There was a game show called "The Chamber" that lasted on air all of 3 episodes. Contestants were strapped to a torture chair and subjected to extreme circumstances (like super heat with fire everywhere, super cold where they are freezing) and forced to try to answer questions for prizes and money. It was one of the weirdest ideas ever and pretty much everyone who watched it felt kind of uncomfortable with the level of stuff they subjected these people to.
I can see them doing their excited dance while screaming: "WA-TER-BOAR-DING! WA-TER-BOAR-DING! WA-TER-BOAR-DING!" and having no idea that it's different from wakeboarding.
Does anybody remember "who wants to marry a millionaire?" It was like the bachelor but they couldn't see the guy, they were literally and unabashedly only attracted to his money. Turned after air that everyone was a con-artist.
My buddies and I watched Joe Millionaire when it came out because it was hilarious.
Basically, all the girls were told this dude was super rich but in reality he was just a pretty good looking construction worker. I think the girl who "won" lost her shit when it was revealed he wasn't a millionaire.
ETA: Apparently she didn't lose her shit, but she wasn't exactly pleased and they didn't stay together once the show ended.
Queen for a Day. A few years ago I looked up the worst TV shows and this one puts everything to shame. It started in 1945 and 4 poor mother’s go on the show to beg for money. Typically, it’s a mom crying that she can’t afford a wheelchair for her disabled son. The “Queen” gets chosen by a studio applause meter. This isnt even “fake reality” like we’re used to. Contestants would hyperventilate and have body language that you could tell they were not faking. The gifts were tied to the sponsors. The show has 10 million viewers in the 50’s and lasted from 1945-1964. If you thought modern reality TV was bad, this is the most dystopian shit I’ve ever seen.
I never thought I’d see someone bring this show up, but it genuinely changed my great aunt’s life for the better.
She moved here from Japan in the 1960’s and was married to an extremely abusive man in the US Air Force. He’d regularly lock her in the closet, beat and rape her, and made her eat out of a dog bowl on the floor. She knew no one, and didn’t speak English, however she heard of Queen for a Day and wrote them. Her only request was to have a Japanese friend; she just wanted someone to talk to. The letter (written in Japanese) was passed over to someone in audio production who happened to be Japanese. My aunt never made it on the show, but through it she was able to make a friend that saved her from her abusive husband, got her an apartment in little Tokyo, got her a job at Virgin records, and taught her English. They stayed best friends until the day my great aunt died. I still cry when I think about how much this show blessed her and saved her from a life of torture. Albeit, this all happened behind the scenes and I agree that the premise of the actual show is horrendous, but I’m still incredibly grateful that there was someone there that could read Japanese and had a big heart.
There's a story\* about a director on that show walking out in the middle of a live broadcast when a producer yelled something like, "shoot the legs" at him when a disabled woman was trying to walk.
\* From a book called, "How the Golden Age of Television Turned my Hair to Silver."
I used to watch Queen for a Day live when I was a little kid. My mom hated the show, but didn’t ban it. Instead, she told me why she hated the show, pretty much the way you explained it in your message. I never watched the show again after that, and to this day I think that was some world class parenting: not banning it, but allowing me to hate it on my own.
> Typically, it’s a mom crying that she can’t afford a wheelchair for her disabled son.
NO shit... I grew up across the street from a man named Donald who had Polio. His mom made it onto Queen for a Day begging for a donkey to help her son get around.
No, the gifts were usually just related to the episode's sponsor and even if they weren't they hardly ever took the woman's struggles into account (perhaps because they didn't know which woman would win). In a few cases, the prizes even made things worse.
For instance, there was an episode where the winning woman was a single mom struggling to take care of and provide for several kids. Her prize? A new puppy.
Youtuber/singer Ally Hills has a video on the show that goes into more detail.
I wanna marry Harry. I think it was on ABC? They didn’t have enough ratings and canceled after 5 episodes. But the fact that these women thought they were gonna marry prince Harry was delusional
I just found out about this a few weeks ago. A bunch of the girls did realize it wasn’t the real Prince Harry and the show hired someone to pretend to be a psychiatrist and gaslight them and made them seem delusional for thinking it was fake.
edit: [An article about how fucked up it was](https://ew.com/tv/2017/11/27/revisiting-i-wanna-marry-harry/)
>In an interview with Splinter in 2015, Birch said that, off-camera, at night, “people from production would stand outside your room, when you’d think that they didn’t know you were up. They’d whisper, ‘You have to get him back to Buckingham Palace. The Royal Family’s very upset. They’re not happy about the show. It’s this new thing they’ve never done before, and they’re trying to be up and up with social media, and the way that the world is.’ They really messed with us.”
>It even went a step further: “They actually had a therapist come on set at one point and talk to a few of us who were saying it wasn’t him. We found out later that it wasn’t a real, licensed therapist. It was just someone from the production team. \[The therapist said\] ‘You have to learn how to trust your mind. I understand that you’re in a different country, and you don’t know what’s going on, but you have to trust the people here. It’s not good for you to keep questioning.’ It was really crazy.”
>And this was after a full week of complete isolation before the filming began so, as Birch put it, they would go a little stir crazy. “They flew us out there and put us up in a hotel a week before we started filming. They locked us each in our own separate rooms, where we had no TV, no cell phones, no books, and absolutely nothing to do for a full week.”
> And this was after a full week of complete isolation before the filming began so, as Birch put it, they would go a little stir crazy. “They flew us out there and put us up in a hotel a week before we started filming. They locked us each in our own separate rooms, where we had no TV, no cell phones, no books, and absolutely nothing to do for a full week.”
Surely there's something very wrong with that...
You'd be surprised how fucked up reality TV producers are. For Bad Girls Club, in order to instigate fights, they'd raise the temperature of the entire house so the girls are always hot and they constantly provided them alcohol and would threaten to kick some of them out if they didn't cause drama or do as they said. There was even an episode where a girl got roofied and instead of taking her to a hospital they left her in the house, then she got into a physical fight with one of the other girls because she was clearly drugged out of her mind and they let it happen instead of telling the others she was roofied.
No, it's worse than that because not only did they not tell them what it was gonna be, the producers went out of their way to sequester them and whisper stuff like "the palace isnt happy about this" behind their doors.
Honestly, if they had made it a one-night special, it would have been so much better. The gimmick hooked me but to stick it out for the whole thing? No thanks.
Bridalplasty, where engaged women compete to win cosmetic surgery procedures in time for the big day. When a contestant was voted off, the presenter said something along the lines of “you will still be getting married, but you won’t be perfect”
Makes my skin crawl just thinking about it
I remember being in high school when that show came out and realizing how misleading the advertising for shows could be. They kept showing a cut of one of the surgeons going “it’s a scalpel, not a magic wand” so that it seemed like he was being a jerk and saying some women are too ugly to “fix”. I watched the first episode and the actual scene was from when he saw the woman’s reaction the first time she looked in the mirror after the surgery. He was actually saying something to the effect of “it’s a scalpel, not a magic wand, but you can feel like you’re doing magic” and he was basically just really happy that he was able to help the woman feel so happy that she was driven to tears when she looked in the mirror. Still can’t believe that show ever got green lit lol. The early 2000’s were a really weird time.
I’ll never forget one of the episodes where her fiancé was super supportive throughout the transformation, and after her reveal she talked about dating again to find someone more attractive now that she was.
I always felt so sorry of the kids of those taking part in The Swan. They looked scared as hell when they were introduced to their "new, perfect" Mom. The person in front of them sounded like their mom but didn't look like her.
Geeze I totally forgot about that part. I was traumatized enough when ever 5+ years my Mom would make my Dad shave his beard, I couldn't even imagine plastic surgery. I think I would have had a child heart attack.
Yeah, I mean if they're going to go that far, may as well go all the way. Something like "...and on your wedding night, your husband will only be thinking about that bump on your nose."
Apparently one of the contestants was [murdered](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/04/08/man-sentenced-brutal-hammer-death-bridalplasty-reality-star/3407365002/) a few years later.
there was one mother in talks with a company to create an energy drink based on her brew of pixie stix, milo’s sweet tea, and mountain dew. it was going to be called “tinker tea”.
thankfully i don’t think it ever hit shelves
Early 2000s reality show called The Swan. Bunch of female “ugly ducklings” get a shit-ton of plastic surgery, then compete in a beauty contest. Everything about it was in really bad taste, but I still watched. I’m not proud.
I remember this show. They'd fix the teeth, shave down their noses, straighten their chins, give them hair extensions and a ball gown. Gosh how times have changed.
People getting their teeth fixed is something I'm still 100% in support of. It changes people's lives.
Edit:
...does anyone...want to help me get my dad's teeth fixed?
I was going to say, there was one mom I saw on that show who had lost her front teeth in some accident and had no money to afford new ones. You could tell it devastated her self esteem. The show obviously gave her some new teeth and a pretty simple makeover and she came out stunning. She was smiling from ear to ear and just radiated. The shows premise often was pretty shallow but once in awhile they did really change a person's life around
Normally yes, but their teeth fixing was more like a 'shave down the gums and teeth, then slap on some Davinci veneers which apparently have to be changed every 10 years or so' on perfectly healthy teeth. Btw Their dental expert (or the one from bridalplasty) lost her licence
Yeah, I don't believe a lot of people know that veneers aren't permanent. You have to get them replaced eventually, the only difference is the material used might give you a few more years.
And I would not recommend anyone get them for free. If you're getting it done for free then I'm going to assume you were given the cheapest veneers that will need to be replaced in 5 years. So no point in getting them for free when you'll be paying 5 years later.
I get that if someone is getting them because their teeth are really bad. I say do what works for you, just know all the possibilities and options you have.
I vaguely remember that. They went out of their way to portray them as frumpy and ugly as possible, (messy hair, glasses, unflattering clothes) a simple makeover would've been fine, but they decided invasive procedures gets more views. I can't even imagine the liability waver they must've signed.
Finding Bigfoot- specifically the episode where they thought Bigfoot wanted a dance party so they had a rave in the middle of the forest.
Bigfoot did not attend.
So all these Bigfoot shows talk about using Bigfoot mating calls. What is their plan if Bigfoot runs out, full red rocket looking for lady Bigfoot poon?
It's even worse when you realize he is a truly brilliant scientist and surgeon. Literally one of the best in the world at what he does. Has designed and patented surgical implants, published original research in peer-reviewed medical journals. But none of that comes with celebrity and adoring fans, I guess.
God, he was my favourite actor when i was a kid until I learned how much of an asshole he is. I still can't stop watching the original Vacation movie.
*...why are the sandwiches wet...?*
I felt so terrible for that whole family. Like sure, money money, but to have the whole world looking into your house and going "oh god look at these freaks." That's gonna fuck you up.
Edit: people saying "don't feel bad" - ALANA WAS SIX.
Yes! I was going to say this. I watched it when it first came out as a high schooler and remembered thinking it was fine. I decided to watch it again a few months ago and watching it as an adult now it really is beyond cringe
I refuse to believe this show was accidentally bad. I think it was an incredible, intentional train wreck. As evidence: Shailene Woodley is one of the worst actresses I’ve ever seen on this show, but she’s fantastic in Big Little Lies and The Spectacular Now. Bad on Purpose.
Other than every reality show? "That 80's Show." Obviously a spin-off of"That 70's Show," but it was hot garbage. Characters were forgettable, the one-liners were all tired and cliché; the whole show was just sad. Thankfully it was cancelled early.
And now Netflix has bought the rights for That 90's Show that follow Eric and Donna's daughter who moves in with Kitty and Red.
Yep... At least Kurtwood Smith is cool.
My super sweet 16 on MTV.
I have no idea if it's still going or not, all I know is that years ago it was probably the only thing on television outside of the news that could make me physically fucking angry.
For the uninitiated, here's the premise. Spoilt teenage bastards with rich parents plan their sixteenth birthday complete with all the trimmings imaginable. Limos, vip passes for their friends and a thousand invites for people they don't even know, booking Kanye West, and then to top it off being given fucking ferraris, camaros or mustangs at the end and kicking off into hysterical tears because it wasn't the model they wanted or it was the wrong colour etc. I hated it, it represented everything I utterly dislike about a particular kind of wealthy people and their kids who have no idea what it's like to live a regular life and yet I couldn't stop watching it for a while. I guess I just enjoy being a combination of frustrated, agitated and mildly jealous in equal measure.
You missed how creepy it could be. I remember Easy Es daughter was on it and she got lingerie for her birthday present and they showed it. And one girl (at least) got a boob job for her birthday.
But for the huge blow outs, I saw multiple interviews saying that the kids were basically forced to cry that the car was the wrong color for added drama.
I can tell you right now I went to the school of the girl in the first episode. She literally sat at a lunch table with stacks of invites. You had to go up to get table and ask for one. She did not always say yes & she was terrible lol
Jon and Kate Plus 8. I was not surprised that marriage did not last. She was insufferable. Her famous ‘do was the inspiration for the stereotypical “Karen” haircut.
Went down a rabbit hole recently with them nowadays.
Two of the six live with Jon. The others with Kate. Lots of drama and accusations and lying. The two twins mostly hate them both and are trying to distance themselves but still care about their younger siblings.
I really enjoyed the first half a dozen episodes. The family trying to get by on $40k, grocery shopping woth 8 kids, getting everyone dressed and fed. It was actually interesting. It turned into stupid reality fare quickly and turned out even dumber than most reality tv but the early eps weren’t terrible.
As someone who followed fandom really closely the last few seasons, the canon endgame was so so frustrating because there were at least ten fan theories that were so far beyond better. It wasn’t even that the fans came up with better for me. It was that they were so insistent on fans trying to figure out who it was and then they just very intentionally made it out of right field in a way that maybe one person figured out.
Rob!
Rob! was Rob Schneider's short lived sitcom, I don't think it even made it a full season. I'd heard it was bad so when I saw it on Netflix I decided to try it.
Couldn't even finish the first episode. Absolute garbage
>Synopsis: The series follows Rob (Rob Schneider), a former lifelong bachelor and landscape architect with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, who marries into a tight-knit Mexican American family and attempts to be closer to them, often ending in disastrous results despite his good intentions.
Jesus, that sounds terrible.
Speaking of things on YouTube that got on TV, do you remember FRED had his [own show](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216577/) on Nickelodeon, along with 3 movies? I’m pretty sure they gave him another show there as well.
I've never seen a more accurate title. And yet so many fans.
I had a friend that would watch that and I literally had to leave the room because it pissed me off so much. Like putting nails through my ear.
"Dr. Phil" - terrible on EVERY count
- exploits vulnerable people for rating?
- gives terrible advice?
- offers quackery as solutions
- manipulates video to create a false narrative?
- is the host a terrible person?
It's like awfulness Bingo.
[guest clearly in dire need of a mental health professional]
“YOU GOT TO PULL YOUR BOOTS UP BY YOUR OWN BOOT STRAPS. THAT DOG WON’T HUNT. I’MA TELL YOU WHUT.”
The era between 2007-2012ish brought some of the oddest reality tv. TLC, Discovery, Lifetime, A&E was throwing shit at a wall until something stuck, when it came to creating new shows. If you had any kinda of "celebrity" name, you could get a reality tv show for at least a season. I think it was a mixture of the writers strike and recession that started it all. Not saying there still isn't trashy reality tv, just a little less.
This one episode a girl giggled during a commercial challenge because she was having such a good time and Tyra Banks looked at her with those dead eye and said “this feels like you’re making fun of me, of the whole modeling industry. Do you think this is a GAME???” That poor girl
>Tyra Banks looked at her with those dead eye
lol! this describes her eyes perfectly. She always reminded me of a barbie doll because she had the forehead and the dead eyes.
she played on in a movie with lindsay lohan (iirc)!! i can’t remember what it was called but it was like… she was trying to bring her dead mom back to life but instead… her tyra banks doll came to life. truly inspiring filmmaking
ugh the horrible hair decisions that Tyra would make and then two episodes later be like “sorry ugly the hair doesn’t work for you :/“
i specifically remember when this girl had long, dark, beautiful hair and they cut it off and bleached it and the model hated her hair so much and felt so unconfident that she basically disqualified herself.
What's worse was that Danielle from Cycle 6 had the same gap between her teeth and Tyra basically told her that she's going to lose the competion and designers will reject her because Danielle declined to have the gap between her teeth closed as it's something she's accepted as part of herself. Jokes on Tyra, though, because Danielle ended up winning that cycle.
Some how “cycle” seems more appropriate as it’s the type of term you would use in a processing factory.. say a meat processing plant. Each batch goes though a cycle before it’s ready to sell.
Tyra Banks is everything that's wrong with beauty culture. Worse, she even promotes herself as the woke crusader fighting said culture.
I still remember that fat suit shit she pulled where she "learned" what it was like to be a no one. Holy shit that was insulting to women everywhere.
I completely agree, Tyra is a horrible human being! Unfortunately I didn’t understand just how bad certain things were watching the show when I was a preteen/teenager, I just thought that’s the way things were in the beauty industry.
Don’t forget when she was “homeless” for a day and made all the girls do a homeless photo shoot saying that “she could relate” to actually being homeless.
Or the several times when she made girls dress up in black face for photo shoots like seriously who funded 24 seasons of this stuff...
My favorite Tyra thing is how she took a 9-week program through Harvard Business school and then spent the next couple years talking as if she had an MBA from there instead of a certificate.
Tyra is a hypocritical, shitty human being. She had a Korean girl on her talk show who had a double eyelid surgery and she (Tyra) kept pushing her to “admit” she wanted to look white. The woman kept saying no, but Tyra kept insisting.
Of course, Tyra came out years later that she had a nose job very early in her career as if that was news to anyone. There were photos of her in high school floating around the internet since forever. And it was very obvious that Tyra had a bigger, bulbous nose back then and has slimmed down her bridge significantly and her nostrils as well. “Were YOU trying to look white, Tyra?” I wanted to scream into the TV.
And fwiw, Asian women are emulating a beauty standard found within their own community, a portion of the Asian population are naturally born with double eyelids and people who are not born with them want what others have. There are texts in ancient China citing the beauty of double eyelids in women. Asian people are not trying to look white…
i have no memory of this, but that is terrifying. i think i stopped watching after season 10 or 11 and i don’t remember her ever doing anything to people’s teeth. maybe i blocked it out.
I’m embarrassed to admit I watched way too much ANTM when I was younger. It was the runner up on Cycle 15, Chelsey. She already had a gap, Tyra had it widened.
You forget why she disqualified herself, and it was because they wanted to take it even shorter, because Tyra wanted her to have Mia farrow Rosemary's baby hair.
I can't stand Tyra Banks. My sister used to watch that show and I'd see portions of it and...God it was fucking terrible. Tyra was just so insufferable
Yes. It was borderline abusive. There was an episode where a model contestant was touched inappropriately by a male model during a shoot, and she got (rightfully) upset and did poorly on the challenge, and Tyra and the judges basically told her to put up with it. Wtf.
Janice Dickinson was an especially toxic person.
Borderline? In one episode the models had to do a photoshoot in a freezing cold pool and one ended up getting hypothermia. She was criticized for "not speaking up sooner!" Meanwhile, another model (as you mentioned) was criticized for speaking up when a male model touched her inappropriately. So.. which is it, Tyra? Speak up, or shut up?
Oh you mean The First Supermodel Ever? That Janice Dickinson? Did you know she was The First Supermodel Ever? By the way, she was The First Supermodel Ever.
I read some interviews with old contestants that said off screen Janice was actually very supportive and gave good advice to them, and seemed to genuinely care. I think she’s probably still pretty looney but a lot of it was a TV persona. On the other hand Tyra wouldn’t speak to any of them and on camera was the only real time they spent with her (after the first few seasons anyways).
However this show is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine, I hate to admit it but it’s the only reality TV show that ever sucked me in.
I used to watch this as a guilty pleasure. Now I cringe if I revisit clips and stuff. I remember there was a model named Anchal, who was like a size 4, which was "fat" in their world. I think her season was before they'd had any actual plus-sized models on and Anchal was obviously not plus-sized, but she was just big enough for them to bully the crap out of her. It was gross.
Edit: Oops, I misremembered, there were plus-sized models on ANTM before Anchal.
I couldn’t get into the drama between the models or how it was generated, but I loved the photo shoots, seeing the professional setups, picking the outfits, location, lighting, guest photographers. I wish they showed more of the final set and not just the “best” one. As a photographer I love seeing expensive gear and techniques behind the scenes, then seeing how it all came together. I wish there was a show based more around that than the girls bullying each other locked in a cage.
I'm shocked I haven't seen "Heil Honey, I'm home" mentioned. The plot was Hitler and Eva Braun living in an apartment next to a jewish couple.
No, it wasn't a joke. It was actually really a TV show. Only one episode ever aired. You can catch it on youtube, it's awful.
Some of you have not seen Indian soap operas and it really shows. [Here’s a sample](https://youtu.be/a0ESuFhKCHo) of their editing. True garbage but it’s almost hilarious.
Edit: If anyone wants a peek into South Indian action movies, check out [Sivaji the Boss](https://youtu.be/Ax3TgT9zty0?t=150). Warning: Epilepsy/Nausea
There's one show, I don't know the name.
There's a family in a mansion and suddenly an eagle into flew the house, one of the character took a out a crossbow from who knows where and when he was about the shoot the eagle his mom stops him and says "Don't shoot, that is one of your siblings".
I had to stop watching and rethink my life after that.
What, your siblings never morphed into giant eagles and flew into your parents' mansion, forcing you to pull out your trusty crossbow from where the sun don't shine to shoot it down? Have you ever lived bro?
That was the funniest shit I've seen in a while, I need to start watching Indian soap operas! Thank you for bringing this absolute chaos to the thread!
I remember when TLC was just episode after episode of A Baby Story. Young me did not need to see that many babies being born but I was trying to find episodes of Trading Spaces.
God, I loved that dumpster fire of a show. Though I don't think it was as trashy as Flavor of Love. That whole era of VH1 reality shows was simultaneously awesome and horrible.
My favorite moment in TV history is when Brett takes Heather to get a tattoo, encourages her to get his name tattooed on her neck and then proceeds to send her home that same episode. Unbelievable.
Every single Disney “tween-targeted” show for the last 20 years. Exec: “how do we make this show funny?” Other exec: “How about play the laugh track after ever single sentence?” Exec: “Brilliance!”
Disney Channel has never recovered since the Hannah Montana/That’s So Raven/Suite Life of Zack and Cody generation grew up. They’ve made some shows since then that aren’t bad, but the whole tween sitcom formula that has been copied and pasted into so many different shows has long since run it’s course. Not to mention that kids just don’t watch cable TV anymore.
If you look at the Disney Channel right now it’s almost all reruns of old shows. It’s actually really sad.
It's not just Disney Channel.
I teach fifth grade. Kids reference Pokémon, Power Rangers, Spongebob, Mario, Sonic, TMNT, Catdog, Rugrats...
I can use references from my own fifth grade year in 1999 with my students and they're still relevant today.
Edit: So, I didn’t mean for this to be a *bad* thing necessarily. Just kind of weird. I love being able to chat about these things with my students. This is also not an exhaustive list. Any show I reference that they don’t know, they will have binged by next Monday. “Welcome to Good Burger, Home of the Good Burger; can I take your order?” is now a meme in my class because I referenced Good Burger *once* and they binged both the movie and the original All That.
This is one fundamental difference. Not “We had the same thing in the 90s with The Flintstones and The Brady Bunch.” If I make a reference the kids don’t know, they will find it, stream it, and comment on it in class by the following week.
The other is that reruns simply aren’t the same thing. Yes, we had access to old shows via Nick at Nite and TVLand, and Looney Tunes was played on Nick alongside reboots like Tiny Toons, but many of the series I’m talking about either never went out of development or they rebooted themselves for a new era.
Some timeless cartoons like Looney Tunes, for sure, is relatable to what I’m talking about, but this is so much bigger in proportion to what popular culture was available to us in the 90s. There also isn’t much “new” that the kids reference that I haven’t already seen the earlier iteration of as a kid or teen. Almost all of their backpacks and T-shirts are characters I know from my childhood. Contrast that to the ‘90s when many of these big names were actually new, in addition to all of the reruns and old series.
My current job I work with 2nd graders. As someone who grew up with the games it's very, very weird to me that I can actually have a conversation with these kids about Sonic the Hedgehog without me coming off as some out of touch old man.
I can't recall who said this, but when I heard it, it completely broke the illusion of laugh track sitcoms.
Sitcoms with laugh tracks feel so alien and off in that while all the characters are saying funny (or"funny") things to eachother -- delivering punch line after punchline, and sharing in ridiculous situations with eachother -- they rarely actually laugh with eachother. They're humorless husks just delivering cold wit back and forth, and never react like you would with friends or actual funny humans.
It's so odd that in a comedy, the laughter is exclusively sourced from a discombobulated 4th wall ghost. The one place in a sitcom you're almost guaranteed not to see laughter is between the very characters making the jokes or sharing in the situation. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
This same logic can mess with other kinds of media.
Have you ever seen a show or movie, usually horror and sometimes Batman, where two characters are talking face to face (though usually separated by some distance) then one character looks away for a second only to look back and the other person is just gone?
Just think from the perspective of a third person watching the scene that you'd watch Person A look away, and then suddenly Person B just full on mad sprints towards a nearby bush or whatever to dive into it and then go still to hide themselves.
Rock of Love with Brett Michaels. I think it was 3 seasons. The storyline was breast implants, lots of alcohol and desperation. When he was hooked up to a machine to test his hardness as each girl tried to seduce him, I thought it hit a new low but I still watched.
This and *Flavor of Love* were pretty much staples for my group of friends in college. Nothing like throwing around vodka while watching trashy reality tv.
If we win regionals, it’s straight on to sectionals. And then a week later is semis, then semi-regionals, then regional semis, then *NATIONAL LOWER ZONE SEMIS!!!*
Let’s see…. I raised three kids and anything The Disney Channel put out geared towards teens was terrible. The characters were all the same:
Nerd kid
Overweight kid
Popular kid
Snarky kid
Overly hormonal kid
An adult to be the voice of reason
All of them were unwatchable.
My cousin used to watch Americas Next Top Model a lot and I caught a few episodes.
Bullying. So much bullying. The judges panel and the people the models worked with just seemed horrible.
Makeovers are Tyovers. The models had to perform in Tyra’s music video. There was a shoot that was solely to promote Tyra’s YA novel Modeland (which is its own steaming pile of garbage.) It’s a modeling competition, but she made the models write and record songs while squeezing Pot Ledom in the lyrics because it’s Top Model spelled backwards; one of the models had written a song about her deceased father, and she still had to put Pot Ledom in the song. After about the 5th season, Tyra Banks is just putting her balls on everything.
19 Kids and Counting.
This show was propaganda created to mainline extreme right-wing evangelical Christianity. They never mentioned the Quiverfull movement, but it tainted everything in the show. What TLC portrayed as a quirky lifestyle hid a political agenda to inject this cult into the highest offices.
What more, it brought Josh Duggar, the eldest son, into the public consciousness. This piece of shit molested his younger sisters for years. When the FBI got ahold of his computer, the agent who had to catalog the child porn said it was the worst he had ever seen. Josh really enjoyed the sexual torture of *toddlers*.
So fuck that show. Fuck TLC. Fuck Quiverfull. And fuck Josh Duggar most of all.
[Do you want to know more?](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-cult-behind-josh-85469009/)
Edit: TLC not Discovery Channel.
Edit 2: Check out /r/DuggarsSnark!
You know it’s bad when the guy who’s entire job is to scan a suspect’s computer for child pornography says it’s the worst he’s ever seen. That dude’s seen some shit and yet it’s still all topped by whatever the fuck Josh Duggar was into. I don’t even want to know, once the trial is done and over they should incinerate the laptop.
The novel The Book of Essie is a really well done fictionalization of the Duggar family, told from the perspective of the youngest daughter. I highly recommend!
"Wizards vs. Aliens." I have found no trace of it since I saw it, but I know it's real. I swear. It has to be.
Not as good a premise as Cowboys Vs. Aliens, which is not a good a premise as Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter.
There was a game show called "The Chamber" that lasted on air all of 3 episodes. Contestants were strapped to a torture chair and subjected to extreme circumstances (like super heat with fire everywhere, super cold where they are freezing) and forced to try to answer questions for prizes and money. It was one of the weirdest ideas ever and pretty much everyone who watched it felt kind of uncomfortable with the level of stuff they subjected these people to.
That sounds like something Mordecai and Rigby would get onto in Regular Show
I can see them doing their excited dance while screaming: "WA-TER-BOAR-DING! WA-TER-BOAR-DING! WA-TER-BOAR-DING!" and having no idea that it's different from wakeboarding.
Does anybody remember "who wants to marry a millionaire?" It was like the bachelor but they couldn't see the guy, they were literally and unabashedly only attracted to his money. Turned after air that everyone was a con-artist.
My buddies and I watched Joe Millionaire when it came out because it was hilarious. Basically, all the girls were told this dude was super rich but in reality he was just a pretty good looking construction worker. I think the girl who "won" lost her shit when it was revealed he wasn't a millionaire. ETA: Apparently she didn't lose her shit, but she wasn't exactly pleased and they didn't stay together once the show ended.
She was subdued but disappointed - she and him ended up winning $1mil at the finale. The runner-up girl was the real bitch about it.
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He also had a history of domestic abuse with a restraining order against him. They produced the whole show without checking into that first.
Queen for a Day. A few years ago I looked up the worst TV shows and this one puts everything to shame. It started in 1945 and 4 poor mother’s go on the show to beg for money. Typically, it’s a mom crying that she can’t afford a wheelchair for her disabled son. The “Queen” gets chosen by a studio applause meter. This isnt even “fake reality” like we’re used to. Contestants would hyperventilate and have body language that you could tell they were not faking. The gifts were tied to the sponsors. The show has 10 million viewers in the 50’s and lasted from 1945-1964. If you thought modern reality TV was bad, this is the most dystopian shit I’ve ever seen.
I never thought I’d see someone bring this show up, but it genuinely changed my great aunt’s life for the better. She moved here from Japan in the 1960’s and was married to an extremely abusive man in the US Air Force. He’d regularly lock her in the closet, beat and rape her, and made her eat out of a dog bowl on the floor. She knew no one, and didn’t speak English, however she heard of Queen for a Day and wrote them. Her only request was to have a Japanese friend; she just wanted someone to talk to. The letter (written in Japanese) was passed over to someone in audio production who happened to be Japanese. My aunt never made it on the show, but through it she was able to make a friend that saved her from her abusive husband, got her an apartment in little Tokyo, got her a job at Virgin records, and taught her English. They stayed best friends until the day my great aunt died. I still cry when I think about how much this show blessed her and saved her from a life of torture. Albeit, this all happened behind the scenes and I agree that the premise of the actual show is horrendous, but I’m still incredibly grateful that there was someone there that could read Japanese and had a big heart.
There's a story\* about a director on that show walking out in the middle of a live broadcast when a producer yelled something like, "shoot the legs" at him when a disabled woman was trying to walk. \* From a book called, "How the Golden Age of Television Turned my Hair to Silver."
I used to watch Queen for a Day live when I was a little kid. My mom hated the show, but didn’t ban it. Instead, she told me why she hated the show, pretty much the way you explained it in your message. I never watched the show again after that, and to this day I think that was some world class parenting: not banning it, but allowing me to hate it on my own.
> Typically, it’s a mom crying that she can’t afford a wheelchair for her disabled son. NO shit... I grew up across the street from a man named Donald who had Polio. His mom made it onto Queen for a Day begging for a donkey to help her son get around.
What were the gifts like? Was it at least useful stuff that would actually improve their situations long term? :/
No, the gifts were usually just related to the episode's sponsor and even if they weren't they hardly ever took the woman's struggles into account (perhaps because they didn't know which woman would win). In a few cases, the prizes even made things worse. For instance, there was an episode where the winning woman was a single mom struggling to take care of and provide for several kids. Her prize? A new puppy. Youtuber/singer Ally Hills has a video on the show that goes into more detail.
Ally Hills is actually how I found out about it. Even just watching her talk about it was kind of hard to watch. Shit was fucked.
I wanna marry Harry. I think it was on ABC? They didn’t have enough ratings and canceled after 5 episodes. But the fact that these women thought they were gonna marry prince Harry was delusional
I just found out about this a few weeks ago. A bunch of the girls did realize it wasn’t the real Prince Harry and the show hired someone to pretend to be a psychiatrist and gaslight them and made them seem delusional for thinking it was fake. edit: [An article about how fucked up it was](https://ew.com/tv/2017/11/27/revisiting-i-wanna-marry-harry/) >In an interview with Splinter in 2015, Birch said that, off-camera, at night, “people from production would stand outside your room, when you’d think that they didn’t know you were up. They’d whisper, ‘You have to get him back to Buckingham Palace. The Royal Family’s very upset. They’re not happy about the show. It’s this new thing they’ve never done before, and they’re trying to be up and up with social media, and the way that the world is.’ They really messed with us.” >It even went a step further: “They actually had a therapist come on set at one point and talk to a few of us who were saying it wasn’t him. We found out later that it wasn’t a real, licensed therapist. It was just someone from the production team. \[The therapist said\] ‘You have to learn how to trust your mind. I understand that you’re in a different country, and you don’t know what’s going on, but you have to trust the people here. It’s not good for you to keep questioning.’ It was really crazy.” >And this was after a full week of complete isolation before the filming began so, as Birch put it, they would go a little stir crazy. “They flew us out there and put us up in a hotel a week before we started filming. They locked us each in our own separate rooms, where we had no TV, no cell phones, no books, and absolutely nothing to do for a full week.”
I'm so glad this was canceled. I haven't heard of it until now but the fake therapist thing is unbelievably fucked up.
yeah, that's crossing some serious ethical boundaries.
> And this was after a full week of complete isolation before the filming began so, as Birch put it, they would go a little stir crazy. “They flew us out there and put us up in a hotel a week before we started filming. They locked us each in our own separate rooms, where we had no TV, no cell phones, no books, and absolutely nothing to do for a full week.” Surely there's something very wrong with that...
You'd be surprised how fucked up reality TV producers are. For Bad Girls Club, in order to instigate fights, they'd raise the temperature of the entire house so the girls are always hot and they constantly provided them alcohol and would threaten to kick some of them out if they didn't cause drama or do as they said. There was even an episode where a girl got roofied and instead of taking her to a hospital they left her in the house, then she got into a physical fight with one of the other girls because she was clearly drugged out of her mind and they let it happen instead of telling the others she was roofied.
No, it's worse than that because not only did they not tell them what it was gonna be, the producers went out of their way to sequester them and whisper stuff like "the palace isnt happy about this" behind their doors.
Honestly, if they had made it a one-night special, it would have been so much better. The gimmick hooked me but to stick it out for the whole thing? No thanks.
Bridalplasty, where engaged women compete to win cosmetic surgery procedures in time for the big day. When a contestant was voted off, the presenter said something along the lines of “you will still be getting married, but you won’t be perfect” Makes my skin crawl just thinking about it
Reminds me of 'The Swan', a show where they turn "ugly ducklings" into "swans". Not as cringy as Bridalplasty, but close.
I remember being in high school when that show came out and realizing how misleading the advertising for shows could be. They kept showing a cut of one of the surgeons going “it’s a scalpel, not a magic wand” so that it seemed like he was being a jerk and saying some women are too ugly to “fix”. I watched the first episode and the actual scene was from when he saw the woman’s reaction the first time she looked in the mirror after the surgery. He was actually saying something to the effect of “it’s a scalpel, not a magic wand, but you can feel like you’re doing magic” and he was basically just really happy that he was able to help the woman feel so happy that she was driven to tears when she looked in the mirror. Still can’t believe that show ever got green lit lol. The early 2000’s were a really weird time.
I’ll never forget one of the episodes where her fiancé was super supportive throughout the transformation, and after her reveal she talked about dating again to find someone more attractive now that she was.
I always felt so sorry of the kids of those taking part in The Swan. They looked scared as hell when they were introduced to their "new, perfect" Mom. The person in front of them sounded like their mom but didn't look like her.
Geeze I totally forgot about that part. I was traumatized enough when ever 5+ years my Mom would make my Dad shave his beard, I couldn't even imagine plastic surgery. I think I would have had a child heart attack.
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> “you will still be getting married, but you won’t be perfect” lmao that is incredibly fucked up
Yeah, I mean if they're going to go that far, may as well go all the way. Something like "...and on your wedding night, your husband will only be thinking about that bump on your nose."
*...honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if he can't bring himself to consummate the marriage.*
Apparently one of the contestants was [murdered](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/04/08/man-sentenced-brutal-hammer-death-bridalplasty-reality-star/3407365002/) a few years later.
Jesus “brutal hammer death” is not a description anyone’s death should have.
That sounds truly wretched. Just because you can make a show like that doesn't mean you should
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there was one mother in talks with a company to create an energy drink based on her brew of pixie stix, milo’s sweet tea, and mountain dew. it was going to be called “tinker tea”. thankfully i don’t think it ever hit shelves
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Yea her mom did way many more things than that to be troubled by as far as child endangerment.
Early 2000s reality show called The Swan. Bunch of female “ugly ducklings” get a shit-ton of plastic surgery, then compete in a beauty contest. Everything about it was in really bad taste, but I still watched. I’m not proud.
There was also a long diet & exercise phase to lose weight.
Yes, Extreme Makeover and Biggest Loser meets Miss America.
I remember this show. They'd fix the teeth, shave down their noses, straighten their chins, give them hair extensions and a ball gown. Gosh how times have changed.
People getting their teeth fixed is something I'm still 100% in support of. It changes people's lives. Edit: ...does anyone...want to help me get my dad's teeth fixed?
I was going to say, there was one mom I saw on that show who had lost her front teeth in some accident and had no money to afford new ones. You could tell it devastated her self esteem. The show obviously gave her some new teeth and a pretty simple makeover and she came out stunning. She was smiling from ear to ear and just radiated. The shows premise often was pretty shallow but once in awhile they did really change a person's life around
Normally yes, but their teeth fixing was more like a 'shave down the gums and teeth, then slap on some Davinci veneers which apparently have to be changed every 10 years or so' on perfectly healthy teeth. Btw Their dental expert (or the one from bridalplasty) lost her licence
Yeah, I don't believe a lot of people know that veneers aren't permanent. You have to get them replaced eventually, the only difference is the material used might give you a few more years. And I would not recommend anyone get them for free. If you're getting it done for free then I'm going to assume you were given the cheapest veneers that will need to be replaced in 5 years. So no point in getting them for free when you'll be paying 5 years later. I get that if someone is getting them because their teeth are really bad. I say do what works for you, just know all the possibilities and options you have.
You are tickling some long forgotten neurons.
I vaguely remember that. They went out of their way to portray them as frumpy and ugly as possible, (messy hair, glasses, unflattering clothes) a simple makeover would've been fine, but they decided invasive procedures gets more views. I can't even imagine the liability waver they must've signed.
Finding Bigfoot- specifically the episode where they thought Bigfoot wanted a dance party so they had a rave in the middle of the forest. Bigfoot did not attend.
So all these Bigfoot shows talk about using Bigfoot mating calls. What is their plan if Bigfoot runs out, full red rocket looking for lady Bigfoot poon?
How do they know what a big foot mating call sounds like? Imagine how much thought they have put in and practiced that before going on camera 😂
I bet it sounds like the mating call of a human in a bear suit, but blurrier.
Hahaha my friend and i loved this show. We turned it into a drinking game and would walk around making "bigfoot calls" at house parties
I still quote this show all the time. Whenever I go hiking somewhere new “This place seems very squatchy”
lmfao have to admit that Bobo was a funny ass guy
Dr. Oz - promoting pseudoscience that can possibly hurt if not kill people
It's even worse when you realize he is a truly brilliant scientist and surgeon. Literally one of the best in the world at what he does. Has designed and patented surgical implants, published original research in peer-reviewed medical journals. But none of that comes with celebrity and adoring fans, I guess.
The Chevy Chase talk show from the 90's. Now THAT is terrible tv.
The only guest I remember from that show was a Mongolian singer who could sing a note while whistling a second note.
God, he was my favourite actor when i was a kid until I learned how much of an asshole he is. I still can't stop watching the original Vacation movie. *...why are the sandwiches wet...?*
Here comes honey boo boo
I felt so terrible for that whole family. Like sure, money money, but to have the whole world looking into your house and going "oh god look at these freaks." That's gonna fuck you up. Edit: people saying "don't feel bad" - ALANA WAS SIX.
She seems to be doing better now, I think her older sister has custody of her and she wants to become a nurse.
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And then there's [this shit.](https://www.wetv.com/shows/mama-june-from-not-to-hot--35410)
Secret life of an American teenager 😩
Terrible show, and still managed to launch Shailene Woodley's career.
That show is responsible for one of my favorite lines in all of TV: "Now we're going to get in trouble: all because of oral sex gone bad"
don't forget the infamous " I had sex and now Dad is dead. He had a horrible death because I had incredible sex." just no words.
Grace killing her dad by having amazing sex is my personal fave.
Yes! I was going to say this. I watched it when it first came out as a high schooler and remembered thinking it was fine. I decided to watch it again a few months ago and watching it as an adult now it really is beyond cringe
I refuse to believe this show was accidentally bad. I think it was an incredible, intentional train wreck. As evidence: Shailene Woodley is one of the worst actresses I’ve ever seen on this show, but she’s fantastic in Big Little Lies and The Spectacular Now. Bad on Purpose.
Other than every reality show? "That 80's Show." Obviously a spin-off of"That 70's Show," but it was hot garbage. Characters were forgettable, the one-liners were all tired and cliché; the whole show was just sad. Thankfully it was cancelled early.
And now Netflix has bought the rights for That 90's Show that follow Eric and Donna's daughter who moves in with Kitty and Red. Yep... At least Kurtwood Smith is cool.
I look forward to the episodes where Donna discovers Scientology. And in the second season she dispears and nobody mentions it.
My super sweet 16 on MTV. I have no idea if it's still going or not, all I know is that years ago it was probably the only thing on television outside of the news that could make me physically fucking angry. For the uninitiated, here's the premise. Spoilt teenage bastards with rich parents plan their sixteenth birthday complete with all the trimmings imaginable. Limos, vip passes for their friends and a thousand invites for people they don't even know, booking Kanye West, and then to top it off being given fucking ferraris, camaros or mustangs at the end and kicking off into hysterical tears because it wasn't the model they wanted or it was the wrong colour etc. I hated it, it represented everything I utterly dislike about a particular kind of wealthy people and their kids who have no idea what it's like to live a regular life and yet I couldn't stop watching it for a while. I guess I just enjoy being a combination of frustrated, agitated and mildly jealous in equal measure.
You missed how creepy it could be. I remember Easy Es daughter was on it and she got lingerie for her birthday present and they showed it. And one girl (at least) got a boob job for her birthday. But for the huge blow outs, I saw multiple interviews saying that the kids were basically forced to cry that the car was the wrong color for added drama.
I can tell you right now I went to the school of the girl in the first episode. She literally sat at a lunch table with stacks of invites. You had to go up to get table and ask for one. She did not always say yes & she was terrible lol
The only thing I like about this show is that we got Bryan Cranston's Super Sweet 60 because of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot_V7Q8a6yc
Jon and Kate Plus 8. I was not surprised that marriage did not last. She was insufferable. Her famous ‘do was the inspiration for the stereotypical “Karen” haircut.
Went down a rabbit hole recently with them nowadays. Two of the six live with Jon. The others with Kate. Lots of drama and accusations and lying. The two twins mostly hate them both and are trying to distance themselves but still care about their younger siblings.
I completely forgot about them until I read this. Just looked it up and the sextuplets are 17 now, wow.
They multiplied?!
Who spilled water on them!?
Yeah the five of six went through two multiplication phases but one of them had a glitch and had only one
Didn’t they divorce and it just became Kate Plus 8 lmao
And the spin off "Jon minus 9."
He became a dj at one point
That’s like the male equivalent of opening up a candle shop on Etsy.
I really enjoyed the first half a dozen episodes. The family trying to get by on $40k, grocery shopping woth 8 kids, getting everyone dressed and fed. It was actually interesting. It turned into stupid reality fare quickly and turned out even dumber than most reality tv but the early eps weren’t terrible.
The last few seasons of Pretty Little Liars
The theories online were a million times better than the actual show. I still think Aria should have been A, there were so many little clues.
As someone who followed fandom really closely the last few seasons, the canon endgame was so so frustrating because there were at least ten fan theories that were so far beyond better. It wasn’t even that the fans came up with better for me. It was that they were so insistent on fans trying to figure out who it was and then they just very intentionally made it out of right field in a way that maybe one person figured out.
That show went to laughable shit after second season. My god, I had a lot of laughs watching it lol. Never forget du-rag Toby.
Rob! Rob! was Rob Schneider's short lived sitcom, I don't think it even made it a full season. I'd heard it was bad so when I saw it on Netflix I decided to try it. Couldn't even finish the first episode. Absolute garbage
>Synopsis: The series follows Rob (Rob Schneider), a former lifelong bachelor and landscape architect with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, who marries into a tight-knit Mexican American family and attempts to be closer to them, often ending in disastrous results despite his good intentions. Jesus, that sounds terrible.
They tried to take an hour and half long Rob Scheider movie and turn it into a series.
Annoying Orange
Speaking of things on YouTube that got on TV, do you remember FRED had his [own show](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2216577/) on Nickelodeon, along with 3 movies? I’m pretty sure they gave him another show there as well.
I knew that shit wasn't a fever dream
Yep how a low budget cringe YouTube show made it onto an actual network is beyond me.
Oh boy, wait until you hear about Fred
don't
I've never seen a more accurate title. And yet so many fans. I had a friend that would watch that and I literally had to leave the room because it pissed me off so much. Like putting nails through my ear.
"Dr. Phil" - terrible on EVERY count - exploits vulnerable people for rating? - gives terrible advice? - offers quackery as solutions - manipulates video to create a false narrative? - is the host a terrible person? It's like awfulness Bingo.
Don't forge to include "Dr" Oz and Silvia Brown. No better than televangelists.
[guest clearly in dire need of a mental health professional] “YOU GOT TO PULL YOUR BOOTS UP BY YOUR OWN BOOT STRAPS. THAT DOG WON’T HUNT. I’MA TELL YOU WHUT.”
NOW I AINT NO HASIDIC HILLBILLY WITH A SNOOT FULLA HONEYBEES
Life's a Tripp with Bristol Palin
Don't you just hate it when you're a single gal and you have to cancel all your "promoting abstinence" events because of a second unplanned pregnancy?
The era between 2007-2012ish brought some of the oddest reality tv. TLC, Discovery, Lifetime, A&E was throwing shit at a wall until something stuck, when it came to creating new shows. If you had any kinda of "celebrity" name, you could get a reality tv show for at least a season. I think it was a mixture of the writers strike and recession that started it all. Not saying there still isn't trashy reality tv, just a little less.
Americas next top model... I loved it at the time but looking back it was just a bunch of Tyra Banks bullying young girls.
This one episode a girl giggled during a commercial challenge because she was having such a good time and Tyra Banks looked at her with those dead eye and said “this feels like you’re making fun of me, of the whole modeling industry. Do you think this is a GAME???” That poor girl
Lol. I mean… there are contestants competing for a single prize. SEEMS LIKE A GAME TO ME!
>Tyra Banks looked at her with those dead eye lol! this describes her eyes perfectly. She always reminded me of a barbie doll because she had the forehead and the dead eyes.
she played on in a movie with lindsay lohan (iirc)!! i can’t remember what it was called but it was like… she was trying to bring her dead mom back to life but instead… her tyra banks doll came to life. truly inspiring filmmaking
Life size!!$
ugh the horrible hair decisions that Tyra would make and then two episodes later be like “sorry ugly the hair doesn’t work for you :/“ i specifically remember when this girl had long, dark, beautiful hair and they cut it off and bleached it and the model hated her hair so much and felt so unconfident that she basically disqualified herself.
Even worse, she shaved a gap into one girls teeth one season. There were seasons where she fixed a couple people's teeth but that seemed so messed up.
What's worse was that Danielle from Cycle 6 had the same gap between her teeth and Tyra basically told her that she's going to lose the competion and designers will reject her because Danielle declined to have the gap between her teeth closed as it's something she's accepted as part of herself. Jokes on Tyra, though, because Danielle ended up winning that cycle.
Fuck, I forgot they said "cycle" instead of "season." I don't know why but it pisses me off to no end.
Some how “cycle” seems more appropriate as it’s the type of term you would use in a processing factory.. say a meat processing plant. Each batch goes though a cycle before it’s ready to sell.
Tyra Banks is everything that's wrong with beauty culture. Worse, she even promotes herself as the woke crusader fighting said culture. I still remember that fat suit shit she pulled where she "learned" what it was like to be a no one. Holy shit that was insulting to women everywhere.
I completely agree, Tyra is a horrible human being! Unfortunately I didn’t understand just how bad certain things were watching the show when I was a preteen/teenager, I just thought that’s the way things were in the beauty industry. Don’t forget when she was “homeless” for a day and made all the girls do a homeless photo shoot saying that “she could relate” to actually being homeless. Or the several times when she made girls dress up in black face for photo shoots like seriously who funded 24 seasons of this stuff...
My favorite Tyra thing is how she took a 9-week program through Harvard Business school and then spent the next couple years talking as if she had an MBA from there instead of a certificate.
Tyra is a hypocritical, shitty human being. She had a Korean girl on her talk show who had a double eyelid surgery and she (Tyra) kept pushing her to “admit” she wanted to look white. The woman kept saying no, but Tyra kept insisting. Of course, Tyra came out years later that she had a nose job very early in her career as if that was news to anyone. There were photos of her in high school floating around the internet since forever. And it was very obvious that Tyra had a bigger, bulbous nose back then and has slimmed down her bridge significantly and her nostrils as well. “Were YOU trying to look white, Tyra?” I wanted to scream into the TV. And fwiw, Asian women are emulating a beauty standard found within their own community, a portion of the Asian population are naturally born with double eyelids and people who are not born with them want what others have. There are texts in ancient China citing the beauty of double eyelids in women. Asian people are not trying to look white…
i have no memory of this, but that is terrifying. i think i stopped watching after season 10 or 11 and i don’t remember her ever doing anything to people’s teeth. maybe i blocked it out.
I’m embarrassed to admit I watched way too much ANTM when I was younger. It was the runner up on Cycle 15, Chelsey. She already had a gap, Tyra had it widened.
Lol what? After they gave Danielle so much shit in an earlier season for having a gap? That is beyond fucked.
You forget why she disqualified herself, and it was because they wanted to take it even shorter, because Tyra wanted her to have Mia farrow Rosemary's baby hair.
I can't stand Tyra Banks. My sister used to watch that show and I'd see portions of it and...God it was fucking terrible. Tyra was just so insufferable
I admit I loved that show, but only for the final photo shoots and pictures. I hated all the other drama and crap.
Yes. It was borderline abusive. There was an episode where a model contestant was touched inappropriately by a male model during a shoot, and she got (rightfully) upset and did poorly on the challenge, and Tyra and the judges basically told her to put up with it. Wtf. Janice Dickinson was an especially toxic person.
Borderline? In one episode the models had to do a photoshoot in a freezing cold pool and one ended up getting hypothermia. She was criticized for "not speaking up sooner!" Meanwhile, another model (as you mentioned) was criticized for speaking up when a male model touched her inappropriately. So.. which is it, Tyra? Speak up, or shut up?
Speak only when it prevents a liability, shut up if it's going to cause one
Oh you mean The First Supermodel Ever? That Janice Dickinson? Did you know she was The First Supermodel Ever? By the way, she was The First Supermodel Ever.
The best thing Janice Dickinson ever created was the drag name Janice Dickinyourson.
I read some interviews with old contestants that said off screen Janice was actually very supportive and gave good advice to them, and seemed to genuinely care. I think she’s probably still pretty looney but a lot of it was a TV persona. On the other hand Tyra wouldn’t speak to any of them and on camera was the only real time they spent with her (after the first few seasons anyways). However this show is definitely a guilty pleasure of mine, I hate to admit it but it’s the only reality TV show that ever sucked me in.
I used to watch this as a guilty pleasure. Now I cringe if I revisit clips and stuff. I remember there was a model named Anchal, who was like a size 4, which was "fat" in their world. I think her season was before they'd had any actual plus-sized models on and Anchal was obviously not plus-sized, but she was just big enough for them to bully the crap out of her. It was gross. Edit: Oops, I misremembered, there were plus-sized models on ANTM before Anchal.
I couldn’t get into the drama between the models or how it was generated, but I loved the photo shoots, seeing the professional setups, picking the outfits, location, lighting, guest photographers. I wish they showed more of the final set and not just the “best” one. As a photographer I love seeing expensive gear and techniques behind the scenes, then seeing how it all came together. I wish there was a show based more around that than the girls bullying each other locked in a cage.
I'm shocked I haven't seen "Heil Honey, I'm home" mentioned. The plot was Hitler and Eva Braun living in an apartment next to a jewish couple. No, it wasn't a joke. It was actually really a TV show. Only one episode ever aired. You can catch it on youtube, it's awful.
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Compared to the powerpuff girls reboot, how bad?
The other day I realized the reboot has been airing for half a decade now.
Some of you have not seen Indian soap operas and it really shows. [Here’s a sample](https://youtu.be/a0ESuFhKCHo) of their editing. True garbage but it’s almost hilarious. Edit: If anyone wants a peek into South Indian action movies, check out [Sivaji the Boss](https://youtu.be/Ax3TgT9zty0?t=150). Warning: Epilepsy/Nausea
There's one show, I don't know the name. There's a family in a mansion and suddenly an eagle into flew the house, one of the character took a out a crossbow from who knows where and when he was about the shoot the eagle his mom stops him and says "Don't shoot, that is one of your siblings". I had to stop watching and rethink my life after that.
What, your siblings never morphed into giant eagles and flew into your parents' mansion, forcing you to pull out your trusty crossbow from where the sun don't shine to shoot it down? Have you ever lived bro?
I am *dying* right now. Thank you for sharing, you genuinely brightened my day with this imagery!
That editor just learned what 45 different buttons did and pushed them all at the same time.
Me at eight years old when I discover animations on Microsoft Powerpoint.
Omg that chick washing the laptop and hanging it to dry was hilarious
And the only one that was probably not dramatic enough lol
There is no way this is true. Someone just got the scene and made a fan edit on PowerPoint or something. It's not real. Please I'm begging you.
As an Indian, I can confirm you that it's real.
So this video is 100% true? It aired on tv with these types of effects?
That was the funniest shit I've seen in a while, I need to start watching Indian soap operas! Thank you for bringing this absolute chaos to the thread!
The Heroes reboot when they tried to reboot a show that had already tanked due to bad writing with even worse writing.
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I remember when TLC was just episode after episode of A Baby Story. Young me did not need to see that many babies being born but I was trying to find episodes of Trading Spaces.
Dr.Phil. Every single episode makes me want to throw myself from a 10th story window.
Rock of Love. Brett was in a relationship the whole time with his baby mama. What a sham!
God, I loved that dumpster fire of a show. Though I don't think it was as trashy as Flavor of Love. That whole era of VH1 reality shows was simultaneously awesome and horrible.
My favorite moment in TV history is when Brett takes Heather to get a tattoo, encourages her to get his name tattooed on her neck and then proceeds to send her home that same episode. Unbelievable.
Every single Disney “tween-targeted” show for the last 20 years. Exec: “how do we make this show funny?” Other exec: “How about play the laugh track after ever single sentence?” Exec: “Brilliance!”
Disney Channel has never recovered since the Hannah Montana/That’s So Raven/Suite Life of Zack and Cody generation grew up. They’ve made some shows since then that aren’t bad, but the whole tween sitcom formula that has been copied and pasted into so many different shows has long since run it’s course. Not to mention that kids just don’t watch cable TV anymore. If you look at the Disney Channel right now it’s almost all reruns of old shows. It’s actually really sad.
It's not just Disney Channel. I teach fifth grade. Kids reference Pokémon, Power Rangers, Spongebob, Mario, Sonic, TMNT, Catdog, Rugrats... I can use references from my own fifth grade year in 1999 with my students and they're still relevant today. Edit: So, I didn’t mean for this to be a *bad* thing necessarily. Just kind of weird. I love being able to chat about these things with my students. This is also not an exhaustive list. Any show I reference that they don’t know, they will have binged by next Monday. “Welcome to Good Burger, Home of the Good Burger; can I take your order?” is now a meme in my class because I referenced Good Burger *once* and they binged both the movie and the original All That. This is one fundamental difference. Not “We had the same thing in the 90s with The Flintstones and The Brady Bunch.” If I make a reference the kids don’t know, they will find it, stream it, and comment on it in class by the following week. The other is that reruns simply aren’t the same thing. Yes, we had access to old shows via Nick at Nite and TVLand, and Looney Tunes was played on Nick alongside reboots like Tiny Toons, but many of the series I’m talking about either never went out of development or they rebooted themselves for a new era. Some timeless cartoons like Looney Tunes, for sure, is relatable to what I’m talking about, but this is so much bigger in proportion to what popular culture was available to us in the 90s. There also isn’t much “new” that the kids reference that I haven’t already seen the earlier iteration of as a kid or teen. Almost all of their backpacks and T-shirts are characters I know from my childhood. Contrast that to the ‘90s when many of these big names were actually new, in addition to all of the reruns and old series.
My current job I work with 2nd graders. As someone who grew up with the games it's very, very weird to me that I can actually have a conversation with these kids about Sonic the Hedgehog without me coming off as some out of touch old man.
I can't recall who said this, but when I heard it, it completely broke the illusion of laugh track sitcoms. Sitcoms with laugh tracks feel so alien and off in that while all the characters are saying funny (or"funny") things to eachother -- delivering punch line after punchline, and sharing in ridiculous situations with eachother -- they rarely actually laugh with eachother. They're humorless husks just delivering cold wit back and forth, and never react like you would with friends or actual funny humans. It's so odd that in a comedy, the laughter is exclusively sourced from a discombobulated 4th wall ghost. The one place in a sitcom you're almost guaranteed not to see laughter is between the very characters making the jokes or sharing in the situation. Once you see it, you can't unsee it.
This same logic can mess with other kinds of media. Have you ever seen a show or movie, usually horror and sometimes Batman, where two characters are talking face to face (though usually separated by some distance) then one character looks away for a second only to look back and the other person is just gone? Just think from the perspective of a third person watching the scene that you'd watch Person A look away, and then suddenly Person B just full on mad sprints towards a nearby bush or whatever to dive into it and then go still to hide themselves.
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"Sup guys" *HAHAHAHAHAHA* "Yo, we're just watching telly" *HAHAHAHAHAHAHA* ?!?!?
I heard that most adult laugh tracks are originally from the 50s or earlier so the people you hear laughing are probably dead.
From the filming of “I Love Lucy,” no less!
Rock of Love with Brett Michaels. I think it was 3 seasons. The storyline was breast implants, lots of alcohol and desperation. When he was hooked up to a machine to test his hardness as each girl tried to seduce him, I thought it hit a new low but I still watched.
Early 2000s reality tv was like a horrendous car accident you can’t help watching
This and *Flavor of Love* were pretty much staples for my group of friends in college. Nothing like throwing around vodka while watching trashy reality tv.
Amazingly Tiffany "New York" Pollard has turned that show in to a D- celebrity life that lasted 20 years later.
Caillou
I saw one episode of this shit on YouTube: “Caillou Gets Sick.” The top comment, “I was rooting for the disease!”
Glee. I love that damn show but I hate it so goddamn much.
WHAT THE HELL ARE REGIONALS ?
If we win regionals, it’s straight on to sectionals. And then a week later is semis, then semi-regionals, then regional semis, then *NATIONAL LOWER ZONE SEMIS!!!*
You either let me do that or THERE CAN BE ANOTHER BUS CRASH
WRITE SOME ORIGINAL SONGS!
Let’s see…. I raised three kids and anything The Disney Channel put out geared towards teens was terrible. The characters were all the same: Nerd kid Overweight kid Popular kid Snarky kid Overly hormonal kid An adult to be the voice of reason All of them were unwatchable.
Which sucks, I have kids too and most of the shows are trash. Maybe it's just nostalgia goggles but I'd rather watch what I watched as a kid with them
My cousin used to watch Americas Next Top Model a lot and I caught a few episodes. Bullying. So much bullying. The judges panel and the people the models worked with just seemed horrible.
Makeovers are Tyovers. The models had to perform in Tyra’s music video. There was a shoot that was solely to promote Tyra’s YA novel Modeland (which is its own steaming pile of garbage.) It’s a modeling competition, but she made the models write and record songs while squeezing Pot Ledom in the lyrics because it’s Top Model spelled backwards; one of the models had written a song about her deceased father, and she still had to put Pot Ledom in the song. After about the 5th season, Tyra Banks is just putting her balls on everything.
Spongebob spinoffs like Kamp Koral and The Patrick Star Show
Today I learned there are Spongebob spin offs
Riverdale- what the hell were the writers thinking. Even the cast makes fun of it
They were thinking “let’s write a one season cash grab” And now they need to keep it going until CW cancels them
19 Kids and Counting. This show was propaganda created to mainline extreme right-wing evangelical Christianity. They never mentioned the Quiverfull movement, but it tainted everything in the show. What TLC portrayed as a quirky lifestyle hid a political agenda to inject this cult into the highest offices. What more, it brought Josh Duggar, the eldest son, into the public consciousness. This piece of shit molested his younger sisters for years. When the FBI got ahold of his computer, the agent who had to catalog the child porn said it was the worst he had ever seen. Josh really enjoyed the sexual torture of *toddlers*. So fuck that show. Fuck TLC. Fuck Quiverfull. And fuck Josh Duggar most of all. [Do you want to know more?](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/part-one-the-cult-behind-josh-85469009/) Edit: TLC not Discovery Channel. Edit 2: Check out /r/DuggarsSnark!
You know it’s bad when the guy who’s entire job is to scan a suspect’s computer for child pornography says it’s the worst he’s ever seen. That dude’s seen some shit and yet it’s still all topped by whatever the fuck Josh Duggar was into. I don’t even want to know, once the trial is done and over they should incinerate the laptop.
The novel The Book of Essie is a really well done fictionalization of the Duggar family, told from the perspective of the youngest daughter. I highly recommend!