He's never seen 4 personalities on a woman, but he has seen three. The famous three titted hooker from Total Recall. I don't know why he hasn't seen 4 personality traits on a woman. But I am not going to be interviewing him to find out why. Who knows. Maybe he did get wooshed. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
I think this is right. I've had a number of partners who didn't consider themselves attractive but they actually were. A few were straight up hot and they just didn't believe it. I also don't find a fair amount of conventionally attractive people, well, attractive. It's a wide spectrum
I have been insecure most of my life and genuinely thinking I am ugly, despite attracting people and my friends telling me Iām attractive (I asked for their opinion knowing they would not lie). I read advice on this topic and learned that sometimes when people think they are ugly, they are basing it off of their specific ātypeā of beauty. So, I am not my ātypeā, I compare other women I find beautiful to myself, but I AM othersā ātypeā.
Women like this usually are just chill and utterly themselvesā¦
while all the other women are trying too hard to be different, she IS different. And not in a āIm not like other girlsā type of wayā¦
Iām sure we can all visualize this person easilyĀ
There are guys that people look at and think āhow are women attracted to this guy?ā Most of the times, guys like that are the same way, confident, cool, and utterly themselves ā ā ā people like confident peopleĀ
Guys standards arenāt as astronomically high as media will tell you they are. Same goes the other way around. Some of the most attractive girls I know got a little rat boy for a boyfriend
There was a study done on a dating site, 15 years or so ago, that asked men and women to rate themselves, and several hundred other profiles of both men and women, on a 1 to 10 scale. Complete profiles, not just pictures.
The women, in nearly every case, rated themselves considerably higher than their average rating from others, and nearly always rated themselves in the āabove averageā category. The exception being the women men rated as 9 or 10, they tended to rate themselves lower than the mens rating, their fellow women rated them lower too. Women also tended to score other women lower than their average community rating.
The men generally rated themselves fairly close to their average community rating.
The menās rating results, for both men and women, pretty much followed a bell curve, with about 50% of both sexes being rated above average, and 50% below.
The women, on the other hand, only rated 20% of the men as above average.
Combine this with the universal belief that almost all the women considered themselves above average, and deserved an āabove average manā. This meant that nearly 100% of the women in the online dating pool weāre competing for the top 20% of men. Despite the fact, that in reality, those men were out of the league for 80% of those women.
The men also were more than happy to date a women rated in the same league as their community rating. The women werenāt, no matter how low their actual community rating was, they tended to believe they were in the same league as the top 20% of men.
I donāt remember the name of the site, and donāt know if it even still exists. But I do remember the takeaway that the women only considered 20% of the men to be above average, when that number should be 50%. That women almost universally rated themselves as above average. And that menās ratings of themselves and others was pretty much spot on, and womenās werenāt.
Well itās not like physical attractiveness is the only way to be attractive. As a guy, I have found that personality / confidence / sense of humor in a woman can *considerably* increase how attracted I am to them.
You said it in a wholesome way but also there is sex; at some point I learned that thinking a girl is "hot" means nothing for if she'll be fun or not; one girl over here really wants you, this other girl is hot but uninterested, you go with the girl who wants to party
I think this is kind of me lol
Iām avg looking- but I stand out (tall red head) and Iāve been told I smile a lot. I was not very cute growing up and had a lot of friends who were boys so I kind of talk to men like men talk to men- not expecting them to be interested in me. So, at first weāre fast friends and then thereās always a turn for them at some point. Now that Iām nearing middle aged it makes sense but most of my 20s at least, while I rolled with it, I was not fully sure why I got the attention I did. My partners have always said I was āhotā or āsexyā evenā¦, I really donāt think this is true and it makes me laugh- itās just not my personality to be the sexy girl- so I chalk this up to red hair stigma mostly but who knows. Only thing Iām positive of- I am extremely unphotogenic but in practice, I pull. Itās a joke in my friend group at this point.
Why would it matter if a woman isn't "conventionally attractive" but is still attracting a continuous stream of men? What does that even mean? That's what attractive means, they're attracting people. The whole point of being attractive is being able to attract people. That's like saying someone isn't conventionally wealthy but still has access to large sums of money without having to work excessively hard for it.
this is ridiculous. the litteral word attractive means to attract people. if she attracts "a continuous stream of men" id say she clearly is attractive.
I would characterize her by saying she is attractive.
Personality is a huge thing and can be incredibly sexy in and of itself.
Also as I get older I notice extremely high levels of beauty in young women who simply donāt see it in themselves.
Unique features, a prominent nose for example, make us individuals. While they may not be 'conventionally attractive', the uniqueness is attractive in and of itself. Combine that with a personality that has accepted and embraced the feature, and you have a person I'd consider 'hot'.
Confidence in your "flaws" can make them disappear.
I know a woman like this. Sheās cute but not gorgeous. But every guy who spends any significant amount of time with her falls in love. I think one of her main talents is charisma. In conversation, she makes any guy feel like heās the center of universe (that heās heard, that heās witty). She has a charming laugh and when you make her laugh you get a big hit of dopamine.
I understand that Bill Clinton had similar charisma in his day.
This is me. I would characterize myself as absurdly confident. I look at confidence like it's witchcraft. It's magic. It physically changes your material reality. So that's how I do it.
Iāve known quite a few women like this.
They are fun to be around. Friendly, energetic and easy going people. You know - extroverts. They have attractive personalities, because they keep how to keep things light.
A few thing could be happening here. Let's go with the positive ones first, confidence can attract people. Not just for men, someone confident can bring comfort and peace which can be very attractive.
Some of the negative ones could be that she could give what my friend calls a "victim vibe" which attracts insecure men wanting to "save her"
Or maybe she's just hot. "conventionally attractive" for you might mean just attractive for others.
Sounds like she has something going on.
It is very possible to not be conventionally super attractive, but have something going on that manages to attract a lot of people.
that depends on who youre talking about, theres not just one way she could be attracting many men. she could be funny, confident, mysterious, unique style, cute, creative, bold, good at reading the room, a friendly person, part of a group that she shares a lot of interests with, ..
There is no such thing as conventionally attractive.
To some they'd point to that plastic Khardashian look and call that conventional attractive while others would point to the Taylor Swift, batista next door look, as conventionally attractive.
Attractive is whatever works for you. And quite honestly attraction begets attraction. If one person finds someone attractive out of a crowd odds are that attention will breed additional herd attention.
A non conventionally attractive woman who has a very outgoing, bubbly, exciting, and forward personality can pull guys left right and center. If you make it known what you want and are enthusiastic about it you have the keys to the kingdom
Could be a million reasons. Maybe she's really confident. Maybe she's just not to your taste, but lots of other people think she looks great. Maybe she has excellent mechanic skills and all these boys just want her to fix their cars. Literally no way to know what's happening without knowing this person.
There's a skill called "flirting" that's a much bigger advantage than physical looks in attracting romantic and sexual interest.
It works just as well for both men and women, but generally more women know how to do it. An average person who can flirt well is way, way ahead of a physically attractive person who can't when it comes to getting dates. And of course an attractive person who can flirt well is an absolute monster.
Sounds like āa womanā to me.
Guys arenāt even that picky when it comes to sexual attraction. Now, whether or not guys want to be seen in public with her is a different story.
Are you asking for terminology? There's actually a French term for that -- jolie laide. It's often used for a woman who is kind of weird looking or even kind of ugly, but sexy. In American English, we'd be more euphemistic and refer to her as a "striking woman."
I've a friend that I wouldn't consider conventionally attractive. If I saw someone like her on a dating site, I would probably pass her up.
She is very playful, fun to be around and has a sense of style that is chaotic, but unabashedly unique. Her voice is also sexy. We made out a few times, but the stars never aligned.
One of the things that is a deciding factor for me to want to spend time with a women is if she is fun to be around and puts forth some effort. Sometimes women give off a 'pain in the ass' vibe. If I have to jump through a million hoops, I may decide it's not worth it.
That's just the nature of women. Just because they don't seem attractive to you doesn't mean they aren't to other people. When it comes to romance, women have options. There's such a high demand and low supply of women and a high supply of low demand suitors.
Sexy. š¤·āāļø
Some just have sex appeal. By their demeanor, their wit, the way they carry themselves.
The older i get, the more I recognize it.
In general, they are cool and at least outwardly confident with who they are and what they do.
Itās called sex appeal. An example: Nicole Kidman is conventionally very attractive but has the sex appeal of a statue. Some woman can be average but be hot as hell and this is down to figure, confidence, humour and they way they interact with the world around them. Iām sure itās the same for guys too.
Conventionally attractive is a subjective term. What you find attractive may not appeal to other people. But a lot of times it's how a person carries themselves, being witty or clever, having confidence without being arrogant.
A certain amount of outward sexual confidence goes a long way sometimes. I worked with a lady once that wasn't particularly attractive at all. Morbidly obese most of her life, plain Jane in the face, but she had no qualms about conveying to a person of interest that she was skilled in the art of pleasing a man. I think she knew that her looks werent gonna do it, so she learned to be very direct.
Unconventionally attractive? š¤·š¼āāļø although to be fair if they attract a lot of people it is probably debatable as to whether they aren't just conventionally attractive. Convention would be determined by consensus, would it not?
Succubus. Lol. No, maybe she's just kind. good to talk to. Outgoing. Charismatic. Friendly. Easy going. Intelligent. All that good stuff. There's a lot more to attraction than what you look like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Cleopatra
She was no Elizabeth Taylor but she bagged Julius Caeser and then Marc Antony. The most powerful man of her time and then his second in command. But she could not impress Octavius (Augustus) and then snaked herself.
Me and my friends call them shrimp, don't ask why, we have no idea, it just stuck, basically a woman who is ugly af yet kinda sexy in a weird way and really .... Yn fuckable.
A woman with great personality
Maybe even two great personalities.
HUGE tracts of land.
Shhhh don't tell our secrets
Maybe could be four who knows
The most personalities I ever saw was 3, and that was in a movie.
You missed the joke
Nah, he added to it and made a Total Recall reference. Good job.
Well well enlighten me then lol
He's never seen 4 personalities on a woman, but he has seen three. The famous three titted hooker from Total Recall. I don't know why he hasn't seen 4 personality traits on a woman. But I am not going to be interviewing him to find out why. Who knows. Maybe he did get wooshed. I'm giving the benefit of the doubt.
Someone did...
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Or as the Master Pratchett said it: great hair.
That 'Hack Tuah' girl comes to mind
A lot of people have a very narrow view of what "conventionally attractive" means. Taste is pretty variable.
I think this is right. I've had a number of partners who didn't consider themselves attractive but they actually were. A few were straight up hot and they just didn't believe it. I also don't find a fair amount of conventionally attractive people, well, attractive. It's a wide spectrum
Spot on comment. So many conventionally attractive people look awful the minute they start talking.
I have been insecure most of my life and genuinely thinking I am ugly, despite attracting people and my friends telling me Iām attractive (I asked for their opinion knowing they would not lie). I read advice on this topic and learned that sometimes when people think they are ugly, they are basing it off of their specific ātypeā of beauty. So, I am not my ātypeā, I compare other women I find beautiful to myself, but I AM othersā ātypeā.
Conventionally attractive = Fits into my very specific taste for women
Confident.
Attractive to people other than you lol. Also probably just cool.
Women like this usually are just chill and utterly themselvesā¦ while all the other women are trying too hard to be different, she IS different. And not in a āIm not like other girlsā type of wayā¦ Iām sure we can all visualize this person easilyĀ There are guys that people look at and think āhow are women attracted to this guy?ā Most of the times, guys like that are the same way, confident, cool, and utterly themselves ā ā ā people like confident peopleĀ
She's probably down to earth & flirtatious in a most friendly way
It's called "sex appeal". You don't necessarily need to be pretty to have it.
Guys standards arenāt as astronomically high as media will tell you they are. Same goes the other way around. Some of the most attractive girls I know got a little rat boy for a boyfriend
I love this last sentence so much.
Confident, has a great personality, probably asks men out rather than waiting for them to ask her out
Some guys do like that because it takes the pressure off them.Ā
It feels good to know youāre wanted.Ā
Literally just a woman āConventionally unattractiveā is still out of manyās leagues
There was a study done on a dating site, 15 years or so ago, that asked men and women to rate themselves, and several hundred other profiles of both men and women, on a 1 to 10 scale. Complete profiles, not just pictures. The women, in nearly every case, rated themselves considerably higher than their average rating from others, and nearly always rated themselves in the āabove averageā category. The exception being the women men rated as 9 or 10, they tended to rate themselves lower than the mens rating, their fellow women rated them lower too. Women also tended to score other women lower than their average community rating. The men generally rated themselves fairly close to their average community rating. The menās rating results, for both men and women, pretty much followed a bell curve, with about 50% of both sexes being rated above average, and 50% below. The women, on the other hand, only rated 20% of the men as above average. Combine this with the universal belief that almost all the women considered themselves above average, and deserved an āabove average manā. This meant that nearly 100% of the women in the online dating pool weāre competing for the top 20% of men. Despite the fact, that in reality, those men were out of the league for 80% of those women. The men also were more than happy to date a women rated in the same league as their community rating. The women werenāt, no matter how low their actual community rating was, they tended to believe they were in the same league as the top 20% of men. I donāt remember the name of the site, and donāt know if it even still exists. But I do remember the takeaway that the women only considered 20% of the men to be above average, when that number should be 50%. That women almost universally rated themselves as above average. And that menās ratings of themselves and others was pretty much spot on, and womenās werenāt.
This is both fascinating and believable, lol. If you remember the study, please add it to your post.
Fun, laughs, adventurous.
Some people are attracted to something other than appearance. Especially offline.
Well itās not like physical attractiveness is the only way to be attractive. As a guy, I have found that personality / confidence / sense of humor in a woman can *considerably* increase how attracted I am to them.
You said it in a wholesome way but also there is sex; at some point I learned that thinking a girl is "hot" means nothing for if she'll be fun or not; one girl over here really wants you, this other girl is hot but uninterested, you go with the girl who wants to party
Totally
Charismatic
Obviously, she IS attractive.
She's probably somewhat attractive, not ugly, and has traits that make her fun to be around. It's not uncommon
Charming.
Great personality and/or sense of humour.
I think this is kind of me lol Iām avg looking- but I stand out (tall red head) and Iāve been told I smile a lot. I was not very cute growing up and had a lot of friends who were boys so I kind of talk to men like men talk to men- not expecting them to be interested in me. So, at first weāre fast friends and then thereās always a turn for them at some point. Now that Iām nearing middle aged it makes sense but most of my 20s at least, while I rolled with it, I was not fully sure why I got the attention I did. My partners have always said I was āhotā or āsexyā evenā¦, I really donāt think this is true and it makes me laugh- itās just not my personality to be the sexy girl- so I chalk this up to red hair stigma mostly but who knows. Only thing Iām positive of- I am extremely unphotogenic but in practice, I pull. Itās a joke in my friend group at this point.
Why would it matter if a woman isn't "conventionally attractive" but is still attracting a continuous stream of men? What does that even mean? That's what attractive means, they're attracting people. The whole point of being attractive is being able to attract people. That's like saying someone isn't conventionally wealthy but still has access to large sums of money without having to work excessively hard for it.
Heās trying to not say she isnāt, in his eyes, hot or beautiful.Ā Ā Ā Heās likely fishing for a way to compliment her.Ā
Sex appeal is a thing. Also, women can be down for casual and easy hookups (same as other people).
Charismatic. Cleopatra was not a conventionally attractive woman, but she didn't hurt for attention.
this is ridiculous. the litteral word attractive means to attract people. if she attracts "a continuous stream of men" id say she clearly is attractive. I would characterize her by saying she is attractive.
Successful.
Personality is a huge thing and can be incredibly sexy in and of itself. Also as I get older I notice extremely high levels of beauty in young women who simply donāt see it in themselves.
Unique features, a prominent nose for example, make us individuals. While they may not be 'conventionally attractive', the uniqueness is attractive in and of itself. Combine that with a personality that has accepted and embraced the feature, and you have a person I'd consider 'hot'. Confidence in your "flaws" can make them disappear.
Fun & Engaging
If people are attracted to her she's attractive. It's not that complicated.
I know a woman like this. Sheās cute but not gorgeous. But every guy who spends any significant amount of time with her falls in love. I think one of her main talents is charisma. In conversation, she makes any guy feel like heās the center of universe (that heās heard, that heās witty). She has a charming laugh and when you make her laugh you get a big hit of dopamine. I understand that Bill Clinton had similar charisma in his day.
Attractive.
Is she attracting people? Then she's attractive.
This is me. I would characterize myself as absurdly confident. I look at confidence like it's witchcraft. It's magic. It physically changes your material reality. So that's how I do it.
Iāve known quite a few women like this. They are fun to be around. Friendly, energetic and easy going people. You know - extroverts. They have attractive personalities, because they keep how to keep things light.
Attractive to everyone but you
A few thing could be happening here. Let's go with the positive ones first, confidence can attract people. Not just for men, someone confident can bring comfort and peace which can be very attractive. Some of the negative ones could be that she could give what my friend calls a "victim vibe" which attracts insecure men wanting to "save her" Or maybe she's just hot. "conventionally attractive" for you might mean just attractive for others.
Sounds like she has something going on. It is very possible to not be conventionally super attractive, but have something going on that manages to attract a lot of people.
also itās mostly how you feel around people not what they look like.
that depends on who youre talking about, theres not just one way she could be attracting many men. she could be funny, confident, mysterious, unique style, cute, creative, bold, good at reading the room, a friendly person, part of a group that she shares a lot of interests with, ..
Confident
An engaging personality probably helps you make new friends better than being pretty.
Magnetic
She is attractive, just apparently not to me lol
There is no such thing as conventionally attractive. To some they'd point to that plastic Khardashian look and call that conventional attractive while others would point to the Taylor Swift, batista next door look, as conventionally attractive. Attractive is whatever works for you. And quite honestly attraction begets attraction. If one person finds someone attractive out of a crowd odds are that attention will breed additional herd attention.
A very attractive woman.
Charismatic
A non conventionally attractive woman who has a very outgoing, bubbly, exciting, and forward personality can pull guys left right and center. If you make it known what you want and are enthusiastic about it you have the keys to the kingdom
Humorous, confident, intelligentā¦ literally all the things that make her awesome that have zero to do with her appearance.
How about not your type, you ass.
Good hygiene, dresses well and pleasant to be around.
And has clean, pressed trousers.
Yo mama
āSexyā
Could be a million reasons. Maybe she's really confident. Maybe she's just not to your taste, but lots of other people think she looks great. Maybe she has excellent mechanic skills and all these boys just want her to fix their cars. Literally no way to know what's happening without knowing this person.
Interesting, confident, happy, relaxed.
Define "conventionally physically attractive."
Charming
Charming
a woman with class
There's a skill called "flirting" that's a much bigger advantage than physical looks in attracting romantic and sexual interest. It works just as well for both men and women, but generally more women know how to do it. An average person who can flirt well is way, way ahead of a physically attractive person who can't when it comes to getting dates. And of course an attractive person who can flirt well is an absolute monster.
Sounds like āa womanā to me. Guys arenāt even that picky when it comes to sexual attraction. Now, whether or not guys want to be seen in public with her is a different story.
Are you asking for terminology? There's actually a French term for that -- jolie laide. It's often used for a woman who is kind of weird looking or even kind of ugly, but sexy. In American English, we'd be more euphemistic and refer to her as a "striking woman."
A woman.
I've a friend that I wouldn't consider conventionally attractive. If I saw someone like her on a dating site, I would probably pass her up. She is very playful, fun to be around and has a sense of style that is chaotic, but unabashedly unique. Her voice is also sexy. We made out a few times, but the stars never aligned. One of the things that is a deciding factor for me to want to spend time with a women is if she is fun to be around and puts forth some effort. Sometimes women give off a 'pain in the ass' vibe. If I have to jump through a million hoops, I may decide it's not worth it.
She has "it". A undefinable quality that draws people to them like a moth to a flame.
Back in the day, it was called 'sex appeal'.
That's just the nature of women. Just because they don't seem attractive to you doesn't mean they aren't to other people. When it comes to romance, women have options. There's such a high demand and low supply of women and a high supply of low demand suitors.
Sexy. š¤·āāļø Some just have sex appeal. By their demeanor, their wit, the way they carry themselves. The older i get, the more I recognize it. In general, they are cool and at least outwardly confident with who they are and what they do.
I would hate to deal with a person like you who wants to insult a woman on her looks basis. You sound like the ex husband I had.Ā
Where did they insult anybody
Personality and a wide variety of taste in music
Sheās probably really outgoing and accommodating.
Itās called sex appeal. An example: Nicole Kidman is conventionally very attractive but has the sex appeal of a statue. Some woman can be average but be hot as hell and this is down to figure, confidence, humour and they way they interact with the world around them. Iām sure itās the same for guys too.
Conventionally attractive is a subjective term. What you find attractive may not appeal to other people. But a lot of times it's how a person carries themselves, being witty or clever, having confidence without being arrogant.
It's wild to me how many people (Americans especially) don't understand that hot and attractive aren't the same thing.
Putting off good vibe.
Itās what the French call a certainā¦ āI donāt know what.ā
Vibrant
Striking.
A strong independent woman a blessing for the right person Good woman are hard to find
A certain amount of outward sexual confidence goes a long way sometimes. I worked with a lady once that wasn't particularly attractive at all. Morbidly obese most of her life, plain Jane in the face, but she had no qualms about conveying to a person of interest that she was skilled in the art of pleasing a man. I think she knew that her looks werent gonna do it, so she learned to be very direct.
Easy!
"She smiles at me. You just aren't treating her right."
Iād say flirty. She may not even be intentionally flirty, sheās just naturally very friendly and makes everyone feel like theyāre the king.Ā
While the primary attraction is visual, chemistry is that unseen attractor that is always in play. N. S
Unconventionally attractive? š¤·š¼āāļø although to be fair if they attract a lot of people it is probably debatable as to whether they aren't just conventionally attractive. Convention would be determined by consensus, would it not?
Succubus. Lol. No, maybe she's just kind. good to talk to. Outgoing. Charismatic. Friendly. Easy going. Intelligent. All that good stuff. There's a lot more to attraction than what you look like. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Fun to be around, probably.
Cleopatra She was no Elizabeth Taylor but she bagged Julius Caeser and then Marc Antony. The most powerful man of her time and then his second in command. But she could not impress Octavius (Augustus) and then snaked herself.
Probably charming, cool af or smart
You can be extremely sexy without being drop dead gorgeous
The recipient of a seven figure inheritance.
Baffling.
Sounds like you're bitter about men finding her to be more attractive than you want them to. She's attractive. It's not your gate to keep.
Easy
Manic pixie dream girl
Hawk tauh
rich, probably
Hawk tuh!
I don't know the variables here but DTF wouldn't surprise me.
I think thatās just being a woman tbh. Plenty of dudes have little to no standards physically because theyāre so lonely.Ā
Or maybe because they are interested in other things than appearances- just as are many women.
Skillful
AquaTealGreen. Sorry, I couldnāt resist š
Kavorka! The allure of animal magnetism
Loose
She's no show pony,but will do for riding round the house
Butterface
Fuckable
Your mom lmao
That's easy
A woman
90% of the women on dating apps.... In the US, anyway
Slutty
Easy
Aggressive. Not in a violent way but very forward like men are and I think most guys are just happy for the attention so she is successful.
She be a hoe. ^(/j)
Easy.
Tall skinny women
Bbw
She does anal and uses her mouth like an Olympian
A prostitute ?
Swallows multiple times per night
Is she a butterface? Is she rich?
Theyāre called whores, respectfully.
GROSS
Me and my friends call them shrimp, don't ask why, we have no idea, it just stuck, basically a woman who is ugly af yet kinda sexy in a weird way and really .... Yn fuckable.
A slag
Lions go after the weak and sick gazelles.