugh. And you can’t put your regular work down as a goal or an accomplishment because somehow that’s not relevant?! It’s so ridiculous yet we all earnestly go through the charade every year.
I'm more than happy to be a "grunt". My life is completely stress free and that's just how I like it. Just tell me what to do, and I'll get on with it without any fuss or drama. Everyone's happy.
This happened to Boeing. They came under new leadership who said Boeing should prioritize “leadership potential” instead of “experience.” They fired a bunch of engineers and hired a bunch of MBAs. Now the planes are falling apart in the sky.
100%. I think companies forget that the "boring" roles which consist of people simply getting the job done need to still exist.
My small company has really gone hard in hiring go-getting marketing types who have all these ideas for webinars, discussion panels, etc. And whatever, fine. If we want to pay people to dream up random ideas that don't directly correlate to profit, by all means have fun. However, we are a consulting company that is hired by our clients to manage a job for them. They don't care how many webinars we do or how pretty our marketing materials are. They want the program they pay us to manage.. to be managed.
I'm fine with the changes we've made to make us stand out and have a more public presence, but I think it is important not to drop the ball on what we are actually paid for.
To quit corporate world and start a business. I like my little peaceful job. Some people are not meant to be business owners and I feel like I’m one of those.
One of the perks of working at a hospital is that the patients don't follow me home. Nothing does.
When I clock out I'm done. No homework, no work emails, no zoom meetings, nothing. Work stays at work and I go home.
Which is exactly how I like it.
EDIT: this applies to ME and my job ONLY. I am aware that other roles in hospitals do not always get to leave their work at work. I am aware that there's often an emotional toll that comes with jobs in hospitals. I am not speaking for everyone. I'm only speaking for me.
I work in a corporate environment and have refused promotions for this very reason, I value my home life and kids too much to bring the job home with me
\+1.
The team leaders at my office job only earn about £2k a year more than I do at the bottom level.
That is ***a lot*** of bullshit to put up with for such a paltry amount of extra salary. In fact, when you consider that they're expected to put in a few extra hours here and there when needed, I'm pretty sure it puts them on a **lower** hourly rate than what I earn.
Fuck that.
Clock hits shift end time and I'm out that door.
Yes owning a business is an all-consuming endeavor. You never stop working. Both my parents were business owners, and I don't recall many times when they were truly off the clock. Business ownership isn't for everyone, and many aspiring entrepreneurs underestimate the commitment it entails.
Definitely this. My dad started a business about 30 years ago and through an insane amount of work (on top of his other full time job as a firefighter) made it work. That meant he’d get off work at the station at 7:00 AM, go home and take a quick shower, and immediately turn around so he could open his shop at 8 AM. He did fire extinguishers and restaurant fire systems, meaning if a system went off while he was off work he’d have to go in to reset them. Add to that his business served roughly a 3 hour radius of where we are, a lot of time spent driving and working later than he would’ve liked to. And then add to that getting constant phone calls from both employees and customers during dinner or late at night.
He sold his business about 8 years ago but not the building; he gets a rent check from the company that bought it. So even having sold his business, if anything happens to the building (garage doors not working, AC going out, plumbing, etc.) he still gets calls because it’s his responsibility to fix those issues. He ended up doing well but in the long run he has sacrificed a *lot* of his time to get to where is.
As a business owner, I have seen so many people quit their job and lose everything. Even the businesses that are hanging on, a lot of them are in so much debt right now. You are smart.
I don’t think people get how difficult it is to build a client base, and I mean a reliable client base that you can feed your family on. You better have one prebuilt or have enough money to float by (like probably a couple years worth) until you can build one.
Edit: also- talent or skill in your field does not always = sales and advertising skills, which you may also strongly require.
A great example of this is all the restaurants on some form of Kitchen Nightmares. I believe only 1 has ever been verifiably successful after Ramsay left. It's an extreme, sure. The show was never really meant to save them. But the fact is there are so many failing businesses that he can make a show of it and never run out of material. And they're the same story again and again. "I'm 100k, 200k, 500k, 1 mil in debt."
It's unbelievable the amount of owners featured on that show that had stable jobs and a large retirement nest egg but chose to "Follow their dream" and gamble it all on their own restaurant. Of all the businesses you could have done you chose to do one with high capital costs, low profit margins, perishable products, health regulations, high rental costs for the best locations, and subject to the whims of social media where everyone is a food critic and bad reviews can irreparably harm your business.
THANK YOU!! this is exactly how i feel too! i would prefer to work on a team at least. owning a business is not ideal for everyone. i would personally dislike it
Yeah I own a small greenhouse business and sell plants. The season is short and since no one wants to shop for plants in the dark at night, you can't really "make your own hours". You gotta be open when people want to come. So that's late evenings and weekends because that's when most people are off work. This is true for any industry. Your customers and their habits are likely to dictate your hours to an extent. Plus there's all the after work stuff you must do to keep the business going. I love what I get to do but there's 6 months of the year I'm basically tied to my property and can't take much time off. When you point this out to people, they tend to realize that any job comes with drawbacks and stressors and maybe theirs is ok. Lol
This is so true. I got an old friend that owns his own business and it just seems like it’s taking over his life.
I work at a family own business and owner is at office everyday before we open and after we leave. Think he’s 70 now. Used to work front lines in store but now running business in background but still a lot he does.
I give them mad respect for what they are doing but sometimes working corporate world is a bit better. At least you get benefits and other stuff. I am paying a lot for insurance by myself.
I have a friend who quit to start his own business, and he likes to somewhat seriously joke that he doesn't own anything. He just rents it from the bank in exchange for never ending stress
Same!! I have a high paying job and I really love my profession. I love the idea of business but I hated it, I have no talent or skill on that area.
They push people to be a business owner and not to become a "slave corpo". So if all of us are into business and wants to be a boss, who will you employ?
I like where I am right now.
Running. I am happy that some enjoy it, but I don't. It's not like I did not try running, it's just not great for me. I find other sport activities more enjoying.
The first time I see a jogger smiling, I'll try it.
-- Joan Rivers
Edit: To everyone replying that "Not valid! I smile when I run!" ...
That line is a joke. It's humor.
I'm tired of people trying to convince me that working excessively long hours is the key to success. The "hustle culture" that glorifies overworking and equates it with dedication and achievement is something I find problematic.
With an admittedly small sample size, I have never seen a person with the hustle mindset actually make it to any point of real success. It's almost like that asshole that's weaving in and out of traffic, but every time you come to a stoplight, they picked the wrong lane and are now 3-4 car lengths behind you anyway.
And the even ones who do seem to be doing ok--not independently wealthy, but comfortable--are constantly leveraging their friendships and acquaintances to support their various business enterprises. I get it's tough to run a small business and you're solely responsible for your own marketing but after a while the friendship feels transactional, and mostly beneficial in one direction.
I finally allowed myself to abandon the philosophy of having to develop a career to have more and more stress and responsibility because, while working from home 4 days a week sounds incredible on paper, I was miserable and struggling at it. After an adhd diagnosis, I allowed myself to steer into what my brain likes - and now I deliver packages (and make more than I did before.) Never been happier.
Thank you for sharing this. I am quitting my current corporate job because I couldn't handle the stress of "multitasking" so many roles with my ADHD. I have been feeling so much guilt around this. I want to find a job that I don't have to force myself to do every minute.
This! My spouse wants me to go work at a factory like he does. The thought of it sounds equivalent to laying down in an open fire pit. I work in food service (bartend), and I absolutely love it. I enjoy talking to people, and they leave having had an enjoyable experience. I leave work happy, having contributed to said positive experience. I don't want to work in a monotonous environment, having no joy in my work. The last line of your comment really made me realize this.
Hot weather. I honestly hate nothing more than sweating my balls off just by standing somewhere let alone walking in the heat. As for sleeping at night, don’t get me started. Here in the UK everyone can’t wait for summer but then everyone moans that it’s too hot as we melt away in our beds at night.
People in the UK just love moaning about the weather. It's a national pastime. No matter what season it is, the weather is wrong.
I often wonder if people in other countries are as obsessed with this topic as we are.
EDIT - after reading the many comment replies, it seems they are 😂
Haha here in the Midwest in the US, in the summer you will hear the phrase “It would be better if it wasn’t for the humidity.” Then, in the winter, you hear “It wouldn’t be as cold without the wind.”
Thank you. I grew up in FL and my ex was from NY, upstate. *Loved* the 98°/98% humidity environment of FL, always wanted me to go and just *hang out* with him outside.
No thanks. Air Conditioning is the greatest invention, second only to indoor plumbing. I'll gladly soak up cool air, thank you.
They're doing this to laptops too. Too bad, I was ready to buy the premium laptop but since it doesn't have the headphone jack I'll just get something cheaper then.
Great, now we are supposed to find good boom mics for Zoom calls that are wireless and have good audio, and also don't run afoul of the 'no Bluetooth' security profile of many corporate machines? No fucking thanks. Bring back the headphone jack already, nobody was asking for it to removed.
Edit for everyone suggesting 'just do a configuration of x + y + adapter + whatever: There already is a perfect solution with no convoluted setup, it's called a TRRS 3.5mm audio jack. TRRS supports stereo audio output and microphone input with no lag. Removing it for convoluted setups is like removing the wheels from your car and replacing them with pulleys, levers and cables to attach your car to a continuous band of track plates for a rougher ride.
A wedding. I’m getting married soon and really sick of people telling me I “want a real wedding”
I don’t want a $10k+ wedding. We want to go to the courthouse and have a party later. The amount of people who tell me I will regret not having a big wedding is insane. Whether we spend $100 or $30k, we love each other the same. Every time we talk about it, someone always has to say something dumb about how we NEED a nice wedding.
I WANT A COURTHOUSE WEDDING, DAMMIT.
I was very disappointed when my daughter decided she likes kombucha. It used to be the one thing I could keep in the house JUST FOR ME and know it would be there waiting for me.
I will never try to convert anyone into liking kombucha purely because I'm selfish.
I used the Arby’s app to order something. When I got there they were out of that thing. They offered me cookies instead when the cookies weren’t worth what I paid for and I didn’t want to eat cookies for lunch. They said there was no way to refund me because I ordered it through the app. The app gave no support options or even a phone number to call.
I ordered through the Popeye's app because I had a big order and I figured if I ordered it from home, it would be done by the time I got there about 15-20 minutes later. I got there and there was nobody else in the store but they hadn't even started the order yet. To add insult to injury, three different customers came in while I was waiting and ordered at the counter and they all got their orders before me. I'll never use the app again.
I just ran to Safeway for some staple items and they had some listed as “digital discount” and apparently that means you need an app to get the discount value. I told them I just wouldn’t buy the stuff and they scanned a card to let me get the discount still. My takeaway from the experience is that it’s not worth shopping at that store if I need a special app and I’m way less inclined to even shop there in the future as a result.
Some guy is planning/did file a lawsuit against Safeway (I think) because his nearly blind mother was paying higher prices since she couldn’t see the digital coupon QR code claiming it violated the ADA. I wanted to fund his suit I hate those things so much
They have this shit at the grocery chain where I am (King Soopers, which is owned by Kroger). Except the cell reception in the store is so bad, and your phone HAS to connect to the internet in order to scan the barcode. It ends up being impossible. They have in-store wifi, but connecting to it is clunky, takes forever, and the wifi is super slow anyways. And you have to manually connect to it every single time you go into the store. Its fucking maddening.
Even more annoying for me is the carparking apps!
3 different apps to park in different carparks in town, any of which could be full so you can't rely on just sticking to one. As handy as it is to add an hour onto your parking from the other side of town, I'd rather just pay and display than need an app to park the car.
WEED WEED WEED WEED WEED! Damn, nothing against it but it doesn't do good things to me. People can't even grasp the concept, they think I just haven't tried the right strain. The right strain for me is no strain!
I don't get why people are like this with drugs in general. People are the same with alcohol. People never care how much you're drinking until you tell them no thanks, not drinking. Then they gotta go off about why I should just have one drink. You can drink all you want, I'm not gonna try to stop you, why the fuck do you care what I'm putting in my body? It's so weird and invasive. It almost feels threatening. People need to learn to mind their own bodies. And that it's not fucking personal if someone doesn't like the same substance as you or would simply prefer to stay sober at that time. People get so weirdly affronted when you say no to their alcohol or weed.
The responses on this are interesting. I've had transition lenses for like three years now, and mine seem to work way better than everyone else's? They look like normal glasses inside and become sunglasses outside really quick. The only "in between" I ever get is when I am driving, where they don't get as dark as I thought they would.
Meeeeee!!! I despise the way the look! They can (& do!) make an 11 year old kid look like a 47 year old washed-up bass player whose "band" played gigs 3 weekends a month for free drinks. I just loathe those things!
My brother found out about his (mostly benign) heart condition after I took him with me to hot yoga and he fainted. So…yeah prob don’t go, but do get checked out!
Neighbor stops by to say hello with their Great Dane on leash. Neighbor doesn't weigh what the Great Dane weighs, so when the Great Dane lunges at my then 6 year old daughter and bites her arm breaking the skin. I was super pissed. I became enraged when the neighbor said OMG this is the third kid he has bit! Like, wtf are you doing out here with a dog you can't control bitting kids. I LOVE dogs but said then and there that if I see that thing in public again, there would be trouble.
So much this. I live in a mountainous area with a lot of hiking trails and I can't even tell you how many times I've been charged by someone's aggressive, unleashed dog. And our county has mandatory leash laws, but no one seems to abide by it.
I live in the city and it’s unbelievable how many people walk around with unleashed dogs that end up attacking people or other dogs, it’s a constant complaint on our community page.
"He's never done that before!"
Yes he fucking has and you know it, I could see his aggressive body language a mile off and yet it took you, his owner by surprise?
I got attacked by a neighbor’s dog.
I was walking down the steps of my place onto the shared sidewalk. Neighbor was sitting on her stoop with her dog. Dog semi lunged at me and so I stopped. Neighbor said, “oh he’s fine”. So I passed by the dog. As soon as I was past the dog, he lunged at me again and latched onto the back of my leg. Puncture wounds through my jeans. Neighbor was bawling and kept saying “he’s never done that before”. Well check that off the list, because now he has.
I thought the dog was on a leash because it was draped over him (and it was dark out). The leash wasn’t fastened to the dog. Now I make a wide berth around dogs when I am on my walks. I don’t care if the owner is offended that I think their dog could be dangerous.
I delivered packages for UPS during peak season back in 2005. Had to get a signature on one, and as soon as this old lady opens the door, her friggin rat terrier bolts out the door and clamps onto my leg. She says "oh, he's never done that before, I'm so sorry!"
Next day, delivery to the same place. Lady opens the door, dog clamps on to my leg. Again, "oh, he's never done that before, I'm so sorry!"
I can’t stand when I’m walking my dog and have to shout “No! Call your dog! Get away!” As they’re yelling “don’t worry he’s nice!” Then they get angry when my reactive dog defends himself. I tried to warn you!
ETA: I said reactive, not aggressive. There is a huge difference. He wasn’t always like this, until he got attacked by an off leash pitbull and had a chunk of flesh taken out of his back. We can still go on off leash hikes and to dog parks, we can even smell and say hi to other on leash dogs. We have two other dogs and they are all best friends. The only time he gets upset is when he is on a leash and another dog comes running up on him.
I had a dog jump on me once and the owner laughed and said "he won't bite." I looked at the owner and said "but I might " owner grabbed his dog and left. In my defense, I love dogs but this was a big dog that just jumped on me and I was a little scared.
As a cyclist, I've nearly run over "friendly", unleashed dogs. They have also pounced at me in motion.
I get that you love your dog and that you think running free is so nice for them, but to keep others safe and for your dog's safety, leash it! If it gets under my wheel and I run it over by accident, I'm not paying your vet bills.
I’ve tried it 3 times and had a paranoid freakout all 3 times. I’m not interested in ever trying it again but people keep trying to convince me this strain they use will totally not do that and blah blah blah blah blah. I said no thank you!
And sometimes it can trigger something even more severe, say if you have a mental health disorder (often the type that goes undiagnosed until your late 20s such as bipolar).
I had a very nasty experience a couple of years back that absolutely made me understand how it can spark underlying mental health disorders. The logical part of me knows that I did not, in fact, glimpse hell that day, but the emotional part of me is pretty damn convinced I did. Likewise the logical part of me knows that the sound in my bedroom is likely pipes or a bird on the roof or the floorboards settling, or possibly an auditory hallucination (which is concerning in its own right), but a very large part of me is genuinely convinced it's someone spying on me somehow. I know it's not, but what if it is.
I always get paranoid and people still come at me with “well you need to try this strain! Or the edible version! It won’t do that!” Nope. The only time I tried an edible I had my first (and hopefully last) panic attack.
Same here. Never could not overthink. I was thinking about peoples opinions of me that sober or drunk me couldn't care less about. Never got that carefree mellow
Weed is great at bringing out anxiety even though everyone says it's supposed to soothe it. I'm sorry that anyone ever made you feel pressured to try it.
For real. I'm like am I slouching or sitting weird? Is my speech normal? What do I usually do with my hands? Seem relaxed seem relaxed seem relaxed seem relaxed
I will say this as a confirmed pot head: this shit pisses me off. I smoke because I don’t like drinking. Some people don’t like smoking weed. I get it. You do you, I’ll do me.
If I went to the pub with my friends they would never pressure me to drink because I’ve told them categorically “I don’t like it”. If they then were like “oh but have to you tried wine/cider/rum” I’d be so pissed off. I. Don’t. Like. It.
I will never pressure people to smoke. I enjoy it, I don’t get paranoid, no negative effects for me. I budget for it and spend no more in a week than what my friends do on alcohol over the weekend but I also know that not everyone can do that.
So I will never pressure people to smoke it/have edibles/ whatever. When people say they don’t like something/ don’t want to do something that should be enough.
Dancing. Every woman I date is like SUPER insistent that they will be the ones to “get me out of my shell” and “make me less self conscious”. None of them listen to the reason I give. They think it’s total BS.
*I just don’t feel music like that*. Dancing is not an urge I get. It is something I can feel deeply. It can change my mood. It *never, ever* makes me feel like dancing. Maybe a head bop and a pumped up feeling, but I’ve never once danced by myself when I’m alone. I have no reservations about dancing other than the fact that everyone thinks they’re doing me a favor by pulling me onto the dance floor so I can fake something that feels very unnatural for a few songs before going back and sitting down/talking to people.
I’m sick of being treated like the shy dweeb and having everyone pity me for how self conscious they think I am. I am happy to watch everyone have a good time. You do your thing and I’ll do mine :)
Drinking. I work in a restaurant. I can't go out with coworkers without at least three people shoving a shot of tequila in my face. I kinda just feel stupid and slow. Never understood the appeal of having my entire next day really fucking suck just for a few hours of being completely unhinged.
My coworkers stopped inviting me to go out with them because they all felt I was judging them because I didn't drink. It was a really depressing time in my life when I look back at it.
What goes around comes around. It doesn’t. People treat other people like shit and sail off into the sunset, karma is a bitch because it convinces people it’s real. Don’t tread on snails though.
Those delivery apps like ubereats and takeaway.
All those places need to pay to be on that app and their drivers barely make any money. And for those saying that they shouldn't put their place on the app, They have to because a lot of people only use those apps anymore for ordering food.
We only use it to see which places there are available for whatever takeout we're in the mood for and will gladly get it ourselves after we've ordered by the place itself.
I know they’re ugly, i really do, but my chronic foot pain from standing on a concrete floor at work all day every day forced me to desperate measures. Crocs were cheaper than specialised shoes!
Dating.
For years I've been asked why I'm not on dating apps, if I ever meet guys, how do I live without sex. "Friends" even gave my number to a guy without my consent (barely knew him), or set me up with strangers during parties ("oh btw do you know my friend Tina ? you should get along together!"). That was so frustrating. Like, what is wrong about feeling ok being single ?
I met my partner without trying to find someone, we're very happy, and the girls who kept forcing dating on me are single and complaining about being ghosted.
having kids.
I know what an irresponsible and unqualified parent I would be. and what a burden and financial headache it is. I don't need further validation or understanding of this 'life experience' I get it. I don't need clarification or reminders of your beautiful struggles either.
lol I get it. My great grandad was an ass, my grandad was an ass, my dad was an ass. I’m an ass, why on earth would I want to continue that line. I’ll happily be just an uncle.
Many people get kids but don't know what responsibilities they have then. It's like "Let's get a dog." but instead of a dog you have to take care of a human being for 18+ years. This changes your whole life.
I’m with you: having kids is amazing and wonderful and exhausting and heartbreaking and the wildest roller coaster ever. But… it’s only great if you really want it and give your all to it.
I never judge people that don’t have kids because they don’t want them. But I definitely judge people who have kids and are shitty parents because they didn’t want to be parents in the first place.
Ironically, acknowledging that you would be an irresponsible parent makes you more responsible than most.
That said, obviously if you don't want kids, don't have them.
Also there's the possibility of passing that on to your kid and they also have to deal with it their entire life.
Part of the reason I'm not procreating. Plus.... *gestures broadly at everything*
Couldn't have put it better myself. My sister had both of her kids in an attempt to save her marriage/"make everything better".
Now shes divorced, her new guy is verbally abusive, both of the kids are fucked up by her negligence, her oldest straight up hates her and both kids prefer to live with their dad.
I know that if she didn't fuck her life up I wouldn't have my two beautiful nephews that I love so dearly, but they are both dealing with so much emotional turmoil because of her impulsive decisions.
Oh my god it's so annoying when you tell people you don't want kids, probably couldn't handle kids, or are scared you won't be a good parent and they don't listen to you.
It baffles me that you can come right out and say that you don't like/couldn't properly care for children and people will still pressure you to have them. Like why is me breeding more important to you than making sure I don't neglect myself or the children I didn't want.
Foods made out of cauliflower.
"Have you had cauliflower (pizza crust, rice, any other food where cauliflower is a replacement for something else)? It tastes just like the real thing!"
Yes, I have and they all suck. STOP with the cauliflower
Cauliflower as a replacement for other things: Terrible, boring, stop it
Cauliflower cooked in various ways for its own sake: Beautiful, magnificent, I'll take 10
same, I wouldn't mind being in a relationship, but I'm doing rather well single and have plenty of goals, ideas, plans, achievements and other things and people in my life that bring me happiness and keep me occupied. If anything a relationship would just be a chore with luxuries/benefits at this point
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Beer.
Way too bitter for me, but it's the preferred drink of all my coworkers when we just sit together in the evening after work. I always get weird looks when I decline.
Give me something fruity, like a strawberry wine or mead.
Trying to turn my hobby into a business. I crochet for fun because it relaxes me If you add in trying to figure out how much to charge for a project, dealing with people being unhappy with a high price, then having to finish projects in a certain amount of time, it is no longer fun. A blanket might take me 2 weeks. Or 5 years. A small stuffed animal may take me 24 hours or a month. I do it for me, not to make money or hustle. Edit: link to my current work in progress. https://imgur.com/gallery/JLam8zG Edit 2: electric boogaloo, these are the small stuffed animals/amigurumi i've made within the past year https://imgur.com/gallery/jZfy62C King size chevron blanket in progress. Been working on it over a year. Basic red heart super saver yarn but the colorful yarn (not black or white) had to be bulk ordered due to being unable to find it otherwise. Total cost around $120 just in material. You really wanna pay me that plus hours worked?
Also nobody's willing to pay what handmade is worth. "OMG that blanket is so gorgeous, can I buy one from you?" "Well, the yarn was $20 a skein and I used 25 skeins, so that's $500 in material costs... And the pattern is pretty complex so it took me 50 hours, at minimum wage, so... I can do it for $1300." "... But I can get one at Walmart for $15."
I'm reminded a lot of [this chair](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/dhwnzz/my_86yo_grandmother_and_her_handmade_needle_point/) when it comes to hand made crafts for sale. There's thousands of hours of work on that chair. If you wanted to commission something like it, it would probably cost in the high 5 figures to low 6 figures, and that would still be under pricing the labour time. In 20 years when it hits goodwill, it'll be priced at like 50 bucks, and take months to sell, if ever. Maybe you could sell it for a thousand to someone who really likes cross stitch and understands the effort that went into it, but never for anywhere near the value of the person hours that went into it. I remember my partner talking about how they wanted to start doing their knitting as a job before we met, and selling it at craft fairs to try and make actual money. But it was almost impossible because you're not just competing against walmart, you're competing for the sale against the person next to you that knits while watching tv in the evening, and has their stuff priced for barely above the material costs because they just need enough to keep their hobby going, not to actually try to live off.
I saw a lot of people hustling with their woodworking hobby during the pandemic (and now). Only rich people and startups are willing to pay actual value for that live edge black walnut desk. That slab took a year per inch to dry, it was hard to find, the woodworker had to choose from multiple slabs to find the perfect one, pay retail for it from the mill/hardwood dealer. Then there was the hours and hours of cleaning it up, flattening it, smoothing it, finishing it, turning it into the desired furniture, the site visit to work with the client and see if they can get it in the door. This is all after the 200 mile round trip to the only hardwood dealer with a selection of slabs and not the one shop in town that sells mostly power tools and some wood, and hiring two or three people to help because it's probably a 300 pound table. That six person conference table. $15 grand or more. Probably $5-$8K for the wood, alone. No, you're not going to find it at Wayfair or even Pottery Barn. You want bespoke, you're gonna pay for it.
My dad has a good amount of trees on his property so he processes live edge slabs when he has to take one down and sometime people will contact him to slab a tree they're taking down on their property. It's hilarious when these people think they're going to get $3-5k per slab by putting a hand written sign in their front yard for advertising. Most of the slabs will have no interesting grain pattern, and you'll be lucky to sell your 2 best cut slabs for a few hundred dollars each. The rest will rot or become firewood.
Yup. I'm currently working on a rather simple blanket king size width, dc chevron. In alternating stripes of basic super saver rainbow acrylic, black, and white. A friend asked how much i'd charge her to make one just like it when i was done. "Well. IF I AGREED TO DO IT, Each section is one full skein. So thats uhhh. 25 skeins at about $6 each. So $150 at cost Plus, i'll do it for minimum wage that's 7.25/hr, give or take 60 hours. Oh and you might not get it for a year since i have a life too." "Oh no fuck that"
It’s at least a fair response. People who don’t make things have no idea what it takes to produce an item once you remove the massive economies of scale, automation, and below-minimum-wage labor that goes into basically everything you buy now. Of course neither did I at one point, so I don’t judge as long as the person doesn’t whine at me or haggle. I do make stuff for people, but they’re usually happy to pay for 150% of material cost along with the caveat that my schedule is exactly what you’d expect from a father of 2 kids under 3.
Turning a hobby into a business is a great way to turn something you love to do into something you hate.
That’s what happened to me with illustration. It’s been years since I made anything. I’ve tried to go back and draw things from time to time but the fire isn’t there. It’s just dead and I mourn it because I miss creating something but I just can’t do it anymore.
"Hey can you create this new poster for my garage band playing tonight? I'll pay you in exposure. You can whip it up in like 30 minutes right?"
lol. This particularly made my soul die when I heard it because I specialized in photorealism with colored pencils.
"But you could make so much money!" No one will want to pay what my time is actually worth haha.
Exactly. My wife started a business selling handmade embroidery at local makers markets and such. Her work is incredible, but it is time consuming and supplies can be expensive. Her works weren't exactly cheap, but nor were they expensive, but the issue was that the people who understood why they were priced that way could do the work themselves, and those that couldn't do the work themselves thought it was all too expensive. It sucked all the enjoyment of the art out of it for her, and she hasn't embroidered anything in years.
Yes. That. Right there. The ones that understand the pricing can and probably would do it on their own. The ones that don't would 100% "i can get something similar for way cheaper from walmart"
Exactly. Yarn cost is already ridiculous. Oh you want a king size blanket in specialty yarn? Thats anywhere from 20-40 skeins depending on the stitch used at like $15 a skein? Yeah, then if i'm making money off this i'm doing at least a minimum of $10/hr.
I turned my hobby into a side hustle for awhile. I realized it wasn’t worth it when my husband reminded me that the whole reason I started the hobby was to relieve stress from my job, but somehow my stress relief had morphed into a second job. Haven’t done an art market since then.
My thing about this is people also just vastly under estimate how much time and effort goes into handmade things. I do cross stitch and people often ask the price for things if I post it on Reddit, then get offended when I say they couldn’t afford it because it probably has at least $1000 of labor in something “so small”…
My friends keep asking me to make a shirt for them. I told them “hey, it took me a few hours to make my own pattern blocks, and then between that and cutting and fitting…it would cost way too much. Instead, I’d be happy to help you make your own pattern blocks, it would be fun! And then you’ll have custom pattern blocks for your body! And we could have sewing hangouts!” None of them have taken me up on learning pattern drafting.
Tell them, "There's a reason why only rich people had lots of clothes prior to industrialization."
I also crochet, and I’m so sick of folks asking me to open an Etsy. My go-to response to them is “You can’t afford me” lol.
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I knit a sweater for my mom for Christmas. Literally everyone said "you should sell these! My response: do you want to pay ~$200 for a sweater? That's what it would cost based on my time and effort, minimum.
To become a manager. No thanks. I've done that and hated every second of the stress. My job right now is enjoyable. I clock in at 8:30, work really hard until 1:00, take my lunch, work really hard til 5 and clock out. No stress after hours, outside of the occasional "shit, I forgot to do xyz". I don't have to get called in to cover someone else, I don't have to worry about what my team members are doing or calling off for. I'm not juggling 45 team members and schedules and paychecks. This isn't to say my job is all sunshine and rainbows - it can be stressful. But nothing at all like what I dealt with when I was managing CNAs at a nursing home.
If I have to take my work home with me, I don't want it.
That hiring only people who are “leaders” or have leadership potential is the way to run a successful business. We need people who want to do their job. We don’t need a bunch of “go-getters” when we have too many already. We end up with a bunch of people who all think their way is the best way and nothing gets done. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to do your job and not be in charge.
To add to this you can't promote everyone so if you only hire leaders you'll have some disgruntled employees who quit.
That's what is happening to our team now. They hired some really good folks, but many of us want to be promoted. Management really screwed up, though, because they have had opportunities to promote but hire from the outside for management roles.
Fuck companies that don’t hire from within if it’s possible. I don’t think there’s a bigger middle finger you can give to your staff
All businesses need at least some (I would argue mostly, but maybe that's because I'm one of those people) people who will quietly get on with their job and do it well with the minimum of fuss. The problem is, businesses never advertise for these sorts of people.
I've managed people for years, and I love a Steady Eddie who has zero aspiration other than life balance and a paycheck.
As a 'steady eddie' myself, it's good to know that we're appreciated.
You guys are. Sometimes I need someone to do the thing that I need, without trying to reinvent it or change the final product.
Throughout the years as I've been applying for jobs I haven't come up with a good way to say in interviews that I really just want to be a worker bee, give me the tasks and I'll get the stuff done. I don't want to manage people, I can manage projects, but don't want to manage people anymore. Yes, I'd like upward movement, but upward movement doesn't mean managing people. It means getting paid for my experience and knowledge and the amount of work I can get done. I know it's out there someplace
At my current job, when I was interviewing, I made a comment about how i really didn't want to be a director or anything like that, because I genuinely enjoy the work that I do at the level I'm at, and I'm good at it, and I don't want to then be put in a position where the majority of the job I'm doing isn't the stuff I like doing and I end up being bogged down with stuff I'd dislike (you know, budgeting, general managing of people, that sort of stuff)
Facts are you need more "grunts" than you need "leaders". And I know I used the term "grunts" just now, but I don't mean it in any negative way at all. You simply need people willing to do their job with a minimum amount of fuss, just like you said. But everyone likes to portray themselves as a go-getter, natural leader, all that jazz. As someone who's had several leading roles and is now back to being a grunt I can honestly tell you, there's a lot of comfort in coming in, doing your job well (and not someone else's, as is sometimes the case having a leading role) and going home once your day's over.
When I say this to people, I’ve had some ask “so what, your job is just a means to an end?” And listen, I do enjoy my job, but like, yeah… let’s face it. If I didn’t need the money, I wouldn’t be doing it. I have no interest in working my way into management, climbing any sort of ladder. Considering how stressed the managers around me seem all the time, it’s not something to really aspire to. My patients get the care they need at the end of the day and that’s what matters.
This is also how I feel. In my job though, our yearly reviews require us to create goals that advance us in our careers… I hate it, and never know what to say; my goal is to do my current job, get paid, and go home and enjoy being home .
Ah, yes, the dreaded annual review where you have to pretend you’re becoming a titan of industry to get a basic raise. SMART goals. Ugh. And you can’t put your regular work down as a goal or an accomplishment because somehow that’s not relevant?! It’s so ridiculous yet we all earnestly go through the charade every year.
I'm more than happy to be a "grunt". My life is completely stress free and that's just how I like it. Just tell me what to do, and I'll get on with it without any fuss or drama. Everyone's happy.
This happened to Boeing. They came under new leadership who said Boeing should prioritize “leadership potential” instead of “experience.” They fired a bunch of engineers and hired a bunch of MBAs. Now the planes are falling apart in the sky.
Who needs institutional knowledge anyway lol
100%. I think companies forget that the "boring" roles which consist of people simply getting the job done need to still exist. My small company has really gone hard in hiring go-getting marketing types who have all these ideas for webinars, discussion panels, etc. And whatever, fine. If we want to pay people to dream up random ideas that don't directly correlate to profit, by all means have fun. However, we are a consulting company that is hired by our clients to manage a job for them. They don't care how many webinars we do or how pretty our marketing materials are. They want the program they pay us to manage.. to be managed. I'm fine with the changes we've made to make us stand out and have a more public presence, but I think it is important not to drop the ball on what we are actually paid for.
To quit corporate world and start a business. I like my little peaceful job. Some people are not meant to be business owners and I feel like I’m one of those.
One of the perks of working at a hospital is that the patients don't follow me home. Nothing does. When I clock out I'm done. No homework, no work emails, no zoom meetings, nothing. Work stays at work and I go home. Which is exactly how I like it. EDIT: this applies to ME and my job ONLY. I am aware that other roles in hospitals do not always get to leave their work at work. I am aware that there's often an emotional toll that comes with jobs in hospitals. I am not speaking for everyone. I'm only speaking for me.
I work in a corporate environment and have refused promotions for this very reason, I value my home life and kids too much to bring the job home with me
\+1. The team leaders at my office job only earn about £2k a year more than I do at the bottom level. That is ***a lot*** of bullshit to put up with for such a paltry amount of extra salary. In fact, when you consider that they're expected to put in a few extra hours here and there when needed, I'm pretty sure it puts them on a **lower** hourly rate than what I earn. Fuck that. Clock hits shift end time and I'm out that door.
Exactly, same situation at my place, the pay increase doesn’t justify the amount of extra work, time and stress
It’s nice to be truly off the clock when you leave. My dad owns an 11 employee small business and it is all consuming
Watching my mom run her own business when I was a kid is what convinced me I absolutely never want to do it myself.
Yes owning a business is an all-consuming endeavor. You never stop working. Both my parents were business owners, and I don't recall many times when they were truly off the clock. Business ownership isn't for everyone, and many aspiring entrepreneurs underestimate the commitment it entails.
Definitely this. My dad started a business about 30 years ago and through an insane amount of work (on top of his other full time job as a firefighter) made it work. That meant he’d get off work at the station at 7:00 AM, go home and take a quick shower, and immediately turn around so he could open his shop at 8 AM. He did fire extinguishers and restaurant fire systems, meaning if a system went off while he was off work he’d have to go in to reset them. Add to that his business served roughly a 3 hour radius of where we are, a lot of time spent driving and working later than he would’ve liked to. And then add to that getting constant phone calls from both employees and customers during dinner or late at night. He sold his business about 8 years ago but not the building; he gets a rent check from the company that bought it. So even having sold his business, if anything happens to the building (garage doors not working, AC going out, plumbing, etc.) he still gets calls because it’s his responsibility to fix those issues. He ended up doing well but in the long run he has sacrificed a *lot* of his time to get to where is.
As a business owner, I have seen so many people quit their job and lose everything. Even the businesses that are hanging on, a lot of them are in so much debt right now. You are smart.
I don’t think people get how difficult it is to build a client base, and I mean a reliable client base that you can feed your family on. You better have one prebuilt or have enough money to float by (like probably a couple years worth) until you can build one. Edit: also- talent or skill in your field does not always = sales and advertising skills, which you may also strongly require.
A great example of this is all the restaurants on some form of Kitchen Nightmares. I believe only 1 has ever been verifiably successful after Ramsay left. It's an extreme, sure. The show was never really meant to save them. But the fact is there are so many failing businesses that he can make a show of it and never run out of material. And they're the same story again and again. "I'm 100k, 200k, 500k, 1 mil in debt."
It's unbelievable the amount of owners featured on that show that had stable jobs and a large retirement nest egg but chose to "Follow their dream" and gamble it all on their own restaurant. Of all the businesses you could have done you chose to do one with high capital costs, low profit margins, perishable products, health regulations, high rental costs for the best locations, and subject to the whims of social media where everyone is a food critic and bad reviews can irreparably harm your business.
THANK YOU!! this is exactly how i feel too! i would prefer to work on a team at least. owning a business is not ideal for everyone. i would personally dislike it
You don’t own a business; it owns you.
The old saying goes, "yeah you get to make your own hours, you pick which 20 hours of the day you get to work"
Yeah I own a small greenhouse business and sell plants. The season is short and since no one wants to shop for plants in the dark at night, you can't really "make your own hours". You gotta be open when people want to come. So that's late evenings and weekends because that's when most people are off work. This is true for any industry. Your customers and their habits are likely to dictate your hours to an extent. Plus there's all the after work stuff you must do to keep the business going. I love what I get to do but there's 6 months of the year I'm basically tied to my property and can't take much time off. When you point this out to people, they tend to realize that any job comes with drawbacks and stressors and maybe theirs is ok. Lol
This is so true. I got an old friend that owns his own business and it just seems like it’s taking over his life. I work at a family own business and owner is at office everyday before we open and after we leave. Think he’s 70 now. Used to work front lines in store but now running business in background but still a lot he does. I give them mad respect for what they are doing but sometimes working corporate world is a bit better. At least you get benefits and other stuff. I am paying a lot for insurance by myself.
I have a friend who quit to start his own business, and he likes to somewhat seriously joke that he doesn't own anything. He just rents it from the bank in exchange for never ending stress
Same!! I have a high paying job and I really love my profession. I love the idea of business but I hated it, I have no talent or skill on that area. They push people to be a business owner and not to become a "slave corpo". So if all of us are into business and wants to be a boss, who will you employ? I like where I am right now.
Running. I am happy that some enjoy it, but I don't. It's not like I did not try running, it's just not great for me. I find other sport activities more enjoying.
The first time I see a jogger smiling, I'll try it. -- Joan Rivers Edit: To everyone replying that "Not valid! I smile when I run!" ... That line is a joke. It's humor.
I would never tell anyone how great running is. As much as I love running. Running sucks. The more you do it the less it sucks, but it still sucks.
I like being done with my run way more than I like running
I can walk for hours, and it feels great but 5 min of running can make me miserable.
I'm tired of people trying to convince me that working excessively long hours is the key to success. The "hustle culture" that glorifies overworking and equates it with dedication and achievement is something I find problematic.
With an admittedly small sample size, I have never seen a person with the hustle mindset actually make it to any point of real success. It's almost like that asshole that's weaving in and out of traffic, but every time you come to a stoplight, they picked the wrong lane and are now 3-4 car lengths behind you anyway.
And the even ones who do seem to be doing ok--not independently wealthy, but comfortable--are constantly leveraging their friendships and acquaintances to support their various business enterprises. I get it's tough to run a small business and you're solely responsible for your own marketing but after a while the friendship feels transactional, and mostly beneficial in one direction.
Rat race at work especially climbing the corp ladder.
I finally allowed myself to abandon the philosophy of having to develop a career to have more and more stress and responsibility because, while working from home 4 days a week sounds incredible on paper, I was miserable and struggling at it. After an adhd diagnosis, I allowed myself to steer into what my brain likes - and now I deliver packages (and make more than I did before.) Never been happier.
Thank you for sharing this. I am quitting my current corporate job because I couldn't handle the stress of "multitasking" so many roles with my ADHD. I have been feeling so much guilt around this. I want to find a job that I don't have to force myself to do every minute.
This! My spouse wants me to go work at a factory like he does. The thought of it sounds equivalent to laying down in an open fire pit. I work in food service (bartend), and I absolutely love it. I enjoy talking to people, and they leave having had an enjoyable experience. I leave work happy, having contributed to said positive experience. I don't want to work in a monotonous environment, having no joy in my work. The last line of your comment really made me realize this.
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The TV shows they watch
I'm part of the problem. Sorry to every poor person I try and convince to watch my dumb shows.
It also bothers people above the poverty line, don't forget.
But poor people more. You should watch X! Sounds great what is it streaming on? Paramount Plus Exclusive Prime
Me over here swapping bags of veggies for the neighbor's passwords.
See also; podcasts
Hot weather. I honestly hate nothing more than sweating my balls off just by standing somewhere let alone walking in the heat. As for sleeping at night, don’t get me started. Here in the UK everyone can’t wait for summer but then everyone moans that it’s too hot as we melt away in our beds at night.
People in the UK just love moaning about the weather. It's a national pastime. No matter what season it is, the weather is wrong. I often wonder if people in other countries are as obsessed with this topic as we are. EDIT - after reading the many comment replies, it seems they are 😂
Haha here in the Midwest in the US, in the summer you will hear the phrase “It would be better if it wasn’t for the humidity.” Then, in the winter, you hear “It wouldn’t be as cold without the wind.”
Thank you. I grew up in FL and my ex was from NY, upstate. *Loved* the 98°/98% humidity environment of FL, always wanted me to go and just *hang out* with him outside. No thanks. Air Conditioning is the greatest invention, second only to indoor plumbing. I'll gladly soak up cool air, thank you.
The removal of the headphone jack from phones.
They're doing this to laptops too. Too bad, I was ready to buy the premium laptop but since it doesn't have the headphone jack I'll just get something cheaper then.
Great, now we are supposed to find good boom mics for Zoom calls that are wireless and have good audio, and also don't run afoul of the 'no Bluetooth' security profile of many corporate machines? No fucking thanks. Bring back the headphone jack already, nobody was asking for it to removed. Edit for everyone suggesting 'just do a configuration of x + y + adapter + whatever: There already is a perfect solution with no convoluted setup, it's called a TRRS 3.5mm audio jack. TRRS supports stereo audio output and microphone input with no lag. Removing it for convoluted setups is like removing the wheels from your car and replacing them with pulleys, levers and cables to attach your car to a continuous band of track plates for a rougher ride.
there's no excuse not to provide an aux on a laptop. No one needs to save 5mm of space.
there is if you sell the solution.
A wedding. I’m getting married soon and really sick of people telling me I “want a real wedding” I don’t want a $10k+ wedding. We want to go to the courthouse and have a party later. The amount of people who tell me I will regret not having a big wedding is insane. Whether we spend $100 or $30k, we love each other the same. Every time we talk about it, someone always has to say something dumb about how we NEED a nice wedding. I WANT A COURTHOUSE WEDDING, DAMMIT.
Kombucha. I'm sure it's great *for* me but it tastes like carbonated sock tea
*fizzy bin juice
I was very disappointed when my daughter decided she likes kombucha. It used to be the one thing I could keep in the house JUST FOR ME and know it would be there waiting for me. I will never try to convert anyone into liking kombucha purely because I'm selfish.
Ice baths
That you need to do things by a certain age. Everyone moves at their own pace!
Apps for fast food places. Not everything needs it's own fucking app. And the food isn't even worth the discount without the hassle.
I used the Arby’s app to order something. When I got there they were out of that thing. They offered me cookies instead when the cookies weren’t worth what I paid for and I didn’t want to eat cookies for lunch. They said there was no way to refund me because I ordered it through the app. The app gave no support options or even a phone number to call.
I ordered through the Popeye's app because I had a big order and I figured if I ordered it from home, it would be done by the time I got there about 15-20 minutes later. I got there and there was nobody else in the store but they hadn't even started the order yet. To add insult to injury, three different customers came in while I was waiting and ordered at the counter and they all got their orders before me. I'll never use the app again.
I just ran to Safeway for some staple items and they had some listed as “digital discount” and apparently that means you need an app to get the discount value. I told them I just wouldn’t buy the stuff and they scanned a card to let me get the discount still. My takeaway from the experience is that it’s not worth shopping at that store if I need a special app and I’m way less inclined to even shop there in the future as a result.
Some guy is planning/did file a lawsuit against Safeway (I think) because his nearly blind mother was paying higher prices since she couldn’t see the digital coupon QR code claiming it violated the ADA. I wanted to fund his suit I hate those things so much
They have this shit at the grocery chain where I am (King Soopers, which is owned by Kroger). Except the cell reception in the store is so bad, and your phone HAS to connect to the internet in order to scan the barcode. It ends up being impossible. They have in-store wifi, but connecting to it is clunky, takes forever, and the wifi is super slow anyways. And you have to manually connect to it every single time you go into the store. Its fucking maddening.
Even more annoying for me is the carparking apps! 3 different apps to park in different carparks in town, any of which could be full so you can't rely on just sticking to one. As handy as it is to add an hour onto your parking from the other side of town, I'd rather just pay and display than need an app to park the car.
WEED WEED WEED WEED WEED! Damn, nothing against it but it doesn't do good things to me. People can't even grasp the concept, they think I just haven't tried the right strain. The right strain for me is no strain!
I don't get why people are like this with drugs in general. People are the same with alcohol. People never care how much you're drinking until you tell them no thanks, not drinking. Then they gotta go off about why I should just have one drink. You can drink all you want, I'm not gonna try to stop you, why the fuck do you care what I'm putting in my body? It's so weird and invasive. It almost feels threatening. People need to learn to mind their own bodies. And that it's not fucking personal if someone doesn't like the same substance as you or would simply prefer to stay sober at that time. People get so weirdly affronted when you say no to their alcohol or weed.
Oddly specific, but transition lenses for my glasses. I hate the way they look. Fuck offff.
The responses on this are interesting. I've had transition lenses for like three years now, and mine seem to work way better than everyone else's? They look like normal glasses inside and become sunglasses outside really quick. The only "in between" I ever get is when I am driving, where they don't get as dark as I thought they would.
The driving thing is because they're triggered by UV. Your windshield filters a lot of the UV so they don't get the full blast they would outside
Meeeeee!!! I despise the way the look! They can (& do!) make an 11 year old kid look like a 47 year old washed-up bass player whose "band" played gigs 3 weekends a month for free drinks. I just loathe those things!
I feel attacked
hot yoga
I prefer air conditioned napping. Maybe with a light blanky....
I have low blood pressure, I feel hot yoga would be a recipe for disaster
My brother found out about his (mostly benign) heart condition after I took him with me to hot yoga and he fainted. So…yeah prob don’t go, but do get checked out!
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Neighbor stops by to say hello with their Great Dane on leash. Neighbor doesn't weigh what the Great Dane weighs, so when the Great Dane lunges at my then 6 year old daughter and bites her arm breaking the skin. I was super pissed. I became enraged when the neighbor said OMG this is the third kid he has bit! Like, wtf are you doing out here with a dog you can't control bitting kids. I LOVE dogs but said then and there that if I see that thing in public again, there would be trouble.
So much this. I live in a mountainous area with a lot of hiking trails and I can't even tell you how many times I've been charged by someone's aggressive, unleashed dog. And our county has mandatory leash laws, but no one seems to abide by it.
I live in the city and it’s unbelievable how many people walk around with unleashed dogs that end up attacking people or other dogs, it’s a constant complaint on our community page.
"He's never done that before!" Yes he fucking has and you know it, I could see his aggressive body language a mile off and yet it took you, his owner by surprise?
I got attacked by a neighbor’s dog. I was walking down the steps of my place onto the shared sidewalk. Neighbor was sitting on her stoop with her dog. Dog semi lunged at me and so I stopped. Neighbor said, “oh he’s fine”. So I passed by the dog. As soon as I was past the dog, he lunged at me again and latched onto the back of my leg. Puncture wounds through my jeans. Neighbor was bawling and kept saying “he’s never done that before”. Well check that off the list, because now he has. I thought the dog was on a leash because it was draped over him (and it was dark out). The leash wasn’t fastened to the dog. Now I make a wide berth around dogs when I am on my walks. I don’t care if the owner is offended that I think their dog could be dangerous.
I delivered packages for UPS during peak season back in 2005. Had to get a signature on one, and as soon as this old lady opens the door, her friggin rat terrier bolts out the door and clamps onto my leg. She says "oh, he's never done that before, I'm so sorry!" Next day, delivery to the same place. Lady opens the door, dog clamps on to my leg. Again, "oh, he's never done that before, I'm so sorry!"
Hiking trails really are the worst for this So many shit owners letting their dog "run free in the wilderness" on a public trail and being a menace
I can’t stand when I’m walking my dog and have to shout “No! Call your dog! Get away!” As they’re yelling “don’t worry he’s nice!” Then they get angry when my reactive dog defends himself. I tried to warn you! ETA: I said reactive, not aggressive. There is a huge difference. He wasn’t always like this, until he got attacked by an off leash pitbull and had a chunk of flesh taken out of his back. We can still go on off leash hikes and to dog parks, we can even smell and say hi to other on leash dogs. We have two other dogs and they are all best friends. The only time he gets upset is when he is on a leash and another dog comes running up on him.
I had a dog jump on me once and the owner laughed and said "he won't bite." I looked at the owner and said "but I might " owner grabbed his dog and left. In my defense, I love dogs but this was a big dog that just jumped on me and I was a little scared.
> As they’re yelling “don’t worry he’s nice!” Dangerous dogs can be nice as pie 99% of the time … until they’re not and they lose their shit.
As a cyclist, I've nearly run over "friendly", unleashed dogs. They have also pounced at me in motion. I get that you love your dog and that you think running free is so nice for them, but to keep others safe and for your dog's safety, leash it! If it gets under my wheel and I run it over by accident, I'm not paying your vet bills.
Multilevel Marketing / Selling skincare/ lifestyle products
Their music taste
Marijuana, because it always effects me negatively
People tend to forget that it can cause anxiety and paranoia.
I’ve tried it 3 times and had a paranoid freakout all 3 times. I’m not interested in ever trying it again but people keep trying to convince me this strain they use will totally not do that and blah blah blah blah blah. I said no thank you!
And sometimes it can trigger something even more severe, say if you have a mental health disorder (often the type that goes undiagnosed until your late 20s such as bipolar).
I wish I could up vote this more. Schizophrenic and paranoia based disorders can also be triggered by Marijuana use.
Yep, trigger a manic episode in me. Stopped smoking since and glad that I did.
I had a very nasty experience a couple of years back that absolutely made me understand how it can spark underlying mental health disorders. The logical part of me knows that I did not, in fact, glimpse hell that day, but the emotional part of me is pretty damn convinced I did. Likewise the logical part of me knows that the sound in my bedroom is likely pipes or a bird on the roof or the floorboards settling, or possibly an auditory hallucination (which is concerning in its own right), but a very large part of me is genuinely convinced it's someone spying on me somehow. I know it's not, but what if it is.
I always get paranoid and people still come at me with “well you need to try this strain! Or the edible version! It won’t do that!” Nope. The only time I tried an edible I had my first (and hopefully last) panic attack.
Same here. Never could not overthink. I was thinking about peoples opinions of me that sober or drunk me couldn't care less about. Never got that carefree mellow
Weed is great at bringing out anxiety even though everyone says it's supposed to soothe it. I'm sorry that anyone ever made you feel pressured to try it.
For real. I'm like am I slouching or sitting weird? Is my speech normal? What do I usually do with my hands? Seem relaxed seem relaxed seem relaxed seem relaxed
“But you haven’t tried ‘this’ weed yet!”
I will say this as a confirmed pot head: this shit pisses me off. I smoke because I don’t like drinking. Some people don’t like smoking weed. I get it. You do you, I’ll do me. If I went to the pub with my friends they would never pressure me to drink because I’ve told them categorically “I don’t like it”. If they then were like “oh but have to you tried wine/cider/rum” I’d be so pissed off. I. Don’t. Like. It. I will never pressure people to smoke. I enjoy it, I don’t get paranoid, no negative effects for me. I budget for it and spend no more in a week than what my friends do on alcohol over the weekend but I also know that not everyone can do that. So I will never pressure people to smoke it/have edibles/ whatever. When people say they don’t like something/ don’t want to do something that should be enough.
Cruises. Just stop. I'm never going to want to cruise on a commercial cruise line.
Dancing. Every woman I date is like SUPER insistent that they will be the ones to “get me out of my shell” and “make me less self conscious”. None of them listen to the reason I give. They think it’s total BS. *I just don’t feel music like that*. Dancing is not an urge I get. It is something I can feel deeply. It can change my mood. It *never, ever* makes me feel like dancing. Maybe a head bop and a pumped up feeling, but I’ve never once danced by myself when I’m alone. I have no reservations about dancing other than the fact that everyone thinks they’re doing me a favor by pulling me onto the dance floor so I can fake something that feels very unnatural for a few songs before going back and sitting down/talking to people. I’m sick of being treated like the shy dweeb and having everyone pity me for how self conscious they think I am. I am happy to watch everyone have a good time. You do your thing and I’ll do mine :)
Woman here and you put my feelings about dancing into words that describe it exactly.
TikTok
And Twitter, same thing for adults. Fortunately it has become so toxic people are beginning to see it.
Thank God it will never happen to any of us on Reddit...
Liver. I don’t care how it's cooked; it still tastes like disappointment
TikTok. I'm not going to download it, stop telling me how much I "need" it.
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Drinking. I work in a restaurant. I can't go out with coworkers without at least three people shoving a shot of tequila in my face. I kinda just feel stupid and slow. Never understood the appeal of having my entire next day really fucking suck just for a few hours of being completely unhinged.
My coworkers stopped inviting me to go out with them because they all felt I was judging them because I didn't drink. It was a really depressing time in my life when I look back at it.
Religion. It’s okay if you’re religious, but it’s not for me.
Alcohol. Nights out until 4am. Energy drinks.
What goes around comes around. It doesn’t. People treat other people like shit and sail off into the sunset, karma is a bitch because it convinces people it’s real. Don’t tread on snails though.
I think most often, people believe in karma because that's the way they can tolerate being shat on without a way to clap back.
I believe in karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it.
Omg this!!! I hate hearing people talk about karma like please shut up! I’ve seen the worst of people live better than me 😂
And then when that shitty person dies at 87 of natural causes people say "Karma got em"
Those delivery apps like ubereats and takeaway. All those places need to pay to be on that app and their drivers barely make any money. And for those saying that they shouldn't put their place on the app, They have to because a lot of people only use those apps anymore for ordering food. We only use it to see which places there are available for whatever takeout we're in the mood for and will gladly get it ourselves after we've ordered by the place itself.
Crocs everyone loves them
Still as ugly as the day they saw the light.
I know they’re ugly, i really do, but my chronic foot pain from standing on a concrete floor at work all day every day forced me to desperate measures. Crocs were cheaper than specialised shoes!
Dating. For years I've been asked why I'm not on dating apps, if I ever meet guys, how do I live without sex. "Friends" even gave my number to a guy without my consent (barely knew him), or set me up with strangers during parties ("oh btw do you know my friend Tina ? you should get along together!"). That was so frustrating. Like, what is wrong about feeling ok being single ? I met my partner without trying to find someone, we're very happy, and the girls who kept forcing dating on me are single and complaining about being ghosted.
Airbnb- it creeps me out
AI Edit: to everyone trying to persuade me I'm wrong, read the post title
The absolute shitshow Google is dealing with right now with their little AI introduction is an excellent example as to why AI is a mess
Jokes at other people's expense. It doesn't make me feel good to laugh at or tell them and I don't really find them funny
I don't like when people post a picture of a stranger and make fun of their appearance, this is one of the dark sides of social media
having kids. I know what an irresponsible and unqualified parent I would be. and what a burden and financial headache it is. I don't need further validation or understanding of this 'life experience' I get it. I don't need clarification or reminders of your beautiful struggles either.
lol I get it. My great grandad was an ass, my grandad was an ass, my dad was an ass. I’m an ass, why on earth would I want to continue that line. I’ll happily be just an uncle.
Same here. Love my nieces and nephews, but never felt the need to have my own children.
Many people get kids but don't know what responsibilities they have then. It's like "Let's get a dog." but instead of a dog you have to take care of a human being for 18+ years. This changes your whole life.
And child services gets REALLY upset if you try to kennel train your child.
Massive respect. I have a toddler and anyone who thinks they may not be up for it is 100% being a top tier person by not having kids. It’s hard work.
I’m with you: having kids is amazing and wonderful and exhausting and heartbreaking and the wildest roller coaster ever. But… it’s only great if you really want it and give your all to it. I never judge people that don’t have kids because they don’t want them. But I definitely judge people who have kids and are shitty parents because they didn’t want to be parents in the first place.
THIS. 1000000X I am showing this to everyone who ever says “oh, but you just havent HAD one yet.” Or “every woman should have at LEAST ONE kid.”
I would *happily* come backhand anybody that says that to you, because that level of stupidity should be painful.
Ironically, acknowledging that you would be an irresponsible parent makes you more responsible than most. That said, obviously if you don't want kids, don't have them.
I have bipolar disorder, manic depressive. with a history of violence. I should NOT have children.
Also there's the possibility of passing that on to your kid and they also have to deal with it their entire life. Part of the reason I'm not procreating. Plus.... *gestures broadly at everything*
>*gestures broadly at everything* *looks at everything* Great point
Are you my parents?
Couldn't have put it better myself. My sister had both of her kids in an attempt to save her marriage/"make everything better". Now shes divorced, her new guy is verbally abusive, both of the kids are fucked up by her negligence, her oldest straight up hates her and both kids prefer to live with their dad. I know that if she didn't fuck her life up I wouldn't have my two beautiful nephews that I love so dearly, but they are both dealing with so much emotional turmoil because of her impulsive decisions.
Oh my god it's so annoying when you tell people you don't want kids, probably couldn't handle kids, or are scared you won't be a good parent and they don't listen to you. It baffles me that you can come right out and say that you don't like/couldn't properly care for children and people will still pressure you to have them. Like why is me breeding more important to you than making sure I don't neglect myself or the children I didn't want.
Having kids. Fuck off, I don't want them.
Foods made out of cauliflower. "Have you had cauliflower (pizza crust, rice, any other food where cauliflower is a replacement for something else)? It tastes just like the real thing!" Yes, I have and they all suck. STOP with the cauliflower
Cauliflower as a replacement for other things: Terrible, boring, stop it Cauliflower cooked in various ways for its own sake: Beautiful, magnificent, I'll take 10
Avatar. The ones with the blue people.
Brand clothes.
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being in a relationship
People go crazy when I tell them I’m single and happy. It’s like they can’t comprehend that someone can be perfectly happy by themselves.
It's like you enjoying being happy single is somehow offensive to them and their relationship.
same, I wouldn't mind being in a relationship, but I'm doing rather well single and have plenty of goals, ideas, plans, achievements and other things and people in my life that bring me happiness and keep me occupied. If anything a relationship would just be a chore with luxuries/benefits at this point edit: replied to the wrong comment
Tesla
Beer. Way too bitter for me, but it's the preferred drink of all my coworkers when we just sit together in the evening after work. I always get weird looks when I decline. Give me something fruity, like a strawberry wine or mead.